101 BEST OF 2020!

101 BEST OF 2020!
For the first episode of 2021, the gang discusses their respective Top Five of 2020, then gets into ALL the films they loved from last year.

Transcript

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Strange Aeons Welcome to Strange Aeons radio that's Eric over there.

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Hello.

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That's Vanessa over there. Hello I'm Kelly we're all speaking on brand new microphones so we may sound awesome or not.

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Yeah This goes are we hot? Are we not?

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a bad was that a website for a while to

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show it might have been on MTV or being on or something ways people would start out and Hot or Not in this series of judges

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like wow,

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we were a shallower people at one point or at least more obvious.

Kelly: 1:06

We're still pretty shallow.

Eric: 1:08

We just hide it better now.

Kelly: 1:11

I just want to let all the listeners know that this is our Gala. 100 and first episode.

Vanessa: 1:18

Glad you got that out up front. It's really good to let them know the context of maybe why we're doing our shows.

Kelly: 1:24

I did like Danny Williford saying the surprise twist ending.

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Oh my gosh.

Eric: 1:35

Can't be clean. I guess. We could

Vanessa: 1:37

have re recorded the beginning. But you know, gotta keep it real.

Kelly: 1:42

That's right. Hey, also Happy New Year, guys.

Vanessa: 1:45

Yeah, 2021

Kelly: 1:48

we're living in the future.

Vanessa: 1:50

This could be a year that doesn't suck. Maybe I'm just gonna knock on all the wood. It's fine. Everything's great. All right. Keep

Kelly: 1:57

in mind that Mad Max occurs in the year 2020. So

Vanessa: 2:02

here we go. Really goes through something in that film, too. You know, that's

Eric: 2:05

true. This is the first one then the the first Mad Max.

Kelly: 2:09

I believe it's the first Mad Max. Yeah. And so it's kind of tracking correctly.

Eric: 2:16

Especially if you live in Australia.

Vanessa: 2:18

Geez, I thought they were doing really well right now. Comparatively,

Eric: 2:23

maybe not on fire this January. That's

Vanessa: 2:25

true. Yes. They're not currently on fire. And they handled the pandemic. Well, from what I understand or was that New Zealand?

Eric: 2:34

I think it was Australia, Australia. New Zealand's the one that mailed it. Oh, yeah. Hey, guys,

Kelly: 2:40

big news was that Cobra Kai season three dropped. True. True. I watched every single episode. Did you? Oh, yeah. Loved it. Oh, do you mean how was it?

Vanessa: 2:49

I don't know. I haven't watched any Cobra.

Eric: 2:52

I keep seeing it advertised. But then don't watch it because I have too many things to watch. three episodes in. start watching going. Like Okay, so see where this has gone? so far. It's kind of like, well, right. But I think it feels like it's all building to something very friggin cool.

Kelly: 3:09

Yeah, for the most part. I mean, it's let's not kid ourselves. It's very soap opera. You know, it's just a bunch of relationships with karate thrown in the middle. I will say this at the end of the last episode, I did not realize it was the last episode and I was like next episode. They were like, No, thank you. bother fine.

Eric: 3:31

I did enjoy the almost comedic tongue in cheek news reports of the karate gangs of karate died out the ad goes from accuracy to that.

Kelly: 3:44

I'm here at a school where what can only be described as an all out karate Riot occurred.

Unknown: 3:50

karate riot.

Kelly: 3:52

I loved it. And I hate them. They have to wait a year now for

Eric: 3:56

that's actually the one thing that bugs me most about releasing all the episodes at once. And I do kind of like the taking two months or whatever to watch that new series. By the time it's done. It's it's eight months to the next one as opposed to a frigging year. Yeah, I

Kelly: 4:13

agree. On the other hand, we never know what's going to happen in any given moment. We could all be dead tomorrow. super glad that I got to finish.

Eric: 4:24

It would suck to have missed the end of the Mandalorian because of that.

Vanessa: 4:27

That's so true. That is so true. Well, they also put out the newest season of Sabrina.

Kelly: 4:35

Yes, yes. Yeah,

Vanessa: 4:37

I've only seen a tiny fraction of it because I had to finish the previous season as Sabrina which I just had such a hard time getting through but

Kelly: 4:45

remember you not loving the show?

Vanessa: 4:46

No, no.

Eric: 4:47

I mean, you're watching and i thought you like we're just I'm done.

Vanessa: 4:51

Hey, man, I'm already committed. So I might as well just keep going until until further notice. But yeah, I just I get so fresh. straighted they're like, they're like, Oh, this is such a crazy dark show, except she's just Nancy Drew so it's fine. It's just keep waiting for her to like be like really, really evil and they keep tempting it. They're like now she's the queen of hell. Now she's split into two. Like, at what point is any of her going to be evil?

Eric: 5:21

I think you're listening to the wrong sources, I guess cuz I don't remember anybody going. This is really dark. More like this is

Kelly: 5:30

dark, but everybody in it is being silly and fun, right? situations or dark cast your mind way back when we had this argument. And it was based on the fact that the comic book is very so dark.

Vanessa: 5:44

I know. And I think I can't get that is a big problem for me. But I did genuinely hear, like reviews that were like, it's so crazy dark, huh? So I don't know. I'm gonna have to pull up. I'm saying this with no reference points. So it could be fake news. 2021. But I have no doubt the people that live on a steady diet of hallmark movies and Avengers being too violent. I

Eric: 6:09

thought it was really really dark.

Vanessa: 6:11

Yes,

Eric: 6:12

yeah, the world we're coming from generally is gonna have a problem of it being the other side is really really light. She like sauteed children in a panel that wasn't so bad.

Vanessa: 6:24

This year, I have been like immersing myself in some pretty dark content, although it will save for 2021 in general. I'm pretty stoked. I just went through various articles about everything that's coming out for Avengers and for Star Wars, and just tried to wrap my head around either of them so much so much content, so I'm stoked.

Kelly: 6:49

Yeah, well, um, what was I gonna say about Sabrina? Well, let's keep in mind it is still aimed at you know,

Eric: 6:56

TVs? I

Kelly: 6:57

think so. It's it's pretty dark for that. I do. I do enjoy. I'm about halfway through this last season. And it is the most overtly lovecraftian of the seasons for sure. Oh, does

Eric: 7:08

love crafty and it's a lot more like creature that week or something.

Kelly: 7:12

It is it is a monster of the week show this time, but I am okay with it. Especially they have one of the big evils that shows up is the weird, which is clearly an acolyte of Cthulhu and I like that a lot.

Vanessa: 7:27

That is fun. I mean, I did enjoy the season finale where like the green takes over for season three. I think that was pretty neat. That had like some really interesting like if this one particular entity takes over it can be so bad just imagine if any of them takeover. Yeah. But yeah, that's that's definitely something I'll look forward to as I rushed my way through this series, I'm sure. Like, got halfway through the first episode and was like, I'm just gonna pause.

Kelly: 7:55

Wow,

Vanessa: 7:57

I'll come back to it.

Kelly: 7:58

I just see anything that you want to talk about Eric.

Eric: 8:03

I was still doing the 2020 deep dive. I mean, I did watch. What was it perfect. trip or some shit like that, which Steve's on and the guy from justified, Timothy olifant.

Kelly: 8:19

And this is the one about the LSD or something like that. No, they

Eric: 8:23

go on a honeymoon in in Hawaii. And it's a it's like, ooh, which two people are the killers that were recently seen in such and such a place kind of movie directed by the guy did pitch black and a few other things. So I'm reading all that going. This should be really good. And it's really okay.

Kelly: 8:48

That's almost worse.

Eric: 8:50

Yeah, than bad. Especially when you've got all the font and Steve's on all those guys who just do good stuff, even when they're in a silly shit perfect getaway. And what's your name of kills all the Resident Evil zombies? The lady in it?

Kelly: 9:08

Is that Mia? Mia? Somebody Oh,

Eric: 9:14

famous model who turned Roma Joe

Unknown: 9:18

Joe village

Vanessa: 9:19

thank you

Eric: 9:22

that's a pretty damn good cast pretty solid director and, and he's written decent because he I think he wrote pitch black as well and like, oh, should be fine. And then it's fine. It's just, it's fine.

Kelly: 9:33

Well with Neela and Timothy at least you get some fine looking specimens of humanity to look after. And

Eric: 9:39

apparently Steve decided he needed to jack him. He's like I'm gonna be working opposite Timothy Oliver not so he is before. Jesus, his arms got huge.

Kelly: 9:49

Everybody wearing bathing suits, I imagine for at various times. Yes. Okay, well, so we're gonna jump into this episode's topic. topic and we're going to do it a little differently because we are talking about our, our top five films each for 2020. And then after we get done with that, we'll jump into our runner ups or other films that we liked. We just didn't want to do those things first, and then end with our topic because we might nobody knows what we have picked it for our top.

Vanessa: 10:23

That's true. I'm so curious what you guys have chosen?

Kelly: 10:26

I imagine there will be some crossover.

Vanessa: 10:29

No, no, we have such different tastes.

Kelly: 10:33

The Phineas and Ferb stuff didn't make it.

Vanessa: 10:37

Hey, that was like a topic. It's not I don't think they even make that show anymore. I think it got canceled like five years ago. Okay.

Unknown: 10:47

Wow. Okay, that's everything. I

Vanessa: 10:49

want you to know that I have other tastes to

Unknown: 10:54

think we figured that out.

Kelly: 10:55

Yeah. Well, Eric, you want to start us off with Sure. My number five number five. Casey came in here.

Eric: 11:06

Ah, myself horribly on that one deny. Anyways, not that Anybody? Anybody anyways, God dammit start up dumb shit get duped. Oh, number five slot and today not on my list at all.

Kelly: 11:21

I don't know if I even saw that. I

Eric: 11:23

did not I did mention it. I wanted to pass the one of our podcasts before after I saw it. It's the one with the bunch of kids in Ireland who who get in trouble and have to go on a survival retreat. That's right. by local people who call themselves the monarchy of the area. Right,

Vanessa: 11:40

right. I you know what I do remember that popping up on a couple of Best of 2020 lists? Um, Where's it? Where's it? You can catch it is on Amazon? Yeah, I

Eric: 11:49

think it's Amazon. I don't think it's shutters probably Amazon or Hulu. Anyways, but it's Yeah, it did all right at 765 from the Rotten Tomato critics and crowd. So it did fine. But I, I here's how I put my list together. I went through my letterbox reviews and wrote down all the ones that like, even if the review might have been like something was a three star and somebody gave four star if I remembered that three star better. Like you know I, I obviously enjoyed this movie more. And hold all are the ones that really stuck with me and then just started whittling down. So I was I honestly I'm a little surprised at some of the stuff. And this was one that I knew I really liked. And I'm not surprised it ended up because it's so much fun to watch.

Kelly: 12:41

What was the what was the plot of the film, again,

Eric: 12:46

a bunch of kids in trouble kind of a Scared Straight sort of thing, except they're going to go out into the woods, the wilderness of Ireland, which is not the same as going to the wilderness of the Northwest. They had to get from point A to point B meet up with their teacher or whatever he's called, and then take another Trek.

Kelly: 13:06

But there's something that happens.

Eric: 13:08

Yeah, there's a group of people that I don't know if they own the land, or squatters, but called themselves the monarchy of the land, and they're going to they look at these kids as invaders, make sure they scare them off from their area or kill them for being on their land illegally.

Vanessa: 13:27

That's hilarious. So I know in British culture, there's this really funny thing where in America we have like the Boy Scouts, right? And in there, they have something called something guides or something anyway. And instead of like going out in the wilderness, and like learning to like start a fire or whatever, they do these like long walks, and like countryside walks, and there are these trails that go up and down the entire country. But and legally at least in England, you have to be able to go through land because it's all technically owned by the queen or something. So you're supposed to be able to track through farm yards and stuff, but yeah, people get really pissy about it too, because they're like, I'm a millionaire. By property, you filthy walkers.

Kelly: 14:14

peasants.

Eric: 14:15

That's right, exactly. So that was that's my number five.

Kelly: 14:18

I'm putting that on my list if it made your number five.

Vanessa: 14:20

Yeah, definitely. So my number five This was such a struggle trying to figure out what to make it on that bottom slot of the list just because yeah, there were like so many that kind of affect you in a different way but equally so. So when number five up until about two minutes ago, I was still debating it so but I'm gonna I'm gonna go with it. Bill and Ted face the music. Oh, wow. Nice. Nice. Yeah. So either of you have this on your list.

Eric: 14:53

I did like it a lot.

Vanessa: 14:55

So my list I just want to caveat it by saying I really skewed it towards Feel good? Like a lot of my films are going to be about me feeling good or making people feel good because this day was a fucking year.

Eric: 15:09

I have a couple of those two.

Vanessa: 15:10

Yeah. So Bill and Ted face the music. It was just such a happy, fun film. I felt so good after seeing that movie. And I you know, same same writers as previously and you know, they managed to get Of course, canneries and Alex winter.

Eric: 15:28

The two daughters are actually we managed to get canneries. I'm sure Alex winter was just waiting for kiato.

Vanessa: 15:36

Alex winter has a fine directing career. Yeah. Yeah, no, Alex was doing really well. But yeah, it definitely like just the fact that they I don't know that it happened at all. And I know that they've been struggling for a long time to make it so it really felt lovingly crafted. And yeah, and just yeah, made me feel good.

Kelly: 15:56

I thought that they both fell into those roles pretty easily again, I believe that I had a really good time with that film.

Vanessa: 16:03

It's great too, because yeah, Keanu post, john wick. It's almost like Oh, hey, that's right. canneries exists. And he's kind of awesome. And we're like in such a Is it a Kiana since I read? You know, like it's just it's really nice to see him be willing to walk back into something that basically define him as a stupid guy who couldn't act for most of his career, but he just was like, I'll do it. I don't mind. Nice makes people happy.

Kelly: 16:35

Well, it'll come as no surprise to you guys that I cheated from. If I didn't cheat, you can't cheat. But but it's still I think I'll argue it. It still works. Mine is a documentary. Oh, okay. That's fine. My number five is leap of faith William Friedkin on the exorcist.

Vanessa: 16:52

That's awesome. You did love that film.

Kelly: 16:55

I loved it. And not just me. The Rotten Tomatoes. Critics have it at 91% audience has it at 89% it was written and directed by Alexandra Oh, Felipe. And here's why this guy is so good at this. He also did 7852 Hitchcock shower scene. Oh, he also did the people versus George Lucas. Oh, she also did memory the origins of alien and he also did the doc of the dead. So no wonder I love this so much. I love all of his document. Those are great. This is starring and narrated by William Friedkin, and it's described as a lyrical and spiritual cinematic essay on the exorcist, exploring the depths of William Friedkin, his mind's eye, the nuances of his filmmaking process, and the mysteries of faith and fate that have shaped his life and filmography, which is super snooty, because what it really is, is a masterclass in cinema. If you can't handle egomaniacs discussing themselves probably not for you but I would argue that freakin has the body of work to back up his Oh braggadocious way

Eric: 18:02

Yeah, I have a problem with his ego just because yeah, if he was 30 re had an ego like that it might be a little different but yeah, he's been successfully making pretty damn good movies for several decades go ahead and have a weird ego

Kelly: 18:17

Yeah, that is available on shutter too so

Vanessa: 18:20

and he's not shooting guns anymore on site right?

Kelly: 18:23

I think he actually mentioned I'd never do that nowadays.

Vanessa: 18:27

So really it's fine everything's fine punching one of the like

Eric: 18:32

priests to wasn't an actor isn't

Kelly: 18:33

even an actor

Vanessa: 18:35

Oh my God.

Eric: 18:37

You do need to watch this I do as a as a filmmaker even more so i think it's it's interesting if you love film but if you've ever been on a set and you've ever done film stuff even bigger

Vanessa: 18:48

well so funny because like the the other documentaries that you mentioned that he was behind like the people versus George Lucas has been on my list for

Kelly: 18:57

ever. That's so good. So

Vanessa: 18:59

and I already know a fair amount about George Lucas but I want the extra ammunition

Eric: 19:05

to see this. Yeah, you should It's really good. And while you're at it, come on and seek the short film George Lucas in love it's it's awesome.

Vanessa: 19:14

Okay, cool. Every time I know that you are a lover of short films and you are a great curator short films but for me as soon as you say short films like a light goes off in my head and everyone starts running around this This ship is sinking.

Eric: 19:34

All right, well, on that note, something that is definitely not a short film. My number four pick. The feel good movie of the year relic.

Vanessa: 19:43

Oh, of course.

Eric: 19:44

I still haven't seen the same yes is an interesting one. This one. This actually was the one that made me go. Yeah, I think we're gonna get the rotten tomatoes for each of these because the critics have it at 91. The crowd has it at 48

Vanessa: 19:55

Whoa. That is a disparity.

Kelly: 20:00

slow burn is it deliberately paced

Eric: 20:03

it is to a point the slow burn but nothing compared to like the lodge with everybody seemed to love.

Vanessa: 20:08

Why do people like the crap out of me?

Kelly: 20:13

number four on my list

Eric: 20:17

but the if you can argue it's good we will isn't the relic relic not the relic relic is it's got a gigantic tone shift from how it starts to a very strange switch in the end that I went with. I thought, Wow, what an inventive crazy way to deal with what's going on in this movie. It's also very dark. It's very mean, in a lot of ways because it's got Yeah, sorry, I mentioned this too much a fairly accurate portrayal of dementia, and what the family goes through. And what a lot of places what a lot of things also often forget. And dementia is the anger and the other strange shit that goes on. And they nail A lot of it. And then they and they do it really well. And they don't do it as an insult. But man when it changes to what, to the second half and to where the daughters I think start getting in danger. It's a very strange shift at one person. I wonder if you I read kind of compared it to house of leaves that Oh, okay, interesting. So yeah, that is I believe that's Netflix.

Kelly: 21:24

Is that? Is it scary?

Eric: 21:26

Yeah. Yeah, it's got a good dread would be a better word. Okay. It's got more of a dread, but then it's got some really good, weird suspense stuff.

Kelly: 21:36

And it's supernatural horror, right?

Eric: 21:38

Yeah. Yeah.

Vanessa: 21:39

It's interesting, because I think we talked about this before, but any horror film that really focuses on something that the filmmakers, especially if the filmmakers know, so if they've clearly been through the process of dealing with somebody who has dementia, and then incorporate that into a film, probably, therapeutically, like that's so freakin cool that like, it's nice for people who have also experienced it to see and just be like, Oh, you didn't just have asked us or guess as to like, how this like, there are so many films out there where people just get cancer. Like, I really, personally for a long time, felt like I really could not possibly talk about cancer because I'm like, I don't know anybody who's undergone and now I do you know, life goes on. But it's just, it's it's so nice when it feels so authentic. And I think it can pull off. Yeah,

Eric: 22:33

yeah, this and the taking of Deborah Logan probably are the most that I've seen the most accurate. Yeah. So but yeah, relic it is. Yeah, right. You know, I said, I picked a lot of feel good movies.

Vanessa: 22:46

Clearly, well, I'll jump into my number four, which actually kind of mirrors your critic, except for wolf. It mirrors your audience, I guess. 47% for the critics 60% audience and that is underwater. Ah,

Kelly: 23:04

very nice. This, this was very close to making my list. Yeah.

Eric: 23:08

I enjoyed it a lot.

Vanessa: 23:09

Yeah, it was just really, I don't know, it was such a fun action film. And it probably is higher on my list. Also, because I saw it in theaters before, to last good

Kelly: 23:19

memory.

Vanessa: 23:22

I was, I mean, I saw I see a lot of films on my own. And I remember the theater was pretty empty. And it was one of the last days that it was still in theaters. And I know the pandemic had been mentioned. And I was like, I gotta like get in and see this movie before. It's too late. Um, and yeah, it was just I liked the surprise moments. And I liked for the most part the cast was great. Just Yeah, moved along very nicely. Very disastrous.

Kelly: 23:49

Remind me what the rotten tomatoes on this is.

Vanessa: 23:52

Audiences 60% critics 47

Kelly: 23:56

What did they want out of this movie?

Unknown: 23:57

I don't know.

Eric: 23:58

I'm sure no fun having stupid critic.

Kelly: 24:02

This movie takes about 40 seconds to get going. And then it's just non stop. I I loved it. Yeah,

Vanessa: 24:09

and I don't think it's a stupid movie. I think like everything that happens. It feels like it escalates appropriately. I don't know. I don't know what there is to it. They What do they say about this? So strong cast and stylish direction aren't enough to distract from the strong sense of deja vu provoked by this claustrophobic thrillers derivative story?

Kelly: 24:30

Oh, it's too much like other movies you love.

Vanessa: 24:33

I know. I'm like we're at an age now where it's gonna be pretty darn hard to pull off something new unless it's about like, twitch streaming. And let's face it,

Kelly: 24:42

they've got to be comparing it to the alien movies. This is the best alien movies since aliens. Oh, yeah. So it's not like an alien movies. And this one is sucky.

Vanessa: 24:53

And it's like, I mean, you could you could argue it's alien meets abyss, but it's not tonally Either of those films, it's its own film. It's an action movie. I mean aliens as to but it feels more adrenaline driven and disasterous mixed in with those elements. So

Eric: 25:11

I don't know. I'm just I always find the that excuse for movie being bad going. It's like you actually kind of really respected or liked this movie in some way. But you felt you needed to show how low you know this is just like yeah, that and probably 40 other films come up with a bunch of people in trouble running away. Hey, man,

Vanessa: 25:31

you're has no hair and x this is throwing me

Eric: 25:35

there with the Ava avatar thing is just like dances with pools. Yeah, Dances with Wolves was like about 400 other westerns they haven't seen.

Vanessa: 25:43

So yeah, Mandalorian is lone wolf and cub, right? So we we just have to know that, hey, if it references something or borrows from something. So what if it's enjoyable?

Kelly: 25:55

Why does it matter work for Quentin Tarantino. And not only that a big critique of the film I saw was that there was no character development. And I thought that the filmmakers got around that by casting people that you kind of understood. Yeah. So when TJ trans shell shows up in a role Yeah, I actually know what his character is going to immediately show I don't need development. Yeah, no.

Vanessa: 26:18

And we all you want to do is see how those people act in these situations. They're thrown in. Yeah.

Eric: 26:25

The thing that comes up a lot with indie films that it gets submitted. It's like, Oh, we spend a lot of time on character development. people sitting around a campground talking about various shit is not character development. Yeah, I think underwater had good character development, because it showed them reacting in real time and what was really going on, right. And I don't need to know that they were born in Oklahoma for that

Vanessa: 26:49

character as they go from space to space. I seem to remember like more clues are unveiled about what happened who who different people are? I don't know like I definitely felt like there was maybe the characters weren't changing as the action happened but our understanding of them certainly once and and more power to the director as well, which I just want to mention William Eubank who did the signal love and was mostly a cinematographer? I mean, that's that's been his main shtick for a long time. So great. I and he's trying, he's trying things. The signal was like a interesting film. So it had a lot of weird moments. But like, man, like that was a lot of effort behind an indie piece. So

Kelly: 27:36

yeah, I've changed my mind. That's now my number one. So let's come back. We'll just find more to mention about underwater. Until then. My number four was the dark in the wicked. Did that make anybody else's list?

Vanessa: 27:51

No.

Eric: 27:52

It's one of those years, man. Yeah,

Kelly: 27:54

the budget that I could not find but a box office of 414,000 somehow Rotten Tomatoes critics have it at 90% audience as it is 62% it was written and directed by Brian bertino. Who who wrote and directed the strangers which you know, I hate the black coats daughter which I think is pretty dang good. Gary and the monster which is the young girl in her mom on the stuck on the road with their OnStar surrounding their car. So this guy is done a good job of these kind of movies. Stars Marin Ireland who has 68 credits most notably sissy in the umbrella Academy. I will be playing Nora in the upcoming why the last man series Did you guys ever Oh, my God.

Vanessa: 28:43

Yes. That was one of my first graphic novels that like adventure yo adaptation

Kelly: 28:48

or I don't know, but it has eight episodes listed on IMDB. So Oh my god. Also stars Michael Abbott Jr, who has a ton of short films and a couple episodes of Fear the Walking Dead and the upcoming Hillhouse remake.

Vanessa: 29:03

Oh, man, okay.

Kelly: 29:05

And this is about a brother and a sister who are called back to their family farm because their father is on his deathbed. It goes from that lovely happy premise to very much worse as mom kills herself that night, and a series of very scary events and visions start happening. Basically, for some reason, there's a demon that is waiting for their father's soul. And it is tormenting everyone as it waits this thing. Have you seen the spinach? Oh, it is so scary. Um, it's got a couple of moments. There's a shot where the guy looks outside and he sees his dead mom floating out there. And I just got it raised the hair on my arm. It's got amazing sound design. It has relentless scares, and I loved every dread filled second of it. I know Eric had a complaint that there was nothing by break.

Eric: 29:56

It's just one of us. It's one of my strange little things, but didn't hurt the film still a great damn movie but

Kelly: 30:05

yeah I for whatever reason it really stuck with me so that is the dark and the wicked It is only available as a rental still

Eric: 30:13

wow worth it worth it though

Kelly: 30:15

it was like 299 is not a$15 rental Yeah

Vanessa: 30:18

exactly. A lot of these you know I paid for and somewhere and other

Eric: 30:26

all right so my number three I guess would be was one I know you've talked about I don't think he liked it nearly as much as I did but was spontaneous. That's higher than three. Yep. All right. Let's head over to give here number three and we'll come back to spontaneous one.

Vanessa: 30:46

And my number three is freaky.

Kelly: 30:49

Oh, fun. Nice

Eric: 30:50

choice. I that was one that it didn't make my list but it balanced. Oh, damn it

Vanessa: 30:55

again. Just one that I just had a lot of fun watching the cast. Clearly I had a lot of fun making this film. Vince Vaughn basically pulling off a jack black. I'm of course referencing jack black and Jumanji, where he plays a teenage girl. Much like Vince Vaughn in this movie playing a new teenage girl. And I've been a popular teenage girl like an outsider teenage girl. That's not an easy like pole that's like, hey, I need you to play a teenage girl but here's her actual character in depth.

Eric: 31:26

So it looks like he's like seven five. So hugely,

Vanessa: 31:33

he's enormous, absolutely enormous. And so the director is Christopher Landon, who wrote freaky as well and happy death day Paranormal Activity too. And start off with like, Disturbia. The stars in this, the main girl, Catherine Newton. You I was trying to figure out where I'd seen her before. She was in Pokemon. Pokemon. She's the girl.

Kelly: 32:01

She was the lady that the detective Pikachu didn't i didn't watch. Oh,

Vanessa: 32:06

you know what? It was fun.

Kelly: 32:07

I mean, I tried. Based on your suggestion.

Vanessa: 32:11

I think we have to have an understanding between us that sometimes I enjoy

Kelly: 32:16

children's content. We have an understanding Vanessa.

Vanessa: 32:20

She was also in three billboards. And she's gonna play Cassie Lang and the new air man. So Wow. Yeah. But she was just a super fun character to watch. And as well just I don't know, it was a great dynamic to see a young girl owning Vince Vaughn. So

Kelly: 32:36

yeah, super fun. I didn't realize I was the same guy that did happy death day that wrote happy death day also.

Vanessa: 32:42

Yeah, yeah, it's um, there's a lot of crossover actually in my selections, which is going to be interesting to check out. But I will say it's interesting. I don't know how they're figuring out the rotten tomatoes and audience scores for these. But this one sat at like 83% critic 80% audience,

Kelly: 33:02

how do they know the audience is just the people who will waste time writing review on Rotten Tomatoes.

Vanessa: 33:07

Oh, that's that's the only way they get the audience.

Kelly: 33:09

Yeah. And the critics isn't? What do you call it an aggregation of all critic reviews?

Unknown: 33:15

No.

Kelly: 33:16

If you basically say I liked the film, and I give it a D. That's a positive

Vanessa: 33:22

thing. Do people actually go on to rotten tomatoes and review stuff?

Kelly: 33:26

Oh, my God. Remember? The last Jedi? No, I

Vanessa: 33:31

do not.

Eric: 33:32

I mean, change the way they did it wrong. Their critics is somebody. If you would go through it, you'd read the same because it was so hated by fanboys you'd read the same stupid review, like every four reviews. Oh, man, exact same thing, or somebody was just going in. It's just bad. Wow.

Vanessa: 33:51

I mean, I would think, oh, why don't you get the data from IMDb and letterboxed. And, you know,

Kelly: 33:57

Eric and I have talked many times about how much we actually hate Rotten Tomatoes. And we don't think that it's anything we should be basing any of your decisions on, but that it made for a good gimmick in what we talk. And that's the only reason.

Vanessa: 34:11

I know I will I never I never follow it. But I do like how it summarizes up in one sentence, like 1000s of pieces of information.

Eric: 34:21

Metacritic, that kind of does the same thing. I think the rotten tomatoes one is it's more known. So let's talk about it. Yeah, it's just an aggregation site, folks.

Vanessa: 34:31

Thank you for the lesson, guys. I really appreciate it.

Kelly: 34:35

Okay, we'll get into my number three. And then how about after this, we take a little break. Sounds good to me. And that's all dependent on this not being somewhere higher on anybody's list, and I've got the hunt. Note,

Eric: 34:48

also floated around my top five for a while but didn't quite make it.

Kelly: 34:53

budget of 14 million box office of 11 million because it opened the weekend that everything shut down. So they all almost had a great weekend. It actually made 5 million of that just as the theaters closed. Rotten Tomatoes critics habit of 57% audience has it as 66 which I think is a little low. You guys both saw this I think you liked this.

Vanessa: 35:16

I mean, I can't believe it's number three for you loved this movie.

Eric: 35:22

I could see where the kind of person that would go on to run tomatoes and write a review would get the wrong mindset and they'd focus on well this made fun of me. But it makes

Vanessa: 35:33

fun of everybody and

Kelly: 35:35

ignore

Eric: 35:36

good already missed the fact that it's also making fun of everybody. Oh

Vanessa: 35:40

my god, the liberals take a tough hit in this,

Kelly: 35:44

for sure. Directed by Craig zobel, who has done episodes of outcast American Gods and Westworld, written by Nick coos, who is a writer and producer on HBO is watchman and Damon Lindelof, who you would know from last promethease Star Trek Into Darkness, World War Z and eight episodes of watchmen he basically was show ran that episode wrote every episode Yeah. It stars Betty Gilpin, who is a national treasure 38 credits, but I only know her from the show glow. In that show.

Vanessa: 36:18

She's so good in it.

Kelly: 36:21

And Hilary Swank from Boys Don't Cry Million Dollar Baby and the next Karate Kid.

Vanessa: 36:30

Lest we forget

Kelly: 36:33

his movie, it starts with a bunch of strangers waking up and declaring they don't know where they are, how they got there. And then it turns into most dangerous game. And maybe this is why I like it, because that's one of my favorite types of stories. Oh, okay, gotcha. And this might be my favorite execution of it right next to last year's Ready or not, which is also the most dangerous game story. This is a bunch of elitist liberal assholes who have grabbed together a bunch of horrible, conservative online people who are posting shitty things, and they've decided to hunt them. But they might have accidentally picked the wrong person with one of them. Yeah. And it does have biting commentary because you hate everybody. And yeah, both sides. And then when the kind of twist comes and you realize what's really going on, you're like, Oh, my God, I can almost see this happening based on the way we all jump to conclusions so easily. Yeah,

Vanessa: 37:35

absolutely. I mean, I, I have to admit, as somebody who listens to a hell of a lot of NPR, I had a moment where I was like, I feel really dirty and bad about my suffering now. But I want to be educated.

Kelly: 37:51

I thought it was I thought it was funny. I thought it was surprisingly gory. They did a couple of little twists at the beginning that I like, like where you bring in a actor you recognize you go, oh, there's the hero of the show. And boom, he's out or

Eric: 38:06

part of what made me really want to see it was the the initial reaction before it even came out. You had I think it was. I think it was Tucker Carlson who lost his shit about it. And then

Kelly: 38:16

I think it was no less than Trump who lost his ship.

Eric: 38:18

Yeah, yeah. And then and it just climbed up and the whoever you want to pick there somebody, I don't think it would matter. But it was somebody like that, who lost their ship on the left about it was like, Oh, this is something

Kelly: 38:32

well, and the conservatives who are losing their shit over it didn't seem to get that. They should have been saying yes, this is what we've been saying forever. They want to hunt us and kill us. They were like, this is a movie about liberals hunting and killing conservatives. Well, it's not actually but Okay,

Vanessa: 38:51

we're just spinning because that's what liberals said to me. I didn't want to watch it forever. Because I was like, Oh, this is a movie put out by conservatives about how shitty we are. Well, because that was the impression I got Yeah, I'm gonna stay

Kelly: 39:04

research a little bit and realize that's not gonna happen and Hollywood.

Eric: 39:08

That's not about the guy who created watchmen. rafts of shit for being too liberal. And I know I will I

Vanessa: 39:15

honestly I didn't do any research. I and I did watch it.

Kelly: 39:19

So right. Yeah, I loved it. Number three for me, is still not available anywhere. Well, maybe it might be on HBO Max, but I don't think

Eric: 39:27

so. I think it's on HBO,

Kelly: 39:29

or something like that. If it is I'm watching it again.

Vanessa: 39:32

I definitely got it via Netflix, disk and mail.

Kelly: 39:38

Wow. The people at Netflix are like we really want to discontinue this service. But there's still one person who's using it my

Vanessa: 39:44

mom. Definitely my mom. She wanted to see my mom. No, my mom has been forced to get my list of things when I have run out of hallmark movies to order for her.

Kelly: 39:57

Does your mom have an AOL email address?

Vanessa: 40:00

Fully No, but it is a Hotmail.

Kelly: 40:02

Okay, better? Yeah. All right, guys, why don't we take a little bit break? And we will come back we'll discuss our last two films and then we'll get into our runner ups for the year.

Unknown: 40:20

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Kelly: 41:41

And we are back. Hey guys, just kind of weird. We've had no crossover yet. One. I'm Oh,

Vanessa: 41:46

yeah, that's one so far.

Kelly: 41:47

Not one the counter. I mean, nobody cross over with me.

Vanessa: 41:51

That's true. That is true. I think I know at least one year next to you. That is not on my list. So

Eric: 41:57

yeah. Okay.

Kelly: 41:58

Well, Eric, I think you're done next.

Eric: 42:00

I'm pretty sure this won't be a crossover for anyone. There's another one that I don't think I don't even know if either of you have watched yet either. But swallow.

Vanessa: 42:08

I still have not seen it for sure that

Kelly: 42:11

liked it so much and made you

Eric: 42:14

Wow. It's just I don't know if the hell of a film hell of a character study film. Again, like I said, when I talked about it before, it's borderline horror, you're pushing to call this horror, but that's how they market it. So Screw it, I'm going with him. But so I've talked to him about this one a bunch, I won't say too much. But it was a at a critic 72 crowd. So fairly highly rated. Now this one I would classify as a slow burn. But it is far more of a character study than it is a people attacking each other kind of thing or anything like that. It's all about what the lead goes through what she goes through as a newlywed and controlled by this asshole guy and this awful, awful family. And the weird way she comes to deal with it by swallowing stuff, you know, her ability, her way to control her world becomes very apparent to her. And exercise incredibly well acted really well directed. The art direction is also way off the chart, especially when you rise the guy wanted to emulate Hitchcock in the way things look not necessarily in the movie, but the way it looked. Yep.

Kelly: 43:27

I remember thinking that just viewing the trailer. I was like this looks like a movie that was made in 1968.

Eric: 43:33

Yes, Yeah, it does. And it maintains that through the film so so yeah, like I say if you really want to hear me blab incessantly about this tech up our episode on eating things or freaky food I believe it's fairly recent it's only a few weeks back but I talked about it much more but yeah, left a hell of an impression on me.

Vanessa: 43:54

You're really into the character development stories

Unknown: 43:59

this year Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

Vanessa: 44:02

No, I'm I'm definitely impressed with it and excited to check it out at some point when I want to feel bad. I'm also my number two is also something that I talked about in depth previously, which is a Kelly recommendation. Love and monsters.

Kelly: 44:19

Oh, hi. says this is right there at the top. I was like, Oh, I'm gonna have to let go. I love that movie.

Vanessa: 44:26

You but you didn't quite make it onto your list. Oh, no. Yeah, there was this movie was just so again. I don't know, within a normal year it would have been in my top five. But this year, it was frickin in my top five. Well, you weren't kidding. If you're looking for feel good.

Kelly: 44:41

Yes. This one was all of that.

Vanessa: 44:44

And the critics agree with 92%.

Kelly: 44:48

Wow, that just makes me angry that it didn't get to theaters because I want everybody involved in this to become big stars.

Vanessa: 44:54

Well, you know, and the director Michael Matthews who also he hasn't done a lot too, so I'm hoping that you know, post COVID he's going to be recognized because he'd only really done sweetheart and five finger marsay which I know I'd mentioned before, but

Kelly: 45:11

so he directed sweetheart. Yeah. Do you guys remember that one? I do. Yeah. I didn't like it. Yeah, yeah.

Eric: 45:19

significantly. Yeah. He's repped helps.

Vanessa: 45:21

He learns Yes, exactly. Having a really solid script. It almost feels like an Edgar Wright movie in places. Very much. Yeah. So they're just such a well written, well acted piece with fun monsters. Oh my god, that world is so much fun to live in. And the thing that I don't like about certain movies like The Purge, is that they establish this really neat universe that we don't get to see a lot of, and love and monsters is like, no, we're going we're going and you get to see all kinds of critters and all kinds of different situations. And

Eric: 45:56

that was just really neat. Well, you know, in line with the but the Lord of the Rings haters, he's just about a guy walking man.

Vanessa: 46:05

It's true. And and he writes in his little book, he makes this little journal entries about the monsters on the way and then yeah, there's love and there's monsters isn't the title.

Eric: 46:15

Right? It delivers what it promises. Sure

Vanessa: 46:17

does.

Kelly: 46:18

It also reminded me of my youth middle school and early High School playing like role playing games. This felt like a world that Yeah, you know, you would want to play a role playing game based in

Vanessa: 46:30

Oh, absolutely. I mean, the monster encounters are frequent enough, but you still have time for adventure on the edge. When when he pulled out his notebook to kind of start to write down these these monsters. I actually had a strong moment of Oh my God, that's such a cool idea. Because it is just a d&d book and monster manual. Yeah, monster manual.

Kelly: 46:53

In a perfect world, this would have become a huge hit. And that book would have been available for all of us to pick up,

Vanessa: 47:01

I would have bought it Me too. I would have bought edition one and two.

Kelly: 47:07

Nice. Okay, so that was your number two? Absolutely. I could have cheated again. Because my number two and my number one are interchangeable. And I thought I'll just make these a tie. So I can slip another movie in. But I didn't. But I wonder if this is making your guys list, then I think you can't. possessor uncut is my number two,

Vanessa: 47:27

it did not quite make my last

Eric: 47:29

scene for me. It was definitely in that. If we were doing a top 10 it would be there.

Vanessa: 47:33

If it was not 2020 or 2020. It would have probably made it but it is it is a 2020 year. So this

Kelly: 47:42

hit me right in the sweet spot of what I wish that a new David Cronenberg film would have been

Vanessa: 47:51

really, I

Kelly: 47:52

couldn't find any budget stuff on it. But the box office was 895,000. Again, somehow. I don't know it was labeled earlier. You Yeah. Must be Australia or in the last three weeks where films were open somewhere.

Vanessa: 48:06

Yeah, London opened for like a hot second and then closed back down. So everybody went to the theaters for like, a couple weeks. And then

Kelly: 48:14

yeah, so the critics for Rotten Tomato have this at 93%, which is pretty good for film. And the audience has it at 59%. And I'm guessing it's just a little too cerebral. There's too much thinking and wondering what's actually going on because there is a lot of that in this where you're like, what's going on? Yeah, written and directed by Brandon Cronenberg, who had done antiviral, Brandon Cronenberg, of course, produced by David Cronenberg. Andrea riseborough from Oblivion, Birdman, nocturnal animals and probably most recognizable from Mandy and Jennifer Jason Leigh from Fast Times at ridgemont High the hitcher annihilation lycees story, or Lisi story, I guess it's called which is a Stephen King adaptation. And I was like, Oh, cool. I like this book, who she playing in that? When I look on IMDB, you know, they've got the list of actors and then the character they're playing. Yeah, it's got the list of actors and the characters are playing when it comes to Jennifer Jason Leigh, no character name. It's just a blank line. Oh, what's this all about?

Vanessa: 49:27

mystery for another time. Yes.

Kelly: 49:29

riseborough plays an agent who works for some kind of secretive organization that uses this bizarre brain implant technology to inhabit other people's bodies, and then ultimately driving those people to commit assassinations for high paying clients. Because this is a horror film, she begins to lose control and finds herself trapped in the mind of a man whose willpower is much stronger than her own. It This is just a weird fucking movie. It feels like it should have been made in 1977 or eight. It's such a strange idea. Some really strong performances some shocking door when it shows up. I don't know that it's a gory movie, but when it decides to be it certainly is. And you know, you don't want the sun look as Steven Spielberg sun comes out and he makes a movie that's just like 80 or something. That's kind of like the last thing you really want. Yeah. But I didn't realize how badly I wanted Brandon to make it.

Vanessa: 50:30

I mean, Cronenberg left a gaping hole, and no one has properly filled his own filmmaker. It's

Eric: 50:37

nice to have somebody

Vanessa: 50:39

Canada financed that man and no one else would have. And thank goodness for that because we have some real interesting content because of it.

Kelly: 50:48

Yeah, but Cronenberg doesn't even make Cronenberg move backwards. So

Eric: 50:51

he's gone. legit, as it were,

Kelly: 50:53

and he acts so this was, this was just so refreshing. I loved this movie.

Vanessa: 50:59

Does it remind you at all in places of under the skin

Kelly: 51:03

under the skin? I'm trying to Oh, Scarlett Johansen, I did not like that movie.

Vanessa: 51:10

It's just like, I think just in those moments where she, you go into the weird mental state where it maybe it's inside of a spaceship, it's hard to tell. It's that black room with a black oily, you know, and the person is being overtaken by her. And there's this kind of interesting exchange.

Kelly: 51:27

You know, now that you mentioned it, I think this would probably make a great double feature with that, because it feels like they should both be playing on a drive in and 1970s Oh

Vanessa: 51:36

my god, that'd be so much fun. I got somebody really, we got to keep doing driving. I don't know where there was a little surge in the summer and where are they now?

Eric: 51:46

I need them. generally don't run in the winter.

Vanessa: 51:48

I don't care to make them rent in the winter here. I'll put on my windshield wipers. It'll be fine.

Kelly: 51:53

But that was my number two. I mean, by process of elimination, number one, your number ones have to be the same thing you're talking about. Don't know. Okay, it's my number.

Eric: 52:04

I know you're number one. Yes. No, no, my number one was anything for Jackson.

Unknown: 52:09

Wow, I love this movie.

Eric: 52:11

What just totally took me by surprise because I was doing that list of here's the 2020 movie. I think it's on shutter. So I was like well watch watch this. heard nothing about it. You didn't see a trailer commercial for it or anything thing. blown away by it. It was a 9873 for critics and crowds so fairly highly related. reviewed, directed by I don't know if it's just in G dike or Jessen, g dick, but de YCK not just as you see necessary. But here's some of his other films. A Christmas exchange, a Christmas in the Rockies. love and harmony Valley pony sitters club baby in a manger? I mean, he's got like 30 some odd credits and every one of them looks like they're from the heart Hallmark Channel. Except this one.

Vanessa: 53:09

Yes.

Eric: 53:10

And something in this guy said I have to direct a horror film. And he nailed it. Did he break this

Kelly: 53:17

one also or don't know? That would be interesting if he's just been making all these home schooling. I can't wait to make my really crazy horror.

Unknown: 53:27

The pay me

Eric: 53:29

as a writer to robot story he didn't write looks like he's a story writer but didn't write the script.

Kelly: 53:33

I'll say this the relationship between the adults Oh feel so real dad. I'm sure that's all honed on years of Hallmark Channel.

Eric: 53:42

Yes, exactly. And that's part of why I think it works so well. is the love and caring between the husband and the you absolutely believe these people will do anything for Jackson. Yeah, cuz they are so connected to each other and the and the side characters are all great. And they're not one or two of them. Sounds like a beer. Sounds like in a lot of movies would be cliche characters. I think they're given a fair amount of depth. Even if they're just barely on the screen like the guy who constantly wants to shovel their yard has a solid group of scenes. And the acting is all top notch. The effects are top notch and the ideas and the execution are wonderfully neck we're talking about original earlier. Yeah, you've seen shit like this before, but you really haven't seen done like this. And it's a lot of fun. And it just nailed me when I watch it gone. I love it.

Vanessa: 54:47

I will say the ghosts in it. Were very effective. Yes. Yeah. They

Eric: 54:50

don't have a lot of scares, but the ones that does. Are there.

Vanessa: 54:54

Yeah, definitely. And you know, like, exactly they aren't it after a while. It's like not as scary but then you get a new one and it's like, oh my god, what the hell is happening right now? So yeah, definitely it didn't make my list but I can totally see why it would be at the top of yours

Kelly: 55:15

really, really well written brilliantly cast because what he's asking you to do is root for the bad guys and you you absolutely root for the bad guys the entire time because they're simple. They're accidental bad guys. You're right. So they don't they don't really want to be doing this. They just don't feel like they've got another choice. Yeah,

Eric: 55:36

and it does that very rare thing really well, where it's talking about before with the way too serious all the time. If this had been a flat out serious film, it wouldn't work at all. No, but since it's got that wonderful give and take of humor and weirdness and things people know what they're doing these people have no idea what they're doing. Back and forth. So well. I just think it's incredibly well executed.

Kelly: 55:59

The the humor is all based in I mean, if you can imagine if you found out your grandma was a practicing satanist, but she had just started funny.

Vanessa: 56:10

Yeah, they're little meetups with the other people who are also part of this so good.

Eric: 56:16

So it was like I just this is just something I do for fun. I like

Vanessa: 56:21

to it reminded me so much of the one time that we did our podcasts in the community library. Like you can borrow these rooms for anything.

Eric: 56:33

Good point. Yep. So that was my 2020 number one I think I know what yours might

Vanessa: 56:38

weirdly enough you probably do. Much like you this came to my list late in the game it was while I was trying to fit in some more 2020 titles and just see what was out there that I'd missed. And I'm so glad I did. My number one is spontaneous. To no one's surprise good.

Eric: 56:57

What I had that that was three for me.

Vanessa: 56:59

It's I just it affected me pretty deeply. I think much like relative for you. This one touched on some personal topics for me, like losing a parent and then seeing people around you disappear was really just I cried. I definitely cried. And I think critics agree 98% audience is slightly less so 72% the director for this actually also was the writer for underwater love and monsters. divergent babysitter.

Kelly: 57:31

Yeah, he had a good year.

Eric: 57:32

Yeah, good.

Vanessa: 57:34

Good going. Brian Duffield way to go dude, you rocked it. I really enjoyed the cast. I think Katherine Langford, who you might remember from knives out and maybe love Simon. She was in 13 reasons why she just really, I don't know, like she was very effective as the like fun, controlled out of control, but really controlled teen the, you know, the one that with the cool parents that kind of let them you know, let her do whatever she wants, but also she's not gonna do anything bad anyway, so it's fine. Um, I don't know, just for me.

Eric: 58:11

It was on my list. Yeah. What was it that you got? For me? Part of what worked is I really liked her and her boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah. And you kind of know what's coming. So there were scenes like when they were in the barn, I've gone please let this scene and I don't want this scene going because what fight happens? So you've got these incredibly sweet scenes with this intense level of tension going underneath gone? Okay, no doubt. Yeah. All right. And when it finally is executed, like, wow,

Vanessa: 58:44

yep. You know, exactly like you have these kind of, you know, that everyone is a ticking time bomb. Yeah, everyone, and you have no idea what's going to happen with any of them. And I think that, yeah, that feeling of just wanting to see them happy and then being forced to undergo strong moments of extreme unhappiness from different characters and, and then finding a silver lining. It was hard. It's hard to pull that out of that movie, but they I felt like they did. And I think that's why effect affected me so strongly is they actually brought me to the darkest possible place, and then brought me back out.

Unknown: 59:26

So I can see that I remember see that.

Kelly: 59:29

I liked this movie a lot. Not as much as you guys. I thought the dialogue was just a little too clever. And I was telling Eric when I saw that, I was like, boy, this makes me feel old. Man because I think if I was like Vanessa in my 20s and female, sir, then I would probably enjoy this a lot more. But just noticing how clever the dialogue was make me feel old

Vanessa: 59:57

and it does speak to a very different Generation for sure. Like the the people who are going through high school right now do not know what it is to be a jock versus nerd. Yeah, you know, like, that's gone, that world does not exist anymore. It's not a problem if, for the most part, it's not as big of a problem if you have gender fluidity, it's a whole different world and and they're surrounded by internet and phones and different lines of communication and different ideas.

Kelly: 1:00:27

nerd culture is pop culture.

Vanessa: 1:00:30

Yeah, it is.

Kelly: 1:00:31

Everybody's a nerd.

Vanessa: 1:00:32

Big Bang Theory is just a common show. It is their friends, you know?

Kelly: 1:00:38

Yeah, very nice. One of the things I liked about it, a common complaint for the dark in the wicked is no explanation for why all this horrible shit is happening. It's very broad explanation at the end where it might be because the grandpa was bad guy, but we never get any, you know, he sold a soul or anything like that. That works so much better in kind of a romantic comedy situation where, you know, there's no explanation for why these kids are suddenly exploding. And we don't need to know. That's not what the story is. But

Vanessa: 1:01:11

exactly, which Yeah, I absolutely love that. Because any explanation is going to be bad. We're not going to like it. So why bother? It's going

Kelly: 1:01:19

to take away from what is important, which is a story of her and what she's going through.

Eric: 1:01:24

Yeah. And I think the potential would have been destroyed. If I brought it like when, like, the government found what was wrong. Yeah,

Kelly: 1:01:32

too high a midichlorians.

Vanessa: 1:01:35

And they're like, we're not gonna explain it to some teens. And since we're with a teen, it's like, you wouldn't get it anyway. So don't worry about it kind of thing. And that that works for me.

Eric: 1:01:45

Yeah, I like that one. So yeah, what

Unknown: 1:01:48

is

Kelly: 1:01:49

this one's gonna surprise you guys. I picked for my number one. Wolf of snow hollow.

Vanessa: 1:01:54

Shocking, completely shocking. I definitely had no idea this was gonna be somewhere near the top of your list.

Eric: 1:02:00

I knew it was going to be on your list. So when it hadn't showed up yet? Well, I know what number one is.

Kelly: 1:02:05

Yeah. a budget of $2 million. Box office have 185,000 Rotten Tomatoes. Critics have it at 89% and the audience has it at 72% I know exactly why.

Eric: 1:02:18

I'm gonna share it real quick. I can guarantee you this is probably going to be one of the next movies I watched I purposely did not want to talk about it. And the way you described her going, God This could fall into my top five pretty easily so I'm just not going to allow you know what a sacrifice

Kelly: 1:02:36

thanks, but

Vanessa: 1:02:37

I did watch it. But

Kelly: 1:02:38

Vanessa, just ignore all that she said I I said about Eric earlier. It was written and directed by Jim Cummings, who wrote and directed Thunder Road. Do you guys see that movie? It won Sundance a couple years back? He plays a neurotic cop. And now I know you haven't seen it. It's fantastic. He got his start. So when you look on the IMDB page, they showed like the film's he's known for such and such so he's known for wolf of snow hollow Thunder Road. Captain America The Winter Soldier. And I was like what? Like go on there. His first film he was a PA glory I love it. Yeah. Wow. What

Eric: 1:03:22

a what a difference. It shows up. There that Okay, time to put my movie together, but I can't have any of that.

Kelly: 1:03:30

It also stars Jim Cummings and Riki lindhome who was in knives stout knives out and a ton of other things but as also Garfunkel and Garfunkel notes, and Robert Forster, who is a goddamn legend. 189 credits including Jackie Brown vigilante alligator and the black hole. This is jazz with a werewolf in the snow. Nice Derek grips a small mountain town his bodies are discovered discovered after each full moon. The sheriff is divorced, hates his wife has a teenage daughter who he loves very much but doesn't connect with very well in some very funny moments. And he's doing all of this stuff. Robert Forster is his ailing father and the police chief. And it appears they have a werewolf killing people. This is the movie I would expect if the Coen Brothers announced they were going to make a werewolf movie. Oh, wow. Yeah, it is shockingly gory. It's very very talky. The lead is neurotic mess, which is something that Jim Cummings seems to have a good handle on because he plays pretty much the same character and Thunder Road. And it's got some really ridiculous humor moments in it. That made me laugh a few seconds after they had happened. Oh, cuz I had to think about it. There was like dialogue that just raced by and then I was like, teach it. It's also surprisingly bittersweet because Forster plays the sick and ailing father and kind of mirrors what was going on with his health. In his last days. This was his last film. Oh, wow. Just to nail some of the funny stuff down, I took a couple of quotes that I liked from the dialogue. This is the sheriff talking to his daughter. He says, I'm having a hard time with this thing, honey, it's nothing you have to worry about. I'm going to find the guy obviously. But I'm just curious if you still have that pepper spray that I got you for communion. Says I think so you realize that was a weird gift to give somebody right? He says I do. It's okay. You'll never need it. But I want you to promise me that you're gonna find it and keep it on you at all times. And then his dad talking to him. When he says you're gonna have a hard time getting my generation off the stage. Willie Nelson still doing concerts? He says, Yeah, I mean, to be fair, dad, Willie Nelson is playing guitar. And he's not doing a lot of heavy police work. And, and Robert Forster when all of this stuff starts going on, he gets on his computer. And the news reports are trying to contact them and he's like, Oh, my God. What is this 11 new emails on this thing this morning? Jesus Christ, this is worse than my birthday. So this is a werewolf movie in the same way that jaws is a shark movie, which is to say it is not a werewolf movie. It is a human movie. The characters are really, really well fleshed out the relationships between just friends between the ex wife between the daughter and his father. They all felt so believable and then in the middle is slapped this werewolf story. And a lot of people are gonna say not a werewolf story. But when you see that werewolf the first time you're like, Fuck, yes. That is the coolest werewolf I've seen on screen. Very, very dog soldiers design on the werewolf. And I just loved it. I'm gonna watch it again. Just talking about it made me love it.

Eric: 1:07:11

Like I said, it looks pretty damn good to me. So I'm gonna know out there that I'm liking that.

Kelly: 1:07:18

You said you saw it but I haven't heard you talk about it. So yeah. did not love it as much as I didn't

Vanessa: 1:07:23

love it as much as you did. But I do think that they did a lot of really cool shit. Like the town is super neat. I just didn't like the main character that much. So it was really hard for me to live in that world with him. But those lines that you mentioned, I remember that communion one very well. I just be like, Oh my god, what? The daughter was really getting in there. I like I like where the movie goes a lot.

Kelly: 1:07:51

Yeah, I won't say that. His character is hard to like, but he's a he's a complex individual. And there Yes. And things that he does that you're like, why would you do that? But then that made me go because some people do that sometimes. Yeah, nobody's nobody's great.

Eric: 1:08:08

My credit Roy Schrader.

Kelly: 1:08:12

I think that that he owes a lot to his character a lot of his character to Roy shader though. There's an in this script I think owes a lot to jobs. I feel like he really wanted to kind of make that kind of movie. Yeah,

Vanessa: 1:08:23

I do think that the story is super good. Super, super good story for sure.

Eric: 1:08:28

Sure. We just lightning round a few months or something. But

Kelly: 1:08:32

yeah, let's see what what I got one.

Eric: 1:08:35

I thought for sure was going to be in my top five in February. But is not. I think color. I have a dark

Kelly: 1:08:43

color out of space.

Vanessa: 1:08:45

I was I yeah, it's funny, because I keep forgetting that was this year.

Eric: 1:08:48

Yeah, technically it was this year.

Kelly: 1:08:50

I think that I thought we counted it in our last year.

Eric: 1:08:53

We did the same thing that we've mentioned it it's like but technically is gonna be a 2020 movie. So it shouldn't be on our core. And I look back on if it had if we hadn't seen in 2019 it was just 2028 probably it would be on my I really liked it but it would not have been in my top five. Yeah.

Vanessa: 1:09:15

Something that was so close to being my number five, it was unreal. Um, host the shutter film with a bunch of people hanging out on a chat and doing a live seance that goes terribly wrong just is just so so well. Done.

Eric: 1:09:36

I would say that is two thirds, like done this. This I thought was interesting too, and a lot of fun. And it did that thing. We talked somewhat with the Mandalorian about where it was like a 15 minute movie. It was short.

Vanessa: 1:09:49

Yeah, it was very short and but which was good. Yeah, it was the length that needed to be I felt like and I just really liked what they did. I mean it's a COVID film. For sure. Like It was made during COVID. And they let you know that

Kelly: 1:10:03

Yeah, I will say those guys were on top of shit not only getting something out this quickly, but also tying it into zoom which is something that crazy very few of us know about at the beginning of this now everybody is

Vanessa: 1:10:17

anyone who had stock in zoom.

Kelly: 1:10:19

Wow. Well, you knew that underwater was going to be on my list and that's that push back. Come to daddy with Elijah Wood. I still want to see that one. Remember you're talking about it but haven't seen it. I love it. It starts out as a ghost story and ends up as something way weirder.

Eric: 1:10:39

Got a VFW?

Kelly: 1:10:41

That's right. That's on my list here too.

Eric: 1:10:44

That would have been close, but no, just but it's a lot of fun. It just didn't stick with me like some of the other ones did but it's definitely well worth watching and a lot of fun. And vast is the night the Amazon

Kelly: 1:10:56

that is shirtless to Yeah, yeah. You saw that one. That was the one with all the radio radio thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think is that amazing camera shot that goes out of town. Yeah.

Vanessa: 1:11:09

Geez. Yeah, it's such such good camera work. And I love the dialogue. It's super snappy. The characters are really fun. It reminds me a lot of Amy Sherman Palladino his work. But the ending wasn't my favorite. So that's that's what made it not. I felt like they ran out of ideas of what they wanted to do. Which was unfortunate.

Kelly: 1:11:30

I like the ending because it's very lovecraftian. Yeah. Basically as a sense of dread. Yeah. At the end instead of winding up anything or a happy ending or anything. Oh, we're nothing.

Vanessa: 1:11:48

Yeah, basically, basically.

Kelly: 1:11:51

This one I think on any normal year would have been very close to my number one. The Invisible Man.

Unknown: 1:11:57

Yeah. Sam.

Eric: 1:11:59

Yeah. Incredibly, well done. incredibly smart, and interesting. And technically, sound.

Kelly: 1:12:08

Yeah, big, big budget horror. This made me wonder if I think that our attention would be split. along a lot of other movies that actually made it to the theater this year. Not just horror, but you know, I can't believe I didn't get my Fast and Furious film. And you know, shit like that. I think that the pandemic allowed for a lot of these smaller movies to release because these gigantic movies were holding back to see if they could somehow get a theatrical slightly Top Gun and the

Eric: 1:12:42

isn't there a Mission Impossible movie or? Well, they're

Kelly: 1:12:45

filming Mission Impossible. Yeah, Tom Cruise is yelling. Oh, everybody.

Vanessa: 1:12:52

Be healthy onset. Apparently.

Eric: 1:12:54

Another fun one. Maybe they're vampires versus the Bronx.

Kelly: 1:12:58

Oh, that was fun.

Vanessa: 1:12:59

I actually forgot about that one.

Eric: 1:13:01

Yeah, that was the I liked it. But it is kind of forgettable. Unless you're, I don't know if you're eight or nine. It's probably gonna love it until you're 45 and watch it again. Go. Okay, it's fun.

Kelly: 1:13:14

I remember I think I think it dropped on Halloween or something like that. It was a perfect little Halloween. No.

Vanessa: 1:13:22

Mine. Another one that I really liked that I only saw recently, but was probably the number one box office for the US or somewhere? I don't know. 10 it ever did see. I

Eric: 1:13:33

haven't seen that one. Yeah,

Kelly: 1:13:35

I don't know why I haven't seen. It's available to me now. Like,

Vanessa: 1:13:39

I thought, you know, I thought that was going to be the film that was going to be the first thing I'd seen cinemas when we were allowed back in. And obviously that just everything took longer. I went ahead and checked it out. And it's a really fun mental puzzle. That's what I like the most about it is I wouldn't say it like blew me away. It's definitely not the best Chris Nolan film. But it's still a Chris Nolan film, and there's a lot going on in it and it's very rewatchable so I need to watch it another like two or three times and I'm not even kidding. But like not in a painful way in a Oh, I my brain is very interested in this kind of way. So

Kelly: 1:14:19

yeah, I get a bite the bullet on that one. I don't know why I don't know why I haven't

Vanessa: 1:14:23

it's I would say like I think a lot of people were extreme in their opinions of it of it either being very good or very bad. I really think that it has. It has its issues for sure. But it's totally worth checking out.

Eric: 1:14:36

I know kind of why mine why and it's a dumb reason. Nolan just kind of sticks in my craw a little bit. It's that he seemed to poopoo anything that wasn't shot on film as be worth his time. It's like no,

Vanessa: 1:14:52

it's it's hard. I mean, like he's definitely got a personality along those lines. He shows up on all of his sets in like a full suit. And everything. I mean, he's, he's definitely cool. He's got his own thing going on. That's never bothered me. But the thing that does also stick in my crock rah, rah.

Eric: 1:15:11

I don't know if that's from but I know it's the same.

Vanessa: 1:15:12

It's very exciting. I like it. I got to figure out what it means is his sound design is really troubling. The m&e just swallows dialogue. So I did actually watch tonight with the subtitles on and thank God I did. Wow, if I hadn't, I would not have I mean, there were a lot of people who complained about this in the theater. They just could not hear what people were saying. And it's already a very difficult film to figure out what's going on. So without that dialogue, you're really really screwed. But with the subtitles, yeah, that worked for me just fine by he started, he definitely did that in Dunkirk, and I just wanted to murder him. Because the music and effects were so drowning out and destroying about film for me. So that's I, that's my personal issue with him.

Kelly: 1:16:02

Is this a soundtrack that has the Hans Zimmer honking through?

Vanessa: 1:16:07

It does have a fair amount of sound wall to wall. But it's not as irritating as the law was, wasn't there like a website or like a button that somebody made like a phone app that you could just press that whenever you

Kelly: 1:16:24

need it?

Eric: 1:16:27

But I'll still see it. I just because that's it.

Unknown: 1:16:31

No, I

Vanessa: 1:16:32

mean, I think it's fair. And I've definitely had similar moments where I'm like, screw you, buddy. Like I have a really hard time with Michael Bay, because of such stories I've heard and that's, you know, it was kind of maybe not fair. But you know, I know that I like a lot of his films, but I just think he's a horrible human being. Yeah. So

Kelly: 1:16:53

what about uh, if I was making a feel good. Top Five. I would have dropped scare me in there.

Vanessa: 1:17:00

I thought it was really neat and super well acted, but it wasn't like it didn't blow me away. Okay.

Eric: 1:17:06

Yeah. I enjoyed it.

Kelly: 1:17:07

I like it a lot.

Vanessa: 1:17:07

Yeah, it was it had a lot of good in there. But I think Yeah,

Eric: 1:17:12

my next cluster of sorry. No, no. Okay. four films leap of faith possessor the hunt. And one we haven't mentioned his house.

Vanessa: 1:17:24

Oh, sure. Yeah, his house which

Eric: 1:17:27

had problems, but I found the idea. Because the number one complaint we always say about horror films is on our content house movies. Like why don't you just leave the house?

Unknown: 1:17:37

Yeah.

Eric: 1:17:38

This one made that really difficult to just leave the house.

Vanessa: 1:17:43

And he tries to it's not like he does the thing that you want people to do in horror films of like, fight against the issue and do the natural thing that you yourself would do.

Eric: 1:17:55

Did you see this one?

Kelly: 1:17:55

I did not. But it has 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. Ooh, it's quite good. But I have theories Why?

Eric: 1:18:04

It's got good it's got some really good solid scares. It's got some CGI problems in the scares occasionally, but that tends to not bother me too much. But I know people have mentioned it so I thought I would. acne is pretty solid. It's not it's good. I wouldn't. doesn't fall like the changeling or anything like that. But it's good. It's worth seeing.

Vanessa: 1:18:27

Um, a couple of final ones on my list. haunt. I don't know if either of you guys ended up seeing that. It's like a shutter film where they're go through a haunted house.

Kelly: 1:18:37

Yeah,

Vanessa: 1:18:38

like a fairground haunted house. Joe Bob. Oh, yeah. Part of his.

Eric: 1:18:43

Where it's um, it's got some weird security they go through.

Vanessa: 1:18:48

They leave their like cell phones and little bit. Yeah.

Eric: 1:18:51

That one had a lot of brake press when it came out. And then I watched it. That was fun.

Vanessa: 1:18:56

I thought it was fun. I thought it was a neat idea and very good for such a low budget film. I think it's a first film as well. Yeah, and really, I don't know I I walked away going, man, they did a great job. This is a hard topic to pull off the fairground amusement attraction with the ensemble and I liked a lot of what they did in there. So that was great. And then Enola Holmes I just have to give a shout out to

Kelly: 1:19:28

that was such a fun phone keep forgetting about that. I do want to watch out

Vanessa: 1:19:31

you should definitely check it out. It's it's just especially if you enjoy something like Sherlock. It's nice to kind of get a more rounded viewpoint of that universe. And just a fun Fast Furious little film.

Kelly: 1:19:47

I got a couple of last ones Eric, you got some more stuff. After um, I really liked that film that you did not like Vanessa the wretched about the witch next door.

Vanessa: 1:19:56

Oh yeah, I didn't like I like that

Eric: 1:19:58

one. varium on my

Kelly: 1:20:01

Oh, I did not put their name I guess

Eric: 1:20:04

no one's gonna talk about on the bottom of it.

Vanessa: 1:20:08

I guess none of us are gonna talk about I'm thinking of ending things. very divisive. But yeah, gone. No, I

Kelly: 1:20:15

just I just liked that it was kind of a mix between well wasn't even a mix. It was basically Friday night with a witch instead of a vampire. Mm hmm.

Eric: 1:20:24

Yeah, pretty much.

Vanessa: 1:20:26

I liked the witch looks cool. Yeah, true. cool looking.

Kelly: 1:20:30

The witch parts were better than the Friday night parts.

Vanessa: 1:20:35

Yeah, the Friday parts of the part. I didn't like.

Eric: 1:20:38

Sure. Let's see what else shoot off here real quick. Well, I did like porno in the end of that. That was fun. I did to La llorona the Spanish one. I

Vanessa: 1:20:49

just saw that the red

Eric: 1:20:53

one No.

Unknown: 1:20:54

Yeah.

Kelly: 1:20:55

Did you like it?

Vanessa: 1:20:56

I hate Yeah, I actually I just watched that. The other day. It's so cool. Yeah. Because it's not it's like a horror film that is wedged up against like a kind of a crime drama,

Eric: 1:21:08

political thriller drama thing. Yeah.

Vanessa: 1:21:11

So you think you're you're shoved in one film. That's the main film. And then you get like horror bashing its head against it. And it's really well done, like a very well done film.

Unknown: 1:21:23

Yeah.

Kelly: 1:21:24

I was I actually avoided it based on that. To give it a chance.

Vanessa: 1:21:29

I think you should give it a try. I mean, I don't know. You know, his taste better than maybe I shouldn't recommend or not recommend. Actually,

Eric: 1:21:35

I think you'd know about 15 minutes in if it's gonna. Yeah, or not. That sounds about right. And a couple strange mentions here real quick one called Uncle peckerhead.

Kelly: 1:21:46

I've heard of this and have not seen it and

Eric: 1:21:48

not heard of that. It was a it would have been a cryptic on film. But we weren't we didn't do any features. Really what we did one feature for the streaming stuff, but it was a band a no. Nobody knows about kind of band touring in a van that somehow gets mixed up with a serial killer. who becomes their roadie. They don't know what he does initially. And it's just a lot of fun. I was really surprised by how

Kelly: 1:22:16

much fun that film was. Is that streaming somewhere? Yeah,

Eric: 1:22:19

it's on a pretty sure it's Amazon or shutter. I'll check that out. And the one br pass that out.

Kelly: 1:22:26

Yeah, put that on my list. I don't know if I can say I enjoyed it. But as well done, but it was well done.

Eric: 1:22:32

And my final mention for the year is the gore scene of the Year in Hunter Hunter.

Kelly: 1:22:38

I've got that on my list here.

Unknown: 1:22:39

Hmm.

Kelly: 1:22:41

That is a that is a creepy movie.

Eric: 1:22:44

Yeah. And I had no idea who the lead actor was until I looked it up later on.

Kelly: 1:22:50

Right. Devin? So so far was Oh, yeah.

Vanessa: 1:22:55

Devin saw. Yeah.

Eric: 1:22:58

Brandon is unrecognizable in that role, at least for me. Yeah.

Kelly: 1:23:03

And especially at the end

Vanessa: 1:23:07

you know, there were there were a bunch of films I really wished that I had gotten to see and have not yet and I don't know if you guys managed to fit any of these end, but they were on a lot of topless like, surely have not seen them. I'm st mod and I never got around to she dies tomorrow. You saw Sputnik she dies. Tomorrow's aggravating. Oh, okay. Got it. And then extraordinary. I desperately want to see, but bakura is a big one for a lot of people to back over. And it's like an Australian. I don't even know. It's um, yeah, Australian horror film. I'm not heard that. It's it's like really top five for a lot of film reviewers.

Kelly: 1:23:53

I did love extraordinary. But that's about the the woman who is the drivers. Yeah. I have a still use it in one of my day. Okay. I really want to see that one. But it's so it's very cute. I would I would not put it on a best of horror list. Yeah.

Vanessa: 1:24:13

Yeah, these are I mean, I have so so many 2020 Films left to see I it's so funny. During 2020. I was like, I don't know what to watch. And I can't even think of what to order for my mom on disk on Netflix. And now I'm like, Oh, God, I have so many movies to check out. In a good way.

Eric: 1:24:31

Yeah, good. Yeah.

Kelly: 1:24:33

I'll finish then with the vigil, which I thought was pretty decent. It's a Jewish horror film. And the, the premise is that, I guess that there is a waiting period after a person dies and somebody waits with the body to you know, make sure they get to heaven, I suppose. And this kid is hired to do it and it is a very scary night. Oh

Vanessa: 1:25:05

yeah, like super fun.

Kelly: 1:25:07

And then just a couple of series that I just fucking love. Sweet Home is on Netflix. And it is a Korean series about a kid who moves into an apartment complex. And then the what appears that the complex has gone to shit. But by Episode Three, you realize that the entire world has gone to shit. And there are just monsters everywhere. And it's kind of it's almost got a zombie feel to it not in the monster design, but in the fact that people can get infected and they hide that from other residents and stuff like that. And then they turn into monsters, and I really enjoyed that one. But my big favorite was Alison borderland. Yes. You see that one, which is a mixture of lost and Battle Royale. on Netflix, that is on Netflix. Yeah, I fucking loved it. And don't want to forget that the grudge had a series at the beginning of the year that I thought was pretty good. Yeah. Oh,

Vanessa: 1:26:08

that's a very great story.

Eric: 1:26:11

Yeah, one just yesterday called hashtag alive, which starts off really good. It's a Korean film, and then just becomes every other you've ever seen. That was really disappointing because that opening 20 until really until he finds the other person alive. It was like, this is really unique and interesting. And then they find each other and it becomes a zombie movie.

Vanessa: 1:26:33

You know, there was just so much good TV this year. That mean during lockdown, I just felt really blessed. So many options. Hashtag hashtag blessed. I mean, we all kind of checked out, of course. Mandalorian 300,000.

Kelly: 1:26:50

Dead, Vanessa.

Unknown: 1:26:54

No, I feel bad. I'm

Kelly: 1:26:56

glad that you feel blessed.

Vanessa: 1:26:57

Oh my god.

Eric: 1:26:59

I could go so dark right now, but I'll be nice.

Vanessa: 1:27:05

watchmen was really good. Um, lest we forget. It was I know. This is not okay. It's kind of slipped through the cracks. I think. Yeah, that was a really fun

Kelly: 1:27:18

one until you smacked me in the face and said watch this. And I loved it. I forgot all about

Vanessa: 1:27:25

it girl who it's kind of like Carrie.

Eric: 1:27:27

Okay. Yeah, that was really good. I didn't see that one. Yeah,

Vanessa: 1:27:30

very good. Um, Dev was this year. Oh,

Kelly: 1:27:33

I still have not watched.

Vanessa: 1:27:38

It was fun to watch and also very weird and kind of Twilight Zone II. Boys season two.

Eric: 1:27:45

Yeah, that was good.

Kelly: 1:27:45

How did I forget the boys?

Vanessa: 1:27:47

Right? So good. And my personal favorite. That has just made my whole world so much better. Lower decks. Star Trek lower deck. So good. So good. Did probably my second favorite Star Trek series. Nothing can ever be next gen But no, it is so good. It's just like so lovingly well done.

Eric: 1:28:11

Obviously made by somebody who loves the hell out I forgot. It's the guy from is it?

Vanessa: 1:28:17

Working brick and mortar mortar? Yeah,

Unknown: 1:28:18

I just

Eric: 1:28:20

love Star Trek.

Vanessa: 1:28:21

Yeah,

Eric: 1:28:22

all about it. They have seen all of this.

Vanessa: 1:28:25

They know deep cut. There are deep cuts. There's in the one of the last episodes, there's a little flying robot thing. And it's I was like, why does this look familiar? It's a prop that gets reused over and over and over again in Star Trek. If you ever look up like reused props. Oh, wow. I was like, Oh my God, that's such a deep guide.

Eric: 1:28:44

You guys like the carpet for trauma?

Vanessa: 1:28:50

What about you guys? Were there any series that

Eric: 1:28:53

I didn't really write down any and you just named a whole lot of I know, you know, shits Creek was the one that but that wasn't necessarily 22. That was a 2020 phenomenon. May was the 20 show off for sure. I and I still haven't made it that raised by wolves. Oh, yeah. That was green.

Kelly: 1:29:09

Yeah. I will say that the stand is going downhill very quickly.

Vanessa: 1:29:13

Oh, no, I was I was about to start that.

Eric: 1:29:18

I think I've watched all but the last 10 minutes of the third episode. And I'm yeah, so like, now we'll see

Kelly: 1:29:27

where this goes. I blame the nonlinear storytelling, which is completely unnecessary. And then ruins any kind of reveals that would happen in the story if you haven't read the story, right?

Eric: 1:29:39

Yep. Yeah, that it's not it's not done particularly well, because they just it just switches scenes. Then you got it. Oh, oh, now we're current. It doesn't take long to fill it. But the same time you got to send that second or two going What? Oh, okay. And now we're back to the current Oh, this is an old one. And yeah, they should have just told the damn story. I agree. Hmm, that's a showed up showed up at Boulder. Like what Episode Two I think.

Kelly: 1:30:06

Let's start there in Episode 104 scene is them clearing our bodies and I was like, Okay, I can handle this as a gimmick for the first episode, but I didn't realize it was going to run through the series

Vanessa: 1:30:21

and trusting I so I was debating maybe trying to read the book. And then books watch the series. I like

Kelly: 1:30:29

how you're gonna try to read the book comprehension skills or

Vanessa: 1:30:35

it's just a big book a big book. I mean, I mean, it's for Game of Thrones, so I have faith, but it's a big book.

Eric: 1:30:43

I mean, like it's a lot easier to follow the Game of Thrones once you hit I read the Game of Thrones, the first three novels Yeah, three freaking times. Well, third time I got to the third one every time I I'm done. Because it's so convoluted. There are so many characters and it only gets worse as you get in here about these people. I'm just gonna watch the show. Yeah.

Vanessa: 1:31:02

When you get to the onion night that I had a moment of, do I want to carry on or am I done and I carried on? I'm glad I did.

Eric: 1:31:10

I like the world but whose writings great those first two novels are easily obviously reread of old but

Vanessa: 1:31:18

yeah, so maybe maybe that'll So between on the stand? We've got the current thing. The previous miniseries and the book, how would you approach the books?

Eric: 1:31:28

Oh, the original publication and there's I don't know what they called.

Kelly: 1:31:31

It was a it was a a slim 893 page volume when it first came out. And then they expanded it all the stuff that he had cut out once he became the master of horror they put back in so there is the stand complete and uncut, which has an extra character that had been cut and an ending that had been cut and all sorts of extra stuff.

Vanessa: 1:31:56

Alright, so where am I supposed to start with this?

Kelly: 1:31:57

I think that the original stand sits fine on its own. And I don't know how you are with like audible or on tape and that kind of stuff hands

Vanessa: 1:32:08

on who's reading that he's

Kelly: 1:32:09

got a really good reader. And that book on tape is excellent. Okay,

Vanessa: 1:32:15

so I do do a lot of long drives. Right. Stay tuned from the podcast. Right go. And I am getting a little tired of NPR so

Unknown: 1:32:23

Oh, geez.

Vanessa: 1:32:25

I've listened to so much NPR. I know. It's mostly Well,

Kelly: 1:32:31

I don't can't wait to see what they say next, just on the edge of my toe. It's been

Vanessa: 1:32:36

rough year. Just like what who else who will have died? Not so much the content is more Hi,

Eric: 1:32:41

welcome to NPR. station here, we're gonna all break a little bit and then we'll come right back. And we'll be talking about my edit the fuck out of that show. To calm

Kelly: 1:32:52

it down. Just

Eric: 1:32:53

edit that show toast so tightly that it's like, it's okay for somebody and take a breath occasionally.

Vanessa: 1:33:01

And I will say though, if you listen to it late at night, the hate switch to this really adorable Canadian show where they talk about like Canadian issues and they're like, This man wandered down the riverbank for a few days on a floatation device. Let's let's bring you my name. Or this woman went no joke. One of them was this woman has a plant store called Mary Jane and has now got the wrong kind of business people coming in. How do you deal with this? You know, 80 year old lady. Like their stories are so good.

Eric: 1:33:34

I love it. It's legal now. So I am making so much more Bobby.

Vanessa: 1:33:39

Just switch it around switch around. Yeah, no, it's so there are these little gems in there. And if you happen to catch them, I mean, that's how I learned about things like the Morph and just little stuff in there that you're like, oh my god and radiolab which I'm kind of obsessed with now. Yeah, sure.

Kelly: 1:33:55

riveting stuff. All right. I feel like we've spoken for far too long. We

Unknown: 1:33:59

have we

Eric: 1:34:00

have even still we're like 20 minutes shy of the Oh, tell

Kelly: 1:34:03

us more about your NPR episode.

Vanessa: 1:34:07

I'm sorry, but I will say thank you guys so much for sticking with us through 2020 listeners. Yeah,

Eric: 1:34:14

there's a lot It was a weird for podcasting because a lot of podcasts listening dropped off significantly, especially for first couple months. But podcasts being created. exploded. Yeah, we use buzzsprout. And they do a podcast where they of course, they talk about podcasting. At the beginning of the year their their YouTube channel had 5000 listeners. their YouTube channel now has over 50,000 Wow. growth in one year. Yeah, there's a lot of new podcasts out there. So thank you for sticking with us and enjoy what we're doing. Yeah, we

Kelly: 1:34:55

understand you don't have an hour commute to work anymore because you don't have a job. Appreciate you at least continuing to hit that subscribe button whether you're listening or not.

Vanessa: 1:35:04

Yes, thumbs up subscribe. Five Star with a horrible film for Eric to watch. It's been a while bring that home bring it Oh, absolutely. Andrew tunes. And we had to do our pandemic episodes where there was a couple of times where either I felt sick or just we weren't going to be in the same room so much. Yeah, so

Kelly: 1:35:26

yeah, we a little, a little, twice weekly. For fun,

Vanessa: 1:35:33

totally different, you know, rolling with the punches. No, I can't wait till you guys are vaccinated, and I'm vaccinated and we can just hang out and not ever feel guilty about not getting vaccinated.

Kelly: 1:35:46

Okay, nevermind. Well, that's fine chip in my arm. Well,

Eric: 1:35:49

I'll just carry my phone. spare the chip,

Vanessa: 1:35:52

am I the only one who's gonna be vaccinated? Okay,

Kelly: 1:35:56

I imagine we'll all be forced to be vaccinated. labeled as zombies of the state.

Vanessa: 1:36:01

Well, yes. Okay. That's where it's, I don't even want to get into it. But I have one best friend who said surprisingly, she get vaccinated. I was worried that she wasn't. And the other one, even more surprisingly, who said she would not and I was like, I don't? What would you

Eric: 1:36:19

say anyways?

Vanessa: 1:36:21

The thing I've heard is a lot of people saying it happened too quick. It was made too quickly. And I think having now listened to many NPR sponsored broadcasts about the science behind it, and how it was done. And the the reason why it is so fast, and the guy who is responsible for most of the inoculations that exist on planet earth, and why we're using his science to get where we're now at. It's I was like, okay, cool, I'm fine. Just give me it. And I'm allergic to everything. So if I'm gonna get it, and possibly die, then y'all, I can't even have eggs, like and what's in a vaccine is so

Kelly: 1:37:03

well, you guys, go ahead, get your vaccine. I have rights.

Vanessa: 1:37:07

It's fine if we're vaccinated, but just to two thirds. Does that get huge herd immunity? If you and I

Kelly: 1:37:16

is the lamest herd in this room,

Vanessa: 1:37:21

we're responsible for the greater good.

Eric: 1:37:23

There you go.

Vanessa: 1:37:24

Okay. And then for that,

Kelly: 1:37:27

okay, so as usual, thank you to all the people who are liking sharing us. topic. Oh, shit, Whose is it? My oh, my God, I thank God.

Eric: 1:37:41

For our next episode, it's my turn to pick a topic. We're back to normal talking. And which I remembered about two hours ago.

Vanessa: 1:37:55

I've been stewing on it this whole time. That's right. Well, I've

Eric: 1:37:57

got kind of a weird one. So we'll see how this plays. I want you guys to come up with a great movie that you really enjoy. Genre specific, of course, our genre I mean, from a director you've never talked about on this podcast before.

Kelly: 1:38:13

I'm talking about the fall shit.

Vanessa: 1:38:17

No one's talked about john Carpenter yet. No one.

Eric: 1:38:20

Except for the three people here.

Kelly: 1:38:23

ad nauseum. Okay, all right, a genre film from it. I mean, it doesn't have to be a famous director. It could be just any film that we haven't had. That might be

Eric: 1:38:34

challenging. something you'd like to it's got to be like a film you like. So theoretically, something you already know about? Oh, but you just haven't talked about anything by that particular director.

Vanessa: 1:38:45

Oh, my gosh, okay. Huh. Yeah, this is gonna be interesting.

Unknown: 1:38:50

Okay. Can I talk about john Carpenter?

Vanessa: 1:38:53

I mean, sure.

Unknown: 1:38:57

Huh, yeah, I

Vanessa: 1:38:58

think I think I might no one, which is exciting. Yeah, awesome. Okay, well, I'm stoked. We get to go back to our normal thing.

Kelly: 1:39:08

Me too. I already did my bla bla bla on the ending. So that's what everybody's homework is. Hey, by the way anyone who's listening to this and can think of a good movie I should pick go ahead and send me Danny Ron. I'm looking at you guys Bob. And we will see you next week when we're talking I'm damn direct however that works a direct I got another than talked about already

Eric: 1:39:32

got another title problem for you. They're in the shadow

Vanessa: 1:39:35

in the shadow right now. Right.

Kelly: 1:39:41

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