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Kelly:Strange Aeons. Welcome Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. That's Vanessa over there.
Vanessa:Good morning.
Kelly:Hey, you guys. Well, this is the weekend after Thanksgiving. I don't know if anybody got to do anything. I sat at home alone and did nothing.
Eric:Well, how many of our 16 plus years of retail work that I did and living my parents living in another state? thanksgiving for me became very much a holiday. I didn't do much in the changelog when I married Dina, but now this year, it was just it was actually kind of adorable. Dina's parents made Christmas dinner. Her brother went over there picked up Christmas dinner package, his favorite Thanksgiving package for his family Thanksgiving, patch it for the two of us, and then delivered him. It was it was very sweet.
Kelly:Did you do a little zoom call then with everybody? It
Eric:was short one. We did a Hello. I think it was probably a four minute zoom call. Just kind of saying Hey, everybody. And but so that was cool.
Vanessa:That sounds that sounds really delightful. I much like you, you know, having spent 10 years in the UK. Thanksgiving was not a thing. Every once while somebody would try to humor me. I was tried to bake a turkey in a very broken oven. And I called it a franc and it did not go well. Um, yeah. So like, yeah, thanksgiving doesn't quite hold the same, but because I've got, you know, older parents and everything like that. I've been trying really hard to it kind of falls on my shoulders to make the entire dinner. So I've been getting to make turkeys as the vegetarian of the family. No, boy. Three years. I think I'm good at it. I don't know. I've never had it. I don't know how to I know how to make the gravy with the fat drippings. You know all that I've no idea. Um, so this year, it was just my sister and my mom. But we did do the extended families zoom call with like, 20 odd people. Oh, wow. And they had it go on for two hours.
Kelly:No,
Vanessa:I finally just left I left with my mom and my sister to skip stare at my computer and I went out for a run and I was like, I can't deal with these people anymore. That's
Kelly:though. Yeah, I know that there was talk Vanessa last episode of everybody stopping by grandma's house to drop off food and
Vanessa:it kind of happened in that three of my relatives all from the same side participated in it and actually during the zoom call, we could see this mirroring of phones where one person would be running like driving and dropping off at the other person's house or the other person's phone was show those people it was very interesting. Oh man very surreal
Eric:nauseating to watch though,
Vanessa:it was strange. Bounce Bounce Bounce over again. I see. Yes, it was it was actually kind of like I don't know, it was a little bit reality TV. So it felt like oh, what's gonna happen next? Where are you going now? Like I actually have an adventure to follow and not just listen to me. My uncle's B stories are very fascinating. But
Eric:he keeps some bs or he has a radical stories and gets a little old.
Vanessa:There's too many of us when there's not many people and like we each ended up across two minutes maybe talking or going across two hours, maybe talking for two minutes each. It just feels like
Kelly:Yeah. Well, one of the things I wanted to bring up is how thankful I am for the friends and family we have made with this podcast and in specific I would like to talk a little bit about Danny willeford today. Vanessa Danny sent you several months back a Star Trek blueprints and and he helped me get this amazing Michael golden edition of art micronaut stuff that was like my favorite comic when I was a kid and my favorite artists and they released this big huge thing that was a little out of my range. And he knew somebody I assume he has mob contacts or something fell out of the back of a truck. I don't know. But he got it to me at a much reduced price which I very, very much appreciate Danny and Eric. He said a little something. Yeah.
Eric:Oh my gosh. Purple Rain. Purple vinyl 45. Single. Yeah. For those of you out there that are under 40. This is a small sized album. The size of your hand probably a little bit smaller. And thank you, man, that's really cool, although I'm not sure what hold on to the moments is, which is a cluded in in one of those, like insert inside of a magazine, right. So if that's a prince thing I'd ever heard of Whoa, holy shit. If not, do you would you like that back? Thank you, man. That's really really cool.
Kelly:Yeah, he's he's great all the people who listen and chime in and do all the fun stuff. Just really, really appreciate
Vanessa:the thoughtful, you know, like, just calm. I mean, I get sent, you know, like nice little fun pizza stuff from some people. Just really, really thoughtful and kind under their interactions with us. Absolutely. Yeah.
Kelly:All right, enough of that bullshit. One of the things I did sharp
Eric:is over.
Kelly:One of the things I did on Thanksgiving was watch a movie that disturbed me greatly, and it was called the dark and the wicked.
Eric:Amy to me, yeah.
Vanessa:What is this? Is this like a new home?
Kelly:It's a rental. Yeah. And it's relentless. I there's not a lot of story going on. And in fact, if you require an explanation for your horror, you will probably be disappointed. But I was so unnerved by this. I was watching it at night with the lights off that I had to turn the lights on in the house. And that I texted Eric and a couple other people and said, holy shit, you guys, I'm so fucking creeped out because of this movie. I am watching.
Unknown:Oh my god.
Kelly:It was It was terrifying to me. Wow.
Vanessa:Okay. Was it gross? Or was just creepy?
Kelly:gore and it's Yeah, it's about a a brother and sister who have been kind of separated from their folks for a long time. And they they find out that the dad is dying. He's on his deathbed, basically. And they decide they're going to come back and sit with him. You know, say goodbye one last time. And the shit just hits the fan. There is something haunting the family. Yeah. And there's no real explanation given but really, really bad things start to happen. And it was made by the guy who made the stranger's film, which I couldn't even finish, because that's one of my actual fears.
Vanessa:That's why you don't like Yes, yeah. Yes. That's
Eric:a messed up movie, too.
Unknown:Yeah.
Eric:My overall impression of it was Yeah, it's really nice and creepy. It does one thing drives me nuts. And if by any chance, we actually have younger filmmakers listening to this very poor little man wisdom bullshit on you. It's a really, really, really depressing film. It really is. And it's a family depressing film. The one problem is, I always get the feeling that some of the people that write these haven't had a parent die or haven't had somebody really close to them die. Because there's a weird dark humor that happens between family members after an event like that. And the film has no humor at all, at any point. Even just one weird smartass line would fit. So that's that always bugs me in films where it's like, we've got to know you want it because that actually increases the drama, you give that moment of levity, and then drop it back down again, that drop back down, gets it darker. But when all you're doing is is beating people over the head with depression eventually kind of goes, I'm checking out of this. I'm emotionally disconnecting from this film, because you're never giving me a break. And I had a little bit of that with it. But the horror elements of the film are fantastic. The performances are all top notch, which is part of what makes the depressing selectees Come on, man. But well worth well worth the rentals only like a $5. Anchor. Yeah.
Vanessa:When was this available?
Kelly:Oh, it's VOD. On on demand.
Eric:I understood that part apple and Amazon.
Kelly:I thought it was very, very scary. But then it's I don't even want to say it's polarizing. There are plenty of people who are complaining on the reviews that no explanation, but that seems to be the main complaint because it's got like an 80% from the critics and the audience on Rotten Tomatoes, so at least it's tapping into something scary. And I have said to Eric many times I've got this theory that I think with horror films, the scary is more important than the story.
Vanessa:Sure. Interesting. I've heard you say that before, but
Kelly:um, I feel like if you can just throw a lot of scary things. A person that they will kind of forget that not a lot is going on until after the movie is done.
Vanessa:Yeah, I think you're really right because there are so many films that I love that are horror films that have been No real logic to them, and I just don't care.
Eric:That's why short horror works so well to write. So it's, I agree, I think you can have both and you get a classic. Like the changeling. You get what you get just the drama and you get like, Okay, well, Mark kind of watch it. But if you get just the scary, you become blumhouse.
Kelly:Right? Right. No.
Eric:nobody watches some of their early films. It goes Wow, this story on this was really compelling.
Vanessa:No, you're it's so funny because I never thought about that way. And as like a film studies nerd, I'm kind of annoyed at myself about it. But you're absolutely right. Because story is usually the thing that I care the most about when watching a movie. But definitely I wonder if that's why critics and like the 70s and 80s like hated on horror so much. Because of the lack of
Eric:beginning. That's why we I think all of us but definitely be gravitate towards the thing, or Hellraiser or some of those that do have that really good story that goes with the scares as opposed to just the roller coaster ride of a slasher film.
Kelly:Right. Right. Anybody else see anything cool? Well,
Eric:or not cool?
Vanessa:Well, you know, I for some reason, and I can't even explain why watched season four of the crown.
Eric:So it's been you also watch Season One, two and three.
Vanessa:I had already seen them. Yes. So yeah, I enjoyed the historical like the weird stuff that I didn't know was going on. Like, I find that really fascinating because they definitely did their, their homework for these. And now like the actual characters, and that actual emotional responses are all made up. I you know, I should invest in that. I can't quite make this hat do it. But yes, slightly going blind. I have a cap. You really,
Kelly:that might be worth it. And Warren keep talking.
Vanessa:Okay, awesome. Um, so
Eric:it's about the crown. Yeah.
Vanessa:Um, this season, just like all the other seasons was incredible. They introduced the relationship of Diana, which has been long and coming and they did a great job of that they use sound and music so well. And all it does is help you understand the viewpoints of everybody. So he fits.
Eric:And it matches it goes with your hair.
Vanessa:Oh, fantastic. Yeah, for those of you who don't know, my hair is now a greenish bluish something.
Kelly:Yeah, like those dust bunnies off that thing?
Eric:Yeah, you
Vanessa:know, it's kind of take that a little bit.
Eric:Yeah, one of the one of the criticisms I've heard of the crown, I'm curious if, if this is something you feel is perfect. It's good. Um, is the I think it was described as you know, I don't need every episode to contain five minutes of somebody driving up to a large mansion or just weird establishing shots that go on for ever and ever said,
Vanessa:I have not noticed that at all. Um, usually they I feel like they use those moments where they're because the royalty is so often either in the spotlight or in the each other's presence is being judged. I feel like often when they're in the car, and then you get those big landscapes, it's usually somebody doing an introspective moment. So and if anyone has watched Downton Abbey, this is much easier to digest and Downton Abbey don't have if you're going to talk about big, long landscape shots for no frickin reason. Like the whole thing is a love letter to the Royal view. Because the guy who made Downton Abbey, I don't know if he's related to the people with the crown or not. But he has a huge love of old England and there's a fox hunting scene.
Kelly:What is the time period for this show?
Vanessa:This one is starting from when Queen Elizabeth the Second the current Queen, and first gets inaugurated all the way through I don't know how far they're gonna go. I think they're going until her it's like, I think they're probably gonna go until 2000 or 2000. Wow, I
Kelly:thought this was a much earlier. Oh, no,
Vanessa:there's a different one called Victoria the handle bad queen. But no, this one. It's interesting because it goes through sections of lives. So the first two seasons has one set of actors in it. And then the next two has a completely different set. And actually, but yeah, we've seen a few different and now they're going to switch next season will be completely different actors again, playing kind of inhabiting what those characters worth what those people were like in those moments of their life. So even when the visual switch is really big, and it still works is crazily well done sort of like that. Dylan movie that had like, yeah, four different people playing completely very similar feeling. Yeah. And if you like Olivia Coleman, she's been playing the Queen floss two seasons. And she's so um, yeah, I just you know, it's, it's a, I can't even say it's a guilty pleasure, because it's not the kind of thing I would normally love. But because of the way they do, every character you really feel like is justified in the stupid things they're doing. So Diana, you're like, Oh, my God, like you're being really judged and everything sucks for you. But then you see the Queen's perspective. And you're like, yeah, Diana is kind of a whiny little bitch. You go to Prince Charles and you feel sympathy for him, but then you hate him. And then you feel sympathy. So every character gets this moment, and they pivot so smoothly between each one that I don't know. I just think it's really interesting mixed with like a big old history lesson of like, things that didn't happen that long ago. Like the, the two they had, in the season. They had Margaret Thatcher was a big part of it. Who is played by chick from X Files? Or gillean. Yeah, well, yes. She's feeling Anderson. Yeah, she, she plays Thatcher and does a mazing job.
Eric:So some makeup there, man. It's weird. She
Vanessa:actually, you know, all they did is kind of give her blonde ish poofy hair. And she just booked. I don't know, it just feels right. It's weird. It's really weird. Went from playing Bowie. And on how that's right.
Kelly:What was the gods series? Yeah, American Gods. And now she's playing Margaret Thatcher.
Vanessa:Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. And she also did sex education. I don't know if you guys have watched that on Netflix. But it's a I mean, I really enjoyed like teen shows. I don't know why, but it's really good. It's like set in Wales, I think. Somewhere beautiful in the EU. And she's in it and she's doing an accent but fact that the show was really fun. So
Eric:nice. Well, okay, for something completely, completely different. Yes. Very bordering on sick film, called Patrick still lives. God, I watched it not realize it's actually a sequel to I think Patrick lives which is an Australian film. Just Patrick Patrick. Okay. And the idea. Have you seen the original? I've seen the original but not the sequel. So the idea of this if I think it's the same basic thing as some guy goes into a coma and then starts to control people around him. So Patrick is Yeah,
Kelly:he's he's a I want to say a teenage kid in a coma. He's got mental powers and starts kind of fucking with all the people in the hospital.
Eric:And so that's what this one is as well except he seems to have a telekinetic kinesis where I say shit and the storyline is his father brings together all the people he feel he felt put him into the coma. And then Patrick like offs them and relatively violent ways. And a scene so violent I'm uncomfortable describing but then I want here I go watch the trailer and it's in the freaking trailer. Oh. Okay, I don't even know if I can look at it as well. I described this
Vanessa:multiple hats
Kelly:deep into my eyes.
Eric:be subtle about it. He's there's this was made this 70s late 70s the entire film is like three guys three girls or something like that are being killed. All the women spend a fair amount of the time doing nothing and wearing nothing as women do. Especially Italian woman in the 70s apparently, he's gone after one of the ladies and let's see how should we describe that she's in the kitchen. Backing standing out are laying on a table back against a wall. There's the large pit sticks they used to turn full size pigs like over a fire in the kitchen. And let's just say it goes where it really shouldn't but naturally can go on a lady. Okay, I'm just gonna leave it at that.
Vanessa:Did they do a Cannibal Holocaust? Yes. Okay. I mean like I feel like so many people want to do the most ridiculous shit like that
Eric:but it almost doesn't it almost doesn't bother me because it's so stupid. Generally it doesn't for me either. But the way this is shot so graphic of like they're not gonna do a whole fuck they did that shot. Oh, man. What am I
Vanessa:for what what are we getting out of that? Like, when we're freaks you out and does bad things. You know, it's usually too Hands something else. What are you getting out of something like that? You know?
Kelly:Well, it's it's an Aussie film. They were.
Eric:She was Aussie This one is actually is Italian.
Kelly:Oh, it's Italian. Interesting. Okay, I was gonna say like, yes shelleyan set felt like they had some to prove their 80s
Eric:true the US PlayStation Yeah. But more fun generally then,
Vanessa:because it's the Australian. It's hard not to for me to be fun when there's actual Australians as well as
Kelly:soon as they start talking about like, like this guy.
Vanessa:attitude and way of dealing with life is so good. Anything they say you're like, Yeah, let's go. Do that. Barbie. Yeah, let's go jump off a cliff. Sounds good.
Kelly:I love that when the pandemic happened, they shut down. They managed to get it down to like almost zero cases and the way they were keeping people quarantine for a certain amount of time, then it's suddenly had an explosion. It's because a couple of the security guards at the hotel that they were keeping people quarantine decided to have sex with some of the people in the hotel. Then they brought it back home and everything. And the rest of the country was like, Yeah, what are you gonna do?
Vanessa:opportunity's there, I would have done the same.
Kelly:I love their attitude. Oh
Eric:my God, this one's character by a guy named Mario laundy. Who had like a 50 directing credits, including super sexy market. You know, I kind of say where my favorites may be coming from? Well,
Kelly:this Phil is would you recommend it to someone? Have you seen the original? No, it's I thought it was pretty good. It is gory, if I remember correctly. And I thought it was pretty creepy. And I didn't even know there was a sequel. And now I'm curious. Would you recommend
Eric:it? for maybe not? You know, you're not much of Italian horror fan to start?
Kelly:Does it feel like in Italian? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Eric:Maybe? Maybe? I wouldn't, I wouldn't say definitely not because enough stuff is done well enough. That it's worth checking out and it borders on, you know, really hilariously bad at times.
Kelly:Which I do, like, Yeah,
Eric:yes.
Kelly:How do you watch it?
Eric:I got it as part of a current affairs set. I think it was severan box, you know, where you get these five films. And it's like $70 less than if you bought them individually. I'm probably gonna buy at least three of these. Okay, so I'll take the pack and get this. They've
Kelly:got your number. A guy who looks at this and goes, Well, I'm losing money if I don't buy this.
Vanessa:This is the kind of film that I would lose in a friend's freezer sometime.
Unknown:Yes,
Vanessa:this is the kind of Yeah, this doesn't sound like a film that I would want here on my house. But it'd be probably,
Kelly:what are your friends say when they open up their freezer and they see an old DVD?
Vanessa:You know what, it's either gonna be a bottle of vodka that I've stored there for upwards of three years for when I come around, or it's gonna be a DVD I never wanted to see again. I've never had a complaint. Usually somebody just like, Oh, I found this weird thing. Yeah, I'm like, yep, either keep it or gifted. It's not staying in my house. The DVD
Kelly:fairy has I don't know what I did to deserve this. But I got a copy of Patrick still lives in the freezer.
Eric:You know? No, I like I like this surprising moments for people when they just don't know why the hell their life is doing what it's doing. And that's just magical. I mean, yes, everyone does that to me a lot. Because like they had one this Sunday that is two or three films like theater bizarre that they're releasing and they're releasing it with and they've got a documentary coming out that has to anthology horror films from like the 60s or something that have never been released in any form of dammit, okay.
Kelly:My favorite and the reason I love that you still collect physical media is not irregularly either show up and he'll go do you have this DVD or Blu ray and no, and he goes, Well, now you do. Like oh, well, why? Well, I ordered it and then when I went to file it away, I see. I already had it.
Vanessa:Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just had the same thing happen to me. So one of you may or may not be getting dizzy may need a copy of Candyman.
Eric:So I have the
Vanessa:res screen. Yes. All yours. I actually ordered it again. First. I just was like, I need candy. Man. It's on sale. Great. Throw it in the back. What I did with my
Eric:baby showed up for sale. Oh, it's only 18 bucks or 10. Yeah.
Vanessa:And I just, I mean, I actually have a spreadsheet to prevent myself from doing just such a thing, but somehow slipped through the cracks. Yep. So
Kelly:you need better health.
Vanessa:It's true. Or you just enjoy the free crap we both gave you. That's true.
Kelly:I also watched a movie on Hulu that I thought was pretty interesting called Sputnik, you guys See seen
Vanessa:the trailer and it looks
Kelly:freakin cool. It is frickin cool. It is Russian horror. And the idea is that when they sent Sputnik up and what is that 6768 it came back with something else. And I didn't go to look and see how true to the background story this was because I'm wondering if they were saying that, oh, our astronauts have arrived home safely and all of this stuff because one of them is dead on arrival, and the other one has brought something back with him. And it's, it's really well done. It's a little gory in a few places, and really strongly acted by a bunch of Russian actors. I don't know. And the effects are fairly decent. I think if you like, this felt like maybe if the X Files had tackled an alien movie, like the the franchise alien, that you might have ended up with something like this and might have watched it. And afterwards, I was like, that was damn good. Hulu is it? It's on Hulu. Cool.
Vanessa:That looks that's awesome, is it? I kind of got this sense by watching the trailer that they were a little bit more of a lower budget film because it looked like maybe only took place in a couple locations.
Kelly:Yeah, it's mostly in a in a experimental lab facility.
Vanessa:I mean, I think that's when you get to see actors really shine, though.
Kelly:It does look kind of low budget, but it's also taking place in late 60s, Russia, and so everything looks super drab.
Vanessa:Wow. Oh, cool. Oh my god. It's so cool. I want to watch that right now. Where are we doing this pocket?
Kelly:Well, that's it everybody.
Vanessa:Short one this week. We're all up in the old Hulu machine.
Kelly:I got a movie to watch.
Eric:He did what I did.
Vanessa:Yeah. Well, I'm happy to talk to you guys about having seen a New Mutants.
Kelly:No.
Eric:I haven't forgot. I'm not worried about okay.
Vanessa:There's Yeah, I don't even know if I yeah, it's, it's Yeah, it was interesting. Okay,
Eric:here's the thing it was it fine.
Vanessa:Um, okay. It was exactly what Kelly said. It's a mix of some really tremendously great moments. And a lot of just BS. There's just they have like, the the chick from the which is one of the main characters and then she's a great actress. I mean, she's also in Gambit. Right now. queens game queens. Damn it. She's phenomenal. She's so wasted in this fucking film
Eric:isn't the I forgot her name the younger daughter from Game of Thrones. She characters
Vanessa:actually good. They actually do, I think a decent job with her character, which is Game of Thrones. So yeah, no, and it's great. Because it kind of gives her character that you would expect after Game of Thrones, there's a little bit of a kind of lesbian relationship going on. And so I was like, You know what, this is great. Like, just like with Christians do it. Like there's a there's a vibe that comes off of some actors. It's like, just lean into it. Why not? If anyone's going to tell the story you should and she does a fucking phenomenal job of giving a I mean, I don't know. I like that. They made it normative. I think that it was great that they didn't get beaten up because they were gay.
Kelly:Well, it doesn't hurt that she's very likable. Oh my god. Yeah. And in this character, she's super likable. You definitely sympathize with her completely got but um, no, I
Vanessa:agree with you. Like, there's just there's some really great effects moments. There's some really dumb story shit happening. The whole premise is sort of fucking dumb. Like, not the idea of like haunted, weird, strange. God knows what's going on in this place. hospital that these people are kept in. But the actual structure of this thing is dumb. It's really dumb. And I think every time they bring out something big, it ends up being really stupid. So um, yeah, I don't know. Like, I, at the end of the day. I love x men. And I really, I it's been a big thing through my childhood. I was really into Fox Kids, x men, which I know is dumb because a lot of people actually watch the comics and that was where they fell in love bad. That's where I went. And then all these like new mutant style movies I've just hated. I just hate them. There will be a scene here or there. I like that. So this film to me was better than all of those, but not as good as any other x men content and say that
Kelly:I Well, I thought it was way better than The Apocalypse that's my mean. Okay, yeah,
Vanessa:yeah, absolutely better than the apocalypse every everything starting from what is it like first class or whatever?
Kelly:Oh my God first class a lot like that because I could watch Magneto go hunting Nazis with his mutant powers all day and Charles Xavier hit on chicks at bars because he could read their minds. I was like, Yeah, 60s baby. It wasn't until, you know, the last half of the movie where they got together and put the team together that I was like now the x men boo.
Vanessa:I think. I think that's what I felt too, but I will also can never forgive them for their casting of beast. I just really hate it. It is a Jamie Bell who plays him. Oh, there's just something like that. Okay. Yeah, I mean, Beast is my homeboy. So yeah, I was and he has almost no time. Maybe that's why I don't like
Eric:these guns for the x men movies is when I was younger Colossus was always when I really liked him. He has just been completely shit.
Vanessa:Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. I do like it when I have to say I loved that. The part of Deadpool where they were kind of making fun of what they had originally messed up with with Deadpool. Yeah, by making him like mutes when like his whole thing is being able to be like a wacky crazy yet. Yeah, you know, I feel like there's still room for improvement through films where they aren't financially concerned. on the same level, I would love to see and now would be a great time to do it. A God love man kills adaptation of that story. If
Eric:you ever read that graphic novel. It's one of the better x men encapsulated stories. It's a graphic novel. So it's just its own story needs to be in five part Netflix. Yeah. Really good. Get into about a senator trying to pass a law to make outlaw mutants.
Vanessa:I see this point sounds very familiar.
Eric:We've probably done an animated version. Yeah, they probably touched on it. And because it was a huge, huge it
Kelly:came out last that's a go to thing in the x men. Yep. Anyway, is to always have the politics of the mutants and all that so true. Well, I'm bummed, but I'm also glad to see that you kind of felt the same way. I did. I did see a lot of people saying hey, you know if you're if you're hating on this movie, then you're not taking it serious. Or you're taking it too seriously. And I'm like, well, that's I don't take any movie too. Seriously. I definitely. Like solid filmmaking.
Vanessa:Yeah, and that's the problem is it's loose in the wrong spots. It's so tight in weird places, like the visual effects are freakin phenomenal. You're like, Man, this power is being shown so beautifully. But then like, why did you direct that character so fucking poorly? Why? Why is this plot point? damas. Hell? Like, it's just there's a lot of weird. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you can tell who sucked at their jobs on that. Oh,
Kelly:yes.
Eric:So I've got a weird one. This isn't a movie I watched but an article I read that I thought this is an interesting example of the way you perspective of looking at things. The title of the clip clickbait title, was the classic millennials don't really care about classic movies. I'm like, Okay, let's see what,
Vanessa:immediately furious?
Eric:Oh, no, no, I'm because I'm curious going. Okay, what do they mean by classics? What are they talking about? And so, let's read this. And so a couple of the points here, less than half. And I'm going to say less than half of millennials have watched any of these movies. That's a fuckload of them, compared to the people I knew when I was in the 20s and 30s. Like Gone with the Wind Sound of Music To Kill a Mockingbird. Like, well, these movies were 2030 years old when I was 6040 5060 years old. If 40% of them have watched it, that's fucking amazing. And I have the exact opposite of that line that he's got in the review. 28% had seen Casablanca Holy shit. 28% 28 out of 100 kids have seen that movie again. Really? They're all film students and they were forced to watch. Well, even as a film student, I didn't watch Casablanca till I was probably in my 30s. Oh. But however you see him 20 percents a gigantic percentage. If you really think about Yeah, real percentage, not that people go I'm 90% sure bullshit. Nobody's 90% sure about anything. But or 38% have seen psycho and also for some reason. It's an interesting way to look at stuff when you take your numbers and you crunch them around. Because my responses That's amazing. That's fantastic that that many people are willing to watch a movie. That's what 80 years old Yeah. Yeah, I
Vanessa:mean, if I think about the films that they're equivalent to me of being that I yeah, it just feels like I haven't watched a lot of movies from like the 30s and 40s or 50s. You know, like it. I don't know what's what's the criteria? I mean, right now 80s movies or classics to the kids like they those are what me would have been, you know, checking out. Yeah, like something. Gone? Well, I don't know. But anyway, like,
Eric:I think I watch Gone with the Wind first time in my 40s. Right. That's and stills like those. I was tough. It's pretty good. Second half, man. Go to hell.
Vanessa:Yeah. Yeah, I remember watching it with my mom, when I was 16. We were in one of those movie clubs, where we had to get like, we got like, 20 free movies. And then I spent the rest of my life trying to like pay off my debt to them. And Gone with the wind was one of them. I was like, Why do people like this? frickin film? This is awful. This is awful. The whole way through? Yeah, it's
Eric:definitely not for
Vanessa:Yeah, I think some you know, it's just like, a lot of people complain about millennials ruining the economy by not buying cars or diamond rings.
Eric:This is what I find hilarious. Why, why? Why? Why do we care whether or not they spend money or time on the things that you cared about? Exactly. They may not be buying diamond rings and cars, but they are buying massive computers, huge streaming services that are now worth fortune. So it's just a shift in the money. Yes, Jan, whatever the stall word was for the 50s and 60s. It's a different world now. Stop trying
Vanessa:to live in that time. Economically angry that is not the exact same thing that in like, now we're just I feel like a lot of the younger generation is a little more aware. It's like well, cars are pollutants and like they're very expensive. And they you know, whatever, whatever. And diamond rings are often blood diamonds and like an artificially inflated in price. We're just a little smarter. Because the internet because we have the information that are both sides of that from the internet a little smarter and a little hundred percent human would not.
Kelly:Also, I mean, everybody, nowadays, the young kids these days, they experience their content a lot differently than even we did and especially different than the people who are watching Gone with the Wind in the theaters. Oh, yeah. content. So when you've just got an unending supply of content and stuff that you know that you like, some of these movies feel like homework,
Vanessa:and they are I mean, that's why I watched a lot of these movies is either I wanted to sound smart, or I needed to first class. Like I wanted to be the cool kid who saw every Woody Allen movie and dang it I died did at the time. And
Eric:yeah, I get to be nice and Oh really? Because I've never liked never liked I hated him on screen. Yeah, cuz writing was good. He wrote some really good movies that he's not in. Yeah, but he bugged the shit out of me. Just like hey, you know, Bob Dylan wrote a lot of great songs. But I don't like listening to him.
Vanessa:Yeah, it's okay
Eric:to not like do with him being a raging asshole. I didn't like him in the 80s so
Vanessa:there's lots of reasons to not like
Eric:what he didn't like him first.
Vanessa:Yeah, and I hundred percent and I think a lot of people liked him because it was cool to like him. Like I dated a guy I wanted to impress who loved Woody Allen so I watched a lot of Woody Allen and said I really liked freaking bananas. And you know what, in retrospect, I don't think I like bananas that much. I don't think it's that good. What's
Eric:the one called what's up Tiger Lily. I'm
Kelly:hot takes Yeah, you know, I love a good one that I like, and everything you always want to know about sex.
Vanessa:Crimes and Misdemeanors. I like the Allen that's Alan Alda, right. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, I think I like that one. All right. How
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Kelly:We are back. And if you noticed probably the last several episodes, we are back without any commercial advertisements except for the lovely old style ones that Eric drops every week. That's because we switch to a new provider, right?
Eric:Yep. Yeah, we got a new podcast. What's it called? support. But the providing us a little bit more flexibility in what we can do and maybe a little more flexibility and help with weird shit goes wrong. Like, luckily, I checked it because when I went to put up the last podcast last week, the one that went on Thanksgiving, I didn't put the intro music again. So I started playing going. Quiet. I was gonna skip forward, though. It's all here, there. Okay, here's all the but if I had done that with the previous one, it would have been a real pain in the ass but don't have this one. It's very easy to replace. And
Vanessa:I'm really excited. I'm a little sad that we won't hear about like mattresses and whatever else. plumber suppliers and stuff that you know,
Eric:now we have mattress suppliers or plumber suppliers would like to broadcast on our show. If we get any profit from those ads weren't for us or from us. They were from the podcasting service. We're using it that time. Which you know, is a great, I'm going to demand that anybody who wants to advertise with us, lets us do live reads
Kelly:and make it part of the show. That's so funny. Like so you guys. I was watching a movie last night on my brand new mattress.
Vanessa:That would actually be pretty freaking cool.
Kelly:Anyway, Eric, this is your choice. And it was you wanted to do something like with broadcast
Eric:via radio personalities and or a movie that depends heavily on radio signals in some way. Cool. And I chose poorly.
Kelly:Oh no.
Eric:It was such a tight timeframe with thanksgiving and all the stuff that was going on. That's like okay, shit. It's Saturday night we record on Sundays. I better watch this movie. It was different the year down 2000 and something the nightless scenario
Kelly:tells us stories to the world
Eric:Studios in New York City.
Unknown:Gabriel do
Eric:take this with you and we're publishing it next quarter.
Kelly:Then he read a story he couldn't forget I read your book. really
Unknown:know anyone who actually met people
Kelly:in the search for the truth. I did some research. There is no record of any people going in any kind of hospital even drawn into a ministry ever thought
Eric:about a voiceprint
Vanessa:they're as good as fingerprints that
Kelly:has a deadly secret. There's no way I'm taking you to see it. No way.
Vanessa:Your story doesn't have an ending. Listen.
Kelly:I think it's 2019 or something. Isn't that random?
Eric:I'll find out but hey, it was on CBS all access. That's I have that for my obsessive Star Trek.
Unknown:Yeah,
Eric:they're great. I'll just watch it there but it is available to rent in other formats and stuff. So it's not hard to find.
Kelly:You tell us about it and I'll find out what year it is. Okay, that
Eric:sounds good. It has a rotten tomatoes rating which I think is probably accurate of 40% from critics and 35 from the audience. It did however have a$4 million budget and a $10 million worldwide box office so did alright because it did not have an advertising budget that was that large. Wow.
Kelly:It's from 2006 so it's not the one I'm thinking of
Eric:And I mean, I had to open in 1300 screens in the US when I first came out. So it had a pretty wide release is directed by Patrick stettner whose only real crack find otherwise was the business of strangers. He also was a co writer on it, but all of his stuff he's written his stuff he's directed. The This is based on a novel by Armistead Maupin, who wrote the novel and four miniseries called Tales of the City, which I'm not familiar with but and some guy named Terry Anderson that if you pick click on his link and IMDb has nothing like why is this even a link goes nowhere. But why this movie should have been good. Let's see the lead. Lady in it. It's Toni Collette.
Kelly:Oh, my crush.
Eric:knives out hearts be loudly hereditary. Have you seen heartbeat loudly? You need to see it. Oh, that's such a feel good film and she is so good at it. And Robin Williams? Well, as the main radio guy,
Vanessa:was this one of his last
Eric:2009 So yeah, but it was one of his later ones. Yeah. Joe Morton, who's in speed and TV show called God friended me. Oh, and also, what was that one scandal? scandal. And Sandra Oh, from Grey's Anatomy and killing Eve. And finally, Rory Culkin signs and lords of chaos, which is actually pretty damn good. And
Kelly:yeah, like any
Eric:Yeah, so Okay, this cask on. Tasty This is gonna be
Unknown:good.
Eric:And the basic right up as I just scraped on I am to be in the midst of his crumbling relationship, a radio show host begins speaking to his biggest fan a young boy via telephone only. But when questions about the boy's identity come up the hosts life is thrown into chaos. Hey, a very great exaggeration in that last line my
Kelly:day say hey, Erica, take two I really liked that delivery but a little bit bigger.
Eric:Okay. But this is based on a true story. It's part of what makes it different. There's two versions once an hour 21 minutes one's an hour and 31 minutes I watched the one that's an hour and 21 minutes and I don't care what those missing 10 minutes were. The Robin Williams is a gay radio broadcaster, which comes into effect because the kid in the original book kid is dying of AIDS. I believe he's also dying of AIDS in the in the movie, but I don't remember. But he Robin Williams is a broadcaster who tells sort of a story time and he's got Of course big fans and get contacted by this kid's mother wanted to talk to him and stuff. In the movie, his ex. Here's Colette and Caulkins voices over the phone was supposed to be called Caulkins voices he was both really sound like the mom. If you ever met this kid, does anybody you know anybody that's met this kid and put him his characters like no, never met him. And so he decides he's going to he gets into the next day. I know, this is the movie. So I don't I'm sure it didn't happen this way in real life. But next day, he gets invited to spend Christmas with his family. And so he takes that up, but in the last moment she cancels, the mom cancels the Christmas thing. And so Robin Williams decides, well, I'm just gonna go up, show up. Now the one of the big differences between the real story and the movie was him and his partner. Were like the Hardy Boys, they work together trying to figure out what was going on. In the movie. They're estranged. They're not mean, but they're not really together. That's a weird story changed because I forgot the name of the actor that plays his ex, but he's great. He should have been in the movie war. The scenes of the two of them together are some of the most compelling scenes in the film until him and Collette are in the same movie. So he goes to that city and finds his like in a restaurant and through one of those. pay a glass things you see between benches. Sometimes he hears her talking and follows her. And again, all seems like this should lead to a compelling thing. Because this is an interesting story. This is an interesting concept. It's not an unusual story that somebody would lie to somebody famous to get attention from them. I mean, it's an actual like syndrome. Yeah,
Vanessa:like catfishing isn't that what that
Eric:was? That's right. It's been turned into an laurentides baby. It's actually psychological. Wanting to be near a famous As person or feeling or elevating yourself, because she not only lied to him, he lied to the whole town. When she lied to the whole town when he gets to that dining, the exact same picture that he has of the kid is above the restaurants on the restaurants wall. And when he tries to come, he tries that kind of ask the waitress, what about this? I see this kid here got this picture, you know, but and when he tries to imply tries to figure out Has anybody ever seen the kid, the waitress actually gets really pissed at him, because the mother has mentally invested her in caring about the kid. So she's been manipulated the whole town to think that this kid is just in the hospital. And it's obviously when they meet that she's got a little Annie welcome dinner, and starts to get a little creepy. But so he gets too close. And hey, Star Trek makes an appearance as an insult about geeks.
Vanessa:Her a very
Eric:modern Android. And he basically figures out that she's full of shit. And it is about that exciting when it's revealed. It's sort of like, here's your menu, sir. Oh, I see you serve food. Yes. And that's all Wow, it is so vanilla. And so boring. And it started to get to this point where this feels like they're wrapping the movie up. But this can't be the ending. So little has happened. There's got to be some moment of drama. And so you know, I did the thing where you see how much movies left? There's like five minutes left. Oh, no, my god.
Kelly:Watch somebody better die quick.
Eric:Shit, is watching this with Dean. And she's like, no, like, this is it? This is all the movies gonna be at. So it ends with her. Oh, yeah, spoiler like we're talking about earlier. But this one, like some of the warnings that Vanessa has given us over the years. I don't care about spoiling because it's not really even a damn ending. He goes back to work. She revealed that she wasn't actually blind and she's there someplace renting an apartment explaining to the real estate agent that her son is in the hospital and she needs a place close to where he lives. So she had visited recently. And that's the end of the movie. The film though premiered at Sundance and at the Berlin International Film Festival hi
Kelly:got some star power. Robin
Eric:Williams and Tony. I think that's a if that had been Joe Blow and Jane blow. Nobody would have been to see this film. But you put the cast is so good. Which is kind of why I think the director hasn't done a lot of movies since. Like, did you must have Robin Williams. Tony, come on. Yes. My final note on the film was Well, shit that was disappointing. Based on a true story, it was the SIR it was used in a 2002 episode of Law and Order Criminal Intent, you know, because every story is used by real crime story. But it borrowed far more from the book. The movie is real. The movies fairly faithful to the original story until he gets on the plane to go visit her. Which is interesting, because that first part of the film, when it should be the setup and be sort of boring. And then he gets on the plane and gets really interesting. That first half was pretty good, as well done as well moved. Mystery was built well then he gets on the plane and he starts to unravel the mystery and it gets really boring. Like how did you do this? Let's see they book tour. He had a number of famous people come to him and say when he was touring with the book, The writers turns book that they've had that happen to them as well. Robin Williams and Rory Culkin both have the same birthday.
Unknown:Oh, fun back.
Kelly:Wow. We're really deep.
Eric:Mike South la sala San Francisco Chronicle described it as a movie with lots of heart but no heartbeat. It feels infected by a malaise at the film is intelligent and integrity and can't be dismissed. That's actually a pretty good description. Because I felt invested in watching it. But the ending was so disappointing. That it really just colored the rest of the movie.
Vanessa:I just wonder Actually, it's not that the film can't be missed, but the story itself Yeah. Yeah.
Eric:But yeah, that's I should have gone with Pontypool or Texas Chainsaw to or some.
Kelly:Peter Travers get it, uh, gave it a minus and stunning can't be missed. Like he says about every fucking movie.
Eric:So what did you see?
Vanessa:Absolutely. Well, you know what, um, Kelly, you really inspired me? Oh, you talked about a movie that sounded just so phenomenal that I Really I kind of begged you guys to let me use it. Even though we sort of touched on it lately, but you know, we'll get a few more fun facts going. And that is the 2020 film love and monsters.
Kelly:Cuz it's terrible.
Unknown:I love you.
Kelly:Monster uprising was the day I lost everyone.
Unknown:Only a small fraction of humanity survived to move into Brown. I've been scanning for me the entire time. And now I finally found her. Tony it's an impossible journey ever tried to kill? Don't just run and hide. Okay. You all want to start listen to your instincts out here, man. What if I have terrible instincts? encouraging speech. We have losses. We can still take it was awesome. Nice.
Vanessa:No, I'm yeah, this is a online rental film I purchased. I'm sorry, it wasn't rental. I had to purchase it to watch it on Amazon. That was my only choice.
Eric:Screen version of a Well,
Vanessa:yeah, it was $20. And I couldn't. It was $20 for any version I bought whether it was 4k, HD or SD. And I only had the option to purchase
Eric:weird. That's weird. Yeah, it was the same price. Present the rent for like 20
Kelly:I think it was 1495. It was But still,
Vanessa:yeah, I don't know what shifted. That's the only way it's fine.
Kelly:I sure hope that this is gonna be a positive review 20 bucks on
Vanessa:exactly how I felt I was like, I suck.
Eric:I have to leave my TV in the freezer for this one.
Vanessa:freezers little too full with the leftovers right now. So um, so this, this film was made in the US and 109 minutes long budget of 30 million bucks Office of 1.1. Which makes a lot of sense, because, um, it was supposed to be released in like March before COVID. And then they had to push for various reasons to April, which meant it couldn't really be released. And then when it was released, it had a really good opening weekend. But that's compared to the zero films that are out and how many people can actually go. So I think it's probably made a lot more money. I don't know if we just don't know how to calculate that yet. Or if people aren't sharing those numbers when it's a VOD. You know,
Kelly:if you're smart. And you look at what's been released in theaters during the pandemic, you can win your weekend pretty easily number one at the box office. Yeah, I
Eric:just don't put the year next to it. But you're right, because I've done a lot of research over the years looking for, like to put together business plans and things for raising capital for film, but streaming and digital releasing is very secretive.
Vanessa:Yeah, it's very weird. And I know that like Netflix is obviously famous for this because they won't release which films have made money or what you know, like, I don't know what their system is. They have some algorithm and they use it and that's why sometimes great shows disappeared. Because Nope, not enough people are going to sign up for the service for season four whatever it is, though. This we're entering a very strange new world. But at least this strange new world allowed me to see this movie. Yeah. I'm very, very excited about that. So as far as Rotten Tomatoes go, actually very good. 91% critics and 80% audience Wow. Nice. Yes, super highly rated. Now, what surprised me is the talent behind it. So the director is a guy named Michael Matthews. And this is his second ever feature. Wow. He did two shorts before that. At least on IMDB or Yeah, that's that's all we've got listed the film before. This one was called five fingers for more sane, which is a contemporary Western set in South Africa. And it got like five Academy Awards in Africa. Wow. But I've never even heard of it. Right. Yeah, I don't know how this film is what got him this directorial debut for this project. Um, I will also say his IMDb picture is just about the most pompous director picture ever. So bad he's like in a frickin raincoat. And it's dark. And like he looks like Oh, yes, I'm in a
Unknown:cool.
Kelly:Oh, boy. Yeah, he's got like, at least at least he's not posing at least that's that looks like a candid shot. I don't know. Look. I will.
Vanessa:I think he's posing. Oh,
Eric:nice. It's got a nice light line on that. That coat and other hat.
Vanessa:I guess maybe the guy walking behind and might be a clue that it's handed but yeah, it's really pompous as shit the writer and you know, you start to see a little bit more of maybe where this came out of Brian Duffield. He's only done, done 10 things. But that includes the Divergent series, which was kind of his first big thing. And then he also did James Gunn, which I'm not a fan of, but I know a lot of people liked. He did babysitter he did underwater, babysitter, killer, Queen, and spontaneous, which I heard is very good. And seem to be coming out. Vivian hasn't been herself lately, which I don't know anything about. But, um, so he doesn't have a ton of credits, but the credits he has pretty strong. And then the other writer on it, and Matthew Robinson. And I don't know what he contributed. He didn't like monster truck and Dora and the lost city of gold. Also, the 2020 Golden Globe Award. I don't know what that involves, but
Eric:writing really cheesy jokes, actors to say way
Kelly:down and not worrying about getting a reaction this time because nobody could actually sit in the audience.
Vanessa:Exactly, exactly. I think where this really comes out of it is the producer Shawn Levy. Now this producer had done a lot of directing projects before like Stranger Things real seal Night at the Museum, and is also going to be directing star man. As far as producing, he produces films as well, but he also did our rival. So I think it's a very talented person who's collected other very talented people and really knows what he's doing. And I think this was a passion project.
Eric:we wind up quickly, because they're a remake of john Carpenter's Starman
Vanessa:coming out yesterday.
Kelly:I know I am not doing all happy about this. Do we know this is a remake and not just a film with the
Vanessa:remake? I looked up the
Kelly:way if there's any Carpenter film that doesn't need star man is just about perfect. It's so good. It's one of my favorite films and yeah, I'm
Vanessa:really better not fuck it up.
Unknown:That's just don't watch it.
Vanessa:You know? That's, that's what I did with Wicker Man. I just didn't watch it was probably the right solution. Um, the stars in it super good talent. Um, you've got Dylan O'Brien playing Joel. You guys would remember him as Thomas from Maze Runner. Like all the Maze Runner? Sure. That's definitely where he came out of.
Kelly:Well, I remember a mess styles from the Teen Wolf.
Vanessa:He's also known from that's kind of what he ended up doing afterwards. And did you know he was the voice of Bumblebee and the bumblebee movie?
Kelly:I did not but I did love that movie. I
Vanessa:loved it too. I don't know what that talent actually involves. Because Bumblebee doesn't say a whole hell of a lot. Oh, good
Kelly:point. He talks a radio
Eric:group. Exactly talent presented by then. Just making weird little noises.
Vanessa:It's true. It's true. Yeah, exactly. I am. I'm loving this kit like in the Maze Runner. My favorite thing about the Maze Runner was the amount of effort he put into running. He's really good at just running on screen. I've never been so impressed by somebody just running of a new Tom Cruise. Is that what you're saying? He just falls over any slides and slips and everything about it seems like he's putting his whole self in as I was very impressed with them. Jessica henwick plays the love interest. Amy, she's in the new blood of Zeus thing. She's actually got a long history of being in a lot of Avengers style stuff. So she's an iron fist as Colleen wing. She also was in underwater she was that chick that cried a lot.
Unknown:Yeah. And
Eric:I freaking hated her IMDb credit chick that cried a lot.
Vanessa:A lot. Just frickin stop. And then, um, I like that movie a lot. But that bugged me. And then Game of Thrones played into Martin Tamara Marissa sand. So she's been bopping around for a little while. She started off Fun fact, in St. Trinian's two, which is very special to my heart, because the first one I ever worked on was St. Trinian's one. both pieces of garbage, but nonetheless, feel closer. You also have Michael work, which I know and Kelly pointed out before when he seen it by he's been in 125 things kind of plays this older man character. All I can say Mary Mary, I'm Mary Poppins, motherfucker, right isn't me. So that's all you need to know. Don't worry about this. I actually was really surprised to find out who's Henry and Henry portraits or Oh, killer. I did not realize so that was a big surprise for me. And Dan Ewing, who plays the like, guy with a yacht in this movie. He's basically the Australian man. He was in 595 episodes of Home and Away. I love I was like, This guy looks really familiar. And when I lived in England, and was the student home in a way would play every day and me and my roommates would like sit and watch it and it's a dumb Australian soap opera, but damn, it was good. It was a good fun soap opera. And last last but not least, area on a green blot, who plays a little girl named minnow. And she was in the Avengers film is young Gomorrah, she hasn't done a lot else. She was just in Scoob as the voice of young Velma. But she's I think she's got a good career ahead of her.
Kelly:She was really good. Yeah, she
Vanessa:was really fun. So you guys have both seen this, right? Yes. Okay. And tastic. So the story is, it's great because we kind of start off with this vo which is always terrifying. Like, where are we going with this? Let me catch you up on what happened in the world. Like, oh my god, I hope this is gonna be not terrible, because we've introduced a mechanic but actually a really fun, really fun mechanic. The voiceover is a really neat, and it has some really neat uses. And it introduces us to the space that we're we're going to be living in for 100 and something augmented. The world has ended. Basically, there was an asteroid headed towards Earth. And so they threw a lot of nukes, I believe. And then the fallout rained back down onto Earth, and mutated. A lot of the earth creatures, mostly the bugs in amphibians to be super sized giant killers, much more dangerous, monstrous creatures,
Eric:which you get when you work against science and go off movies and TV as your relevant way of dealing with Oh, an asteroid coming to the earth. Ah, I saw I know how to get this. Yeah, somebody called Aerosmith. We need music.
Vanessa:Yeah, it's very on the nose is very telling and knows what it's working with. There's a lot of like nods to other like classic b movies from the 50s of you know, remember when these giant ants were the scary creature. He has an interesting because they throw us right into the plot. There's no like, I thought this film was gonna be a big part of him trying to find his girlfriend who he had lost seven years ago on the day of the big thing that happens. But no, he's actually we start he's already founder. He's been talking to her on the radio for a week. He's basically gone through hundreds of radio channels just calling out trying to find it. There's a bunch of little underground bunkers where different people are kind of surviving together in these little packs. And he's found her and he's you know, we're just kind of introduced to this life of loneliness and sadness. I he said he's not he's basically become the default chef for his little boy, he's not a good at it. He's never allowed to go outside because he sucks at fighting. He has like a freezing problem. No matter what happens. He just stands there and just looks at it really scared, which is pretty beautiful. And so all of his sort of Bunker mates are just like, No, no, stay here. Really no stay here.
Eric:But one thing that's nice I thought about that is it's not they're not belittling him. No, Sara Lee, but they know they know the truth where he should wait. His strengths are
Vanessa:Yeah, exactly. It's like a bullying thing.
Unknown:What do you normally hear it is?
Vanessa:Absolutely and in fact, the reason why he's feeling bad is it's really nice. He's like, it's a lot like being in a college. dorm which actually, if you think about it, this kind of situation would be, and everyone is like Holly's hooked up with each other, everyone banging all the time, and he's just alone to hang out with this cow. And this like robot that doesn't work. Like, I'm just, I need something in my life and I have nothing. So on one particular breach that occurs and everyone's you know, like, No, no, it's fine. But there's this breach, but it's scary. And we lost somebody, but you know, don't worry about it. He's like, you know what, no, I'm, you went, I'm gonna go, I'm good. I'm ready to have an adventure. Like they didn't let him fight. And so he snuck out and didn't go well, he, you know, he set up for disaster. I love that they introduced this character in such a useful way of saying, This is who we're dealing with, and we're going to send him out into the world. And these are the stakes. It's about the journey. That's this is the film that is just another one GM movies that people just walking. Is, but it's so good. I mean, they. So you know, he's going basically trying to get like, what, like 80 miles or something to where this radio other colony is this other radio point that he's trying to get to the love of his life, and he's passionate, desperate, together, we'll do anything he can to get to his girlfriend he hasn't seen in seven years, don't worry, I'm sure everything's fine. They haven't seen each other since this day. But anyway, have you guys seen, um, you know, in the loop, the horrible Amazon series that's based off the really good art, yes. Where it's this kind of these beautiful landscapes at the end of the world, or some strange near future with odd robot things or creatures or whatever. That's what it reminds me of a lot. There's a lot of visuals where they go to these wide shots. And it's like, I'm at one point, he's walking over a bridge. And there's like a school bus in the water below. And it's on top of an enormous dead ant. And he'll be like walking along a cliff side and they pull out and there's like these strange like, insect pods on the side of the cliff, it's just the details are so cool that even if there was no story in it, it would be a lot of fun to watch. But as it is, it's freaking, it's a great story. You know, you're following this guy. He needs a couple of other really neat characters, an older man and a young girl who he travels with for a little bit, they teach him a lot about the world he didn't know. And you watch him grow and and learn how to deal with things in a way that he has previously been completely incompatible with. And he has this habit slash hobby of drawing. In the beginning, he sucks. And there's like seven years later, and all of a sudden, his art is so good. Seven years to do nothing, but just draw. And so he's making this sort of monster manual as he's going through the world where every time he encounters a creature, he's like Gary Gygax. So good, and it's like, he doesn't quite know what they are. And then Holy Cross it out. Once he figures out what the monster actually does. It's just a really just good touches. I he does make it I will say, and then the plot has a few more moments in it that you get this sort of weird yacht Captain who's taken over this other colony and you're kind of like, what is going on feels like a sinister presence and all the things that he has learned along the way, come into play in the final act of this film, and it's just so neatly buttoned up. Um, the things I liked about this film, one of his companions along the way as a dog.
Kelly:Yeah, it's very fall out like game. But it's so good. The dog is so good dog has its own little character ticks too. So you're, you're good fall in love with the dog pretty dang quick.
Vanessa:Oh my gosh, absolutely. Like the dog has such a personality his dog has his own home dog is only selling things he cares about has his own character flaws and character pluses. Basically, um, the main character lacks any kind of natural instinct. And the dog fills that in. Yeah, and it's such they have to exist kind of together to make it work. And it's just so cool. Um, the, there's other layers that there's details on the way like Mavis so there's this dead robot, like I mentioned before that's hanging out in the camp. And he's like, oh, the old Mavis bottom model was pretty cool when he comes across the real living Mavis model, which is kind of like a future next steps for us. If the Alexa gets like some legs, and a like electronic screen face through and becomes a default therapist. It's just really neat. Anyway, monster designs are freakin incredible that they actually do do some practical in here, which is really well incorporated with a mix of visual effects. The first monster you get I was like, Wait, are those real legs? Real giant bug lay Oh my god, it is and then yes, okay, then we have some visual effects, but like, really well married together, so it gives it a really great feel. And there's a lot it's a love letter to a lot of previous sci fi horror works. And yeah, there's just a lot of really great details. Um, quick question. Yeah.
Eric:What is the connection to radio broadcasting? though?
Vanessa:That's a great question. So the radio comes into play in that that is his connection to the girl that he's trying to seek, he has spent all this time on the radio. And as he travels, he's got to find kind of, there's very few moments where he's able to use the radio to check back in on her or on his camp. And one of those moments is using perhaps the robot perhaps to radio and and check and then when he gets to the other side, he radios back to the previous place. And, you know, kind of has one of those moments of perfect, yeah, like, I I do care about the people opinions. Every single time I was like, How many times are you gonna make this journey? Like? Are you gonna be like, Oh, man, but those people are really what was useful. But yes, radio definitely plays a pretty strong role in this. I, for some reason, who's good at that he's good, but only kind of good at a lot of things, but in the world has been depopulated by like, 90%. So that's like, Hey, you know how to cook ramen, you're our chef. don't like about this, there's kind of multiple endings. And one of those endings doesn't make much sense in context. There's a lot of kind of, we are going to stay in this bunker or leave this bunker for whatever reasons. And one of the bunkers really probably shouldn't leave. Were there for numerous reasons. I'm like, why, why, okay, whenever there's a small, weird, the characters are developed really nicely. And at one point, they kind of blow the book. They're like, Okay, we've got this really satisfying moment. Everything's cool the characters are that have grown and become who they are. And then they just, like, kind of regress for a second, and I'm not sure I dug that. Yeah, there's, there's a few turns, there's a few emotional turns that don't make a lot of sense. And they there's a young girl that he encounters with the old guy, Mary Poppins dude. In the young girl starts off being like, oh, you're dumb, you don't know what you're doing, you're gonna die. And then she, like, discovered, decides she loves him. And he's like, one of her favorite people very quickly. There's no another moment where he gets mad at the dog. But like, he's like, you're always doing this dumb thing, dog. And I'm like, this is the first time a dog has ever done
Kelly:this thing. That scene made me wonder if there was a scene cut. I was like, that stuck out to me, too, is and why would you phrase it this way when we never seen the dog,
Eric:especially a movie that sets up and delivers almost perfectly every element that they
Vanessa:absolutely, I was like, there was just a few rushed moments, I must have been at time thing because I was just like, there. What What is happening here? Um, but yeah, so ultimately, I would really, really recommend this film. I think it's worth the 20 bucks. I I'm happy I now own it. I can watch it multiple times. If you enjoy, like john Hughes style movies, and you like fun romance, kind of films that are just funny and upbeat, as well as under the world pieces. This is for you. This is a film made for me.
Kelly:So happy to hear that.
Vanessa:Thank you for the recommendation I never would have actually watched otherwise.
Kelly:This has been a year where I've seen a couple of movies that I thought might have made people stars. I thought that this kid this Dylan kid might have you know blown up after this film if it had been allowed to go to theaters I just walked into the with Frank Grillo and at that I was like, Fuck, this movie would have been gigantic and I would have finally given that guy some of the recognition he deserves and it's just like, oh, everybody's kind of at square one again. Now
Vanessa:I know the whole system is like so thrown out. Because maybe a lot of people are watching these films and thinking oh my god, this is incredible star like Pedro Pascal Mandalorian right. Like and he has had that opportunity to be like fuck this guy's got so star power now. But I think people are recognizing them, but there's no monetary way of tracking it for investors in Hollywood. And that's the problem that we have available to Yeah,
Eric:I'm sure there's something
Kelly:Yeah.
Eric:If you've got a $20 million budget or more, you could probably get the end
Vanessa:it's just hard because you don't know if like, you know 50% of teenage girls with brown hair on Tuesdays went and saw this film and thought it was great. And bought extra popcorn. You just don't have that system anymore.
Kelly:There's a little bit of the you know, you go on to I am Pro and, you know, you check your star rating, I'm sitting at a cool 568,289 this week. But, you know, somebody like Dylan O'Brien is probably sitting in the thousands now. And there's got to be some way that people are kind of looking at this guy is getting looked up a lot for some reason. And we're gonna attach a value to that, that name recognition or whatever it is.
Vanessa:So basically, if you enjoyed a film, or you enjoyed a star, a Google then or be socially post their name somewhere exactly, because that star meter does count in somehow, if you're you're posting stuff on or linking to a film to rant or whatever. Yeah, Twitter is really carefully monitored. And so I know that they actually have a monitor, they say, they've been monitored, monitoring the words that are used to do this big experiment on like, emotional states of people. So yeah, so every single word that has been said, or used on Twitter since like, 2002, or something as been tracked, so people are leveraging that information now in additional ways. So absolutely tweet about it, you know, do some good. Also.
Kelly:I mean, I was a little shocked to hear those Rotten Tomatoes numbers there. So that's gotta count for something. In a year where we can't look at Box Office, if you can look and see that the audience and the critics are kind of loving a movie, hopefully, I'd really like to see that kid. You know,
Vanessa:I think we'll do really well. I mean, I think he killed it in Maze Runner. And before we move on over to you, Kelly, I actually, I have to say there's a couple of really neat things I learned including about that, that kid. So um, the stunts for this film were done by Glenn's super blend super started working with Dylan O'Brien on Maze Runner three. The reason why he started working with Dylan was Dylan was seriously injured on Maze Runner three and where they were shooting a scene with a kind of Chase, I believe, between a car and a train. And Dylan was dragged underneath the vehicle and got a concussion, he fractured his cheekbones fractured his orbital socket, as well as having lacerations. Um, the scene is actually used in the film, they asked because it was the best shot and they asked his permission. And he actually said, I actually hope you do use it, because I went through so much to make that happen. Please do. But for the rest of that film. And I think this is probably one of those film examples where people were like, you know what, let's just do CGI for moving train. Like maybe we don't need to actually strap a child to vehicles and to throw them across things. Um, but what I actually finished the post for that, but I thought it was really neat that Dylan is bringing the stunt guy with him from project to project. The sons also were kind of a challenge for the female lead star, because she was too competent. She already knew a lot of stunts from all the Marvel TV shows she done. So she does a little bit fighting near the end. And they had to really scale it back and be like, No, no, no, no, no, no,
Unknown:no, no, no,
Vanessa:you got to suck a little bit. And she's like, oh, but I know how to do. This debut, the debut weekend that this came out on streaming. It was the number one rental film for Fandango now an Apple TV. So there you go, it goes to a whopping 255 K and theaters that opening weekend.
Eric:Number one movie. Yeah, it
Vanessa:was up there. It played in 387 theaters, I'm sure that a lot of people were actually able to go and that the dog was actually played by two dogs. One was named hero, and the other was named dodge. Oh,
Kelly:by the way, throwing that child under the train. He's 29
Vanessa:was he? How old was he during Maze Runner?
Kelly:Well, oh,
Eric:it is what is amazing.
Vanessa:Though, yeah,
Kelly:yeah, he plays a good teenage kid. Yeah, you're right. J Fox quality about him
Eric:does little better than Olivia Newton john and john travolta in Greece. teenager.
Vanessa:I will say he reminded me a lot of Um, oh, who's that kid from the OC Adam Brody. Adrian Brody. Yeah,
Kelly:yeah, he does. Yeah,
Vanessa:he looks like him, but he's more talented actor. He's good. He's super watchable. But he can really only play one or two thing.
Kelly:I always love how Hollywood has their versions of people too. So in Teen Wolf, he's kind of the nerdy friend and I'm like, I don't remember any nerdy friend who had ABS like that. Handsome. That's weird.
Vanessa:I'm gonna have to check that out. Actually, after this. I did notice that he had two different names then you'll have to tell me his two different names in team wolf. Does that mean He has a wolf name and a human name.
Kelly:Oh, I don't know. I watched the first two seasons which I liked very much and then it kind of fell apart. Okay, that show was created and a lot of the episodes were directed by Russell Mulcahy, who Created and directed Highlander, Razorback, and any Duran Duran video you've ever seen. Well,
Vanessa:I've seen at least one
Kelly:all right. It's my turn. Everybody Shut up. All right, all right. I picked a movie that doesn't have a gigantic radio personality presence in it. But you'll know why when I get to him, and it is called captive state.
Unknown:baby brother.
Eric:You gotta pick aside Hello, Gabriel.
Unknown:When a lawyer, you and I both all those days are gone. You have a choice to make.
Eric:work for me. We don't have much time.
Unknown:amongst ourselves, we need the legislator to show us a better way of protecting us from anarchy. tell our friends down below. They got our full operational support.
Eric:harmony, peace. It's alive. They don't take everything.
Kelly:What do you want me to do? As we fight back, we got a chance.
Eric:We're facing a full blown insurgency known as Phoenix. the network's communicate.
Unknown:The team goes tonight.
Vanessa:Hello, Gabriel.
Unknown:You have a job to do. facing you.
Kelly:Take the risk, if that's the way that things used to be.
Eric:Those days are gone.
Vanessa:I remember this. I didn't see it. But I remember really wanting to see it until people said it sucked.
Kelly:Okay, so 2019 it had a budget of $25 million in a box office of about 9 million. Wow, the rotten tomatoes. Critic score is 44% and the audience is 37%. And I have theories on this.
Vanessa:Okay. I'm so curious.
Kelly:It stars john Goodman, who you might know from King Ralph. Hey, the Flintstones and the yellow m&m.
Vanessa:If you really the
Kelly:yellow m&m for a couple years he was out there. It also stars Ashton Sanders who was in moonlight and equalizer two, and Jonathan majors who you would probably know as Atticus the lead in Lovecraft country. Okay. So the story starts with a very tense situation, a police detective who's driving his wife and sons out of what looks to be a military coup or something like that is going on. All the streets are shut down. There's flashing cops at every at the end of every street, and he's like driving around trying to kind of figure out what to do and every time he turns a corner and sees that he whips the wheel around, and cops are starting to yell at him and everything. He gets stopped at a police located and decides to stomp on the gas and run and they go busting through barricades with cops chasing them and everything and then they end up in this very long empty tunnel with something at the end that is scaring them very much when they see it. And you see these figures kind of start walking towards him and his wife is like, back up, back up. And he starts trying to back up and then they are instantly vaporized into a clouds of blood. And the the two sons are alive in the backseat and we see an alien and it is a pretty fucking cool looking alien. it crawls up on the hood of the car and looks at them and the spikes kind of pop out of its back And you're like, holy shit, look at this 10 years later,
Vanessa:a lot has happened.
Kelly:So we're now in Chicago 10 years after an extraterrestrial force has invaded the earth, and now occupies it. So our story mostly follows the two sons that we met earlier on. But it kind of touches on the lives of everyone who has been affected, not just the survivors of an occupying Alien Force. But the natural idea of there would now be human collaborators with these aliens. And I think that's probably where the low score comes from. This is a story about humans in a world that has been occupied by aliens. And you see, the aliens are an alien in that first scene, and then an alien and a later scene. And that's it. It is all about humans, resistance forces being built up and all of this stuff going on. It's very political. And it's got a lot of echoes of stuff that has happened recently in other countries and even in this country a little bit. But I think probably, if you're sold on an alien invasion movie, you want to see an alien invasion. Yeah, and that's not what this is.
Vanessa:Is this a little bit of like, what 10 Cloverfield Lane kind of suffer from where it's like, you already know the universe, then they're in a bunker, and you're like, just anything?
Kelly:That one I thought had a nice twist, because you just never knew,
Eric:you know, beforehand that it was Cloverfield. really old. Yeah. No, I saw it not knowing that. So it was a hell of an ending for me. I
Kelly:didn't like it. I didn't know that going into it. But they had said, this is not the exact same world as the Cloverfield movie. None of the Cloverfield movies that they've released are Yeah, connected. World. They're connected by a piece of that third shitty one Netflix made, I think, their ultimate versions of a world. Oh, that's they created that in that satellite. Oh,
Vanessa:I didn't. I don't know how I missed this. But
Kelly:movie. My favorite movie is the third one suck. That's how
Vanessa:you fight for bad movies. I actually enjoyed it a fair amount. I was like this is could have been so much worse. It was completely acceptable. Another
Kelly:great. Another great blurb?
Vanessa:Yeah.
Kelly:So like I said, it's very political. And you're dealing with a lot of human drama of these people who are feeling oppressed by other humans. And there's, there's one scene of a bunch of human prisoners, I guess, are dissidents or something we're never really told. And they're kind. They're chained. And they're walking towards a gigantic, weird looking spacecraft. And they're being loaded onto this extraterrestrial ship for offworld imprisonment, which, you know, whatever that means, I'm like, well, what's the other world? And why does this make sense. But that's never really explained. And Goodman is a police chief that works under the aliens now. And he was the ex partner of the two sons, dad. So the guy that got vaporized was him. So he's kind of taken care of them. But one of the sons has become a resistance. Legend, he's dead now. And the younger son is, is kind of sneaking through stuff and everything well, he finds out that his brother is still alive. And they are trying to do stuff, the older brothers trying to keep him out of what's going on. And we're just trying to keep up with what is going on. Because they're putting together a resistance that's going to cause some big event, probably a bombing that's going to kill some of the alien leaders, when they all get together for this thing. That just goes all awry. And we start seeing these these alliances that we saw in the beginning suddenly crumbling as we realize, Oh, fuck, they were working for the aliens the entire time or shit like that. So I really liked it, probably because it was so different than what I thought it was going to be. But I also can understand that if what you're looking for his that alien movie, you're gonna be disappointed in this. So I will tell you that in one very small scene, there is a radio DJ, and he sends out coded songs, then that's how the resistance knows what they're supposed to be doing. So there's actually some cool music in this because they're using real songs, but they're using songs from like, old, old country western guys and stuff like that, but, but you hear the song in the best just like that one's a little on the nose. They're scared us up. And this didn't seem like it was a big enough reason to to pick this for this genre. Except I did a little research on the guy playing the DJ and I thought he was pretty interesting. So I'm going to talk about him. His name is Kelly Cole, and he's got 18 credits mostly early 2000s television like lawn order and stuff like that. And he's a really cool looking guy. So he probably played a drug dealer or you know, something like that. But beyond that his bio gets super interesting. So I'm just gonna read a little bit of his bio. Kelly Cole, a seminal figure on New York's late 80s 90s art and club scene, Cole was integral in creating many of Manhattan's most memorable night spots and events, most notably as co creator, operator of the now legendary spy lounge, and rock'n'roll veestro black and white. As a DJ Cole has played extensively at premier events in the US and abroad and has held residences at top clubs, including the highlight room, the bungalow trousdale, Hemingway's hide, and Teddy's in LA, as well as many clubs in New York. His clientele is included the Rolling Stones, YouTube, Madonna, Tina Fey, Heidi Klum, Shirley's their own and corporate clients, including Hermes, apple, Gucci, GM and Cartier. I love this line. He has crafted the musical landscape for over 150 weddings including Johnny Depp. Back in sales and April Levine's so good. Kelly Cole clothing brand has quickly grown a loyal and regular following of entertainment personalities, including Adam Levine, Lee Cooper, Chelsea Handler, Ellen DeGeneres, Christina Aguilera, Travis Scott Rooney, Mara, Travis Barker, and Charlie Hunnam among others,
Vanessa:he has his own clothing.
Kelly:The flagship Kelly Cole retail store, was located at 175 South labrea in Los Angeles, and featured the Kelly co line of denim t shirts and accessories as well as a select inventory of handpicked vintage items and curiosities. Right Cole's early 2000s improvisational retail space slash gallery and lifestyle brand lo fi was a favorite among the young hollywood elite, including Ben Harper, Johnny Knoxville, Aaron Paul and Wynonna writer. The lo fi line was carried by premier retailers globally from 2002 to 2010. The lo fi gallery hosted full scale exhibitions of the work of Nick rock, Michael Moeller and Jeff Vesta. And I thought, How weird that this guy is, in literally eight seconds of this movie, he had to know somebody. Oh, yeah, I don't know if I got into who the creators of this or I got right to the stars. This was directed by Rupert Wyatt, who directed Rise of the planet of the apes, and several episodes of The Exorcist TV show, which he was also an executive producer of. And it was written by him and Erica beanie, which filmmakers will know from the Battle of Shaker Heights. That's the only other thing she wrote. I thought it was weird that they connected somehow, you know, I don't know what her relationship to Rupert is. But there must be some relationship between them. And Kelly Cole. Otherwise, why do you get this guy who's doing all this stuff to be your DJ? And he does. He shows up as a DJ and you're like, Who is this cool? Look at dude. That's not like any DJ I've ever seen. Anyway, the movie i thought was good. A lot of people did not think that. What was the total captive state and our desert rental?
Vanessa:I am definitely gonna check this out. And because my impression was, I thought it was gonna be like a battleship situation where like, Oh, this looks kind of cool. Oh, no, everyone says it's really bad. And I just imagined it was going to be because it was a terrible, terrible action film with him really bad pot.
Kelly:It's not much of an action film. It's a political film, which is a couple of car chases, and stuff like that. But that's it. And then at the end, there's a couple of a couple of continuing twists that I was like, oh, oh, okay. I finished it. The credits rolled and I was like, that was very satisfying.
Vanessa:Oh, definitely check that out. I'll get free from the library.
Kelly:I would hate to give money to any of these.
Vanessa:They're fine. They're fine.
Kelly:All right. Well, that's the that's the show. I think. Vanessa, the next pick is yours.
Vanessa:Um, so I think you know, we're in the holiday season. We just had Thanksgiving. We're spinning up towards Christmas here. And one of the staples of this time of the year is food. So I think I think I want to go with funky food.
Kelly:Funky food. Okay, I like this idea. Yes. So a scene with food
Vanessa:needs to really play a pretty big part in it either. This plot pivots around food or there's a very big food scene like I know we talked about in house three or four or whatever, but that pizza that's like a you know something where it's like really stand out. Man company of wolves has a great food scene.
Kelly:Okay, well that sounds cool to me. We will be doing that next week. In the meantime, thanks to everybody Big thanks again to Danny willeford for being such a fuckin sweetheart. But thanks to everybody else who's always out there supporting us can't thank you enough. There's really no other reason to do the show if you guys aren't behind it, so that's why we're doing it. We really appreciate it. Very cute. Yeah, thank you. All right, we'll be back one week. From now we're talking funky food. Power shows recorded somewhere high above Naval Station Everett at the nexus of all realities, and is engineered and produced by Eric Margaret. Our theme music is Strange Aeons part one by the band next shape is usually fine Strange Aeons radio on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, wherever find podcasts