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The gang digs into films that take place in primarily one location. Other films discussed include The Green Knight, The Suicide Squad, and selections from the Portland Horror Film Festival.
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Oh, sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition? To show you Strange Aeons. Welcome Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That's Vanessa over there. Hello. That makes me Kelly. You guys might recall a couple of weeks ago, I'd pulled out a, a Instagram picture of a guy who had bought the challenge talked about as being his favorite podcast or one of his favorite podcasts. And I had said, Hey, reach out to me if, if you're someone I know. And he did reach out to me and he's someone I known kind of in the Facebook circles of or and stuff like that. But he sent me a nice message saying thanks for the shout out. And he has a podcast also. You know, just like just like your mom, Vanessa has a pod. Everybody has a podcast, and I help my mom has a podcast, it's hard to download. So I listened to a couple episodes of the podcast and his name is Andrew Byers. His wife's name is Elizabeth. They've got a podcast called Friday night Fright Fest. And they kind of do a double feature thing where they talk about movies that would double feature together well, which is kind of what we were doing it with debt again at the beginning. Oh, yeah. But they're very smart. Say listeners of this show. might not look they don't mention their balls in any episode. So and Vanessa, you know how we we hire you because of your looks? Oh, yeah. His wife sounds like she actually knows what she's talking about. Oh, my God. I have a master's degree. Anyway, I enjoyed the podcast very much. The last one that I saw was up is they went through the fear street trilogy. They're, they're quick and concise or not as long as our episodes or anything like that, which makes it probably way easier to listen to than the three of us. rambling on right. Awesome. Speaking of rambling on, I don't know that's terrible segue and dry, but it's related to what you're just talking about. Jamie, but Jamie dropped us a little coin for crypto con or for crypto gone for a Strange Aeons radio. And it was on the level that I'd like to Hey, you got a movie or something you're somebody might want to talk about he had. he first came with an idea that I think is a fine idea. But it'd be too easy when Michael show because he's just like he his his theory is that Han is actually the hero of the Star Wars movies as opposed to Luke. Like, probably talk about that. But that won't take long. Like how about this Then how about an episode about either Jamie Lee Curtis or Laurence Fishburne? Whoo. Either this would be super fun. Sure. Yeah. That sounds great. I so well, Frank on that announced that at some point as one of our episodes will be doing I love Jamie Vanessa. Jamie was kind of Erica Mize. Bruce Campbell. When we first started out he was the handsome friend who could act and we just kind of put him in stuff because we didn't know anybody. So good. Okay, so he's lost his hair. But does he still have this gigantic Grizzly Adams beard going on? He does. He just has a goatee now because he had he's a massage therapist. So he has to wear a mask all the time. It's gonna be irritating. I was like, No, this doesn't work anymore. He was he was very handsome. And he had this deep sonorous voice, and I was I was just sure when he when he was starting to go bald. I was like, Jamie, all your hair is just migrating to your chin because it is true. Yes. eautiful. Very true. Yeah, he he's still any still. like five pounds away from being ripped. Must be nice. Yeah. We also got a G Hughes and Mike Davis and Jason, vice. Vice rolls off. Jason Weiss, all sent us stuff this week. So thanks very much for participating in the value for value model, which is if you get something out of this podcast and you feel like you want to give something back in return, make that something that means something to you. 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Yeah, I've seen quite a few new people new names, sharing our sharing our postings of new podcasts each week. And that's really exciting. Little battle between Ryan and Daniel and try it Ryan seems to be getting you so far. Daniel. Sharon first. I think Danny's on the road. So forgive him for that. You guys, I watched something Vanessa that you just watched. And as like, Oh, I really enjoyed it. And that was the forever purge. Oh, cool. I thought it was really strong. Oh, cool. It was nothing like the other purge movies. But it yeah, it obviously fell into that universe. So it word I thought they had some really strong actors. And some really tense scenes where I found myself, you know, just freaking out a little bit. Oh, interesting. I'm so glad you liked it. I was very on the fence as to whether or not I guess I'm saying this just because this is a franchise that is hit or miss. Mostly Miss. Yeah. And I think that this should be being talked about right now. I think it's really strong. Yeah. And it's interesting, too, because I feel like the trailer made it look pretty bad. Yeah. And I was like, Oh, I guess I'm going to see this because I'm going to see all the purge movies. And then I watched and I was like, Oh, hey, like probably my third favorite purge movie. Maybe even second. I think it was my second favorite. Nice. Your first is to write Yeah, what was your What's your favorite one is the one. I like I like one I like to, but it's almost like alien and aliens where they're certainly different players. Yeah. But I haven't seen the new one yet. Oh, I like to say much because that was where I kind of started finally recognizing Frank Grillo Oh, yeah, he this guy to be the The Punisher or something like that. So yeah, yeah. No, I agree with you. I think that I, you know, it's probably got a few problems here and there because it's trying so hard to address some pretty big topics between class relations, race relations, country relations, all seen through this lens of an event. But I really I don't think it's done half heartedly and I don't think it's stupid about the approach and I really enjoyed a lot of the ride of the film. I don't think it's about that. I think it just has it in it. Yeah, and I thought that there was some real nuance in the main in the lead character. Wow, I was like, I wasn't expecting this kind of complex of a character in one of these. Three, sir. Yeah. What about you? Um, yeah, so I actually just went and saw the new a 24 movie which Green Green Green name Yeah. Dev Patel senate and I I enjoyed it but it was not the movie. I thought it was going to be the kind of the trailer like you're just saying the trailer was bad for this one. This one was too good for the movie. It was just misleading because a lot of a 24 content that have a trailer like that are actually horror films. So hereditary or Gosh. midsummer, like this is it felt like it was gonna be like that. And it is not. It is a medieval story is a folklore story. And I don't know if any one out there has, is familiar with medieval literature and stories, but it's a King Arthur tale with a little bit of spookiness to it a little bit of indigenous to it. And I don't know, I enjoyed it, but I'm, I don't. It didn't. It wasn't what I thought it was gonna be. I was really excited by the idea of it being a horror film, so it's a little disappointed. I really like Arthurian legends. I'm curious to see that. But I would say you'll like it. And yeah, it has a lot of really interesting takes on that. The only thing that really rubbed me the wrong ways. They do do the thing where they're just a little too modern at times. You know, and you're like, I could just go full costume. You're Like almost there anyway, like, and they just upped things a little bit so it feels a little bit more relatable. But yeah, there were times where I was like, why are you wearing that shirt? That's really weird right now. I guess they had it back then they did have fruit and loo coming together. Oh, Lord. Yeah, I Anyway, I've seen on the internet a lot of hate for it though. Like I said, if you aren't into medieval lit, or any of that, like I did a whole class on it. And close though I was like, Oh, fuck, I think I studied this story. So that was really engaging and interesting for me. But if you're not into that, you probably won't like it. I'll probably okay, cuz my impression of the trailer was more that I decided that they up the horror action element, but they were telling the story. Yeah, it's the story. Okay, cool. Yeah, I saw, I mean, very mixed reviews about it. And the people who liked it, not that you're doing this at all. But the people who liked it are doing that, that nerd thing that I hate. Well, if you knew anything about Arthurian legend, I realized that this is a very, very true to the source material story. I feel a little put on the spot. But I will say it is not true to the source material. Because the source material is like three lines of poetry. It's no it's basically like, let's take this story that has almost no detail and fucking fill it in. Fill it into the brim with what we think might be interesting. who's the Director of this? This is somebody's second or third film? I cannot remember. I think that that was what drew me to it. But everything you're saying is pushing me against it, and I will just watch john Boorman's Excalibur again. I think it's really good. It's over the top. But it's a fantastic telling of Arthurian legend. I mean, speaking of double bills, just just do them back to back. Sounds great. And with Excalibur, though, your comment there about geeks in the reaction. I came across the start, or Leonard Nimoy quote today that falls right into that that I totally agree with. Canon is only important to certain people because they have to claim to their knowledge of the minutia. Open your minds be a Star Trek fan and open your mind and say, Where does Star Trek one two take me now? Oh, I love that. name was so amazing. So but what did I watch? Well, I watched a lot of Portland horror film festivals this last week. Yeah. And so one of the ones I watched was called marigold, who's how it says are modeled by it was almost really good. It's a movie within a movie, where they're got a group of people, and they're on an island and they're doing stuff. They're not doing a lot of stuff was part of the problem of the film. And then it cuts to the film crew behind and things start to go. And I wish they would have centered more around that. Because when they pull back to the film crew and the things that go on, like they have problems with seemingly military people on the island saying they can't be there. Some other things and that story is really interesting. Yeah, the story they're telling in the movie is a good short story. The I don't know it was really well shot. It's decently acted. But it was worth seeing. I'm not it wasn't annoying. Like, I know why this is a festival film. Because if you've done a lot of festivals, you understand exactly what I mean by that exactly what you mean. But it's, it was worth saying. I was glad I saw I think Portland did a pretty good job. I can't believe they did nine days, then Whoa. So I didn't watch everything they had. But I was working on the film festival circuit kind of times during the planning and stuff. So I would open a window and have their festival playing on the side. It was my podcast, I guess for this week, which worked most of the time, except you know, it's a foreign film. Yeah. Okay. gotta read for a little while. Yes, I actually know that life because we're coming putting together the Anderson Island Film Festival, yes, third version of it. fourth year of trying to do it. And I was also spending the week watching a lot of films that are not relevant to this podcast, and trying to do work at the same time and be like, depressed constantly. All the films ever suggested I was like, I just want to like curl up in a ball and die. That that goes to when somebody sees a movie in the theater, like I was behind a couple of john. Well, not john Carter of Mars, but that's what I call it but And they stood up and said, that's the worst movie I've ever seen. I'm like, wow, you have seen what, three, four films. In the last two films. I saw what jaws and the Godfather, and this is definitely any movie that gets any kind of release. is not as bad as movies can get. Yeah, I don't care who releases it. Any movie that gets some kind of release? Did you stand up and hand them a copy of our movie? You should try this. We got a release. Now reflectable I don't know. Okay, well, I'm a little surprised. So this first round when is nobody going to talk about the elephant in the room film? Um, depending on what elephant you're talking about. Did we have not seen you haven't seen Suicide Squad? I did see it. Well, Vanessa. Eric suck. So let's talk. Yeah, man, what did you What did you think? I mostly liked it a lot. I thought it had some really great moments in it felt very James Gunn's in to me, yeah, that was exactly what I said. When I left. I was like, this is a real James Gunn picture. More so than like Guardians of the Galaxy. Which rally his touches. But not his. There's like a big sickness. There's like a safety net. For galaxy. Yeah, I did see. I did see a screenshot of something shark does at one point have gone. Alright, they they've upped the violence. I see. A gory they apparently gave him carte blanche on who can live and die in this film. Wow. Okay, that guy's kind of a major person. I'm surprised he's gone now. So yeah, I liked it. I I didn't like it as much as the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Yeah. But it definitely felt more like he had control of this film. Yeah, it felt like dark DC, which I am a huge fan of Yes, push it towards weird and interesting places. That's what the comics have been doing. And I'm all in. I thought that the fascinating thing about it to me was I was a little bit taken aback that there was almost no first act. And I think the reason why there's no first act is because we already know as audience viewers we've already seen the other Harley Quinn movies we know who will lie these characters are we saw the other horrible Suicide Squad and I feel like he's just like, don't worry about it, you already know of us. So let's just jump into the action. There's a little bit of setup that you get about various characters. But they're it's it's quick and it's dirty. I think they were done basically with the intros within about three or four minutes in I think I remember looking at it by watching Oh, yeah. Okay, we're done with that, as opposed to first Suicide Squad movie, which was like 45 minutes in or whatever. Oh, I guess we should make a movie now. But yeah, and then they kind of feed you a little bits of information throughout the rest of the film, but there's no, there's no initial setup in the way that you expect. Spider Man movies need to figure that one out. Yeah, I've definitely seen as James got. I don't I haven't seen the other two. I have no desire to see either. Suicide Squad are birds of prey. James Gunn, I'm gone. I've been watching him since Romeo and Juliet. So I will definitely see that you should check it out. You should absolutely check it out. Did you see it in the theater then? I did. Okay. I just took advantage of it being on HBO. Max. Oh, sure. Yeah. I wish I could have seen it that way and decided I wanted to get the hell out of my apartment. Sure. Man already know he went with me. We're both tired of the apartment. We're trying to make it look good. And that's exhausting. I don't know what you're talking about. I see you have the exact same problem as I do right now. Just looking around. I'm like, Oh, yeah, you're hanging art. I just spent a day hanging art too. Yeah, it sucks. Yes, it does. That's died from Suicide Squad. The other elephant in the room that we're obviously all on the edge of our seats about escape room two. I keep forgetting that. That's out. I really want to see it but I don't know if I want to see it. I've actually liked the first time I did okay, that's probably why I don't necessarily need to see sequel to it but you tell me cuz I think we had the same problem with the end of the first one probably. Um, you know what, it is a fun roller coaster ride with very little plot. Like if you wanted to see more rooms and more weird as shit in the rooms. This movies for you. All right, this is what I liked in the first one. So yeah, the it's not really about any thing else. They shoehorn a plot in a Little bit, but it's not. It's like movies. It's 100%. Like, okay, this is this room. Okay, this is this room. And the major problem I have with this one is the pacing at which they murder the various participants feels extremely off. Yeah, like people die really quickly and then not for a bit and then really quickly and you're like, the character development is literally one sentence per person. This guy used to be a priest. This girl is famous on Instagram. That's all like, that's all you get. And then you're like, well, am I emotionally attached to these people? I don't know. But it was fun. I would recommend seeing if you just want to put your brain on pause for a minute. So a theater Yes, you've got the past or something again, right. And you're just like I got I used up all my boyfriend does have the past and I just mooch off of it. So it's like 15 bucks or something for us to see it. So it's it's pretty cheap. Oh, cool. I'm going to briefly mention one and then I'll talk about something much better okay. Wrapped up the police academy movies with a mission to Moscow. Oh my god, and that I can see why that killed this already not very good franchise that at least before had you know some funny shit in it. This one was just wow, it's bad. Tell me from the original cast of police academy. Who is this game that makes the noise? The and the Hightower not Hightower? Because as Bo Smith, the gun nut and the lady with the boobs are the only three left at this point. The lady with the blonde? Yeah, okay. She's got like three or four shots where she walks into the room and you see her walking into the room before you see her. Oh my god. It was a very obvious setup to show. Jesus. But yeah, the lady with a small voice has gone Gutenberg has been gone for movies Baba has gone man. That's rough. How the mighty have fallen. Oh, no. They tripped A while ago. They fell. But the long stumble what I did watch. That was awesome. So I finally finished up evil season two. Oh, season two finished. The last one that I watched. Which I think must have been last Sunday's was the you know, they do the previews at the end. Yeah, said coming back. Well, August 29. So it's like, half season highest. I am behind you then. Because I have not seen that episode. So good. Series. Good. Yeah, they took they took all the stuff that was working in the first season and threw away all the shit that wasn't Yeah. and added in a great sense of humor. Yes. It's it's not as creepy, usually. But when it goes for the creeps, it still can pull it off. And just some of this shit the new non Hello, Lady nine is an awesome addition to the show. And that's Andrea Martin from sctv. That is initially familiar, but Anne looked her up. She's I've never seen her in a dramatic role. And she's like, my new favorite person in this show. And I'm glad they're not overusing her. Yeah, another user for really cool shit, but not just let her be. But yeah, it's all smart. It's all interesting. Yeah, so highly recommended. Man. You're right on that one. That is so damn good. Good. Andrea has that one scene with the holy water then I was just very pleased, right? Yes. Yeah, I was like, Okay, I don't know how far behind it is. But that was awesome. Man, guys, I gotta catch yourself. Actually, I am running out of things to watch. I'm like, really, really trying to scrape at the bottom of the barrel of this board put on evil. You know, it's the first episode of the first season is amazing. Well, I'm about halfway through the first season. But I'm burned out I think that's what happened. Like it was a little but then it gets a little sloppy but it gets better at the end of season one and then it gets really season two is really good. But you're right they kind of introduced stuff towards the end of season one that they have completely jettisoned. Yeah, to the second. Wasn't this going? No mention of it now? Do you ever mind? Hey, if it doesn't work, I'm thrilled that they cut it because there's there's just stuff in there that I like a lot, but there's plenty that makes me go I don't know if I want to watch another episode right now. So cool. Well, cool. How about we take a little break, guys. And when we come back, we're going to be talking about films that take place in one location. Guess what? Can you keep a secret? Maybe what is it? Can we see? Isn't that neat? What is it? I didn't know that I found it first. So it's mine. What's that up there is that she's? Could be, it sure looks like something to eat, doesn't it? I wonder how this works? If you don't know what it is why, what's wrong? I'm not sure. I just think that if we don't really know what it is, we shouldn't touch it. It might hurt us. Well, then what should we do? I know that some things are okay. And some things are not. And I think if we don't know, we should ask somebody who knows about stuff like this, like mom or uncle friend, or somebody else we trust. We don't have to be afraid. But we do have to be careful. Just because somebody leaves something lying around. Doesn't mean it's okay for us to play with. Well, I found it I get to tell furry Leave me. Message from concerned children's advertisers. This was your sub genre. Yeah. Why don't you tell us again, what this is really all about? Pretty much the idea is just one room one or one small kind of smallish location. And, you know, if you got to travel to get there something that's understandable. believe this was suggested by a couple of like, maybe even a year or so ago by one of our listeners in Hong Kong. Oh, really? If my memory is correct on that, thank you. If not, well, thanks for this. Awesome I didn't know we had listeners in Hong Kong. Yes, we do. Oh, hello Hong Kong. So and the other reason for this is because I was shut down using the movie to talk about whatever other side x sorry. Okay, I wanted to actually see that movie and it didn't quite but now I've seen it so. No, okay. Yeah, I guess you can talk about no All right. Thank you. So the movie I picked was 2010s. Barry. In a coffin in the ground. Yes to help me. How did you end up? My convoy was ambushed. I got hit in the head. I blacked out. That's the last thing to remember. And then $5 million probably wants to die here. Okay, mister. Money. I need more time. On the honey out here. held up man. I have not seen this guy. This is Ryan Reynolds. Okay, pretty much Ryan Reynolds. Okay. It's a rental available for rent Rotten Tomatoes critics at 87. Audience at 75. So well liked. budget was proximately. Two to 3 million. And then who you talked to? He didn't do great in the US and only did a million here but worldwide to 19. Oh, so it definitely made up for America. Directed by Rodrigo Cortez, who's done red lights the contestant and down a dark Hall in Spanish director writing credits Chris Brown Sparling, who did an Uzi at the Alamo, which I kind of want to see what that's all about. ATM, which I have seen and I think buried is definitely a step up from ATM. Okay. And he's got two in pre production right now. So Ryan Reynolds, heard of him? Who's this guy? While he's done a lot of TV. I've seen him on those phone ads that's probably best known for blade Trinity and the Amityville Horror remake. Which he had a fantastic beard. there he's currently in pre production for roomette remake of clue. I'm curious how that's gonna turn out. You're saying I wonder if he if he be playing that Tim Curry role that might be fun, but I don't know. Also, these couple of people are mentioned here. You never see. He is the only way you see one other face but his is the only physically present person you see in the entire movie. Louise garcy Perez was in ways too. Forever Queen's Woolf and Robert Patterson. Vous red lights nocturna as few other names like Stephen, well, Stephen tobolowsky, you know, right, right, right, right, right. From Groundhog's Day, Silicon Valley 277 credit. So you add he's actually distinctive enough in his voice that when he talks he Oh, there it is. And then Samantha Mathis, who was the lead female and Pump up the volume, clove hitch killer, Super Mario Brothers. Also very recognizable. But again, these are all just voices with Ryan Reynolds, the only Scarface The only screen presence you get. It's got a neat opening credits, I think, psychologically kind of sets up the movie in an interesting way. Very heavy, like 60s, graphic style, but late 60s, kind of heavy graphics look, but the whole thing is going down. And at times, you see like you're going through dirt or something, but the entire opening credits make you feel like you're going down. For those very smart. Part of the reason I really liked this movie is because to that point, Ryan Reynolds is sort of just been this goofy little goof, goof ball. He was the guy who was in the movie that said all the one liners and did all the shit like that. He's a badass actor in this movie. He is so fucking good. From start to start to finish, he is just he is the reason the movie works. If he wasn't any good, this movie doesn't work at all. So after the credits roll, it goes to complete darkness, then you kind of start to hear a little noises and things and it opens up with a real close shot on his eyeball with a Zippo lighter, leaving the scene up. It looks very cool. This is not for anybody who's claustrophobic. Oh, Lord, no. The movie runs about 10 minutes before anyone says anything. Cuz you know who's he's going to talk to then spent, there's plot wise, there's not a lot of talk to but there is a lot of information. As far as notes I'm sure we all get to. But he spends most of time trying to the beginning of the movie trying to figure out what's going on where he may be, while healthy in a coffin. He has a phone that works, which I'll get into in the notes and trivia. And he does explain that he's doing a little bit of it. He's a civilian contractor in Iraq, whose convoy was attacked, starts trying to call people and doesn't go particularly well, his frustrations and things. And basically, the movies, a lot of him trying to get out. Some means that one of the amazing things this film does is pull off keeping all that shit suspenseful for 90 minutes. It's a fast moving film. It feels like a lots going on, even though Very little is going on. There's a snake part that comes in that is a little weird, but well done. And that's pretty much where I stopped talking about the movie. I'll dive into the notes. Because the story is it's all about revealing what's going on. And that's part of the fun of the movie is just figuring out what's going on how he ended up there. Trying to talk to FBI people trying to talk to his home office. Are you satisfied with the reveal then? Oh, yeah. Okay. The reason he's in there is somewhat obvious, but the way it unfolds is like, Oh, well, that's not nice. It was 17 days shoot in Barcelona shot in order, which makes sense for the film, especially since he was constantly banging and burning himself throughout the thing. With the Zippo lighter and running it pounding against the walls, so those bruises make sense. As he's going along. The screenplay was part of the 2009 blacklist was not doing well. The writer had finally decided to do it. I'm just gonna get $5,000 together and make this movie. Brilliant script for a $5,000 film. But Rodrigo Cortez came across single, I'll do this. This is a great script. Let's work on that. Then Ryan Reynolds signed on the gut, depending on where you read either two or $3 million to get the movie made. Ryan Ryan became claustrophobic towards the end of the film. As things continue to go on and feel tighter and the movie feels Mark does a great job of making it more claustrophobic as he moves along. The only film I feel that compares to this is descent. I've seen a lot of films not a lot but three or four other films that play off this claustrophobia idea. Like there's this one called crawling I think, or a woman's just keep crawling through tighter and tighter spaces and at some point it just becomes this this no longer claustrophobic. This is just dumb. But that this movie does not have that problem. Reynolds described the last days of shooting unlike anything I've experienced in my life, and I never ever want to experience anything like it again. Oh my gosh, they built seven coffins for film, one was called the Joker, because it was their wild card, you could remove walls, you cheat from any angle, you could do all kinds of stuff that it was built for the sound is probably the most used. coffin lifted about 35 inches off the ground so the crew could work at a regular level. That's nice. They also have the tunnel, which is a longer designed built to give perspective on so they can pull back and show his body Long, long body in the coffin. And one called the wall which I think is only used once has giant walls on the sides where they just do a shot that pulls up and up and up. And it just looks like the coffin walls keep growing with as it goes up, the 360 rotating takes can move around and kind of create the illusion that the camera can see through the walls in certain environments and was just all around useful. The others were not mentioned in the making of why you say you have seven and all they talked about for he was Reynolds was he'd spent hours in the coffin which is why he got that he banged his head bruises body scratch skin up countless burns from the Zippo lighter because they took the lighter and amped it up. So the flame on the Zippo is much larger than regular Zippo lighter. Okay, here's the big problems that people that didn't give it a good rating had that I'm not going to tell you, you're wrong, the that he can make calls. And even there's points where videos are sent him to and from the representative from a combi from Xi'an is the largest wireless network provider in the Middle East and Africa says that the coverage is possible. If he's not buried too deep, if he's buried less than six feet, the signal can go that deep into the dirt. And so it's very completely completely workable. As long as you know you're not buried out in the middle of nowhere. And he has is within six feet. The the Popular Mechanics actually did an article on the science and debunking the people complaining about what was well it was dumb. But do you think I can't even get a signal in a subway? Yeah, cuz you're under concrete. Under Dirt, dirt is not a solid mass. It's very, very pliable, you know, may have probably wouldn't have as good a quality as he had. I mean, these are some crystal clear calls, it probably would have, you know, taken longer to send those videos than is represented in the movie. But again, still would work. Let's see, the other side is what do you have movie? Or would you have movie? Would you have air after that time? Yes. Apparently you could maybe there were some studies done that were rather distasteful and disturbing, involving animals, shall we say, then, like the 1800s to test how long somebody might survive in an enclosed area like a coffin, six feet underground. In theory, he could last the 94 minutes of the movie, not necessarily likely, the Zippo taking oxygen would not be significant enough to really make that much difference apparently, for the breathing. The bigger problem would be the co2 buildup from his exhaling. So that but it is at least it is at least plausible that he could survive. So the the movie occurs in real time, then yeah, okay. We all know you've all heard those stories of somebody who survived this amazing things. And, you know, 90% of the time, they probably would have died. But this is plausible enough that he could have survived that 94 minutes. So tell you the bunkers. You're on. met the film held up so well. I was worried I wasn't gonna psych. Okay, maybe it's just because I was so surprised by Ryan Reynolds actually acting that I just was blown away by that. Nope. suspense is still good. And most, like I said, an amazing pace. Is the roller coaster ride of following an actor works really well on this one. He doesn't seem to get when he gets angry. You're completely on board is like, yeah, I can see why you're angry right now. And then when he calms himself down, it's like, all right, okay, you're doing the right thing. It just works. It's really really well done. At one best European feature film of the year at some strausberg Film Festival. So Ryan Reynolds won the Fangoria chainsaw Award for Best Actor wow that year. Many different festivals and some larger like Spanish. Not Oscars, but like maybe Golden Globe kind of awards, at nominations and nine winning wins. For various things, including the film itself, writing, directing, editing, acting and the score, were all nominated or won. The score is really good because it's incredibly subtle. Which if it wasn't one mark in this film Hey, Roger Ebert liked it. I take back everything you said about you getting cancer 3.5 out of four stars, since the director behind the Spanish filmmaker behind this diabolical Hitchcock influitive narrative stunt makes Mary mischief with Carrie ankles and lightning. Which is true. Peter Travers of Rolling Stone howevers an idiot. The film two out of five stars, 90 minutes of being buried alive with Ryan Reynolds. Did we suffer that in the proposal? Oh, yeah, that's not even a good joke. I come on man. Peter Travers is a piece of shit who gets paid for his reviews by the studios. And if they don't pay him, he doesn't give them a good reveal. Oh, I see him rate real terms of a movie and it says a delight. Travers Rolling Stone. They gave him money. I can completely understand that. Because anytime I've run into him is usually those kind of ones because it's trying to be clever. And he's not. He's a piece of shit. But other than that, I have no strong feelings about pain. Very nice. So that was my movie. What did you have an asset? Wow. Um, I went with a different film, but not quite as claustrophobic. Many, there's a lot more room to move at least elbow room if nothing else. And I went with a film that's a little bit more popular. I'm sure quite a few people ended up seeing it, but I hadn't seen it. Which is 1408 You're not going anywhere. You're staying right here with us. When Mike enslin lost his daughter. the afterlife became his obsession. You probably want to hear all about our haunted history. But after years of searching, he no longer believes what you're saying. There's no such thing as ghosts. I'm saying I've never seen what nothing would make me happier than to experience a paranormal event. Gerald Nolan manager of the dolphin if I can just get the key to 14. The 95 years of the hotel's existence there have been 56 deaths in 1456. No one's ever lasted more than now. First victims to Kevin O'Malley cut his own throat. Do not stay in that room. hotel rooms are a naturally creepy place. It does have the vague air of medicine more than an hour to try higher. What I'm seeing is that real? estate is real estate seems based on a story by Stephen King. Did you have cups? Empty? I'm gonna die. I warned you about 1408 Thank you. directed by Michael hafstrom. So I assume you both have gone by I like this movie. Yeah, me too. Okay, cool. It's I do neither of you know if Stephen King actually likes it. Oh, I don't know about that. Stephen King likes everything. Yeah, that's made out of his. I feel like that's not true at all. He's fine with it all. I think he just kind of goes, Oh, you know, that's their take on it. And you have the like blade 80s and video and stuff. The Stephen King likes this movie thing really began to mean absolutely nothing. Oh, sorry. I think that I'm definitely seeing that. On a few comic books like Stephen King thinks it's good like, Okay. Well, this film has a Rotten Tomato score whether or not Stephen King liked it, of 79% critics and 61% audiences. So not a huge favorite. But you know enough people seem to like it. It's not 35% the budget was 25 million. And the box office was 133 million. Nice. So it did good. Really interesting crew behind this. The director was Michael hafstrom, who's Swedish. So hasn't done a ton of American projects. He's actually only directed 20 movies, including 2000 threes evil 2011 the right I was like, you're only and then you say like 30 films or 20 movies, only directed 20 movies. Okay, it's only 42 years old. I only had time to direct 30 you know, I guess because we have so many actors that are like 175 I think the numbers in my head just start to go. You've been in 11 or you've directed you've produced I don't know, man. That's more it is more than I must be uncomfortable there. Oh, on your 11th film. Rough. Basically, you want to go and learn how to make shoes because Donald Pleasance has done over 250 movies, what do you reckon director Fein will a movie that you would have heard of that he directed was a state plan. He also writes a lot of Scandinavian television which we know nothing about soundscaping writers This is based on a Stephen King short story, which I'll get more into later. Matt Greenberg, who did Children of the Corn three prophesy to Halloween h2o, we're gonna fire end the 2019 Pet Cemetery. And then you have this sort of rating team of Scott Alexander and Larry Kerr is that Kurowski man, there's not enough vowels in that they did together. Ed Wood people vs. Larry Flynt man on the moon. big guys goosebumps Holy cow. Yeah, the difference between those two writers credits is kinda phenomenal You know, I think they must have been bouncing off each other. They must have all brought something to the table already we're bringing in the writer Children of the Corn three you guys people first play flinches I do any problems. Yeah, I do wonder if somebody was brought in to be like we got me this more Hollywood but or less Scandinavian. That's extremely possible. This film stars a couple of cool, cool cats. We've got john q sack as our hero. He's been in 89 projects only and I know right? Work harder. That is because while he started off strong 16 candles but our off dead stand by me one crazy summer say anything. We got to the 90s and there was a bit of a lull. He I think pissed off too many people. So we got a lot of small roles, basically is nothing parts until Grosse Pointe blank. And then Connor Anastasia, started getting his ass back up again. And then some more bad rolls in there only time. So this more people off again. And then he made another resurgence with Hot Tub Time Machine and he's been having quite a bit of work since then. He currently stars in utopia. Does he have a bad rep? I think so. He had a horrible alcoholic. He kind of screwed himself out and then he moved away. And Hollywood just took a break and gums are sober and that's when it came back. And the bad films he's making now are all his production company. So he makes them for a small amount of money sells them for a lot of money on overseas and so he's doing just fine don't worry about Junkers Well, I mean, he's been an 89 thing so I wasn't super worried but I was just like why are you playing like police officer after you were in say anything but all right. We also have in this film total surprise to me. I guess I didn't look at the cover the box cover of the movie of Samuel L. Jackson, who's been in 195 things. Finally somebody is a little clever. He plays the hotel manager of said 1408 fame. But you might know Samuel L Jackson from Marvel's Iron Man or Iron Man two Marvel's Thor Marvel's Captain America First Avenger, Marvel's The Avengers 123 and endgame. Marvel is Captain America Winter Soldier. It does, it does go on, but I do like that he's in Marvel's Disney Infinity Marvel superheroes video game, and he will be in some of the what if episodes. So that's exciting. He's also you might know him as an angry scary black gentlemen that a lot of people like to typecast in their films primarily turned Hina is my favorite angles were angry swear a black person. He's mind two. Really, really funny a lot when a whole ridiculous fan base demands that you change the rating on a movie to so we can say fuck, and they do it. I don't know how we've been blessed with Samuel L. Jackson. But we are a lucky we're living in a good time people. I agree. And we also have not, you know, there's not a lot more people because of I think the nature of this challenge ends Lynn's wife aka john Cusack, the main characters wife is played by Mary McCormack, who's been in 70 things. I didn't recognize her at first, but she's in plain sight 61 episodes. The Kids Are All Right TV series, but I did recognize her from West Wing. She's in 48 episodes of that as well as capex and deep impact. She does a lot of stunts on TV. But maybe our viewers know her from our viewers. our listeners know her from Scooby Doo WrestleMania mystery voicing Miss Richards. And last but not least Tony Shalhoub, 104 credits, he plays the book publisher. You might know him as monk, or from marvelousness males little as the dad or Galaxy Quest or apparently Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles a splinter the most recent one. Oh, yeah. So the story follows. I almost was wondering whether or not it would count, but I'm just gonna go with it. Michael, we follow Michael enslin, who is a cynical author, who has long ago sold out originally who is writing these really beautiful personal pieces. And now he is pushing out these top 10 ghost novels and guides. It's all about like top 10 ghosts in the east side of the country, top 10 ghosts and hotels and over here seaside hotel, it's just that kind of crap. But one day, he receives a really interesting postcard that says, Don't enter 1408. And on the flip side, it shows a picture of the dolphin hotel. So he immediately is like, Fuck you. I will attempts to book a room at the dolphin. And they refuse. They say he cannot ever rent such a room. He keeps saying what about Wednesday? What about Friday? What about next month, what about next year and they're like, nope, booked his publishing house who gets excited about the idea lawyers up and manages to twist the arm of the hotel company. And they are forced to let him have the room. Now the hotel manager who he meets when he arrives Samuel Jackson, who is Gerald Olin, does his best to discourage him and says no one has lasted more than one hour in this room in the last 95 years. He makes when when they clean up the room, he makes his maids go in shifts in pairs. They keep the door open the whole time. They have a time limit. And even then he's had a number of them have issues including one that gouged out her own eyes. The Count currently is 56 deaths. Many are quote unquote, natural, but not really, like very healthy people are having heart attacks in this room. One person drowns in this room, which seems impossible. I'm not quite sure how that happened. He also offers enslin a really expensive old bottle of whiskey from the 30s. And he's like, Well, how about you have this? What about this? instead? You're a writer, you like to drink a bottle of whiskey, and insulins like, No, but I will take a glass to drink. And then he's like, how about this huge book and he like kind of puts down this tome of every single person who's died in it with info about who they are and their backstory. So basically enough to write this book, as well as saying, you can have the room next to 1408 which is identical. And he's he's just really like, Fuck, you know, I'm even more determined and really digs his heels and so Samuel Jackson takes him up to the room, will not ask it exit the escalator escalator elevator and gives him the bottle of whiskey and says Well, good luck. And I do like there's a moment where he he basically basically says, I don't care. Whether or not you survive the night, I just don't want to clean up the mess The next day, because it's, it gets gross. Really, really interesting setup we see earlier in the film ends Lynn and a different hotel, you know where there is supposed to be this crazy ghosts up in the attic. And he just sits there and he's bored and there's nothing to do and he just walks around and you know, so they set up this idea of, he doesn't really believe in ghosts, he's never seen a ghost. So he gets into this hotel room and he's like, I don't know why the fuck this is a big deal. He like throws his stuff down, gets his recorder out, just starts kind of talking aloud about what he sees. He makes fun of the paintings in the room and the decor. Really nothing. Nothing happens for a while. But then out of nowhere, the clock radio starts blaring, the song we only have, we've only just begun by the carpenters. And it has a digital display that pops up at 16 minutes and begins to count down. At this point, Mike starts to experience drain shit. I think it starts off really, really creepy. It's really small stuff like he'll turn around and there will be mints on his pillow. There weren't mints before. The bed goes from being made to unmade to made again, there's a lot of reflective materials in this and I almost didn't want to pay too close attention because I didn't want to see things change or move. Like this is a detail fucking oriented film. And when I talked about the trivia we'll we'll get more into that. But it's, it was really creepy. And you as an audience member are seeing things also that he does not see. Mike starts to think that's nice fucking with him. He runs around the room with his recorder going all right there. I think they must have been in the closet here and then run around the room because it's the circular room. And then they got out here at this time. And man, what a What a great show you guys are putting on what you this is a lot of fucking effort. And he's just talking to himself basically the whole time. However, things start getting weirder. He opens a window, he has this window open and they're up like on the fucking 13th 14th floor. And he just has this window open the whole time. I'm like, dude, you're gonna fucking die on this window for sure. Like, you cannot just be like, I'm up here and people are telling me I'm gonna die and it's fine. I'll have this window open, no big deal. Whatever. So at one point, the window does make a guest appearance by slamming down on his hands. He's now bleeding runs over to the sink throws it on and hot steaming air water boiling comes down on his hand. He's like, Fuck, perhaps. He calls down. He's like, Alright, I give up. I'm ready to go. I'm ready to check out. And it seems as though the phone and the operator are no longer part of the hotel. It's something else entirely. He tries to leave the room, the doorknob falls off. And shit gets crazy, like crazy crazy. Like it just gets it does escalate efforts, you're seeing ghosts, then the room is drastically changing. The paintings at one point start to manipulate the room almost like vengeance against him making fun of them. There's like a picture of a ship at sea. And it becomes then a torn ship that's like a wild storm. And then all of a sudden there is huge quantities of water just in the room and he is almost drowning. So it gets pretty nuts in there. Nice. He tries to find a number of ways of escaping, of course, but none of them are really working. However, he does manage to use the internet. I love it. It's early internet films so good. He gets on to like really early Skype with his estranged wife, he contacts her. She says, What the fuck are you doing in New York? You didn't tell me you're here and then followed up with Fuck, I'm coming. And he then says no, don't come. But his picture his little icon on the screen says yes, please come like I need you here right away. I really need your help. And he's like, No, I'm not saying that. The resorts to argue themselves. Um, this has a lot of crazy shit happen. It has the thing where you're not sure whether or not he gets out at one point, which is really fascinating. He he writes the entire novel of what happens in this room while he thinks he is out. Like he lives like several weeks of life, and then discovers his thought out. So when you do get to the end of the film, you really aren't sure what's real. And I think that's because he's not sure what's real. I don't know if that's really based in like, haha, we're filmmakers and we tricked you. I think it's a lot more trying to give you the psychological state The things I liked about this movie is those scary parts gave me the shivers, which is rare for me with horror films at this point, mostly I'm just like, ah, and that's about it. There's this constant maze going on the mentality. The circular room is played really well. I like him walking around yelling at the ghosts and talking about how it's not real, because that's totally what I do. I'm like, this is really dumb. This is not real. I'm going to talk to myself the whole time, because then I'm less scared. I like that when he returns to the real world at various points, it always feels off. That's really really nice. Samuel L Jackson's fucking fun. He's really fun. He plays a great character in this because I think I'm so used to seeing him as like the loud big personality seeing him as more of a like distinguished manager, who's just like, Hey, dude, I'm gonna be real with you about this. This is fucked up. He just gives that roll a lot of life. And I am short little spoiler here, sorry, guys. In one of the times, he thinks he's gotten out. Um, there's amazing moment where he's in the post office. And all this, there's construction going on inside the post office. And this is when he's like, going to mail his manuscript off to his publisher. And all of a sudden the construction workers start breaking the walls and bringing it down and the walls of the hotel are just behind the bricks of the post office and they're ripping up the floorboards and it becomes the floor of the hotel. It's really cool. really fucking cool. The things I disliked I felt like it kind of really shifted gears of what kind of horror it was just by going from that small creepy, in silliness to big bombastic moments. There's a lot about his family, but I don't know if it works or not. They tried to pull some heartstrings about a sick daughter and I just wasn't super feeling it. It felt a little bit manipulative. And also his wife comes to his rescue way too quickly. For like, in a strange, we haven't talked in a long time, and we are not on good terms. wife. She was just like, oh, I'll be right there. Wow. All right. You're a really nice person. Um, there is a shit ton of trivia about this movie. So I'm going to try to keep it lighter. But I think because it's based on a Stephen King book. This The biggest thing is this has fucking easter eggs all the way through tons and tons and tons of Stephen King easter eggs. So just for example, in the movie, Mike enslin says into the recorder, hotel rooms are just naturally creepy places, don't you think? I mean, how many people have slept in that bed before you how many of them were sick, how many of them were losing their minds, which is what Stephen King wrote in his explanatory note of 1408 in a compilation of book compilation book of his short stories, it's stuff like that it's really all over the place at the book signing that we see early on, Mike writes, stay scared in there, which is a phrase that George A Romero says all the time and he was really good friends with Stephen King. So like the connections get crazy, like some of them are really distant some of our are really close for one of the first victims of the room was named Grady Grady was a character in the shining. There's things like people's clothing people things people say all throughout the whoever wrote this was the biggest fucking Steven. Unreal. And the tagline for this movie, the dolphin hotel invites you to stay in any of its stunning rooms, except one. Just pretty clever. The story in which this film was based was almost never written. Stephen King originally created the first few pages of 1408 for his nonfiction book on writing as an example of how to revise a first draft. The story however, intrigued him and he wound up not only finishing a complete draft, but he adapted it for an audio book compilation of short stories. The initial story inspiration for 14 a 1408 came from a collection of real life news stories about world renowned para psychologic heterocycle psychologist Christopher Chaconne who investigated the most notoriously haunted hotel rooms in the world. He had visited hundreds of hotels from New York to San Francisco. Keanu Reeves was initially attached to play the lead in this role. This is the second time john cusec appears on a Stephen King film adaptation The first being stand by me then him and Sam Jackson appear in the adaptation of the cell 2016 so bad. I'm trying to remember if I've seen this all it's beautiful. Okay, I thought when I talked to arias is a beautiful I thought it was very low budget and I think it was one of a company I think there's two All you're thinking of the cell, you Vanessa are talking about cell. Yes, that's exactly right. So it was it's pretty neat room of 1408 is a set and almost all the footage you see of places like the city was all front purchased from Getty images.com. Very nice touch there early again, early internet. There are many references to the number 13. Throughout this movie, it's nauseating. First of all, if you add up one, four and eight, which is from 1408, it equals 13. The room is on the 14th floor and the hotel skips the 13th floor so the room is technically on the 13th floor. Uh huh. How crazy. The rooms keylock also has six to one, four etched on it what's at which adds up to 13. And the first death was in 1912, which adds up to 13. The hotel is mentioned to be at two to five for Lexington street in New York City. Guess what that adds up to 1413 Oh, damn. I know. So close math is not my strong. You know what I didn't check the numbers, but I'm just going to assume on that one. I didn't I didn't bother with it. However, the bottle that Gerald olan offers Mike enslin is named lesin, Kwan cept, desis. And French It literally means the 57 deaths. And just afterwards we learn that in room 14 808 there were only 56 deaths, which assumes that perhaps he will be the 57th I'm not the 13th. I know right? They should have just kept it low. 57. That's 12. That's so close. And the only other thing I want to mention about this movie is that there were actually three endings to this film. And if you have the DVDs special edition of it, you will automatically see a different ending. The ending I saw on Amazon was pretty chill. It was it was not the sad ending. But the automatic one you get on the DVD is a sad ending. And I don't know what the other ending is about. However, I do know that none of the three have anything to do with the ending that Stephen King. Oh yeah, there you go. So that is 1408 for you. I like that movie. Yeah. I remember liking that one. I thought it was gonna be such trash. Just because I don't know the poster arts crap. I seem to remember the trailer being crap. I was like, this is just some Hollywood schlocky bs 90s nonsense, like, and yet, it was really good. Come on. I just looked and I did not write it down. Okay, I really failed on that. 2000 1000s Yeah. But it feels like that kind of same 90s are right, it's like orange. You know, to people's faces. poster. Okay, I was wildly off so maybe your same office I was with, you know, 57 just one. Alright, can I talk now? I'm done. Please take it away. I cheated. Why? You cheated. This is a first this is a Strange Aeons first, Mark your calendars. When Eric first suggested this last week, he was talking about claustrophobic and stuff like that. And I was like, You know what, I don't like claustrophobic films because I have a touch of claustrophobia. From 2008 the ruins So what do you guys think in your mind, temple off the beaten path? I want to go oh man 1000 years ago. Why would they come near us? This was a place of sacrifice. Wow. It's beautiful. Still is. Thanks. Based on the terrifying bestseller ruins, okay. I am okay I bet okay. You look at me. Oh, this is like a To open claustrophobia, or wide open, small space stuck in one space, one space, a gigantic sky above them, so yeah, but not much more. Well 2008 had a budget of 8 million and a box office of about 23 million worldwide. Rotten Tomatoes critics 49% and the audience at 30% Wow. Wow, it's kind of surprising. Yeah, has really enjoyed this movie and everyone I've talked to really enjoy. So I remember seeing in theaters and thinking it was fine. Yeah, I like paired directed by Carter Smith, who has done a bunch of music videos and he did the, you know, the Hulu series into the dark. He did the episode, midnight kiss. And he is in pre production on a film that is getting a lot of buzz right now called swallowed. Written by Scott v. Smith, as far as I can tell no relation to Carter. He wrote the book, the ruins, and he also wrote the book and screenplay for a simple plan. Oh, and it says Jonathan Tucker, you would recognize him from the 2003 Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake which I thought was decent. Westworld season three tons of TV including a brand new series called debris. I don't know either, but I like him. He's got an interesting look. Jenna Malone was in Donnie Darko sucker punch the Hunger Games trilogy, and Nocturnal Animals came out. years ago. I fucking loved that movie. Shawn Ashmore, who was Iceman and the x men movies, he was in the Mother's Day, Mother's Day remake that I spoke of last year. And most recently, he is lamplighter in the boys. Oh, yeah. And Laura Ramsey, who was in lords of Dogtown then. Not the shitty Tom Hardy movie, but the cool one from 2005 and 2005. Yeah. Is it also about venom? No, no. It's a creepy horror movie, though. And she was also in the covenant, which is another movie I spoke of doing a I think one of our which episodes or something. Okay. So this is about these two young American couples who are medical students with their girlfriends. They're in spring break in Mexico. And they meet Matthias Who is this German tourist who's waiting on his brother to come back. And then they're all kind of partying and drinking and all this stuff. And his brother was at this, this archeological dig site that they had been kind of hip to that was out of the ordinary stuff. And Matthias tells the the uncouples Hey, I'm going to look for my brother tomorrow. This is something that you're not going to see on any of the tourist maps and everything. How would you like to come with me and they'll decide, okay, let's try this. That is a bad mistake. Go off the path guys. So after a little difficulty, the group reaches the ruins of a Mayan temple, which is actually really fucking cool looking. It's got these vines all over it, and it's clearly not a tourist trap. And in fact, there is nobody around it. And they see the tent of Mathias his brother up on the very top of the ruins. So as they start yelling up to him, they are suddenly surrounded by all these mind villagers who are armed with knives, bows, arrows, and one of them has a gun. And they are with a I guess you would call him a guide brought them there. And Matthias tries to explain the purpose. The villagers do not seem to understand Spanish or English. But when one of the girls accidentally steps on some of the mines, the villagers become extremely agitated. And when their guide starts walking towards them to try and calm them down, they shoot him dead. No, yeah, far. So the rest of the group flees up the stairs of this gigantic Mayan temple and end up on the top of the temple, big flat area. And that is where the rest of the movie takes place. It works for me because it is a big open sky, but they are really smart in how they do this in that they have some tents up there. So you've got some different scenes and there is a gigantic hole in the middle of this hole at the top that drops down into something. So they get up there, they see the man in camp, the tent is there, nobody is around. They, at one point, they hear a phone ringing down in the shaft, and they're like shit, this is our way out. We got to get down there and get that phone. They lower Mathias down and the rope snaps about halfway down and he lands hard. We're not sure if he's alive or anything. But they send one of the girls down then to see if they can figure out what's going on, get the phone all this stuff. So she She gets down there, Matthias his legs are, it looks like his back is broken. So he's basically worthless so that she ties him up with the rope, they were able to pull him back up. And then she goes looking for folge can't find anything and they pull her back up, they go down. Jeff is one of the guys and Amy is his girlfriend. And they they go back down the steps to try and talk to the minds that are there who are apparently keeping watch over them to make sure they do not leave this place. And they start threatening the young kids. as they get closer and I saw this, the guy that they shot is lying there with his brain splattered all over so it's fairly serious stuff. And the girl Amy, she starts freaking out a little bit and she grabs one of the clumps of vines and she throws it at them and it hits this young boy, I mean, this is like a 10 year old boy or something who's standing there. And that freaks out these mines a lot. And the boy is screaming and everything and he starts walking towards his dad who shoots him and kills him. And that's when our guys realize, oh, there's something wrong with these buttons. Man, they're they're basically being forced into quarantine here. So they go back up. And they tell, you know, the others up there. They've got Mateus out of the well his leg is fucked up, his back is fucked up. He is in a tremendous amount of pain. The next morning, Stacy, who is the other girl, she had to gotten a cut on her leg and she finds that there is a vine that has kind of crept around her leg and is inside the wound. And they they're able to kind of pull it out in a very gruesome scene. But then they go to see what's going on with Matthias because he had once also and they pull the blanket off of him. And these vines have eaten his legs down to the bone. No, it is really gruesome. I gotta say, watch it. This is maybe the third or fourth time I do like this movie. Every time this movie makes me so uncomfortable. The stress levels are high, the gore is really gory, huh, they realize that, you know, oh my god, what's going on here. So they, they try to get the vines off Matthias. They're just too wrapped around too strong inside of him and all this stuff. And then they start hearing the phone again, down in the shower, like this is what this is our only chance we have to get down there. So the two girls go down there has to be the two girls because the rope is not strong enough to hold them in. And they get down there and we're getting into spoiler territory. This is really the part where the movie starts taking off. But if you don't want to know, too bad because this is it's been out for a while it has been. They get down there and they're trying to they actually find a phone down there. They find a dead woman down there who's like sucked dry and they grabbed the phone from her and the phone doesn't work. The phone has a cracked screen and it won't power up or anything like that. And they're like what the fuck and then they hear the ringing again. And so they serve following the ringing. And these vines have these flowers on it. And in the center. These flowers are these little tendrils and these tendrils are making the phone sound. So it sounds like a ringing phone and it's really a chilling moment where you realize what the fuck these these flowers can kind of mimic sounds. And the girls are screaming and all that means suddenly the flowers start kind of sounding like girls screaming so they race out of there. They try to explain what's going on to the boys. And from there. It's it's just a matter of time you realize the vines are all over this temple. They're up on the top of the temple, they're all the way down. You see the Mayans down below and they are salting the ground all around the temples of the vines can't grow any further than this. It is really interesting to watch. The relationships start to fall apart and accusations going on. They go crazy. Stacy Has she she feels like you know I can feel the vines in my back and and they look and they can actually see the vines moving under our skin so they actually cut her skin open and pull the blinds out and she's like I feel them all over me they're in my head and they're like no they're not in their head but then you see like this thing under her skin on her forehead start moving and you realize oh they are all over underneath her so bases mom is going to be sad Stacy's mom going on. She goes really insane. So she's doing some some cutting of her own on herself and then and then on her boyfriend and I don't want to say exactly how this ends, but there is a last ditch effort to get at least one person out of here so they can tell the world what's going on. And of course, the minds do not want anyone to escape. So I think this movie is really, really strong is really cool on the scares. It's super original. I'm not sure where that 30% comes from. Because if you're a horror fan, this has everything. Yeah, that's that's surprising, because I remember I don't remember even the violence level being that high. I just remembered being really good. Yeah. I guess my knee jerk reaction is the frustration of everybody whining and complaining about well, the remakes and sequels. What about original heart, this is original horror, and it's really good. So go enjoy it. I will say that there is and there is an ultimate ending on the blu ray, but there was an a different ending completely shot that I guess you can't find anywhere. But it is described as such. There's a scene where somebody does escape, and you see the truck driving away, and you can tell that this person is infected. So they're bringing this out into the world. But the extended version of this scene, then a caretaker is seen walking among the headstones in a cemetery sometime later, whistling for jakka. Right. And he then hears the same tune coming from a grave. And he goes forward to investigate the camera follows revealing the grave to be the person who escaped and several red flowers around the headstone. And as the caretaker reaches for one the music searches, and the scene that's too black, and it did not test well. Uh huh. Well, yeah, of course, it didn't. I don't know I when I read that, I was like, God damn it, that's a way better ending that we got through the unrated version, basically, or not the unrated, but the theatrical version basically shows us the person escaping. And that's it. The unrated version gives us the scene of showing them being infected. So I don't know what, you know what if you get to test these on audiences? You should, you should fill it with an audience full of horror fans. He's going to go watch this film, right? Yeah. Like the context is so important. Like, of course, it has a dumb like, Oh, it's everywhere. Ending it's all word movie. Yes. Just a little bit of trivia on this. When the producers all start coming up on the credits, Ben Stiller, okay. Oh, sure. And it is his production company that put this out. Wow. And he was involved with this film, because he is a friend of the novelist Scott B. Smith. And so he was reading the book before it was finished. before it was even published, and bought it before the story was published. Super cool. Which also goes into this one, then the director Carter Smith had just purchased the copy of the novel and started reading it when he got the phone call offering him you read it right. I have not read. Okay, but I have not read it. But I should I have heard that it is quite a bit different. And that the ending of the book is really dark. Carter Smith has said, you know, if we tried to film, the ending of the book, everybody would have just hated us of how dark this movie is. Sherm? I don't know. I just thought it was neat to see that Ben Stiller was listed as a executive producer on this. I was going to the concept if you're really worried about being a really, really dark ending the mist made it out there. Yeah. So come on, you can go for it. The movie my mom will never forgive me for forcing. Yeah. You were there, weren't you? We saw the screener screening of it at Paramount. Whatever downtown theater downtown I saw. I saw a screening of it, but not down there. Yeah, remember the lady standing on the outside as? Well. So yeah, I think you don't for the dirt rather than ending. Wow. Interesting. I guess I didn't realize it was based on a book. But that makes it a little more intriguing. And what a great friend. You want a friend like tiller? I gotta say if you're an author, I mean, he's already done a simple plan and the screenplay for a simple plan. So I imagine when you're handing something to Ben Stiller is is this Anything you'd be interested? Oh, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. What cool. So yeah, my mind didn't quite fall into the claustrophobic single location, but the majority of the film takes place on the top of this Mayan temple. All right, watch one location, I was gonna be like, super asel and just do a regular movie and say my movie takes place on planet Earth. location that for me to go on your website and complain about how unreal Star Wars is now. So I think that makes the next pick yours. Yeah. So, um, you know, there's a topic that I am shocked we have not yet covered but really excited to throw out there. I was really inspired by watching the tomorrow war. So I'm going to pitch invasion movies. I'm doing an invasion USA. And I do an invasion USA that has a scene that has bugged me since I was a kid. Are you ever seen in Beijing? I remember the beginning when they bust the cocaine, and some ladies got a straw up or nose with a cocaine and just hit on the back of the head. Got about that? Okay. I'm taking that up. As if it was like bugs or aliens or you know, if it was a genre film, that might be great. All right. Chuck Norris is a genre just like Nick ages genre. But he's not the genre that I want to talk about. All right, well, okay. Let's do that next week, as usual, big, big thanks to everybody participating in the value for value model. It has blown us away the response to this. Yeah, that's incredible. And so that's it, guys. How about we get back here one week from today, and we do this all over again. Okay, sure. All right. I'll see you guys then. Our show is recorded somewhere high above Naval Station Everett at the nexus of all realities, and is engineered and produced by Eric Margaret. Our theme music is Strange Aeons part one by the band name shade is used with permission. Fine, Strange Aeons radio on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Wherever find podcasts. We got to make this more Hollywood but or less Scandinavian