279 CHECK ONE OFF THE LIST!

279 CHECK ONE OFF THE LIST!
Kelly talks about his new favorite discovery, and then the gang gets into a spirited conversation about films on their "to watch" lists.
ALSO DISCUSSED: Axel F, Jaws, Broken Trail.

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Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition. We have such sights to show you strange eons. Welcome to strange eons. Radio. Somewhere over there is Eric, hello, and somewhere over here is Vanessa, hello. I'm Kelly. We are We are recording remotely because I had shit to do this weekend, and I really appreciate you guys pulling a solid for me. We're gonna have to do this again next week because I have a funeral to attend, which is always lovely. Yeah, it's okay. Those are good excuses. We only accept like three on a checklist, and you've hit two of them, so you're in. It's all good. I know I tried to use the masturbated too forcefully, and that was not a good excuse to get out of recording, and you only get it once. That's what I keep saying. Still a little drunk. Nope, sorry. We did two drunk episodes. Still doesn't count anymore. Exactly. Yes, memories. I have something to talk about that I just discovered, and I feel like I want everybody to know this is not a paid advertisement, but I stumbled onto this thing called Myers house, nc.com, as in Michael Myers house. Oh, okay, it is about a crazy dude who loved the Michael Myers well, he loved the Halloween movies, but when he was in his mid 20s, he went to LA, saw the Michael Myers house, and for some reason he was just like, I'm gonna build a replica of that in North Carolina. And then he did, which is fine, that's the beginning of the story. What his company does now is show films at the locations that those films took place in oh and Ouch. I just broke my finger. The reason I found this is because Friday, November 1, 2024 now November 1, because October 31 would be a Thursday, I guess, and they didn't want to do this, but they are showing Trick or treat. Now, if you know me, you know I love the movie Trick or treat, not the the trick or treat anthology that came out in the 2000s with the little Sam character with a pumpkin head. I'm talking about the good one that was heavy metal with Sammy Kerr and all that stuff. They are showing this film in Wilmington, North Carolina at the high school that the movie was shown at in the gymnasium. Whoa, that's a cool, yeah, and the admission is $40 there's a Halloween party and the movie screening, it's very cool. But then I decided to just kind of look and see what else they do, right? Listen to this fucking lineup you guys. Okay. July 13, Children of the Corn in Whiting, Iowa is sold out, so you can't go there, but that's where the majority of the film was shot, and they've got guests from the movie showing up and all that stuff. July 20, they're showing Twister in Guthrie, Oklahoma. August 3, the burning in ransomville, New York, is sold out. August, 5 and sixth, sleep away camp in Argyle, New York. All these are the locations where the majorities of the film are shown, and most of them have like guests. Some of them have the director showing up to talk about it. September, 7 and eighth is Halloween. Five and six in Salt Lake City, Utah, at the house that was the Myers house in those locations, September 13 through 15th, and 15th through 17th. That should be September 13 through 17th in my head, but Jason lives in Rutledge, Georgia. They're doing the Goonies in Astoria, Oregon. They're doing the shining in government camp, Oregon, which is location of the actual hotel that was shot for the interiors of Stanley, I think the Lost Boys in Santa Cruz, California, and then the mutilator, too, Eric. Wasn't that a movie you talked about in Atlantic Beach, urban legend and Black Christmas on November 16 in Toronto, Canada. And more events coming soon, and it's just so freaking cool. Yeah, Children of the Corn has Courtney Gaines showing up. You know, we've seen him a bunch of times. Molokai Salt Lake City at the Myers house slash strode house, uh. Um, and all of these are really affordable. Let's see, I just said that, and then I'm looking at this Halloween five. It's 115 bucks. Includes access to private property filming location, guided tour of the property, inside and outside the house, trick or treat candy apple cider and h6 movie screening. So they've got right right alongs and stuff like that. It's just such a cool idea. And I this is the first I've heard of it. It, I will remind you it is called Myers house, as in, Michael Myers m, y, E, R, S, house. Myers house, one word.com/onset cinema. But if you just go to Myers house north or NC, you will end up at this onset cinema thing that he's doing. So, oh, my God, that's mine Changeling, right. Okay, so you're looking this up, Eric, certainly not the other horror movie Washington State's known for. Which one would that be? The ring, Twilight or Twilight? Sure. I mean that far this game sounds like a real horror fan, so I imagine Twilight is not on his uh, menu, but the ring and Changeling probably are. The ring and Changeling would be great, right? Yeah. I mean, show the ring on a ferry like that would be, that would be pretty what? Yeah, no kidding. But also the ring, well, oh, I don't know if it still exists. It still existed. I would see it every time I went up to my brother's house at Stanwood. I would drive by and go, Oh, fuck, there's the Well, next time you go up, see if you can spot it. I will, yeah, I will say it's been a while. All right, guys, I've seen some movies. Hey, cool. I saw a movie called Axel F. I did too. Okay, this is the fourth installment of the Beverly Hills Cop movie franchise. Yeah, and I feel like they called it axle F rather than Beverly Hills Cop four, because maybe this is the first in a new trilogy, or something like that, where they can take him finally out of Beverly Hills and throw him into France or wherever. I liked it. I didn't love it, but I thought there was enough there for everybody to have a good time with. I haven't even seen two or three, so I don't know what I might have missed, but so many people were there from the first one that I had a really good time with. Kidding. I would say it's the best sequel. I think it's got, okay, yeah, the second one has good action, but not a lot of here, lot not quite enough humor compared to the first one, and the third one is just not a good movie. So no, I thought this was pretty good, nice little action. Through it, some good amount of humor. And like you said, all the people you wanted to see back were back, even though they are, some of them much, much older looking. It's like, oh boy, it's been 40 years. So, you know, Eddie looks fucking great. How old is he now? He's got to be 6870, years old, yeah, somewhere in there, yeah, because he was, he hit big in the early 80s, when he was, like, early 20s. So, yeah, he's up there, yeah. Well, the guy who played the chief was the the one is, like, John, he's Ashton, I think, yeah, so that sounds right, yeah, but he was so good, yes. I thought, Well, based on your watching it again, not too many episodes back, I decided to give it a watch, because I knew this was coming out. And I watched the original, and I had a really good time with it. I thought it was really funny. Yeah, it is a fantastic example of a mid 80s action comedy. Just nails it, yeah, yeah. So I would say if you like the first one, especially if you only like the first one, axle F is a worthy sequel, and it is on Netflix as a Netflix Original. Very cool, awesome. Well, I Well, we just had the Fourth of July, so I sure saw a couple of flicks for that, the first of which was Independence Day. And this is a annual tradition for me. Dating back many, many years, I have forced many of my friends to do this, and now they are force, forcing their partners to watch this every year, but I wanted to show it to my daughter so so we watched. Now here she is to give her review. Oh, she was facing it most of the time. You know, she sat through a good portion of it. I was just so psyched to be I don't know, it stands up so well to me. And I remember uttering at one point during it, is this the best movie ever made to which I know the answer is, No, I'm so happy. I was just okay making a speech again. Ah, it's so good. It is one of the great popcorn movies. Yeah, I remember watching it at Cinerama for the first time when it came out, and I did, I did definitely do, like, a jump when the thing pops out at Brent Spiner. I just like, Oh my God, and spilled in some popcorn majestically in the balcony. So, yeah, I remember loving this. I saw this in the theaters when it came out too. How do the effects hold up now, I think, you know, that's such a good question. I think that they're mostly okay because it's a lot of explosions and a lot of wide shots, and I think the close up stuff, there's a ton of practical that's done um, when you get some of the alien spaceship effects, I think they're not quite as good as maybe the first time I saw them. Like, I can see a little bit through the magic, but for the most part, I don't know. I thought it felt and looked pretty good, but I was watching it on a TV screen, so I don't know, like, I don't know, I wasn't watching like a 4k edition or anything. I was just kind of watching whatever was free on Hulu or whatnot. What did you think of the the new addition to when Will Smith punches the alien, and then he says, Keep my wife's name out your motherfucking mouth. You know, I missed that wasn't the time of the place, is what I thought. You know, should have had that discussion with that alien elsewise. Okay, noted, Alrighty, so Walter Hill, surprise, surprise appears again, no way with the Mad SOS war. Wait a second, this is the last two films you have to watch, right? Yes, wonderful. You've cleared out the Walter Hill catalog. Yes, yep. I wonder if anyone else has ever done this, except for maybe Walter Hill's wife. But I have not movies. This is probably, I probably put this one at the bottom. It's a made for Spike TV movie, which I didn't realize while watching it. I'm watching going, wow, why is this so bad? The so it's all shot video, and it's not shot well on video. The actors all feel like they are, like cattle prodded just before their lines, like talk, talk and I it's just, I don't know. It's just was not good. It's not his worst rated film. It's number five, but of His word of his lowest rated ones. But boy, it was just a slog. So made for Spike TV. Did it have recognizable actors in it? Yeah, it had a couple that were, I mean, nobody real, I guess Matthew Marston, kind of Brian, oh, Brian Donohue, not Brian Denny. So, no, not particularly, okay, a whole lot of you know how a Walter Hilton film always has, oh yeah, that guy actors. It had a bunch of them, you know, so they should have been better than they were. But, yeah, this is not, this is not my favorite. Okay, Matt's war, yep, not recommended, probably only available in this box that you bought. Oh, no, this was a to be okay, yeah. Is it presented by AX body spray? Oh, that is a good call. That would have been a great sponsor for this film, Vanessa. That is the funniest thing you've ever said. That was a good one. I think I'm just going to talk about a little bit of the TV I've watched really quickly. Three things. The acolyte still bored with it evil, loving it, yes, but it's got ups and downs. I'm really loving what they're doing with Ben's story and his trying to talk himself out of all of the supernatural shit that is happening to him, yeah. And then the one that I really watched, have you guys been keeping up with the boys? Yes, yeah, I think I've completely caught up on that. Yeah. The last episode was where they had to infiltrate technite, who is basically Bruce Wayne his house. I must be a little bit behind. Oh, Vanessa, you're in for episodes. I'm not going to spoil it. I will just say that I was I was like, wow, they are really just throwing us out here. And I feel like the writers sit there and they go, Okay, let's just see what Batman must really be like if he can take all of this abuse and what kind of person that would actually make you. And they did a brilliant job with it, and his his sidekick, and his possible new sidekick and all of this stuff. And I just had a really, really great time with the episode. Plus it was just a fucking bombshell revelation with butcher and all of this stuff going on. Was just like, fuck. What an episode. Yeah. So, wow, I don't know if, if they break up their episodes, because this felt definitely like a season half episode where we're going to take a couple of weeks off or something, because so much happened in this. Just really, really enjoy it. Yeah, well, say I gotta get set. So that is evil on paramount, plus the acolyte on Disney plus and the boys on prime, right? Okay, yeah, showing no favoritism, well, except that the boys is better than all of them. Oh, sure, okay, that's the accolade, but I know it is better. The accolades just such a slog. It's like, what I understand this is all supposed to be a show for kids, and everything Star Wars in general is for kids, right? That's why we loved it as kids, and that's why we're hating it as adults. But I'm like, I don't know any kid that would enjoy this show. No, no. Kids are smarter than that, way smarter. Yeah, no, it's, it's just God awful. I mean, mostly I'm just like, Oh hey, guy from squid game is really good at acting cool. I'm really psyched to see him in another role. And then, oh yeah, Jason, they're from the good place. There you are. That's where he's from. I was trying to place him for so, okay, thank you. From squid games. You know, he learned English for this part. He's so good, like, well, he's got one of those soulful faces where you just believe everything that he's thinking. So, yeah, yeah, there. There are some, there are some high points in this show. Yeah, it's just not the lead, unfortunately. So the lead is the Oh shit. We have to spend more time alone with you. Is there anyone else who's going to enter the room? Possibly, oh okay, you're going to get along. It's her twin sister. That's who else we get to spend time with Ray, played by the same actor. Yep, shocking, shocking, but one of them has a face tattoo and the other has slightly longer hair, or both. Anyway, it doesn't matter, sure. Well, the other movie I watched for Fourth of July, I think some somehow I was tuning in to Kelly from afar. I don't know, I don't know how, but I was like, Wow. I was just like, you know, I, I would like to watch jaws. And it just struck me like lightning. What is that? I've not heard of this English. I don't know what that word is, yes, all the Lego ads on social media, my favorite movie of all time. So good. How did it hold up for you? Well, I was like, Man, I have not seen this in forever. And I was telling Austin, like, hey, like, you know when's the last time you saw? And he's like, I don't know I saw. I've I don't know. I don't really want to watch this movie. And I was like, well, we're gonna watch this movie because it's my turn to pick a random movie we have to watch. So this is going to be, it turned out, I don't know that either of us had actually watched it all the way through what I know, wow. Whole Hangout, yeah, and the whole time he's like, Oh my God, this movie's so good. He's like, I'm so glad we're watching this movie. And I was like, fuck man. Like, this is not exactly what I expected. There's like, lots that I did expect in there, but the like, spending all that time talking about fishing was awesome. I really enjoyed that somebody did a deep dive into some fishing books. And I was like, yes. Unfortunately, the thing that I didn't love about it is, like, this weird adventure music that plays at the most inappropriate times. I'm like, What the fuck you're they're holding on to like, piano wire, and the dude just talked about, try not to get your fingers cut off. And there's like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, rescore, restore. This is awful. It was just, it was like, The Goonies music does not belong here, guys. I thought that was an interesting thing. Eric, I don't know if you remember when we talked about Jaws, way back in the dead again years. That was one of the things we mentioned was the strange adventure music that happened. It is odd. I mean, the rest of it's couple. It's coupled with one of the most famous music stingers ever, right? It makes it so much worse when it happens, because you're like, I know you can do something else. I know it's available. And because it feels like an indie movie in some ways, the way that the quality of the scrappiness of some of it. It just, yeah, I don't know, uh Oh, hold on. I'm coming back. Sorry. You're bullshit. Stop talking dad about Jaws here. So maybe my electronics are starting to fail. How cool. All right, I'll talk quickly. Well, hold on a second. I we're talking about jobs for the rest of the episode. Now, I saw, or No, I heard an interview with John Williams just recently and Vanessa. This will mean nothing to you, but maybe something to Eric, who has heard of this band. Did you know that John Williams, son is the singer of the band? Toto? Is that wild? Did not that's pretty cool. Yeah, composer of the jaws adventure music and the I think maybe the most Oscar nominated man of all time, or maybe just behind Walt Disney. Yeah, his son is the singer of Toto. So there you go, everybody. Here's some free information for you do with incredible wealth. I don't go listen to stranger in town, Rosanna, Africa. Everybody knows those. So here it is, the final Walter Hill film. Oh, on my list of unwashed Walter Hill films. I can't believe I didn't see those coming. So watching this one, you know, I've talked about the order, uh, broken trail, broken trail. Not familiar, but what this is, right? Watching this, I realized that it actually wasn't in order the letterbox listing ahead I had in order of least or most to least popular, not most of least quality stars. So as I'm watching this one, going, How in the hell is this the number two worst rated Walter Hill film? So I went in and adjusted it, and it popped all the way up to like number eight in his movies. But it's only like two or three reviews of it on letterbox. It's fucking good. This one is really good. It was a another. This was also kind of a made for TV movie, and the the the company, I don't remember his MGM or whoever was looking at it, said, Why don't you extend it and we'll basically, kind of make it 290 minute movies that are one long story. So that's what they did, and this has, let's see Robert Duvall and Thomas Hayden church are the main leads. And unlike medzware, the performances in this are stellar. They are phenomenal. It has moments of truly disturbing violence, but it's oddly coupled. Of some of the most relaxing movie watching I've had where it's not slow, but it's it's not boring, but it's slow. As the main storyline is these two guys, I think, father and son, and they did our uncle, and they decide they're going to take 500 herd, or 500 head of horses to from Oregon to Montana, or I think it was because military wants them. And so there's these long, wonderful scenes of them, just like driving horses and dealing with that, and then some pretty horrible violence with one of the horses. But then they meet up with a group of men who have five Asian women as being taken to a brothel. So they end up this is all happening fairly early. They end up freeing them and they join the journey. Just a good movie. I mean, it was, I watched it the whole thing three plus hours long, because it's 290 minute movies, but damn good. So of his stuff, if you look at, if you look at his ratings, you know, put it in the right order. It's in the top eight of his films on ratings for letterbox, so I would put it there very easily. So broken trail definitely one of his best, and that is that was that is in the box set. So not sure where else it's available. So you said Robert Duvall and Thomas Hayden church, yeah. So that has to be one of the last movies he made. Then one of the later ones, for sure, later ones. Yeah, it was 2006 so I've not heard of that one, but I will put that on the list. Yeah, it was in the in the knowledge. It was one step above matzos, war which is his least known film, apparently, right? Which is fine, right? Well, cool guys, how about we take a little break, and then when we come back, we're talking about checking a movie off our long list. You Hey, friends, remember getting us for the holidays. You're like, whoa, Ninja Turtles, then you lost us at camp. Get that feeling again with the Honda Pilot during happy Honda days become standard with Honda Sensing a suite of safety and Driver Assist features. Safety features are the key to happiness, or get tubular in the Honda Ridgeline, it has this lockable in bed trunk, you mean pizza compartment so full get something you love during happy Honda days, I and we're back. Eric, hello. How would you describe this sub genre you've picked for us today? Well, we all have giant lists of movies we want to watch. I guarantee it several probably. And I figure, you know what, go on that list, find something that's been on there a long freaking time and check it out. All right, that was all there was. Wait a second, holy shit. I gotta go get the timer. Somebody say something you clever for a while. Oh, yeah, good luck with that that. Hey, let's see here. Yeah, I say this, I've got lists in letterbox. I've got lists in IMDB. I got lists in notes. I mean, they're just everywhere. Yeah, that was totally not interesting. Stop saying anything clever. I'm back too late. We stopped long ago, Eric, I'm gonna put 10 minutes on the buzzer, and you can talk About your film, which is 1987 Wings of Desire. You I can't see you, but I know you're here. I feel it. I. I'm Elder, It's been behind Rotten Tomatoes. Rating, it's an unusual one for me. Critics, 95 crowd, 93 Wow. I've never even heard of this movie, have I really this? You might recognize the that cover image. Oh, the guy with the angel with the wings and in a overcoat. The film The City of Angels was based on, I missed that in the credit. Thanks. But very well. It could be, I think so. Budget of 5 million made 3.2 in the US. So this available to rent in several places. It's also on criterion and Max Well, easily findable. Directed by Wim Wenders, known for Paris, Texas until the end of the world, Pina lumber and company and the Buena Vista Social Club. So definitely directed some fairly successful indie art house kind of films. Also one of the writers on it. And he also wrote Pope Francis, a man of his word, and City of Angels. Peter honke also wrote city of angels, the left handed woman, the goalie's anxiety at the penalty kick, sure and Richard right, injure, no skies over whales, no sky limit, with Africa and City of Angels. So there does seem to be a slight connection. I wonder if they're giving story credit to you. Could be Bruno ganz is the main actor, he's but he was in the house that Jack built, Little Prince, unknown, youth without youth, and the legendary life of Ernest Hemingway, go right out and not watch that one. Kelly also solvig, solvag damerton, who is also in the end of the world and no fear, no die, and far away, so close. Otto sander, you will recognize one of these people, but he was in das boat sauce, the Einstein of sex and the tin drum. And Peter Falk might know him from Colombo, The Princess Bride shark tales and the Great Muppet Caper. Oh, but so the idea of this is that this is a group of angels, and they just kind of watch people. They they're, I wouldn't call it interfering. They're sort of like guardian angels, ideas where occasionally they're touch somebody, and they seem to, it seems to relax them or comfort them, or act as a muse for them. They don't necessarily look like angels. They're all wearing overcoats, and they can hear people's thoughts. Small children can see them, and occasionally other people can sense their presence. Opens with him just kind of flying around, viewing things, goes into an airplane, just it's a lot of observation of the world by these angels. When he goes through their library, you see many angels, lots of angels in the libraries, with lots of the people reading and learning and trying to figure things out. So that's kind of a neat scene. It is a black and white and color film, mostly black and white, because black and white is the what the angels see, and color is when you get the human perspective of what's going on. It's really well shot. It looks really amazing, although the color almost looks technic. Color. It's so vibrant, could be contrast with the black and white to a bit as well. The it's also the angels. Camera angles are also filtered with a gauze to give it kind of a softer focus. Wandering around, wanders into a circus, and kind of gets mesmerized by the trapeze woman who's dressed with Angel Wings, which actually she doesn't like at all. She's like, these don't work. This is not going to be hard for me to do my routine while he is there. The news comes down that this will be tonight's performance. Will be the last of the circus, because the sheriff is shutting them down. For some reason, the lady does her practice, goes back and you hear through him listening to her pretty sad, profound monolog, which is interesting. The writing in this is very well done. She returns to her trailer and puts on a Nick Cave album. Not what I was expecting, but sure, why not? Then we move to a scene with, he's the other he's there's two angels that are kind of primaries, and they get together and review their notes, the things they've seen throughout the day, generally, atrocities. So like, okay, get you guys have some fun. The other angel goes to visit an old man who's remembering the horrors of the rise of Nazis, commenting on like the flags appeared, covering everything and police were no longer nice. The angels talk about the horrible division of the people. And anyone that wants to be admitted to the other world of individual, divided people has to pay a price to be accepted by that divided stuff. So it's okay. There's some relevance in this world. The movie moves along at an odd pace, but a really good pace. There's two pretty good performances by Nick gave too. He appears live in the movie, once in a black and white scene and once in color. That's cool. The overall storyline is the angel wants to become human. He wants to experience the world. He wants to know what it's like to be cold or warm or eat something or get hurt or anything that humans can experience, is what he wants to figure out. And one of the fun little it's not quite a twist, but Peter Falk is in Germany, shooting as a actor, as himself, basically shooting a Nazi movie. And so at times the the imagery gets a little confusing. I'm like, this is 1980s modern right? But then they cut to a scene which is in the movie, like sewing stars on somebody's clothes, like, is that wardrobe or what is but really an interesting film, and the Will he become mortal to check out the real world? You know, odds are good. But this is a good movie. I was very this is one that's been sitting on my list, probably since the early 90s. Just such a great cover image, and I've always wanted to see it. They did a great job of covering it as critical and relatively financial success, just not in the US alone. It's got great academic studies in it about the importance of cinema, libraries, circuses, German unity, containing new age, religious, secular or other themes. So it's just there's a lot of shit going on in this movie, and it's very symbolic and very interesting. The the angels move oddly. They're shot like there's only, it's only done once or twice where they move around. Really hard to see what what they're going on. But their idea was, they kind of exist wherever they want to, whenever they want to, so to just follow them around with a camera doesn't always make sense, except when they're observing humans, that makes perfect sense. They tried to film or they weren't allowed to film near the actual Berlin Wall, so they had a replica built. They had to do it twice because the first one was fake and warped in the rain because the contractor lied and used wood to build it, so they had to go back and build it again. The film is dedicated to three angels, yes, ajiro Francois and Andres. Are all actually famous directors. His hero, Ozu Francois, Truffaut and Andre tchacoski are named who had all died before the filming of this, and they were all when wonders favorite directors. Let's see what else is going on. Oh. Peter Falk disappeared for a while. He was so enamored with Germany, he just kind of wandered off and they could not find for, like, for several hours. And he's like, I just liked it. He enjoyed the face that is the weirdest movie he's ever been in. He enjoyed it so much that he paid for his own expenses to stay an extra two weeks in hopes they might give him another scene or two. But highly recommend it, especially if you've got any interest in symbolic films, films that are saying a lot more than they're showing art minded, but also entertaining. It's not, it's not a Tchaikovsky kind of film where you sort of got to get into it and go with it. This is just a well done film. I mean, it's 30 years old or something. Yeah, is it sad? Is there a very sad element to this? I'm asking because I have seen City of Angels, not like City of Angels. No, there's, there's a sequel, though. I mean, it's, it has the DR Detroit ending will return, but it actually does. It does have a second film, but is nowhere near as highly regarded. And I don't know if it is, if it has City of Angels kind of level stuff, but this one is more. The ending is not nice, but I think it's not that bad either. I think it's more of, yeah, when you're human, shitty stuff can happen, and some shitty stuff kind of happens, but it's nowhere near as dramatic as City of Angels. City of Angels. Okay, and now correct me if I'm wrong, is that Nicolas Cage in City of Angels? Or Yes, am I speaking out? Okay, yeah. I mean, I really liked city of angels, but I was just devastated with the third act. So, yeah, that's a good film. So this is very different. Okay, very different. Interesting. This is one that's been on my list forever, too. I've never seen it. You're making me want to watch it. Finally. Cool. That's same, absolutely. Vanessa, you want to go next? Sure, sure. All right. Well, I'm putting 10 minutes tell me about what film did you love for this sub genre? Yes. Well, I you know, initially I really wanted to go with a film I couldn't get a hold of, which was the devils, despite showing up in space jam in the background, Warner Brothers has mostly tried to completely bury Yeah. So I moved on to another film that people have been like every time I say it out loud, people like you haven't seen. And that's tombstone. It was a place where a man could start over, where a fortune could be made. They say every town has a story tombstone as a legend. Who is he that's wider, better named for himself as a peace officer. I heard of you. I'm retired. You must be Doc Holliday, you retired, too, not me. I'm in my prime Hollywood Pictures presents only real law around here is the Cowboys, the story of Wyatt Earp, the first time in our lives we got a chance to stop wandering and finally be a family. Now this is trouble we don't need if we're gonna have a future in this town, it's gotta have some law and order. What do you want? Ringo, I want your blood. I want your soul. I want them both right now. Shot your brother now the time has come for justice. Guess. Maybe you better swear me and he has to live up to his reputation. You got a fight coming one last time. None of your problem, Doc, you don't have to mix up in this. That is a hell of a thing for you to say to me in a battle the last child, you'll fight up and. Some orders at the okay corral, oh, my god, the West would never forget it. Kurt, Russell Val Kilmer, Dana Delaney, powers booth, Michael bean, Bill Paxton, Jason Priestley, Sam Elliott and Charlton Heston and Hell's coming with me. Justice is coming to Tombstone. So what year was that? 1993 Yeah, so this is one of those ones I've been meaning to get around to forever. Very highly loved film, Rotten Tomatoes. Score, critics 73% but audience has it at 93% this is directed by George P Cosmatos. I knew of him from behind the scenes stuff for COBRA, which is one of the things he directed, as well as Rambo First Blood Part Two, Leviathan and of unknown origin. It was kind of CO directed slash written by Kevin jar, who has 12 writing credits, including glory the mummy. Rambo First Blood Part Two. This is his only directing credit, so I don't know how much he participated, starring Kurt Russell, which is a big reason why I went with this. 109 things, including the thing Big Trouble in Little China, Escape from New York, escape from La guardings of the galaxy to Kelly went over sky high in a previous episode, also things like Stargate Captain meron Elvis and recently Santa Claus. He played both Santa Claus and is in monarch legacy of the monsters with his son, Wyatt, also starring Val kilmar Kilmer, 105 credits, including kiss Kis, Kiang bang, the saint Batman Forever, Willow True Romance, Island of Dr Rowe, which I touched on in a previous episode. He also has done a lot of voice work, including recently as kit for the newest Knight Rider TV series. So what? Okay, I know I sleep. That's cool. He's done a lot of cool voice work. Um, Sam Elliott, 108 credits, including Roadhouse, which I recently talked about, mask Prancer, Big Lebowski, Hulk, not that one Avenger, not that one ghostwriter. And recently, A star is born. And the ranch TV series, 80 episodes. Have no idea what that is. Um, Bill Paxton is also in this 98 uh, credits to his name, aliens, Twister frailty, which we've talked about before. Um, also in this movie, you're constantly going, Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait So Michael bean, Charles Charlton Heston, Jason Priestley, Thomas Hayden, church powers, Booth, Dana delani, Michael Rooker, Billy Bob Thornton, Billy Zane, Terry O'Quinn, Frank Stallone and Robert Mitchum, nice, just to name a few, like every time he runs deep, oh my God, every time somebody like drunkenly stumbles through frame, I'm like, I Who are you? And it's happening. Um, the story of this is a recently retired Wyatt Earp, along with his brothers Virgil and Morgan, venture towards tombstone to settle down. When they arrive, they encounter Doc Holliday, who's there with his gambling partner, slash lady friend of the night, seeking relief and dry climate due to his tuberculosis, Doc and Wyatt go way back and instantly rekindle their friendship. The Earp brothers aim to settle intombstone To seek fortune. I was never totally clear what they were going to do, like if they're going to go gold panning or open a casino, or what they're trying to do there, but they want to get rich, and when they hear that the town is being harassed by a wild west mafia type group called the Cowboys, they try to help the locals out. Wyatt refuses to take the badge of Sheriff because he's determined to finally retire for good. But it doesn't help matters. Things are going to the shit. Meanwhile, a traveling theater troupe that includes the beautiful Josephine Marcus arrives, and there's an instant connection between Josephine and Wyatt. Too bad, Wyatt is married and swears that he will never stray, even though his wife sucks and is addicted to laudanum. And opium. But nah, he totally it's fine. He definitely won't fall for the other lady and create a very, very weird love triangle that does not really belong in this film. As the town deteriorates under the chaos of the Cowboys, his brothers decide to step up and become the law because somebody's gotta do it. But as one accent, accidental death gives way to many, many purposeful deaths back and forth across groups. We see that the town is going to be destroyed. And, of course, the gang takes a hit out on the brothers one night, killing one of them and basically creating like hitting the arm of another, so he's a lame man. Wyatt then sends Virgil and the women away. He puts on the badge, and he is ready to murder everyone him and another group of men and Doc proceed to massacre across the land, even with Doc barely able to breathe, it's fine. His tuberculosis is not getting significantly worse. He's not sweating. In every scene like bullets. He's definitely able to walk, of course. The film ends with a huge Riverside shootout between Wyatt and Doc and the cowboy gang. Wyatt heroically wades into the water in clear sight of the enemies and brutally wipes them out. Just kidding. The film ends with a final shootout between doc who leaves his hospital bed to save Wyatt from a duel he cannot possibly win against the best gunslinger in the rival Tang gang. Despite tuberculosis and barely able to stand or breathe, he still wins, just kidding, right? The film ends with Wyatt eliminating the final red scarves of the Cowboys hiding out in the desert, just kidding. The film ends with Wyatt attending Doc's deathbed, handing him the book of his life and their friendship, and Doc asking Wyatt to just go and live his best life. Then, as he leaves the room, dies, just kidding. The film ends with Wyatt finding Josephine at the Christmas place somewhere, and they agree to go to California. Probably that's how the film ends. This is such a weird movie. I mean, I think they're just like, let's just really stick to like his life, and just for reasons keep it's a lot of and then and then, and then, and then going on in here, however, I will say they're great performances. Kurt Russell and his eyes. Who knows what color they are. They're the color your soul. I don't know what this the core plot is meant to be of the I mean, I do, but, like, it just it doesn't seem to care from the film itself. The wife, shit sucks. I hate it. I hate her. I hate the romance triangle. It sucks. Doc, however, this is the surprise. He is great. Like, holy shit, great. Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer playing a sweaty, pasty, dying man with a wild accent, should not work, but he literally steals the entire show. It's not a great action movie, though. There is a really fun lightning scene when the Cowboys are trying to off each of the broilers. That's that's a cool scene, but overall, like it just feels a little clunky in places. I wish it was better than it was. Music is irritating as fuck. That's my thoughts. Trivia. Taglines, which one's the best out of these? I'm your Huckleberry. Yes, there you go. Winner. Justice is coming, and every town has a story follows with him. Every time has a story. Tombstone has legend. I know which one's my favorite. According to Val kilmar, screenwriter Kevin jar insisted the actors wear wool, real wool costumes in accordance with the time period in the birdcage theater scene, Kilmer says the thermometer, thermometer on set read 134 degrees Fahrenheit. And he suggested, jokingly, that that was the reason Doc Holliday killed so many people from screenwriter get a say in what the actors away. I mean, because he did, like, Yeah, I know. I mean, he did have a directing credit on this, so I don't know. Maybe that's his scene. Fellow Kilmer improvised quite a few things, including, there was a wink at the end of this fight, as well as, like, whistling on the way to going to a fight. He was just like fully in George P Cosmatos claimed that Stephen Lang was drunk for most of the filming. William Defoe was originally the original choice to play Doc Holliday, but Vista refused to distribute the film if he was cast due to Defoe's role in the controversial. The Last Temptation of Christ. And do I have enough time for one more? One more. All right. Val Kilmer wrote in 2017 that Kurt Russell was a major influence in directing of this movie, and that it was solely he was solely responsible for tombstone success. No question. Um, month into production, Kevin jar was replaced as director after he became overwhelmed in the duty and fell behind schedule. George P Cosmatos was brought in and hit the ground running. But according to Kilmore Kilmer, I was there every minute, and although Kurt's version differs slightly from mine, the only thing he's totally correct about is how hard he worked the day before for the next day's shot list, and tremendous effort he and I both put into editing as the studio Hollywood pictures wouldn't give us any extra time to make up for the whole month we lost due to the first director I watched. Kurt sacrifice his own role and energy to devote himself as a storyteller, even going so far as to draw up shot lists to help our replacement director, who came in with only two days to prep. So, holy shit, Daniel, yeah, I was saying definitely, love love this movie. Love it, yeah, everybody does. It's okay, Vanessa, you didn't love it. I just too slow for you, or it was really boring. It was really boring. I was like, trying so hard to pay attention. And I was like, oh, because, like, it doesn't flow very well. Like, it just, like I said, there's a lot of and then this happens, and then, and you're just like, really, does that happen? Could we maybe move to the next thing where something real happens? That'd be cool. Why are we at the piano again? Like it's, there's, it's a good movie in a lot of pieces, but them strung together had some faults in there, so didn't just enjoy a bunch of a list actors acting their fucking asses off. Look Val Kilmer Anne's car Russell made it very, very much worthwhile. I don't regret seeing it at all like I think that those performances alone were incredible. And like seeing all the people who showed up putting on all the hats that they did, it was it was great. It just, there is a lot of slog. There's a lot of just slog I had to get through to get to like, okay, cool. Let's do another close up on doc. Holliday, I'm in. Let's see. What do you think he has to say? This was one of those weird films that every couple of years we get two films come out at the same time. That's about the same thing, you know? Yeah, and shit like that. And so Kevin Costner's Wyatt Earp came out same year, which is probably a better movie, but I like tombstone a lot better. It's just more entertaining, yep, such a just a fun movie. I don't the move thing like that doesn't bother me at all, because it's kind of like a dazed and confused thing. It's like, this is a story and we're just going so it's not a three act, necessarily three act kind of structure. It's a period of time told in a movie. So I was like, okay, sure, bring me along. Interesting about the two directors. I didn't realize that. I thought this was a cosmotos film, but really interesting to find out that it's still somehow credited to two directors. So, yeah, the guild must have stepped in and said, you've used enough of this guy's film to also consider him a co director. I mean, if he was on it for like, a month, then that does make a lot of sense. Yeah, and I thought I read something about like, Russell saying that he didn't want a credit on it. Even though he basically directed, there was some something where he was he didn't want to take that. So I gotta say, when you were listing off that cast, I was like, I gotta fucking watch this movie as soon as we're done. Kidding. I mean, it is such a who's who and, like, especially now, because some of these guys didn't end up really taking off till later, like Terry O'Quinn didn't really. I mean, I think lost was really when people started loving him. And I was like, is that the bald dude from lost? It's just, is that Jason Priestley wearing like, tiny glasses and maybe having a gay crush? I'm not sure, but Jason Priestley, is He? Is he related to Elvis briefly? I they spell it, spell it differently, but he's from 90 210 he's a heartthrob the 90s. I know you know who that is, Kelly. I got told I looked like him a lot back in the day. Excellent. And all the mustaches were real, super fucking great mustaches, all right? Are you? There's a big deal when they're doing their press tour of that, of all the guys saying, yeah, they're all real. We grew these damn things. That's an event between that and the heat. Jesus. All right, well, okay, I'm putting 10 minutes on the buzzer. I will not need 10 minutes. I am talking about a film from 2007 called the Poughkeepsie tapes. We have to wait 24 hours. Today, police made a shocking discovery in Poughkeepsie. A third body was found here today. A Poughkeepsie couple vanished over the weekend, seemingly without a trace. Do you mind if I film this? I'm Making a little movie about my trip. You a Poughkeepsie tails, hey guys familiar with this movie, or even the town of Poughkeepsie? Poughkeepsie, New York. I've seen the film before this film. The only thing I knew Poughkeepsie from was That was where Richard and Wendy Pini, who created ElfQuest, were from. Oh, yes, the Poughkeepsie tapes is from 2007 I could find no budget or box office information for it. Ron tomatoes, critics give it 60% the audience gives it 51% it was directed by John Eric Dowdle, who has 11 credits, including quarantine devil as above, so below. This was his first film, as written by Dowdle. And I assume his brother drew Dowdle, who has eight credits, including quarantine and quarantine too, as above, so below and no escape, starring Stacy Chbosky, who has 12 credits, including quarantine chrome skull, two laid to rest victorious and The Perks of Being a Wallflower. Ben messamer is in this he has 19 credits, including gamers, quarantine sparks and grind town and Samantha Robson is in this she has six credits, including one episode of red dwarf and 146 episodes of the bill. It also stars Ivor broger, Lou George, Amy Linden and Ron Harper. Eric. Have you seen the Poughkeepsie tapes? Not for a while. Yeah, I have you both saw this piece of shit, and you said, Fine, when I said I was gonna watch it, I literally don't remember anything that happens other than the tapes. Well, you are the lucky one today. Yes. So this movie is told as a mockumentary or a faux documentary, or whatever they call it now, with interviews and footage taken from a serial killer's video camera. I guess it falls into the found footage genre, which you guys know I hate, but the documentary storytelling saves it from that at least. It opens with a police raid on a house in Poughkeepsie, New York, where they discover over 800 videotapes shot by serial killer Edward Carver, which are a meticulous record of his murders, beginning with the abduction all the way to the murder of the victim and sometimes beyond lovely. Despite all of this evidence, Carver is extremely careful not to be shown on film and less fully disguised. So the police are trying to find out who and where his next victim is. As this documentary is going on, we are told this guy is still on the loose. So the documentary then talks about his very first victim, an eight year old girl that he abducts, rapes and murders. After that, it goes into a. Murders, which is a couple that picks him up hitchhiking. This one is particularly brutal because he performs a cesarean section on the woman, Vanessa, placing the severed head of her husband inside her womb before sewing her up, waking her and filming her reaction. I don't remember that. Yeah, yes, I'm watching this film. Going, why is this on my list? This is not rewatching this. I'll tell you what. I would lose my shit now. This is some unpleasant shit. And then we get to the bulk of the movie, which concerns the abduction and subsequent torture of a teenager named Cheryl Dempsey. He murders her boyfriend and then imprisons her in his basement and proceeds to abuse her sexually, physically and psychologically over 143 video cassettes. At one point, he goes to her distraught mother under the guise of a person who wants to help, then slyly lets her know that he's her daughter's captor as he laughs and flees the scene. As his crimes gain more and more attention, he decides to change his MO and starts murdering prostitutes while posing as a police officer. That even goes so far as to frame a different police officer for the murders, who pleads innocent during the entire trial and his sentencing and all the way until his death by lethal injection and then days later, he plants clues to show the cops where another victim is and that the police officer they had executed was innocent. Finally, the police are able to figure out where his house is, but when they get there, it's empty, except for poor Cheryl Dempsey, who he's been torturing for years. She, of course, is a mess, both physically and mentally, irreversibly damaged from the ordeal. She will kill herself before the end of this documentary. Oh, my God, will this film ever tell you why Carver is as deranged as he is. Will Kaylee feel like this? Oh, wait, this is my name. Will Kelly feel like this is a movie he would have been fine with never seeing? And will this film punish you for daring to sit through 86 minutes of the most unsavory bullshit ever with very, very unsatisfying these answers unless can be yours, but let me tell you, they should not be yours. Avoid this film at all costs. So obviously, I didn't care for this flick, and I'm a little stunned that anyone liked it, but it seems to be quite popular with the horror crowd, including many of our friends, which I'm going to unfriend immediately. I will admit there are some creepy moments in this film. The real problem is that the tapes, which is the majority of the film, the tapes that the killer has recorded, and all that they're so grainy that it's just really hard to watch, not hard, as in uncomfortable, like visibly hard, you're sitting there going, THE FUCK IS THAT? I know that you gotta you want to hint what's going on, but I'm gonna need a little bit more than this. So anyway, taglines, some murderers leave clues. Some leave warnings. This one left the Poughkeepsie tapes, trivia, yeah, premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival in May. 2007 there's some weird shit going on with this release. It was scheduled for a theatrical release by MGM on February 8. 2008 the film, however, was removed from the release schedule in spite of promotional advertising, which I don't remember ever seeing. This was never a film that was on my radar Intel. It became a film that everyone was saying, you gotta see the Poughkeepsie tapes. So that was 2008 in july 2014, the film was given its first official release as a video on demand, title available through DirecTV. It was subsequently pulled again less than a month later, with the director suggesting that MGM was considering a wider release, which I assume means theatrical. Who knows that's not what happened. It was shot in 15 days, and all the fake interviews were shot in just two days. The fake interviews really help with the uncomfortableness of the film, because the director or the people being interviewed, which are the inspectors, the detectives and some of the just general police officers on the scene, are so bland and normal, it feels like any Netflix documentary we'd be watching on True Crime anyway. And then finally, the news anchors and reporters were from Minneapolis, St Paul, which was the director's hometown, and I assume where this was shot. I did not like this film. It is so unpleasant, and you don't get to see a lot of horrible shit. I. Right? But if you're like, me, Listen, I'm going to take a strong stance against raping and murdering eight year olds. I know a lot of people are going to push hard against that, but that's how I feel. And I was just like, Yeah, this is some unpleasant shit. And I'm I'm nah, I never want to be the guy that's like, What kind of sick fuck makes a movie like this? Because, quite honestly, I got that question after the connoisseur, so yep, I don't want to ever be that guy, but I'm like this. There's nothing fun in this movie, you know, and I think there should be a little bit of fun, and even the scariest horror films or whatever. This was just kind of a really hard, harsh film that that played too close to truth, and I just don't love that kind of horror. So the Poughkeepsie tapes, I'm turning my buzzer off with one minute left to go. I I mean, it's weird, like you describing it, it just does not ring any Bell bells. I'm so sure that I saw this, but now I'm like, Did I not like this song? Oh, you should watch it tonight. Vanessa, I will never watch this if I haven't already. Fuck I feel like out of all the there must be 100 movies on my list, you know, even just some of the homework movies that I haven't watched, you know, movies from the 40s and 50s that I still need to watch. I should have watched one of those instead of this, but I was trying to keep it true to the the podcast. Genre, Vanessa, whatever. Well, you guys could have said no. And I was like, Western is a pretty strong genre. Also, if we say no to Kurt Russell, I know that too. Spent a month talking about ninjas, I can talk about a Western Wait a second. Are you saying we should spend a month talking about ninjas? I I don't. I don't know how to answer that without me having to spend another month watching ninja films. Christ, oh, well, who's whose selection is this for the next genre? Wait, is it mine? I think it is. Let me double check there. Probably it is. I I can't remember if I figured something else. We may have to pause. Did I tell you guys what I wanted it to be? Yes, yes, you did. I can give you a hint, if you look at that that tell me, is it behind me? Yes, thank you. Okay, all right, we don't even have to edit this out. I want to do toho films. You guys can pick any film from the Toho studio, as long as it's not a Godzilla film, right? Those are clear boundaries. Yeah. Okay, so this is the part, oh, shit. Connoisseur got into another film festival. Oh, let's talk about it. It's another one I'm loosely connected with, but aren't working with at all anymore, the Issaquah International Film Festival. What which? I gotta say, I'm a little uncomfortable with the idea of some of the art commission people that I work with seeing this really so, but they show amazing because that's a that's actually a legitimate Film Festival. Yeah, not genre. And they're, I can't say, probably shouldn't say, what theater, but they're looking at a fairly impressive theater to use this year. So oh, so hopefully that'll happen. What's our film festival showing count so far, is this four or five? We are six for six, six for six. I'll take it, yep. So far. Knock on wood. Every notification we've got from a festival has been an acceptance. I know that won't last, but it's fun to enjoy. It is super fun. Congratulations to you, Eric, the director of this film, because I feel like you fucking directed and produced the shit out of this. You put everybody together pretty Absolutely. Thank you. So yes, amazing. Also, before we get into any other bullshit. This was waiting for me when I got home from Portland today. Look at this bad boy. Oh, that's so cool. That's so cool. What is is he just a little figure guy? He is just a little figure guy, but he is from a company called cryptocurium, which is Jason McKitrick, good stand. And yeah, he just makes amazing, little limited statues. They are from a mold, but then he hand paints them. So I consider them original art, because they're all very limited. And yeah, I know Eric, you've got a bunch of his stuff too, some up there. His stuff is a little pricey, but, like, twice a year, he does a 50% off sale. And every time that happens, I buy something, and this was waiting for me, and I am very, very pleased with it. So please, yours is much cooler than the if you like shit like this, that is, that is cryptocurium. So glowing eyes, or does it have LED lights? No, no. Glowing eyes. Just, yeah, just, Wow, impressive. They look great. I mean, this is really, this is really a neat piece of art. What I received is far less impressive, but I'm using novelization of Amityville, death toilet. Oh, my God. When are we? Somebody had to, I think you mean somebody got to. How come I was not approached to novelize This, this spectacular theatrical feature. Oh, my God, I don't know. You should. You should reach out to one of the Amityville guys and I could write a novella about which my novel is getting rave reviews, and it is out. It is called the secret language of spiders, and I don't want to do an Amityville novelization now, because people are actually starting to treat me like an author. There are autographs, physical copies. Thank you. And all you have to do is reach out to me, either through here or on my Facebook, which is written by kl young.com, oh, wait, just written by kl young, any way that you reach out to me and just say I want to buy it. I'm I'm charging you $16 which is the price of the book, plus shipping. I'll autograph it, I'll personalize it, I'll thank you for the idea if that's what you want. So maybe it's a little higher than 16 books there. Kelly, nope. $16 we all have a price, and mine $16 so here we are to the point where I thank everybody for liking and sharing posts, for getting on the strange eons radio talk page, for getting on the strange eons radio hotline, leaving us a message which is 253-237-4266, 253-237-4266, once again, that is 253-237-4266, leave us a voicemail. That's our favorite. Micah, I still have not watched the movie you wanted us to watch. Sorry about that. I will get to that. Also big. Thanks to everyone who participates in the value for value model, which is just giving us money on various donation things. You can do that through our website, on bias coffee. You can do a sustained subscription on PayPal. PayPal. You can even write us bad checks, loose change from your pocket, whatever. We're fine with all of it, and we appreciate all of it. Yes, Anything else, guys, what have I forgotten? Nothing, nothing. I got there. You do anything immediately. I am a consummate professional. 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