THE OCTOBER COUNTRY!
Our celebration of Ray Bradbury Theater begins with this episode and goes all month! We start with the WGA/SAG strike and talk a little bit about The H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival, happening this weekend!
Also discussed: Gen V, Blue Beetle, Blood Harvest.
Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition such sites to show you strange aeons. Welcome to strange aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That is Vanessa over there. Hello, I'm Kelly. A couple of things before we get into this episode, guys. One is, by the time you're hearing this, I think tomorrow is the beginning of the HP Lovecraft Film Festival. Oh, yes. Which I am going to be I don't know if I'm a guest or not. I know that I'm on a panel. And part of my writing is in the home pod challenge from beyond book. Nice, which was really thrilled to be invited to do that. I also know because of this, that your anniversary is right around the corner, Vanessa? That's true. Oh, yeah, it is. Happy anniversary. Very much forgot. Wow. One year and it's out. Bloom is off the rose. I wanted to talk to you guys. The WGA strike appears to be over. Yeah, they're finalizing stuff right now. The sag the Screen Actors Guild is still on strike. And the WGA writers are not going to go back to work until that is finalized and figured out. So hopefully that happens pretty quickly. Reports are that for some reason. This. The WGA contracts were pushed through on this last weekend. And they were pushed through hard as if there was some reason, all of a sudden, for them to get this all done. They said that there were very important people from the studios working late on Sunday nights. Yeah. To to get this all done. And my question is, Where was this urgency five months ago? Yeah. Well, what happened? I am I was also very curious, because there were a lot of reports that you know, the head of all these major studios were like, fucking what? And they just were like, I'm from Disney. I'm from Netflix. I'm from so and so. And these people showed up to have the conversation and I'm like, what? And there was one lady who was in charge of the Union talks before this. And I'm like, what was her hold up? That she was like, not gonna move forward? That these guys were like, Screw you. We gotta go. And like, got up out of their very fancy homes and drove down. was representing the studio. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I heard that differently. But no, no, there end of it. So I'm wondering what on earth her hard line was that she was told to maintain? And keep them from getting whatever it is they wanted? The all of a sudden the studios were enticed enough to send their number one people. Yeah, to just be like, knocking on the door and be like, we cannot keep sitting here wasting money. So what was that? For? Sure. I think it's, I'm super curious. Christmas movies. There's a story here. I just wonder what it is? Yeah. I mean, they lost the amount of money that they would have, supposedly, you know, had to have spent on these writers within the first like, less than a month of the strike. So what on earth they were holding out for? I guess they just somebody out there really wanted a I rights or I don't know. But yeah, that's, that's gonna be still that's that's still what SE is fighting over is that idea of digitizing people's faces and only paying them once. Yeah, there is one thing that happened, where you cannot copyright A I. material. And that just happened this week. So I've already been decided. It's been one months ago, where they they're saying where you couldn't copyright? There's a new one stuff. Yeah, there's a new one from this week that I'd heard about. So I'm wondering if that was a big part of it. Like they realized they couldn't copyright AI. So they couldn't write? Yes. And then everybody to it. You couldn't you could you? You no longer have to be trans morphers. You could just be transformers. Yeah, because you can't put a copyright on that AI written script. Yes. I wonder that sounds like that sounds like the kind of thing that would lead to rain. Definite action. Yeah. How are they going to be able to tell? Oh, how could you not? Well, sure. Now, I guess From now, how are they going to be able to tell? I mean, I think that's what we're fighting over. Right? Well, that's, I guess that's what I'm saying. How will you be able to tell? I mean, every you know, I love my writer friends, I support you very much. You are a writer friend out there saying that AI couldn't write human stories. This last year has been full of shit movies that are all exactly the same. And I guarantee you AI can write that they can write Marvel movies. So difference would be you'd have to put if you're going to move to an AI writing thing that can't be copyrighted, you have to come up with a way to hide it, which means you have to probably under her center, well, or under paying a real person, right, say they wrote it? Well, no, I guess there's got to be. So that's an interesting thing. I was saying this, how is a corporation to know that Joe Schmo hasn't used AI to write the script that they love. Oh, I see that he pitched I mean, they that's going to be a tough one. Maybe. I mean, the thing that I was want to lean back on, especially for teaching and getting like papers from kids that, you know, are AI generated? Just pencil and paper. Yo, that's freehand writing freehand. Right, it seems seems very, very simple. There's my writing. I've got my pen and my paper here. And I'll just write this out on pen and paper, you go. Work, I think creative studio head that has to read any of Eric's writing. Oh, God, no, you can't. It has to be timed. It's just not gonna happen. But the other thing is that copy. There's also yeah, there's also as AI advances, there's also advanced AI detectors that you can plug right into it. And it's a this is an 80% probability, it's aI written, which, of course, at this point isn't very accurate, because it does it to like 70% ai writing well, I wrote this entire thing myself. Well, and you know, the thing that nobody wants to say, and probably I'll get smacked for saying is, you know, for the for the actors is a studio could put a sign up at a Starbucks and says, come on down here, we'll charge you 150 bucks, we'll take your face, and we're gonna put it in a bunch of movies will give you tickets to the first one for free. And people will line up around the block and pay the studio's 150 bucks to have their faces digitized and put into a bunch of movies. Let's share I mean, the perfect example is our own experience of what it's like shooting a film in a city that's not a film city. Everybody opens their doors to you. Yeah, they'll let you use their house for free. And, and that's obviously in LA or New York, that is not going to happen, you're going to have to pay a shitload to use anybody's house for anything, right? But up here, nobody cares. So there's all this is just fun and exciting. And the background extras, unfortunately, which I think is a good skill that a lot of people do some neat shit with. But I don't think the studio's care about that. Right. Yeah, there's a really good thing I read recently about one of the guys who is in power rangers. He was like, some face some digitized face or something. And he came in one day, they paid him like 100 150 bucks, something really small. He acted, and then he ended up being in hundreds of episodes that they used his likeness. Oh, so I think that this conversation is the entire purpose of a union. Because yes, in my industry, it's the same way for editing. There are people out there who will take 20 bucks, you know, they'll take, you know, what's the minimum wage an hour, and that undermines everybody down the line. And so there's a lot of pressure when you get into the industry to be like, No, you have to charge your worth. Because otherwise you screw the rest of us over. And that's sort of the purpose I would think of a union to prevent that desperation from ruling the entire fiver I think it's called or something like that. Yeah. Where people put up whatever they want to do and charge whatever they want. Yeah. Fives them starting amount, you get what you pay for. But yeah, I mean, we do have a list. We do have a listener who many of you know comments on the YouTubes a lot, who has done years and years of background work and walk on extra so I'm curious what he's gonna say about this episode. Is that real badger? Yeah, yeah. Okay, well, I want to see his stuff. I went through and read a bunch of posts on the YouTube things just recently and liked them and literally liked them. Thumbs up, thumbs up like so. Yeah. So like, I bet copyright thing to me. I think you hit on One of the key things for the WGA though, I think that that was the thing that because I was sitting around thinking the exact same thing you were Kelly, where I was like, what is it? Why did these guys move forward? What was what was this fire about? And it can't be. I mean, it could be Christmas, but I that's coming on. So late to, for most studios to go into production. Yeah, muster. We're ready to go and stop. Yeah, I don't think it's just AI generated. I think it was even AI generated with a certain amount of like alteration, and also not copyrightable and would also indicate what you're talking about why they waited. Because fake news this court case was coming up. Yeah, they were waiting to see what happened with him. And certainly what the way they didn't want to they say okay, let's finish it. Okay, well, that that makes sense. I was on. I'm on the latest episode of The CZ media podcast, which was recorded about a month ago and we talked about the strike. And I remember telling Carlos Hey, put this out immediately. Because you know, the strike could end tomorrow. So it's, it's out now after the strike has ended came out what like the day after? Because I sent him a note saying, you waited too long, buddy. Yeah, if anyone if any of our listeners out there narrow more about this. I would love to hear other theories and ideas, too. Yeah, yeah. Watch the YouTube but real bachelor have something interesting to say? Not very cool. You guys say watch some movies? What? Oh, yeah. Shocking information. Should we get into Blue Beetle? Because I think Vanessa, you and I have a oh, here we do. Yeah, I use all fluviatile Blue Beetle, and I thought it was cookie cutter. Fine. But it could have been so much, so much better. There. I do see your point. I think that there are places it could have been way tighter. He spends a long time in that suit being flailing around not knowing what's which, which would have been a lot of fun if we didn't have three Iron Man movies. Yes. Unfortunately. I will say it's I think it's very cookie cutter good for a Marvel movie, I think for a DC movie is very good. Well, it certainly wasn't grim and gritty, right? It wasn't. There was characters I cared about. There was humor in it. Just overall, I thought, you know, I understand there are people out there saying representation matters. But shouldn't it not just be I just want more Latino actors getting roles and to be let's give them amazing roles so that people go, Oh, holy cow, we've we've been sitting on a goldmine of talent that we didn't realize, I think that's the hope. You know, I think that's probably the intention. But not every piece is going to be as good as even when you see the script. You know, like when you see the final result. Sometimes it's like, Oh, I thought the movie I was going to be in was going to be amazing. Yeah. But it feels so much flatter than I. Yeah. I mean, I also have no clear concept clearly of who like how well this represented, like South American culture, and whether or not this actually well, home represents South American culture. It's a generic because DC never takes place in a world with our cities. Yeah, this was kind of generic. Florida. Yes. You know, Hispanic speaking American city. I yeah, I meant culturally rather than. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. I don't know, because I felt like the theater that I was at happen to be really filled to the brim with families that were, you know, Hispanic, Mexican, you know, all like cheering and excited and engaged in participating. But then it sounds like other people didn't have that experience. And if it didn't financially hit, then, you know, if there's questions, it's like, Okay, what did we do right with Asian cinema in the last 510 years, that we're not doing right with other cultures? You know, what are we doing right with black actors and getting them infused into incredible content that we're not getting? I think the answer to that is really obvious. I don't know it was Blue Beetle written by Latino filmmakers. I thought it was particularly nice that it was a couple of white writers that a white director, it could be I mean, I thought it was but I have no idea. Real concept because I would say that the the Asian cinemas were getting Asian people creating the film so the director was Puerto Rican, Puerto Rican, okay, which makes sense because the high actress was Puerto Rican. I believe the hot actress said the Data. Yeah, Ted Kord. Yeah, I was just, I have no idea about the writer. Of course, sir. That sounds Hispanic to me. The, I guess the reason I say this is because something like 30 coins is, is just amazing, right? And it's it's cast with Latino actors. And Written and directed by I mean, it's made down. Well, it's Spanish, right. So that, but that's my point. It's got a very definite look, feel a cultural feel to it. Right? It is. But it is from there. It isn't. It is, Cree, we bought it and are showing it on HBO here. But interesting. Yeah. But I'm saying what makes us so strong is it's so authentic. It is its authenticity, right, which I did not see in this film, right? No, you're you're right, like there's a gap. And there's a bigger, the gap gets bigger and bigger and bigger, the more people need to make money off of that film. Sure. And I feel like that's why we get things like Jordan Peele having incredible work because he starts so small. And he gets a smaller piece of pie, and then a slightly bigger piece of pie and a slightly bigger piece of pie. And then they're like, and here's a big piece of pie. You gave us money back. Yay. So I feel like we're there's a weird, like reward system test test reward. It's part of a overall problem with Hollywood as a whole right now is 70s 80s 90s, you had $1 million movies yet 100 million dollars movies, and yet 30 million movies, that middle ground is virtually disappeared. Yeah. And that middle ground was where experimental ideas of something different than what Hollywood is played, and came out and interesting things that Hollywood wouldn't have made. Because they have to do what they did with blue betta, which is genericized it a little bit make it a little more generic and what we're doing this, but we don't want to do too much of that. So we got to make because we got to make our $400 million, or whatever they spent on that back. So that's why we need that middle ground. Back from studios that can still afford to pay a$30 million. Yeah, fell. This is one of the things I spoke to Carlos about on his podcast was, it's so unfair to these movies, because they've got, you know, a $400 million budget, which means they've got to make a billion dollars. And that puts way too much pressure on the actors, the director, the writer too, you know, because that's what's going to get blamed when it doesn't make a billion dollars. But we are all so tired of these kinds of movies that why would anyone think they could still make a billion dollars? Yeah, you're so right when you've got films that should be knocking out of the ballpark, but can't how on earth are you going to get ones with like a new hero with a new face with you know, a specific lien and bent to it that also costed bucket of money? How on earth are they going to make it back? It's yeah, it's ludicrous. It makes me wonder. I mean, there's just so much talk about James Gunn's new DC stuff and it's like well Can he even do it I know that they're bringing in you know Superman it's gonna be really sad of Superman can't bring in a lot of people but I think people might be tired of Superman quite honestly. If he's perfect, yeah. Or if he's gritty and not Superman. You know, I have high hopes for the the creature commandos thing, but that's going to be a cartoon, and it's going to be fun, and it's probably will be better than most DC. Well, the funny thing is, yeah, like we were all excited for James Gunn, but who was excited for James Gunn Suicide Squad and actually attended. You know, like, that didn't that wasn't a financial success was I think it was a financial success, but it wasn't a hit. Right. It was, I think, mostly what they were looking at was the people actually the people who went to see the movie liked the movie, right? Yeah. And so they were like, Oh, this guy must know what he's doing. Well, he made so much for Marvel. I mean, like he he got guardians as one of the most beloved Marvel series, but you know, when he was doing anything else, like he was still no one was like, Yeah, James God. It's just, it's weird. It's gonna be an interesting yeah, me interesting. I need to find the person in the middle. There. Right now Hollywood's largely run by a bunch of people who don't give a shit about anything other than like, stock prices and stuff like that. And then you got James Gunn, who is a very artistic person Yeah, very creative. Yeah. So you need that person that kind of sits in the middle that loves movies and wants to make really good movies, but also understands it is a business. And there doesn't seem to be any of that middle ground sitting up in those high offices and stuff like that. It's all it is all. We are all bankers. Doesn't matter what our business is, or just bankers. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Good point. Blue Beetle. Thumbs down for me. All right, well, now this is something we're gonna get into a lot more next week. But I just got back. I'm very tired from fantastic mass, where I saw 17 movies in four days. Yeah. So. So I'm just going to briefly mention some of the really big ones that I saw that people are probably buzzing about and talking all kinds right now. So I'll start off with the secret film, I only managed to get into one because you still have to this sort of lottery system where you get up at 10am Or in my case, 958. Clicking on the sign No, no, no, I'm sorry. I was up already. But I was clicking the button at 958 I managed to actually finally get it for the last day one of the secret seat screenings which are incredibly difficult to get into. And I was so hyped because all the other Secret Screening movies were made. And I got there. And the movie, the guy comes out and a little doll on a fucking tricycle on his face. Wheels his way around behind the speaker. And I went no, no, no. But you stayed and watched sa X film prequel to the whole franchise of which I have seen one all the way through. She's the first one the first one of course, one nail. I haven't made this clear on the show before. I am not a torture porn person. And I have tried to watch various elements of torture porn movies. And I have always been like this is not for me. And so I'm like I first of all, I don't know anything about the assault mythos. I don't know what the fuck the little tricycle guys I don't know the story of the lady with the pig head aside from Dead by Daylight video game plays I am greatly lost on the dude whoever I don't remember his name but the saw man who creates the rooms please tell them Bell. No idea who he is. So this is the this is all about Tobin Bell this movie. It's about it's really gross. Of course. It's torture porn, of course. And the first half of it. They're like, you like saw you like fucked up shit. Here's some fucked up shit to stare at for no reason. Nice, nice. And then the pivot because it's a prequel. And they're like, We gotta make this guy real sympathetic. And he's gonna kind of be the hero that you root for. And that is a big ask. A really big ask when you've seen him do the crap he's done. I was like, Why do you think I'm gonna like this man? How very Rob Zombie of them. I was incredibly so it was not a great movie. It was made much worse. So by being part of a system of films that I fucking hate in poor oh my god, my husband was sat there next to me and he was having such a good time. telling me how we're gonna get the box set and watch them all through so I would know. And then we watched this movie and his dreams are dead. They are well and truly dead. I was like, I have not seen another one. He's fucking No fucking way. I need a plot. I need a reason that I'm sitting here. I will watch somebody's eyes get eaten out by whatever, you know toxic bleach fumes. But I need to know why. Like I have to it can't just be for the sake of watching what would happen if I already have a mind palace of nightmares. You do not need to add to them. I am a creative depressed poor person. I don't need this to be added. So I will not watch it unless there's a good reason. That's that's pretty disappointing to me because I thought that what was that one with Chris Rock saw spiral or sometimes called spiral. I thought okay, they're going in a different direction with this now they're gonna try to but it sounds like they did not with his new movie what they're doing. I mean, I don't know because I haven't seen them all. But what the people the producers who talked afterwards said is they want to set up the option to be able to follow other people and other characters that are not part of the initial like they're creating new hollowing out three yeah I do they're trying to create networks and paths have been like oh what happened to this person and what happened to this other you know the pig face chick like how does she get into this and like what about this Mexican division have it like what does that stand for? So I think they want to open more doors which is why they did this. Yeah, but to me I was just like this fucking stupid movie. You're not into this whole saw Expanded Universe? Sure. I'm not I've seen one fine carry Oh, US I will watch in a heartbeat. them but to be honest, I have absolutely no idea which ones I've seen other than the first one because they just mesh together. Dried glob of movie. Yeah, I remember there was like, some drunk chick in so they threw in a pit of needles. Ooh, like great. Cool. This is definitely cinema on any level. I'm not just like a person back in the you know, in Rome watching somebody get eaten by a lion for entertainment like this is this that is what it is to me. And that is great for a lot of people. And I'm really glad that it exists for them. But for me, it is not. You know, I really love it. When snarky offended Vanessa shows. Those interesting what do you see her? You could probably watch the one I watched. But you might hate it, too. Oh, God. We're still in the Bronzo world with some of these guys for my 100 days. The deadly spot? Oh, I like this. This one's freaking great. Actually. Yeah, this so far, the de Bronzo recommendations have actually been what I would call really good bad movies. Where they're entertaining. Some of them are bordering on actually being a good movie. But there's major shit holding me back from getting there. Right? Like this one without the spawn. You're talking about a fairly generic nothing movie. But yeah, the effects are so fun and the creatures so batshit crazy. Yes, that it just makes the whole movie worth watching. It's it's actually quite entertaining because of that. So I think he did fine with that one. I don't have any rants or any extended thing to talk about after Blue Beetle and saw x. Well, random vowed to Bronzo taking over 100 movie things it's always nice to sure new content. I'll ignore this list I've got for letterbox that I've had for 10 years start watching these random news but aren't new at all. Oh guys, which I should read will allow sent me a review of what's the the new AI movie. Although on the whole the kid with the whole image? Creator, he's a creator. Did you get to see them? Oh, I won't say anything. I'll tell you. What we'll set after you talk about it. I want to talk about Gen V. spin off show this this three episodes out now. By the time you hear this, maybe four? Ah, it is you know it's a spin off of the boys. Okay. Yeah. And it's everything that the boys has in it. Okay, there is. I mean, I hope you like full frontal male nudity. Like it's a strange word, but it's it's very prevalent nowadays. There is a scene of a very, very large penis. Very large balls. Lots of hair on those balls. I hope that you're into that. I'm looking at you, Vanessa. Eric is Yeah. I'll say this. I laughed. Okay, good. You should it's that kind of movie. It's also very dark and depressing. It's just one of those things where you're just like, Well, I gotta laugh. Because otherwise, what the fuck am I doing with this? dark humor, very black humor. Do you think that there's like, did they have a good enough reason to do that? I think Well, the reason is it is a spin off of a show that has very black humor. So that is the universe that this show inhabits a a bleak universe of superheroes who are not very heroic. Is it from the original? Is it Garth Ennis stuff? Or is it more from the show itself? Well, remember the boys. The boys ran for like 100 years some issues and what it wasn't always about just the group of superheroes and it wasn't always about the boys either. It had kind of a spin off where they would go to that, that Teen Titans things like that. that takes place in a university after the world has now realized that the reason they have superheroes is because of that Gen v. And so the kids in this universe are those kids. So everybody's got some kind of superpower. Some of them are really lame superpowers, some of them really gross superpowers. And it's dealing with that, you know, from this university comes people who, you know, superpower people who the the high point will be you get enlisted into the seventh or one of the other super teams, but they're also they've also got a dramatic arts program so you could become a superpowered actor or spokesperson or whatever. It really deals with, you know, the politics and, and complexities of university life. That gives me the weirdest flashback of reading. I don't know if you've ever read much Pierce Anthony. But he did this series called The xantham novels, where everybody has a magic power, right? And then there's the poor gaze magic powers putting a spot on the wall. Yeah, I would say if you like the boys, you're gonna like Gen V. Oh, well, um, gosh. Well, I can definitely talk about the Creator. I was gonna mention. Toxic Avenger. But I don't think it would take very much time. mentioned on both. All right, all right. I'll mention them both. Just because it's hot off the press guys. Toxic Avenger. Just really quick. Not terrible. Not incredible. What are your thoughts on the original? I've never seen. And I'm also not like a big trauma person. So I feel like I know Weird, huh? I feel like it was kind of lost on me. And fortunately, there's a lot of humor in there that I'm I don't find anything funny. So I was like, oh, cool, great. I'm sure this is funny for other people. And I'm glad for them. I love that somebody who hates humor, so much could be so damn funny. Did did the audience seem to enjoy it? You know, I feel like it was a real mixed bag. Because again, there are people who are obsessed with the original, who are going to find this bland or middling or depressing or like why did they even try what they've been doing? And there are other people who are just like, yes, this universe has been opened up and they're really playing with it. And they're really like the guy who runs Trump can't remember his name now. In it, so he obviously gave his blessing. Okay. Yeah. So any of that kind of like, well, I didn't sign off on it. Oh, yes. Oh, it was a trauma production think it is a trauma production, but my understanding initially was that it wasn't okay. So, Lloyd Kaufman will show up anywhere at any time. That's, yeah, he I have no problem believing. Oh, you want to do a remake shirt? Great. What are we doing? signed off? That'd be good. I have a script. Yes. Maybe I should read mas good go. Where's the check is really good. I will say like, despite it maybe not working great. For me personally, the acting in it, I thought was really strong. I think Peter Dinklage did an awesome job. I think he really killed it. And there's a couple other actors in there that are great, too. So. So then I'll just quickly switch gears over to creator, which is another highly anticipated movie that's probably going to be out by the time we even talk about this. A lot of this stuff is like hot on the heels of just national release. I very much liked it. I really enjoy. I mean, I'm a big sci fi nerd. I thought it was a really beautiful story. Not only was it well told, but I think visually very stunning. Maybe simple, maybe maybe a little bit obvious at times. Take just from the trailer is AI is gonna be fine as long as a cute little kid and we all want to protect it because it's adorable little kid. That's AI how it will take us all over. Not looking like Terminator. But looking like this Good kid that we all wanted to say. Well, this is definitely one of those films that it spends a lot of time going. Well, you think AI is bad, but maybe people are there real monsters? It's one of ours. Yeah, so it's gonna be a little paint by numbers in that department. Sure. Well, stocks, would you would you like to hear what we all thought about it? Oh, sure. Well, I hope it's okay the time reading your text to me. Let us know why Kelly bad movie alert. Oh, no. Just saw the creator and came out of the theater livid which, there we go. Love it. Thank you. He says pretentious, lofty, heavy handed uncharismatic leads poorly scripted corny as hell with an annoying kid. It was a whole lot of nothing. And so every sci fi movie trope you've seen I feel cheated. Okay, well, I had to have to say if you saw the trailer for that and thought you were Getting something really unique, unique? Yeah. Okay, sure you had high expectations that were not warranted. I want will to co host an episode will and I should do a podcast together. We can be livid and furious at the same time. No one loves anything more than listening to two dudes rant about shame. Remember, he's got a lovely British accent. They'd Listen, no problem. There you go. That does help. It's true. Well, okay, yeah. Well, this is not I sadly moved off of the Bronzo representative recommendations for this one crapped out hard. 2023 movies, it seems like, there's some really good movies coming out in 2023. But there's not a lot. It's like I'm looking through going well, not always 2022. No, that's 2021 Oh, 2023 blood harvest. It's very low budget, which I don't have a problem with. The actors were working really hard. And actually, we're not terrible. But the script was like newsy. And somebody had an idea. It's like, there's a chicken thing connected with it. I'm not getting bothered for you that. So through 70% of the movie, there's this fucking clicking noise going on. And I don't know if I was listening on headphones. So that probably enhanced the joy of this extra noise. No, no, this was not for me. I don't. I don't think I even finished watching and I'm not sure. If I did it. Probably. I might have been asleep. That sound was so bad. There, like I said, the acting was good. It was decently shot for the low budget ad it had like, Come on, get it together, get click, click, click that, but this is part of your hashtag 100 days of horror. Yes. If I do my math correctly, you've got to be about 70 movies into somewhere in the 60s. I'll say okay, we'll see how it goes here. In the end. I will probably clocked in a couple at least in this upcoming weekend. Okay, and I may have to actually go to some movies at the Lovecraft festival. Good point, point for you to attend Fantastic Fest. Done a whole slew of all I have a sidebar on that. I understand this is I'm of two minds with big big festivals like that. I understand the need to sell tickets. But I find it frustrating that a festival that has so much power and so much range is doing creator. Because everybody knows that film. This isn't a movie that has no budget multiplexes everywhere. I mean, it's Toxic Avenger sits in the middle. Okay, I can see that one because you're still talking about Lloyd Kaufman and a lesser known worldwide lesser known toxic venture isn't really well known, but sought X creator. These are movies with hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising budgets behind them. I'd rather Fantastic Fest sound, the unusual, fantastic movies, but then they probably go, well we show these big movies and we get people to come in, and then they'll go watch our more unusual films, which, if that's true, great. So there are 10 screenings. There are 10 screens showing films that every block and there's five blocks throughout the day, the creator was playing against probably two or three other independent movies. They are which of those four screens had the most people well you can only they will all fill. So you will get in a lottery and you will try to get into one and if you don't get in that you'll go into a different one. So okay, yeah, I actually sigh crazy ton of independent films and in their shorts that are lined up with all the stuff too they actually I will say just for their credit they did a very good job of getting in weird little known indie budget no budget strange things that I didn't expect so I agree with you I'm not entirely sure why I was forced to watch thought acts. Really? Well. Sounds like your husband was that reason? Well, no, it was The Secret Screening so I was hopeful that it was going to be something freaking awesome like I don't know when Nick Cage movie where he's in everybody's dreams or dog man or one of the other cool ones that they showed but no I got fucking saw X. I'm guessing there's some kind of weird promotional thing or some kind of like oh yeah, we've got the hype. Now we can talk about creator and they get cred because they were playing it fantastic because I'm sure there's a weird handshake deal in there. But they are doing a really good job of making you see other weird off the ball interesting content. Yeah. Well, let's save that. For the next episode, yes. Okay. How about we take a little break then and when we come back we're gonna be talking Ray Bradbury theater get out of bed every morning I step on a landmine, that's me, I explode. And then I spent the rest of the day putting myself back together. Fahrenheit was an outgrowth of my knowing about Hitler's burning of the books and Germany in 1934. And other times, and that thought of all that very precious knowledge being burned. It's really terrible to me. I'm one of those impulsive writers, who as soon as he gets an idea, writes it within the next hour, I never you lay it's very important to be emotional and have fun with it. And everything we've done the last 50,000 years. It's science fiction, which changes overnight into reality. But we've never labeled it that way. between here and the end of the century. 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And we have returned, guys, this is our first episode of the October country, which means we're going to be watching episodes of Ray Bradbury theater all month long and discussing that. Yeah. When I had this idea, I hadn't really watched any of the Ray Bradbury over a long time. And I was a little surprised, as you were saying, Vanessa, the quality of some of it. It's a little surprising. It was HBO right? It was HBO Well, I actually have a little information here. Bradbury theater is an anthology series that ran for three seasons on first choice super channel in Canada and HBO in the United States from 85 to 86. And then on USA Network for four additional seasons from 88 to 92. What I thought was so interesting about this is that all 65 episodes were written by Ray Bradbury and based on his short stories, so you know let's see how it goes. Well, first of all, like right off the bat, you're you're looking at that old television aspect ratio. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot. We all looked at boxes for so long. Get all squares. I'll start the buzzer but I don't think we'll really need it because these are short episodes. I will say I'm spoiling the heck out of my stories because they're old stories. If you're familiar with Ray Bradbury, you're familiar with all these stories. Everybody okay with that? A okay. Oh, okay. Hold on. Is that different than what you normally do? Yes, I just do what I want. I'm out of control. I chose for my first one from season four episode three. The lake people ask, where do you get your ideas? Right here. All this is mine. I'll never starve here. I'm Ray Bradbury. And this is the long hot summers of childhood surround me and photos taken along the shores of Lake Michigan. Looking at them many years ago I remembered when I built impossible cities out of sand and dust covered, the lake could be a sorrow, as well as a joy. When I finished writing this story at the age 22, I was in tears and knew that it last I had become a writer. July 1989 This was directed by Pat Robbins, who has three directing credits. But our main job is script supervisor and continuity and she did stuff like the Lord of the Rings, movies Krampus, things like that. So her, her career took off with script supervisor kind of anybody's beard changed at length. Her fault. That's right. That whole series. This stars Gordon Thompson 56 credits, including episodes of every single TV series in the 1980s, but also 183 episodes of Dynasty 360 episodes of Santa Barbara, and 226 episodes of Sunset Beach. It also stars Tina Regine was 17 credits, including diagnosis death, secondhand wedding and dead alive. Okay. We meet Douglas and Margaret newly married and apparently Douglas is driving her around his childhood hometown for the first time showing her as old hangouts and such. Douglas is an artist and he has a sadness about him. And when Margaret sees a lake in through a clearing of trees, she's like, what you never told me about the lake and she runs down there and he follows behind, obviously troubled. What follows is a series of flashbacks to Douglas as a boy of 10. Building a sandcastle on the edge of the shore. This shitty little bully dude runs through his sandcastle and breaks it. And then a cute little girl shows up and tells him not to worry about it. She'll help him rebuild it, she'll build half and he'll build half. Oh, her name is Sally. And she is visiting the area with her mom. The place seems kind of like it's a like it's a tourist destination thing. They don't really do a good job of showing that part of it. But we know that she's going to be heading home at the end of the summer and all that. Over the course of the summer. We see that these two kids become best friends and we've learned a few things. One is Talley loves being in the water. She feels completely at home swimming in the lake and to Douglas cannot swim and is actually scared of being in the lake. So throughout the summer, Douglas is happy to build sandcastles with tally, she builds half and he builds. And then she'll go for a swim and beg and cajole him to join her in the water, but he always resists. At one point, he even says water hates people, which seems a little extreme. But Ray Bradbury. Douglas is very sad that she'll be going home soon, but she tells him that she'll be back next summer and she'll be there every summer. On her last day, they build another sandcastle together and she decides to go swimming one last time before they have to pack and go home. And then of course, she disappears in the water and never comes back up. Her mom is freaking out on the shore and screaming, telling Douglas to do something. But he's he's like, I can't swim. And realistically, he's only 10 What is he supposed to do? There are a couple of lifeguards and they go diving to try and find her and they never do. But if I'm kind of like watching this going, Mom, get in there and fucking water. Jump in there, your hair will get wet. Exactly. Distraught, Douglas destroys the sand castle they had just built together and we could tell his childhood is basically over. But in the present day, so he's having this memory, you know, the memory lines. And he comes back and he looks down the beach and he sees a sand castle down there and he asked Margaret to excuse him and he goes walking towards it. When he gets to it, he sees it as half of a sandcastle. And there are footsteps coming from the water to the castle and then back to the water, but nothing else. Just then a tiny fishing boat pulls up to the dock and the fisherman looks very depressed and explains that he just found the body of a young girl who had drowned in the lake. And of course Douglas sees the hand and the hair and realizes that it's Talleys body not decomposed or anything. It's just like it took him coming back for her body to be found creepy. The end of the episode is it's a depressing and melancholy story. But in spite of some cringy acting by the adults, I thought it was very moving. This story is in OKT Over country, although it was originally printed in the May 1944 issue of weird tales, I remember being moved by this story as a kid, when I first read it, but also really moved because Bradbury said that he cried after writing it, and felt it was the finest story he'd written by that point in time and that he felt like he was finally a writer. That affected me a lot as a young writer, because I don't know that I've ever felt like I was a writer. And I certainly never cried at any of the things I've written. This was Bradbury's first solo story. He had co written the story before this. But this was his first solo story that he sold. He sold it for $13.75. Now he was 22 and became a full time writer by the age of 24. Well, the quality on this is pretty bad. I'm curious. Why, like why I have to watch this on free V. This was a HBO show. Why can't I watch it on max? Why hasn't it been preserved a little better? Yeah. I don't know. I liked it. I have some extra time. So I have a little piece of I've printed out just general trivia that we can all take from. So I'm going to just read one of the general pieces of trivia I have. Bradbury lived in his parents home until he was 27 years old and married. Yeah did. His wife was a Margaret mccluer from 1947 until her death in 2003. Maggie, as she was affectionately called, was the only woman he ever dated. They had four daughters, Susan Ramona Bettina, and Alexandra Bradbury never obtained a driver's license, but relied on public transportation or his bicycle. Wow. Yep. It's all coming together on turning off the buzzer. For a second, there's like a buzzer can turn itself on now. It was like I have to buzz extra long since you guys aren't talking as long about these episodes. I will say this I was moved by this by this adaptation, but it's not as strong as the story at all. You know, and I get you got 30 minutes to do that all these episodes are only 30 minutes long. But I feel like the story is so much in the narrator's head that this was a weird one to even try to adapt obviously Bradbury loves this story so much that he was like I got to put this in and you know, Vanessa, you want to go next? Yeah, absolutely. Don't forget to set a timer timer for me. It will definitely take me 10 minutes you go over 10 minutes so I went with one that you guys actually suggested for me and I'm pretty stoked about it. The town where no one got off Wow, wow. Last time, anywhere, everywhere. Hogtown iron Ville, Wooster false look at all those names. Hard to decide. So that's why I got all them crazy ideas. Yes, blind faith by collecting train schedules, signal lights, train tracks, switches, collect them all up, write them down and what's coming down the track might be old 99. It might be a story. This is from season one. It's episode four and I watched the streaming on peacock which is Good because that meant there were no commercials there were just random black fades and outs. Yes. Beautiful. Um, you know, before I get in that, directed by Don Nick Riri T was 83 credits to his name. He did two episodes of Ray Bradbury theater. He actually started doing a lot of TV directing in the 80s. And now does massive quantities of Hallmark films including Christmas in love, pride, prejudice, and mistletoe, boyfriends of crest. And jingle bell princess. Did you say he's got 83 directing credits? Good luck large. Most of them seem to be homework associated they pay the bills. Before that he did 10 episodes of Murdoch murders and 13 of Aven Lea. This is of course written by Ray Bradbury, who has 120 writing credits. Of course, these are mostly based on pieces. And Mark Messari has a co writing credit on this he has three credits whose name this That's Hollywood, an episode of the TV series and emergency and episode of a TV series. I don't think Bradbury chose to work with a lot of CO writers much after season one I didn't realize that he did it all. I'm shocked he would bother. This is starring Ray Bradbury is the narrator he has for acting credits whose name including Halloween tree one of my favorite American Playhouse and rich and famous as literary party guest. He also stars Jeff Goldbloom as Cogswell 144 credits whose name including Jurassic Park the fly Independence Day the Thor films as Grandmaster now a lot of Wes Anderson movies for some reason 24 episodes of Law and Order Criminal Intent I did not no Invasion of the Body Snatchers and The Big Chill. Also in it edit McNamara as old man 66 credits to his name including the Black Stallion, Silver Streak Bo and 102 episodes of scarlet Hill. He also did five episodes of various voices in the 60s animated Spider Man Show. So we start in such an interesting way. We got Mr. Bradbury in his office with some long paint like wide leg pants walking through Where do my ideas come from? This messy fucking office of hell? Lucia that was his real office. That is his real office. Oh my god, sir. Okay, I mean, I guess if I just put every random trinket I have on like a chair or on a you know, for headlamp or whatever. On the floor, then I guess that's where my ideas would come from to ganttic to office like a he took over a section of his home. And this guy. He should not be in showing his show. He's like such a dork. I mean, look like more power to him. And they're trying to do a Hitchcock thing for sure. He's like, in this really unflattering sweater vest and he cannot speak out loud at a camera in a way that makes me want to watch him i He looks like a fucking nerd. I totally see why he was living with his parents for a long time and then got married. The first girl I dated. He shares in crazy great talent and we are so lucky to have him but man do not put this man on screen. And then they do it again. This mine and an appreciation of Ray Bradbury. But look, okay, we're not gonna see him a tons through this whole thing. But in this season one I don't know if this will be true for other Season One episodes. He then starts the whole show by having another skit where he's at a train station with a bunch of fog. And he's walking around and he goes I collect things first blah blah blah the train guy and what is out here there's no train and then trains come down the tracks but it actually just sitting there on the tracks doing nothing. And the attendant goes why that shouldn't be the bla bla bla train. And Ray Bradbury turns the camera goes Am I not be but it might be a story. Yeah, feed to Jeff Goldblum staring out a window. I was like wow, we're alright cool. We're in it now. Is this going to happen every time it No, it does not. But what a magical moment. Jeff Goldblum is staring out the window watching his towns go by. He's talking to a businessman. And they started this kind of argument about the validity of small town life. Jeff Goldbloom aka Cogswell is like man the incredible things they get up to small town games and the heart and they all in there with each other and loving each other and great people, the people of America Salyers bubble and the guys like, you don't know No Often, but small towns be shit full of shit people and they're boring. And I dare you to stop at one of these small towns get off and I you should do it and he's like, No, I got stuff to do. And he's like, what? You're a writer, right? And he's like, No, you're a writer. And you're being this fantasyland about a small town life. You go you go and you do this. And he's like, Yeah, okay, I'll do it. So stops train gets out a random small town. Guess what? Town shit immediately is ignored by the train station guy who's tries to talk to him like, hey, where can I stay but and he's like, does not even look at him. He's like, Where can I? Where can I keep my stuff? But and he's like, over there in that random like door. Okay, cool. We'll see later. walks around town. Everyone is awful. People were like closing up the shops. Whenever he walks up near him, like, people are ignoring him. They won't talk to him. He tries to go to a place that says like, room for rent. He's like, hey, ma'am. I would like to rent your room. And she's like, it's rented. Like, this is not how you run a business. Okay, I don't know why you're doing that. It doesn't really make any sense why people are being not very nice to him. But one guy does start to follow him. In fact, he follows him from the front of the train station where he has been sitting on a chair. And eventually after hugs will gives up on trying to talk to people. He notices this dude, following him, he gets a little creeped out and finally talks to the man. And the guy's like, oh, yeah, small towns, you know, hey, why don't you get a drink with me in the spirit shed? And he's like, okay, cool. You fall in there. And the guys being nice to him. He's talking about this kind of the way that life is out there. And then he starts to tell him the story about how, you know, he retired a long time ago, and he decided he was going to sit and wait. And in fact, he's been waiting for Jeff Goldblum this whole time. 20 years for somebody to show up, because he has this idea in his head that maybe a perfect stranger will get off on a train and maybe that perfect stranger can be killed by him. In the shed. And Jeff Goldblum kind of stops and goes, You know what, we are similar people. Because I was sitting here in this train fantasizing about getting off at a random town and maybe just killing somebody, and how easy it would be. And he puts his hand in his pocket pretending like he's got a gun. Or maybe he does. It's hard to know. Cut too. We see Jeff getting back on the train and the old man gets back in his chair. Oh, my thoughts. Man. What it's a stressful episode. Age very badly, very badly. Everyone in this town fucking sucks. He must hate small towns. Ray Bradbury, you must have actually lived in a small town. Living in a small town where you don't conform to what everybody thinks you should. I don't know why that sounds familiar to me. That's not far off. As true as somebody who also grew up in a very small town. Yeah, absolutely. People kind of fall into their roles. And that's it for life. But I mean, it's like angry. It's like angry at these people. Um, it is hard to get a soda out of a machine back in the day. That's for sure. What you people did but Jesus fucking all weird. You're getting out of an icebox or some shit. That's trivia the town's name was Erawan which spells nowhere backwards. Oh, and the dialogue between Cosmo and the old man is almost word for word exactly as Brady Ray Bradbury had it in his short Oh wish list but this is based upon which I could not figure out what book it's in. But I'm hyper reading this one and I remember this episode I kind of liked this episode, because it's fun whimsical. It's one of them higher rated ones it is is it most lists what I did for Ray Bradbury reading is I just went to my digital library card and rented one that has like, hundreds though it'd be like an 800 page book physical form. I found the Cliff Notes version and I was like this day I say these mostly stores like for why am I reading this? I know I I also watched this episode. And I Yeah, every episode starts with the office. Yeah, but but Ray on the train stop. I was like, Oh no. Stop what you're doing. This is great acting. And he has a kind of a strange voice for ya start of a show. Yeah, gave me a lot of those. Guillermo del Toro Cabanon curiosity vibes. Like you know what? It's okay to just be creative. don't always have to try to do it. Alfred Hitchcock pulled off so well. It's it's also Jeff Goldblum. It's it's hard to remember Jeff Goldblum, in this period of time. This is prior to the fly. And he's he hasn't quite. He hasn't quite gotten his. His quirkiness down yet. Yeah. So he's still figuring himself out. But he's he's a, you know, cute young dude. Yeah. And that's great. The thing is, he would have, he would have killed this. If he had been the Jeff Goldblum that we know and love. Yeah, just had his little. And I was also thinking that I might want to stop and kill someone. Those kinds of deliveries going on. I think it would have made a much funnier episode. I agree a bit. You know, it's got a charm. It's got a real late 80s, early 90s charm to it. A lot of racism and sexism. Oh, man, the music is pretty rough. I was like, this is an episode of Are you afraid the dark music is pretty rough? Yes. Yeah. Eric, Tim. Alrighty. So mine was called the pedestrian tennis shoe to remind me of what the first nights of summer when as a boy I ran into pool grass, or later walking at night, being stopped by police who were suspicious of the only one walking for miles and miles. upset with this encounter with the law. What else could I do but write about shoes and night and walking as a criminal in some future year and a story called The pedestrian This is from 1989. And if you look on IMDb and Wikipedia, this is season three episode five. If you look on, peacock or Google search, this is season four episode five were wildly all over the place. And then you said I think it was only supposed to be three seasons in its original run out of Canada. They've when you talk about the trivia or something like that. You just say it's three seasons six? Well it's six seasons total it was three seasons on HBO and then three seasons on on USA that makes more sense. Also why there be commercial breaks? Yes. The commercial breaks because didn't the tower no one got off him? Yeah, it goes to show I don't know as good as well. This was directed by Alan Ballinger. This is the only thing he's directed however, he's got over 72 productions as dp or camera operator including some little films. Well, one of my obscure favorites forgotten silver. Oh, nice. Heavenly Creatures. Oh, see a fame here. And The Frighteners and second unit DP for the Lord of the Rings movies. So voice over work is the narrator for your beauty in the beasts later in the lady in the water. 172 credits most narration the other actor ended his grant Tilly, whose day dangerous orphans warm night on a slow moving train. Sounds like a weird porno movie. of night. Stick Edlund is a narrator for Power Rangers, Dino Charge, and even more power rangers and Matt Murphy who's the garden? Who was the guitar player for the Blues Brothers. Oh, remember the guy who was with when they go to the restaurant to pull that one guy. That's that guy. Okay, this opens up that regular narration called man I've seen that elevator in a lot of movies. It looks so familiar. The film for this one it starts off with this is Ray Bradbury going off on modern television and a variety of other things. Oh my gosh, is strong criticism of losing yourself to television. So there's some real, real strong parallels to modern world of the internet. The basic storyline is David are with us. Firstly, David is out for a walk at night. And he goes to his friend's house. And his friend is of course, enraptured by the television and doesn't necessarily want to go anyplace. Matter of fact, it sounds like he's not supposed to go anyplace. But David has brought him an entire outfit in black including quiet sneakers so they can go and walk around at night and not be seen. Again, you're getting and then another round of strong criticism of TV is unleashed by David. It's still fun to listen to because it's Ray Bradbury. It's very obviously Ray Bradbury writing differently these days. It's very flowery and very, really cool to listen to. And David just delivers it beautifully. So it really works. So then the idea basically is they just go outside, and they start looking around and they walk by people watching their TVs and a dog barks. And David said something to the effect that he understands we're at a place where maybe we're not supposed to be and he wishes he could be, which is why that dog is barking. And he also comments that they see like spotlights going around, it's like, Don't worry, there's only one helicopter patrolling our area, we should be safe. There aren't very many police left in the world or something, which is interesting as well, saying that, basically, everybody's been cowed out enough that they don't need a by television. Yeah, they don't need to have the cops out doing things. That is also an interesting take on what's going on big time in our world right now, especially with AI taking over where he complains about. You can't just call somebody to get information or to learn things. There's no real people around to help you anymore. As women, how was this written? They get caught. And then it's a very interesting back and forth between the helicopter asking them questions, and identifying them with absolutely no problem was like, look up at us. Okay, so and so at this height and this weight and this, all this stuff. And it's quite interesting and telling and well worth watching. I thought this one was actually I sounded like I started off on a very good note from what both of you have said, because, yeah, the production value is low. This helicopter is obviously a radio controlled little helicopter. But then it's supposed to be person sized. Some of it just could be the gravitas of David and his delivery here. He just nails every moment of wanting to be able to live in a world and just walk around at night and not be a big deal and not be a problem. And eat the grass, which is a strange little moment. But yeah, this one's damn near damn good. It's supposed to take place in the year 2053 No. So time is based of course on the short story by Ray Bradbury, first published in 1952 in the magazine of fantasy and science fiction story short story differs somewhat from the book in that are from the movie and there's only him there's only one character and he goes out wanders around and everything that happens happens but since it's all going on in his head, they needed somebody here deliver lines exactly and it works the adaptation works really well. I thought it was a very very solid interpretation of his own story which not all writers can do. Nailed it on this one they both have the same joke of the helicopter stops and what's your profession writer by profession and I also looked up because I was like I said it sounds like it started at the top of the mountain almost on this one but it's I'm looking at going is this available like you've got I've got three series of Night Gallery that's been remastered and put on Blu ray and all this shit out of print DVDs Oh, nobody's taking the time yet to dive in and really remaster this which I hope someone does just because Oh, are you telling me that the out of print DVDs is the quality that was watching? Yeah, I think that'd be my guess that's rough. Look like I mean, even like the remaster stuff that HBO shows like that Lovecraft. Oh, yeah, one that they went back and remastered and looks fan tastic HBO now. But please do not this don't vote for peacock one. Because I watched one episode on free TV before I realize they're also on peacock. So at the same time quality okay. I was hoping peacock would be a little better maybe? Yes. Yeah, they bought it or whatever showing it. But nope. The pedestrian I'm gonna watch that one. Yeah, that's awesome. Eric, you beat your time. Weird. How the hell do I pull that off? The shows are 24 minute episodes or something. Oh, I believe they're 26 The one I watched was clearly 24 All right, bye you I do have other trivia about Bradbury that I want to do a four more episodes or three more episodes? Yeah, yeah. Bradbury was a close friend of Charles Adams. And Adams illustrated the first of Bradbury stories about the Elliott's a family that resembled Adams own Addams Family. Oh cool place in rural Illinois. Bradbury's first story about them was homecoming, published in the 1946 Halloween issue of Mademoiselle and Adams illustrations accompany that. Adams and he planned a larger collaborative work that would tell the family's complete history, but it never materialized. And according to a 2001 interview, they went their separate ways. I saw that Homecoming was one of the episodes, so maybe I'll dig into that one. Okay, well, how do you guys feel about this? Is this fun? It's fun. It's nice to do something a little bit different. Yeah, no, I do wish the quality was low. I do too. I'm good with it first. Yeah, I mean, I don't know that this just feels you know, we're recording this on October 1, it has been a couple of spectacular autumn days here in the Pacific Northwest where, you know, you wake up and it's 43 degrees out and misty and foggy. And then by the end of the day, it's 70 degrees and sunny and the leaves are falling and all that I'm like, this is this feels like a good time to be watching this kind of stuff. It's nice to dig further into the broad burry first for me. Yeah, it really made me want to go back and read again, he was an author, I read extensively as a middle schooler. And I think that you'd almost look at this stuff and kind of think of it as young adult fiction, because so many of these protagonists are kids. But I remember, I remember yeah, getting older and I just stopped reading him for some reason. He started his day, for some reason I never read much of I think maybe he'd fallen into that assignment for school reading, thinking, Yes. And you know, when I got through that a couple of times, I read some amazing stuff. Or maybe teachers know what they're saying. That's it. Yeah. But the reading these stories, and the ones in that Kindle book I borrowed from the library are fantastic. Yeah. You can see where you have 44 decade plus career or whatever it was, and why so many, you know, contemporary authors list him as a huge influence on their own work. Okay, well, so that's the episode. 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