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Vanessa hates Kenneth Branagh and Eric loses power in the middle of the heatwave. Films discussed include A Quiet Place part 2, Hellbent, and Abominable.Support the show
Oh, sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition? To show you Strange Aeons. Welcome to Strange Aeons radio, sweating his ass off over there is Eric Margaret. It's just beginning. I can't wait to see what it's going to be like, an hour from now. Sweating your tits off over there is Vanessa Williams. Don't look too close. It's a real bad. It's real bad. I'm sweating my balls off. You guys. We have not just had the hottest day of the year but like, broke all sorts of records. The hottest day Seattle has experienced since probably the beginning of Seattle when it was molten lava. That it was called Seattle back then. Probably not. Well, you know. 100 years of tracking weather yesterday was the hottest year day we have ever had. Yep. I clocked 100. Nate while I was out. You guys know what you were doing? My apartment was 109 on the outside of it on the inside of it. I don't know. I was not there. I left 111 111 No, it's unreasonable. It's so weird to walk around inside. And it's. I think you said you hit above 90. We were pushing 90. But it's just like, and it's it normally doesn't feel human. Yeah. When it gets really hot like this suddenly, like, Damn, it's really humid. Yeah, I didn't check the humidity. yesterday. I wonder what it was? Like, I mean, you walked out that and you're suddenly slapped for the, like the height of a kiss on a hot, wet fist. It did. It did feel like just somebody really hot breath. Just going. Like right in your mouth. Like, no, no, it's that bad. Hey, Heather, how do you like my hot tub? While you're actually just standing in the middle of parking. I got a bonus to my heat index fund. Yeah, Sunday, it was only 109 that day. Oh, it wasn't the hottest day yet. But we just got home from visiting some Venus family was in town we just got back. And we do have a room air conditioner. Like, okay, we set up in the room, we got the cats in here, we got the TV's off, we got a little TV and they were set. And lights flicker. And my first thought was, okay, we've blown fuses for this room before. And considering the ACS random thing that then I start to go down the stairs. And like the entire place lit up. It's my it's a house exploding. So unfortunately, it slowed me down just enough. And then five or six more just huge crack, crack, crack, playing things like, Huh, and you know, no power. So I went outside and the transformer that is right in front of our place, probably 40 yards away below, oh my god, I wish I would have thought of that at the first pop because I would love to go out there looked out the window and watch it blow up. So nine hours later, we got our power back. Oh my God, we just hang at home the whole time. We eventually decided that we after a few hours because what they did that usually just on average is actually really good. Again, the power back on and also very good at their time estimations. This time I hit back on it for and at fourth it back on at six. But then when it's six and is back on at eight, like okay, we're getting in the car, presenting an air condition. We're driving around for a while. And and so we did that for an hour, hour and a half or whatever. And of course nothing either everything was closed. every restaurant or something you went to is just packed with people. And so we eventually went back and they were out there working on 10 o'clock that night it came back on right. And then of course, all day it's been baking so it didn't feel cool. Actually. Well, you know it cooled down to 88 degrees 20 degrees cooler than yesterday. That's what I've been saying to people. I'm like it's only 91 right now that's like 20 degrees. That's the difference between 70 and 50 people. It's amazing. And normally this is the kind of day where if you're living in a shack on Jesus, this is hottest day Yours. Now it's like, oh my god. Yeah. Yeah, it's like I am too hot to move, but I can think. And that's a huge plus. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Well put. I was really I was laughing a little bit. Because right before the heat really kicked in all the power companies were like, don't worry about it. We're gonna be fine. Like no power. We're not gonna have power outages, guys, neither thing and I've spent a fair amount of time in the south. And I'm like, you guys are fucking stupid. There won't be power outages. You're ludicrous. And sure enough? Yeah, there were some we don't have since we only have what I think it's 33%. ac? Yes, it could have been worse, like the number one least air conditioned city in the country. So maybe probably pulls a lot less power. But still, it's you know, come on. Everybody still only has 10 fans going 24 seven. I know I did. Well, there's fans going on in here. There's windows open. So you'll probably hear all the Simon's going by right now that thankfully the sun. Like normally the sun is beating down on us while we're recording. And now it's not it's not the middle of the night. Because we don't want to miss a single week. For you, folks. We're so we're so dedicated. So dedicated before we get into anything else, speaking of dedicated and all that stuff I forgot to mention last week that will allow that participated very generously in the value for value system. And thank you so much. Well, well, thank you. Well, rock star. That's right. And along those same lines, Bob, or you know, Bob Bab has contributed something that we will be cracking open on our last show here. Before we new move to the new Strange Aeons. home studio I'd like to go over to professional or student Oh, so I just wanted to say thanks a bunch for that Bob. It looks pretty damn good. And he did. He did have a little toss out for maybe underrated sport space. Perfect. You might want to check on Pandora. Yum. Yeah, maybe. Thanks. Good. So that's when I watch it. And I'll rewatch it. I watched it when it came out. I think it's about 10 years old now. Cool. And I remember being okay with it. Love it, but I thought it was okay. There you go. namespace madness going on. Oh, I'm up soon. We tell you your mediocre movie. Thank you. I'm just glad it wasn't highlife, because I will not watch that again. I know. Let me make that clear. You made it clear. Hey, Bob, we'll be seeing you in person because we're gonna be going down to Lovecraft Film Festival this Sunday. We're sure when is it happening? What month usually the first weekend in October? Yeah, I don't think that has been finalized yet. But that's what they're hoping for. Come up and visit a script con. Yeah, we know that happening. To get out of the heat, you guys. I actually went to the movie theater for the first time in 15 months. Oh my god. Well, now I have to congratulations. And I saw a quiet place to There we go. I liked it. Like you. I didn't like it as much as the first one. And I realize there are some things that happen in these kind of movies. You know, we got to see the creature really at the end of the first one and we get to see a lot of the creatures and this one was kind of Lincoln. I mean, they're cool looking but they were way cooler looking when I wasn't sure exactly what alien aliens kind of thing there. That Deaf actress is so good that I'm just like fool. How do we get these young people who can act like this? It's shocking because I remember in the first one thinking she was pretty good, although the character was a little bit irritating. And the second one I was like, This kid is shining and oak is so good. Like just triple her performance. It just absolutely incredible. And then I'm blanking on his name is Killian Murphy. Scarecrow. So, so interesting to see him in a role where he was a good guy. And weird. I was like, well, When is she gonna betray her? It's almost You know what? extra layer of tension. I'm all in and then I'll just say this. Not the ending I was expecting. Yeah. Oh, well, or the way it ended out. And then the credits came up. I was like, What? Yeah. No, I was like, Is there a nother one? Yeah, there. I mean, I will see it if there is but yeah, it definitely. I was shocked to I was like, a guides, like, Oh, okay. I mean, it's not a bad ending at all, but it just didn't bother to do That the kind of sewing up that you might get in a lot of other gasly. I did realize there were some things that I didn't quite understand. But mostly what I don't understand through both of these movies is why are these creatures here? And why do they hate us? They don't seem to eat us. They just kill us. I thought they ate us. No. They just run around and tear you apart. But I figured they're digesting us as they were tearing us apart. But I mean, this one, they kind of show that Meteor breaking up or whatever, overhead. So I figured maybe they're just like space ants that landed here, and they're doing space and stuff. They can't really help themselves. I don't think they're here to do anything in particular. Well, I think that is a story flaw. Then my biggest complaint about the second one, the most confusing moment was they walk through this train yard or the girl walks through a train yard. And there's a bunch of shoes, women's shoes on a platform, and I was like, there's a serial killer in here. And he's murdering women and keeping their shoes in a pile. And then much later, I realized that was not the case. And it took me a lot of work to figure out what that actually symbolize. And it was fine. But it was like, really threw me for a loop that they like, showed us special on that I was right there with you. And I was like fucking killing it. I mean, it would have made sense. I was just waiting. I was like, there's some creepo horrible human in here. And he's gonna like, try to take her shoes. Luckily, she doesn't have heels. So that's a plus. Well, that's what I like. I'm so glad I'm so glad you got to the theater to see it rather than watching it in your living room. Yes. Well, I've been watching a couple of different things. Not a lot of super genre stuff. Unfortunately. However, I did since Loki has come out. I have been doing the thing that I did with one division as well, which is going back and rewatching the appropriate Avengers movies. So I started with the first Thor. What a god awful movie. That is. You shut your mouth. I love that. I thought I loved that movie, too. I was wrong. This is the most Dutch shit I've ever seen. They do not have a straight on camera. Like it's like the the tripod broke. And they were like let's roll with it like the whole way through. Wow. And the African back good saying that Kenneth Branagh because I know he's good when he has to make more he has to he's good when he's making Shakespeare movies, which is all he otherwise really does. Cinderella wasn't that good? Yo, did you see that? You are a hard woman to please. I like him as a person. I think he's a great actor. But not to fall in love with your like, like a brother Kenneth. Like a really good brother. Um, yeah, no, um, it was really, really difficult to sit through. It was incredibly boring, incredibly tedious. And I hated everything about it. And then you watched Thor The Dark World, and you were like, oh, Christ. Just let me back. And I did see that in theaters. And I did fall asleep in the first 15 minutes. So I don't know. Well, that's fine. Go with that. That's what I'm keeping and holding on to just go to what is it? Ragnarok Ragnarok is amazing. And we all know why. That directors incredible. And he's only done incredible work. So Challenge accepted. Let's see what shaping he's made from that go into the go in to the deep dark areas of it. I promise you you will not be sad. Maybe Eagle versus shark did he direct that? I didn't see that one. All right. Look at me like I'm weird. Come on. We're talking about movies. What do you watch? Something from arrow. Can you believe it? What What is that? I don't know. Tell me more from 1988. hell bent guessing. Have you seen this one? You might? Is this the one where the guy has to drive into hell? No. That would have been very interesting. The This one is, but it does involve the devil. The devil is played by remember the cop in the shield that they put like, dog crap in his desk and he was sort of the whiny guy. Yeah, he plays the devil in this interesting. He's pretty good at it. But, boy, this is low budget gold. I'm kinda like, watching the first 510 minutes I'm like, oh boy, what am I signed up for me and this is a vinegar syndrome. This is arrow. Oh, no. Oh, no. But then he the the storyline is this this guy in a band and he wants to you know, of course be successful. So we deal with the devil. But when he goes to the club, where the devil is and he walks in and the set design is batshit crazy. just weird stuff on the walls. drunk guy at the bar looks like he's been sitting there for 40 years some weird DJ playing pointless strange music. Like, this guy is supposed to be the really successful guy who gets you all pumped up and doing well. The way the movies put together is so stupidly entertaining. And it is such a painfully 80s looking movie. Everything is garish and bright and the people are all wearing weird shit that looks like maybe the wardrobe of Miami. I said no, this is not going to work. They rummage through the trash picked out the pieces. There's a group of guys who are going around killing the people that have made deals with the devil because they might have gone bad or something. kid gets kidnapped and the wife almost becomes the mom almost becomes the lead in the movie for a little while. who drives you nuts? Because she doesn't just shoot people at certain times. It is just fabulous. Crap. I can't say don't watch it because you really should. Because it's just amazing. Director by Richard Casey. Really, right? No, you haven't heard of him? As like no Camden can't connect dots. A second. Oh, man Casey's dick. You're saying dick mean? This is? Michael the bronze have convinced me that I needed to watch a bottom of bubble. abominable which was going to be my possible snow pick movie. Sure until you hear this bullshit. Genre picking really gave me issues. And I probably would have picked this except that. Except for one scene in the beginning was snow on it. There's no snow in this Yeti movie. Oh my god. Really? It takes place up in the mountains. For the hammer movie. No, no, that's the abominable snowman. This is this is got Lance. henriksen. Okay. I know the cover of that way. Yep. And it's got a couple of good, good scenes in it. Overall, Michael, I didn't love it. But always nice to see Tiffany Chevys in a role where she's not taking her clothes off. Here's a weird Tiffany Shepard note that I didn't know until it popped up on her social media she doubled for Britney Spears for one of your videos. She's like this band in or doublers anything up to Yeah, so yeah, and which is not to say that I don't like seeing her naked. I just like that she gets offered movie roles where she doesn't have to get naked every time. Yeah, that's a big plus. Well, speaking of watching Thor to watch Loki Have either of you watched the most recent Loki? No, I've seen the first two or three or three now. I saw Yeah. What do you think? didn't love it until the last 20 minutes and then I thought it was gold. It was so confusing. I felt like the pacing was really whiplash where it was going between like we're literally sitting here doing nothing and talking and then we're running because everything around us is exploding and there was nothing in between throughout the whole episode. All the talky stuff very felt very doctor foolish he did his whole episode felt like Doctor Who completely I was definitely right there with you on that because I was like, you guys. I mean, it's really high budget well written Doctor Who but it's still a doctor. But I'm really starting to like this sort of female character. I thought they did a really good job of developing a character in a pressure cooker under a very short amount of time. So I feel like I connect with this. I do wish this was across maybe two episodes because this had a lot happen in it. Especially at the end. But yeah, but at the same time, I bet this is already part of a two part piece. So I just be breaking it into smaller and smaller bits. So I don't know it's a we felt like it kind of shifted genres. One could argue as part of an eight part piece. Maybe it should have been like a 10 part piece. Maybe it should have been a few more pieces. That's my my thought. Well, not enough own Wilson. Well, you know a lot of sassy today. This heat. I know I'm so grumpy. Go back and watch bottle rocket. Oh, good, Lord. It's not my favorite. Anyway, Nosferatu in Venice, vampire in Venice. And not familiar. You seen every movie. This is what's happening. You Iranians and you're just digging through the bottom of the barrel going what else is in here is a seven shirt that I got in one of their box, you know their group releases. Also, interestingly from 1988 but Klaus Kinski reprises his role as Nosferatu. Well, are you saying that he reprises his role in the way that this is a sequel? It was supposed to be. Oh. Kinski is such a dick at this point. Yeah. All right. He's in sufferable I guess to work with by now. Yeah. And he, he was originally he didn't want to do the ball puffing anymore. He wanted to have long flowing hair and different kinds of teeth. Which is probably why most places called vampire in Venice. It's a crazy movie. It's entertaining. And it's really bad but it's really art. It goes from incredible artsy and cool to really, really dumb. I'm guessing Verner has nothing to do like did Herzog do like half and then walk I forget the name of the director but the first director got into a fight with Klaus on like day two and walked off the set a sure and sued and want to get his entire fee. Oh my god me that at some point. Verner and Klaus were like thinking about hiring Hitman to kill each other something like that sounds right. Yeah. He calls him as best feed. They have a real he made about their relations. They have definitely shown up on set ready to murder one another through very I think one of them. You had a gun on what was it? Fitzcarraldo? I don't know, I need to read I believe that was the one. Yeah. But and so Klaus Kinski ended up directing parts of the film at least. Wait, what? Yeah, exactly. No, no shot Adventists. It's quite nice looking. But I mean, like, for example, there's a part where you get shot with a shotgun. And like this perfect round hole appears in his torso. And the blue effect is sort of fluttering, not holding still, oh, no. And then it re engages and becomes flesh again. It's kind of cool. But he the better part though, of the desk is not the movie, the movies fun and interesting. But there's a documentary on it, which is clevers, Klaus from like, 84 to his death, when he just went over the top. And listening to these directors talk about the stuff he did, like, one director was, he was sitting there playing chess with somebody and they wanted to move the angle, you know, coverage. And he's like, No, I will not, I will not sit in this chair anymore. You have to figure out some other way to do it. And he director said, you're going to be a ghost. This is not in the script. He's just like, you got to be a ghost. And Klaus thought that was so brilliant. Oh my god that he loved the guy at least for a day. And but in I think it was that same one he ended up they only had him for three days. And he's like, we're just gonna keep shooting because I love this so much. We shoot till my scenes are done. And they guess they shot 30 hours straight until Klaus passed out. And then they were done. They said like two scenes but he never came back. Wow. And he's he's doing shit that would get him in big trouble now like, like, kind of sexually assaulting women while they're in the middle of the scene. Oh, my God sound guy was talking about something he was doing to her that only he could see. Because him in the camera we could see. Because the way it was set up, they were blocking that part of the shot from every other from other people in the crew. Yeah. And you say, I'm not surprised. Like that's, that's a real fear factor. Because you know, the female or whoever else is in the scene. If they say like, if they cut it, and they go, Oh, my God, he's fucking touching me, then you've ruined, you know, hundreds of dollars worth of production in those few minutes. So the pressure to not say anything is huge, and therefore the person's getting away with whatever it is they want to do. She got up and ran out of the room. Oh, that's good. I'm really glad that I'm glad she was able to do that. Because that's a horrible situation to be in. But that that documentary about him is the movies cool and fun. But that back is so good. Wow. Wow. I always assumed Herzog was a little bit of a dick but now I'm just like, Huh, that's available on tubi and I know at least one of you is going to recognize this night flight. Oh my. I keep thinking I get that flight channel for four bucks a month or whatever. No, it is this is it just about like movies on airplanes. was a show that would come on, you know about a pm or something. It was Midwest show and it was on the USA Network. Back when that That was a big deal because there were three channels and then a couple of cable channels they would just play like whatever weird fucking videos and then have a movie and then they they the first Power Rangers stuff I ever saw was stuff that they had on there that was dub to say really horrible stuff. Oh my god, it was hilarious and Gilbert godfried I think had a show on there and they did like some lady I think who hosted Oh, that was Rhonda Shear. Yes. I think that the Gilbert hosted at one night and she hosted it the next night or something like it seemed like it was just a weekend thing but it was a blast and now they channel with a brought all that shit back. Wow. Is this just like the old stuff being replayed? Or is it like new content in the same vein? I believe it is new. No, gotcha. Hmm. I'm glad you reminded me of that. I'm gonna make a note and see if I can afford it. Now that I've got a new place to live. Okay, but before I do that, how about we take a little break, and then we will come back and talk about glorious snow and Irish chilly, chilly breeze. The kid with the snowman snow cone machine comes with five different flavors in the minds of the kids. Sweet. Man, no problem. You can make five different kinds of snow cones with the snow cone machine from Hasbro. We have returned and this time, Eric, the genre pick was yours. That's right. I figured summers coming. I didn't realize how hard it was coming on us. We're all hot and sticky because of it. Anyways, let's just assume that's why we're Oh my god. Can I leave? Do we quickly run? The so I think let's talk about winter movies and snow movies and what the hell? So that is what we did think cold think cold thoughts there starting with 1992 winter beast. Is this like a new release for the seven has just been released? Okay, I have heard of this, but I've never seen it here syndrome did this box set. They've actually got some other ones kind of like this. But this is a group of three films. I don't remember the other two of time I had but they're they call them local horror. So they're their homegrown horror where it's people live there made their movie and who knows what might have happened. This one is films from three different areas. And this one, I don't remember where it's from. Hopefully it's in my notes. If not, Oh, well. Suffice to say it's local. somewhere. It is I believe it might show up on YouTube in some form or another otherwise I could not find anyplace else you watch it other than vinegar syndrome release. homegrown horrors Volume One. The Rotten Tomatoes. There was no score from critics but 60 from the audience. I like that. And if you think I could find a budget or backs office for that are sorely mistaken. Remind me I think I spoke over you what's what's the year 9292? Okay, sorta that's when it was. That's when it had its first original release the Directors Christopher ties. It is only a film with a writer, Joseph calibrates. He also did a short film called the lottery, but I'm not sure if it's based on the Shirley Jackson short. And also Christopher was one of the writers starring Tamar Morgan only film, Mike Murphy, only Val Charles maka, who was a onscreen bass player for the poker King. uncredited. We got some guy who cares. seeing a trend here. I'm gonna say that the casting director was like, we got to get this guy he was in the poker King. It starts off oddly uncomfortable. So what kind of movie is this, where he's sort of sticking his fingers in and playing with the wounds on his body? And the effects aren't great, but they're effective. They're good enough to where you're like you. And so, okay, and then the first of several stop motion creatures. Oh, yes. Oh, that's exciting. That's what separates this movie. This one kind of reminded me of a flexible version of those to remember the the models the visible man and woman model. Yeah. They receive Oh, it's basically all the organs of a person and the model on the outside had clear skin. Oh, crazy, sort of look like that. That sounds gross. Yes. One of the one of the actors in this has a certain level of charm, and some talent. Oh, unfortunately, not necessarily the lead. Everybody in this movie. I love a low budget movie that's filled with sincerity where you don't where the actors and the performers don't seem uncomfortable about what they're doing. They just may not be that good at it. But they're just going for it and having fun because it's probably a whole bunch of friends hanging out just making a movie, which is large, not directly but largely what this was. They do deliver multiple deliverance jokes in the first 10 minutes. Oh god. Classy, because it is like park rangers or something now and then comes another stop motion Woods critter. This is the then it was shot in here late at so this is the we have to have a naked lady scene. So a woman takes off her shirt for some reason. And then they stop motion creature comes outside and reaches in the window. And you see that comes in. It pulls her out and then she's the clay. So good. As I was like, okay, that's great. A guy who I'm not entirely certain who he is at this point, but he's being the mayor of jaws kind of person. Well, we can't close the hill. We don't know what's going on. There's they're trying to tie it into native spirits and legends from the areas I'm not sure if these are accurate. The but they are living on the apparently the Indian gateway to hell. And I don't think Americans have a hell. That seems a little iffy to Christian health. Exactly. Which is sort of how it's made out to be more stopmotion guy this one kind of looks like a reason. But it's still awesome. And so now the mayor's like, Oh, we got it. We got to shut this down. And next it's like, okay, is this a zombie? Is this a mummy? What is this thing attacking a lady in the graveyard in the woods? who shows up for like a scene or two and is never seen again. Right? And the two guys have one of their many chats where they just sort of talk. And honestly sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's okay. Sometimes it's just expedition expedition, they just go on a talking expedition. So turns out the mayor or owns the local lodge or whatever he is I just call them the mayor. And he hired the mummies zombie thing to kill this lady and bring her back to his lodge where he strings her up. And he kind of she's got wounds actually in her torso. And he's sort of playing with those, like the guy at the beginning was like, What's going on here? Sounds like somebody's fetish. And he leaves her hanging up at what is obviously supposed to be the front desk of the lodge. And then he goes off and we have a massive lynchin style weird scene where he puts on a clown mask and he puts on this very weird children song and he's dancing around. And then the two park rangers or cops whatever they are show up and the lady is still hanging there. So they're always well something's wrong. And great little scene where they need to break a window to get into a place but as soon as he hits the window, it's obviously the door isn't even closed. The door swings open a little bit like breaking the windows. I I'm glad you kept that in. That's See what the hell's going on in the movie still something I'm thinking. And for some reason, then the guy who is wearing the mask bursts into flames. And then they go off actually really cool location. I don't know what the buildings were, but they kind of looked like early prairie living kind of buildings not early early, but from early 20th century. And then we got another stop motion critter. Now this one looks significantly better. Kinda like, Okay, this is cool. And he goes after and he kills one of them in this great little scene. And then a giant stop motion chicken shows up. Yes. Not sure why I necessary just film the chicken in a certain way in frame but I'm loving the commitment to stop motions actually. Yes. And then the the final confrontation with the final stop motion critter uses a flare gun. Like he just it's like a repeating flare gun. Almost he must shoot it like five or six times. But yeah, it seems to work. Oh, good. I did write it down. This was filmed in Newbury, Massachusetts. So that is your like, tagline when it was released on video. Evil Dead meets Northern Exposure. Um, wow. Okay. shot on 16 and eight millimeter. They there's a totem pole monster and a skeleton head that's ripped out of a man's stomach. These are both props that were borrowed from the doctrine music video burning like a frame. So somebody on the side had access to that and did something with access, rock and roll. And I was seeing the horn. Filming started in 86. But then it was kind of abandoned. Or depending on where you were you read about it either abandoned or flat out forgotten. And they shot two scenes and the rest of it was shot in 1989. Wow. Okay, you know, of course, a few days. Yeah. Which is why I think they're all friends all involved because they didn't have character changes. And then they had the same actors. Oh, okay. Apparently, they actually had sets, it looks like we have this place, let's jam a desk here in the corner. But they they got acquired the use of an old abandoned theater, and built sets to be the lodge and to be the guy's office and, and stuff. They're, they're not great. But they're, they're committed. They needed, they needed wind or something. So they've got this weird covered window and you see somebody obviously behind it moving a tree branch up and down. So the producer and director both admit, it's really hard to know what the movie is about. The stop motion act stop action was not part of the original film. And was added in when they realized many aspects of what they're shooting was just not going to work at all. The dp guy, there was an effects guy from Disney. Oh, okay. That's probably why the shooting was. I mean, there's no way you can shoot that fast. It'd be great, but it was good. Early the first day of shooting, the cast and crew were driven up in two cars. That's how big our cast was. But one of the cars got lost. And apparently the director who must have apologized profusely because they kept working on it lost his shit and attack the driver of the other car. Whoa, that's a lot of pressure. Yeah. Oh, my that's then. So the reason the chicken monster and the lizard monster at the end look better. Mike Johnson, the director of Corpse Bride made those Why? Why he was just around. He was like, Oh, you want to? I could make some way this was well before? Of course, Brian. Yeah, a long time before that. And there's a special extra feature on there of an interview with Simon Barrett, the writer of your next the guest and we got birds. What we should be because he loves this movie. Oh, my God. He said he's after a dozen watches. He's still not sure what is really happening. He makes a very compelling argument that the movie actually makes a lot of good choices for good reasons. He's right. Like, like I was saying with the branch. They said, You know what, we need this look, let's figure out how to do it. So they did it. Or the guy I want this window broken. I don't care if the door doesn't lock. Let's just break a window. It's any thing go for it. Like, I can't fault that. So having been involved in many low budget movies, he's very understanding of the people involved in making this one. They deliver what he promised and even when it doesn't really work. The film actually ends hired him to add twists and turns in the movies in any way he likes. Just because he can actually write well, they end up working. But that's it says this movie is part of the reason he loves doing twists and turns into a beast available from vinegar syndrome and probably on YouTube. This max of you picking this genre because you wanted to watch this movie, you are correct. Looking at my movies behind me or from looking at what should these have a dicey? This looks interesting. Well, to be honest, there's not a lot of winter in it. There are several scenes that are wintery, like some guy goes down a cliff that's covered in ice and like what are you doing? But is it the winter beast is more in the name, but there's still those good amount of winter and that there's enough I mean, it takes place in the winter, but there's no snow. weird, weird how that can happen in a movie. Well, it's interesting that you picked this genre, because it was perfect for my film that I've been holding on to for like, at least a year waiting for a moment to bring it out. And it has an extremely similar story behind it in that the only way to see this movie is on YouTube. There is no distribution for it. It also has no budget info and that is the 1988 film heist know I don't know exactly how I've heard of it. I know my friend Micah introduced it to me at some point. I don't know how he heard about it. It is crazy. But yeah, so Rotten Tomatoes. Unsurprisingly, no critic info. However audience score of 27% so this little engine is ready to rock and roll. I mean the cast and crew it's very like I said it's very similar to your piece in that it seems like a labor of love I don't know whose love I don't know why. There's unfortunately no vinegar syndrome treatment and I hope to god there will be one someday because I need to understand better what this is about but directed by Jeff kwitny he's mostly a writer on some kids tv stuff like he did a little bit of Animaniacs some extreme dinosaurs, minis alive street sharks and Cowan chicken he also directed which I haven't seen yet but i do now own it just arrived the other day from vinegar syndrome beyond the door three and he also did illegal alien was a on his IMDb pictures of things you should know him from. Written by Joseph Allen Johnson mostly actually did acting he he wasn't as much of a writer in fact, I believe this is his only writing credit. He did slumber party massacre. He was in berzerker grad night, hollywood hot tub and Little Big League. He stars in this film as well as the character Alex, the son of the hotel, chalet owner. So I'm wondering if he wrote this movie for himself. I kind of have a feeling he did. Produced by Michael Bieber, who also is not really a producer. He was well i mean he is but he usually does special effects producing over ILM, and he was involved in speed two, and only has three kind of producing credits that are more film films like soldiers of fortune and in broad daylight. Robert Siebert will also help produce it. And he only did this and a film called berzerker. Just like this fine crew, the cast is equally minimal. I will only mention that there's it's kind of like an ensemble, you sort of feel like you're watching an episode of friends that has gone terribly wrong is not well written and was not shot properly, as opposed to I don't have a comeback for that it's too hot just too. It was just too obvious. And there is right there. So I'm just going to mention the couple of people who had any kind of anything. Just Alan Johnson, as I mentioned a moment ago, the writer stars in this we also have Deborah deleasa as Trina the main girl. She's been in 19 films including slumber party massacre, sledge hammer, Dr. caligari and she voices a bunch of things including StarCraft Brood War. She now does occasional short film and recently was in a dock as documentary as a dominatrix. And I was very confused as to like if she was doing a recreation part or if she's just had a huge lifestyle change. We also have Doug Stevenson, who plays the prankster friend Cory. He's been in 13 things including the Prowler search for tomorrow TV series and lots of one off TV like Murder She Wrote in days of our lives. I know you think No, this one's too old. They're not hot enough. By the time the 90s roll around. Lisa Lauren Loring as Jeanette who plays the slutty, desperate friend, is just one of her last roles. She was in As the World Turns only seven episodes of that savage harbor. But really her best known role was when she was a child actor in The Addams Family as Wednesday Addams. Fun fact she does remain topless for huge portions of this movie. So when was this movie made? 1988 What What the hell's what Adams family could she had been in though? It was like an old black and white Addams Family Addams Family. She that's what it says she'd be. How old is she was she probably she could have been in her 40 years. Okay, yeah, that's tracks I didn't like I said this was when they were looking at it. I know. Okay, this is a VHS transfer on to YouTube. I couldn't tell you. It's fine. No, they actually seem they seem in pretty good shape. I highly recommend her boobs in this movie. To nipple stars. would watch her on dress again. Good job Wednesday. Don't hate it. I'm not the person who should be talking about this. I don't know what to say. She's not to the line use. I know we know that. But I can't uphold that momentum. And last but not least Dan Smith. Dan Smith plays Jeff the bad guy. He's pleased in this movie for about 10 minutes. He's been in six things. He now does bit roles including early addition hitter on the dark and he does a lot of Writing for Kids TV like get Ed Abby Hatcher and fuzzily cat. Oh, Abby Hatcher, the fuzzy catcher. The plot of this movie, as you may have guessed, is pretty exciting. Okay, it's the 80s guys, a group of friends are at a ski resort. Two guys, Korean Jeff are fighting for the attention of Trina. Now, Cory and Jeff keep going back and forth on these key races, kind of challenging each other trying to win the affections and press Trina. But unfortunately for Jeff, he keeps losing so he does one kind of final challenge to Cory. They take off, go up to the slopes and race each other again and of course Cory wins mightily. Jeff is incredibly angry. He like basically blows off all the nice gestures his friends are making like Hey, man, don't worry about it. No big deal. He's like, no, I ski deal helps you guys. I should. I'm better. I said, Frank Stallone. He then goes in a huddle is off in the corner of a bar with a drink and is talking possibly to himself, possibly just somebody off screen. We don't know he's ranting. He then decides that he is furious and in a mad rant goes off skiing in the middle of the night by himself with a storm coming in. Of course, he makes a leap off in the middle of the night of this cliff and dies on the ground below. Well Though short film four years later, yes, that's how we continue. Korean Trina who were kind of pushed together through this incident are now in love and married. They are invited to a special by special invitation to try out this cool new ski chalet is it chalet or shallow, shallow, chilly ski place would you like to open their you know, I'd like to hear your continued shallot chalet which is looking for buyers for their condo units. So they're offering for people to come on down and try it out and they're hoping to hard sell them into these units, especially people who they know are in the scheme community so they can't pass up this free trip they have no intention of buying this place but they want to get some fresh powder and bring along their flirty friend Janet aka Wednesday Adams along for the ride. When they arrive at this Shani Kondo situation, they're shocked to see their old pal Carl is their who's their kind of prankster friend. He hides in the Arctic until somebody comes I don't know how he knew anyone else was coming but and then surprises them in a very weird way. Don't worry about it. Slowly but surely the rest of their crew from that incident four years ago, arrive. Korean Trina are a boring, hot married couple who show up. Carl is just super addicted to coke and likes to prank everybody and hit on Wednesday. And Diane and john it's creepy when you say like Diane and john a married couple of trying to mend their relationship while john belittles and analyzes Diane to death. He's the psychiatrist but imagine a hot blonde guy from Baywatch. But with a sweater vest and glasses. They just dressed the teens up to make them look like old, old serious people and it does not play well at all. It really does look like somebody just shotgun blasted a costume on the all these 40 year old coke. Alright, get off the sweater vest. All right, I'm gonna be serious now. So they settle in and wait to endure the sales pitch from Alex, another hot blonde guy who's definitely not difficult to distinguish from the other hot blonde guys in this movie. He is the rich son of the chalet owner and is taking this on as a challenge to impress his father by selling all these condos and doing a good job. Most of this film is a drama soaked weekend filled with relationship woes between married couples fighting. Carl is busy trying to hook up with Jeanette Wednesday, who is really into Alex, one writer of this movie, and Jeanette is worrying about Eddie her boyfriend. Also somewhere off because he has not arrived and she thinks he might be arriving but not really sure. And Trina and Cory seem fine and boring. But of course all is not as it seems someone is watching them through broken ski goggles. We get broken ski goggle vision multiple times. So we know this is the case. We're not really sure who because they're all bundled up. This person entity is following them. They also find a sinister note in the condo, as well as a newspaper clipping from Jeff's accident from four years before the group start to question why they are all there. And when they discover that Jeff himself submitted their names to Alex, for the trial weekend, they freak the hell out. is Jeff alive? Is he here for vengeance? We'll have to find out. Edie ask you a short question. Yeah, of course. One of the ladies in this movie was in a show called How could you not mention it? I must have skimmed through that one. For some reason. There were like eight people in this movie. And none of them are really known for anything. But um, do you know which which character she was? The Deborah de Lisa? Well, appropriate because they probably were shown in this film. I don't know if any of the females remain top covered throughout the film, but that's fine. So we find out more about what is going on with this mystery killer when Eddie the abusive boyfriend that the slutty girl is trying to call and can't get a hold of is actually making his way up to their condo when suddenly he takes a wrong turn and pushes his car into a giant snow embankment. But it's okay because right off the side, there is a snowplow waiting menacingly. He's like, Oh cool, the snow plows gonna totally dig me out. I'm gonna go stand in front of it and of course the snow plow just slowly approaches him and he does not get out of the Way, and then he is murdered by the slow moving snowplow. It's a pretty majestic death, not going to live. And of course, slowly but surely, one by one. Each of these people are murdered in sort of hilarious ways. Jeanette randomly dies in a hot tub. I'm not sure why john is killed by a ski pole through the back of his neck when he gets in his car to drive away. So that's that looks really cool, actually. And my favorite murder is Diane, who is murdered by a giant icicle that's just kind of ripped off the side of a roof and just plunged into her. It's really good. Trina ends up being our final girl. And spoiler alert for anybody planning on watching this film. She ends up calling Alex for help and not 911 and not police and I don't know why. But she calls Alex the hot condo owner guy to come on down and help her out because she knows that Jeff is going to kill her next. There's no one else left alive. But of course, it's not Jeff. It's Alex. Alex, the killer. The writer of the movie, maybe is actually a triple threat. Actor, leading star writer, come on man and murder and murder always gotta love the writer director that makes himself a killer or a rapist. And it's so good. It's like, why is this guy here? Like, what is he doing? And like, why is he weirdly attractive and has a lot of lines and scenes he shouldn't have? Okay, cool. No big shakes. So what happened is Jeff, when he was angry and talking in that bar was actually talking to Alex. Alex was an old friend of him back from when he used to ski the Alps. And he actually chased after Jeff when he was in a huff trying to get away from his friends and all the night. Sorry, it was really hard to say a straight face. So he followed Jeff, as Jeff plunged off the side of that cliff, he also tumbled down and he lost a leg. So now suddenly, he has a false leg, which we don't find out about until Trina tries to stab him in the leg. And then it's like think it's just like a knife sticking out of it for no reason. And then of course, he tells us this whole story. His father lost all respect for him. And he had to make it back somehow. Which is why this whole condo thing is happening. But his dad still doesn't love him five years later. Oh, good, Lord. Yes. movie is nine years long. I know. It's incredible. So Alex is of course he makes a giant fall and dies. But five years later, we see Trina and Cory Cory somehow did survive Trina's there with him. They have their two beautiful kids making a snowman in the yard. They call for them to come into dinner. The kids turn and leave and suddenly a skier jumps out of the snowman. They were building. Freeze Frame and film. So what movie did you say? This sounds like the producers set out to make the stupidest movie ever, but then ran out of money. You know, it feels a little like that too. But I it is one of those films that's so bad. It's good. Like it is absolutely that category. Like everything is wrong. Nothing makes sense. They are all trying very hard. But it's awful. But really entertaining. Yes. But does it have a lot of Dutch angles? No. Let me get this straight at the very building a snowman. Yes. And then they get called away from and bursting out of the snowman they were building is this skiing guy Absolutely. Is the killer that it was dead for five years previous that we saw die and just laid there in the snow dead. It's the frame freeze frame that makes it all the freeze frame makes it why it's okay. I hate this episode. It's a really weird episode. I will admit that. It's like a weird dream episode. What I like about this is that it has ski racing. It's set in the 80s it has really bad at synth movies but really good deaths were really bad since movies, I'm sorry music. I would have been cool. The commitment to the busted ski goggles. POV is really strong. They like go for it and it's really bad looking. And the fake leg twist was like pure magic and I love that dislike a lot of exposition. They do spend time literally reading letters. They talk out all the facts. Alex is an incredibly bad Actor, shockingly, nothing happens for a long time. And then at the very end, you just get all the deaths piled up together. And that's really kind of unfortunate. And also, unfortunately, the deaths don't fit any of the characters. None of the deaths that happen in an interesting way for the personalities they set up. I don't know why Jeanette dies alone in a hot tub shirtless. I know I think I know why. But I mean, other than Yes, but like, she's, there's so many character build up and I'm like, why didn't you do any of that? Like, it's fine. Um, I mean, they spent a lot of time talking about who they are. I just didn't spend any time doing that tagline for this movie. A downhill vacation becomes a nightmare of terror. Get off the hill before you get arrest. And then the movie and also first he chills them. Then he kills them, which I really like except for he never chills them. So I'm not sure where that comes from. There aren't a lot of other fun facts. I have random things I found out about this written out. I will say the writer slot of this movie slash Alex Joseph Allen Johnson has the world's saddest and most honest IMDb write up I've ever seen. It just goes into about how he was a failing actor in LA. So he moved to Italy and then he ended up doing a bunch of English dubs for three years. So then he decided to get into screenwriting, which he failed that especially after iced, so he moved to Florida to take care of his ailing parents, where he acted as acted in the early bird dinner theater group, as well as starring in his own one man show as Edgar Allan Poe. He died at age 62. I don't know who wrote this, but it's so honest, real. Writing shitty movie, I wouldn't actually be that shocked if that was the case. Also, this movie appears on RED LETTER MEDIA as best to the worst on YouTube. So just be aware. Maybe that's maybe that's how I found it. I don't know. I do fully endorse us. Continuing to embrace the concept of it's so bad. It's good. Sure. We'll get a movie someday and getting it and getting out trying guys. I'm trying really hard. I just know I've seen this film at least three times. Wow. Only once sober. But man. Very good. Very good stuff. All right, and your shitty feeling? I can't wait to not ever watch out for Wednesday's tits. Yeah. You'll have to watch at least like three minutes of film on. Yeah, I hate this episode. Oh, God. These movies aren't wintery enough. My movie has snow falling in every single scene. There you go. It is from 2018 and it is called I still see you. Everyone remembers where they were that day. The day of the event. They were only 15 miles from ground zero. The event took people we cared about but it also left the part of them behind remnants. There's a lot we still don't understand. They might be playing out moments of their life in their own death. For no matter what the can't communicate with you. I can't touch What's up with you and ghost kirkley he's like obsessed with friends. I've seen you in class. You have more questions as some people seem to. You're awake. When I saw this new remnant, help me figure out who this room is. Why do you care what makes them so special? I think you might want to hurt me. Killer. We can even echo of ourselves behind these echoes they can become doorways, through which a person can reach back and touch them. I'm afraid you don't have much time. In a world where the dead walk among the living. Nothing is as it seems. Ventana budget not available but if I had to guess 20 or $30 million this movie looks like it cost a lot of money. Box Office $1.1 million worldwide that did not pay off Rotten Tomatoes critics 8% audience 55 Whoa. Oh, directed by Scott spear who has done a ton of music videos for Ashley Tisdale did Step Up Revolution yeah movie called endless which has a very similar premise to this. Okay, written by Jason Fuchs, who wrote Gee, Wonder Woman. Yeah. Oh, Ice Age Continental Drift was a producer of it chapter two and is an actor in that and 26 other film credits. Wow. And it is based on the why a novel by Daniel waters. it stirs the ridiculously attractive Bella Thorne was a singer and actress. She was in the screen TV series, the babysitter, Killer Queen and assassination nation. It also serves Richard Harmon, who was in grave encounters 289 episodes of the 100 matches what I've kind of recognized from and in a movie I'm looking forward to see and hopefully Trypticon will be showing it puppet killer. Please, is that going to scream? I'm not sure if we're going to be able to it depends on right there's it's already own. It's already got a vacation. So and then it also says Dermot Mulrooney, who you would know from young guns, my best friend's wedding, the gray 23 episodes of shameless and literally hundreds of other appearances on film and television. Okay, this is what you call high concept. Oh. I don't know how they were able to pitch this. And unless Bella Thorne read the book or something and said fuck yeah, I need to make this. we're introduced to high school or Veronica, who is sitting at the breakfast table with her parents. And her dad's reading the paper and her mom's talking to her and everything and she's in them Veronica's like, you know, we're just not gonna acknowledge that dad is sitting right here. And then he suddenly kind of disappears and whispers. Wow. And we find out the 10 years earlier, an explosion at a laboratory in Chicago where they were experimenting with a particle accelerator ends up killing 1000s and 1000s of people. But indistinguishable, indistinguishable. Vanessa, help me out here, indistinguishable from humans. There are these ghostly specters of the victims of this event. And they have begun haunting the world as what they call remnants that just briefly show up, repeat certain actions and then disappear. Whoa, that's, that's cool. The tagline for this movie is, what if your whole world was haunted? Oh, sure. What's happening is that this is the world of this movie. There's 1000s of ghosts wandering around all the time. They can't interact with us. They don't acknowledge us anything like that. You dig? I'm with ya. Okay. So now when Veronica comes out of the shower one morning and there's a ghost in her bathroom that looks at her in the mirror and then writes run in the fog on her mirror, you can understand why she's a little freaked out because they're not supposed to do this. She, Ronnie, they call it Ronnie because she's cool. Ronnie convinces this new classmate Kirk to help her figure out who the ghost is. He's super into the remnants. And he is apparently much smarter than all of the other scientists because he doesn't believe they've been telling us the truth about what's going on. Just like COVID they discover that the name of this ghost is Brian, and that he was suspected of having abducted and murdered a pastor's daughter. They visit the basler tells them she didn't know who Brian is, but adds that that next second, she doesn't know who Brian was. Oh, she doesn't know who Brian was before this, but adds that that kid Brian killed himself on the day after her daughter disappeared. So she also is of the mind that this kid killed her daughter. After receiving a phone call from the pastor, the school principal summons Kirk, the weirdo kid who knows all this stuff to his office to ask about his investigation into the girl's death. And then later at the school basketball game. Ronnie sees visions of this Brian ghost, like in the crowd looking at her and then she like, kind of rushes her way over there and he's not there. But then She sees them over here. So she's kind of rushing her way over that way. And then all sudden, the principal's body falls through the big skylight, and dead under the, under the court onto the basketball court. Everybody screaming, it's a, it's like, okay. So they end up connecting Brian to the deaths of two more young women. And through their investigation, they find out that you can witness one of these women's death over and over in the no go zone that is Chicago now where the collider was located. So that's a no go zone, people are not allowed in there, it's all chained off and everything. They sneak into the zone. And they find that this way, the movie gets pretty fucking cool for a hot second. There's just 1000s of ghosts milling about and doing like daily things and everything in there. They're like trying to wander through them and not touch them. Because every time they touch one of them disappears in a wisp of smoke. And it's it's pretty cool scene. But you also start realizing what's going on here because there's people from I guess this would have been 2008 when the collider exploded. There's people from 2008. And yet there's also people from generations earlier than that you see people from the 50s, wandering around here to in a covered wagon, and all this stuff and you realizing Oh, there's something else going on here. There's some kind of dimensional crossover or whatever. And they end up sneaking their way into this area where the girl was killed, where there's literally hundreds of real humans who have snuck in here. And this this is like live entertainment, where they all watch this girl go through her last steps that she's being chased by this killer. We never get to see what the killer is only her. It's pretty cool scene. The movie gets a very bad case of explosive diarrhea and shits the bed over and over again from here on. Kirk is taken into custody after the police find a gun in his locker. Ronnie goes to her teacher Dermot Mulroney for help and he confides that Kirk was expelled from his previous school for possessing a firearm and Kirk tres explained to Ronnie that the new gun was planted, but she doesn't believe in Meanwhile, there is now a countdown going on for some reason because the ghost of Brian is going to kill Ronnie on the certain date her birthday. Unless she can find a way to keep herself safe. And the movie just spirals into a bunch of bullshit that was like fuck for a minute. This got super interesting and then like it's really awful. right up your alley, Vanessa? t next up the ass it like teenage angst, but I don't like that movie. No, you do. Okay, let me rewind here a little bit of trivia. I couldn't find shit about this movie quite honestly. Except for that $1.1 million box office was interesting to me. It got even more interesting when I saw that the US and Canadian gross total $1,359 Whoa, opening weekend in the US and Canada $815 they didn't early and then the gross worldwide was this 1.6 million so it sold to a bunch of foreign property or distributors and then made some money over there. I don't know why it was not released here. I have a feeling that the film company or you know the distributor somebody realized what shit we have a real turd on our hands here and let's just release this straight to video and somewhere in the contract it required that it play in a theater before they could do that right? Yeah, so that's what I think you go Yeah, it could be or the only other thing I could think of is maybe a festival maybe a played at a festival and sold that much sales and tickets. It could have this does not feel like a festival film. Sure. But I suppose you know, one of the big ones was like for fantastic. Show up in the red carpet or something. Maybe I did find this interesting piece of trivia in 2019 Bella Thorne directed a short film for Pornhub why I called her and him which was a sexually explicit reimagining of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. While I could find no Rotten Tomatoes, oh my god currently has a 3.9 rating on IMDB. Our film has a 5.4 on IMDB. So we got that tonight. Oh my gosh. I actually got it. Whoa. Ah, the movie looks like a million bucks. It's competently acted. It's it's stupid. But when Has that ever stopped a movie from being released in theaters? Yeah, so it's Yeah. It's really strange. I started, it's not even like a Netflix semi hit or something. It just feels like even if it's not great, after a certain point, the premise is strong enough the act, you know, the actors are strong enough. This is one of those movies that, you know, I was just kind of mildly hating, but then actively hated when it had that cool moment and failed to follow through on that. Yeah, well, okay. I mean, we do start learning some other stuff like these. These ghosts are not just ghosts, sure, and start kind of interacting with them, things like that. So she gets a little bit of closure on her whole thing with her dad and all of that stuff. But otherwise, it's just like, boy, you had you had a chance to do something interesting with this. I wonder if the why a novel is anything like this. And if it, you know, got sold and then got torn apart and could turn into something completely different? Well, writers that didn't get credited, including Bella Thorne as well then my right how do you even pitch this movie? This is definitely high concept. All right, here's what happened. 10 years ago, the Hadron Collider explodes. It kills 1000s of people, but we see them wander around as ghosts and everything guys like wow, okay. That sounds like a great movie. No, no, no, that's not the movie. It's just the background of the movie. That's like the B plot. Really, it's about this teenage girl. Man, Bella Thorne. Okay, here you ready? Yeah, exactly. I mean, she was like, I know her from being a Disney star of a very bad Disney show with her and Zendaya. Yeah, yeah. I mean, when you look at her credits, she's got a ton of video credits with Cindy. Yeah, that would be from what that period of time as Where's India? It's like about two girls who know how to dance. But sunday i can and she really can't and it's very obvious, and it's very sad. Well, you know what? She's very pretty. She's extremely pretty. And actually she does black wig in this didn't even go far enough to just dye her hair fucking black. Weird. So I mean, it's obvious wig. Like, kay gingersnap sort of thing. Didn't didn't offer her enough money to spend six months with black hair. Probably not if she was like going to be doing something like babysitter or you know, or scream or whatever. Man weird. That was my movie. I love the sound of it. I'm really sad. I don't want to be in damaged rain as I was sitting there with the fan blowing ice up my crotch in my underwear. sweating. drinking my white wine. was fucking Vanessa. What? We we often enjoy similar movies. Kelly, you have to acknowledge that sometimes. coos picking next is picking next. See you Oh shit, or is it fun? I think it's Yeah, but I don't you would be better at explaining my topic. Oh, Micah. Yeah. All right. Charles band movies. Yes. So I am just going to go ahead and honor Mike his request that we seek out and discuss Charles ban movies. But I think we should each choose a separate one and talk about it and as our main episode, rather than just discussing one at the top. I'd like to add a another wrinkle to it. Okay. He can't be just a producer of it. What does that mean? I mean, he's directed 68 movies or something. Okay, so it has to be a directed I think that he's got to have a hand in the creation of this film. Not just throw money at it not just a Roger Corman director or writer, director or writer is fine with me. Because part of the impetus was this was the terrible movie or the terrible song that is was it his brother? Yeah, but if it has songs from his wife I would say that's a bonus Yeah, I don't think that counts Bonus points if you get whatever that I could go back and look but whatever that song was if that one appears in your movie, well done. Holy cow I like this idea. Yeah. Especially since we've kind of met what we have met Charles band and we'll have a story or two about him when we do this episode. Oh, we just put it right out there that we don't want to work with him. Should we wait to the episode? story we tell is not exactly a positive one though. I'm really looking forward to this. I cannot wait to hear your guys's one on one with Mr. Band. And because mica had suggested something like flirt with Kurt right. Perhaps this one will be bandied about out or something. But I'm gonna I'm gonna let you guys have that. I want nothing to let you have that. I'm just gonna step away. This is no longer. I don't want any responsibility for what happens next week. All right, you guys, I got to wring my balls out. So you mentioned your balls so many times in this episode. Yeah, I get it. I get it. Okay. Well, we don't have to talk about physical description. No. Next topic. I want to go home. I want to go home. Let me leave. Thank you to everyone who's participating in the value for value. That is, I mean, beyond our wildest expectations, quite honestly. And Bob sending whiskey is like, this is exactly what I'm talking. Thank God. Somebody finally figured out that whiskey as a value. We have incredible fans. We really incredible. Awesome. You just listen if you listen every week or something like that you don't show up on Facebook or anything like that. Thanks. Thanks for listening. That's all those people in Texas. Yeah. 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