211 FIGHTIN' FOR CHRICHTON!
The gang discusses the ramifications of suing a production company over a misleading trailer, then gets into their Michael Chrichton retrospective. Also discussed: M3GAN, Perfect Blue, The Fabelmans.
Oh, I'm sorry did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition such sites to show you strange aeons. Welcome strange aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That is Vanessa over there. Hello. I'm Kelly. Vanessa. I don't know if you know, but Eric hadn't brought to my attention that there is a lawsuit. I'm not sure against who, but about movie trailers. Yeah. The lady that was in the Bond film and the Marilyn Monroe movie. Ana de Armas. Yeah. And she's in the trailer. But her scene got cut from the film. Oh, so a bunch of a bunch of her fans went to see the movie. Oh, she wasn't in it. So now they're suing that company for false advertising. So funny. So I don't know how many people out there know this. But a lot of movies will purposely film additional scenes just for the trailers that they have no intention of using. And of course, while they're cutting the feature film, and haven't necessarily decided on exactly what's going to be in there or not, what's not there often already have the trailers put out. So they just aren't aware sometimes that those scenes aren't making it. I think that will be the best argument for the studio. Yeah, the trailer isn't done before the movie is finished. It's done. The movies probably depending on the effects or something like 30 40% done. Yeah. And they make a trailer. Yeah. I mean, those trailers come out years before that. So yeah, and often the movie is being edited up until the week before it's released. So I mean, if they win that lawsuit, that that means contractually, contractually, they have to like keep that you don't act or in more a selling point in as my guess. To house I would imagine. I mean, if they were to lose, which would seems hard to it seems like a hard thing to prove that it was an intentional No, we are trying to screw you over by a person in the movie. You only want to see this person, right? We paid Atlanta dharmas to be in this, we did not want to cut her Exactly, exactly. We had every bit that I mean, every film I've worked on has cut actors and scenes out of it. The entire opening for prospect and the entire ending was cut. Flowers, the guy who had a space mob, who never made it to the end, there were only five people in that movie. And one of them was just, I guess there's like eight people, but one of them did not make it. So interesting. I mean, I remember seeing I think it was the trailer for Rogue One when it came out. And there's a shot where she's on the tower, and all of a sudden the TIE Fighter is like right there next to her and, and that never shows up in the movie. And I always wondered, you know, what was that scene? What? I feel like that? How did they get to there? And why did they cut it? I feel like that and it was probably never going to be in the final. Why is like that just doesn't make sense. That's just it. Yeah. Oh, interesting. That did they did the route who said they did it? Where instead of cutting a scene or two they go through and they just find a whole storyline. It's like you want to cut this? Do you want to cut my movie down? 30 seconds for some stupid reason. Fine. I'm just gonna go through and I'm willing to cut this entire character and this entire storyline out. And that'll get five minutes out of my time to like, what is happening in this video? There's too much being good. Yeah. So it's, it's hard to figure out how I get big annoyed with it. And I guess I don't know, I've never asked for money back on a film that I've been to in a theater, largely because it's my impression and my opinion of the movie. Yeah. And that if I'm the only one leaving? Well, you know, maybe I'm the weirdo here as opposed to the 400 people that stayed in their seats, or whatever stupid reason, right? I just it's kind of like, I don't like it. I took the chance. I crapped out this time. I'm going to win on paying to see movies I like probably far more often than like going to see a film specifically because one actor may or may not have done that be in it. You know, you know, it's way worse than having that happen. People pupil out there sitting through an entire film to see your name and the credits, and then it not showing up. Yeah, that's bad. That is way worse. And when I first started working in film, that happened an awful lot then yeah, I still get mad when it happens. There's a there's a science fiction film that came out last year that I did not get in the car. It's for a couple of years ago and I was very, very mad. So do feel like spilling the name on that science fiction film. Um, it was called, I think it's called Little Fish. And I was just there for the pickup shoots that were in Seattle. But I don't think a single person who worked on the shoot in Seattle got their name and the credit Oh, wow, really bad. oversee, including the producer. I didn't see his name in there either. Well, you know, what's even worse than that? You hear the stories of you know, some up and coming actor who gets his family to go see the movie on the grand opening night, and then his scene has been cut. And he didn't know that until he's no longer in the movie. You imagine the guy who is Darth Vader? Who's just sitting there? Like, wait a minute, stop by voice at all. Like his, you know, his dad's like, I thought you were gonna be in this movie. Oh, I'm in it a lot. You just can't see or hear me? No. Keep an eye on it. Yeah, interesting. I think it opens up a real problem, though, in that if you can start. I mean, look, we are a lawsuit happy country. Society. But if you can start suing for that, what's to stop you from? After seeing a particularly shitty movie bringing a lawsuit against the company because the trailer made it look good? Yeah, yeah. And made by completely different people with completely different storyboards and a completely different intention. Different script like, man. I mean, it's all entertainment, guys. Like, yeah, in fact, I was just thinking, because I was about to say something stupid. Like, I want my money back. And Why didn't these guys just go? I want my money back from this movie. Yeah. They have been off they were offered that they said we'll give you all the I don't remember what it was like a mini packages shit. And they said no, no. This must be about principle or I'll give you a t shirt and a poster and all for this movie that you hate her autograph? Exactly. There you go sign pictures to here. And adonis's. Yeah, yeah. opinion on this. I mean, she's, she's like becoming something right. But she's still like, early in her career. Yeah. So I wonder if she filmed this before people realize she was a big deal. Like before, you know, having one of the best scenes in the last James Bond movie and stuff like that, right? Yeah. That was when I first noticed her. I thought that was kind of her breakout. Yeah, that and dating Ben Affleck. Oh, God who who doesn't deep and now I should want to. I saw a movie. Okay. A bit. You Vanessa might have seen it. Also. Did you see Megan? I did. Let's talk about Meghan. All right. I liked this movie. I thought it was very creepy. killer doll not really more like killer robot. I guess. i Yeah, the closer to Terminator. Yeah, it was. It was surprisingly effective. And man, what are you lean movie? It gets right into the doll about four minutes into the mice. Yeah, they just they know what is the selling point and they go straight for it. And no, it was a fun film. I was surprised. I thought it was going to be a little bit more stupid jump scary, but it was good. The only reason I bothered with it is I kept looking at that Rotten Tomato score and saying that can't be right. It's like that's impossible. And the critic said it at 89 or something. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna give this a try. And I was like That was surprisingly effective. Also PG 13 Horror Reishi but it's still I was like, oh, man, it's gonna suck you're gonna suck but it did not and even though like you know, there's things happening off screen you still feel it? Yes. That everything about that. I was like, Oh, God, no, that kid he's gonna get his and I know it off in the woods. I know it was so I mean, obviously it's an actress a young actor in the But did she have a mask on? Was that all CG burned? I look into it. I guess from what I saw was a combination. Okay, you know the way that works best if you do some rail and then enhance it with the stuff but it's meant to just be an Olsen twin right i mean skinny, not skinny. You know, big on this, but you know, Olsen twin exaggerated. differently. Yeah, I just have to say I was pleasantly surprised count me in the the 92% that liked it. i My favorite part of the film would probably be check offs. Bruce. Say that last check offs, Bruce? Oh, yes. Yes. That was yeah, if you introduce a Bruce and the first act you by God You bet. Add or do something with it on a payphone or do you look it'll make sense. Bruce, Bruce. Bruce. Steven. Bruce it is. Yeah. So I would say, you know, go out and check this one out. Absolutely. Well, I saw a movie that you had recently seen the fable men beat 208 We've all seen the film. Let's talk about this because I think I know Vanessa, you liked this much more than I did. Yeah, well, I thought it was gonna hate it. And especially because you didn't like it. I was like, Oh, this movie is gonna suck. I mean, it was super super watchable. I enjoyed it. I wouldn't say it's like, Oh, yeah. Steven Spielberg is best. I don't know if I'd say that. But I would say this man. There's a little spark that was lit in him that I have not seen in a hot minute. I was like, he cares. He cares what we're seeing cares about the shot choices. He cares about the characters. He cares about the story? Yeah, it was it was working for me, I got the advantage of you're complaining about how it's not really Steven Spielberg's life. So I'd let that go and just watched it as a kid falling in love with the movies. Yeah, it's sort of like a film that I think does this, but does it better cinema per DCO, which is fantastic film about falling in love with movies, but and I liked the stuff he liked. Less more. I like to stuff with the kid learning to operate the camera and the trains. And then getting a little older and all that stuff. The the fall down for me with the film was the family dynamics, the problem in the family was kind of like, you know, this is it's not rough enough to feel like a family falling apart. And it's not sweet enough to feel like, Oh, this is going to be good. For him in the long run or something. It felt like it. It felt like he didn't want to make a decision to make, which is understandable. But to make one or other of his parents look bad. Yeah, he didn't paint somebody a little bit. They didn't have to be mean or evil or bad. Just this fell apart. Because of that. They they touched on it, but it just and then he gets back and he meets the guy at the end. And I thought that was a fantastic scene. The best scene with John Ford. Yeah, was so good. That was amazing. I think probably what disappointed me in the film was I was like, oh my god, here's where it gets started. And then it was like, Oh, wow. Because I felt very much like that was a mid at two turning point. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you know his life story, which I don't really know anything about his life like I've, you know, when you're when you're first getting into films, and everyone's choosing their favorite directors, and everyone's already on Team Spielberg, and you're like, who else has the left? I want to be real film. I love Spielberg. But you know, when you're gonna invest a bunch of time and be like, This is who I'm hanging my hat on. And you see how many people already have I veered a little further away. So for me, I just didn't have all that. That understanding of what an expectation. So you saying hey, it, like diverged from this, I think benefited probably both of us in our viewings, because I was able to say, okay, so what is the story about if it's not really just, you know, the the canonization and chronicling of his life, all that stuff is the bad stuff, all the stuff that's like, ABCD, here's my trauma, let me err, it is not as fun but the coming around to understanding that he has a destiny and that is art and that art is going to be painful for him. That felt like a three act structure to me, like it felt like there was a story in introducing a love trying to understand what that love is rejecting it, owning it, trying to figure out what it meant and how he could use it with the people around him in his life. And then in the end, pursuing a career and and knowing that it would probably be really awful at times. So like Ford was sort of the epilogue as opposed to a third actor. Yeah, exactly. That's what it felt like, to me. It's like, oh, hey, we get to see a little sneak peek of this thing. But like, that's not really the story. I can I can buy all of that. I guess what? And I didn't have a problem with this diverting from his life. You know, none of that bothered me. But I felt like there needed to be a bigger payoff, then if if what we're telling is the story of this young kid who's following his dreams, then the natural ending of that movie is starting his first big movie or something like that. I think they were trying to do that with the high school. I think that's what they were trying to do is like show him you know, the last day of senior year showing In that movie, and having it come to fruition, like all that skill and all that stuff he learned, presenting, you know, complex relationships with the people who saw him in in different light. That's kind of where I was feeling that, but I think you're right. I think it could have used a bigger finale. Potentially. Yeah, that's, that's really what I needed. I loved the way that it ended. But I didn't want that to be the end. Right? Yeah. When you're like, Alright, you've met Ford. Yeah. And, and the very clever little gimmick at the very end after the movie takes the advice that Ford had given him. Yeah, I thought that was, you know, probably the only real laugh I got through the film. And I guess I was hoping for it to be a little more humorous. Cuz Spielberg is a funny guy and everything to put a to put a different spin on this. I then watched Jaws again this weekend. My favorite movie, and it's just such a brilliant movie. It's too long. But you don't care about any of the scenes taking too long. The music is a little weird, and spots and all of that. It all just works. And I think there's a there's a hunger in the director that made jaws that is no longer there. And yes, the director that made the fable, yes, but fear that fear of failing it not being able to make it work. So yeah. And getting a lot of, you know, people were coming down on him at the time, right for being like, you've ruined art films, you've just made these blockbusters everybody, you know, you're just making these, you know, selling selling movies as these big things instead of his art. And now we're realizing of course that yes, 100% it was art. Just because it made money doesn't mean it wasn't, would you? How good was this movie? Was this a fantastic movie for you guys? Was it an okay, movie? It was good. It was a good movie with some great scenes. Yeah, I think there were some great scenes for sure. It's not one I feel. I would watch that impair DCO. Again, long before I watched this ago, would I? Yeah, I think I'm in the same camp. Like, I thought it was gonna suck, because I have not enjoyed very many Spielberg movies in recent years. And it was like, Oh, hey, this is totally watchable. There were moments where like, I felt like, you know, my heart was aching a little. But it's a pretty rough view. Because it's so personal. I felt like, Man, this person's relationship with his father and his mother. And like this little instances of the monkey and the uncle. And these are all just like traumatic, and they don't make my life better by witnessing them. So I'm like, Okay, I've seen it. And I'm glad we had this therapy session where you told me all the rest. But I don't think I need to, like, hang out with you again, while you're drinking for like a few years. A monkey was weird. That was, that was a weird, kind of offshoot plot that I didn't think needed to be there. There was a lot of details throughout the film that I was like, This is too specific. There was just these moment like heard the mom playing piano with a long fingernails, right? That is way detail specific thing that's like this is something real that you're focusing on, right? Yeah, probably. It doesn't help the story at all. It doesn't make anything other than just give it a little more life. But what's the purpose of that life? Like we don't know more about her because of that. She's not a vain person. Well, I'm glad to hear that, that you guys liked it, but didn't love it. Because there are other film podcasts, whose opinions I respect very much. These guys were saying I cried during this movie. This was such a brilliant piece of filmmaking. And I was like, Man, am I just that cynical now that my favorite filmmaker made a movie that I was not interested in? And these guys are just like, this is the best thing he's ever done. This is not this is not about him. This is about them and their daddy issues. I promise you because I was sat there watching it. And I was like, huh, and like reading, reading people's reactions as like, you have something in here. Whether it's your mom or your dad, there's something you're relating to that I don't don't have. So I cannot feel the things they were feeling which is probably why all of us from the sound of it related to those Movie Moments. Yeah, like when he's in the theater for the first time watching The Great Train Robbery or whatever. It was the greatest show on earth on Earth. Hadn't seen that one God may have to watch this. And that moments, those moments I know all of us as much as we love movie have those moments? Yeah. So I enjoyed those parts a lot. Yeah. And I think it's just I don't know, I think that would have been seeing you know him as a kid trying to figure out how to make these shots of like people getting shot or stepping off. Yes, I loved all of that was so good. Yeah. Or like, you know, showing it in front of your friends or family and being nervous, and then meeting your hero For me that was so true. It's like you meet your hero and it's the worst and they just like say some awful shit to you. But you still are like put I met you like, those are the things that stuck out to me. I cannot relate to the family dynamic in any any way. Well, cool. Well, what did you What was your movie? I watched one that I had heard nothing about whatsoever. I'll bet you have though Vanessa. Until somebody posted on Facebook about I'm gonna I'm gonna order this disk Ghostwatch Oh, wait, let me to British show. I saw that like a few times. To shit. Like have you seen this? Yes. Oh, man. I thought it was terrible to the end and the end was so everything was wrapped up and wrapped up so nicely. I've gone fuck I enjoyed the shit out of this. Wow. It was so real. Yeah, that first hour or so is almost boring. Boring. I'd say it's more than almost boring. But I also I also love British shows. Like I'd like holy shit. It's Lister has everyone who watched it on TV said it's fucking mysteries either that why is he wearing Chicago Bears coat? Is he gonna come by my house? Oh my God. Is he in our neighborhood? Let's look. That's exactly right. Like it's so real. Having lived in England these weird details of like, these low middle low income houses with the you know, gas metal furnace heaters, and these crappy little rooms and stuff. It's so real that by the time you get to the end, you're just like, open is way too open even asked to shoot that thing. Oh, God. It looks like they're like cramped in hallways. Cameras like we're here. Oh, man. Oh, glad you liked it. Yeah, quite a bit. I thought it was like what? It's weird with this the lead lady. So late night, early. 90s. She has shoulder pads in her t shirt. Big ones, man. It's like oh, that's why it looks weird. But yeah, overall, I really enjoyed it. But it also goes a little bit to your aesthetic with it's kind of that found footage. Yeah, dynamic, even though it's, you know, what, 878 years before? Which really exploded that. But it's not technically found footage. But it has that aesthetic. I guess. I probably call it mockumentary more than Yeah, found footage. I you know, I think it was probably hyped up way too much for me. So when I did finally see it, which was only I don't know, six or eight years ago. Oh, sure. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't love it. I had no I'd seen it on like one list and was like, I don't know what the fuck is this? Put it in? Yep, that was same for me. I think it was the producer. That guy was talking about a detoxifier to think he posted said, oh my goodness, I can't believe this is finally out. It's a nice DVD set. It's got the movie, bunch of other stuff, the script, you know, a little small book form that fits in the box set and then like a booklet about the movie and it's released as like, Okay, this is at least really nice. Oh, that's so fun. So that was what caused you to watch it was hearing his interview and the way he commented on it and then I read a little bit about it on Oh, this I mean, just a little bit like okay, this kind of sounds war the world asked Yes. Upon its release. And so I was like, check it out. Okay, I saw another movie. I know that you have seen this Vanessa. I don't know if you've seen this, Eric, but I would like both of your opinions on why I should love the movie pearl. Oh, I'm sorry. I've seen don't don't think I liked it. Oh, I thought you loved it. Oh, no, no. Oh, okay. I did not. I thought it was I thought it was fine. I thought it was I liked x more. I thought it was it fits into whatever weird, weird world he's building in x. And there were moments I thought were amazing, largely just because of performance. But the movie it's I don't know. It was it was it was good. But it didn't end up on any of our no but it did end up on many people's views including Mick Garis put it at like, because number one horror film for the year. And so that was weird. Say I guess I better watch this movie even though I didn't much love X. Yeah, I liked the x more than Perl. Yeah, I thought X was way more interesting because I thought it was such a good conversation about ageism. Yes. And that was the whole point like Perl. I was like, great. I get to watch a weird musical fantasy with no intended ending. No idea where it's going other than just hey, Wouldn't it be funny if like this happened? Wouldn't it be weird if this happened? What does she like fuck this guy or The Scarecrow or whatever, whoa, crazy. What about the alligator? Where's what's the history of that? It was like, I don't care. I just don't care. You know, we should call Tony Kenya, because I know he really, really liked well, and I can see why it feels very much like a, you know, early to mid 70s, EMD or vellum, which is what I think it's aiming for. It's got kind of a Texas Chainsaw. Yeah, field or even the original or the old Pearl pearl. Because Pearl is like, but also Wizard of Oz. Well, yes, that's definitely what they're, what they're referencing there. But the feel of the family and all that is a is a sawyer family kind of feel. And I think that a lot of fans are really keying in on that for why they love it. Sure, but for me, it was the end scene. In fact, the end shot I thought was fantastic. But I was like, man, too little too late. I wanted this somewhere in the middle. And then to see you know, how she gets out of it or something like that. I did like her speech at the table. But that was neat. Yeah. Where they never cut from her the whole time. Yeah. And I think she's a great actor. Yeah. But little dynamics of her in the guy when they were in the theater. That was good. There's there's stuff to like about it. But I I've stretched to like some of his films in the past. So he's dynamic doesn't automatically hit me. Like I know it does some people. So that probably makes a difference, too. Yeah, I thought x was the first of his films that I like, Okay, I actually really kinda like this one. That was the first one that actually had. I don't know, just anything that kept me interested through the entire movie. I feel like his movies are a really, really slow burn. And then a great ending. Yeah, yeah, a lot of great endings. So I curious to see what he does with it. Because I know he's gonna do more. Yeah, he's got one more set in the 80s. I think. I think so. Yeah. Like she goes to Hollywood or whatever. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know. I'll watch it and complain about it on this show, I'm sure. Perfect. Well, I've been slowly but surely working my way through and catching up on His Dark Materials. Have you guys seen this show? Not the movie and not the I think there was a previous mini series maybe. But this one's like the Amazon one. No, no. It's based on the book, The Philip Pullman has started materials, books, and I've been watching it with like this group of friends that meet up once a week. And it's so hard to watch shows with people who are not movie people who don't understand the language of cinema, and they're like, oh, such and such it's gonna happen or bla bla, I don't understand this. And they're reading things totally wrong. And you're like, I'm going to murder you all. Not what the music is telling us is going to happen. Please stop. But to make it worse, there's a lot of really good acting in this. It's been so long since I've read the books. I really don't remember where it's going at this point. There's a lot of incredible actors. There's a woman who plays the mom. I can't remember the actresses name but miss Coulter and she's off the hook. Incredible. Like I don't know if I've seen as good acting in my entire life. It's got the guy who plays Moriarty and Sherlock he's in it for a little bit. They've got unfortunately, Lin Manuel Miranda who's sucks. cannot act for this to save his life. Shouting at camera from all angles. Oh, you're gonna do a good close up. I'm gonna make my face real big like and they keep using him. He died and then he came back because you're like, Oh my God. I don't care. Please kill him. We don't need to see him anymore. I know he's famous stop. But unfortunately, the lead actress this young girl unwatchable, absolutely unwatchable. She's actually the girl from Logan. So you think she's really good. But I want to punch her in the face. Every episode directing problems character problems, because she was great. And Logan? Sure. Yeah, I think there's too much time and energy and there's too much focus on her and any ability she lacks for acting is right front and center. And on top of that, she's aging quick, quicker than the character. So she's playing age down. So she's probably 1314 And she's playing like a 10 year old. So she's like screaming all the time and yelling and having little hissy fits and like, you know, why isn't this and why isn't that and then she like bounces and like bails on her friends and you're like fuck you girl. It's just really hard to look at her and be like, that's a reasonable thing for you to do and for me to still like you. So it's been a tough watch because I just I just want to kill her. Let's go back to these clearly idiot friends of yours. People I love smug red but But hearing snooty Vanessa talk about how nobody gets the language of cinema. Why? Why do you? Why do you put yourself through this if you I want to be social. I'm trying really hard guys. I'm not going for this particular it's not about the show. We watched we watched all of the new Lord of the Rings thing together too. And that was fine. Because, you know, watching their reactions was almost fun, because you're like, wow, okay, this is what people think would happen if you don't watch as much crap as I do. Cool. This is like their fun, genuine interesting reactions to these things like, oh, so and so's evil. Oh, so and so? No, didn't you read the this one poem? It should be this okay. I'm like, great, I can enjoy your guys's enjoyment it for the lack of my ability to enjoy that. But this is like, I can't enjoy this. And every time they're like, she's amazing. I'm like, so wrong. But I've been very good at keeping my mouth shut. And I hope not. None of them ever listened to this podcast. They're really cool, interesting people. I know what you said off the air is. It's just so hard to watch this kind of stuff consistently. Like if you watch an entire series with your mom. And they're just the whole way saying this. And you're like, Oh my God, why did I make this decision? That's what it feels like. Speaking of my Mom, Happy Birthday, Mom. birthday, happy birthday. Oh my gosh, I hope I hope she has a wonderful year ahead and got to eat some really, truly bad few things on the day. All righty, so we haven't talked a lot about it. But I'm not the biggest anime fan has been known and the few times it's come up. Yeah. Holy shit. I saw a fantastic one. On shutter called Perfect Blue. Oh my god. I've heard it's so good. It is phenomenal. And this is ancient. Oh, yeah. That's like late 90s. I think early 90s. Maybe that was okay. It holds up. It holds up as a story. It's just a story of a pop performer. Yes. Probably early 90s Pop performer who quits to become an actor, and when she goes through, but that ain't all that's going on. There's weird. Ghosting of her she seems to be is it happening for real? Is what she's going through happening. Is it not happening? And it has played so well. It has done so well. Her moments of doing something than falling asleep and you're waking up? Is this the right world? Or is Was that the right world? An incredible film of all the movies, they keep remaking enemies into live action. And usually screwing it up. So maybe they have tried to do this. And it's so bad. Nobody talks about it. This would make a great translation into a live action film. Yeah. I had a roommate back then who? Who brought the video cassette when he moved in and he was like, you know this movie and I was like, Nah, I don't watch cartoons. He was like, well, you'll watch this and I wouldn't have but he actually sat down and watched it with me and I was like, I was damn good. Yeah. Pretty I'd imagined surprisingly graphic to at that time, like oh my god they're doing Oh, Jesus. Listen that roommate I'm sure the only reason that he had it was because there were naked cartoon women boobies in it. Oh sir. The best kind. And some pretty racy sex. Yeah, some gnarly stuff going on. It is definitely an R rated thing. It's on shutter for a reason. Right? Well, okay, how about we take a little break and then when we come back, we are fighting for Creighton. Oh god we thought we could combine different dinosaurs DNA, but it all went horribly wrong. We were surrounded by chaos mutations, the loss of rupture crushing winds combined with ripping a raptor. We fell back to the trike dozers when chaos crasher direct. He turned our plans upside down, but for the most part you chaos figures and vehicles sold separately. Hello. Let's see who's called the strange aeons radio hotline. Hi, this is Mike the Bronco just wanted to call to say congratulations to you guys on hitting your milestone and 200 episodes. Vanessa, congratulations for getting married. It's great. Also for one Watching photos, because I've watched it and I'm making some loss, watch it. Just want to say I really enjoy the show. I can every week I've been listening to you guys since it was dead again. And it's something I look forward to during the week. So I hope you guys don't lose your enthusiasm for it and keep doing it. And also, thanks for the big holiday card. It's Kelly smiling, which is great. Well, thank you so much and keep doing what you're doing. That's nice. MICHAEL The Bronzo is one of the guys on the Lovecraft ezine and he and I trade messages pretty regularly. He in fact just tuned me into the season two trailer for Yellowjackets, which looks really cool. Cool. Yeah. And he's the only other human being on Earth who's watched for hours. To know that he made I believe Peter rollick. Watch it. Rowlett did not love it. It's so weird. You just have to know it's not going to be worth watching. And then you'll maybe get some. Thanks for calling in Michael. If you'd like to call the strange aeons radio hotline, dial 253-237-4266. And we're back. Alright guys, this was my sub genre pick. The idea being that Michael Creighton has 66 credits or something as a writer director, and we could choose any one of those that kind of fits into our general genre stuff. Sci Fi or whatever. So with that in mind, I picked a pretty cool movie called looker. You probably think I'm beautiful Dr. Roberts, but I'm not. My nose is point two millimeters too narrow. And my cheekbones are point four millimeters too high. I wanted to television commercials. You want to start and look. I did surgery on several girls a few months back. Commercial actresses and obesity suicides. Do what's going on? This is more than commercials to killing all the girls that are perfect. DMI measured some girls for possible surgery. We were conducting an experiment. Hi, I'm Cindy. I'm the perfect female time 18 to 25. Here you see a typical computer model being made. Hi, I'm Cindy. I'm the perfect female time 18 to 25 What have you got me mixed up. I have a right to know if somebody's trying to kill me. 1981 Have you guys seen this one? Now? If I did, it was like, way back in the napkin. Let me just my glasses because I'm an old man. You go over your mic there. It has a budget of $8 million and a box office of $3 million. Rotten Tomatoes critics have it at 32% and the audience has it at 41% I think that is really rough because this is a fun little movie Written and directed by Michael Creighton, author of 26 books that have sold over 200 million copies and over a dozen which have been adapted to film so far. He received an MD from Harvard Medical School in 69, but chose to focus on writing instead. He has a ton of writing and directing credits including Westworld Jurassic Park and is the creator of the series er. He died in 2008 at the age of 66 from cancer also, he was six foot nine inches tall. Why? Oh, that's a tall man. No wonder he's kind of long and lanky. Looking in the photos. I see him he's a tall guy. This is starring Albert Finney who has 65 credits including the wolf in which I spoke about on this show. Miller's Crossing Skyfall it also stars James Coburn who has 173 credits including Hellas for heroes, our man Flint and cat blue. And Susan de who has to do on credits mostly TV. She was in first love Echo Park and 96 episodes of The Partridge Family as Laura partridge. Also four episodes of something called Partridge Family 2200 ad, which I found on crackle. All six episodes of this Jetsons rip off is there for your viewing pleasure. Oh no but it's the like real life or is it a cartoon and it's got all the same sound effects in the car it's awful they have a robot dog. Oh shit. I forgot to give myself 10 minutes I'll give myself eight minutes. Sounds confident I am. Okay the story this movie opens with a smoking hot supermodel who just happens to be dating Michael Creighton at the time. She's wandering through her amazing apartment which is in a high rise in downtown Los Angeles and man, she is stunning getting ready for some events. So she's just in bra and panties. And she has an adorable Yorkie with her. But then things get weird. She hears a knock at the door and opens it. They we see a strange flash. And then she looks down the hallway and no one is there. But her dog is going crazy in the apartment. She comes back into her bedroom, there's another strange flash and she hears the dog is barking. He has somehow trapped himself inside a closet. So she lets him out. What are you doing in there, buddy? When she turns around, though, there is a open gun case on her bed. So she's starting to get a little weirded out now. She starts wandering through the apartment, and we get these weird strange flashes to let us know this is not just a editing choice or anything. There's something happening. And pretty quickly she is suddenly wrapped in the curtains of her big huge balcony door and then she's falling to her death. Very strange. So then we meet Dr. Larry Roberts, who is Albert Finney. And another beautiful model Susan day. He's a plastic surgeon and she's a model that he has worked on before and she's they're asking him to do more cosmetic changes on her that would result in like millimeters of difference if that. And he's kind of weirded out by it. He's you know, what's the problem here? No, I'm not going to do that. And she's like, Look, if you're not going to do that I could find someone who will. So he, he sends her away. But he finds out that there are all these women who are trying to get closer and closer to to perfection, so that they can be cast and television, movies, commercials, all of that. And he has worked on all of these women. So they're all gorgeous model. Every time you see a picture of these women, you're just like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. And they are all like, I think I could use my nose moved like two millimeters to the right. And he's like, What, are you even getting these numbers? What Why would you even think this is something you should do. So then he starts kind of looking into it. And he starts finding out that a few of these models have died under mysterious circumstances. And since they're linked to him, the detectives are starting to talk to him about it. And he does, he starts doing his own investigating, he finds out that they are also linked to a specific advertising research firm. And then another one of his patients shows up, but she wants him to reverse everything that he's done to her. She wants to look like she did before she came back in. Because she's heard of these women dying. And she thinks that they were killed by a particular man, and that he's after her now. And Fini, Larry, is, is like, you know, I don't think that's really what's going on. All these deaths seem to be accidents and all that stuff. She rushes off in a panic. And he starts to do some more digging. And he starts thinking, You know what, there might be something to her story. And he's he's thinking all of this in the course of hours, she has taken off, and he's decided, You know what, I'm going to go to her apartment and tell her maybe she's onto something. He gets to her apartment just in time to see her leap to her death. But then he sees a strange man standing on her balcony. So he rushes up there can't find the guy, all that stuff. All of his research and snooping into this has led the police detectives to be very sure it's him because he's just happens to be at the crime scene every time. Meanwhile, he's ingratiating himself into this research facility. And he's found out that there are the facility a super high tech and they're digitally scanning these women and creating 3d computer generated models. The ideas that are given these incredibly lucrative contracts basically ensuring a paycheck for life, which might not be much of a paycheck if you only live a couple of weeks after they are done this. So that's what's going on he starts thinking that they're killing these women because they have captured their computer generated likenesses and now they won't have to pay them. It's in the contract that you know, they also have use of this image that they've created perpetually so the title has is a very clever double meaning obviously a Looker is a slang for good looking woman. But in this movie, Looker is also an acronym for light ocular oriented kinetic emotive responses, which is this special light gun that the killer is using, it flashes and kind of freezes time in the in the brain of the victim. They don't feel like any time has passed, but we see the effects because at one point, the the killer is trying to stop Feeny in his beach house and he, he, he starts seeing these flashes. And it's just a flash, but the clock will be like two hours different behind him. And the beach, which was packed is suddenly got like four people on it while he's looking out at it. And he goes to pour himself a glass of water, and there's a flash and then all of a sudden the sink is full and he's flooded the entire floor of the kitchen and all this shit. So it starts getting pretty groovy and sci fi stuff. I really had a good time with it. There's some good action scenes, there's a really interesting climax that takes place on the commercial studio sets of this research thing. It seems it probably seemed very ridiculous in 1981. But it is basically what Lucasfilm is doing with the Mandalorian. You know, the, the volume I think is what they call that digital set. Because you see that as they're being chased through all these sets. And some of them you realize, oh, this is gonna get bigger because like one of the sets behind them is the White House. Oh, and stuff like that. So I thought it was a lot of fun. Got a little trivia here. This is the first ever film to create 3d shading with a computer. It produced the first ever CGI human character. With Susan day. The movie achieved this feat before Disney's Tron. Oh, the website film site, said her digital her digitization was visualized by a computer generated simulation of her body being scanned. Notably, the first use of Shadid 3d CGI in a feature film polygonal models obtained by digitizing a human body were used to render the effects. So what that means is, even though they they did this, it's still very similar to like, like Escape from New York when you see the outlines of the buildings and you realize looks like a computer, but it's actually animated. Oh, great. And once said of this film, television commercials are already manipulative. That's exactly what they're supposed to do. I don't consider that kind of manipulation evil. But what would happen if someone with a bit more scientific knowledge began tampering with commercials? I think we're kind of seeing that actually now. And then Creighton started thinking about the subject of the film in 1975. He says he went to a Los Angeles computer company to find out how they could create copies and commercials without looking too ridiculous. And discovered a company in Texas was already doing it. It was called tomography. So like a lot of his movies, he came up with a idea that seemed a little far fetched, and it is absolutely come true. Yeah. Look at that. I beat the timer. Do I let it go? Do I? Yeah, that's interesting. I reminds me a lot of like future world and the way that they were almost inventing Tech with the film, which was about inventing tech, yes, this idea of, yes, kind of, you know, snake eating its own tail, but in a really cool way. I wonder what Creighton would think of some of the tech we've got right now. Well, he always said that he didn't trust CGI, because it would be used for this kind of stuff. And then of course, Jurassic Park comes around, right? Use the CGI to make his book. Okay, so you want to go next? Yeah, absolutely. So um, I chose the movie sphere from 1998. Warner Brothers presents the movie event of the year. We think there's an unknown life form on this spacecraft. 1000 feet below. You're saying the spacecraft crashed 300 years ago in the most alien environment on Earth. A new kind of terror, reflecting everything but us is taking shape. From Author Michael Gray. It's human. This is coming from the spirit. And Americans may ship and have an American spaceship is 300 years old. This is a first you're now online with an alien intelligence. Why don't you go inside? What's inside the sphere? made you angry? Dustin Hoffman? Sharon Stone. Raising Samuel L Jackson. You're free to die in Nome. I'm not gonna die here. This fear of Barry Levinson. Phil ready PG 13 I chose poorly. Oh no, I don't think I've heard of this. You haven't heard of sphere. Oh, Remember sphere? sphere? Yes, yes. Based off of the book. I chose this because I felt like I was a little bit in a corner I have a cold movie night friends because I only have so many friends and you guys are two of them and they are some of them. And they the next movie night is going to be a Michael Hart night. So I took those films off the table because I don't want to watch them and like two weeks from now, what a coincidence. I know. So. So I chose the movie, a movie that was not done, chosen by you guys, nor was it chosen by them and I ended up with sphere. So Rotten Tomatoes score of 11% from critics. Audience disagrees heavily with a 38% I think that's very generous audience. That's some alcohol right there. Budget of 37 or sorry 73 between 73 and 80 million box office of 73 point 4 million. This did not do great. Directed by Barry Levinson. He has 42 credits to his name including some incredible films like the natural Rain Man toys, disclosure, Wag the Dog Bay, and dope sick. If you don't actually two episodes of written by, of course based on the 1987 Michael Crichton book was 50 writing credits in film, including and also six producing credits and nine directing credits. We would know him from all the things Kelly already talked about, and Twister. Kurt Wimmer adapted it into the screenplay. He has 17 credits to his name, including The Thomas Crown Affair ultraviolet equilibrium assault, and unfortunately the remakes of Total Recall Point Break and children on the corn. And it was the screenplay itself was done by Stephen Hauser, who this is his only writing credits. Other credits of his include playing the microphone tester on the film disclosure. I don't know why this man was allowed to write anything. His credits are all like pa work because I don't I do not understand. Starring an all star cast of Dustin Hoffman in the lead. He has 85 credits he is the psychologist. He was in the graduate Midnight Cowboy Tootsie and Rain Man, Sharon Stone as the female hot crazy biologist Lady 149 credits including of course Basic, Basic Instinct, the quick and the dead casino and one episode of TJ hooker. She also played the uncredited Diet Coke model in Diet Coke caffeine free the ad. Samuel L. Jackson, she played some a lot of weird model credits. Samuel L Jackson. Isn't this as the insane smart nerd mathematician. He's been in 196 Six things including dream blind man and exercise three hold up man and coming to America. Mr. Groovy daddy and do the right thing. And Arnold the nerd tech in Jurassic Park, he really likes to play very different roles until a certain point in time, lives Schreiber in the height of his power or pre height 95 credits including Sabretooth and Wolverine and cotton weary and scream. Queen Latif is in this as a bit role. She plays a maintenance maybe maintenance security woman, very strange. The story is Dustin Hoffman is the psychologist who's trained in helping survivors of air disasters, specifically, and he's being flown by a helicopter to a crash site. When talking to the pilot, he learns that actually a bunch of different people in different expertises have been flown out here. And he's like, Oh, I wonder what they're going to do with a psychologist. He's like, Well, it's a plane crash. I have a very specific thing I'm here for, of course, he lands and no, that was all a lie. Instead, a giant aliens ship has been found at the bottom of the ocean. When he had been previously working with the president, he had been tasked years earlier with coming up with this emergency strategy for first contact. He wanted a paycheck very badly. So he made a bunch of shit up, including suggestions for team members. They now use this as a playbook. And all the team members who suggested are hired and are there, including a hot lady who he had told, slept with, and did not tell he was married to and she hates his guts. So he made some interesting choices. But now they're there. They're stuck and he has a mission to do. And he's just kind of hoping that this team makes any kind of sense whatsoever. They're taking deep, deep, deep underwater to this sort of base that's built next to the crash site, where they're going to be living there for a little while while they check things out. It seems like maybe the ship has some activity in it. So they believe that there may still be life inside. They cannot leave by the way, unless they are using this special pod in In an emergency, and they keep talking about the wearing of the bends, don't worry, does not come into play does not matter about the buttons, it is Chekhov's The bends. So but not because it doesn't come back. He tries to act like a psychiatrist to the team and things are already starting to fall apart. Of course, Beth hates him. He basically ended up gaslighting her about the whole situation, so he never even apologized. The mathematician and the astrophysicist, who are two incredibly smart dudes are having a lot of who's smarter Dick measuring contest. And it just seems like just a lot of tension happening. But even as they're making their way down to the base, once they get to the ship and get to go inside, they discover that actually, there is no aliens at all. In fact, it seems that there were humans from the not too distant future, who had traveled through space in the strange ship. And they had crashed the ship into the water 300 years ago, because there's a bunch of coral growing around it. So this is really time travelers not aliens. The way that the ship is being piloted is by this weird sphere in the center of it. Of course, they run out of time and air before they have to run back out of the ship. When they get to the main base, they discover there's a giant storm coming. So they have got to go back to the surface, they're basically fired because they're like, there's no first contact, you guys were pointless to get out of here. However, one of the scientists, Harry decides, you know what this sphere is too interesting. And it seems like it's somehow sentient. So he wants to make first contact with it and goes back, Harry basically goes into the sphere, and then comes out and is unconscious. Weird things start happening at that point, it is too late for them to make it back up to the surface before the swarm. So they're kind of on their own. He eventually wakes up does not want to tell anyone what he saw or what's going on. The computer starts to talk to them with the SPHERES voice maybe there's giant jellyfish that started attacking their giant octopus that started attacking, there are eels that started attacking each person that seems like they're slowly going insane. And no one is sure who has and has not gone inside as the sphere. So thoughts, the ideas in this film are super strong. Your description makes it sound fairly interesting. It sure does, doesn't it? I really wish it was. Instead, it is super fucking boring. They have no idea how to deal with the moments of drama, if every moment feels so wasted. It's like, Here's the setup for a home run. And they just with it. Every time. The Dream sections of this there's this weird sort of interplay between dream and reality and what isn't isn't happening. And it's just confusing and kind of feels stupid. There's all these big moments where they're like, Oh, my God, this guy is holding a book and he drops the book. And then you look in the books everywhere. And the books are at all and the one book he's reading is all in the cupboards and they're falling out of everywhere. And you're like, Whoa, but then it's like nothing. It doesn't become anything. It's like okay, well, why don't we spend another minute on that. And when they're escaping, there's this thing that's supposed to be happening between the reality and their minds, and it just does not line up. It feels really stupid. I recommend watching the Abyss instead, or Leviathan or deep star six, or even contacts. Those are all better movies. This feels like a rip off of the Abyss even though it was made or written before. So trivia tagline from the best selling the best selling author of Jurassic Park and the last world also a Barry Levinson film. Really good, really good. Um, a lot of scenes were improvised, including Teddy admitting the Harry that he made the whole thing up. So that's really interesting. Some of the best parts of this entire thing seem to be kind of BS. Um, the jellyfish attack sequence was used with a combination of puppets computer graphics, imagery and footage a real jellyfish at it from a nearby aquarium. Sam Jackson worked on this film at the same time he was doing Jackie Brown. He was doing one on the weekends when during the week, the film was rushed to be completed by Christmas and Dustin Dustin Hoffman expressed some disappointment with the film he felt like it was not ready to be released. He is not wrong. Joseph Han the DJ the rock band Linkin Park design the C suite SeeSnake. Through concept art, I don't understand that suns. But that was in the trivia. Barry Levinson considered having Queen Latifah and Huey Lewis and news recorded do it for them. And last but not least, the ending had to be reshot because the test audience could not believe that the characters could survive without spending weeks and decompression because they spend so much time setting up the bends. I have read this book. Okay. And I love it. Yes, it is a really cool story that I watched this movie. And I was like, both Dustin Hoffman and Sharon Stone had way too much input on their characters. Yeah, because the Sharon Stone character is not like that in the book at all. In fact, she ends up being the bad guy. She's just like, it sucks, because they're like, Oh, you had a moment of Depression years earlier. So you're go crazy, hot mess of a woman. And that's all they do the whole time. They're like, Yeah, fucking nuts, though. Cuz she like took some pills 10 years ago. Yeah, that's I don't, I don't know why they did that in the book in the book that they all you know, start gaining these kinds of powers, right? And then they decide, okay, this is too much for all of us to handle. We are going to make an agreement to all get rid of these powers. Yes. And then of course, she doesn't realize that she was able to do it. Yeah. So it's just, it's just a really interesting idea. I love the time traveling, boy line and all that. And, you know, I, I'm not a big believer in UFOs. But my feeling has always been we're probably seeing time travelers instead of aliens. So I don't know. So reading the book. Yeah, this is a bad movie. A very disappointing movie that I saw in the theater. Oh, man. What a bummer. Yeah, there was some really solid moments in here. I was like, that idea is so cool. But then watching the way they handle it is like, just the whole ending feel so rushed. And it feels really cheesy because of it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I could have said something like, Hey, don't bother was fear. You'll have a lot more fun with like Congo or something. Oh, no, I would have done vote. My friends. Were gonna watch it. Oh, it Congo is a bad movie. But it's fine. It would be fine. I was so close to doing Congo. And then I was like, no, no, I don't want to watch it like twice in one week. Yeah, that's cool. All right. 10 minutes. Let's see. So you kind of you can't you liked your movie, but it wasn't particularly successful. Right? You didn't make your movie and it wasn't particularly successful. So I think I scored on this one. All right. With 1978 coma? Where is the patient coming right down the column. Something wrong. Your pupils are fixed and dilated. She never doesn't seem to be anything unusual in the chart. Nancy's problems are caused by wrong lab tests. I want a list of all surgical patients with a general category of coma in the past few years show you what I had no idea. It's a big hospital. Supposing you wanted to put people into a coma, but we didn't mean on purpose. respirable cross? Mark it happened again. Keep it simple. What's simple carbon monoxide. There have been 10 cases of unexplained coma in young healthy patients in the last year. About a dozen of these coma cases here in the last year are always different. Different case different anesthetist, different operation. Hard to imagine this merge. Susan, what do you think? There's a conspiracy at the Boston Memorial Hospital involving all the anesthetists. Basically there's a crisis in her personal life. She's involved in one of your residents. The I know if you have any more trouble with her in the future? I don't think so. I hope you're right. There are 12 coma cases. What if carbon monoxide was being pumped into somebody's putting people into comas. Oh, Rotten Tomatoes rating 81% from the critics 66 from the crowd budget of 4.5 million and a box office of 50 million. Wow, this was a massive success. You can find it on many rental places because of that reason. It's directed by Michael Creighton, Director all run away timeline and relevant to this movie producer of 331 episodes of er Yeah. Written by Michael Creighton, writer of the Andromeda Strain Westworld runaway and killer poop in the movies. What I missed that one yeah not familiar with but based on the book by Robin Cook who I'm guessing you know if you had an aunt or a mom or something in the late 70s early 80s She was reading Robin cook books very very popular very good writer of stuff a coma or virus or harmful intent very much a a hospital dramatic writer oh I own this starred Michael Douglas here night no from China Syndrome 989 episodes of streets of San Francisco HOLY SHIT I did not know it ran that long the criminally underrated the star chamber and Billy ocean when the going gets tough the tough get going nice. Rip Torn. Who isn't in this movie a lot for as much as he is like he's like, credited as number two guy but he's definitely in it. You might know him for a B movie, or Dodgeball A True Underdog Story. You can dodge a wrench you can dodge ball. extreme prejudice by the wonderful Walter Hill and beasts mastered by the wonderful Don Coscarelli plus 191 credits overall Genevieve view old I believe that you say your last name. Eye of the Beholder Dead Ringers tightrope earthquake, the way a lot of the things are set up as credits and stuff she's usually listed third, second or third. She is the star of this movie she is in damn near every scene carries this film entirely and does a pretty damn good job of it. Also, featuring Richard Widmark, Ed Harris and Tom Selleck. Man, I've never seen this movie I guess I've ever watched. It's pretty good. Genevieve plays Dr. Susan will Weller, who's starts off by doing rounds in what is fairly large hospital, lots of doctors hanging around talking, there's several scenes of the doctors hanging around not really talking medical things, but talking stocks and Tagi variety of other things. But you can see if you watch Dr. You can see the the the little seeds that are planted in the way the things are shot and the way things are done. That he definitely updated and translated into the the shell. Michael Douglas and Wheeler are dating. And they definitely pull into the late 70s sexual dynamics of him, fix me dinner and her or screw you. So they start with a fight. That's obviously something they've done a lot. And she ends up leaving. And he's like, god dammit, I'm gonna do it again, which he kind of was but the first procedure they do looks incredibly accurate. It looks like Robin cook and Michael crane. This is how this operation would be done. This is how we're going to do it. But then something goes wrong. The person in the movie, she goes into a coma. So you know being a 70s movie those happens around 3035 minutes in. After all the character stuff is done. We learn starts to wonder what is going on because she's learned that another patient just a few days prior also seemingly healthy for a few weeks prior seemingly healthy got into a coma. So she starts to look into it. Tom Selleck shows up. Yeah. And the legend on this was he was actually just one of the people that gets in that's in a coma that you see later. But now he has a couple scenes in the movie, he is talking and interacting for this thing he's supposed to go in for a knee replacement or something. And he's there as the this is obviously a very healthy guy. He's in great shape. There's nothing wrong with him. Why does he go into a coma. So they're all tied to the same anesthesiologist, doctor in the house not the same anesthesiologist but the head of that department and that scene have gone know if I want to know why they have a bunch of dogs in cages next to this particular office, which you know, for those who are worried they really never go back to that so you don't need to worry about that. The initial lady who goes into a coma ends up dying and she goes to the medical examination where you get to see Ed Harris with a full head of hair. Weird, yes. And what is it? Sidenote, what is it with movies and television? The Emmys always have to be eating something. Cell right medical exam or doing got shot by shad ritual. We're here don't frighten me by the other people are going, Oh, this is gross. Okay, I got it. Her and Douglas character decides they're going to take a wonderful weekend off where they go off and they go antiquing, they see a cat. They sit in a diner near the water. And then they decide they're that somehow they ended up at this place called the Jefferson Institute, which is where she actually wanted to go because this is where all the people for attaching the karma ended up getting sent to this one Institute. And you know why this is a bad place because my god the music cue dun dun. As they're driving up, it looks like like a typical modern building of the late 70s where it's all cement. It's all hard a guy can sort of see the windows but not really. So it looks like not nice. She finds out that there are no doctors or medical staff, just technicians and one nurse working there and security. And so she's wondering, and so will you why are people going into comas? Why is the strange man killing people and chasing after Dr. Wheeler well, you get these answers. I sure hope so. So this is a pretty damn good film. This is well constructed incredibly well acted. The music is great even if that one seat is like alright, hit me over the head that this is supposed to be the evil place. I got it. Thanks. But a lot of the rest really works. What they have going on the answers is terrifying. And disturbingly plausible. Well done with Robert Cook and Michael great and you're gonna get something Oh, shit. I can see how that could happen. I don't like this. taglines from the number one best selling suspense thriller. Someone is getting away with murder. Some people call it something else. What is it? Imagine you're the light your life hangs by a thread. Imagine your body hangs by a wire. Imagine you're not imagining Yeah. What kind of wire Stanley Kaufman of the new republic wrote the coma is a thriller. It's rotten. It's really worse than that. It's a disgrace to the physicians involved in it. Wow. Damn right and intended to not scare people with this. He didn't want to create medical problems with hospitals or physicians. But he did no no the there were many physicians and hospital administrators claimed this occurred although of course none of them ever actually presented proof nothing was ever found out but they said you all this goes on. Variety claimed that her Tampa Hospital in Tampa had to remove the number eight from the door because all of the shit that goes wrong with the patients happens in operating room eight. So they had read number their operating rooms because patients would not go in WoW. Michael Douglas called the film the first time I've been offered a project with a good story laid out well, a good cast and a good director was one of his earlier films. Anyway, so the film costs 4.1 million but they knew they're in good shape because they'd already pre sold the movie for 3 million to TV. Wow, perfect. Well, they went they made a lot of money at a $50 million box office. Great Nick cook we're friends so they worked quite well together on this crane describe the film was like a Western if the doctor says the bad guys but they are also the good guys. What else? Yeah. He again he tried to and even as well detailed as I want operation was he tried to make sure that the features were shown in a way that didn't frighten the audience even though, you know, it didn't see any other big things. I want to say one little fun silly note. Tom Selleck was cast in the film because of his appearance in a Salem cigarette advertisement. Wow. Yeah. And it was remade in 2012 on a&e. Oh, I'm gonna miniseries. That's interesting. All I know about this movie is for some reason, all the bodies are suspended by wires. Yeah, that's all there is I don't think it's really, because since it's on the poster, and it's everywhere. It's not really a spoiler, but what it is, is what they're selling is that they found a way to store bodies in comas at 100 like 1020 30 40%, less or more. And as they get more hanging bodies, they feel they could keep a person suspended in this state in this facility for $5 a day. Oh, wow. Right now they're saying it's like, a couple $100 a day for the level of people they have which of course is miniscule compared to what you play at a hospital right? Stay in a coma. So that's interesting. Not surprising. finances of the hospital are a major point of this movie. I don't know why I Yes, maybe I was not into the medical thriller when I was growing up and stuff like that. So I think I just passed on this movie, but I think I might watch this tonight. It felt the ads and stuff. I remember because my grandma, my mom was a big fan of this film, but I remember watching it with her. But I remember her it felt very adult. Yes. Felt like this is going to be boring and have that look in the commercial. So yeah, that's probably why. Yeah. Yeah, I almost did this film for a few different things in the past and just kept watching the trailer and be like, Oh, no, might be awful. So I'm glad to hear is good. Might be awful. But that's fair. Looks amazing. There was a lot of 90s action films I missed that I'm trying to catch up on now. And that was one of them. And man, I wish I hadn't. Yeah, that could be a rough year for a great year and a rough year. In films. There's some like awesome little surprises where I'm like, Man, I thought this sucks, but it's actually really good. But this what what are the other? Do you know what the other great movies are? One of them's runaway. Yes. Go and run away. That's fun. Yeah, I don't know. I'm so excited. I have such a I have such a crush on Tom Selleck. It's not an uncommon thing. No, it's the stache down under Have you seen that film? I have not. It's fantastic. I have seen Three Men and a little baby. Too many times to count so not not because I chose to you by the way. My mom was just a love that movie. Oh, sure. Okay. Yes, me, mother. Eric, I believe the pic for the next of Jamba Juice. Oh. So we're pulling the old stunt. I know every one of us has done at one point in time where there's a movie I really want to watch. Tried to narrow down what I could do. I've got Oh, we could do kick. Now we've done cannibalism. Oh, we could do? Like a space kind of, I can remember the exact space. No, we've pretty much done that. Oh, I know, let's do movies shot in Spain, or by Spanish directors. Fantastic. I like it. I like it. And you know, both of you, we can always just go we're doing part two of something we've already done before. If truth there's a true true, you know, if there's a film you really want to get to. That's very true. That's very true. I like this idea very much. So that's what we'll be doing next week. 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