112 SPROI-OI-OING!

112 SPROI-OI-OING!

Spring has sprung, and Kelly suggests a "value-for-value" model for the podcast going forward. Abel Ferrara is discussed, as well as Falcon and Winter Soldier, and The Block Island Sound. 

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Oh, sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition? To show you Strange Aeons. Welcome Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello, that's been s over there. Good day. Hey, guys, you know, we've talked off and on about like putting together some kind of Patreon thing. Yeah, it's never really kind of gel because I always feel just a little weird asking people to pay a certain amount of money and then you know, they get into the Patreon or something, they're like, this really worth it. And yeah, so I thought that I would suggest, and let's see how you feel about it. Let's see how the listeners feel about it. Kind of a value for value model in that a lot of people are doing things for us. Ron for back, Danny willeford are constantly liking sharing the post Bob, all those guys that are regulars. And and they're they're spreading the word that's value right there. Right? I'm in almost constant contact with Danny willeford. And he's working on something that is really cool that you guys are gonna be like, what? And the listeners are gonna be like, what? And there's a real value in stuff like that. Sure. And Vanessa, your friend Micah gave us a really nice a generous donation. Yeah. And I thought you know what, I'm just going to remind people, we have a virtual tip jar on our, on our website page. And if, if you want to help us out in any way, whether it's liking and sharing whatever value you get out of this, you can put back in and if you can't do anything, but like and share. You got to know we appreciate that. We appreciate that value. Yeah, definitely. If for some reason you feel compelled to also throw money at us. Well, hey, thank you. Yeah, we've got you know, one of the guys I don't think we mentioned enough for sharing is also Ryan, Ryan new, the crypto con guy shares our stuff. Yeah, cuz I'm with you on the Patreon there's I've joined over the years, probably seven or eight, I think I'm still with like three of them. Because that someone's gonna write this good. If we're gonna do a Patreon. I want something really good. Right? So if you want to, like, join in the tip jar, find out buy coffee, I think is one of the terms frequently used. and toss and you know, it was fun to see you weirdos do get a chance if you get little monkeys here to dance for you. Yeah, absolutely. If there's some kind of donation involved, please leave a message and we'll read it on the air. We'll make fun of you. We'll do all of that stuff. Because there are going to be some people who This podcast is free. And that's what it's worth to them. I completely understand that. I listened to a lot of podcasts that I do not donate a penny. Yeah. For whatever reason, this podcast as much more value to Danny Wilbert. And, but I want to make it so that whatever you think the podcast is worth, that's what you can give us whether it's your time, whether it's your talent, whether you're making jingles for us and stuff like that. All of that stuff is worth something to us. So tentative logos. Yeah. I think the only thing that I would miss from the Patreon that I it's funny because I don't even it's not even the having a consistent idea of people, you know, sending us money. It's not that that's important to me, but I like the idea that we have extra content that people can unlock. Like, I'd like that. And I wonder how we can incorporate that into some kind of model moving forward. So I thought about that. And I decided I don't like that. What if somebody can't afford to give us money? You're gonna you're gonna don't get this content. That's what I mean is I wonder if there's a way where if somebody like Danny is doing something really nice, we can just, you know, be like, come on in to the club. You are always welcome here free. of you know, sweat equity as opposed to bright cash. Exactly, exactly. Because I agree with you. I don't like the idea that like I will often for for example, for the Seattle International Film Festival, for the last three or four years I've donated time and help them come up with like, just just do edits and do assistance and putting together their opening night montage. And because of that, I often get kickbacks like, like tickets for the opening night or whatever. The heck it is, because but I can't afford that, or I haven't at least in the past, I'm able to afford that. But by giving them my time and my energy, then I get to participate in something like that. And I wonder if there's something we can do that would allow people to either financially support us or give us you know, if they happen to want to decide to do something like a really cool logo or a song or just say some really cool stuff about us online. You don't have to, but if you do, we love it. You know how we can say we appreciate that. And I also just love spending time with you guys. So I just want to make more content. I'm about burned out on spending time with you guys. This is really what I was trying to why we're the only people you see how are you burnt out first, you know, I got five other podcasts on the week that you take that kind of hurt. So anyway, that that was my thought was, let's just put that out in the air that we appreciate everything. And the Patreon thing, you know, we'll figure something out. But I like more the idea of making it inclusive to everyone. And you you give us whatever you feel this show is worth. Yeah, I definitely like that. And definitely want to say that we appreciate people it doesn't matter if it's financial or or like, like you said, like services or kind words or whatever. Like we it's all amazing. Absolutely. Yeah. The fact that you guys listen, that's amazing. Oh my god, more than one. Crazy. Everyone smile at somebody like how many people listen to you? And I'm like, I don't want to know cuz it's scary. But I love it. But it's terrifying. It's not that many so yeah, not to be terrifying. Well, the big news course this week was the Snider cut. Sure. I have to confess. I had every intention of seeing it before today. And I have not yet managed to do it. And so yeah, I was the same. Same about probably watch this. You can explain part of the reason with when we get around to my first one, but I'm curious to hear what you thought of the epic four hour. Yeah, what was the experience for you? Here's the thing. I saw just Sweden's Justice League in the theater. And I walked out and I was like, Yeah, sure. Now I've watched all four hours and two minutes of Zack Snyder's and I can objectively see that it is much better. But at the end, I still was like, yeah, that's kind of my assumption. But in IMAX, I say my fun weirdness about the whole thing about the whole situation is for years, Zack Snyder was the whipping boy of nerds online and then suddenly know he's going to be the savior of this movies like, what do you do now? Like 300, and watchmen and all the other stuff, he's done that. Now there's still suffering, although there is there's a book out, and this whole thing, talking about what he went through and how it was done. If it's any good, I be curious to read that, like a novel or a book or something. Know, like a story of what happened. I think I spent about enough time on this as I need to, you probably know a lot more about it than I do. I so I didn't realize the reason why he's stepped away from Justice League was that his daughter died or committed suicide. Holy crap. Yeah. That's harrowing. I mean, because I was trying to work out why the hell Joss Whedon was behind it. And then I, you know, just means so much highlighted as of recent times because of his grossness. And so I was like, why, why? Why is this all happening? And then why is Snyder now getting it back? Was he fired? What went on? And so I can, I mean, I, it probably has nothing to do with it. But I wonder if people are just like, oh, he went through something, and maybe we should give him a second chance, but I'm probably too human. Well, here's the weird thing. He said, at one point, that he had basically a finished version, his gut of the film sitting on his computer without special effects. Yeah. And that got everybody thinking right. Now, I doubt very much that what we're seeing is still the Snider cut, because this is more like the Snyder Mulligan. Or, you know, it's over, you know, and he went in reshot a ton of stuff. So that means he didn't use just the stuff that was on his Yes, computer. Some of it I thought was very good. Some of it looked like a video game. Oh, like the the effects were bad enough that I was like, Wow, this looks like a video game cutscene. Up, down, up, down. Right Left, right. Yeah, that's really too bad to hear. And I wonder. I don't know, I was nervous about the fact that it's shot for IMAX. And we're all going to watch it on our flat screens that are, you know, not quite 16 by nine aspect ratio to at least two I started watching on HBO and it's a box. Yeah, so Exactly. So it's a box. So I wonder if we're missing a lot of the experience by watching it at home, when it should, if we are going to really give this a second chance should have been seen in the theater. I mean, maybe back in the old days when we had a theater at 20. But everybody's got a 50 inch TV minimum. And it looks fine. Trust me. Okay. All right. Well, that's good to hear. I mean, because that was my big concern was just like, I know that when I saw the Avengers it in the theater. And then when I saw it walking through Costco, on their screens, I felt like one looked a lot stupider than the other. I just wonder if that carries across? Well, I guess we'll find out probably tonight, ideally, and then I couldn't say anything at all. Sit down for four hours and watch this thing. Yeah, we gotta hurry this show up. So I can get back over there. I'm gonna make popcorn. I didn't feel like my attention was drifting during any of the time. But I did think to myself, at the end of it, I was like, they could have cut this down to about two and a half hours. Great movie. So she is I mean, they probably should. I don't know. I saw Justice League on an airplane. So my expectations are at zero. I was like, This movie is kind of funny. And that was the end of it. I have no I have nothing on no hens in the game. What is the saying? I have no. No dogs in the game. No dogs and the dogs in the fight and the fight? Yeah, there we go. I have no I don't care, but I'm excited to watch it because I have nothing else going on in my life. Well, there you go. Well, that's nice. Watch something I did. I did actually watch something otherwise. And I watched the other big thing that everybody will have seen. Hopefully Falcon and Winter Soldier. I could see that legit See that? Yeah. So um, I personally was sort of like, that's fine. I mean, I like it should be fun. I'm excited about that. But I wasn't like, blown away. It hit me sort of like Wanda. Wanda vision did where it's like, okay, I this hopefully this is going somewhere. Yeah, it's like, Okay, cool. Here are some cool action. Right. I think I feel like there's not like the interesting mystery that I was getting from one division. So I think that that's the part where I'm like, we're not even to the second act yet. Because we're still introducing characters and ideas. And there's been no point of no return that's happened yet. So we're still in the setup phase. And I think I just need to know, like, why I'm there. And what, what like, are they obviously they're gonna team up at some point. So like, when is that gonna happen? So just stuff like that, that I'm just not sold yet. That doesn't mean it's not good. It seems good. I just there's no story to me yet. I love to see that you guys loved Wanda right off the bat. And I was like, Man, you guys. This. Also keep in mind, my favorite Marvel movie is the Captain America Winter Soldier. Sure, sir. feels the way that I want a lot of superhero films to feel like, you know, very grounded in real world. And there's these people who can do, you know, extra special things. I like the idea that they're bringing up with this group of people who thought things were better during the Blip. And I think that had to be addressed. Because when you bring back several billion people, that's going to cause huge problems. Yeah. So like that being finally addressed. And I just really like Anthony Mackie as an actor. Yeah. And I don't know there's something very charismatic about him. I can't take my eyes off him. is Anthony Mackie, the guy who plays Winter Soldier or is the Falcon. Yeah, no, he's incredible. And I really I did enjoy. I do like the blimp stuff a lot. I really enjoyed the bit where they had the bank scene where they're trying to get a loan and these like you have no history for the last five years of like, employed There are no ins and outs. And it's like, yeah, no wonder, like, what the fuck? And then he still wants to selfie with them. But are you serious? He really wanted us to hate him. They really wanted us to hate that guy. But yeah, I think it looks like it's going to be good. Yeah, I think it was more just, it started off with such a bang. That opening scene is so freakin cool. Yeah, that was great. And establishing why the Falcon really matters as a hero was great, because bukkit already gotten that. They've gotten that out quite thoroughly. I felt the Falcon although he was through the Avengers, Captain America and the Falcon was one of my favorite comics when I was a kid. So I didn't feel they yet developed him well enough, right, which is what I like about this. Yeah. And not taking up that mantle is really neat. I'm very compelled by that element, for sure. Because it's like, okay, he has to go through some kind of journey to feel like he's worthy of this right? position that's been imparted upon him. And then speaking of taking up the mantle, we know Kurt Russell son is a very handsome dude. But when he walked out in the Captain America uniform, I was like, Who is this old man? That guy was Wyatt Russell. Yeah. Oh, he looks super goofy. Yeah, like, well, they needed to do something else with the fitting of that he looked real bad. Yeah, I was like, Man, you look, this is the thing that's going to inspire the nation. At first, I thought, oh, they're doing this almost like to make us hate him because it looks funny. But then I realized it was Wyatt Russell. And I'm like, wait, that guy's super handsome. But he just didn't get this helmet right for him. Or they just want us to hate this person immediately. Right? squish his face. Yeah, make his make his nose look very odd. Well, I must say part of the reason I did not watch the Justice League movie was I found myself going down a massive Abel Ferrara hole. No, I was I thought I'd seen the driller killer. But I'm like, I'm not sure if I did. Or if I because there's a couple movies called there's driller killer, and there's the driller killer, which is his. I was like, Well, I'm gonna watch it again. See what it's like. And I know I've seen it before. But I'm watch is gone. I have a very, very different view of this film now. And it blew me away. Like, this is deep, dark, nasty New York. Late 70s. About as dark as New York ever gets on screen. And wow. Yeah, oddly naturalistic. Which, as I was looking further, I found out why was that they basically, is doing an interview with him because this was through arrow. So of course, I've got a bunch of extras. So I'm watching an extra. And he's talking about Yeah, we really didn't do scripts. We pretended to write a script, so we could give it to the investors and then we never really used it. Wow. In the last couple of weeks, I watched driller killer, Miss 45 king in New York, and the addiction. And they're all good. Is Ms. 45 one that I will love. I've always thought it might be but it almost seems too sleazy for me. No, no, it's it's, it's not as sleazy as the driller killer. Oh, okay. It's a different kind of sleazy. But you know how most rape revenge movies, her focus really sick in the beginning? Yeah, I spit on your grave and things like that. This has some harsh scenes right at the beginning, and where she goes from it. And what it does to her, and the performance is incredible. And the way she reacts, and the way she gets the way she changes to get vengeance. It's not about the people that attacked her. It's just all men. So Wow. But because her character can't speak. So that adds an interesting element. So yeah, I thought it was it was also one after I started watching, obviously, this one too. Is this is this all on your new arrow streaming channel or something? I don't care in New York might have been on something else, but I'm pretty sure Miss 45 and driller killer were both arrow and the addiction was the last one I watched was probably prime or shutter, because that's a pretty big movie, and we're talking about Lily Taylor at Ed Falco, Christopher Walken. And Christopher Walken has one of those Glengarry Glen Ross scenes like Alec Baldwin, or he's in one scene in the movie, basically, but he owns the frickin screen. And Lily Taylor is astounding. Oh, and her performance is just ridiculous. So is a forgot her name but the lady Miss 45 is crazy. Good and Table actually plays the driller killer that didn't know that weird. Love this addiction is a little more already shot in black and white. It's really violent, which might have been what part of the reason you wonder black and white because even by the other films I watched this like damn, has this line to show you the deepness of it. existence is the search for release from our habit. And our habit is the only release we can find. Like, how nihilistic is held, but as soon as the fault film but yeah, I'm taking New York. Fantastic Film, Christopher Walken. Oh, you're the king. Is the addiction the the vampire one? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I don't think I've seen that either. Yeah, I was surprised. I looked this stuff up. And I thought, oh, check out his movies. He's done that. 50 it's got like 50 direct credits, a lot of music videos are still like, so. Okay, because he's done a lot. Still working. Now. That was my giant rabbit hole a couple weeks at home? Yeah. Uh, well, I found something very cool on Netflix. It just came up. Peter rollick, the writer recommended the Block Island Sound. And it is cool and creepy. It's about a guy who is taking care of his father or something happened to his father, when he was out fishing on his fishing boat. And he hasn't been the same sense. And he's sleepwalking and he's sometimes taking the boat out at night. And then one night, he disappears. And the sun is sure that somebody like attacked him while he was on the boat. So the sun serves doing his own search and investigation. And he goes out on the boat one night, and starts doing the same thing that his dad was doing. So all of he starts sleepwalking and all this stuff, and it feels very, it's got some, like lovecraftian elements, but it's not the it's not the small town by the sea part. It's the kind of cosmic horror of it all. And I really, I really liked it. And I really loved the ending. Nice. So the Block Island Sound sounds awesome. But also, if it's aliens, I don't think I can do it. I would destroy me and I'd never sleep again. What if I actually take a boat out and then I end up becoming abducted. And then I do it every night, because that's the call that they have, for me their siren song. I'm sure that's not the plot. But anyway. So um, you know, like, I've seen a couple things, nothing crazy exciting to talk about. But something that I did do, which was pretty interesting. A friend of mine messaged me a couple months ago and was like, hey, so I just finished this game. And I have a free pass for somebody to play the second time with me. And it's one of those kind of narration games where you try to like make decisions and you think you're making the right one, but you're probably just gonna kill everybody involved. So it's a horror game. It's part of something called the dark pictures, which have led to a series of little games, little stories, and this one is called little hope, and is starring Will Poulter, which you guys might remember from midsommar. He's like that irritating. Kind of Camaro that down. I know, I know, irritating for that movie. Anybody? Um, he's kind of good. Oh, God, I can't even describe from the original pack like her boyfriend. One of our boyfriends, boyfriends friends. Yeah, yeah. That narrows it down because they were all annoying. Yes. I'm not a smart one. But I don't know if he was a druggie one. There are a lot of annoying irritating guys. Yeah. But no, it was a super fun, creepy, interesting game with a couple of badly written characters that I was like, Oh, no, because you're switching between playing different characters and try not to get them killed. And I got everyone killed except for one person by the end. So that was awesome. How do you play it? What are you playing? So I was playing on PlayStation four, I believe it's available for a few platforms. But um, the way that I played it is you kind of link up with your other friends accounts. And then each of you takes a character and you're kind of going through interactions. So they do a lot of these cutscenes where it's like okay, the bus crashes. Now you have some people talking about who they are, why they're there, what's up with the bus and then it shows you three different options of things to say, and you kind of selected but on your friends line. all they see is this person looking kind of dumb off into the distance and then turning and going. I have an idea how about we do blank. You have your headphone hooked up into your controller so I could hear my friend just kind of laughing at me. Like, you look so stupid, right? And vice versa. But it's it's really fun because then you're switching between different characters and your decisions are affecting them and theirs are affecting yours. So it was just a really interesting narrative experience as far as like horror games go, that sounds cool. Yeah, it was the name again. It's called the little hope takes place across three different time periods. It has to do with kind of the Salem Witch Trials meets the 1970s meets current era. So yeah, bus drives into some fog has an issue it pops up. on his head pops up little girl pops up a creepy little girl pops up and they have to be rerouted to a town called little hope of which there are strange things occurred a wonderful town to live in. Where do you live? little hope? Yes, definitely got a mindset or an actual play. Spoiler alert. It's interesting. You had mentioned video games, because the other one I was going to talk about was a documentary watched on a paramount plus console wars. Oh, which is the story of Nintendo versus Sega? Oh, sure. I remember those days. It's really good. bizarrely interesting. Yeah. Because it was almost like you had a personality type. Like if you were a Sega kid, you were like, an edgy cool, or you want it to be or you want it to be different, not of the norm. But if you're an LDS kid, then it's like you're kind of part of this underground site guys that's occurring. Well, they were. They looked at Nintendo. What Sega did is they looked at Nintendo and said, we're gonna make them look like they're for your little brother. Yeah. Well, Sega is for you know, you. My older brother has the Sega. Absolutely. Oh, my God. Yeah. And it did have a really short it felt like forever because I was a kid. But it did have a short life time because I think we ended up with like eight games where it felt like a lot at the time. Well, you know, they're still around and that Sonic still a character and all the stuff there but you don't buy a Sega console anymore. Wow. PlayStation or Xbox is about it. When does it end? Like what era? does it stop? Kind of the story? I think it's almost all in the 90s except for like, now pre talk where they talked about Nintendo coming up and then. So it's a it basically covers that rise and fall. And what happened in tendo. At that point, that sounds amazing. I definitely watch that. That does sound cool. Okay, guys, how about we take a break, but just before we do that, I want to remind everybody if you're listening on release day, which is Thursday, tomorrow is the premiere of invincible on Amazon. Oh, that's right. Holy shit. I forgot about that. Oh, yeah. I don't think I even know what this is. invincible. The comic book is now an animated series coming on prime the first three episodes release on Friday. Oh, cool. That's awesome. Yes. Thank you for catching me up. So let's take a break and then we are coming back. We are talking. Vanessa, this was your topic. Spring has sprung three has sprung and the birds are calling the blossoms are falling upon the ground. So yes, cherry blossoms. strong men Brian. Too strong showed up with Irish spring. dealer is the very one to give a strong man fresh milk in these green and white stripes on two deodorants to get a man fresh and clean. With a fine press. That's why I use it to Irish sprayed with a strong man. We are back. Vanessa, this is your topic. Why don't you start us off? Absolutely. So um, you guys might even be a little surprised that my pick this week. Spring is coming. I was really excited about the idea of having a talk about spring related content. films that might have some kind of theme around spring or rebirth or spring break or something like that. So long as it gives you that spring feel. So I went with the movie. Go figure 2014 spring Look man, you need to change up your environment for the most attractive person I've ever seen. Go out with me tomorrow. No, no, no, no, no. Do you remember my name never told. excuse. Learning love done this Sano del GLA del mundo de nada French timbers. Louisiana's Italian girl is really pretty, so I only get to see you Tonight, our nights together. The Secret jokes are kind of weird sometimes. And I found something that gives me some doubt. But really from around here, I'm half undiscovered signs of confusing biochemistry, and some crazy hormones probably lie a lot. I've actually never lied to you. Even I'm straight. So myself. I have a medical condition that comes and goes, and it's a very long story. I gotta make sure you're the kind of crazy I can deal with Italian women. In my life, I don't think you're ready for where this is going. comes around a couple of times, if you're lucky. Life probably seems short no matter what. A fine film. Yeah, I don't know. It's tricky. Because I know what you think of one or the other. Well, I was I was definitely, you know, kind of almost undecided on unless I kind of swung back and forth on that guy. synchronic obviously, I did not enjoy I like parts of it just there's some parts I hate parts and love and parts I hate. So it was spring, I was like, you know, this is supposed to be one of their best ones. It's definitely one of the earliest ones and I would just, I should check this out. And I've been meaning to watch it for years. So I'm just to hop right in Rotten Tomatoes for this foam has it at 85% for critics and 71%. For audience. The budget or sorry, the budget is unknown. I could not for the life of me find the budget for the saying but box office brought in $49,000 970. So I guess 50 from what I've heard, they might have made a profit. I don't think I don't think it's their first one. Their first this one. They did use a drone. They did fly to Italy, they did get a couple of known names. And I don't mean like, like no no names, but people who have acted in things that were recognizable enough. So they probably lost at least during having their theater run. But I think they probably made it up in the back end because they are distributed through Alamo Drafthouse Films. So, yeah, yeah, so they got a really good deal out there. The director slash writer for this is Justin Benson, who has nine projects for directing under his belt, including some short projects as low as well as VHS, viral bones, dorm, spring, endless synchronic. He did a little bit of Twilight Zone. And of course, the upcoming Monday, which is something we've talked about before. His co director Aaron Morehead has 11 director credits, most of the same stuff is Justin with but with a few more shorts thrown in there, definitely a team. But he also has 27 cinematographer credits, which I thought was pretty interesting. So he was also the cinematographer on synchronic. And last spring, and lots and lots and lots of shorts. So he's probably the one who's got some really good eye for different ideas of like, you know, how to the camera about how to try different things, has taken up the reins on that for a couple of projects, the cast, there's a lot of like randos and this good, I'm just gonna say the two means. So Evan is our our lead played by Lou Taylor, who poussey spend in 47 things including the 2019 American Horror Story, who's in you, the I believe that's the show on Netflix, Evil Dead, was kind of his big one. And then he's done lots and lots and lots of TV small roles. The female lead in this is Nadia hilker, who plays the character of Louise, the beautiful Italian girl who is funny because she's actually German, well known is German actress. However, she was also in 48 episodes, walking dead as magnet, seven episodes of the 100 and a fair amount of German film and TV work of which I could not tell you what is popular or not popular. No nothing of it. So the plot is pretty interesting. It has a couple of moments where I feel like it's ways between genres. I'm not 100% sure I love but I also do not dislike. So we start off and this really sucks. Dark Stark moment of Evan with his mother who's essentially on her last breaths. In those breaths, she gives this sort of really funny sad joke about people at funerals, I think and then she just dies. And he's like, it's so sad. And then you're like, Ah, okay, is it that kind of fella has a real like beginning to midsummer feel where you're like, Oh, this is fucking rough. And then he after the funeral, he goes drinking with a friend. And it kind of becomes a sort of like, I don't know off the cuff buddy comedy for a beat. Or like, you know, he's got some really good witty dialogue going with his buddy, but then ends up in this fight with this random guy gets kicked out slash then fired, because apparently he works at that same bar. And then that night, he gets a hot girl slash who's his friend to come over to have sex with him. And then I don't think she does. It's a little unclear as to what goes on. But it's supposed to be kind of funny, I think in parts of it are but parts of it. I was like, ah, I don't know where this is going. Then it actually goes somewhere. So next day, he wakes up, she's gone. She's not in his bed anymore. And a cop is walking past the window. And he realizes that they're after him, the guy who he beat up in the bar, even though he deserved it has obviously filed some kind of charges or put out a complaint on him. So he gets in a rideshare and makes his way to the airport to which he looks at his rideshare companion goes, where would you go? And they're like, I don't know. And there's this really nice reveal where you don't realize that he's in the car with somebody. So it was really lovely. And his father and him were always supposed to take a trip to Italy and had never quite done it. So he decides to go ahead and go to Italy. We then get the kind of follow up buddy scene with some some guys in a hostel. Some British dudes who try to hit on some chicks and do some weed and there do funny knowing guys. So we spend a little more time in that world and that's fine. And they go down south they they tell him Hey, do you want to take a car with us down south to the, you know, different part of Italy? This kind of coastal neat little coastal town? He goes, Yeah, why not? And when he's there, when the first places he goes to he sees this gorgeous girl at the bar, who he's getting drinks for his friends and kind of says hi to her and has noticed her and she's like, okay, you want to come have sex with me? He's like, Oh, I mean, I've got these drinks from my, my buddies there. And she's like, well, it's never never. He's like, how would I take you out on a date tomorrow? And she's like, No, he's like, but but could we? But I mean, and she's like, Are you gay? Do you want to like sleep with those guys instead. And all of a sudden, this really witty, lovely kind of connection is occurring between these two characters. These two actors have such a good just have such great chemistry. They bounce off each other so nicely, and their dialogue just feels extremely fluid. They their personalities lineup, you completely believe them as far as just like working off each other for these ridiculous lines and statements and jokes. But yeah, she turns him down. And then he decides he's going to stay in this town and try to move her. He gets a job at a little farm, doing things not quite sure what those things are. But it seems like stuff that's hard for him to figure out how to do. And he tries to pursue her and it's very, very tiny little seaside town. And he manages to get in a date with her and they're just getting along so perfectly. But she keeps kind of reiterating. This is casual. This isn't something for real. I'm not I don't really date guys. She's a super smart, clever scientists woman who clearly is above his station, at least as far as hearts go. Regardless, he finds himself falling in love with her. And it seems like maybe she loves him too. But then I know where she breaks it off with him. And this is very confusing to him because he's basically like moved to this weird Southern Italian town gotten a job. They hang out all their spare time together. They clearly enjoy each other's company. They've been going to museums, doing all that kind of europese stuff. And it just doesn't make a lot of sense. The only thing that we do know is that she is being a little suspicious. And there are things like he found a needle in her bathroom and he's like, Is she a drug addict? And he asks her and she says, No, no, no, it's, I have a thing. I have this thing. Don't worry about it. It's fine. I'm on top of it. So he gets very, very drunk. See some cops is worried that I guess they're after him from the Small Town he lives in like Philly or whatever. Like, throws himself into her apartment extremely drunk, gets in stands in the doorway and sees this monstrous like octopus creature on the ground writhing around. And next to it is a needle. And he puts it together that this strange beast is actually her, sticks her with it, she becomes the beautiful Italian woman that she was moments ago. And they talk it out. So what's going on with her. So she has this condition, it's mythical levels of, you know, almost like little mermaid style. She's kind of got this almost curse. And every 20 years, I believe, she has to mate with somebody and get a new set of DNA. And then she takes that DNA and becomes like kind of a new person. And this way, she lives forever. She's actually over 2000 years old. And in fact, some of the paintings that they've seen in a local museum are just of her. Now, she, it's really interesting, because while this seems to be almost like a mythical curse, she's a woman of science. And so she is of the deep belief and understanding that there's a reason for it. And she's getting to the bottom of it, it has something to do with genetics, she's worked out her own gene sequencing, she totally, you know, is on top of it with these shots. But the thing is, it just happens to work a little bit better. She does something like say, kill and eat the annoying American guy whose walk through town, not him, but a different dude, or a live rabbit, or perhaps just any other living creature that she can just turn up eat raw. Now she's a vegetarian. So that makes it extra complicated. And she has a lot of guilt over it. She has 24 hours until she's gonna turn again, because shockingly, they had unprotected sex. So she has his DNA. She's slowly losing the ability to control her monster monstrous ism monstrosity, and keeps accidently trying to eat him. If she's not using her like needles. But he wanted to he wants to do one of those final like before sunrise before sunset style evenings of let's just spend these last 24 hours together and just walk the streets of Italy and enjoy each other's company. And, and maybe and she's like, okay, but when I turn you gotta go. And he's like, yeah, yeah, we'll see. And so she takes them to her hometown, where he learns a lot more about the past her past her family's past and the myth behind it. And it turns out that her mother made a decision somewhere along the way, not to turn, so maybe there's something that she can do about it. And she reveals that it's not that she chose it's that she was in love. And when you're in love, then this thing doesn't work. So of course, it becomes even more like little mermaid. It's like, Oh, my God, but if you're in love, and everything will work out so beautifully. I won't spoil the ending, the sun rises, and she may or may not turn into something, and he or she may or may not become human and decided to have his child who knows. That's the great mystery. But this film, man, it was really engaging. And it was very unique. And I liked a lot about it. First of all, unlike synchronic, I know where things are, I know what location I was in at all times who was in the room and most likely usually why they were there. It was very thrilling. I understood the relationships of people. It was great to guess that you were saying that guys a cinematographer, right. Yes, the same cinematographer. I don't know what happened. But I do know that this was one of the early uses of drone technology. So they actually went ahead and got a drone. And actually, I'll get more into that in a second here. But they did try some really interesting, unique cinematography, tricks that had not yet been used or tried. And maybe that lends to them thinking a little bit more about the shots ahead of time then in some chronic, I don't know, I have no idea. I don't know what it is that made it so different for me. But it felt it felt more thought through. That being said, it also almost felt like this had a bit of improv. It just felt so off the cuff and natural. I tried very, very, very hard to find out whether or not it was improv, like if they did a Blair Witch and they just got little note cards and we're like, talk about these things. But out of all the interviews I read nothing talked about it in stupidly, both on Wikipedia and on IMDB, the trivia sections are super sparse for this movie. I don't know why it's an indie darling. It's done extremely well. I don't know why you can't find anything aside from like these goofy dudes talking about like, why spring is interesting. And by the way, one of them has never fallen in love. So I don't know why he's writing this shit. But anyway that's okay. The The details on this. Like I said, there's just really good little setups and payoffs. Like at one point, we see him walking through an alley and we hear this cat like screaming in the distance. And then the next day, we see that that cat's dead. And we realized that she down the road, we realize she's the one who ate it. So there's just these nice little setups, there's a rabbit that she has in a cage in her room that two rabbits actually and she talks about how you know, she rescued them from a lab and whatever. And of course, we're like, oh my god, she's gonna end up eating them. And later, we see a dead rabbit in the street. And he's like, Huh, I wonder if this is perhaps the rabbit. There's just a lot of thought that went into it. Um, the monster for the most part is pretty fucking freaky. It's very, it's not consistent. It seems to change shape and idea, a fair amount. But it's almost got this horror lovecraftian strangeness to it. Like, I do believe this idea that it's working out her DNA, what is supposed to be and how it's evolving. I like the use of her strong belief in science over mysticism. I think that gives it a whole new interesting level. And it's about love. Doesn't that doesn't that doesn't kind of fall apart, though. She's so science based. And yet, here's this thing that's, you know, unless you have this specific emotion, yeah, that can't be measured in any way. And none of that took you out. I think. I think what I found interesting is that he was team emotion, and she was team science. And because that of that dynamic where he was like, but you just have to be in love, like don't having to ever felt love. And she was like, No, no, no, no, I think it's her way of trying to manage her situation. I think it makes a lot of sense that if you had some horrible thing going on, if you were afflicted with some illness, or what some people just like to pull out textbooks and go, I'm gonna figure this shit out. I'm in control, I can work out my own. I am in charge of the agency over my body. And I think that's what she's doing. And in the end, you know, we have this The thing I didn't like, which was cute, but annoying, is he's like, But aren't you in love now, though? I've done these things for you. What have you think about these moments we've shared together? Are we in love now, though? Like, it's really desperate and sad. But I do like this whole like dichotomy they've got there. So it didn't really fall apart for me in that sense. I do think they didn't need to try to explain as much of the science as they did, or even anyway, that it was love that to that is that we could have put that together. I think you're right. I actually think you're super right on that. Also some of the CGI even though it's fun, some of its just piss poor. Like real bad. There's some moments where I'm like, that's not a Wait, what a waste does guys like it's like the size of a pencil in the top half is like big and the bottom half is big. I'm like they were just break off in the middle at that point. I'm sorry, this is no longer reasonable, like just geometry. Um, yeah, I don't know. And I do think that some of those scenes with the buddy stuff didn't necessarily need to be there. Those opening three scenes. I'm not mad about it, but it felt like a little off. Like it just wasn't the right ramping into the film that I got. And I liked the film I got. Yeah. So overall, I think I think I really liked it. Um, the fun trivia that I picked up, there's only two pieces that exist on IMDB was so let me read this one out for you. Director Justin Benson on the aerial drone photography said we had a very meticulous shortlist and had a well thought out approach to the photography of the movie. And after all that was done our first AC slash steadycam operator, William Tanner, Samson came to us and said, hey, I've got this new new drone I bought, should I just bring it for the production? Maybe we could use it. We knew immediately how that would fit into our general approach the photography of the movie, the photographer photography should feel like an omniscient presence. In the movie, it should feel very subjective, almost like a third all powerful character. So we'll came out with the drone and after getting arrested with it at the Moscow airport, because they were thinking it was some kind of piece of military equipment, and he was going to assault Russia with it. We got to use it. And any day the crew was off. co director cinematographer Aaron Morehead and I would continue to shoot on Sundays in Italy, we'd continue shooting and that was when we do the drone photography with we'll just grab as many shots as we could experiment, experiment with it, see how it would work, and almost everything we shot with the drone made it into the Edit. It's one of those talking points of the movie. It's pretty cool. It's one of those things where one day because a lot of people have started using that And someday, people are going to look at our movie and be like, why did Morehead and Benson use a fucking toy helicopter over in this thing over and over and over again? So um, yeah, I think that that I don't know, I feel like they put a little bit more thought into it, which is, which is kind of neat. So I remember when I saw this, that that drone shot that's above Italy. I was like, holy shit, the production value on this just skyrocketed, right. And it was just something that I had never seen in an indie film. So yeah, it's super common everywhere. Yeah, I mean, like, people. I've seen enough drone photography of Anderson island where I live where some old guy bought a drone and was like, I'm gonna get the like today. And I'm like, Wow, that looks amazing. And it's really weird. Indie movies where it's, oh, look, the cars driving and suddenly the cars getting smaller, smaller is badass. Yeah, totally. Totally. So now that you've seen all the rest, you're gonna now watch their first show, which was their first one? The the one with the two guys in the cabin with to this last? Yeah, last time, we did do retribution. Oh, maybe? I don't know. I don't see why not like I'm not opposed to seeing more of their stuff. And I and I do want to rewatch endless because I've heard that they're all tied in together. And a lot of these characters pop back up and tell those scenes and doesn't endless how the guys from back to or some of their first film. No. Oh, yeah. Endless does. Yeah. Yeah. But in a very minor way. Yeah. I think I remember that scene from endless, like, endless a lot. Except, you know, at the very end, there's this just piece of shit, if special effects that, like you guys couldn't drop another 10 grand on that. Make this worth looking at resolution? resolution? Yeah. I mean, I don't I don't see why not. I mean, it's nice because I had this as an excuse to watch this film. So I've been wanting to see it for a long time. Anyway. Um, yeah, I don't know. Maybe So would it be a more head? Or a Benson averse? Oh, Benson head for a head Hudson for Ben verse. All right, so who's up next? I'm gonna go next year. Okay, I will dive in with a different take on spring 2016 prevention. I'm really sorry about your loss and it's been very difficult for you. At the end of the day. Nature now inside you. Baby knows what to do. Baby will tell you. This is nature's way. Think nature's a bit of an ass though. Don't you? Mind Control. I was scared of guys. I'm on the dark side. You would not believe what I've been doing recently. If I could talk to you about child charity insane. I am a working mother. These days are very spoiled but mommy a lot of PlayStation mommy want you to kill that man? little bag negativities not good for the baby. Oh, I'm excited to hear about this. I've been wanting to watch it. Well, it's on shutter sure does easy to see right now. It's Rotten Tomatoes scores interesting. The critics 91 the crowd 54 the budget was 80,000 What is it Gpb Great British pounds. Which 110,000 us there but their box office was 103,000 which was very weird. IMDb listed it that way. The budget was pretty proud. But the box office was like Okay, so is it just The US release you need to convert that bounces. like half. There you go. So it's directed by Alice Lowe, which is this is her first feature. She also writer of a couple other things, beehive and life spam. My child is French do what that means, but it sounds interesting. But she's actually a fairly accomplished actress. She's done a lot of acting. She's in black mirror, horrible stories, fairly decent resume. And also starting the film with Damn, she's the lead as well. So she's director, writer, and lead. Dan written Skinner who was in high rise, the Tracey Ullman Show. And Joe Hartley is in in my skin. And this is England, which I won't see in the first stuff. But when I heard what it was the rest some really interesting. Yeah, it's a series of films where they should they do a documentary about them as kids are sort of moving and then they go back and revisit what every 10 years Yeah, something like that. But but they shoot it. I don't think they shoot it every 10 years. I think they shot it every couple years, but shows like 10 years later. Yeah. So yeah, I think they started in this at god it was Yeah, that was upsetting program to watch. I watch the first one. So it was you know, interesting. Yes. But yes. So LSP plays a widow named Ruth, seven months pregnant, and believe she is being guided to kill people by her unborn baby. Yeah, dude. She'll so she heads off on earth homicidal rampage that basically the beginning of the film is like, Oh, I guess that's what we're doing. Because she goes into like saying she wants to buy her kid a, like an exotic pet or something. And the guy shows her maybe a transfer stump then she stabbed him. Okay. The as the movie goes on, you figure out what she's her revenge is actually motivated. Her husband was killed in a climbing accident where the lead person had to cut the line. So everybody lived, but him. That's not true. We'd have minimized his death. So she's got her baby's first notebook that she reads out of which is filled with kind of horrifying things, bad drawings and creepy sayings. I kind of write. So that's her writing on the buses doing her baby's first notebook. And the her neighbors were involved in killing and they they enjoy abusing their headboard, shall we say? Loud ways. Father's very nice. And then the baby speaks for the first time and it's actually pretty creepy. It's a nice, weird kid baby sounding voice but that also sounds kind of surreal. So it works. Well. She's it does it speak while it's still in her? Yes. Yes. She's seven months pregnant communicating with her baby. Well, it can be a baby's talking to her at least. Oh, and she's watching. She keeps watching a show on called crimes with passion from 1934 blackdog. Right. So she goes to the nurse and the nurses a pain in the ass. Not real, helpful, not real nice, terrible bedside manner, which continues to sort of sort of accept what's going on with the kid. She's not really fighting it too much. Kind of hooks up with a guy who they end up communicating for a while sort of like our so long talking scene. He's sort of an in cell type. And he throws up and then they kiss and kiss grows a little bit. His mom walks out of her room. Oh my god. And so she decides to move on from this guy and stabs him and kills. Sure. And then talks to the mom for a while. It's like Oh, right. Okay, and the baby is not sweet because the baby says it's bitter. So it's weird. heads out onto a job interview that does not go well. And ends up in slowly it ends up insulting her in very strange ways. And of course, a knife comes into play again. One thing that hurt the movie sort of a little bit was she does some of that. Stallone or action hero quips after she kills people at times. Probably don't need that. And the nurse she when she visits the nurse again starts hitting well maybe we should talk to social services. she flips back to take my baby from a no. So she keeps trying to blame the kid for wanting to do that but it's becoming fairly obvious that that is not what's going on. Nice little line moment in the movie where she's trying to trick this Lady to let her into the house, one of the women that was on the hiking and she asks, well, you know, do you have a toilet? I can use like some. You know, I have a toilet. You know, that's an interesting thing. I don't think I've ever heard anybody say movie before when somebody asks them at their front door of their house. Do you have a bathroom? Yeah, of course I do. I don't know even with this notice she put on Boxing boxing gloves? Sure, why not? But then I'll pray cuz she goes to a club, or a workout place does a yoga class and there you actually see a lot more depth of the detail of why she's upset with her husband and this kind of well done. Oh, this was almost a really good movie. Really? Yeah, she does some Halloween stuff. And the the deaths are well motivated. You know, the reason she's killing people is not random. And it's not weird. And I was sort of, I'm kind of debating even talking about this one. Because it's like, okay, it's good, but it's not great. And then I read a little bit more about how it was made. As guy Holy shit. One of the big ones she was eight months pregnant during the entire duration of the film of the filming. Wow. As like, okay, that's impressive. But what's even on par impressive. The film took 11 days. Whoa, eight days of shooting and three days of pickups. Whoa, I was like, holy crap. Eight months pregnant, and you're working at that thing. You're the director, you're the lead. And she's in, for sure. She's in every seat. Wow. Just like, that's, that's impressive. That is a lot of work. And she thought of the premise of the movie while she was pregnant. So she was eight months pregnant thought of putting this movie because nobody was hiring her to do any acting. So she's like, you know what, screw it, I'm gonna write my own movie come up my own thing, and raised enough money 200 and some odd $1,000 to shoot that film in under eight months, shot it in 11 days. And finished it very shortly after that finished it. Timing well enough that she could use her own child after being born to be the child in the movie. Oh my God. That poor kid back on this field, like what the fuck is up with my mom. So that's sort of what got me going. It's so like, we were talking about resolution a little earlier where those guys had like no money. And what they put together I thought was really impressive. So no resolutions not a perfect movie, either. It's got a lot of problems, but factor in the making of it with the film they ended up with. And I think it's really impressive. Provenge has some problems. But that's probably because they shot in, you know, 11 days, I think if they'd had, oh, I don't know, another week, they might have pulled off a part of what hurts the film is a lot of it feels rushed. You know, it feels like what I thought was maybe kind of clumsy camerawork or maybe not great shot at setup was because they they had no time. So they shot shot and did what they got and got what they were able to shoot. And that was the film that factored in, I go, Hey, somebody should give this woman a budget and say, Hey, why don't you work for 30 days, see what you can come up with? Because the writing was a little. Okay. And the direct but the directing for an 11 day shoot was pretty damn good. has she done anything senses, not directing wise? about some shorts, no features. But she's done more acting. I think she's seen as more focused on acting still than she does. doing that. I think we've spoken about this before I wanted this to be funnier. Yeah. That would have helped it. Yeah. It's kind of advertised as a comedy. Yes. And there are some funny moments. Yes. But that's sort of like a drama that has a couple comedy scenes. But I wish I had known about the 11 day shoot while I was watching it, I would have cut it a lot of slack. So that was mine one on there. As you can say I went a little short. Because it's a fairly straightforward thing and it didn't grab me enough to really dig in while I'm watching it. My impression with it came after I was researching it after I'd watched it. And again, like you said, I think if I'd known it was 11 day shoot, I would have watched it with a different I mean, it's good. It's easy to find it's all over the place. I wrote down shutter but if you look it up, it's tons of places it did incredibly well on its festival run. Yeah, play it all the big festivals. Yeah, I remember like definitely hearing it kicking around and I don't know now that you've described it, I'm sure Understand the hesitation Wow. Mind is also going to be short because it is also very straightforward. I went very literal with your spring topic and chose spring break with the movie. There's nothing out there it's a house in the woods with four bedrooms applied and nobody else for miles around any places Grace was the bedrooms take a nice stroll down that dirt path into the woods late tonight all by myself. Afterwards I go skinny dipping in the pond. There is something out there don't forget I have rented out every single horror film a video David's driving. About your stomach when you least expect it. There's nothing there's nothing. Did you hear something? Oh, I know. I heard something. in the other room melting right? accepted like everyone else. It's a mouthful shaving cream. You're saying we're in a movie. Controls mind the people reproduces itself in origin. Death with a slimy mutation is nothing versus a fun vacation. We have to go on now. 20 year old filmmaker route. I believe we've all seen this one, right. Yeah. This was the first time viewing for me, sir. This was a blast. I will say that. The budget$350,000 the box office I could find no numbers for no Rotten Tomatoes critics but the audience has it at 63%. This is a trauma film. I thought surely because I got it from vinegar. I think it's a trauma. I don't think it's a trauma. Is it Trump produced her trauma bought it. And then we'll get into it was written and directed by Rolf cholesky. Eric, do you remember when we hung out with Ralph at a very strange film festival? Oh, right. Yes. Yeah, he's a funny guy. He was he was interesting. Yeah, he's an interesting guy is probably a better word for him. And like three other films were showing at the Santa Monica Public Library thing. Oh my god, I believe the entire audience was cast and crew of of the film's friends and family. And Ralph was there and for his movie nightmare man. And so Tiffany Shep is such an honor but I have a feeling that she thought maybe it was going to be something different because she's probably used to a few more people at these kind of things. But because of that we all just hung around and talked and drank and it was a lot of fun. Ralph has done movies such as Jacqueline Hyde. Nightmare, man, and just recently pool boy nightmare, which is a hallmark. Oh, scary movie. You know, they're scary. And wow. Oh, a sexy thriller. Wow. Okay. But Ralph has like 115 credits. That guy just been working. You know, since he was 20, basically, which is when he shot us. It stars Craig back Wendy Banaras. And Mark Culver. Normally what I say it stars this I tell you what are the things they've been but there's no reason for this because you've heard of none of them. They were all short films prior to this. Okay. All shot by Ralph. A couple of them were Yeah. So. So let me just say that this is a very low budget looking movie. 99 One $350,000 couldn't get you much because you would have had to pay for your cameras, you didn't have iPhones, you didn't have all the stuff that we have available now, so that $350,000 went to securing your film, and all of that shit. When you take that into account, you can see all $350,000 on the screen. Nice. It starts with a young woman in a video store, who is a kind of weird looking dude comes in and starts walking past all the horror films and everything. And then he he drops a video on the counter and she goes to ring it up, and he's nowhere to be seen. And then of course, he kind of leaps out at her and starts stalking her through the video store. And she ends up getting caught up in videotape and hung by the videotape. But I mean, that's a fantastic cold open, but it's a dream sequence. This same girl wakes up suddenly, and this is what's so great about this dream sequence, she's driving. She's driving down the road, and she really wakes up but it's shot in a way that you think it's the typical, you know, she's she's waking up from a nightmare, and she is but that it pulls back to see the stairwell. And then she goes off the road and it's a dream. So I was like, Oh, this is pretty clever. I mean, it's it's listed as a horror comedy. And it's a trauma film. So you know, you're, you're gonna get whatever you're gonna get. And she lives through the crashing into the tree. And she's sitting there, you know, thinking, Oh, my dad's gonna kill me and all this stuff when this tentacle thing comes in slaps against her window, and she starts screaming because there's some kind of, there's something out there. And then we cut to our main group of characters or a bunch of friends, five friends, of course, to couples to attractive women to attractive men. And they're one tagalong nerdy buddy who happens to be a horror film nerd and equates everything in life to horror films. So that's kind of fun. And it's it's really fun, because he's basically, Jamie, what's his name and screen screen? Yeah, only eight years earlier. He's saying, you know, wait a second, you guys all want to go and spend the weekend up at a cabin in the woods. Don't you know what happened? slashers all of this stuff, and they all all quit being such a weirdo. It's lucky this is a comedy because if you actually had a friend like this, the first thing you do is ditch him. And you certainly would not invite him along to your couples even if you're in high school, so for example, they get up to the house and and there's there's all these warning signs that he's seeing basically, the the way the road is shaped is enough to bother him. The fact that you know, there's so far out in the middle of nowhere that nobody could hear anybody scream and all that. But one of the better ones is they go into the house, and the movie cuts to a different set of movie punks, as I like to call them pulling up in a minivan, a very hodgepodge group. One of them has spiky hair one's clearly a goth. Although the other one is hardcore punk, and all of these people are all hanging out together and they pull up to the other side of the lake, they stripped down and decided to go skinny dipping. And when I say Lake, this is really just a large pond. Just kind of sit on the edge of it. And they're splashing around naked in the water and, and the guy who owns the ER has folks on the cabin. He walks out on the deck with the with the nerdy kid, Mike, and he's like, Hey, excuse me. What are you doing? What were skinny dipping? He's like, Yeah, Yeah, I know. What are you doing here? Isn't this the house on? Isn't this the Yeah, isn't this the house on the lake? And he goes, No, this is the cabin on the pond. And I like oh, okay, sorry. And so they gather up their stuff and take off. Mike is like, what are you doing? I mean, clearly, this is fodder for the serial killer. We want them Here's what's coming for us gets distracted by that. So this is the kind of humor you're dealing with in this movie is very silly. The movies called there's nothing out there. But there is something out there we said in the opening scene and it is a very, very bad looking alien puppet had special effects from its eyes and it slowly starts taking everyone out and this thing is is the perfect Movie monster because it can do everything. If it hits you with its very bad green laser eyes, it can then control your mind. But it's also trying to impregnate you. So. So there's all of this stuff going on with the alien taking people out one by one. with Mike being the only one who knows what to do. There's really not much more to this. the reveal of the alien, when you actually see it in the light is so much worse than I thought it was going to be based on the cover that I saw there. And I was like, Oh, I'm a little disappointed because the cover was clearly done by trauma. And they use the different monster on it, which was much better looking. Oh, by. So that was sad for me. The acting was so so and, but everything was put together very well and very competently and even more. So when you think about this. I do have a little bit of trivia. I will say this movie 100% entertaining, and a very, very clever ending that I did not see coming. Oh, nice. So Ralph made this when he was 20 years old. He wrote the screenplay in five days when he was a senior in high school. His folks put a mortgage on their house to raise the budget. Oh my god. So that's a lot of faith in your kid. That's some loving parents. Yeah, I needed those parents. Parents don't even tell you this. My parents when I graduated, let me know. I lived up in Bellingham, Washington, they let me know that they were moving to Hawaii. Wow. And I was like, oh, what am I gonna do? And my mom said, Yeah. Wow. Right. So that's when I decided to move to LA to be a screenwriter. Wow. So one of the things I did love about this, because it was such a low budget film, the cash, the cast shot almost the entire movie on VHS video as a rehearsal. And then once they nailed it down, nailed the angles down and everything, they recreated it on film. And with that, kind of with that kind of stuff going on, it's really kind of amazing. We all know how hard it is to make any kind of movie much less a good movie. And when when something like this comes along, and you see that it is all charm. And basically by the willpower of one kid who had you know his parents saying we believe in you. It's like, what shit this is kind of amazing. Yeah. Now Ralston go on to make many other films you've heard of, but he's gone on to make a ton of other films. And He even wrote the screenplay for blonde and blonder. If you remember that. Don't that's okay. It was the female version of Dumb and Dumber. And it had. I can't remember who it was a couple of hot blondes that we all know. I'm sure. It was 2006, sir. So this is just a fun movie. kind of amazing. Very hard to find. So how to now right yeah, that's right. Keep your mouth shut. properly, probably available on YouTube. I think I Vinegar Vinegar syndrome version. And it's got like a cool interesting cover. did see it on YouTube. Maybe? Um, yeah. And the cool thing is if you can get a copy of the actual film, but the extras and stuff they actually show like the footage that they had shot for the behind the scenes, like not fine This is but here's all the rehearsal footage. And it's really cute because it's like the guy who's you know, the kid whose phone it is. And he's got his like, brothers standing in shots. He's like, yeah, okay, run over there. And his brothers like. He's like, okay, pretend you're a hot chick now. And he's like, Oh, you're so bad. It's so good. That's hilarious. I will say this. I'll just find this by saying it happens over spring break. Now. There is a ton of sex. And there's even new life as this creature tries to impregnate a shoe with its spawn. Oh, so that's my movie. I loved that movie. And I think that part of the charm was just watching that creature try so hard, and just be so discouraged when things went wrong. And it's like, no, I got a break in this window. What are you doing not like shuffled around to like the doggie door or whatever. There's there is a lot of humor in this. And I think that if I had seen this when I was 20, and Ralph is our age, so we would have been the same age. When the movie came out, I think that I would have just been busting a gut over the sheer audacity of of making a movie this silly and then getting it destroyed. destroyed. distributed. distributed. Yes. Awesome. So yeah, I loved it. I, like I said, whenever you guys pick a topic, I'm like, Well, I'm going to research these words and stuff. And this came up. And there were a lot of a lot of reviews on IMDB. It's kind of like a 6.2 on IMDB. Every film has a 6.2 It seems unless the film is really shitty. Yeah. And I was like, could this trauma film be good? And there were a review after review saying how much they loved it and then every once in a while, this is the worst piece of shit I've ever seen the people who are saying they love it are obviously idiots. And then another person 10 stars. The person who's saying is the worst film she's ever seen doesn't realize at all what this film is, and it really is just one of the bad reviews was tries to be meta like scream fails. There you go. Timing every church the date here. Yeah, but I'm always amazed by the people that say worst film ever is I first thought is how many movies are you seeing total is obviously it ain't very many. And the I don't know I can't I maybe it's because we've made movies. But just the concept unless it's a if it's a bigger budget film, less slack. But if it's a low budget film, and they got to complete it and they got it out, and they got distribution. Star and a half right from there. We can go up depending on how good the movie The fuck are you that you saw a low budget film? You didn't like it and you didn't like it enough. You had to go on and post that you didn't like you're pretty shady. Because he said that asshole if he loved it wouldn't have bothered to post that he loved it. Yeah, right. So fuck that guy. Right there, right? Yeah. Fuck you, Mike W. FIDE purchase. So it's my turn. It's my turn. And I believe that I'm falling on or near April 1. What? Yeah, the release. We've got one that comes out on April 1. Oh my god. So with that in mind, my fellow radio announcers here? How about we go and take films that have pranks? Mm hmm. I love it. I can already think of like five super exciting. Tell me what they are. So I can see one of them. Is it the fog? Any pranks or fog, shimmering for kids she shared. I love you. Just kidding. Well, I guess the leper colonies kind of get gets praying for the priests. I can I can make this work. All right. So that's what we're thinking pranks for April 1. Awesome. Cool. If you pick April Fool's Day, I'm gonna rage. I guess I'll take that one off the list. Which one? Which one do you want either? Ah, no, I did that. April Fool's Day is actually a very good movie. Yeah. I haven't seen April Fool's day I've seen beat. I've seen April Fool's Day that isn't April Fool's Day. Oh, yeah. slaughter. Hi. All right. All right. So that's what we're doing. Once again, thank you for everything value for value people. 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