158 DOWN SOUTH JUKIN'!
The gang discusses loving your neighbor and other universal truths. Also: Moonfall, Nightmare Alley, and The Scary of Sixty First.
158 DOWN SOUTH JUKIN'!
The gang discusses loving your neighbor and other universal truths. Also: Moonfall, Nightmare Alley, and The Scary of Sixty First.
I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition such sigh to show you strange aeons. Welcome to strange aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That's finesse over there. Hello. I'm Kelly. I was talking to Andrew buyers, Who is he and his wife do the lovely Friday Frightmare podcast. And we were having a nice little chat. And I said something to him that, as usual, I thought was incredibly profound. And I realized they had to say it here as well. Okay, okay. Let's see. Where's the mute button? Vanessa, when was the last time you downloaded a Neil Young song? Let's just make it in the last year. I've no, never. And Eric, when was the last time that you listened to an episode of The Joe Rogan podcast? Just in the last year? I have not. Well, I've listened to bits and pieces on YouTube and stuff, but not a whole episode. No. So they've been in the news lately. And there's been a lot of stuff going on about them. And I had posted a meme that I thought was funny, I guess. And it got taken way out of context. I thought it here. Had a very close friend of ours, Eric reached out to me privately told me that my meme was stupid and dangerous. And I was like, Wait a second. This doesn't matter. Right? It really doesn't matter. There is a lot of people who would like you to think that this matters. Because they want you arguing with each other. But don't argue with your friends and family over stuff. That doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny, because I remember getting really, really upset about this situation. And then I was like, Wait, I don't even know who you're been forced into caring about something that doesn't matter. Yeah. thing that I said, Andrew was, I am incredibly blessed to have the two of you not just as CO hosts, but as friends. Because I don't think that our politics necessarily line up. I mean, right. I'm hardcore, conservative, Christian, you trying to invite us to church, but I'm not going to talk about stuff, sometimes on the air, mostly off the air. And it's a discussion. Sometimes our point of views do not line up. And we have that discussion. Then we hug each other and we say we'll see you next weekend. Yeah, that's fine. I really appreciate that about you guys. So I just wanted to make that a public record. I love you guys. Oh, love you right back. Yeah. All right. Let's get naked. Yeah. Wait a minute. Not again. Yeah, I mean, the that's the world we live in now, though. It's, it's a weird world we're living in right now. It really is. And I feel like every time I get really mad, I've been really trying to challenge myself to spend a hot minute researching and figuring out if I'm actually bad, and 99 times out of 100. I'm not. And it's more complicated than I thought. I like to you try to figure out if you're really mad or not. Yeah, it's important. It should be what's done as opposed to, I mean, I'm sure we have all typed out Facebook, Twitter, or whatever that I did. And I'm not going to actually send this should delete done. Yeah, but we did get some speaking of reaction. On what on? Well, let me say, oh, but if you're going out to movies on a regular basis and Omicron filled America, you probably deserve to catch it. That is oh, here's the part that's funny about that. And shows he's maybe not listening as close as he thinks. How many times you've been in the theater Kelly. A lot in the last year or so. Yeah. And if you've been in theater a lot and yeah, I've been in half a dozen or more times. Of the three of us who's the one that actually got the guy has been to the theater one time and you didn't get it there. He got it someplace else. Really trembling. If you listen, you got to listen closer, but you know what's actually going on? Yeah, and like also I pick screenings that are purposely empty and at weird times and at weird theaters. I wear a mask the whole like, it's not like that. They a lot of them have been fitted with really good, you know, safety upgrades. Also, you guys are not you guys are not breaking the go into underground theaters. Oh, it's theater with rules. And you guys follow the rules? Yeah, yeah. So oh, well, I'm sorry to hear that. Somebody felt that way. Yes. And somebody was angry with me for cutting the thing. And their quote, two responses was to quote, Game of Thrones. Carrying Lannister may not be the best person to, quote, look like Peter Dinklage by hell. Yeah. That doesn't mean, there's got to be one of the best TV characters ever. I'm not using him as an argument in public censorship thinking. Also, I need to make it clear that whenever I'm angry at you guys, it is a theatrical anger. I have figured this out when you were really nice to me, and then you yell at me. I have worked that out. Sometimes I will say something to make a point. But, you know, a peek behind the curtain before we recorded that episode where I talked about that. I asked Eric and you I said, Do you guys mind if I give you a little gentle ribbing about? Yeah, yeah, cutting my stuff out. And you build like, okay, yeah. So what we both know, and this is an old HP Lovecraft guy's a really good guy. So I had, you know, I get to give him some ribbon to write. I'm just surprised anybody listens to us or YouTube? My My mom did for a long time. I guess that's where my mom is still. Yeah. Although she likes the one where she can read our transcript, but has complained to me several times about when this script doesn't matter what we say. It's electronically. It doesn't tell you when they're listening to it typing it up. No, no, no. Right. Okay, so I got to see some cool stuff. And maybe you guys have seen some of it, or none of it or all of it. But I will start out with nightmare alley. Oh my god. Yeah. Okay. Gone. Oh, that, that surprises me. All over this. I got interested in enough. I'm gone. Oh, there's a criterion version of the original site ordered that. I've got that I've got the new one. Wow, I went to watch them both. Okay. And in, you've seen it? And I said, Yeah, recently. I'll say this. I'll start off this way. I love the original. And I would suggest you do not watch it before you watch the new one. Because I don't think the new one is as good as the original. But I have not seen the original. But I've seen content that while I was watching nightmare alley, I was like, Oh, it's this movie. And was like, okay, that's fine. You didn't You didn't love it. I am really conflicted. I was really mad at the end of the film and was really angry through all going I'm really bad about this, this, this and this. But now, as is my way apparently, I've sat on it and I'm trying to process whether or not that's a fair judgement. It's a pretty bleak movie. It's that was the biggest problem is it's bleak. And right now I can't really handle weak, so good. So that that's on me. That's definitely on me. You will have to agree that it is gorgeous. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. The the like the places that they're filming in set design is incredible. The actors are all really killing it. Yeah, I do feel like it's two different movies that they shoved together that feel like part of that could have been fixed by chop and about 40 minutes out of it. Yeah, I know. It's 40 minutes. I don't want also per use. I mean, none of this is giving anything away, but Yamo it loves to do some gore. I was like, oh, that's what that looks like when that thing happens. I've always wondered. And now I know. Yeah, well, I will say that I really really enjoyed it. But I did not think it was as good as the original rice. And the original is cool. Like, part of the reason they did is popped up in some sort of photo of it. It's filled with like, like 10 tarot cards that come with it and all this Oh, wow. That's a really nice criterion package. Not that that's unusual. That's cool. Um, well, I was just in the movie theaters. Yeah, me. I was just looking the seats. You can quote me on that. On Friday, or Thursday. I went and saw Friday. Moon fall, of course. Oh, is that out? Yeah. Oh, well, I don't even have to ask if you're smiling. Okay, but this is it okay, let's but I don't because you're gonna get mad at me later. If I leave it at that. It's It's really bad. I need to be extremely clear. It is an unbelievably bad movie in ways that it shouldn't be. There are certain moments that are so good. And the story works way better than it has any right to. I'm gonna fill me in on the premise of this again, is the moon going to fall into the earth? Yes. But the rest if I tell you anything else, it's a spoiler. So I can't tell you anything other than the moon be crazy. Yo, the gravity of the moon getting close to the Earth isn't enough to destroy it right? Then we have to wait until the moon actually touches the surface of Yeah, it has to get real close. Real close. I mean, science is hilarious. The real problem honestly is, I think it's either the cinematography or the editing, but somewhere along the way, they rushed through a lot of stuff. So it's hard to care about characters. And I was like, maybe there's too much plot. But then I was thinking about all of other Emmerich's films and all the plot b that is not that because if no, but like, seriously, if Independence Day works, and you think about all the things that happen in the people, you be in Independence Day, then this should work. So I think it's, I think if it had worked, and they'd done it right, it would probably be a four hour movie, but yeah, yeah. So I've heard none of the reviews or anything like that. Is it being well reviewed? I have no idea I can't imagine is gonna be hands. It's 40 Something on run. Yeah, people are gonna hate it. But I mean, when was the last time he did a movie that was hugely successful, and I don't want to say good, but good. You know what I mean? He did some good fun. Independence Day has its problems. And there's people that complain about whatever, I don't care he can virus doesn't matter. It's still fun. It's a fun entertaining movie with some incredible obviously star making performances. Yeah. Day after tomorrow. I really enjoyed 2012 I started to feel a little loosey goosey about it, but still a solid rewatch. And then there's a bunch of stuff that we didn't talk about. The most unbelievable thing in 2012 is that John qussuk has a license that says he's like 34 years old, whether 34 Yeah, he's not that he's one of my not favorite parts about that. I did hear that. Jackass the movie did better in the box office then. I mean, they have a really good trailer. I don't I have zero interest in watching Jackass but I was like, this trailer is pretty solid, guys. They got I mean, it's it did better. What was the budget on Jackass Do you think? million 4 million. I don't even want to think about it. But in fairness, this has a lot of Chinese money. So I don't think I think they're hoping that it does bigger in China than here and are not worrying about it. There is a random Asian character squeezed in who you don't learn the name of until very far into the film. And you're like, why are you here? Okay, I always kind of enjoyed Jackass because they do it to themselves. Yeah. As opposed to the kind of the some of the YouTube assholes who prank other people and do mean shit to them. Like, okay, you guys are stupid and insane and funny for five or 10 minutes. But at least you're just doing it to yourself. But we I didn't watch a whole lot recently, I took a I've started a big series of classes for DaVinci oh my god, like four or five, six hours a day. So it's kind of like right now. She's still alive. The editing system. Even hearing you say editing system. It's interesting because it's been color for I mean, it started off as a color software. But a lot of people are moving into it to edit. So I'm, I'm fascinated to hear how this. Yeah, it was a color system in the early 90s. It costs $250,000 Wow, as a program, which is why the only way everybody in Hollywood uses it. It's it's the gold standard of color correction for film. But what they do that I like, personally, is you've got your edit your color, your effects, your audio and your delivery system, all in the same program. And you go into the effects and changing effective immediately shows up in the Edit line. And vice versa. And it goes back and forth. So frigging smooth as opposed to how do I export this into After Effects? Okay, now it's an After Effects. I put it back that doesn't look quite right. So I gotta go back and open it up and after as Yeah. But so yeah, I did a lot of that. It was fun. It's a British company. So it's a very British tech look like for Shelton. Very nice. Very nice. And this was the tutorial was a British guy or his dementia teachers. The company is two Oh, wow. But now they're a hardware company. They're more interested in suddenly their cameras in there. Yeah, yeah. So he's I'm the reason why DaVinci has blown up Kelly because I'm sure you really care. I'm fascinated. Is it was actually packaged in for you with the BlackMagic cameras, which were these incredibly beautiful high rez cameras that a lot of people were getting because they were slightly affordable. And doing cool drone stuff and all kinds of crazy shit. So yeah, and now they you can get about 90% of the program for free. Yeah. And pay like a one time to 50 to own the upgraded and then for lifetime upgrades are free when I have yet to run into a single thing in this that I could not that I got Amma wishes things in Premiere. Hmm, interesting. or Final Cut. But yeah, so it's impressive. So see what it's like in another week it ends in March. I shouldn't be yelling at people on forums anymore. Alright, got it. Do my best. There you go. Well, since that you lead with that for your choices today. Eric. Normally I try to kind of pick something I think maybe you didn't both see. But clearly you saw nothing, Eric. No, no, I've got I've got another one to show that. I'm pretty sure neither one of you have seen. Oh, okay. No, it's not reacher is it? No. Okay. I do want to see that though. Cuz I always watch. I know, I'd like the actor playing reacher. The guy who's a hawk and yeah, Teen Titans. I watched all eight episodes. Yeah, I was just blown away by how entertaining it was. It's not high intelligence. But it's very entertaining. And that guy is a fucking wall of a man. Yeah. Like six five and 240 pounds or something like that he and all he does is wear tight T shirts and everything. I was having some moments they're like, damn, this guy is something else. It's getting in the shower again. Well, right get washed all that sweat off. I started what I saw him in his first like this show called Blue Mountain State. Yeah, I think was on FX years ago where he played the doofus guy. He played the Ask his to the coach and stuff like that. But as the series develop, they kind of figured out, it got a little bit more. He'd never got fully away from being the clown of the show. But he changed significantly. Then he did that really cool show with the cars killing where you're like a Death Race kind of thing, but is a TV series on Sci Fi. Oh, he was on that. Okay, so he was the main guy on that. So it's like this weird underground actor that I really like almost everything. I've seen him and I can't even think of his name. He's got a lot going on in real life. Because after blue state, he convinced spike to give him the rights to that. And then he went on Kickstarter and kickstarted a film version of it and directed it. Oh, nice. And then that explains a lot for the movie. Yeah. And prior to blue state, he was Aqua Man on Smallville, really? And then he became Hawk on Titans. And, uh, when they killed him off I was like, What are you guys doing? This is one of your more interesting characters. And right out of that because he didn't have a job. They reached out to him for reacher. They're like this guy looks exactly like reacher I guess so yeah. Every other creature heads or whatever they call themselves for fall in the happy now because it's not Tom Cruise anymore play in the region. I really hope they call themselves reach your heads. Yeah. Oh my god. Wow. Um, yeah. Well, I I went back through the archives to watch some content that I kind of meant to watch but didn't really end up following through on why the last man I finished up season one. Oh, how is that I haven't watched one episode. You know, at first I, I have a lot of mixed feelings about it. At first, I was pretty annoyed because I felt like the casting of Eurich was really, really off. But as the series has progressed, there's a lot of things I really like about it. I've actually kind of come around to him. And I like what they've done with Agent 335. I don't know. Anyway, and but they have done some missteps. The Amazonians are they basically just shot a bunch of chicks naked. And they're like constantly like in swimming pools and like bathing and stuff. And I'm like, this is kind of crappy man. If you guys want like a strong empowered female, and I feel like they're trying to be empowering, but they don't have their breasts cut off or each of them. They they are just women naked. So it's like, they seem to have moved away from that in story and stuff in the more like, last 2030 years. Yeah, you know, not having that because, yeah, Amazon Wonder Woman, women, true and all that True. Yeah, just I mean, just as a comic adaptation, but there is a really neat transgender character that I totally, totally love out of that show. And he's one of the best parts of the whole thing. So what is that on? That is on Hulu. Okay. Yeah, I need to check that out. So you you said that they've got some missteps, and you recommend that I check it out? Oh, God, you like it enough to? You might be mad if you love the comic, but if it's been a while, like it has been for me, then it might be fine. Yeah, if you've just read the comic, you'll probably be pretty pissed. That difference? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of shifts. Is that why you got some? Because it got just vilified. I can't imagine why people? I mean, if people love the comic, and that's your core audience, then why else would anyone else be into it? Yeah, I think the biggest problem is for me was Beth was a big shift too. So yeah, stupid, stupid stuff. But there is other cool stuff. There's some good storytelling in there. So yeah, I ran into a weird one. Yeah, vinegar syndrome. I started releasing new movies. Well, as well. And I didn't realize that I got one of their packs, you know, get five movies for 90 bucks or whatever. Yeah. And one of them is this film called The scary of 60. Hmm. Yeah, I'm not surprised. No, he's older. As I go, okay, cool. Let's check this out. One of the other new ones was sensor which wasn't great, but was pretty good. I like that. And they put it they do the same stuff to these new movies they do to their classics. We just put together these beautiful packages. Yeah. This is an interesting one. The storyline of the movie is two young women move into an apartment in New York that they found out was one of Jeffrey Epstein's dens. Ah, as he will call it I heard about this movie ah, and so there's this very weird completely unexplained concept that one of the roommates gets like possessed or something by seemingly somebody who must have really love Jeffrey Epstein because she goes around and like masturbates on his front door and outside his house I'm not sure what they're saying this lady is is she supposed to be a victim of his or what is going on here cuz she seemed to really really like him Yeah, the some other lady shows up at the front door and starts talking to the roommate and immediately like Alex Jones gets its they start spewing conspiracy theory stuff like here to pizza gate. Oh, you know who killed Jeffrey I'm pretty sure it was the Clinton Foundation like these weird throwaway lines it's not a conspiracy though right and I mean we all kind of believe that don't well they did they did somehow completely conveniently leave off any mention of the current or probably when they shot this current president there might have been involved with him. There's no mention of anything like that. It's only this corner. I found out later looking up the movie The lady that wrote it and directed it is a I don't know she's a regular but sometimes contributed Alex Jones Show. We're weird. And it's, it's so jammed in there that like two thirds of the movie through on guard harnesses. Kinda like if you want to go for it, go for it. I read one guys review. I thought it was satire. It's I don't think it's satire. Because watching the interview with the lady on the disc, she seemed pretty serious about what she was talking about. So but I don't know. But then all that shit gets put aside all of the theories behind what's going it's shot in 16 millimeter so it looks neat. And then it goes into this really weird ending which is straight out on boss like 70s exploitation movie with weird, kind of get some weird final ghost things and some battles and stuff. And it gets a lot better. Once I move past the I have to put these things in my movie moments you know, you know if you want to tell somebody your theories on movies, don't write them. If you want to put your political or whatever field theories of the world into your movie. Do it subtly. Yeah, don't just write it directly out like they get and it has moments where I'm going if your research is as good and practical things as it is on your theories. Because like I'm giving you an obsidian crystal like obsidians glass. It's not crystal to start with. It's a it's a glass and with this obsidian will protect us from the loss of Jeffrey Wow. It's it's an experience of a film is Jeffrey Epstein somehow in this movie like his spirit or she does make a brief appearance when she's killing the woman who is possessed sorry to spoil that for you guys not gonna watch this movie sounds like a garment it's very this is a odd Any idea on budget? I don't know I'm not sure it was not very high because the the director is also one of the she's the actor who says all of the conspiracy minded stuff is actually the writer director. All three of the actors are immediately dislikable Yeah, I mean, not just the the roommate that falls for the lady who comes in is immediate. It's like they're supposed to be moving into the room. Why in the hell are you moving in with this woman? She's awful. And the woman who gets possessed is sort of just this mousy an interesting character. So it's just like, there's basically three people in this movie. And all three of them are are annoying. Yeah. Say, give me somebody to cheer for here. You know? Yeah, the lady falls susceptible to whatever the ghost thing is so quickly that you don't realize it's happening. It's like, minute, she's fine. The next minute, she's like, scrolling pictures of the royal family. has, you know, you got to have the royal family thing involved? Yeah, yeah, of course. I can't why everybody working in Hollywood is a pedophile. That line was thrown into, well, we know that. So but we're supposed, but these people are our heroes, like as in the director really, actually is like, yeah, these people are great, though. It seems that way. But I'm not entirely certain at the same time. It's because I mean, it's it's a first time film. And although she does have some filmmaking talent, it's not in the writing department. Yeah. Well, when you're a writer, director, actor, that's a really, really toxic combo. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it was it wasn't it was an interesting experience. Well, I gotta tell you, wow, I need to figure out if maybe it's a brilliant idea. Is there enough of an audience that is looking for something like that? Like, like the Christian movies, right? I would imagine so. Yeah, definitely. If you keep going on Yeah, I would love it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of this stuff in there. I mean, not a lot comedies. i We should ask the nurse. Do you? Who do you expect the sales go? Do I imagine now that you bought that, Eric? You're on some kind of FBI list? Huh? Fun. The last one you've been on? Yes. Well, okay, how about we take a little break? And we're gonna come back we're gonna be talking about Southern or Southern Gothic. Yeah. My pick falls into both of those. Oh, that's exciting. Mine wants to know. All right. We'll be right back. We have returned. Vanessa, this was your sub genre. Yeah, I was really excited to explore the world of Southern Gothic slash southern horror. I haven't been to the south in a little while. I used to frequently make trips down there. And I've been missing it. And so this was a good opportunity to dive back into some of that those cultural touchstones that I ran across. It's also one of those picks that I was like, hell have we not done this before? I know. No kidding. I was like, Oh my gosh, like looking through our subjects going. We haven't done it. Yeah. Well, I'll start us off then. The movie that I went with, I looked at a lot of trailers and a lot of potential pigs. And a lot of them just were either super low budget or just I looked, I don't know, a little too tongue in cheek for me. So of course, I went with Candyman farewell to the flesh Candyman flesh and blood, I'm afraid not good. He lives in the mirror. You say his name five. Time is about to come you guys don't really believe that there's no such thing as a candidate it's true every candidate does exist. And you see that Ray's body was torn apart in one I'm gonna find out what happens is in the mirror turn to avenge his name reveal his past and fulfill his destiny in the motion picture that one the first one barely started can't be mad. Farewell to the flesh you guys are posting this. Yeah, yeah. Long ago. Yeah, yeah, actually I forgot it existed in front of the universe. Well, oh, yeah, the trailer for it was so good. And I was like, I don't know this looks like it's gonna be a fun ride. This film came out in 1995. I will say the Rotten Tomato critics have it at 25%. The audience has it at 30. So do what that what you will could not find the budget for it. But the box office brought in a whopping 13 point 9 million so don't know if that was good or bad probably was bad. Director is Bill Condor. He's done 21 things including Mr. Holmes, which is a movie I really hate. Twilight Breaking Dawn Part One and two, which is a set of movies that are not great, but whatever dream girls can see and Gods and Monsters which is pretty good. Awesome. Wow. Okay, I know. You really took a twist. He's got a range. The writer and there's several writers. Rand Ravitch has done 11 things. This was his first feature film and since he's done astronauts wife and three TV series, none of which I'd heard of. Mark Krueger has also done 11 things. He's a TV writer who did the Frankenstein miniseries a couple episodes of Damian some of Teen Wolf. He's a producer who was really behind things like 4400 Damien, Teen Wolf, so that's more his thing. And last but not least, of course, Clive Barker story by he's got 43 film credits, including Hellraiser. nightbreed and midnight train. So if you don't know who Clive Barker is, you probably don't aren't listening. You're not really into this podcast. I'm not sure why you're here. Welcome. But you might need to do some homework. Right? This is starring Kelly Rowan, who I spent the whole time being like you look so familiar. Who are you? She's been in 63 things. She's the mom and the OC. So I guess that's where I know are from. She was also Peters mother and hook. She was on the gate she was in load some dove TV series. Also in it starring Veronica Cartwright's as the the mother character. She was of course Lambert and alien. And Felicia Alden in Witches of Eastwick, she was in the birds invasions, Body Snatchers lots of TV and still really working today Bill none I recognized as he's the Reverend in this not like a huge role but I was like I know you they powdered your hair white See, look old, but he was in the SpiderMan Raimi films as Joseph Robbie Robertson. He's kind of in it throughout. Yeah, he's in all three films. He's also an extreme measures Kiss the Girls runner, Runaway Jury. And last but not least, Tony Todd s Candyman at Tony Todd has been in 241 things. That man Oh my god. Of course, he's been in Candyman also in the rock the crow. He does a lot of voice acting now. I think that's where a lot of His credits come from. So just half life Alyx he just did the voice of zoom. He was in the Flash TV series, and also shut up recently in 14 episodes of Young and the Restless, which I feel like I really want to hunt down. That's a very small amount of episodes. I know but just long enough to have a story stent, you know, like is that that's two weeks. Yeah. Watch that. And then you're going to start talking about the young and the rest of the story time ago, man, I gotta find out what happened. He went off the cliff and it didn't see the character. I don't know my guys, I was watching my story. My mom and grandma, grandmother and aunt all religiously watched soaps when I was growing up and I never caught on so I think I'm safe. Um, I was the one watching Star Trek and like the Beauty and the Beast TV series, and they're like, where are these monsters? All right. The plot of this we come in three years after the Candyman murders in Chicago. We start off with Professor Purcell has written a book all about the Candyman. It's really a cool looking book actually, it looks almost like a mix between a Stephen King sort of a front cover with a dripping you know, read Candyman letters and it's got a reflective mirror jacket. Which really cool idea for Candyman book. He's come to New Orleans to do a lecture on the mythology of the character. Someone in the audience asks if he thinks Candyman is real and He he's like, Of course he's not real and they're like alright, prove it and he's like I will and he picks up the book which has the mirror cover and he says Candyman and it five times and then a immediately a giant hook comes out from behind a screen and get some written the bullet and then he's like, Haha, gotcha guys. It's my assistant Good job bill are so this movie loves your reading of that script. And it was a this has so many fake outs is ridiculous. So of course, after the the lecture, somebody follows him out a guy named Ethan Tarrant, who is very, very angry with a professor. In fact, he holds him partly responsible for his father's death. His father believed in the Candyman, and had reached out to this guy and the guy had basically said, we'll just say his name, it will see he's nothing. And of course, Ethan's father died in a really horrific way. Even follows this professor into a bar basically attacks him and then is thrown out. The professor goes into the restroom alone. The perfect place to go. Definitely not where you'll be killed by Kenny man. And in one of the stalls, a man appears a black man appears and goes out washes his hands. I know. A handsome black guy. He's looking at the dude like what's your problem? He's like, wrote this book. Awkward. A bit cool if he gets to the sink and he's washing look good, like, make cans looking good. And then of course, dude leaves and the door swings a few times the lights go out and actual Candyman appears and really kills him for real this time. So New Orleans is being stalked by Candyman activity. There have been several killings in the last year. There's just like artwork all over the place. There's a bunch of pieces of paper that have been printed off obviously very hastily with a hook hands and a big no symbol through it. That's a creative Nardone man. No kidding. We don't want you here, sir. Be out. And, and of course, Ethan is now being blamed for all of these murders because he attacked the guy right before his murder. Now his sister, Ethan's sister is an art teacher who teaches art to low income students. I think I'm not really sure. But you know, she's that that magical white girl teacher who's working in the inner city, helping out these kids really given them something they can't get anywhere else, I guess. She is called way to go and talk to her brother who's now in prison. And she tells Ethan, who has now written a full confession to this murder. She's a you have to tell them the truth. There's no way you did this. Like why are you confessing to this murder? And he's like, don't worry about it. Stay out of my business, sis. And she's like, it has something to do with our father, doesn't it? Yes. You're on the journey I am on All right, cool. Father got it. All right. In the art class, she returns one of our students starts drawing Candyman and she of course tells everyone look you gotta it's he's not real. And they're like, no, he's been killing all the people in our neighborhood. She's like, No, like, come on. You guys are taking this way too seriously. So she walks over to a mirror in the classroom and she's like, I'm going to prove it. This is nothing and says the name five times and a B appears at the window. She and another student goes out and looks at the B for a long time. That's very weird. Yeah. So soon Candyman is of course stalking her, killing the people around her. He wants her to join him. She'll sound pretty familiar. There's, of course more to the story. Her family is somehow intertwined with his history of some kind. It definitely has nothing to do with her house that she grew up in. That was on an old plantation and in like one of the early scenes she's like, Yeah, there's the slave quarters down there. But my father said that, you know, we could never play down there. I'm like checkoff slate slave quarters. Come back. And sure enough, don't worry. It does. It's a pretty neat film. We've got it all set against the New Orleans backdrop, getting ready for Mardi Gras. It's kind of in this countdown timeline. The she's kind of, we're just following her all around the city as she's trying to put things together. It's pretty neat because we get to see like the big cemetery in the New Orleans area. I can't remember the name of it now, but it's very, very cool. You get to walk through the dam is yelling at you, right nine. Almost had it. It's like in there. I've been there. It's great. You know, I don't know, I this story isn't really worth delving too far into I think if you really are Candyman completionist feel free to go and check it out. It's Candyman fair. There's candy man. He does The Candy Man things. Do. I thought that the Candyman was supposed to be in Chicago. Why is he in New Orleans? Well, they write a story just for that. So I mean, the slave quarters because they rewrite some of the history and he was now a slave. There. I don't know why he was in Chicago now. Confused about that? I was like, Wait, wasn't he from Chicago? And that's why he's in Chicago and like twin Tony Todd's. Yes. Chicago on his soul was split in many pieces, much like a broken your melody. Yes, you've already come up with a cooler idea that anything in this movie, I will say that the ending actually has a really interesting getting rid of Candyman moments. They have some really early bad CGI going on where they do break him into pieces. It's both awesome and really awful at the same time. So some some general thoughts on this film. The art in it actually, aside from those like print offs that look really bad throughout the art is really good. She goes into her old abandoned home at one point they had left. I don't know why they don't explain it. But her family had left this big, beautiful mansion. And it's now filled with like homeless people. And it's got a lot of graffiti on the walls and it feels really authentic. And in fact, a lot of stuff that they walk through and go around feels very true to the south. But in her home when she goes up to the the, I don't know, the attic area, there's a huge several huge murals of the Candyman. And they are gorgeous to look at. I think they did a really great job of showing a city that is very artistic and takes that art and expels their pain through it in a really neat way. However, there are issues for example, when she goes to the courthouse to try to help her brother apparently it's really hot. We know this because everyone talks about how hot it is. And there are these like fans moving real slow real like Southern slow you go Western around everyone's like God so high except for everyone's wearing long sleeves. And like the one of the deeds is in a leather jacket with like the fur rim I'm like what believable guys if it's hot wear like shorts or some shit. Everyone should be sweating. This is stupid. They're also the soundtrack throughout this is extremely not the music. The sound effects throughout this are extremely frustrating. Every time there's a jumpscare there's this like pig squeal sound that's like and the first time it happened, I was like, Is there where's the pig? There is no pig you're just supposed to be surprised. And a lot of the jumpscares are not that like you know it's about to happen. It's like a guy is gonna put a hand on a shoulder you know cuz you see him behind her hanging out and then he just walks forward and puts his hand on her shoulder and she jumps and they make the sound I'm like that's not how it jumpscare work not extra says three How could you make that sound again it's almost like a pterodactyl pig. That's the only way to describe them also kind of book ending this there's a vo throughout that's the this radio host who's like the the king fishers what the suit calls himself and he's got that real Guys watch out Mardi Gras coming down. And this is our time to party, whatever, whatever. But he sounds like a cool black dude. And then at the end, you see him in the flow and he's just a fat white guy and I'm extremely disappointed. But they also way over utilize him to give away like plot and to explain what's happening like all the time, he's like, tuck your kids in at night. The Katie man might be coming for him. He's been making an appearance all day long. Like, okay, dude, great. Yeah, it's a little too much. And just a lot of logic floss just a lot, a lot logic flaws all the way through out this whole thing. It's just a lot of times you're like, why did you say that to that person, they don't care. And also, the familial connection between our lead female character and Candyman spoiler, there is some kind of line maybe he might be her great, great grandfather. So every time he tries to say, Come away with me, I basically want to fuck you in hell. I'm like, that is your great grand, great, great granddaughter. That's gross. Don't do that, sir. I'm sorry. I need some level of respect for the Candyman. And you're really taking it away. Just a little bit of trivia not not a ton on this. Bernard rose originally conceived a sequel to the 1992 hit Candyman as not featuring the eponymous character at all, but instead continuing to explore the nature of the urban horror myths. This was quickly scratched out when the producers figured out the audiences were only going to show up if they because they wanted to see Candyman eviscerate his victims. To make sense. The director of Candyman originally had another concept in mind for the sequel, which was they? He wanted, okay, basically says he's pissed. I have a quote here. They originally wanted us to do Candyman too. But they didn't like the idea for the sequel. They made the Candyman into a slave which was terrible because the Candyman was educated and raised as a free man. We wanted to make him like the African American Dracula, which I think was so appealing to the African American community because they finally had their own Dracula. The Candyman was a poet and smart he was really he wasn't really a monster. He was sort of a classical figure. And somebody else says the sequel that Bernie wanted to make was his prequel where you see Candyman and Helen fall in love. It was all turned down because the studio didn't want to do an interracial love story. Bloody disgusting in 2020 reported that the there was another unmade follow up titled Candyman to the midnight Meat Train. Rose was meant to be the director once again and it was supposed to be all about a mythological figure haunting the early 90s London. The sequel would have been somewhat based on Clive Barker's books of blood short story taking place in the subway. The Midnight knee train inspired follow up when unproduced until obviously, it became a movie because the studio felt like the screenplay was just too risky. The only scene that was left in place from the original draft was when Candyman is shows up and kills the professor. There was also a lot of controversy about the poster because I used to advertise Candyman too because this was during the OJ Simpson trial and it was still very public and ongoing so the picture of black man stalking white woman was seen as controversial in and the original artwork was quickly omitted. The movie is available from shout factory and streaming free on Paramount plus and prime. Correct me if I'm wrong, this poster or the poster I remember has like a beautiful woman kind of in white, and she's kind of staring up or something and there's like a honeycomb or does that I think another like, I feel like the one I saw is like him and some bees. Okay, yeah, I don't know. Maybe there's a few floating around. But yeah, because a lot of times I'll get the video cover. Yeah. confused with the movie cover, sir. Yeah, I just remember thinking about the only thing I liked about this movie was the poster art. Oh, gosh. Yeah, you know, I think there was things in there that I enjoyed, but the actual writing was pretty rough. All right. All right. Now, let's go to even rougher then, Oh, fancy going back down into the sovereign vaults, or 1980 ones a day of judgment to the house of the Lord. Mind The whole thing holds together as a kind of, to me the kind of almost like an EC comics with a with a slight Christian twist to it. I was tasked with creating some more exciting demise for some of the characters. I was living the dream at that point oh, start out by saying this was another one with absolutely no ratings on Rotten Tomatoes. It was findable though. I'm like the undertaker but you know, wasn't even there. This was directed by Charles Reynolds. Only filming directed written by Tom McIntyre, the only film he wrote. Here's where we get to the people who've done some stuff. William T. Hicks started was in huge and death screens. Harris Bloodworth and Deborah Bloodworth. Were both in return to the code return and the curse of the Jackalope. I kind of want to see at least one of those. Susan Bloodworth was also involved. So so well family they're not a singer. I don't think there may have been one but I don't think a single actor in the entire movie has an IMDB photo. And I don't believe the director the writer do as well. So I'm guessing somebody else but this MDB for them. The opening credits are a very bizarre Renaissance music. What's this going to be? And boy, I had no clue. There's a it opens with a scene of obviously very low budget, very low budget regional film shot and depending on who you look, listen to either North or South Carolina. But so we start off with this guy who's kind of an asshole and talking about how he likes to satisfy the customers. While talking to the lady he's helping. Yeah. The the movies very hard to place in time initially. Because the clothing is late 1800s, early 1900s. Probably but the rooms that are in or Yeah, it looks like the walls around us right now. As far as the white and the way they're designed. Shutting somebody department. Yeah. I think it's, it's an 1820s is supposed to be. So it looks like they you know, they went to they found a good local theater and rated their wardrobe. For the stuff though they did have three fairly nice era cars. Oh, cool. In the end, they actually had three because they were all in one shot together. Oh, like all right, pull that one off. And then there's, there's a priest wandering around who's in a lot of debt, who goes to a banker who turns him down and tries to get new things. And guys again, no usury used to be against the Bible. The bank manager doesn't care. For some reason, there are three and there this is never explained. But for some reason, whenever the priest shows up and go someplace, there's three older women dressed all in black following him around. I don't know why pre Steve stuff. I don't know. They never they, they They're the only people in the church he's preaching to at the beginning of the movie, and then they only appear a couple times of him and then at the end of the movie again. I don't know. I don't have anything in my Catholic roots to give answers. The what's the Trinity? The Holy Trinity? Maybe, sir. He kind of maybe you started put together with his movies kind of. There's then there's the scene of it skips and skips so there is no through line in this movie. It's a series almost a series of vignettes. And you get introduced to these new characters and sometimes they cross over between the vignettes and sometimes they're just Here's their story and it's done. And you never you almost you don't see him again for until the end. This one now there's a bunch of little kids playing with a ball that gets into the old lady's yard and she yells at them and they send their pet goat to fetch the ball for sure. As you want to do as a child in the 20s we don't have dogs and cats yet. Dogs and cats hadn't been invented yet. And she killed out. I was like oh, okay shit. And now we move to a gas station guy kind of run through these kind of quick but and he's like putting his family away in the put them put them in the old folks home. Yes there we'll get them to sign away their legal rights and stuff and So now we finally get a killer in the movie is the Grim Reaper and comes and takes out the lady that killed the goat. So she comes out and all of her flowers have been ruined. And then ground opens up and pulls her down and like nice. Basically, this movie is full of awful people doing awful things. Adultery, pretty sad adultery, because, you know, there's this, this, the notes and trivia will let you know, this movie was shot with religion in mind. So these two go to their house to commit adultery against the guy who's out of town. And apparently at some point, they went upstairs and they did it came back down. I don't I thought they were still just talking in the front room about having an affair. Oh, they they did. Because when the guy comes home and goes, well, you guys didn't technically do anything yet. There's actually a couple of decent performers. There's a director of sheriff who shows up in several of them like he's there with the kids and the goat and a few other ones that okay, he's pretty good. I'm pretty sure this was all put together by that same theater that provided the clothing where you get the regional actors where there's always one or two of them that are pretty damn good. And he was one of the hosts. The the Grim Reaper, instantly reminded me of Robert England in the Phantom, the weird makeup they did on him. I mean, it's nowhere near as good. Okay, but it had that look. There's a brief scene of a guy getting his head cut off that's bizarrely graphic and the rest of this film. I'm just gonna spoil the end of this movie, because if you want to watch it, you're still gonna want to watch it no matter what I say. But I'm guessing a lot of you are not gonna watch this. It basically ends with the all the awful people following Grim Reaper into hell or whatever. And then every one of them waking up Christmas carol style, realizing that they haven't died, they haven't gone to hell, and they can redeem themselves. Oh my god. So the end of the movie is the church that only had three people and it suddenly has like, hundreds of people going into this church, my God led in by the three ladies. Wow. So the only real devout Christians Yes, whatever. They're the so you know, that's the the end. Instead of saying the end, it's the beginning. Oh, no. And then the 1010 commandments scroll past this movie is called Day of Judgment. Yeah. And it's advertised and promoted as a slasher film. Southern did you get did you get secret Christian filmed? looks it looks fantastic. treated like every Severan movie. They've got interviews with some of the people that were involved in making it and that it by the end of through the middle is kind of boring and dull by the end once you sort of figure out what's going on. Like, this is a fascinating curiosity of a film. A couple of taglines first here, the Nike to claim to collect his own don't suppose me and with his power safe sinners or avoid war awarded, they're just punishment. No one should ever be forced to say that out loud. Bad Yes. If however, the guy who did the music for it worked on, he wasn't full composer, but the soundtrack or something they call them has worked on 53 Other projects, including zombie land, deliverance, copout, and the Muppet Show, or the Muppet Movie. Wow. They must have given him a truck full of money. Yeah, I don't know if he was local or already knew the people. It was shot over six weeks, when they were shooting it. If they were shooting on a Saturday night. They had to stop at midnight. I said not shoot at Sunday, right at all. That's the Lord's day. All right. Wow. The when it first was starting to be put out there, the studio says I don't we don't know what to do with this. You know that that direct marketing thing from the 50s was going 60s was going away and they haven't quite they haven't got to what you can do now where you can just put it out on video and show it to churches or whatever. So they inserted the violent scenes. The original sin of the old lady who killed the goat was just sent her flowers gonna die. So he went back in and shot a scene with the Grim Reaper there and her being pulled into the ground and another set some a different director shot the guy getting his head cut off and all this other stuff to make it a horror movie. Okay, so that was the plan. They were like well how do we get this into theaters? Wow, you can only do this as a horror movie because nobody's gonna see it otherwise this kind of what they have to see anyways it was the one of the main interviews was Steven throw a giant book of nightmare USA, which in all the movie books I own is the largest. It's frigging huge. It's like a little larger than your average coffee table book and almost 600 pages long. Oh, my God. Whoa, buddy make volumes. Come on. He was fun to listen to. He's really good interview. The apparently when this was put out, I think it came out last year. There's a couple truncated interviews because everyone's working on a documentary involving either this film or I don't know if it's going to be another one of their series of odd religious based or odd, odd. locally made films are something I don't know. It was originally intended to as a film to be shown in film and be shown in churches, but they couldn't get any funding in it. And they tried to work around I'm not sure how they did it as a horror movie before it was cut. It depends on who you listen to. Things happen to different times. The director they hired was an atheist. So the producers were the ones putting on the right can't shoot on the Sabbath things. Edward I was watching. The film was not released in a large audience largely because the producer, they tried to self distribute it just died on the vine. Nothing happened with it. And in a weird twist of suffering crossover, Charles the director was an ad for owl Adamson is really really strange children film. Carnival Magic. He also acted in it. Oh, I didn't realize he had a children's film. Oh, man. It's weird. And it's borderline children's. But it's a story of a gorilla in the circus. Or not a gorilla but a chimpanzee in the circus. Huh? Yeah. So okay, that was unique. What did they experience? What so just remind me what year did this movie Come on? Anyone? Okay, so at one set in how holy smokes. Yeah. Well, I was I looked through a bunch of films. I thought I was gonna do skeleton key. Oh, sure. I can't remember her name right now but the one blonde lady Yeah, very pretty. And I started watching it and I I've remember kind of liking it and 1520 minutes into it. I could not see at all why I liked it. I also actually this is US News fast. What was I thinking? Hmm. So I did a little more research and I found for the first time watch, eaten alive. If you were one of the millions of movie goers who are electrified by the unbearable suspense and sheer terror of Jaws, get ready for eaten alive. Created by Toby Hooper, maker of the screen sensation The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, muddy rushed and presents a new horror classic eaten alive. into this house of terror comes a handful of unsuspecting innocents Hello, what happens to these people and eaten alive we'll give you the most chilling terrifying 90 minutes you've ever spent nothing. Marty Rustem presents even the light Melfa rare for Carolyn Jones. Stuart Whitman Neville brand. Get ready for eaten alive on you horror classic In 1976, a budget of $520,000 I could find no box office information. The Rotten Tomatoes critics have it at 35% and the audience has it at 30% Directed by Toby Hooper, who directed the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. He did the Salem's Lot TV miniseries, he might have directed some poltergeist written by El Alvin l fast, who wrote Satan's cheerleaders, Marty Rustom, who wrote evils of the night which is like real bargain basement bullshit. And Kim Henkel, who wrote Texas Chainsaw Massacre last night at the Alamo and the unseen. Neville brand is the lead in this as Judd. He has 138 credits including the ninth configuration, Torah, Torah, Torah, Birdman of Alcatraz, Mel Ferreira, who has 108 credits. He was in nightmare city, The Sun Also Rises the Knights of the Round Table. Marilyn burns returns for more torture after appearing in the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre. She was also in future kill. And she is in the 2022 Texas Chainsaw on Netflix this month, which is kind of a Halloween kind of remake. I heard about it but laying herself 50 years later. Yeah, it's just like, oh, wow, that was a stretch and Halloween. That's a real, real stretch. Yeah, I'll watch it. Oh, yeah. This also has Robert England in it was Freddy in the Nightmare on Elm Street movies. Okay, Eric, you see Oh, yeah. Vanessa, you have not seen cracked? This is a weird one. Yes. Things with a shot of a belt buckle being popped open. And a man saying my name is buck. And I'm Miranda fuck. Oh my god. And we are in a room in a whorehouse. Although this is the shadiest set I have ever seen. And if I walked into a movie being shot on the set, I would turn right around leave how much I would be paid because they've literally tacked like a velvet curtain on one wall and push the bed up against it. And the rest of the place is just white walls that look like they were just thrown up real quick. It's a it in no way looks like a real room in a house. Even a 1976 horror or house. But Buck is Robert England. And he is with a pretty young whore. As you do Yeah. And he's paid his 20 bucks and he wants anal sex. Oh, whoa, is not okay with it. I'm not sure what the going rate for anal sex is going to be more than 20 I would think so. You guys ever tried anal sex. I don't want to have this conversation. I'll just tell you this. It sounds fun, but it really hurt my butt. Anyway, he tries to finally rape her in this opening scene. And she puts up enough of a fight that the owner of the whorehouse played by a very weird looking Carolyn Jones who was Morticia in the original Addams Family TV show. He throws or she throws her out. And she asked to move on. And she ends up at Judd sleazy motel, which is the starlight hotel. This is not a hotel by any means. It is a two story house with a big huge swamp right off of the side porch. And the swamp is all fenced. So it seems like she's going to be our protagonist. Judd, the owner of the place quickly makes her feel awful for being a whore and then also funnels her up because she is a horror. She's but when she resists him, she is tossed off the front deck and into the pond. Where jets pet alligator quickly Chows down. Oh, yeah, I saw that comment. Points to Toby for wanting to show the monster immediately. But he really should have held this thing is a ridiculous looking prop. And it's also not a big prop. Alligators like maybe, I don't know, 12 feet long and six of it is tail. So if you are being attacked in real life by 12 foot long alligator terrifying. Yeah, but we are used to 30 foot long alligators in our movies. And this looks silly because it's just, you know, one of those mouth opening things that looks for us. And it is. Yeah, it's definitely an alligator. Vanessa, do you know the difference between an alligator and the crocodile? Oh my god. I've been waiting for this day and I have not prepared an alligator. I'll see you later. And a crocodile will see in a while. Oh my god. That's beautiful. Holy crap. I think I've used this joke on you three times in the course of our show and you fall for it really? Yes. No memory forgettable. Shortly after she dies, a family shows up, they end up getting a room and you think you're going to identify with any of them. But we soon find out that the husband is some kind of weird, fucking sweaty, unhinged dude. And after their family dogs eaten by the gator, the husband takes matters into his own hands and is quickly fed to the gator himself. And the wife and the daughter are attacked by Jed. The wife is Marilyn burns from Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and she spends the rest of the movie tied to a bed screaming. So while the daughter who's like eight manages to escape under the porch, but she is routinely attacked by Jed who's like shoving stuff down between the slats and porch trying to get her and the alligator that is trying to get her from the sides. Oh my gosh. So she barely escapes. Every time. It's it's ridiculous and fun. It's an alligator. You just need to watch this for this hour. And this is about the time that I realized that Toby was playing a big joke on us because Judd who is the awful owner of the starlight hotel is our protagonist. In this super sleazy nightmare logic film it is oh my god, so weird looking. Another couple of lives and they're actually the parents of the horror and the first scene and they're looking for their daughter. They get very suspicious very quickly. The screaming woman tied to the bed is big. And let me just say that the cycle continues and you're kind of beaten up by the ridiculous horror of this film because everybody gets killed. Everybody gets thrown into the swamp. Everybody gets eaten by the gator. That's one happy Gator. Yeah. Much like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The women in this film exist only to suffer. Sure. And the men are either completely worthless or deranged beyond belief. And it really made me wonder what was going on in Toby's life before film. Yeah, I was just thinking about you're like, what where's he drawing this inspiration and this idea about humanity? It is the leak. And, and also it cemented for me my belief that he had very little to do with the directing and poltergeist no matter what. Yeah, it's totally so it's similar. Yes, absolutely. Buck shows up again. Be in his sleazy self takes advantage of someone and then is killed and pretty satisfying way. Maybe the only satisfying death in the movie. Is this guy being killed finally. And I'm sure you can guess what Judge final fate is. So I won't get into the ending of this film. But I will say that, as I was watching it, I couldn't look away. There was some kind of weird fascination. And I think I kind of like it it. It is streaming free on Tubi. It has this bizarre, unrealistic look to the entire thing, which is weird because Texas Chainsaw Massacre. This is his movie right after Texas Chainsaw Massacre, which is almost documentary looking. Yes, hyper realistic. And this is it doesn't even look like it takes place on Earth. Yeah, it gotta be a studio it is. But the exterior is a huge set. The exterior of the hotel is a huge set. Everything looks fake, the trees and everything around, it look great. And the lighting looks like they're on Mars. Everything outside is red is let lit by a dull red glow, and all the shadows are blue. And it's just like, What the fuck and there is a fog machine going or something that makes it look like something is on fire like right off of the edge of the it's so thick. Inside in between the weird kills is just Judd at the center of everything. And he's either mumbling to himself, or he's moving from room to room to hear what's going on in different parts of his hotel, or he's singing or he's dusting furniture. He's turning a lamp on or he's reading a magazine. It's just this weird shift going on in between the awful deaths. And all of this is being scored by this freaky bizarre electronic soundtrack that I guess Toby Hooper composed? Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh my god, this sounds like somebody who got all the toys, and was like, oh my god, I finally have a set and I finally have lights and I finally have a fog machine and I can finally use a monster Eye light. And not only that, but $520,000 to make. So that must have seemed like, you know, he hit the big day. No kidding. Okay, I have a little bit of trivia here. And it doesn't involve the difference between a crocodile and an alligator. And it's trying to remember next. The plot was very loosely based on the story of Joe ball, also known as the bluebird from South Texas or the alligator man who owned a bar with a live alligator attraction during the 1930s and Elmendorf, Texas. During this time, several murders of women were committed by Bob and the legend is that he would dispose of his victims bodies by feeding them to his pet alligators, but it was never proven that the flesh found in the pit was human. However, COBOL committed suicide at his bar on September 24 1938, when he was about to be arrested by police in connection with the murders. sounds totally innocent to me. filmed entirely on the sound stages of Raleigh Studios in Hollywood, California, which had a large scale pool that could double as a swamp. Shooting on a soundstage, instead of a practical nation location contributed to the atmosphere of the film, which director Toby Hooper described as a surreal surrealistic Twilight world. However, the film eventually proved to be problematic for the director who left us out the set shortly before production ended due to a dispute with the producers. Well. It says here the fog effects of the swamp scenes were used using dry ice in the sale of earlier Hollywood horror films. That's fun. First line of dialogue. My name is Buck I'm here to fuck. In Kill Bill Volume One. actor Michael bones character Buck repeats the exact line before forcing himself on a comatose bride. Quentin Tarantino up to his old tricks. Yep, absolutely. When eaten alive was released on home video under the title Deathtrap in 1982. The film became one of the first of the so called Video nasties to be processed under the obscene publications. Wow. And then finally, Ken Hankey in the official splatter Movie Guide reappraise the film as a misunderstood masterpiece that captured the otherworldly madness of the death of the amateur night and Dixie brand of the American dream. Not sure that I will go as far as to say that it is a misunderstood masterpiece. But I did kind of enjoy this. And then finally, I liked this one bill Gebran of PopMatters gave it a rating of six out of 10 stars, noting that the film's sloppy script, poor lighting and lack of narrative sense, but stated that the film was so undeniably inept, so horrendously humble, so Gosh, darn god awful, that it's friggin great. And I do kind of agree with them. Well done. Build Gebran your life live until the Yeah, the Tobe Hooper catalog does indicate that poltergeist was not his much his stuff because Eaten Alive is so when he's given that much control is just gritty and dark and uncomfortable and not mmm entertaining way. Right and although you know you get to the Salem's Lot miniseries that TV miniseries and it's pretty good. It's pretty straightforward. And you know, I don't know it's hard to say. I'm sure he had a lot to do with it. But I'm also sure he had a lot of like Spielberg over there talking to them what you wanted to dp about nothing more about it. Or maybe Spielberg? I can't see Toby directing the children in poltergeist sir. And you know, I see that as a very Spielbergian rattling part of that movie. So huh. Okay. That means I believe that it is my turn for the next sub genre. And I've got a good idea you guys. Okay, goes like this. John Doe boogie. John Jenga. Georgia. 70s. boogeymen? No, you have to set up with a genre film that takes place in the jungle. Oh, okay. I can do that. Sounds great. On top of that, this is the part where we say thanks to everybody for participating in the value for value model for liking and sharing posts sharing when the episode drops and sending us notes. 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