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The gang asks the tough questions, like: "What's going on with this inbred family," and, "is it Weiss, or Weiss?" Then their picks for Time-Loop films are discussed.
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Oh, sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition? To show you Strange Aeons. Walton Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That's business over there. Good morning. I'm Kelly. Hey guys, so glad to see you today. It is a nice lovely, pretty summer day and we are civic Northwest. So we've got the shades up on the window and we're all having a grand time. Dark clouds rolling over here. It will be it'll be it'll be gone in 10 minutes. Yeah. The value for value model is rolling along swimmingly? Yes. And I had a ball. I just wanted to throw out a thanks to Andrew buyers who just recently sent some money our way. Thank you so much, Andrew. Also you were asking about Strange Aeons stuff like the magazine and the book that's coming out. I will be giving everybody a very big update to all that as soon as I have some, some real firm dates, but we've got a novella coming out. And supposedly the final issue of the Macy I would also with the final issue why I didn't even get here is Vanessa talk about it more when it comes. I also gigantic thanks to Jason Weiss. Do you guys know Jason Weiss? Yeah. Jason, if you're listening, please let us know if you are like Rachel vise or just Weiss we Is it like the double V for like, which I will go time to change that spelling? Yeah, I only got I only got to meet Jason at crypto con once when he was doing like a john Carpenter panel. And that was a blast. And, and I like Jason a lot. And I think that it would be really nice if we could all do that again. Sometimes. It'd be so nice to like, see Jason and first of all, say hi. And also there are such amazing people at cryptic con that I missed. Oh, yeah. I did run into Jason at a party being held by Jason who spells his name wrong. Oh, and talk to him for a little while there. And it's like, pretty cool. gnosis stuff, man. Yeah. Well, he showed new stuff on that panel. But Jason and then suggested maybe we all watch a movie. And we did. Yeah. Well, he gave us a list of what you'd probably call us PlayStation films. And we tried to find one none of us have seen and we were able to find one that none of us are saying. Yeah, well with that in mind. We chose the movie body melt or did it choose us? I think it shows us I think it like wrapped its vines and roots out from under the earth grabbed us and hold us down to it sopping rotting dirt. All by that's about how I felt. For everybody listening body melts from Australia. 1993 had a budget of $124,000. Wow. But I could not find any box office information. No Rotten Tomatoes, critics, but the audience hates it at 31%. Honestly, that's high for like, we're talking a little bit before that. Vanessa said that this is a vinegar syndrome release. And if you're familiar with vinegar syndrome, that gives you a whole little notepad full of what this movies probably like. And I'll be honest, it's a little better than a lot of stuff. I was actually thinking because I almost bought this movie just based off of the premise. And I was thinking, you know what, if I had bought this, it still would have been in like the top third vinegar syndrome purchases that I've made just for quality and the fact that has any kind of plot. So good, good work. Well it was written and directed by Philip Brophy, who is mostly known as musician and composer of experimental and multimedia art. This was his only feature film, its stars, a bunch of people, Gerard Kennedy, who looked very vaguely familiar to me, Vincent Gill, who was the night writer in Mad Max, Gina Gallus. And then as I started digging into deeply, every single person in this was on a TV show called neighbors. Yay. Okay. These birds become good friends. Oh, man. Okay, I gotta say, I have not seen this. Oh my god, it's so good. So yeah, I think there's a little bit humor to find that everybody in this is from a soap opera that's been running from the 80s. They the cast has been put into this really gooey movie. Yeah, it's like a candy bar that got kind of wet and left out with lots of nougat you get and nuts. I will say it starts with an admittedly pretty sexy scene with the the the nude woman and the man, I can't tell if they've just had sex or whatever. But then she administers a drug via needle to him and he seems very willing. And I was like, Alright, I can hang with these people. He was asleep. Now he can or she was stroking him and I mean, stroking his stomach. But that kind of, but it was a certainly a different look from the entire rest of the movie that opening. Yeah. Yeah. Because I, this happened and I was like, Oh, it's gonna be some kind of sexy or I'm into shit like that. And then it goes into some weird Australian outback inbred family and a couple of travelers. Yes, yeah. And I was like, Well, now Where are we? What's going on? And I'll tell you this through the entire movie. I did not understand what was going on with the Australian and oh my god, I'm so glad you said that. Because I was also like, I'm gonna be the one person who wasn't paying enough attention to have understood why I can't why. Okay, there's a photo that one of the doctor who gets like his hair pulled off. Yes, by the guy. Those two were like, scientists partners at some point. Because there's a photo of the two of them that they reference being together this right. He was supposed to be like the super genius one. The guy who in the outback. Yeah. While the other guy just, you know, sort of the Tesla to his Newton words are not new Tesla to is Einstein, Edison. Edison damn one of them people. But that was what I got out of it that he was the one who if he'd still been working together, maybe they would have figured it out. Or he took a version of it early on, which is why his family was all distorted. I'm not sure what happened after but I did get that. I think at one point the two of them work together is that because Leah I was wondering because near the end, he kind of did like a smart dude speech. And he was playing those. This is the same guy who's playing those video games, right? And just kept unwrapping. Yeah, okay. I kind of wondered if he was somehow an assistant or somehow had worked with the guy. But then I was like, No, I'm being crazy, cuz that's very right. I really 10 years. You're right. Okay, is there is Okay, is there a random question? And I'm sorry, I know we haven't even talked about the basics of this film yet. But backwater town the same as like the cool neighborhood that you should go and live in for the awesome like health benefits club. I got the feeling it was all connected. Yeah. I was trying to work out if there was like one half of the town that's just like crazy Hicksville and the other half that's like a front side. That was like, that was what I got. I was supposed to be decommissioned, right? A couple guys early in the movie gave Greece a run for their money for supposed to look like teenagers or whatever they're supposed to is like, I first i thought i was you know, two guys sharing a house or whatever. But no, they're supposed to be the kids and their parents aren't. Oh my god. Yeah, you're pushing for this. Yeah. So I guess the main story is the residents the residents of pebbles court are are basically they don't realize that they're being given these dietary supplement pills and they are basically the the control group for this new drug. And they don't realize it it's a it's a different world when you're watching something and you just get this sample thing in the mail and you just go ahead and do it like the 90s Yeah, man is different time then I know if I got something randomly sent to me in the mail now I'm leaving it alone. Especially if it's by a company I've never heard of that I know nothing about it could make you both claim to make you the ultimate healthy human being and health that health craze man he was. I don't remember it because I was pretty small at the time, but that was strong shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, this feels like it's about 10 years too late for the health craze. Except that it is Australia. Yeah, different timeline. Yeah, this movie john travolta three I'm Olivia Newton john already physical did up a decade are the pills of course have horrible side effects. Yeah, but there is that one great scene that felt a little bit like it was cribbed from the stand where there's the the scientist is trying to warn them. He stolen the car and everything. Yeah, the car crashes and a amazing tentacle out of his mouth effects that I was like, Wow, this looks great. Yeah. And most of the effects did look pretty good. Yeah, no really high quality, even though. I mean, it's a Goofy Movie. But some of those moments like there's at one point, somebody throw his slit and like things start coming out of it. And then like slither back in. Oh, man, that looks cool. I found myself probably three or four deaths in maybe not even that far. And it started to get that thing where you know, something's about to happen. So I felt myself laying every coiler back on what sick crap. They kind of throw out as this. Yeah, this was definitely like the bingo checklist of what is the grossest thing I can add to this movie? There was there was a lot of liquefying flesh. Yeah, there were some interesting tongue things going on. One woman man Yeah, the exploding stomach was nice. The heads exploding the birth of the baby, which was upsetting. Yeah, the park though at botanic cracked me up when it showed the photo of the doll or whatever the in the closet with a tear blowing all over the place. Because the lady's stomach blew out. And then basically every character that you've been introduced to dies, and we're left with a with a scene of the vitamins being mass produced and available very easily at this stuff kinda Yeah. For most of the film can go on man, but it doesn't seem like enough people to barely You know, you're watching that slasher and Yoshi like three kids at the camps are gonna be more people aren't. Yeah. And then that family August together in the garden goes to the place that Oh, there we go. There they are. There they are there for more. So literally, everyone who takes it eventually dies. Am I correct? Or was there one? Even the lady at the at the place? The beginning? Yeah. And then the guy she was trying to off? By giving it? Did he eventually die, too. He was like, I think he's the first one a year, didn't he? Or something like that? Oh, the scientist, doctor, the doctor. Here. The guy, the girl, the guy that she gave this shot to at the first. Here's the one who went to the convenience store. And he was the one who was drinking all that time. Okay, I thought there was one person who they were having a conversation and they were like, why didn't you Why isn't he dead? I thought you said he was gonna die. And she was like, oh, like he was stronger than I thought I didn't know he was gonna be okay with the serum. So I thought I don't know, I was getting pretty lost. There was a lot of melty, gooey explodey things going on. As far as satire goes, and I have to assume that that was the point of this is they're making a statement about the health craze and the people who are extreme health nuts. This one had, you know, pretty great effects. And all of the acting was pretty decent. He Oh, yeah. The acting that felt over the top felt like it was over the top on purpose. Sure, absolutely. So I didn't. I don't know. I just enjoyed this. The there were a couple of laugh out loud scenes for me. Well, like when the one kid escapes from the inbred family jumps in the truck, and then tries to drive it off the truck that they've just been driving around in circles this whole time. And it turns out that the steering wheel doesn't work. And that's why it drives around in circles. I thought that was pretty funny. And very Australian. I would, I would have expected to see that in a Mad Max movie. And it looked like when those guys the two older teens were driving it sure looked like a shot out of Mad Max. Yeah, but gone. I know there's probably 1000 streets in Australia look like that. But I wonder if they actually went out and hey, let's shoot on mad Max's road. No, no. 1015 year or 1012 years later after Max, why not? There was the one scene where the bodybuilder dude puts on the porn. Yeah. And then his cock explodes. And when, when that happened, I had like a moment of weight. I have seen this recently. I think that that was the scene shown in that hospitalization document. So yeah. And because all of a sudden that happened. And I was like, have I seen this? I distinctly remember this disgusting scene. I think honestly, was there any scene that affected you more or any death that affected you more than any other like for me, it was definitely the woman giving birth to the placenta that became alive and then the baby that jumped out like face hugged her husband. Yeah, that was probably the most distressing, huh? Watching Anyone have something rip out of their body from within while they're alive and experiencing it is a tough one for me. Yeah, that's pretty good. They're not really partially because I think it was just, I mean, it made me like I said it made me cringy feeling. Yeah, but most of them felt more dead alive than an exorcist kind of horror, right. So it felt finished with a lot of humor. Yeah. Even when it was when her stomach explodes, the initial part is kind of bad. But then this is what's with the air blowing up. And like ribbons flapping around. So it was all hinged with a really dark humor. Yeah. I think the only one that really upset me probably was the kangaroo death. Well, they did a good job of making it definitely looked like it is not a kangaroo. Yeah. And I think the the idea of the way that people feel about kangaroos is different in a country where they're everywhere. And people were like, you know, constantly running into them with their cars and whatever. Like it's more of a like, Oh, it's a dead deer kind of thing. Well, there's Oh, we ever seen waken fright? No. It's a fantastic film, one of the probably one of the better film best films to come out of Australia, but it's got a very, very disturbing scene, which they tell you a warning about in the end credits. Okay, thanks. But it's basically that the an activity that some people do is they get in their car and rundown kangaroo? Yeah. So they actually filmed some people doing that. Oh, my God put it into the movie. Oh, my God, it's very disturbing. So I think there's I think it's both got a combo thing there where there's probably a lot of people that absolutely hate kangaroos. And that bothers them then the other side where they're absolutely being protective of them. Because this film was very much like, this is horrifying. Isn't it's like, Yes, it is. Oh, yeah, I guess that's I guess that's fair way confront was, you know, seven days ago, I think there was a different layout totally different. I mean, weekend had like a straight up pig slaughter on it. And that was like, Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was 70. Different time, Vanessa. Really, the only trivia that made any sense to me was that this entire film was shot over 30 days. The rest was the rest of the trivia was just the fact that Brophy has done a lot of multimedia projects and things like that kind of generic. Yeah. And a lot of people saying, oh, did you know that this person was in the cast of neighbors? Well, it turned out that like everyone, but Phil was probably one of those things. Sorry. Hey, guys, I got about this much money to spend. Let's get together and have some fun. And we'll spend most of it on the effects. Just so you know. Interesting, too, that you said that the director came from a sort of music background slash experimental visuals. Have either of you seen coolers ice? The Vanilla Ice movie? Wow, there's a I think that's probably a first time reference on this show. Well, somehow I miss that one. Yeah, no, I did do okay. So I feel like there's this period of time. And it's very much also like Bill and Ted to where there's this sort of Dutch camera, bright colors, low angles, in your face over the top exaggerated feel that this movie really dives into this very 90s aesthetic, but like, or cool, 90s aesthetic that it reminded me a lot of coolest is just from the approach. And that was also done by a music video director. And I think so as to maybe, maybe I'm making that up. But I think that there's this kind of crossover effect that's happening. So I don't know, that was something that I kind of enjoyed about this movie was how of that moment it felt and how much it just went for it and didn't hold back. So that was kind of cool. Like, I never felt like it was like, I don't know whether or not we should do this. It was always like, Yeah, let's do it. I'm not quite sure why one of the muscle guys had a woman's voice dubbed in and like it was funny, but it was like what Okay, sure. I'll say this for $124,000 they got their money's worth. Whoa, doesn't look like a it doesn't look like an indie film. No, you know, the the filmmaking was very competent. And I thought the acting like I said was also very competent. So in the end, I'm glad that I saw this. Yeah, I don't know that. I'll put it on again anytime soon. But no, no, no, unless like, you know, we talked earlier at a different a different themed podcast of movies to put on at a party that will wake everyone up and go What? Yeah, this seems like that kind of good point. Have a party Don't tell anyone what's going on. See what happened? Is this a trauma film? No, no, no, this is better, sir. Not and if this intrigues you at all, if you've seen some other stuff, man, if you haven't seen not quite Hollywood, highly recommended one of my Favorite documentaries about film, period it is just fantastic. And a whole lot of films that I've watched since that I've liked. were featured on that a lot. Well, I'll say this Jason now, now that you've kind of put this out there and then we watch this, I'd love to get your thoughts on it. Oh, yeah. What are your favorite movies? Is this I'm gonna make these guys pay. Yeah, what is this? Was this like torture was this like, Hey, guys, if you have not seen this movie, it's amazing. Like, what? What was the intention behind this, sir? Yeah, I need I need. Yeah. Okay. Hey, guys. We're about we take a little break. Come back and then we're talking time loops. Hey, guys, I need to take a little break. Hey, guys. Why don't we take a little break? Come back. The Incredible Hulk spider man he grew up with tall and pulley. This is a job for me. Handsome. The Incredible Hulk and spider man from the superhero collection each sold separately by me. We have returned and Vanessa, this was your sub genre pick? Yes, it was I'm so excited. Um, I you know, I thought I didn't like time loop films. I thought I found them really irritating and just not enjoyable and kind of boring and a little tedious. But I've come to really love a bunch in the last couple years. Till like a crate, like, happy death day is one of my favorite movies of all time. Wow. Yeah. It's like if I'm not feeling good. It's now my go to movie. I loved Palm Springs. There's just been a couple of really strong time loop foams that I've seen recently. So like, maybe any genre though, if it's done well, yes, you're gonna like it. There's even some found footage films that are done well, that I like so. Exactly, exactly. I think that the concept frustrates me. But if it's executed, right, then it's well worth it. So I was I was thinking it'd be really fun to like dive into a couple of instances of films that either had straight up that Groundhog's Day feel or had, you know, moments that were on repeat, like in the matrix where you see the cat go by and it's like, oh, wait, that means I'm in the matrix. So the movie that I chose for this one, it's funny, because it was it was kind of put on and somebody was like, hey, do you want to like check out this film random film, like last week after I'd already said timely because I was definitely going to do happy death there. And somebody put on this movie, and I realized, you know, in five minutes in the title and movie and I was like, and I really enjoyed it, and I was like, I think I have to talk about this movie instead. So I'm going with the 2021 movie boss level. nj Can I get a large bottle that buys you thinking too much? How can you drink like that too? I used to complain that every day felt the same. And now every day I have died 144 times when every day it's like this. But it doesn't matter. Now when you've lost everything you've loved then technique killed 150 times to rewrite history is mine. I know everything that's gonna happen one thing that never changes what's up pretty boy a bunch of assholes and killing me for reasons that remain a mystery. I am going in and out right now. I'm going to need your help German young woman I've ever loved anything stumped. Is he still alive? Over and over again. To I say I would only have a day. I think we get a lot done in a day. Someone's been the busiest little baby because of you exactly. Bring them all. every last one of them. I can do this all day. That's a good one. We're big fans. Yeah, you both have checked it out. You both have seen it. It's I think I rented it from Amazon was how I got a hold of it. It's on Hulu. So I'm guessing that sorry. Oh, you know what? You're right. In fact, I have that. I have that in my facts at the very end. You're right, who available on Hulu, guys. Um, so it's free. And the rotten tomatoes. It has a 73% from critics and a 77%. From audience. I don't know what Rotten Tomatoes means and COVID times. I know, you know, was there a pre screening was there. I do know that this was screened once or earlier on during pandemic. But budget for this 43 million box office 1.3 million. Yeah. So I don't again, I don't know what that means. We're in COVID times. It's, you know, streaming deal. situation. I just don't understand. I I kind of wish that this had been available to see just in theaters because it's such a fun theater film. It's very action oriented. The director of this which makes sense is Joe Carnahan who's a director, writer, producer. He's produced 27 projects, directed 17 and written 22. He directed a team the gray, and he's doing the raid remake. Yeah, I know. Why not use the guy? Yeah, who did the raid? It's fine. It was. He also produced a blacklist state of affairs and the 2019 Point Break film and he wrote this movie. He also wrote deathwish from 2018, narc ATM and gray. So he's got he's, what do they call a triple threat, or whatever? Yeah, your Producer Director. So the and the writers, the additional writers on this really haven't done much of anything. There's Chris Bori and Edie Bori, who he teamed up with I think this was originally their film, and he took it on. They both did boss level as well as open grave. And then Eddie Bori did some other crap. But they've really he's done for things Chris boy has done too. So they're very much new writers. Starring Frank Grillo as Roy over our hero. He's been an 81 projects you you probably recognize him and go I don't know who this guy is. But I've definitely seen him before. He did 76 episodes of a TV show called Guiding Light. In fact, he did a lot a lot of TV he's been in prison break the shield. He's been some show called kingdom and 40 episodes. He also is noticeably from Avengers as Brock romulo. So that's where you're definitely going to be like, Man, this guy. And he's in the recently released jujitsu. Which is so bad. Is it? Yeah. Nick Cage. I know. That's why wonderful. god awful. Oh, dang. Alright, well, I guess if I drink enough vodka, watch it. Admittedly, you saw Godzilla vs. Kong was great. So you'll probably love it. You know? You and I were either really agree or really disagree. There is no gray, middle and in there. The great combining moment is crappy super action bullets. Yeah. You seem to converge on that very regularly. I'm glad that you're paying attention to this because I just know that sometimes he makes me mad. And sometimes I'm like, he's not That's true. That's true. Oh, Kelly. Um, Frank Grillo by the way. He is a hard working motherfucker. He is in nine films coming out in 2021. He averages between two to five films per year. This guy fucking slams it. So I am expecting to see a lot more of him in the future. I am worried that he just gets thug rolls and just kind of rolls with it. But he's got some talent. He's also like ruggedly handsome. He's right. He is in his 50s. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You can act as a guy forever. There's no limit. We also have a Mel Gibson in this film. You might remember him from 61 films including a mad mad sorry Mad Max Mad Max to the road warrior Mad Max three Beyond Thunderdome and generally being a racist and scummy human being my head is found my time in the back of a police car. Nationally loved and why do you get to be so mean Mel for Oh my God. He's also he's kind of made a bit of a comeback or he's trying I don't know why he's forgiven and so many other people aren't. But this guy, he just, I don't know. He's making a comeback. He does manage to he's kind of back ending in a smart way. It's not like he's playing his Lethal Weapon characters. He now plays the asshole. He died in whatever movie he's in. That's true. Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, and he's definitely been picking some really strange rules, which I think helps a lot more like an indie or like a B movie style approach. So he's been coming out of actor jail and starring and things like the beaver Batman and Expendables three. But I just need to just need to say it. I was looking into like, what's going on with Mr. Gibson? And did you guys know that he called Winona Ryder and oven Dodger? She says, Cathy hasn't tweeted secured. How much can he call her that when he doesn't believe? Oh, that the Holocaust Holocaust happened? He's a complex human being you know, it's all depends on what you want to frame your current argument for you can I suppose Oh, right now I believe in it. But later on, I will. Also like I don't know, I guess I don't look at people go there. Clearly Jewish. Like, I don't know how you get that mindset. But it's, I don't know. Whatever. Third star in this movie, the third highest ranking talent, I should say. Naomi Watts, who's been an 89 things she you might remember as jet girl and Tank Girl. Francis Heffernan and brides of Christ. Rene in the Christmas wish and the Additional voices and baby pig in the city. Okay, yeah. So you know, real, real, lots of lots of exciting roles that she's picked up. Also on this film, Michelle? Yeah, yeah. Ken Jong and Sean McKinney. So we just had out of the woodwork that you'll just be watching the film this film and go oh my god, wait, why are you here? Okay, cool. I mean, no wonder the budget is 43 million like it shows. It definitely shows the plot. So as soon as this movie begins, you know, you're in a time loop film. Because we start with him, like 70 runs in to a time loop. Man wakes up to an assassin trying to murder him. We go instantly into some video where he's talking about, Yo, this is my day. I've lived it many times. He gets around the assassin, there's a helicopter that pops up outside of his bedroom window starts shooting through trying to get him, he jumps out the window. A beautiful woman who's sleeping in his bed, obviously, just a one night stand runs off into the distance. And he jumps out the window onto a garbage truck. And he kind of leads you through his process of how he's memorized this route and how he's gotten so far. I think he gets about 45 minutes into his day before murder. So he's not made a ton of progress in all this time. He is not a fast learner, I would say. And he's definitely the kind of guy who I think would be my experience with a time loop where sometimes you just kind of forget and fuck up. So sometimes he's like, crap, the first thing that's right, I need to avoid the assassin who's on my bed. Dang it. All right, here we go. Again. He brings you through like some of his like more torturous stuffs that really were excruciating. It's really fun because there's a team of assassins who are after him and they all have kind of different things that they like to do. There's two women who ride around in this sort of Van shooting at him. There's a guy with a harpoon. There's a couple of dudes who just have all kinds of different personalities. And it's really fun to kind of listen to his interpretation, and he's given them all fun nicknames. So our lead is a kind of mercenary, I believe, slash ex military. We learn pretty quickly on that his wife or ex wife, ex wife, okay, I wasn't sure if they were estranged or like officially divorced. Naomi Watts. She's working in Some high level sciency tech Hadron Collider situations space. He doesn't really put together any of those kind of obvious Lincoln Logs that we sort of all look at as an audience going. Wait, Should she told you to read this thing? Why haven't you done it? Yeah, you were 70 runs in sir. It's it's definitely, it's an interesting point of view. And I really dig the way that they approach this because it can be monotonous so quickly, and we are fed new information, as he starts to think about, maybe I should be investigating why people are killing me. And he just starts to put together these little pieces. And with each run, through the series of run that we're following him through, he's learning little new things that change his route. So there's a couple of really neat little things in there, like by accident, and he discovers that his son who doesn't know he is the father of his at a like, retro gaming event, and kind of stumbles across him. And he's like, oh, like I could, I could spend some time with this guy. You know, he, he also decides, at one point, I'm going to take down Mel Gibson, who is his ex wife's boss, and tries to memorize like, that particular route of like, Okay, how do I like, get into this, like, insane, complex, and the first time he just kind of takes out his guns and tries to like, walk straight, and that doesn't go well. And he's like, memorizing, like, okay, where the death points are along the way, like how he can, like, circumvent things and do things quickly. So it's really fun to kind of learn with him. I really think you should check out this film, I'm not going to get too far into it. The only thing I'm not a huge fan of with this movie, I feel like the ending is, it's good. And it works. But I also kind of wish that it didn't end the way it ended. So you'll you'll see you wanted a little more. I wanted a little more. Yeah. I wanted that last. It's It's interesting, because the movie, the stakes, are, you know, high because it's this guy's life. And then they suddenly are really high. And I was like, oh, wow, we're, we're doing that. Okay. I mean, I think that's part of why this movie doesn't get boring is because it starts off with like, okay, we don't want this guy to die. And then you realize, you know, maybe some people, you know, his wife, ex wife definitely dies. So he's like, oh, maybe there's a way to save her. And then his son is in trouble. And maybe there's a way to save him. And then it's kind of like bigger and bigger and bigger stakes. And it's really fascinating to kind of see him try to navigate that and go, Ah, save everybody. Everything. Um, it's a really funny, fun film, The writing is surprisingly good. I loved his character development as well, as he sort of starts off as kind of an idiot douchebag. And then, but he he has layers and you get to see these layers, you know, he gets to onion. And he definitely you get that transformation of becoming a better person a lot like you do and happy that then, um, I also, there's just a couple moments I really want to point out that are just so good. So at one point, there's a Ninja Assassin woman who's after him. And every time she kills him with her, her cool sword Dury. She goes, my name is Guan Yin. And Guan Yin has done this. And then like some air goes through her hair every single time. It's so good. And so at one point, he has to battle her and he just can't get past this point without fighting her. And like shooting her isn't working. She's just so good. So he decides to learn how to become like a master swordsman. And so he gets Michelle Yao who like is basically just a woman in a diner that he keeps, like seeing out of the corner of his eye. And so he's like, I need you to train me. My previous master left me with like a little bit of info. And then the next day, he's like, I know a little bit could you? I these are, this is where I'm at. She's like, okay, yes. And he goes, and again, and he's like, my master is extremely good. And I just need to finesse my technique. And so by the end, he's like, just such a good swordsman. And he's just really battling at the same pace as this this woman which is just really fucking fun, a lot more fun than learning the piano. I was gonna say it's the exact same a gimmick in Groundhog Day where bill goes in and learns piano over the course of exactly exactly, but it definitely used to a really fun effect. And yeah, just like the the nice set of characters around him including these weird assassin Mel Gibson's character is actually, you know, just a fun D bag. Probably the the most milky character is Naomi Watts, unfortunately, because she's really pretty, like cast into your like a kind of bitchy ex who, like is a scientist and you know, there's just not a lot there. But our lead is great. The things I don't like about this really boils down to one thing, which is the people who wrote this known very little to nothing about video games. I kind of think that this is a title that doesn't quite fit with this movie. Yeah, yeah. Because, and yeah, it's kind of a misleading title. First of all, like you're kind of alluding to, and on top of that, like they go in so his son's at this retro gaming event, and he goes down there, and like, everything they're saying is wrong, including their, like, Street Fighter sidescrolling game, it's not well, they call it a 16 bit game, which is not, they're using the wrong controllers. Everything is just so like, committed to this idea of video gaming, but with no consultation to anyone who plays games. So it's just weird. And anyone like if you're trying to appeal to that crowd, you're just pissing people off. I'm the one that I kind of, like, okay, whatever was the controllers because it felt like they just use whatever they could get. That would still work. I think in there is like, there was a lot of like, retro like mods that are available. So you can definitely play retro games on like newer controllers, controllers, it just irritated me personally. Well, yeah, the references that we're going to try to drop knowledge and you dropping complete incorrect knowledge. That's definitely he was. It was fucking frustrating people come on. Like, I could figure this out in maybe 15 minutes, you know, like, have all this information racked up so you can not sound like an idiot. A little bit of trivia. There's not a lot of trivia on this. But Frank Grillo his actual son played Rio Grillo. So he was or sorry, his son Rio Grillo played his son Joe in the movie, Meadow Williams who plays a gun, the gun toting Pam, which is the name that is given to her, also served as executive producer on the film. Joe Carnahan, the director is also the man eating lunch in the bar while Roy is trying to pull a tooth out for some reason VIP kid and producer. So she said, I'll write your giant check if you give me a roll. And they lucked out that she's actually really good. Yeah, yeah, basically. I think I think so. Because there's definitely some like fun like, hey, crew member Do you want to like bring those? I looked at all the assassins and very few of them. Were beyond like, you know, be list actors or like background people. So I think it gave some really nice room to some underused people. May 9, the day that's being repeated, is actually the directors birthday. And surprising. Fun, stupid fact. Is coffee machine that gets blown up in the beginning. Yeah, I got the same coffee machine. Oh. is in this movie? Are you also an executive producer? Is your coffee machine and it gave like 50 bucks and they said Yeah, well, we'll use your coffee machine. If you won't be getting it back, though. No. They used about 50 of those. Um, Joe Carnahan has been trying to make this movie for years. It was originally called continue, which was an okay title. It was written by Chris borean ed Bori. In 2010. Carnahan rewrote the script and announced in 2012 that he would direct it for 20th Century Fox. He later filmed screen tests with Frank Grillo, and Fox ultimately decided not to move forward with it for portly disagreeing with Karna Hans choice to cast Grillo as the star. Carnahan later posted those same screen tests on Twitter I think kind of as like a fuck Yuda 20th century the movie was bought, but then by entertainment meant studios motion pictures in April of 2018. While it was filming, it was going to be released in August 16 2019. but ended up missing this date. With no new date announced in June 2010 Entertainment studios said that they had passed on releasing it due to the final product not meeting their expectations, which is fucking weird cuz it's a good movie. And not only that, but would you say it was $43 million. But yeah, it looks like you know, a gigantic summer blockbuster Yes, it does. And it's got, you know, star power in it. I don't know what the problem is. So in November 2020, the US distribution rights were acquired in an eight figure deal with Hulu. And it was released March 5 2021. available only on Hulu, of course, for obvious reasons. So it's, I mean, I love that we're in a streaming age where a movie doesn't disappear in the way that it used to, like this would have been shelved and never seen. If, you know, yeah. If it hadn't been for a streamer to pop in and say, fuck it, we'll put it on Jesus. This is a great film. Yeah, I was really disappointed after watching this for them, because I felt I love Frank Grillo. Yeah. And I felt like, you know, boy, this is the movie that would have put him on to the a list would have gotten so many good rolls after this. And then you know, yeah, went to Hulu. But that's just not the same. And it's not I agree, I really I would have loved to have seen this movie in theaters. It would have been a really fun theater experience. Yeah. And I think it would have been a hit. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I mean, maybe it wouldn't have been, you know, number top three, but I bet I wouldn't have a problem seeing a crack the top 10 box office for a year. There's no way this movie doesn't make its money back. Oh, my gosh, five. Yeah, easily. You know if things go wrong, that's all it does. Right. A couple 100 million. Absolutely. Absolutely. So that was my choice. And I cannot wait to hear what you guys picked to join us. I love that. Who wants to go next? Right. Nice. Okay, nice. Okay, you go. Okay. I go up. Okay, so I'm doing Groundhog's Day because no, no. Nobody ever talks about that one for this stuff. No, no, I'm going to different route with 1998 run Lola run. If you're a film fan, and you're around a certain world of film in 1998, you probably saw and heard about this because it was an indie, huge hit. But it wasn't much beyond the art house. It was rotten tomatoes is. Again, one of the highest rated ones. I may have talked about 93 from critics and 90 from the audience. Wow. The budget was $2.1 million. And the box office was 7.2 million. So it did fine. But it definitely was you know, an arthouse kind of film, directed by Tom takfir, who's got about 20 plus credits, including perfume the story of a murder, which is a hell of a lot of that money, and Cloud Atlas, which less he's the screenplay for Cloud Atlas, Babylon Berlin, but I don't know that one. Babylon Berlin is on Netflix. It's a series. It's gorgeous the TV is I go, yeah. Stars Franca Franca. pretent who's just done a ton of German production. production. She's also been in house or Bourne Supremacy house American Horror Story, The Conjuring two. She's all over the place. Oh my god, a lot. I didn't know she made it pass born she looks very different. Now. She's got long black hair. Oh, she looks very different from the runner. Oh my god, I gotta be I gotta watch some. Whatever. Other things and more. It's blood patrol. Something like that dagang, which is a TV show, Fandango. I've never been to New York. Sorry, sir. And Herbert naap, whose lives of others, and 152 other things, that's basically that the cast other than that it's a whole bunch of smaller repeating roles. At opens up with a philosophical moment of questions of who we are as humans, and why asking such questions does lead to more questions. And as individuals who run into different answers, which actually plays out in the movie extremely well. The opening credits have some kind of fun, but a little strange animation, very, sub Hanna Barbera, cartoon level animation. And then they use mug shot style images to introduce the cast. And techno music is playing, which plays a lot in this movie, which was also written by Tom. Once the movie starts, it's still playing, but it kind of mutes down a little bit. Okay, let's get into the movie. And it starts with the two leads explaining or Lola talking to her boyfriend on the phone and he's trying to explain what happened because she was supposed to pick them up on a moped and the moped got back run over destroyed or something like that. So she didn't make it. So now he's got this money they suppose are these diamonds he's supposed to deliver to some very nice people. And if he doesn't make it by like, 1230 they'll probably kill him. And so there's three points in this movie where Lola screams when she screams shit happens. So bad moment, the first time she screams is I click into often running and she's got a plan to try to get the money back. And I tell you a little bit the movie puts the term lightning pace to the test. This sucker moves at an incredible pace and running, always running. She runs a lot. The movie runs with her there's a curious if Ron will feel the same way about this song as I did at one point he decided that director decided need to add some lyrics of the rhythm and I'm hearing this rhythm going without print sound as a soundbite. It took a long time but I finally got it. I know. It's a series of various talking about Irish that goes right in with Prince's song controversy. I'm curious if Ron's gonna agree with me on that one. And the lead. Lola, the actress sings those lyrics is saying those lyrics apparently so and shows what one thing they do. That's really a neat stunt that ties back into that opening quote, was when she runs into about five, maybe six people she runs into throughout the movie. And when she hits them, the movie flashbacks and does a series of stills to show what happens to them after she leaves me. And Tam, that's cool. It's really well done. There's another weird thing that's happening that while you're watching is why this is going on. It's a series of a couple arguing and the film shine a lower quality. So it definitely differentiates it from Lola story. And then eventually she comes into that story. And you find out it's her dad arguing with is the woman is having an affair with and how they're going to how he's going to leave at this point how he's going to leave little as wife or mom and get married to this lady or something. At this point, she's just trying to borrow money from her father who appears like he runs a bank or works in a bank or something that doesn't go off real well. The her boyfriend said if she doesn't arrive in time, he's going to rob this grocery store because he hears they have up to a half a million dollars go through their doors in a day. And he needs like 100,000 or something. So plenty. And she arrives just at the moment where he started to rob and there's a great scene where they're talking to each other through the window. And the director shot this Carnage people gonna make fun of me because they're talking really low. So in real life, there's no way to really hear each other, but it works so well in the movie. It's so cool. So it's like, Who cares? It's cool. So we forgive that. And at this point, she gets a gun and doesn't know how to use the gun and he teaches her he tells her how to turn a safety off, which actually comes into play later on. And he does not survive this particular version. And this is where it's a very different time loop from the there's never seems to be a definite awareness that she's repeating. Shayla repeats three times. Although the story's only done three times. And she seems to learn a little bit each time or people around her figure things out about her. It's it's very bizarre, but it's done really well. This one, she starts again. And each time she goes back, it's the two of them the couple laying in bed in this sea of red talking about life and the robberies, various things. And she's often running again, this time animated examples of the this, like when she sees her dad this time, or she runs into the one lady and the story loops again. So you get to see a very different life, this woman she ran into with first time as, and this time when she runs into her dad, he's trying to break up with the lady. So things change around her, which is really cool. And I tell you, once they start doing that background, and she runs into that person, you know that they've done the flashback or flash forward for before. There's one where she kind of misses her and they don't do on like a, I feel robbed. But it comes back and they do they get that. So they they set that up. And it's so interesting. And so well done, that every time one of those people shows up. Oh, cool, what's gonna happen this time, because it changes each time she runs into them. So this one has a great setup, the ending for the reel isn't quite as well done, but it's still cool. So she gets into the time loop again. She screams again, in a way that helps her solve a lot of her problems. What's the one loud scream? It's I don't know, I love the hell out of this film. I liked it so much. I remember liking when it first came out, I remember thinking is really cool. It's even better than I remembered it. So that's so much better than when you revisit an older film. It's so smart in the way it tells even though even the things that are change work, it makes sense. Like there's a blind lady that talks to the boyfriend after he's on the phone a couple times. And she indicates things to him. That helped him along. Because they're they're not independently looping the people she running into, that she's looping to are also going through different things. So it's not just her interacting with the same world every time trying to figure out what's going on, remind me is it explained why this is happening now. If it is I totally missed it actually seems to learn things like the she doesn't know how to turn a safety off on a gun. And another one, the second one, she's kind of robbing the bank. And somebody makes a comment. So she immediately flips the safety off on the gun and knows exactly what she's doing with the gun this time or the guard that lets her in? Oh, you finally shown up again or something. Where's that effect? He says to her it's really, really interesting. The play in ideas kind of goes against the idea of chance, and we'll see what it's playing with the idea what matters more, is that our will have what we put into things or is it just chance that saves us from things. That's what the director was experimenting with anything you did a really good job and the writing and directing of this of working those two angles, and it doesn't and it does not give you necessarily an answer. It even using her screen even sort of confuses it more without actually doing anything or what's going on here. It does occasionally fall into the late 90s overly shakey cam, stuff that works most of the time, but it doesn't do it enough that it becomes like okay enough. It won the 1999 Sundance Audience Award back when Sundance still kind of meant something. small commercial now quite literally. Yeah, disagree. I can't disagree hard enough. That also won Best Film at siff. Seattle International Film Festival. Oh my god, yes, selected but not nominated as Best Foreign Language Film 71 Oscars, so it's kinda like a finalist, and robbery where they did the supermarket where they did the robbery, this filmmaker spent five weeks convincing the supermarket to let them use this location. Like, I don't want you to rob us. It's not real. There's the shot of the crowds spelling out the title of the movie, at the beginning is it looks like a giant crowd all forming at once. It's not it's 300 extras, each doing one letter. And they had to do it over time because they couldn't afford to hire the amount of people they need to do that. And do it in one single shot. So it's actually a composite. Okay, follow that and it works really well. Let's see the confirmed contains 1581, transitions, edits, dissolves, fades, etc. in 71 million minutes of action. So you take out the credits and the pre credits and there's 1500 cuts. Wow. Average shot length is about 2.7 seconds. what's kind of interesting? Is it a flip of what happens with most movies nowadays, the longer it goes, the longer the shots get. So it starts off faster in the beginning and slows down with those cuts as it goes on. Not that it gets read. And apparently, I wasn't able to find this, because I didn't feel like renting the if there's an English dub version, but the English dub version, it's considered one of the worst that's ever been done for a movie of its quality and budget. Then I looked at like when I heard that I looked at rent I think for Amazon, it's for a lot of people. Like Can I change and it didn't, they didn't even have the option to listen to the English. Little side story of our favorite asshole. No, please favorite asshole Harvey Weinstein before he became a famous producer Jason blem was working at Miramax and he had a chance to buy this movie and passed on it. And Harvey found out how after the film did he credibly successful that I think the 7 million was just in the US. I don't know what he did internationally. And Harvey became enraged and threw a burning cigarette in his face. does sound like the Harvey Weinstein? I know. Like grabbed a plant. masturbate. Hey, Jason. You gotta watch this. You know how you've got those notes? Sometimes in IMDb, and sometimes they're good. And sometimes they're like, I don't think so. I like this one at the end. The film in his visual style could have influenced crank. Oh, okay. Thanks. Very helpful. Thanks, IMDb. trivia note. I like the could. Oh, man. I love this movie. I'm so stoked that you picked it. Yeah, this was definitely one of the early films that kind of, I saw it way too young to watch it because my brother was really an arthouse cinema. So I saw like this and Unshin and Dylan and he stole my cheese or whatever. That's my bike. The woman opened a window. And it just I mean, it just really got me interested in cinema as a whole and just really, really loved this movie. So I'm cool. So excited. You picked it. Man, Eric, class in the joint up with his Well, I went in a different direction. And I chose from 2011 source code. I took your advice was very good advice. I can see that you think you know me, but I don't know where you are. My name is Captain Colter Stevens. I don't know who Sean is. And I don't know who you are. Welcome back. Captain Stevens. Where am I? You are inside the source code. What is the source code to computer program captain. Source Code enables you to cross over into another man's identity in the last eight minutes of his life. At 748 this morning, a bomb exploded on a train outside of Chicago killing everyone on board. A man named Shawn Fentress was on that train. He is now you think Captain remember back who bombed the train? On the train? Then try again. Wait, no. What do you think it's the same train but it's different. We've been informed there'll be another attack in six hours. If you find the bomber, the next attack can be prevented. Concentrate on the passengers in your car. Look for ones who seem nervous as always you will have eight minutes eight minutes and then I blow up a guest what would you do? And if you knew you had less than eight minutes to live I'd make those seconds Can I want to go back in I'm gonna save for it doesn't work that way. Christina Stan, she doesn't have to be. This movie is great. You guys. budget of $32 million box office have $147 million worldwide. The Rotten Tomatoes for the critics is 92% and the audience has it at 82% it was directed by Duncan Jones so now it all becomes clear he did before this moon after this Warcraft. No really, Wolf and in pre production right now with rogue trooper and if you are a fan of the Brit comic 2000 An ad you know what a rogue trooper is and what you have to look forward to Oh weird. Duncan Jones of course was produced himself by David Bowie and Angie boy. Oh, written by Ben Ripley, who wrote species three and species for the flatliners remake, and it has been announced that he has written source code to it is starring Jake Gyllenhaal from dirty Donnie Darko bubble boy jarhead. Zodiac Nightcrawler Spider Man, far from home for you played Mysterio Michelle Monaghan from the Bourne Supremacy the first season of True Detective and Mission Impossible fall out. And to my surprise, a very young looking Vera Farmiga from The Conjuring franchise, Bates Motel and Godzilla King of the Monsters. Have you guys seen this movie? Yeah, but not since theaters? So it's been or ever? Yeah, well, I mean, this is 2011. So 10 years ago, you saw this movie. Wow. And I remember liking this movie. And at the end of it, I was like, holy shit, this movie is amazing. It starts off with a man waking up on a train sitting across from a woman who we will come to find out is named Christina. The woman knows him by the name Sean, but he doesn't seem to know who he is at all. So when she's like trying to get his attention, He's not answering to his name or anything like that. And a series of events happen that very quickly. Christina gets a call from her ex. In the trivia you'll find out that the picture that pops up on the phone is that of Duncan Jones. Oh, sir. A woman walks by and spills coffee on his shoe. The train ticket taker asked for his ticket. And then after eight minutes of this, a bomb goes off on the train killing everyone. Know how you kind of forget a movie and somebody says something, the whole thing does well, there it is. So then, the man wakes up and he finds himself kind of he's strapped into this small geodesic dome, and it's kind of like a What do you call it a sensory deprivation tank without the water. But it's got a little bit of light because we need to be able to see his face and his reactions. And he's got a little computer screen that pops on. And Vera Farmiga shows up she's playing corporate Goodwin, and she is a military army officer and explains that he is actually Colter Stevens, a decorated army helicopter pilot who is now on a mission to locate the maker of the bomb which destroyed that train. And this is to be accomplished using a program called the source code, which is a time loop program that allows him to take over someone's body in a reenactment of their last eight minutes of life. Wow. Yeah. So it's it's kind of a complex story, but it it tells us up very quickly, like in the first 15 minutes, you're on board and you realize, oh, okay, he is his mind is being projected into the body of one of the doomed passengers. So his mission in the source code is to assume the identity of Sean Fentress. Like what I said one of the trains dead passengers, he's supposed to locate the bomb, discover who detonated it and report back to Goodwin to prevent the bomber detonated a larger dirty nuclear device in downtown Chicago. And he has every time he goes back only eight minutes to get this all figured out. And by the time he started this, we find out he's been doing this like 40 times already. And he he's having a hard time remembering anything but as this goes on and on he suddenly remember more and more. The source codes creator who is Jeffrey Wright from Westworld. He's everybody in this is just a super powerful actor, and they're so good and the story is so strong. And they're just given great dialogue and anything that is like, Fuck, you know, as a as a film geek, you're just in heaven, because there's some really cool effects going on. And it's just like, wow, this is such a great movie. I mean, I was literally like, why don't I have popcorn in the house with me. So the creator tells him that source code is not quite a simulation, but a visit into the past in the form of an alternate reality. So you cannot alter the past. It's already happened. But he is able to once he goes in there, he thinks that he's able to because he actually gets Christina off the train with him. They they disembark and then the train goes on, and it explodes. And he has saved her right, except he's only got that eight minutes. So he suddenly lands back in the geodesic dome. And the next time he's back there, even though he had saved her. She's on the train. He's in that same spot again. And so he's having all of these problems with this. Go and wait a second. You guys I saved her. She's not one of the people who died and they're like she's on the death list. You didn't do anything. You couldn't possibly have done anything, you're not really traveling back in time. So he is sent into the source code repeatedly each time that series of events repeat with variations due to how he acts too. So pretty soon, he's getting very quick at moving his foot out of the way, the girl is gonna spill the coffee on it. Hands, the tickets of the ticket taker very quickly tells Christina you know that her boyfriend is a loser and her accident, stop worrying about him and all this stuff. And, and he's meanwhile now checking out all the passengers and trying to figure out which one of them has the, the, he's pretty sure it's a phone detonator. So he started to look at everybody. He goes in and finds out, he finds the bomb. And it's a bomb that, you know, he clearly has some kind of understanding of and realizes, okay, a phone can call into this. So I'm looking for a guy on his phone. But as this is all going on, he's, of course, falling in love with Christina. And he's, he's certain he can actually change this and save the people on this. He, at one point, takes a cell phone, and he starts looking up stuff. And this is where the movie gets a little wonky. Because you're like, why is there so much information available to him, it should just be the people on the on the train and all that but it's not he can use the cell phone. And he actually googled himself and finds out that he died two months ago. he confronts Vera Farmiga with this information. And he learns that, yes, he had been shot down in Afghanistan, and his mutilated body was appropriated by the Air Force and used to operate the source code. There have been other. Other I guess you would call them experimental soldiers, probably the same thing. We don't get to know anything about him. But we do get to know that his brain is the only one that has actually been able to do what he's doing right now, which is interact with the source code, and then back to Goodwin. So he finally comes to terms with the fact that okay, I can't change the world and all that, but I also don't like what I am basically a brain in a jar. I mean, we get to see what he is. And he's not that but he's not much more than that. And so he says, If I do this, if I get this, the identity of this bomber and everything, we allow me to pretend to save everybody on this train, and then and then just let my time run out. I don't want to be doing this because he finds out the next thing that is scheduled to happen with him. If he succeeds, this is his mind is wiped and he's set on to the next thing, you know, selfies. Vanessa, does he save the day? I can't remember. Of course he does. But that actually becomes a secondary mission for him because what he's really doing the humanity of the story is the the explosion has already happened. Right? for him. His mission is now to save this, this digital group of people that he has come to interact with in love with numbers. I am not going to tell you exactly how it all winds up. Except that it is so fucking satisfying that there were tears in my eyes. It's got a really neat little twist at the end to that you're like, Huh, what is going on here? It's just I forgot how cool this movie was. It nails the landing? A little bit of trivia. The screenplay for this film was featured in the 2007 blacklist, or yes now with the blacklist. Wow. No, it is a list of the most liked unmade scripts. Oh, so these things get passed around to people and it's become kind of a kind of a unofficial contest in which a lot of the people who are reading them are studio execs and everything and they'll just find a script and they'll be like, what the fuck? Why hasn't this been made yet? It's just an amazing film. And so they put it on the blacklist in the hopes that other producers will Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. Jake Gyllenhaal was attached to the production before Duncan Jones and after seeing moon Gyllenhaal has the Jones be the director. That's cool. Vera Farmiga stated that she took the roll just at the start of her pregnancy in February of 2010. And she knew that in that scenario, she would be unavailable for the next 10 months. she filmed all of her scenes in 10 days. Whoa. And you only ever really see her from about the chest up. She's sitting behind a computer the whole time. And most of the time you see her is through his computer screen so they could hide all that stuff. Anyway. This is the one that I thought was so interesting. The pilot episode of quantum leap from 1989 features the main character played by Scott bacula, jumping into someone else's body in the past, and the episode ends with him calling and talking to his father as he is still alive at that time. In the final scene of source code when the main character similarly takes advantage of being in the past to call his father, the father. His voice by Scott bacula who starts off his phone conversation by saying, oh boy this is trademarked. And just yeah, this movie just left me feeling so good. It's so rare to get one of these feel good movies anymore. I was just like, I just I was like I when for sure. Oh my god see we all three of these have good amyx Yeah, and we'll learn that anyways. Yeah, one weird thing that occurred to me while you're talking about that. You know, one of the things that hit me with possessors I thought it felt really really, really original. Hmm. I guess it might have borrowed an idea from this movie. If that's very similar. Well, that's the episode so that means whose shoes am I choosing next? I think so. Yeah. Oh, man, you guys you're gonna have fucking hate me. Oh, you the listener are gonna love me for sure. Are you guys familiar with the film director Alan Smithee? Not on a personal level, but just take take us on on tears on a journey. Alan Smithee is the name that directors will use on a film. They are allowed to use this by the Directors Guild if they feel like the film has been taken from them. And the studio has changed it in a way that they are uncomfortable with or so much so that it doesn't feel like their project. Right. So many of the most famous version of this is probably not fully because I think he put his name back on it. Oh, we're talking like a dune. Yeah. So if you do a little research on that, I think that that he took his name off of it. They then allowed him to go back and put in a couple of things that he was okay with, and then he put his name back on. But when Dune first showed on theater screens, it was an Alan Smithee film. And I think it's high time that we do an Alan Smithee retrospectives. This almost feels like a very clever applause to way of doing another worst films. Well, except that there's no guarantee these films will actually be good or so bad that they're good. This could just be a bunch of bad films. But I think it'll spark some nice conversation between the three of us. Yeah, I'm really excited. I haven't dug into this. This corner of the the you don't have Alan Smithee at the top of your list? Yeah, directors want to see all their work from I vaguely remember this being a thing and then never thinking about it again. So it'll be nice to kind of do a dive. I don't want to say deep dive a mild dive into this. Well, I know that there are a number of films with this credit on IMDB, but I don't know how many of them will actually be readily available. And I don't know how many fit into the genre that we normally talk about. So in this case, I'm going to open it up to all genres. Any film you want to watch and get in this list. Fantastic. You want to watch? Yeah, want being a strong word? That's right. Fantastic. I'm hoping I'll find a director who was foolhardy. And actually, their film was very good, and they just don't recognize. It can happen it can happen sometimes. It'll be different from this one, because I think this first one in a while we've liked all three, all three of us have liked our pics a lot. So that probably won't be true. Yes. shot in the leg. Thanks, Kelly. Okay, guys, that is the show then. And that's what we're doing next week. Many thanks to everybody who's liking and sharing, participating in the value for value model all of that stuff. We love you so much. keep liking and sharing share far and wide. Tell your friends. Tell your friends you haven't yet annoyed. Your friends and family about us. Keep going. Yeah, just some point. They'll tell you stop talking about things. Yeah. Yeah, your dad's gonna go out and mow the lawn. Say Hey, dad. I have a podcast for you to listen to while you're mowing the lawn. Sure you go with a nice glass of lemonade. And then we'll have a new listener. I recorded it onto a cassette tape for you. You can put it on while you're mowing the lawn. That's exactly what I envisioned in my head. 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