224 THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR GIALLO!
A discussion of AI, and Kelly and Vanessa double team The Pope's Exorcist! Also discussed: Evil Dead Rise, Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3, John Wick 4.
Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition such sites to show you strange aeons. Welcome strange aeons radio. That's Eric over there. That's Vanessa over there. Hello. I'm Kelly. Hey guys. Last week, we had to suddenly play an episode of The Amityville Horror Picture Show. But it had Vanessa on it. And it was almost like we didn't miss a week. Oh, and I don't know if everybody is listening to that. But if you are, please drop us a note and let us know that you're enjoying it or not enjoying it or whatever. Yes. I don't know that we get much comments on those episodes. We did get. Badger. So watch the YouTube comments. And I think Carlos left us a comment on the last one. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's familiar with the series. Right. And I always get you know, a couple of friends who reach out and say, I really enjoyed the last episode. And did you think about this, or you know, stuff like that. But I'd like to, you know, get a little bit more reach on these episodes. My mom. Her comment to me today was, Oh, I saw you played a repeat last week. Like, what it's like, yeah, that you do another one about the house. I was like, no, no, it's the series. There's a bunch of them about the house. She's like, but you're on it. I was like, as a guest star. That the one time you know, for anyone out there who's confused about how many Amityville versions we might be doing of that podcast. Oh my god. So it was interesting. Real listening to that over. I said there are 40 movies. There are already now 50 movies. Oh my god. It's gonna be horrible. Hurry up. You know, we do a lot of talk about AI on this. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, and I'm just fascinated with what's going on and how quickly it's happening, all of that stuff. And I decided to ask chat, gee, what is the GDP are GPT the Chatbot I said, write a poem about strange aeons radio. Oh my god. Oh my god. So I shall now read you what the robot gave me Oh, my God. Name of this poem is fantastic, strange aeons radio. from deep within the unknown abyss comes a voice that weaves a mystic twist. Strange aeons radio at the podcast divine, where the hosts Eric, Vanessa and Kelly shine. Their words like spells and chanting and true. Lead us on a journey to Worlds anew. With each episode we delve deeper still, into the mysteries that make us thrill. Eric, the master of cosmic lore, whisper secrets we've never heard before. Oh, Vanessa, with her soothing voice guides us through the darkness with poise. And Kelly, the Mistress of the McCobb. weaves tales of horror that we can't ignore. I don't know that you can rhyme Mocambo ignore that we can't ignore. Together they form a trinity of magic drawing us in with their Enigma, Enigma Matic antics. Whoa, their passion for the weird and the strange brings forth a show that's never mundane. With every episode, we're left wanting more, as the host regale us with tales of your so if you seek a podcast that's out of this world, where the hosts words are like pearls unfurled, then tune in to strange aeons radio, where Eric Vanessa and Kelly's magic flows. But ending was very strange now, Assistant, but Don't mind me. I am going to be in my car recording a tick tock and crying about how the robot has misgendered me. Isn't that crazy? Right? Yeah, that is. It's like you can see where the robot lives because there's weird repetitive. It's almost like it's a bullet point list that was trying to give you but it is there's cool words that are thrown in there. You know, they got it gets the basic idea. Surprisingly well. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty creepy is I want a robot to make a song out of that. Next thing that can be done. Oh, yeah, let's have it done by by Drake. And there's that one singer. She said that she'll split proceeds 5050 A few Is her voice Oh, I didn't hear about that. But I did hear the the upper was that there was a song released on Spotify that was supposedly by Drake and some other singer. Look kids, I'm not really up on today's music. But it was played so many times before it was revealed that it was an AI song, oh my God, and they took it off. But it was played so many times that it charted. Oh. So this is the danger we are coming into. I mean, it's happening really fast. We had presentations with our students at Seattle Central a couple weeks ago, and there was one group that apparently just use chat GVT to create their scripts. That's real rough, real rough. So we're trying to figure out the ethics of like, where to cross the line and tell people or where the line exists, okay, you can use it for programming, or you can use it to do blink. But you cannot, you cannot use it to like do the artistic portions of this course. The eight has weird, it's really weird. I had a conversation with one of our listeners, I don't know if he wants to share. So I won't mention his name. But he was saying he he's a teacher. And he's fighting with his not fighting, but working with his students who are trying to use chat GTP to be there to do their homework and stuff. And there are there are programs online too, you can drop the words into and they'll tell you if it was aI written. So you can't get away with it. If you're trying to hide it. I really want to look but it's it's here. Is it like there are too many fingers on this report is obviously written by the easiest solution to this. I don't know why people don't do this hand written reports. Make them write it in hand, like, okay, maybe they could put it in the computer, get the thing and then write it down. But that feels like more work and effort than it would be to just answer the questions on a piece of paper. And we'll have them do in class. But I can't imagine growing up as most college students now have with computers the whole time, I did not have that handwriting. Oh, gee, maybe absolutely bad. Maybe it's you never write. It'll get better though. If you make them do it all the time. I'm just saying I'll just then I often will send Carlos a picture of you know, me writing and the way I write is always at a bar with a drink in front of me and iPad and the keyboard but also, I handwrite everything that I transpose it over to the keyboard and he always says very nice things about my handwriting. Oh, my goodness, thank you to have nice handwriting. I had a weird friend. Well, you know, Mike, my old roommate. Yeah, years ago, he could write like a typewriter. Wow. It was so weird. He didn't do it all the time. saris on his letters. Yeah, I mean, you look at and go, was this. It was wild. That's crazy. So did he take the time to like, try to figure out how that looked. And then repeat it. Because he has naturally really, really nice handwriting. So he just figured out one day in like school or something. Sitting in social studies class board, so yeah, just figured out how to do it. Wow. Oh, my God. All right, guys. This is a movie podcast. So did you see what I saw movie? Oh, Carlos. I saw a movie in the theater. You said Carlos. Whoa, you and Carlos. No. And it is called Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three price. Oh, man. I laughed. I cried. I probably cried a little more than I thought it was gonna cry. And I liked it very much as a really, really nice ending to this trilogy. Very cool. I'm so excited. Seeing it tonight. There's like animal things that if you're that only laughs be aware. Of course, you get that from the trailer. All of these CG animals are starting to look so realistic. Ironically, one of the side characters is I think showed up in the holiday special the the cosmonaut dog and I keep thinking why couldn't they get a real dog for most of this and just animate the features because the dog looks like the least realistic thing in this movie. It seems like it would have been the easiest thing to work around. Yeah, dogs train well, but there's a lot of baby raccoon in this and it's it's kind of heartbreaking. Yeah, it is a really really great story. Centering mostly on rockets past and surprisingly, I mean I can't believe I'm gonna say the surprisingly mature ending in the way some storylines are tied together not what I would have expected out of a Marvel movie but but exactly what I would expect out of a James Gunn film so highly, highly recommended. And this will be probably last James Gunn Marvel venture right? Absolutely DC he's not going to let him come over and make a film Clearly wouldn't want to anyway, after Marvel really tried to fuck him over so, um, so I saw a film. Also in theater. There's a long amount of time to sit in a chair. But I saw John Wick for, okay, it's a long movie or on moving for, like 10 minutes feel like a minute. It does, I will say. I mean look, Cana Reeves is an incredible, he has such a dedication to the craft, and he has done such great work as far as bringing to light, you know, people who have been in the background as stunt actors, and he's got a heart of gold. He's getting a little old. So even though he trained as he normally would, for John Wick film, he's he's definitely got the slowest battles. And at one point, they just, quote unquote, injured John Wick, so that he has to kind of limp and walk places. I was like, Yeah, cuz you couldn't show him at his peak running around because he can't. So everyone else is moving a lot faster all around him. And he's just sort of, you know, battling the one person in the background while everyone else is sort of running around, but also a good ending to a series. Well, I haven't seen it. But I mean, there's already three spin offs happening. So the world continues, and John Wick world can continue to check that one out. So I'm on another. Remember, I talked about the story of film for a while. I'm reading another weird ass book about film, called transcendental style in film by Paul Schrader. Oh my god. I gotta tell you, this is a book full of some filmmakers going Who the hell is that? And I've heard of Ozu. I have no breasts hair dryer. I don't know. This one was picked up because it was published. It sounds like the way it reads. I think it was originally published in the 70s or early 80s. But it added try kowski because he wasn't included in the first one because he's too fast of a filmmaker. Oh, my God. So this is a fairly strange this world of film. We're talking about one film by a guy named tars whose son take yoga, which is a seven hour and 12 minute movie. Oh my god. Dr. Says evolution of a Filipino family clocks in a short 10 hours and 47 minutes. Certain narrative features. Not experimental. He's Vanessa that that three hour John Wick film doesn't sound so bad now. It really doesn't. There is one film in the works. And then now we get into the experimental films. That is by Anders Warburg, who couldn't quite tell if he's sort of finished it but he hasn't finished it but his goal is to do a 720 hour or 30 Day film. Oh my god I will run one time and then he'll destroy the film. I fucking hate this guy. If you want to check out the trailer to see what the movies about on Vimeo there is a seven hour trailer guide which yes I did go and watch it no I did not watch seven hours of it. I think at the end of that seven hours you're like I feel like I've seen the entire movie. I think so. Yes. The longest film ever recorded at this point? Because his hasn't been finished was 29 teens. We will make a cinema analysis long as narrative film at 21 hours and five minutes. The longest experimental film is 35 days and 17 hours Oh my god. It's a series of numbers. I don't know what the name of it is logistics. That's what it's called logistics over so what does defy I mean besides stupidly long, those are really the outliers the book is much more about Ozu presser and dryer where they're talking about how they're tell films tell movies and tell stories in a very different way. Oh, zoos got a bunch of criteria and releases and stuff. So he's a very recognized Japanese filmmaking master. But it's just such a weird way to look at the concept of film. And it's it's really interesting. The first introduction though, which is where all that stuff was was in the introduction itself is just sort of like here's the craziness of this. It's called a slow cinema. No shit. And segments is slow seminar and called Walking cinema. Or, like, traveling cinema or something. Basically, you're you've just watched somebody walk for a couple hours or something. I don't know. But Tchaikovsky's and the way they make films is a really interesting read. But yeah, I'm not going out to watch out Gotta be watching logistics anytime soon. You know, it's a 35 day film, but it really cooks and it feels like you're only in there for like 21 days. And if you think about like, when we watched episodes of TV, I can kind of see like, you know, we when we watch like yellow jackets or we're already submitting to a, you know, 10 hour experience. So what's the difference here? And I guess the difference is just probably very good writing. I think the biggest difference between a long movie and a TV series is TV series are written with climactic moments and things like that. Feel like you've reached an end point or a break point so you say Oh, well that's the end. Oh, I'm gonna watch another as opposed to sitting there for 10 hours and it never stops unless you stop like ah, but i Hey, watch Yellowjackets for a while man Transcendentalism woof. Okay, I saw a film guys that I'm almost positive you guys did not see and that is called the Pope's exorcist. Oh my god. That was what I was gonna talk about. Seven years from now. Oh, no, that's brand new Russell Crowe. No, I have nothing that are you really going to talk about? It's fine. You can take it. I don't care. I don't care. I was just sure you had no interest in this. That's why I didn't bring it up. I was like, There's no way either of you would have watched this. We can double team this film. I'm embarrassed to admit that I mostly liked it. I also mostly liked such a surprisingly not god awful movie. But it was so stupid. So stupid. There were so many moments where I was like, huh, exorcist. You've seen it. Good job. We're going to the hospital. You say whoa, crazy. There were a couple of times when I was like, if your film has the word exorcist in it, you probably should not take scenes directly from the most famous name exorcist in it. Do you think so? And yes, but it's got Russell Crowe and he can do up to 199 sequels to this movie. This is true. I, I have to admit that fat. Kind of funny. Russell Crowe was really appealing to me that Italian is accented. He was super accent. But he owned it. What kind of like, I mean, did you think that his accent in Thor was a little over the top? Because he's got the same Italian accent of this movie. It was it was definitely a delay. This was one where I had no interest in seeing it. And a certain other person living in my household was like, let's see this movie for $20 and I went no, thank you. And then the next day was like okay, what are you happy? Well, mostly stupid. The acting throughout was, you know, mostly bad. And then that third act was like a crazy action horror film and I was not expecting it and it was so gory. I was just like, I think I might love this movie now. There were some really good effects and they just really went there they were just like, You know what? Sure. Let's Yeah, let's just explode this person. So this is a home streaming rental at this point it is now yeah. So quickly to available on home still at 9099 that has like this can't be good. Yeah, but I'm home and so yeah, I guess that's a soft recommend that yeah, I'd say it's a really soft recommend. If you're if you're not sure wait till it's a five $6 Rent don't wait till it's you know a cool $4 on Amazon. Yeah, I thought it was gonna be absolute trash. And it was kind of fun. So nice. It's very, I guess the thing I would say is it's kind of like an episode of evil Yeah, without without the sexiness although although the younger priest I thought you know, once we learn a little bit about his past I was like, oh, okay, we're gonna get something going on there. Oh, like waxy Well, he's no Mike Colton if that's not attractive, and everything about him is a little gross, but that's what you're saying. He's not fitting Russell Crowe. He's not any Russell Crowe. He's as far removed as you can get from another human being without I guess being a girl from Russell gratify. I mean, he's he was fine. He was fine. He was not a sex appeal to me personally. But you Kelly, I won't speak for you. He was kind of working for me except for the whole priests part. Especially for the priests back It actually just Well, I think at least one of us has seen this one maybe both I don't know. Went to a theater with some awesome Krypton folks like Tony, who has been on the show and bomb and other fun group and we've got Evil Dead rise. I saw this as well. Yeah, I have not seen it yet. I was so bummed to miss out on the opportunity to see it with you guys. But how was it? Well, I never even got an invite. So we're gonna talk about that offline. But the I thought it was awesome. I enjoyed the hell out of it. It's it does for whatever. All the other franchises can't seem to figure out. The Evil Dead franchise figures out what an Evil Dead movie is at its core even if a lot of the surrounding things move away from that. I saw some of the hardcore people that quote wasn't in a cabinet Yeah, I think that's sort of what the opening was for to let you know this is going beyond the cabin now. Also, do we need another Evil Dead in the cabin? No, no. It doesn't need to be the same movie. Yeah, in fact, I I was like okay, here's where we go from this now we go to Evil Dead Metropolis the evil is loose in the city then we go to Evil Dead World for the final part of this trilogy or something like that. It is interesting that I feel like we're on two very different franchise streams that would include like the first movie, and then the remake and then this movie as movies that are trying to be horror films and then Evil Dead two Army of Darkness and the series of evil that are Ash vs. Evil that that are kind of the comedic versions of these films. So still all Evil Dead. Yeah, still work in the same weird world. Enough. Enough easter eggs there were there was maybe a little too many nods to the original. And this one for me as far as dialogue. One there was just enough, right. So it's cool. But yeah, I can see what you mean with the dialogue was running a little. Okay. I remember talking about leak Ronan's film before this hole in the ground. Did you guys ever see that? I don't think so. And I really liked it. It is a very, very slow burn. And I remember thinking I wonder what Sam Raimi season this film that makes him think that leak prone and should be doing an Evil Dead film. But whatever it was, I think he really knocked it out of the park. I love the title. Reveal. Oh, that was pretty cool. Yes. So cool. And clever with what was going on in the screen and everything. So yeah, I would. I definitely like to see it again. Yeah. So Tony went and saw it like, like Thursday, going back was Saturday. So he went between the swatching. And on Thursday and bone Brad to see it again. And he's like, yeah, it got better. Because I was able to move past the insanity of just trying to follow what's going on and see a little bit more what they were doing. I guess he really thought it works even better. More viewings, so that's cool. And Eric, I remember you and I went saw the remake and we walked out of their gun. I mean, that was okay, but we weren't really blown away by it. This one I think is head and shoulders above the remake. Yeah, it's it figured it out. It did what I you know, of course and say who knows how involved Sam and Bruce were I mean, they're both producers on it, but they don't seem like yeah, control freaks. But whatever points they helped with, I think really made it really made it work. I heard an interview with Lee Cronin. And he said that he basically pitched them a couple of the the scenes and they really liked that and they were like, okay, yeah, here the guy. Nice. I hope he gets a chance to do his he wants to do a prequel now to this which is the priests in the 1920s get that book so I was like I would watch that. Every really cool, man the the book is awesome looking at this one. Yeah. Wow. I don't know if you notice his idea was that there's the book from the original movie that that Bruce Campbell seems to always be dealing with right? But in Army of Darkness there were three books on the pedestal and he felt like the second book was the remake and that the this book is that third book and that was one of the things he pitched Sam the SAM really loved so but think of kind of kind of ties them all into the same universe. No wonder he did so well. He really understood the source material a big fan Yeah, yeah, go see that one. Deal. The really like I'm nervous because like the trailer just made it look like a gore fest and I hope it is I was like, I mean I kind of need a good story to get me through that kind of stuff because otherwise like it just like I was like great a cheese grater that's gonna be that made me kinda feel like the other I mean because with the exception of Army of Darkness there's not a lot of story in The Evil Dead movies mostly I you know, I'm trying to figure it out and I don't know if I do the movies because I don't find them the funny ones funny so i don't know i Maybe it's just lat last on man I'm not I'm not sure I really struggle with it. I think I have to it's a very distinct thing doesn't work for you it doesn't work for you remake was fine. I also watched it was like I was bringing blood that was just so downbeat and I really liked the the idea of the reason were up in a remote cabin and we have no contact with the world is because this person this is an intervention we're getting this person off heroin and all that. And I was like, okay, that's clever, but I never beyond that. I didn't think that it was very scary. I never got the feeling that the evil might escape the cabin. Right? But bringing it to a high res and the fact that it was not what I thought it was going to be which was like a poltergeist three high res you know it's an old 70s la high rise is like 20 stories high maybe and very cool looking. And the gimmick for keeping them in the building is very smart. So I just thought boy, this is a really neat chapter in this and I would love to see some more stuff like this it just the book can be placed anywhere now right we can get an Evil Dead Space now. Right which is all I ever want Excellent. Oh good. Okay, should we take a little break and then when we come back we're going to be talking jello films a quiet moment belong to j and B. The Scotch whisky so rare. We have returned and Eric this was your sub genre. Yeah. And they get into if you collect several discs, you have a probably have a massive backlog of Giotto films pull from and I do so I thought let's give this one a shot. Hi, Tony. I know you're liking this 110 minutes on the buzzer, Eric Thank you. We've got I'm gonna go with 1970 ones the case of the scorpions tail 1920 The Golem directed by Paul Wagner and Henrik galena 1926. The Battleship Potemkin by Sergei Eisenstein 1930 M. by Fritz Lang 1931 large door by Luis Manuel bar great picture for masterpieces on violence. Today. Sergio Martino reaffirms this classic violence with the pace of the scorpions tale So this has no critics rating yet it's got three ratings all fresh but not enough consensus to give it a rating and 71 from crowd. So pretty good. No idea what budget is no idea what box offices mean come on. It's 1971. It's available on Arrow blu ray and occasionally shows up on air I've seen on Arrow streaming service many times. This is by Sergio Martino, who has done many films a man called Blade 2019 After the fall of New York, hands of steel, beyond Kilimanjaro, across the river of blood, the island of fishermen. One of the great titles that I made fun of until I watched the movie and thought, oh my god, this is really freaking good. Your vice is a locker room and only I have the key and the truly subtle film torso starring Eduardo Manzi Onos from cabaret Yes, that one. Go for broke light. The fuse on Tara is coming. Django the Shango the the Hon killer and let's see what else we've got. We've got Ernesto Gastaldi. Who's got 124 Writing Oh, this is one of the writers started during 24 writing credits. libido cheers to cyanide. And so steel once upon a time in America. My Name is Nobody torso, the amazing jello all the colors of the dark. The Forbidden photo of a lady above suspicion. And a third writer sarios governor Lee, who's done love and death in the garden of gods. Your advice is a large group and only I have the key. A man called blade, the cynic the rat and the fist and $10,000 for a massacre. You can tell what period these guys were writing $10,000 Not enough to do a massacre and discuss it up. starring George Hilton. George Hilton. The strange vise of Mrs. Ward massacre time. Holy God, here comes the pastor. They called him the player with the dead and all the colors of the dark. Another performer a Nita Strindberg, who from your vices locked room and all they have the key. Wow, the salamander and a lizard in a woman's skin, which is one of those yellows I've always wanted to see, but haven't yet abodo de Munzo from horror Express nights without moons in sun, Cairo, Curse of the Black Sea cat, a lizard in a woman's skin. And the people on the dark. He's got like 124 Acting credits, so it's all Italian people that have been in a whole bunch of the Italian movies during the 60s and 70s She aloe and Western Italian Western period. The opening notes on this are amazing. It sounds like it's almost Goblin, but it's not. It's a bet it's definitely definitely JLo music. The credits kind of run over a last walk you through the streets with crazy led red light. And like I said, the music really works. So they kind of set up the jail really nicely right from the start. I gotta tell you, movie starts with an exploding plane. Pretty sure it was firecrackers and a $5. Airplane from the airport. I love it. Excellent. Does not look good. But the plane was carrying or leading lady's husband who had mysteriously insured himself for a million dollars. Well, so she heads on to the office, the lawyer's office to find out what's going on. She looks like she's guilty. So she, I don't know, a drug addict comes out or the stopped in the street and wants to know what she's up to. But he's found out somehow that she's getting a big inheritance so he wants to blackmail her. Now there's a man with a scar and the letter following her. She gets to the blackmailers house finds a letter, but no. She finds him dead. And we're 12 minutes into the sucker starts like a firecracker. Strange setup with a woman playing a piano? Not particularly well, but okay, but I say that because she's on a stage of a giant performed look like you're practicing to perform at a very large Paramount Theater kind of place. She says no, your husband loved me, told me he was going to divorce you and I would get the inheritance. Like, okay, nice story. But this is followed by one of the best shots in the film where the scarred man shows up again and they go running through this gigantic spiral staircase. And it's one of those metal ones so you can see through all the steps and you can see the middle and it just looks amazing. And the first appearance of black clothes so you're fully into geology territory now. The widow takes this money in cash, and there's some weird mystery going on about something she has to get to Tokyo for the money I don't think they ever address this because we've got a psycho level plot twist here with the leading lady so if you watch psycho you know what I mean? And it really changes the tone and tenor of the movie. And now you know 71 movie we can't have a woman be the female lead I guess through the whole movie. Now it's the insurance adjuster who is investigating her is the lead guy. thing Okay, fine. But then it does follow shortly after which the with the other key of a shallow film, a bottle of jnb which people drink from, it does make its appearance. One hour in the movie is like a totally different film started. It's not a bad change, but it is a really extreme difference. But I will also let you know that if you're curious watching this film, you will definitely learn that pronto means hello. There are so many phone that's answered in this breaking film. And everybody answers it Bravo. Bravo. How about SP mix it up. Give me a How you doing? Hey, what's up? But overall, this is a pretty good jello search here. Martino I think is a incredibly underrated Italian director. Part of the problem I think is he worked in he's got 68 directing credits, and he did tons of genres. He did all kinds of shit. It's there's comedies there's jealous there's horrors, there's romantic comedies, it's just a crazy cavalcade of films. He was just a he's like a studio director but in that time period and he just worked all the time. But his stuff occasionally looks amazing. And he is easily on par with some of maybe not married up off his best but definitely Morrow Barack Obama was middle of the road is better than his a lot of his stuff which he'd worked with Mario Bava on the film The whip and the body where it said he actually did almost all of the directing Because Baba was not so caring by then that's interesting. I really liked that movie live in the body is pretty good one you might like his stuff. Okay, that can be kind of extreme especially the your vices and I'm I have the key that one's like, Well, my God. Not quite a bit not quite Argento, but he's definitely a realm of Roberto Lenzy or Fulcher, folchi or many of the other filmmakers of the year. The music I mentioned earlier is by game Pruno Nicola, who's composer of 124 common number for these guys, films and television including Caligula, a virgin among the many living dead. The inconsolable widow thanks all those who consult her. I love these titles. My horse my gun, your widow. They call him cemetery and of course, your voice is Electrohome and I like this movie was popular enough in Spain that they did a 70 millimeter blow up for its release. Large 70 million meters. I'm vamping here a little bit talking about stuff because for a film it's got it's part of the arrow release of three or Martino's films. There's almost nothing on them. There's like an interview with the lead actor which I watched most of but didn't realize he's just talking about himself which you know is interesting but not the movie. Not talking about stuff like and the write ups on it the are relatively generic and it's like I guess this was just a relatively well put together film that didn't have a lot of drama on it and just got done, completed and released. Like honestly, most movies Are Did you like it? Yeah, it's a good yellow. I like Martino style. He does. He's a little calmer. He's not quite as crazily stylistic as our gentle can get, which is cool is helped. So, but I think he tells pretty good story and he knows how to make a film. Yeah, it was worth watching. I actually this is actually one. He said it got blown up to 70. And I'm like, Well, now I really am curious what the budget and box office for this film was. Yeah. Because it must have been something they felt pretty confident about. Yeah, yep. Yeah, it did. Well. Vanessa, oh man. In a while, it comes 10 minutes. I don't know if I can do this, guys. I haven't seen a lot of yellow. It's definitely like a little bit of a black box for me. And there's things that I want to check out. And there were some that I considered that are very modern takes on jello, but I thought maybe I'd go the opposite direction and just do the first ever jello. So you've probably seen this Eric the girl who knows too much from 1963. It's also called the evil eye. The supernatural powers of the Evil Eye claims still another victim. Its malevolent enjoyment of tantalizing torture, hangs threateningly over. John Saxon, Leticia Roman and Valentina cortizo madness and the maddening aura that destroys reasonable pure spirit every breath with the smell of death Have you ever seen the mother before? No. Never seen anything like that. Never. Stop playing games where you learn DD? I don't know what you're trying to do. But I know that you're you're involved in this. Perhaps Nora has seen the killer. But how do we know that he hasn't seen her. The evil eye like relentless tides reaches out for and they defiantly hold ecstasy and horror in their arms in touch lips with terror while the evil eye watches their every kid and invades their subconscious. All right, well, it is a Mario Bava joint. It had a budget of 190 million lira boxoffice of 80 million lira. I mean, but I don't know because it's the first one and then he immediately did another so I don't I don't know about these numbers. Rotten Tomatoes. Gives it a 71% from critics and a 68% from audience. Baba, who were just talking about has 39 credits to his name, including failed blood, Black Sabbath, blood and black lace Black Sunday, but he was even more so as a cinematographer. He has 79 credits for that and including other films like Leeson the devil, he did the cinematography on pretty much everything that he directed. It is starring John Saxton. He's a totally Italian dude. Do you guys know John Saxon is just an Italian dude. Because I did not know he's just an Italian dude. And he is he's just like, hey, I'm the handsome Italian man. I was like okay, what year was this again? His 1963 Okay, so he's he's right this prime man. Yeah, he's a young stood. He's been at 197 things. We would have seen him in Black Christmas Enter the Dragon Nightmare on Elm Street New Nightmare of course, and also tena Brae, which I did not know he was in or to neighbor, and also costarring Well, mainland starring Leticia Romane. She has 26 credits her name some German films, some Italian films and some TV walk on roles. She's not good, but she is beautiful. So I can see why maybe in a certain time of her life, she got a lot of roles in Maybe not that many after. The story follows Nora, an American on a trip to Rome to visit a family friend, this old lady named ETHEL. Now, Nora, an American is not an American. Nor is an Italian lady. She speaks Italian. She acts like an Italian she kisses people on the cheek she says things when she answers the phone like maybe Bronto. Maybe she ain't so American, but she occasionally calls her mom in New York and she talks about how American she is and how much she wants to see the world so cool. She loves it. She loves detective novels and is engrossed in one on the plane ride over when a man sitting next to her. It kind of flirtatiously offers her a cigarette and she says no and then changes her mind takes it and he gives her the whole pack. When she arrives at the airport. The man who's walking next to her is arrested by the police for importing marijuana cigarettes, which are briefcases chock full of the same marijuana cigarettes several times in this movie and it just incredible. She's embarrassed and leaves very quickly knowing that she has a pack in her purse. Ooh. She arrives and finds out that and this is Ethel is actually very sick and they handsome Dr. John Sexton is really worried about her. He says, you know, pretend it's teller. She's fine, but I'm actually very worried. Here's my number, give me a call if anything goes wrong. He also is very smitten with her. That night, Ethel just dies nor tries to call for help, but the phone does not work. So she runs out onto the Spanish steps, and as mugged. She then wakes up hours later and sees a woman falls down across the stairs with a knife in her back. A man with a goatee takes the knife out and drags the woman away, nor passes out again. wakes up to a man putting alcohol on her mouth passes that again, wakes up with a police officer finding her saying she's drunk. She goes to a doctor I thought she was gonna end up in like an insane asylum the way they're talking about or they're like she's hysterical. She has no sense of time. And they have like all the students surrounding her and I'm like what is happening? And eventually, of course, the doctor who liked her, shows up and helps her get out of there. She then goes and tells the nuns at the hospital, the doctor, other doctors, please. And her mother on the phone about the lady she saw who was killed and of course nobody believes her. They all think she was delusional or hallucinating. She becomes obsessed with finding out what happened to this woman and following every lead that she can. Meanwhile, of course, John Sexton Saxton is becoming more and more in love with her. The tale leads us through a weird sometimes almost hallucinogenic moments of it gets a little beat by beat for murder mystery, but with some sexy Italian Enos and landscapes thrown in. And eventually the truth of course comes out it's very complicated, complex. And Nora does fall in love with the awkward open mouth fish kissing Italian John Saxon. It is one of the grossest kisses I have ever seen on screen nasty will she realized that Ethel isn't rising from the dead but it's actually being moved by a cat climbing on the other side of the bed? Probably not. Will she ever look at at the states she's being in a room in sorry in Rome and not act like she's incredibly bored out of her mind? Probably cuz she lives there. Probably not. Or will all turnout to possibly a dream be a dream from smoking marijuana cigarettes by accident that the man on the plane Gaver who knows? It's it isn't described. They don't answer that. But they do set it up and you're like, Are you fucking kidding me? Um, a couple of thoughts on this movie. Nora is She's a beautiful, beautiful woman. She is irritating as fuck. She spends half the film, jumping literally nothing. She's very nervous girl. She looks nervous. She's always walking very slowly kind of checking around in every scene she's in. It gets very tiresome. The shots of Italy are gorgeous. This is a black and white film. In fact, this is the last black and white movie by by Mario Baba. It feels almost Fellini and style. They show off every major attraction, the Spanish Steps the Colosseum, the big fountain. Like I said, it's really weird that American isn't Italian. This feels like a real flip on the typical jello. In the there is the like weird. Voiceover that keeps interrupting what's happening where there's a guy describing as if like it's a mystery novel what's going on? Nora? Really thought about the call complexities of the case. You're like, what is okay? But it does have lots of shadows fashion visions. It's not yet at the point where we have the bold colors the crazy sex the gloves, or the you know more of the insanity that you get, but it does feel a little bit more like a typical murder mystery. Very Hitchcockian rip off, but with a telling your beats along the way a little bit of trivia. Mario Bava was a big fan of Hitchcock weird, and has his cocky and touches about the film including a cameo by the director and the scene were Romane were the main actress is in her bedroom. Ethel's home the portrait on the wall with the eyes that keep following her. Is that a Mario Bava I think I missed that. That's regarded as the seminal work in what became the giallo genre. Released in America and Britain as evil I there was some drama between Saxon and Baba on the set. Saxon states that he had initially gotten along with Baba during production. Later when Saxon was practicing Judo on the beach. It really upset Baba who felt like he was showing off was what it was like all right. And a contemporary review with the monthly film Bolton Baba describe the film as a tolerably Oh, sorry, did he describe? Sorry, call it roughly okay, but he said a tolerably silly but quite enjoyable thriller. Revere viewer noted the plot stating that Bavel always better cameraman the director, hasn't Riccardo ferratas ability to make a merit of cliches and often seems rather unhappy with his complicated plots, which is packed to the brim with red herrings, lurking shadows and sinister happenings, known as thriller dumb. Director Mario Bava did not look back positively on the film claiming that he thought the film was too preposterous. Perhaps it could have been done with James Stewart and Kim Novak. Whereas I had Oh, well, I can't remember their names this film made way for Baba to go into full swing jello with his next film Blood and black lace. Very nice. Did you like it? I don't really like murder mysteries. Yeah, and I don't like Noir. And I kind of like jello because it's insane. So it didn't have that. Very boring was the you know why? People consider it the first one because I'd heard it mentioned as an inspiration that led to what became jello. I was curious, too. But I read like in three different places. It's considered to be the first one and maybe it's just because this Baba could be any starting to it does start with that premise that she's obsessed with murder mystery novels, and you start to see that initial thing where the murder mystery novel, and it's at its height, and I wonder if that inclusion? And that sort of her obsessive obsession with that is part of laying the groundwork for what it becomes. But no black loves. Okay, well, all right. Put in 10 minutes on the board. Eric, do you know that I don't particularly like jello? Yes. And this film did not change my opinion. I chose from 1971 The cat o nine tails. Laurie, would you take a look and tell me who you see in that car. We just passed this man with brown hair. There's somebody else too, but I can't see his face. He's told me to look at the other night scientist crush by train. I'd like to talk to you about the death of Dr. CALABRESI. Our photographer he managed to get a shot at the action. It's as if somebody had pushed the poor bastard under the train my friend the photographer he's he's dead 30 The bus stop. I don't like your manner. I'm not crazy about your receipt. Let's make peace. Take Me Out of Here wherever it is, is getting desperate. When somebody has committed four murders, he won't hesitate to commit them. drink any more have a budget of about a million dollars but I find no box office. Rotten Tomatoes critics have it at 81% and the audience has it at 54% and the director is Dario Argento. Written by Dario with story credits to Luigi Cozzi, Donald Zuccotti. And these guys are Italian directors and writers responsible for Paganini horror and 9090 Bronx warriors. Bring it all. Part of the reason I chose this is because it is starring James Franciscus 77 credits including the Valley of grungy good guys were black, but is perhaps best known as Brent in beneath the Planet of the Apes. It is also starring Karl Malden 72 credits very recognizable character actor. He was in the gunfighter baby doll media 120 episodes as Detective let detective Lieutenant Mike stone on the streets of San Francisco. And it also stars Katherine Spock, who has 87 credits she was in honey murder is a murderer and the boxer she is beautiful in the way only Italian women in the 1970s can be English. Yes. Stunning. Okay, I know you've seen this, Eric. Oh, yeah. Well, while ago it started as a weird question of mine when I was still renting regularly from scarecrow. It's like well, let's see a bunch of Argento films. I think it's like his first are very early on. Yeah. And in fact that they don't say that this really is a jello, but it is in the jello section of my arrow. Yeah, you know, Arrow streaming. And so I'm counting it as that. Oh, yeah. At first I tried to watch a strip nude for your killer. And I got about halfway through it. And then when I went to go back to finish it, Arrow streaming wouldn't let me it would just always kick me out. I was like that. I guess I'm watching a different movie now. So here I am cat of nine tails. We start with a middle aged blind man Franco walking down the street at night with his 10 year old niece Laurie when they passed by a man in a car. Franco overhears him say the word blackmail. So he bends over pretending to tie his shoes and asks Lori to describe the man in the car. Lori does but says that she cannot see the other man that's in the car very clearly. I love that this guy feels like something is dangerous and immediately draws his 10 year old niece into that danger when they walk back to their apartment and while Laurie is asleep. FRANKEL works on a puzzle and he hears a noise. Outside the man who was unseen in the parked car, he gets out and breaks into a large medical complex that stands right next to the apartment building where Franco lives. The next day the police arrived at the Institute and we meet Carlo Giordano, who is a hotshot reporter. That's James Franciscus. he bumps into Franco and helps him off and there's an immediate connection between these two guys evident even through the fucking horrible dubbing that is going on in this movie. I was just getting more and more furious with because I get see them speaking in English. And then they were dubbed into Italian very, very badly, just infuriating. Later, we see that the man that Laurie could see in the car that night has been killed under mysterious circumstances at the train station. And now we're off and running because it turns out Franco and his daughter go to Carlo and start sharing what they saw and heard because Franco before he went blind, was a journalist also Oh, of some renown. And now together he and Carlo and spunky little Laurie are going to solve this crime. People start dying immediately. The photographer who caught on film that it looks like the doctor was pushed in front of a train. Franklin Carlo make an appointment to discuss with him what he saw. But when they get there, he's been killed, murdered with a man murdered by a man with black gloves and piano wire. This would have been a really cool scene if his blood wasn't pink, bright and bright pink blood making me go. I wonder what planet he came from. This is getting very interesting. So Carlos, Carlo goes off on his own to speak with the head of the institute. I wrote down what the name of this institute was. It is the Tootsie Tootsie Institute. And he goes on to speak to the head of the Institute, which gets him nowhere. But then he runs into Anna, the daughter of the head of the institute. And he and Anna get along like a house on fire because he's James Franciscus. And she is A gorgeous Italian woman. He is really handsome is like this is maybe the same year or maybe the year after beneath the planet of the ace. I'm like, Man, this guy is something else. I totally believe he's Italian. So they get together for dinner and Anna tells him that the Institute researches chromosome alteration, specifically the xy y chromosome, the extra y of which indicates a criminal tendency in the subject. It's not oh my god, I remember from here, more people involved with the Institute's research end up murdered and it starts to become clear that they are being specifically targeted. But by who? By who, Vanessa. The first one, a little girl, little girl. Yes, it is a little. There's some. There's some fun stuff in this with the killer. Injecting poison into some delivered milk cartons that keep almost being open to drink. But it is interrupted by the beautiful Anna and the ridiculously handsome Carlo having sex. All right. The weird thing is right after they're very passionate lovemaking. They're about to drink milk. Oh, right. And I mean, I guess it does a body good. It is the post-coital Drink that I offer everyone after having sex with them. Would you like some milk? Cool or fresh to present? Oh, it's hot today? Would you like a glass of milk? Just like this seat half is that I like I'm going to roll up. All the fluids that were exchanged is fine with me. But then having milk afterwards is nauseating. You know, it's Europe. What can you say? Well, I I have I must have recently watched this. Aren't they served like some weird because yes, they're almost like bags of milk. Yeah, very strange. In Italy. They're like, it's weird. They're not in the refrigerator aisle. That was the other thing that bothered me. He gets these bags of milk. And he puts them on his counter. Yeah, no, they don't. They don't refer to from the way they process or store them or something. They're just in the aisle. Horrifying. But it sets up at where he pours her sump and then he's talking to somebody. And then he sees that there's milk spilled all over from the little injection hole. And so he knocks it out of her head just as she's about to drink it is it's a pretty good scene. There are some nice red herrings in the mix. So you start thinking the killer could be anyone, but not really you meet one person that they start to and you're like, That guy's definitely doing a little Laurie gets kidnapped while Franco and Carlo are breaking into a tomb. And that's a pretty fun sequence because Carlo is inside and the tomb suddenly gets shut on him. Carlos the this James Francisco's and then when he gets the tomb open, Franco is standing there. He's he has a cane. He's a blind man. Right? The cane also has a sword in it force. And the sword is bloody. So we're like what happened? And he's like, my daughter was kidnapped. And so now you're like, Wait a second. Yeah, and on this. I won't tell you because even though it's obvious, this is actually a pretty decent movie. And if you get any interest in this kind of stuff, this is definitely one worth watching. I liked it. The dubbing was making it really fucking hard to watch. Obviously, Karl Malden and James Franciscus are delivering their lines in English, right? And they're horribly dumbed into Italian and, you know, it goes both ways. You know, I'd much rather watch an Italian film with subtitles. But if we're going to do this, let them speak English and subtitle it or something. I don't know why. You know, this like John Saxon. How good was his Italian? Oh, it's very good. Yeah, his parents or his parents are Italian though. Is that true? Yeah. Oh, I tried to look in Italian. Yeah, just yet. You started a number of Italian films. No, it's a good idea to start there. But yeah, sorry. I'm not even sure this works is a jello because it doesn't really have many of the tropes at all. But like I said, arrowhead under their jello banner, and that was good enough for me in a very short time. It can be shoehorned in, but I think deep read is largely considered his, especially one. This is part of the animal trilogy. Okay, so I've got some tag lines. Remember the name of this movie? cat of nine tails, right? Oh, yes. It's 910 it's nine times more suspenseful. Oh, God. How about this, from the master of terror? Who gave you the bird with the crystal plumage that picture that Outsite cycle. As the body count increases, Will no one escaped the sting of the cat o nine tails, which is a bullshit because that's not what this title refers to at all. And that's not what cats do. They don't have a tail. This thing's here. Sorry. Finally. Caught between the truth and a murderous hand. I have just a couple of bits of trivia here. Least favorite of Dario gento among his pictures. During the nighttime burglary at the Tutsi Institute, a doctor can be clearly heard whistling and Jamar Marcona is tuned from the bird with the crystal plumage. And then the title does not refer to a feline or a kind of whip, but the number of leads to follow in the attempt to solve the murders. One last thing I want to say about this, they talk about the X Y Y chromosome being this this thing that's a indicator of violent tendencies in the 70s there was this push of that they called it the Super Male chromosome. And it acted on the brain's limbic system which regulates primitive drives including impulses toward violence and somehow helps trigger violent criminal acts this has roundly been refuted today. So it was kind of interesting to see a pop up because I remember seeing books about that kind of stuff in the house when I was growing up but it's one of those bullshit things Yeah, I Please no more to jello. This is not for me. I don't know I have a bunch of jello films I want to see that aren't actually jello do that on your own. But those like the modern ones yeah knifeless heart and the editor are the two that I'm but they're not really I didn't think they really counted for this so well and that when I talked about the the last matinee that would have been a perfect jello film to do I wish I had done that because I really enjoyed that film. Oh, okay. Corpses tan or something like that or look while the corpses tan? I've heard of it, but I've not seen it. That is a wow, modern yellow by some crazy filmmakers. It's it's interesting. Corpse plus hand while the corpse is doing I think it's called her dead corpses. Tana remember exact title. It's a weird one. You know? It's a jello. Yeah. Wow. Well, I mean, I'm glad I got another one knocked off my list. So I feel like I understand film thing can talk about it slightly more intelligently. We'll do a transcendental film thing sometime. Oh, my God, please don't our podcast will last for days. No, thank you. Kelly couldn't make it. He's still you got two more weeks on his film left? Did anybody finish their films this week? No. Okay, who's got the who's got the choice for the next? I believe that would be me. I believe it would be Yeah. So um, something we don't talk about nearly enough. On our podcast, nuclear disasters. Oh, good times. I would like to have us pick films from the nuclear family. Ideally, either, you know, during or dealing with after some kind of nuclear event. I like this idea very much. possibilities there. Great. I can't just keep doing end of the world films, because you guys probably wouldn't let me so I get put a new word. What do they all have in common? I want to thank everybody for liking and sharing posts for participating in the value for value model, all of that stuff. Really, really appreciate all of that. I also want to mention that shortly, I will have a website popping up that is written by kale young.com. And it has stuff that I've been working on and there's going to be a couple of chat books available there. All that stuff. I will say that we're running into just a few of things, getting that set up but I'm putting it out here to the people who want that that our listeners are interested in anything I've written or anything like that before, probably before the new chapbook infernal publishing goes on sale, you'll be able to just reach out to me via the strange aeons thing or through my own personal stuff on Facebook or whatever. And if you want I can I have like a very, very limited number of the original music Ballad of Eric Zhan chapbook, which was limited to 99 copies I have like less than 19 copies. And I will throw that and the new infernal combustion and a couple of stickers into an envelope and send that to you for like 20 bucks flat if you are interested in that. Full disclosure, there is a mass market paperback version of Ballad of Eric's on on Amazon right now. But this is the original one it comes in 45 slipcase and all that very cool. And by the way, I will save your butt just a little bit. If you want to shipped out of the US it won't be a flat $20 That's just save yourself that and in fact, United States mail only sorry guys. I don't feel don't feel comfortable. selling you something that I would sell for $6 and then charge you $15 and shipping I just nothing I do is worth that so you can't have it unless you really want and cannot contact me oh, I'll talk yeah okay, so I think that is the end of the show. We are going to be back in seven short days and we're talking nuclear disaster transportation other considerations for strange aeons radio produced by Pan Am airlines. When you think of traveling think of pan and you can't think the experience. Yes, the strange aeons radio stay at econolodge ever. It's an easy stop on the road. 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