202 AROUND THE TABLE!
Kelly doesn't want your sympathy or your Meyers-Briggs results!
Also discussed: Titans, Wendell and Wild, and Clerks 3 AGAIN for some damn reason.
Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition such sites to show you strange aeons. Welcome strange aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That's Vanessa over there. Hello. I'm Kelly. Hey guys, I just wanted to say that over the last couple of weeks, I have gotten a ton of personal messages and texts and stuff from people who reached out after our 200th show, some of them to say, hey, Kelly, sorry to hear you're going through depression. I've done you know, I've had that myself. And so I've done this to get through it and things like that. I think that's really nice. Nice. I also had a ton of people who were telling me their Myers Briggs Personality types. And let me just tell you, this, you guys, I didn't care much about that. I thought it'd be a fun show. I don't remember what I am. So these people going I'm an INTJ. I'm like, I'm an HR GK. I don't remember what I am. And I don't care. I put all that stuff just a notch above zodiac signs, which is to say, I don't buy it. But I thought it was really answer some questions. Yeah, her two zodiacs instead of just being born into one of 12 types. But I thought it was just really nice to get those kinds of reactions. So thank you so much, everybody who reached out to me. Yeah, and apparently screw you to the people who want to share their own personal information with Kelly, who the fuck do you think you are? He doesn't even care about us. I've got a life you guys. I will just say that. Carlos, okay. Our buddy Carlos came up. He took care of my depression in the way that only he could, which was to make fun of me. And, and when I, when I told him that I was really going through something he said, describe this depression to me when I said I really don't know how to do that. And he was like, okay, it doesn't exist. It's not how it works, but I find it. Tough Love is what I would call that it made me feel a little better. I went and hung out with him last night. He barbecued me up some nice meat. And then at the end of the night, he gave me his own. Oh my gosh. How many does that make for you? Now that makes six but this is the first time I've had one of the tiny eight gig ones that I'm trying. I'm trying to get it to work and it plugs in fine, but it doesn't seem to be taking a charge very well. Carlos, I'm going to turn that into my private podcast zoom the only so yeah, pretty. Pretty good time over here, you guess. But I'm so so glad that you know. The dude took you for some good dude time and got your dude Zune. Yeah, it was good. zoutelande good dude. Time. And then after that, we bought tickets for air supply coming up on Valentine's Day. Oh, my God, we were scarless his wife gonna be? Well, who knows how that's gonna work out. Some of us just Can't Fight This Feeling any longer. Wait, that's variable speed like and never mind. That's alright. You've seen them a lot too. So you can tell him how the show works. Yeah, I actually fought him when he was saying he was buying the tickets. said Carlos. I made promise to myself. The last time I saw air supply that this was the last time I was going to see air supply. But here I go again on my own. Oh, my God is still missing. Listen, you know what I did? See that didn't put a smile on my face. Smile. Oh, yeah. Love it. I'm so happy. I'm listening to these people who do love it. And I want to just throttle them and say What are you What movie did you watch? A creature was good. Other than that, lots of issues. I thought the last 20 minutes you know was pretty solid. But man, it was a fucking slog to get to it. Yes. And it doesn't make any sense. And like it's so overdramatic at every turn. She's the worst therapist I've seen in my entire goddamn life. Every person she meets you've seen a lot. I know. Every person she meets to trips over her like talking to them and they get pissed and they start screaming at her every single time I'm like you're an awful to eat cannot read people at all. Well, that's the tough love therapy you're just talking about exactly. She and Carlos get along just fine. Yeah, I thought it was a real bummer. The this smiling. I guess I wanted it to be creepier if they had just augmented that a little bit with CGI to make it look inhuman. I think that that would have been cooler because at some point it does turn very inhuman. I don't know, this falls into that fucking what was I calling it the procedural horror, where you have to go and research a bunch of shit to find out about your horror. I just don't like these kinds of movies. Yeah, and there. There's a thing that really bugs me that happens in this and I don't? I don't know. So. I mean, it's been out long enough that I think I can say, I haven't seen it, but I don't care. Okay, well, that makes me feel better. When the creature at the end starts to become different versions of itself. At one point, first of all, it doesn't become something that she's just afraid of. It seems to just become Buffalo Bill. And I feel like it's really transphobic until it becomes the actual creature. It's just like a tall dude running around in tights. And like women's underwear is like, that's not what you got. I mean, yeah, tall dude was like 12 feet tall, but still. Slender, man. I mean, like, not quite, but it's like, it's just a crossdresser I didn't get that at all. That was supposed to be her mom, you know, but last year's version of her my maid. I know. But the mom became just a man. I think it was just the ugly chick No, to Mad baby. So I was really like getting a lot of very heavy Buffalo Bill vibes. And I was like, This is fucked. You guys. Like if you're if the thing she's afraid of is like a man wearing women's clothing? I don't know. But that's I don't know. That's what I got out of it. Wow. Well, you know what? easy to spot a yellow car when you're thinking about a yellow. Oh, my gosh, I was not thinking about a yellow car at all. And also the peak sick. When anyway, it's fine. Whatever. Can't wait for you to see this. This falls into that we're like a bunch of when I posted on that 100 days thing that I'd seen sinister. And some people respond like how could you have not seen this Jarmon their film? So once they come out? I get this gut feeling about like, I don't need to see this. Yeah. And that's how I before smile. The ads are so cool. And that weird shit they did for baseball. I was like, Wow, this looks cool. Then it came out and I'm gone. I think I need to see this. So I'll see it eventually. Just because that's how it works. Watch any me? I literally saw it because I wanted to go to the movie theater. I'm hoping you went to the movie theater this weekend. I have not yet because they're all sold out. Oh, okay. Nobody's gonna talk about Wakanda forever. But next week, somebody will have seen it. The week after next couple episodes. From now we'll totally talk about Marvel burnout is seems to be kind of real now. And are just like, Oh, I'll see it. It's gonna come to HBO max or not HBO Max, but Disney channel and I'll see it but the driving urge. Oh, man, the new Avengers is open. Let's go see it now is just gone. I've watched a little chunk of when they introduced now more. I always used to think he was Prince Neymar. But not more. And he speaks in English with a Spanish accent. And I'm like, I can't wait to see how they explain this. So you haven't seen that? No? Okay. All right, well, then I don't feel quite so bad. Um, however, I've seen a lot of stuff since last time we talked. It's going to be hard to hard to choose amongst them. But I guess I can do a little bit of Halloween catch up. So I saw Wendell and wild. Tell us more. Yeah. Yeah. So this was a little Netflix movie produced by slash co written with Jordan Peele, and also the guy who was in charge of Coraline. And I think he did Boxtrolls and if you know what you're talking about, yeah, this one and it's really interesting seeing this film because first of all, it's awesome. It's a stop motion claymation style, but I think it's actually animated has incredible art design, like on real art design, just insane stuff of nightmares meets Cthulhu meets like, I mean, it's just non stop. Beautiful and harrowing. And also a really cool interesting story about growing up black thing that that I walked away with this was oh, Tim Burton is really not the biggest part of what made Nightmare Before Christmas Nightmare Before Christmas, right? Yeah. That's funny. You mentioned that because I just read an article from the director of that saying how, you know, I'm at a bar all the time. I'm not I'm tired of saying is that Are people not believing that I direct? Yeah. Yeah. Like I didn't realize how much of that like horror Gothic comes from this person because he's just like seething with it. And it's all unique and interesting and new and obviously from their brain versus Tim Burton stuff, which feels somehow repetitive Burton. Yeah, he's got to think he's got a thing. So I don't know, it was it was incredibly cool. But I will say it's definitely aimed at young adults. So, you, you know, your mileage may vary, you might not get as much out of it because it's not aimed at an adult audience. It's aimed at someone who is not you. So I'm looking very much forward to this. We were talking earlier and this is written by Clay McLeod Chapman and strange aeons magazine published clay McLeod Chapman twice. First time we did that late bloomer. Oh, yeah. Sorry. And then the last one was just a couple of issues before the last issue. So he really sunk the ship. Nice. Well, he goes on to continue to, I don't know it's sunk the ship means Hold on. I think Well, would you think it's a good thing? I know, if you're the fighter pilots or something, you might be a submarine then yes. It's a very good thing. You know how to do your basic job. Anyway, Eric, did you see anything? I don't know if we want to break this down. piecemeal, but I have not watched all of the cabinet of curiosities. Okay, cool. So have I? Yes. Assuming you have to, I like to behind but they were the two that I think everybody hated. So I was kind of flying them off. Okay. They were just like random to Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, just watching the order. My favorite one was the autopsy. Really? Strong? Yeah, that was a really good one and disturbing and grim. Yeah. I thought the one with the birds was interesting. I mean, the very, very standard sir hunting house story, right, that was bringing nothing new to the table. But what's interesting, at least, the graveyard rats you didn't love I thought it was fine. The problem was, I did watch them in order. And episode one and two are essentially the same story. A loser guy has got himself in trouble and has to work his way out of it. And I think if I'd worked the other way around, I would have liked it more, because His personality was at least really interesting and fun. And the rat ending was great. But about 10 minutes into going well, I just watched this. Yeah, and I still do think the very first one was by far the poorest because I felt like, Oh, I gotta eat my words later. Because as I was watching them, I was like, Oh, this one was really good. And that one was really good. And what did you think about the very last one? That was the one of the birds? Oh, I guess something in the second to last one. The one by the guy who did Mandy? Oh, it's the eccentric, rich person with I'll say this about the entire series. Every single one of these would have been benefited by trimming 10 to 30 minutes off of every single one. And that one, I was so completely into. Yeah, I thought it was amazing and reared and wild and about 45 minutes into them kind of like why are we still sat at this like brown spot do something? Oh, no, I almost wish they would have sat in that room and just done stories the whole way. Instead of doing the other thing. But I love the way that guy shoots things and does things and it looked and performances were great. But it was incredible. Again 10 minutes off of that one would have been great. Yeah. The End Of course. The the love an outpouring from the Lovecraft community for the love crash reports. I gotta say, like I said before, I appreciated the different things they tried with these two stories, I would have much more appreciated them just taking stories that hadn't been done before already. But it is kind of odd that in a series that had two Lovecraft adaptations, there were two other stories that were far more Lovecraft Yes. Drafts Yeah. And graveyard wrath was much more what was it was dreams in the witch house and what was the other one? Pitmans moto Moto, which I felt was fine. I thought that was an interesting take on pigments model. Yeah, I mean, again, 30 minutes shorter. Absolutely. I kept wondering why they felt the need to have an hour long. Yeah, you know to stick to an hour long time slot on a streaming service. No, it was kind of weird. Learn from the Mandalorian or stranger things or whatever, you know, let it be however long it needs to be. The dreams in the rich house was was rough though. Like gone. Oh, man. Yeah, I didn't like that one that much. It was kind of boring. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Overall V and the other weird aspect is del Toro is no Alfred Hitchcock, man. Wow, his intros were there's nothing to them. No, he's basically walking in going well, we're doing a story tonight directed by this person and then leaving he says like a little funny rhyme at the start of each one and like it has nothing to do with what you're about to see. What is that? Okay, like, Oh, that one would have fit really well with the last one. All right. Well, the one thing I thought was really cool was wasn't each figure he put down a figure of the director that was the man FBI director, one of these I'd be begging to get my little figure. Yeah. Oh, I'm sure I'm sure all the props in that opening work, right, the cabinet and all that stuff. We're really cool. It's just like, can you give me something that feels like you're not just collecting a paycheck? Yeah, I do. And I do want to mention, I know I said, I was really hesitant to see the one by the person who did a girl walks home alone at night. But it was really good. Which one did you do? She did the plastic surgery or not plastic surgery the cream obsess? When there was one that I really felt needed that 20 tramway, shorter design, and it was gorgeous design was great, but that story is so yeah, definitely predictable. Yeah, that was maybe my least favorite of the bunch. And that's what I think is so interesting about this is everybody has way different favorites for autopsy. Almost everybody seems to at least like the autopsy. I think that has a lot to do with the mood and acting. Yes, was so strong. And you you know, there's always something joyful about getting to see somebody who actually stands a chance against the creature. There's so many of the other ones where people are just like, Man, I guess I suck and I'm gonna die. This one felt like you can really engage with it when it's like, okay, they can fight. I watched and Eric, I don't know if you know this is back. But the fourth season of Titans is on now. Oh, I've actually gave up on titans in season three. Yeah, well, here I am again. Okay. On my own. I loved the first two episodes, I think we're three episodes in the third episode, then stumbled again. And it's like, oh, no, come on, guys. So close. I'll tell you what I do like about it. I love that they are not afraid to delve into supernatural stuff with their superheroes. And I think that's, that's a neat and unique thing that only Titans is really doing is superheroes in horror situations. So I dig in that part of it. The acting is really bad sometimes. Oh, yeah. Oh, almost all the time. Except for from the guy who plays Nightwing who's pretty solid. So I don't know. I'll stick with it. I'm just going to grumble about it the whole time. I'll tell you it really, really pissed me off when they killed hawk and dove out. Like these were the two most interesting characters. I stopped watching maybe two episodes after that, I think are a couple episodes and they popped up again gone. Watch now I probably have to go back and watch the rest of season three. Right? Well. Oh, Doom Patrol. Watch that yet. I say you're gonna say oh noob brood on the tape box that button better. Well, I another Halloween one that I watched that I didn't get a chance to talk about as of yet was I had bought and saved for Halloween night. wn UF Halloween special too. Right? Yes. Yeah. So was this one you're involved? Yeah. This is one where like, I donated and was then got a roll. She's She's pizza, isn't it? So that was fine. And it's pretty early on to one of the commercial segments for basically like a critter style movie. I didn't know what it was because I was just against the green screen. I will say unfortunately, it just doesn't quite have the magic for me as the first one. I mean, I think the first one is fine. But if you stumbled across and kind of discovered that not knowing what it was. That has got to be great. Yeah, sure. That's exactly how it was. for me. It was I had no idea what I was about to see. I was like, Oh my God. They're recreating this feeling and the style and these things and it makes me really nostalgic and whatever. And then this one is like they don't quite know what they're doing in the same way. Like it doesn't feel as firm. And it's set later. It's in the 90s and it's following like a talk show host who basically lost her job and ends up as a reporter and then there's a science fiction element that happens but I don't know, it's not. It's not directly linked to the first one. It's just another thing. There are links in there. But you don't need to have seen the first one to appreciate the second there's, there's like characters that reappear, there's nods, there's little snippets that do replay from the host of that show or back at one point for like, a moment. So yeah, that's too bad, but still fun. I hope it was still fun. It was still fun. There was plenty to enjoy within it. And your partner was and my part was great. Can people see you in this? I think you can buy it on the internet, somewhere on his own private store. I don't think he can stream it as of yet. So I think you still have to buy purchase like because I I donated money. I got like a whole big box full of stuff from it. And also one of our listeners, isn't it? Mica donated money and he has a picture of a fool. Fool of himself author. Near the end, so nice. Yeah. Well, I saw one of the ones I know Kelly was looking forward to me watching clerks three. Oh, yeah. And I will say overall, I enjoyed it a lot. Okay. But the parts were were the best for the characters he's established 30 years ago. And these two new darks introduced that were the religious, right, people were absolutely exhausting. And in it way too much. Like, yeah, you know, your yoga hose or inventions of characters is continued in these two. And they were such a vital part of the movie and absolutely unnecessary. So, but most of the stuff with the two original guys, and it was fun to see that they actually got the guy who had the Pringles raise his hand who's there like in a wheelchair or something, but they got him. But so that aspect was fun. I really could have done without the movie. Went from you enjoyed it, but had problems with it to now you ate it completely. Well, if I told you I enjoyed it. You did. I? I thought I was joking when I said that. Didn't sound like you play the tape back. Exactly. I thought I said that it was sanctimonious and his usual bullshit. Yeah, you said that to sound like I enjoyed it very much at all. But what a great segue though. No. Okay, because at one point, Danny Williford had told me that he was going to see clerks three. And Kevin Smith was introducing it and doing questions. He actually said that if he got called up for a question, he was gonna say my name was Kelly, or his name was Kelly young, and that I was his biggest fan. But I believe that we have a call on the hotline, oh, my god, strange aeons radio hotline, which is of course 253-237-4266. And it is, in fact, Danny. Hey, guys, it is a pleasure and an honor to call. I appreciate the time that you've taken to set all of this up. And by all means, use my message on the radio. I call with some trepidation because as you approach greatness, you find words fleeing from you. And over the last 200 episodes, four plus years, I have found myself continually educated, entertained, and vexed at times with the show. I usually listen to the first time on my car the second time at my desk, and I have people on my commute who know I'm insane because I'm yelling at the radio. But thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Kelly. Thank you for leading this. Eric, thank you for being the guy with all the strangest stuff, most of it not in English. And Vanessa, thank you for always bringing the full thing no matter what. Thank you guys. Keep it up. Can't wait for episode 400 Have a good night. 404 more years or doctorate in podcasting, but not in math, because it would be eight years before we get 400 Right. Because we're at 208 years total four years from a more year episode. Okay, yeah, well, listen, I was talking about me when I said listen, I am not a math methodologists mafia type person. Anyhow, let's just concentrate what was important. There was Danny saying how close he was to greatness. Yeah, there you go. So he must have been like sitting at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier or some great historical thing here. This must have been while he was just about ready to go talk to Kevin Smith in person. Wow. Danny love you can't say it enough. And thanks for all your support. We really appreciate it. Yes, thank you again if you want to call and leave us a message Carlos it is 253-237-4266 and let us know on the air if we can use your message on the air like we just did. Alright, Jamie, how about we take a little break and when we come back we're talking about something I still haven't quite figured out what I'm going to call she knows is Kraft macaroni and cheese. Denise all backwards. She thinks that she should come with for the macaroni and cheese. Tastes so good. Kraft macaroni and cheese dinner made with genuine Kraft Cheddar. What could taste better? I called the Kraft Heinz named David. Are they gonna change the name any? Think about it. Crap, cheese and macaroni we have returned. You guys. This was kind of my choice. And I still don't know what to call it. But the idea was that it was kind of sitting around the table because we're in the Thanksgiving month. So you've got the family or you've got your friends. Or you know, I heard a quote that I really liked the other day. It's not. What's not important is the family you have. What's important is the family you make. What do you think of that? That's great. I think that's great, too. Yeah, you guys are we're around a family. You go November. All right. Vanessa is trying to hug me and I'm feeling very uncomfortable. So to get back over there. I'm nowhere near you. With this sub genre in mind, I chose from 1989 society. Beverly Hills is known as a society of wealth and privilege. But Billy Whitney doesn't seem to be getting his share. He thinks everyone is out to get him. Even his friends. You never were one of us. He thinks that he doesn't belong. And they don't even look like me. Why? Why he's doing this to me. Hmm. He believes he's seeing things. Bad things. Beyond reality. Is it just his imagination? Not paranoia? Oh, my fears? Or has Billy uncovered something terrible? something unspeakable to go home? Billy. What you've been living with these people all your life and you don't know anything about it. If you don't follow the rules, Billy bad things happen. No, you'll make such a great contribution to sign you up now Billy. Billy is fighting for more than just his sanity. He's fighting for his life. The time is coming for him to take his place. In society, it's all about fitting in. I just saw this in the theater. So did I kind of I put 10 minutes on the board and I'm going to tell you all about it. A budget of $2 million. No box office information. Rotten Tomatoes critics have it at 62% and the audience has it at 52% Making his directing debut with this is Brian Hughes na who would also go on to do bright of Reanimator and beyond Reanimator as well as return of living dead three which I've spoken about on this podcast, and also Silent Night deadly night for it was written by Zeff Daniel and Rick Frey who are apparently using the writing partners they both wrote on bright Reanimator fry wrote dementia for us not and Zef wrote Silent Night deadly night for and something called the quantum devil. I don't know what that is, but I liked that title. Yeah. Starring Billy Warlock. What a great name. He should have been either a wrestler or a gunslinger I think but 38 credits including panic in the skies, steel sharks the thing below, and 462 episodes of Days of Our Lives. Oh Evan Richards who has 24 credits mostly 80s and 90s. TV, including the series Down and Out in Beverly Hills, and two seasons of Bill and Ted's Excellent adventures, that animated show where he was Bill S Preston Esquire. It also serves Devin de Vasquez 17 credits, she was a Playboy Playmate of the month in June of 85. And her birthday is June 25, making her super cool. She's been in the house to the second story, which I've talked about on this podcast. Can't Buy Me Love Toxic Avenger for citizen Toxie and has two movies in pre production right now as we speak. Wow. Yeah, I would not have expected that. No. Okay, you guys have both seen society. Okay. So this opens with Bill Whitney, who's our protagonist at his therapist. He's talking about the weird issues he has with his family, their upper high class society, and he talks about how he doesn't really trust them or feel like he is they're his real family. It's all very late 80s, early 90s therapists gobbledygook, right. We meet his family, whom all seem to be pretty horrible people. And we also meet his sister's boyfriend who is not handling the breakup with his sister very well. But it turns out it might be different than we think. He's like stopping by the house and trying to get Bill to let him in and things like that. He actually sneaks into the house at one point and it's your kind of like, weird. But he said he's hiding in her closet, sir. And watching her get dressed and everything only. There's a little twist towards the end of this movie. So the ex boyfriend gives bill a cassette tape of his sister and the rest of his family engaged in what must be some kind of epic orgy or something. And although bill is horrified, he gives the tape to his therapist. But when the therapist plays it back for Bill the next day, it's not the tape that he was given. It's like his sister's graduation party or something. So Bill is now like, I don't think I can trust my therapist. Either. We start getting these Stepford Wives type vibes and Rosemary's Baby type vibes and stuff like that. It feels very much like everybody's in on this. There's a pretty fun beach scene with hot dudes and dudettes in bikinis and shit. Because 1989 and losers, right? When movies were cool, Bill meets this smokin hot chick. And this is clearly the girl he's supposed to be with because she seems to actually like him for who he is, unlike his own girlfriend who is obsessed with climbing the social ladder and be popular invited to the most important parties and all of that stuff. Of course, his his current girlfriend is very pretty in a Buffy kind of way. Big 1989 hair blonde, she's very peppy, and all of this stuff and the girl that he's just met dark hair, so you know, she can't be trusted. Or she's smart, right? So from here, the movie takes off into some pretty weird fucking territory. But really it is just a film about classes and how they interact with the basic story of the rich get richer, the poor get poor, with a little bit of cannibalism thrown in, and then something far, far worse. Yeah, I'll just say shunting. And leave it at that. This is definitely a body horror film. So if you don't take that I would avoid at all costs. There is a ton of humor all pitch black. There's some really bad special effects followed by amazing special effects by screaming Matt George has kind of this cult FX guy from Japan who took the name George to stand out from the other students in Japan. But then the took took the name screaming mad judge to stand out from all the other George's when he came to America. He did the effects are Big Trouble in Little China predator and Dream Warriors before this movie. So I liked this movie. I don't think it's a great movie. The message is a bit on the nose of the body horror elevates it quite a bit. The acting is really bad in some scenes and quite good in others. So I guess you'd call that uneven. Sure, but it is fun. It's very weird. Cryptic con put this on as one of their move was from the crypt Liske mix from the crypt. Yes. So this was in on the big screen a couple of weeks ago. I was supposed to see that. Brian and Gwen from the HP Lovecraft Film Festival came up and I just grabbed them as soon as the credits started and we went around the corner and drank the entire time. Wait If support Yes, I paid for my ticket. Okay, that's also he drove all the way down to Renton and if you love the area, and you know Kelly That's an achievement. I appreciate you saying that. Thank you. That's a good movie theater or is it good theater? Yeah, it's a good theater. Renton Civic Theater I believe is the name of that. So, we're doing that again. We're doing that again this month, right? December, December. Okay. I have some trivia on this. Director Brian Hughes got to direct this film by agreeing to direct Brian Reanimator using his only stipulation was a society be filmed first. Writers F II Daniel came from a Beverly Hills family much like that of Bill Whitney. And many of the characters depicted in the film are based upon real people Keith knew in Beverly Hills although I imagine the shunting was not a real hope not. Yeah, hope not. Brian using the claims he back engineered the film's plot points based on special effects ideas or gimmicks, stating he was more interested in the surrealism of the story than the logic. This one I thought was very true. This is kind of fun. The hospital used for the exterior shots is the same hospital used in Halloween to Billy warlocks. Father is Dick warlock who played the shape in Halloween two. Oh, that's cool in that fun. Yes. Billy Warlock was hesitant to show his bare ass during a sex scene as it was scripted. Luckily, the scene was scheduled late in production and he was able to refuse the shot without being fired. Jokingly claimed he doesn't have a nice but Playboy Playmate Devin Vasquez said in an interview that she was used to posing nude on camera, but she had never filmed a sex scene before, so she was nervous about it. Then she found out the Billy Warlock, the other actor in the scene was more uptight about it than she was. Here's something you guys should all know. In medicine, a shunt is a hole or small passage which moves or allows movement of fluid from one part of the body to another. The term may describe either congenital or acquired shunts and acquired shunts, sometimes referred to as intragenic shunts may be either biological or mechanical. We got to stop talking about shunts. Man. One last thing. One was shooting the infamous shunting seeds. Brian Hughes no will put a sign on the soundstage door that read Abandon all hope ye who? Yeah, yeah. It was it was sad. I kind of liked it. I didn't love it. Yeah. But definitely a singular movie. In what it does at the end, fairly unique and it's used. Yeah. It's all weirdness. Yeah, it's grotesque is the word I would use in the literal sense. It was kind of fun watching Tony, Glenn and Brian trying to talk about this movie before it. I'm giving nothing away because a surprising number of people had not seen it. Yeah, that that was just like, okay, cool. Enjoy. I also have to say that I'm beating my 10 minutes, but I love our new buzzer sound Eric. That has really made me feel very good about my decision. Doesn't hurt, man. still handsome? Yeah, that's because I know how to do this. Yes, I know. I know how to do it. So all right. Vanessa, yeah, I'm gonna put 10 minutes on the board. Okay, okay. Deep breath, deep breath. So, my view Yes. 1988 waxwork Sullivan 45 Let's go. Matching if you will, and exhibit in fear looks a little spooky, boys. I think we should do this. A place that appeals to your deepest and darkest fantasies. Scared your fascination with ghosts, monsters, and the many unearthly elements of the supernatural. This is kill enjoy. Wow the glass from nutty zombies from hell. yourself. You're like a closer look. Really? But whatever you do, don't step over the rope we thought you were too tired to join us. Alright, I'm here with that next cup of coffee, we'll talk about it. I want out of here Sarah. I'm serious. Can I scare? Well, I get a pretty woman in my illusion. No, no, I get a dork How did you kill him for? My children Do we still need this strong pictures welcomes you into a new dimension in waxwork. This has a rotten tomato score of 60% from critics and 46% from audience I was excited about it because I saw a poster for it on Amazon and it looked very thrilling so been on my list for a while and I was happy to finally get a chance to see it. It has a budget of 3.5 million box office of 808,000. Director writer Anthony Hickox waxwork was his first and then he went on to do a waxwork to Hellraiser. Three hell on earth, payback and Prince Valiant, among others, starring Zach Galligan as Mark who we would know from 77 other roles including Billy and Gremlins, and Gremlins too. He also is uncredited boiler room patron getting stabbed with Bostick and Hellraiser three. Deborah Forman plays Sarah she spent in 26 things including valley girl April Fool's Day and real genius. David Warner plays the waxwork man, he's been in 227 things including Tron, mouth of madness, as Dr. Ron and Star Trek six as Chancellor gorkon and lots and lots of British TV. And then we have John Rhys Davies, as a singular roll the werewolf we would know him from 267 things with another 12 currently in production, you would know him as Gimli and Lord of the Rings, I know him as Professor Maximilian Arturo and sliders. The story is glamorous la suburbs, a rich kid is basically fed up of being treated by a child by his mother, like a child by his mother, and like a loser by the girl he likes. He's got a lot of money, and he thinks he's really cool. But he seems to basically only be thought of as cool by his butler likes him very much, too. Then we cut to two girls walking down the street talking nonstop about guys in a very weird cutscene. And obviously, that's all women want to talk about? Because they talked about them for a long time. About a video game, you know. However, they then look over and see a giant banner that has this big, like billboard kind of thing. Like it's a giant banner hanging from it that says waxwork, which is apparently this lame pastime than everyone ever has done as a kid. Oh, yeah, another waxwork. Oh, that's really cool, guys. Like I haven't seen 100 of them. I was like, what? Who are you people? Where do you live? That wax working is like a thing y'all get into. A man suddenly appears out of thin air and invites them to a private showing that night at midnight before it's opened. One of the girls China is like super sassy and like, yeah, that sounds awesome. I'll be there. And it's sort of like she is being cool, but also making fun of him at the same time. He encourages her to go ahead and bring along six friends. So of course, at college school, definitely not high school, even though they all have lockers, and they hang out watching the football field at lunch. Really, really weird. She conveniently has five friends, three boys and two other girls who agree to go with her. So that seems obvious. As soon as they all sit down together. That night they arrive but it's so spooky that two of them peel off. When they get to the waxwork. They're introduced to the space by a very tall man and a very small man. They start to walk around and look at the exhibits and it's sort of like a gruesome monster and then a victim. So it's really mesmerizing, really interesting, really McCobb and they're all kind of entranced Tony, one of the guys drops his lighter and wanders into a werewolf exhibit. And lo and behold, he's in a real werewolf setting with a real werewolf becoming a werewolf. And then, of course, has a tragic ending. Much like Tony China sees this cool vampire scene where she wanders in because she thinks the dude is hot and wants to go touch the waxwork I guess, really, like weirded out by these people? We all the women are like, I got a thing that waxwork. I'm like, What are you doing? Anyway? So she ends up in a vampire scene and of course there's a big table in front of her and what should be upon that table, but a dish of meat that is very raw, and gravy that is just blood. And she is surrounded by vampires. So these people start to go missing and the our lead character mark is like, where's everybody they left me or pieces out and discovers the next day that of course his friends never got home. The rest of the film is all about him kind of trying to figure out what happened at the waxworks getting other characters involved to try and discover the mystery. And of course, the waxwork owner himself, who has a bigger scheme at large, involving maybe bringing characters back from the dead. The question was no from the other dimension. Anyway, this is an insane idea of a film. That just is you would never think like waxworks, but they're going to become real kind of an alternative dimensions and stuff. But it's actually super fun in a lot of places. However, it also misses in a lot of places. There's just strange, like moments where they keep leaving and coming back to the wax museum constantly. I'm like, what? I thought we're just gonna be here for the movie. It's in the title. But no, no, they gotta leave and come back a bunch. The opening is super brutal, where a bunch this guy's stuff gets stolen, and then they throw his head in the fireplace, and he burns. Which is great, because then the title is over his burning head. But it has nothing to do with the rest of the film, as far as I know. Like, what was that? It's got this like moments where it's really, really funny, depending on who's acting. So of course, the teen actors suck. And most of them are god awful. And you're like, Tony, just die, because I cannot handle you. But on the flip side, the other actors like John Rhys Davies, yes, is incredible. And he's such a great ham and he just owns the role and he's like, just becoming a wearable face, like, watch out. Here, like the kids like, Hey, me, I'm what's going on. I thought this was a party. And he's like, Behold, your beast is watching these two very different levels of acting happening. So the moments where you're getting these people who are just going full ham, it's so much fun. In the vampire scene, you come across the guy who they're eating, they've taken part of his leg. And this girl, the girl is basically in the story. It's her fiance in this fake world. And she's, he's like, love, come to me. Like, I must teach you how to fight off the vampires. And his leg is just missing. Like, he's giving her all these instructions, and he's just kind of going with it. But occasionally somebody will like run into the room and like fall on his leg. And he's like, oh, like, get him my love get in. It's just so well, like balanced. But then other moments just not at all, like just very obvious jokes. Jokes at the time, about like, things that are Dirty Harry jokes, like just random topical stuff that is really not aged well. So overall, I did really like it. I'm super glad I saw it. The actual creatures are really fucking good. Yeah, really good. But they obviously don't have enough budget to kill anyone. Because that all happens off screen. A little bit of trivia. The tagline is stop on by and give the afterlife a try. And more fun than a barrel of mummies. Kind of like three characters that were meant to be displayed in the waxwork but we're left off for legal reasons included Jason Vorhees, five children from Village of the Damned and the thing Oh, wow. Yes, they actually filmed it, but didn't like it, or did they fell anyways, they cut it out the leads of some dialogue. Yeah. So that that leads basically some of the dialogue to literally make no sense. So it's supposed to be Friday the 13th and the kids like whoa, like, I can't believe like that's here. They made that movie, man. And instead they swapped that with family opera. And so Whoa, that's a movie man. It's like, yeah, yes, it is. And the guy's like, wow, they made a movie out of that crazy. The writer director wrote this in three days. Wow. The missing kids poster for the flyers in the police HQ literally are the same missing posters from Lost Boys. Okay, cool. Kane Hodder had an uncredited role because he was doing stunts in this and he also plays Frankenstein's monster. The human flesh being eaten was rhubarb, watermelon and strawberries. It looks fucking gross. delish. This didn't get job. The vampire I will never know about the vampire. I'm gonna just go anyway. I'm nearly at the end flaunting the rules I know sorry, the basement vampire segment the crew said it was one of the bloodiest things they'd ever seen and most of it ended up being cut by the MPAA This is a bloody frickin thing to get inserted back in for home video. There is a unrated version. I think I saw the I think I saw the rated version. I'm not totally sure. Bob keen to the special effects. He spent 18 hours a day for eight weeks working on the monster so this film and it shows and he is a goddamn hero. And much like Kelly's trivia the house front was the same as Willard and which board the house is still there, but the owner has grown a hedge around it to make it less visible and discourage waxwork fans from looking for photo ops. Wonder how often waxwork fans are there? I do remember liking this movie quite a bit. I think I liked the second one even better. I don't think I've seen this one. It's fun. It's fun. I would say it's like it's got that house two vibes to it. But it's about half of the level of house too. But there's great moments. They're really fun. Anyway, I can't cut into your time. I don't want Eric Are you ready? For sure. I'm putting 10 minutes on the board. All righty, so we've got Nosferatu the van PR of sunshine Stevie Duncan first thing if that man so it was hot and autographed Oculus floss often mentioned last piece Oh, by Werner Herzog Okay. From 1979 This one has a good year. That movie. Movie God. So Rotten Tomatoes has this the critics at 95 and the crowd at 83 says hey, the budget was 1.4 million, which seems really low. The box office and listed. I don't know if this is accurate, but it was $2,874 like, whoa Lau. You're very rough. So directed by Werner Herzog movies you might know him from Fitzcarraldo, Grizzly Man, my best fiend, Queen of the Desert. The only he's the only feature film director to admire a film on every continent. He was invited to receive an honorary doctorate from Cambridge, which he refused because he believed he was not the man that could achieve that level of respectability. Wow. Fuckin hairs. I think I mentioned this on the other one I talked about in the book, but he never used the storyboards. And he writes his screenplays in an average of four to five days. Sir, he's, he calls every gray on gray head on his hair. Kinski. Kinski. He also wrote this one he wrote, writes most of his movies and of course also gets a Bram Stoker credit. I'm sure he wasn't involved in the screenplay. So the first actor to list of course has got to be Klaus Kinski. 137 credits, Paganini, vampire and Venice which I've talked about on the show. Mark of the tortoise, and he played Renfield in the 1970 Count Dracula with Christopher Oh my God stopped touching the situation over there. Excuse me. Oh my. He is notoriously impossible to work with. turned down the role of the German villain and Indiana Jones in the raid. Because of the Lost Ark although he wanted to do a movie with Spielberg, he thought the script was moronically shitty. Wow. Tell us how you really feel he chose to appear in the movie Vietnam instead. Nice because the salary was better. Used to act on one man productions on stage, which seemed a good idea considering no actors really ever wanted to work with. And always chose films based on how long you had to shoot them and how much you get paid. All right, we saw this, especially after some of the Herzog productions. Yeah. Actor another actor is ISABELI Genie, who is in possession, which is a tour de force performance by her subway sisters, and the last horror film in 1982. So I don't know what the hell else we're talking about after that. BRUNO ganz who's 127 credits including for the recent the house that Jack built the boys from Brazil. He was offered the leading role in Pretty Woman but turn that one down as the pretty woman know as the Richard gage cares roll. So the movie opens up with kinda is very disturbing shots of mummified corpses in a row, the real mummified corpses. We'll get back to that more in the notes, but it runs for like two minutes to the opening and movie. And that goes into a weird kinda nightmare dream sequence, which is a bunch of kittens playing. And I'm figuring this as a Hertzog film. So I'm suppose these are all going to be dead by the end of the movie. But thankfully, they never come back. The acting is of course incredibly dramatic. The music at times seems really romantic, at least at least for the beginning. Almost pushing the drama into like melodrama territory. So over the top, but fun little scene when Harper's go into Dracula's castle. When he reacts X says where he's going the reaction in the restaurant is almost comical it's gonna like or the in owner though, is worried about him. So she gives them a rosary and a big book about vampires. Thank you, candy. Of course, the movies. Gorgeous shot by York. Schmitt, red wine, red wine, Heart of Glass. They also did it for other things. He's got some great credits heard of glass was the other Hertzog film I talked about. Great, fun little scene where Harker is trying to hire a carriage and the guy standing next to his carriage brushing his horses, and the guy's like I have no carriage. Can I buy a horse? I have no horses. Luckily, Harker meet he goes, Hey, I can't get my chicken and starts to walk. And he does this beautiful walk through amazing waterfalls and forestry with a nice metal barrier on the side of the waterfall so he doesn't fall in Nice, very of the time period, I'm sure. Then of course, he eventually gets picked up by Dracula's character, which in this film actually is in Dracula. He has a character. Yeah. It's a little different. Klaus as Dracula is awesome. Yeah, he is in ants. And he's Nosferatu style. He looks like the creature from the Nosferatu film. The opening scene of him had is really reminiscent of Marlon Brando and Apocalypse Now, where it's kind of like almost all dark but his face and he's delivering his lines and you're like, Can I go now? That can be what I'd be thinking if I was Herzog there, but Harker there. Lots of homage is to the original, including that really cool little skeleton clock. Which longtime listeners will note that when Kelly asked what prop I take from any movie, who had been that little clock from the original Nosferatu here, right or the Renfield character is kind of annoying, with a giggle worked better in the silent movie version. giggles a lot to stop man. The boat when he travels is incredibly well done dreamlike and strange. Unfortunately, drone use has kind of ruined the drama of a helicopter shot. Because there's this big dramatic helicopter shot which you know, 1979 that's a that's a major expense and a really cool shot. Now it's a $500 drone flying around, which you know, is great for low budget stuff. The way the original one he carries his coffin. It's kind of dark and strange and creepy. And this one it almost looks a little silly because he's carrying in such a way that it's like balsa wood, I can tell the council introducing introduction to Lucy is wonderfully creepy. She handles it well with a fantastic speech. Obviously rented by Herzog about death as dark and grim. And her line of faith is the way we can believe things we know are not true. There around the table scene in this film is not a pleasant one at all. It's a group of people the entire city has been ravaged by the plague. Most of the cities are dead. There's coffins everywhere. They're sitting at this table kind of as a this is our last meal sort of with hundreds of rats, all around the bottom of the table all around the background. And it's just uncomfortable. The second half of the movie is Lucy being a total badass she takes over this film, the character is completely rewritten. Harker is gone. He has nothing to do with it. There is no she's pretty much it as far as going against Dracula in this film, and she does a great job. She's really really solid performer. So it is artsy. It's interesting. It's one of Herzog's, more herzogin movies. It's really, really grim. But notes on this one class can see spent approximately four hours per day and makeup because the ears when taken off would have to be destroyed. Oh, they had to rebuild those ears every time and going way against character. He was completely fine with this had a great relationship with the makeup artist and accepted it because he knew for this role he had to have a certain look. Wow. Okay, that's kind of sounding. While on the other hand, Werner Herzog in order to get the performances he want out of Klasky use the tricky found on a Greer the wrath of God where He would piss off Klaus so bad that he would go on a rampaging raging riot of anger and then it'd be too exhausted to do anything other than the kind of performance that hurts I wanted him to do. Oh, how did that happen? I just don't know. The stuff about the mummies at the beginning is kind of interesting. I would like to hear it. It's kind of sick. They're real. He discovered they existed a few years before. And it's naturally mummified bodies from an 1833 cholera epidemic. And he tooks them takes them out of the glass cases they're normally displayed in and put them in near as he could tell chronological age. Oh, my God. And then did he put them back? In the right box? Oh, oh, this one's a little small. Just shove it in here. In and the man handling the rats was so pissed at the way the rats were handled, but he quit the movie. Oh, did he leave there? Got a little got a little trouble in that. But let's see. The crew only had 16 people. Anything else? Oh, one other interesting thing is the English version of this is also original. They shot both German and English at the same time. Oh, that's interesting. So I like well see what the English is like just because and it's probably you know, knowing me slipped into subtitles. Nope. It's perfectly good because most of these people speak English as well. So it's worked really well. I am shocked that they had time to do that. That's one that's one luxury, whatever budget they were shooting. First time I saw this was in the 90s the Seattle Art Museum was showing it at a midnight show with Werner doing a q&a afterwards. And I had just started dating this really sweet girl who obviously had a huge crush on me because I said you want to go see a midnight showing of a German film and she was like I sure do. And then just like happens at every midnight showing about 14 minutes into the film. I'm sleep song logs loudly. She stayed and watched the entire movie. I was awakened by the applause at the end and then I was like, Alright, you're ready to go. You don't want to hang out for the q&a. I was like I am exhausted. Oh sounds like an awful day. Well all I can say to that well. I remember waking up a couple of times through it and trying to kind of shift position and everything look I am a I am not a night owl. I am a morning person unfortunately. So I don't know that my thoughts That's not a movie that's gonna keep you awake at night. Yeah, it's quite slow, not Rocky Horror Picture Show with musical numbers and stuff to get to go. And it's just like, whoa, Eric, I believe you have the next sub genre. Oh, I do. Yes, I do. So we're gonna go with the continuing with the Thanksgiving theme. We're going with one of the first families of horror, Texas Chainsaw Massacre movies. I love it. I couldn't love it more if it were my own idea. Only. Okay, so then that means we get towards the end of the show. We are at the point where I thank everybody for liking and sharing posts. I have a fun post to share phone somebody like badger. Oh, yeah. A great little story about the Raven, where he was a kid at a overnight thing number party number party camp thing. And they had a 16 millimeter projector with movies. And he's the only one said I can run one. And since nobody seemed relatively interested, he actually played the Raven over and over and over again, watching it. And found out there's an interesting bit of trivia from that that he likes is that Peter Lorre. And one of the scenes when they're all watched walking along, stumbles a tiny little bit. So all the attention is drawn to him. And when Roger Corman was editing, he went back and Laurie did it in every tape. So he had to do it. So badger, who is a background actor does a lot of extra work on stuff. La has adopted that. If he gets in the background of stuff, he'll try to do some kind of a little movement or something that'll pull your eye to him like he has in which films he did that in, but he's check out our YouTube page. It's a really long, great note describing what went on, and how he does his laurels owing people to notice him in the background, which I think is a fun idea. That's really smart. I love that. And I love that we've got people watching us on YouTube, or at least watching the listening audio versus watching those. Are their waveforms still? Or is it just a static image? That's just an image changes to the poster when the trailers are running? Okay, nice. Plus, you can if you're wondering what where a movie might find, I'll put that info while you're talking about whatever movie The where you can find it will be listed on the YouTube. That's so cool. Very nice. I appreciate you doing all that work, Eric. 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