We're getting weird in our sub-genre picks this week, which are all about movies that have an animal name in the title! Also discussed: "Titans" season 3, "Star Trek: Lower Decks", and "Brand New Cherry Flavor".
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Oh, sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition? To show you Strange Aeons. Welcome Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. That's Vanessa over there. Hi. That must make me Kelly. Hey guys, you remember a couple weeks ago I was talking about? Well, this has been a multi episode thing now. Andrew Byers bought the coin. Oh, yes. And then, you know, I didn't know who the who he was. And then he contacted me, told me about his podcast. So I then talked about the podcast, this is how the value for value works, because then he posted on their podcast page. Hey, these guys said some really nice things about our podcast, check out their new episode, all that stuff. And that's how the value for value works. We all just kind of share whatever you get out of this. Leisha? Yeah, that's awesome. I love that. podcasting is very incestuous. Oh, absolutely. Listen, so most podcasts podcasters Of course, and I thought I saw something like there's a billion podcasts now or some crazy number, like a lot of it was pandemic bass like pod, pod being the one we're on went from a few, like 10,000 or something like that listeners on their YouTube channel to a couple 100,000 in a year. And they're like, Whoa, guys. So that means one in seven people have a podcast. Right? It really does. That's astounding mass now that's what that is. We all have a lot to talk about. And Darren if we can't record it while we're doing it. I'll tell you what, when when Eric and I first came up with this and then we switched over to Strange Aeons radio. My idea then was let's kind of format it almost like a radio show. And that's why we've got the different things going on. We got the hot chick and stuff like but no one can know. The idea was then that we could also make Strange Aeons radio, almost a network, you know, and have other guests under the Strange Aeons radio. Yeah, Tony. Right. And still kind of the dream is to get some you know, Strange Aeons radio presents, and then somebody else I am always so out of the loop on this stuff. I'm like, wait, you guys had a magazine? What? What you guys need to film together? When did that? no concept of I just want I feel like I walk in and out of a black closet, open the doors to you and then close it again. Like, no clue. Aside from what you've told me in verse nine, what's going on? And you know what I love about that is there was no doubt then that you were like, Oh, hey, I gotta get in on whatever these guys got going on. You were just like, Sure. I'll come hang out with you weirdos. Yeah, yeah, no, I love hanging out with you guys. You have like, amazing. You're amazing human. Oh, I love talking to you. Thank you. Okay, show like this. We're going to another show next week. Hey, guys, I just finished a brand new series on Netflix. called, ironically. Brand new cherry flavor. Hey, I saw the first episode of that. First one, and I'll tell you, this is the kind of stuff I'm gravitating towards more lately. It is fucking weird. Yeah, it is gory, gory enough that there were a couple of times that I had to kind of step away and let the TV run while I wash the dish or something. I did not want to see any more of whatever is going on here. It's got a weird fucking Clive Barker ish feel sex magic and blood magic and all sorts of weird shit going on. And it's tied into Hollywood. And it's obvious metaphor for how you can get into the industry. become obsessed with it to the detriment of everyone you love. And it's just finished. It is fucking weird. like eight episodes. Wow. They're calling it a limited series. So I don't know that this means that they might not do a one off. Yeah, yeah, it's cool, huh? Is it? I thought I heard that it's by the dude who did channel zero. You know, I don't know if that is true. Okay. Yeah, cuz I mean, I was just connecting the dots and going okay, like it's got that kind of weird, pushing the limits feel. But now like it's, I don't know, more gory than channel zero. I'm under the impression that the director of all the episodes is a female. Okay. And it is based on a book. Right? Hmm. All right. I'll scratch that. Let me just let me just also put this out here. As we are recording, you may hear some construction sound. Yes, because we're expanding the Strange Aeons radio. Yeah. knocking out some walls. No, actually, the landlord is upstairs and he is pounding on stuff. very well may come through these microphones. Always good to be warned. All right, well, um, yeah, I got to see something. We are professional. God, just gonna yawn right into my phone right now. My God. I know I just Okay, so um, you guys really inspired me by talking about evil all the time. Oh, so I went ahead and finish season one and all of season two so far. Fantastic. Yeah, it actually does really pick up I think the moment that I stopped watching it, it was kind of in a little bit of a lull plot wise. And then you know, it just I don't know, if everyone seems evil in season two, I don't know what's happening. I feel like they're all possessed. And I'm like, the girls possessed. The moms possess the frickin mom of her mom. What the fuck is happening? But really, really fun. I think you nailed it on the head there with the fun part. Yes. Eric, you had pointed out that they really kind of injected a sense of humor. Yeah. A wicked sense of humor. Yeah. And the intro with book. Yeah, that the men kind of character introducing, right. What's going to go on helps cartoon it up a little bit. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Yeah. New episodes starting by? Yeah. Oh, cool. I will be at cryptic. I won't be able to see it. I guess. Just something to look forward to when the sadness of the con ending hits you. Just pull up some evil and let that Oh, in the turnout because nobody's here. Oh, my God TV. Paramount blessing this room. I watched one that seemed to be going around for a little while. I kept wanting to see it. It was at Sif called sensor. Oh, yes. Have you seen this may have seen this as well. I saw it like last night. I seen it more recently. And I have watched like two days ago. I liked it. I wanted more, something more from it. But I mean, I thought it built to a very nice conclusion. But I'm, I'm not sure I understood everything that happened. I just was like our issues stupid. Like the whole time. I was like, are you okay? First of all, you watch movies all fucking day. And you don't know anything about production at all. Like, I get that she's crazy. But like, well, this is my early 80s. Probably her mid mid mid to late 80s. I think it was when they some of the references they were making. So there's not a modern one. So you could watch hundreds of movies and not know a damn thing about but you wouldn't think they're all real. Right? Like be like, Oh, I'm on a set and everything here is real. Like, Oh, I thought by that point, she just gone crazy. I didn't think she would think I think the build up for me didn't quite make enough sense because I wasn't like believing it. I was like, I knew that she wasn't there. But that level of not there. I was like, I just like the very very far when she visited the producers house. And the way she left that moment where she had disconnected from reality. No point of no return. Yeah, sir. It almost felt to me. And it'd be very cool. If this was in the idea. It felt like the making of what would become a cursed film. Right? Yeah, I thought that this was gonna end up being like a snuff film that gets distributed and like Yeah, exactly. Is underground, which would have been the perfect cap to it. Yeah, that would have been a good It didn't really have an ending. No. I mean, it's just going completely. Yeah, apparently. Yeah, absolutely. And by the way, when she's out that producers Has she doesn't grab her coat. I'm like, you're going to jail. left here cuz she snapped. That's right. That was right that she snapped. She's Yeah. Last reality. She says goodbye to him. I was like he's not hearing yet. But not as good as I expected, but not that bad. Sounds like three tepid thumbs up. Yeah. Mine's a firm hand in the middle. Oh, I'm not going to give it a thumbs up or a thumbs up. Completely down. But you've got a you've got a Cuomo hand on the back. That's right straight up comb. Oh, really channeling that dude. I did see something that I paid for and I'm kind of stupid Snake Eyes, GI Joe origins. Oh my god. Not very good. However, head and shoulders above that Mortal Kombat movie. Now Yeah, I'd imagine the reason I decided to shell out money because I was looking at this going okay, the rocks not in this. I don't think I've got any interest in this but you know who is in it? And I don't think it's any kind of spoiler because he's credited I think on IMDB as storm shadow. Oh, is the lead from warrior that we? I thought they had little snippets of him in the trailer. And I was like, is that the guy from where it is? And he is so charismatic. I'm just like, I got fingers crossed that this is the next big Hollywood action star because his next movie is with Brad Pitt on some kind of some kind of big action heist movie on a train. I was like, I hope this guy just fucking explodes now because there's something about him that can't take your eyes off him. Yeah, yeah. So I can watchable so you watch all the warrior to warrior as well or just some of it. I've seen most of the first were pretty new seen enough though to know he is? Oh, yeah. No, I definitely know who he is. Yeah, no, we've gone over that before where there's so many things out now you watch something and even if it's pulls you at least a little bit. Oh, look, there's this other thing on. You're watching it. Netflix brings new stuff out every week. And if you haven't had a chance to binge The other thing you're now with this new shiny thing going Oh, what's this? Oh, completely honestly, like I'm in the middle of maybe six shows right now. I finally finished off. Castle Rock season two. Finally. What do you think of that? Um, you know, it was it was fine, I guess. I guess it got to where it needed to go. But it was a little It was interesting because they're pulling in pieces from the first season. about midway through there's a little bit of a change in the railroad tracks. And I felt like it became across two very weird story three very weird stories in one and I wasn't totally sure how to feel about it. I enjoyed it. I love the characters. I loved the acting but the actual story elements were just a little strange to cross the kind of Salem's lot Enos with the misery with last season. It just felt like, but none of the vampire stuff from Salem's lot was just location. Yeah, just just the kind of idea of some ancient thing some ancient evil maybe, maybe you've all maybe not evil thing. But did you see it? I saw the first season and I was so disappointed with the way it ended that Oh, yeah. Like, I don't think you guys know what you're doing. What a waste. Yeah, this one. I mean, you know who you're dealing with, because we've all seen mentioned in Missouri, so you know, you're just waiting for her to become the person she's going to be sure. And so, if I feel like they do that, in a really good way, that works for me. But the actual storylines do get very strange for when was that the was your thing we're gonna talk about today because otherwise I will just say Snake Eyes, you know, probably not worth the $20 rental but, but okay, when it shows up for free, give it a shot. Yeah, actually, I do want to mention one other thing though, which was the newest season of Star Trek below deck. Oh, yes. I've only watched the first one. But Wow. It's like they hire the people from Rick and Morty. It is Rick and Morty. It is expanding as a concept. I mean, they've got there's a part four one of the below tech people is cleaning off some building and it turns into this warlord kind of thing and you get gods and all this but it's so good because like the references are so nicely placed and it's so loving towards all the seasons. Because I think that warlord that war thing was probably from from original series. And then in the second episode, at one point just as an Easter egg they walk through like the skeleton of a giant old science officer. And I was like, What is this 50 foot Spock is I think it's 50 foot Spock Wow, this is a bucket and pole is just so fun. There's it's One of my favorite things to watch right now just immediately makes me feel amazing. And anyone who's a Star Trek fan this is this is the show for you. Yeah. And if you're not, it actually works. Yeah, because it's just a good sci fi. It's just fun. Really fun stuff. Yeah, the characters are really fine. You don't need to know all the references. But if you do speaking of references, and a show full of them hadn't mentioned yet. I'll throw out the new season a Titans Yeah, we should talk about I know nothing of this. Titans is is a really good show. Based on the Teen Titans series. Sorta like Titans grew up? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's it's, it's very adult style, closer to watchmen or something like that than it is to the original Teen Titans. I mean, just in tone, not in story in any way. Right. Now, I was not reading if you are really into Titans. And whereas guesses of almost the first scene. So do you think it's a spoiler, whatever? The killing of Jason. I mean, I knew about all that. Right. But I was not reading of the times. I knew. I know. I know, the Red Hood. But I do not know the story of the Red Hood. So I've heard if you know that story, there's some problems in the way they're presenting it as part of this series. Well, I mean, so the death of Jason Todd, a death in the family was a pretty long storyline in the comics. And then, years later, the Red Hood shows up and it is suddenly revealed that the Red Hood is Jason Todd, who we thought was killed by the Joker years ago. That's all taken place in the first episode of this, which is like, Whoa, like, boy, I don't know that we needed to rush through this quickly did we and and the whole thing of finding out that the Red Hood was Jason Todd, that was a year in the making of the story, also. But we find that out immediately. Yeah. This first episode we heard. Yeah, it's like it almost feels like who's ever writing Titans is like, Well, shit. We brought Jason in the season two. So everybody's expecting us just do this stupid rata thing, get it done with and move on with what the stories we actually want to tell. I do feel like it's it's kind of it's kind of being made for people who already know the story. So they can just touch on a couple of moments. But if I step back and just think of watching this as a viewer, I'd be like, wow, there's an awful lot going on in this first episode. Much less. You know, they're on episode four now. And they've they've introduced reintroduced Blackfyre. And that is such a massive storyline in the Teen Titans series, you know, in the gave three episodes last season to the Judas contract. And it's just like, boy, you guys really must not think you've got any legs on this series. Yeah, they don't have time. Yeah. So they're just blasting through the greatest hits of the teen tight. And the hawk storyline was sort of pointless it? Well, I'll tell you this, I did not expect the way that we're talking. I understand that. Death in comic books is not really a thing. Unless your Uncle Ben. Right. But but otherwise? I don't know. I was like, are they going to somehow bring him back? Because you know, I'd like to that guy? Oh, yeah. He's an actor that I've seen in multiple things. And he's always a lot of fun. And the other thing is, so you know, we're talking spoilers on all of this, of course, as usual, retro actively, you know, Jason Todd ends up killing him. And the Red Hood in the comic books is part of the bat family. Like how they can reconcile this if they're going to try to and make Robin okay with working next to the Red Hood. So I don't know, write themselves into a corner. Yeah. And some writers love doing that. I know, some writers are just like, how am I going to get out of this? And where do we catch Titans on HBO? Max now? Sure. When DC went away, HBO picked that up. Gotcha. So they've got all this one thing. They've got two seasons of their DC Universe on there. And then now this third season is HBO max. And it seems like they've kind of toss some, you know, they went through a restructuring when they got on to HBO max looks like it's got a little bit more money. Yeah. But you know, we still haven't seen Raven in four episodes. That's true. Yeah. And I'm curious what's going on there. You know, the way Season Two ended with the ridiculous death of Wonder Girl having a pole fall on her after she can do all this superhuman stuff for poles snaps and falls on her. And Raven is supposedly all this season, trying to somehow bring her back to life. If I guess I don't I don't know. Yeah. comic books get weird, man. Yeah. It's the little things sort of like watchmen. As cool as it would to be another see another season by the people who did that first one. That's fine that they didn't do another season. I was just like, please don't do another season. There is no way you can match how great this show was one and done. Get out of there. Yep. All right, speaking one and done and getting out of here. That's great. How about we take a little break. And when we come back, we're talking about movies with animal names in the animal. animal. Powerful four by four. But when the going gets tough climb over anything. Batteries not included from below. And we're back. This was my genre pick or sub genre pick and I picked the the idea of movies that have an animal name in the title so jaws would not work, even though it's about a shark. However, shark Knight 3d would absolutely work. Oh, shark from my choice. I picked shark Knight three. We are going to Lake Crosby to Sara lake. Yeah, totally cool. You guys have fun, but they're quite what we had in mind. Let's rock it out. Your house is on an island. It's gonna be a good weekend. You want to hit that up? Your secret's safe for me man. Of course he did. Is it night with a K or is it night with a noun? No, that would have been great. The show. I don't know there's a lot of sharks out there short movies galore. This was from 2011 First of all, have you guys seen this or even heard? No, no? Absolutely not. I'll tell you what. Young Kelly young in 2011 went and saw this movie in the theater. How who was having this movie in a theater? theater, somebody's garage. This was a big huge part of that whole 3d push we got for a couple years now. Yeah. And I was like, oh, fucking Yeah, sure. budget of $25 million. Box Office of $41 million worldwide. That's my bad grade. But yeah, they didn't lose money. Rotten Tomatoes. The critics have this at 18% but the audience disagrees vehemently. And has it at 22% four point difference. You know, this was directed by stunt man turned stunt coordinator turned director David R Ellis. Oh, nice. He did final destination to cellular Snakes on a Plane and the final destination. Why? Wow. And it was written by wil Hayes, who's got a ton of recent TV stuff, including multiple episodes of Asai McGee. Why it's that uncinematic best week ever with Paul F. Tompkins and something called disjointed was also written by Jesse student Berg and this is his or her only movie. So it stars Sarah Paxton, who has 79 credits, including the last house on the left remake the innkeepers and 33 episodes of Darcy's wildlife. That's what the actors Yes, okay. It also stars Dustin Milligan 61 credits including slither, the messengers and 43 episodes of shits Creek as Ted molins. Oh, no. Okay, cool. He looks disturbingly like my nephew. Oh, no. FBI agent and yeah, but he on social media and all of that. But I remember in the theater, texting him and going, why are you in this way? It also says Chris Carmack was 37 credits mostly TV, including 59 episodes of Grey's Anatomy and 109 episodes of Nashville. And then the other big name and it is Donal Logue. 113 credits, including blade, ghostriders, Zodiac and 100 episodes of Gotham as Harvey Bullock. Fantastic. Nice. So an all star cast, including your nephew. Yes. deep under cover. Absolutely. So this, this story is ridiculous. opens up with an underwater shot of a girl with a very nice ass bouncing around in the water. Gorgeous. And but something is wrong, Vanessa, she is not alone in the water. Oh no, wait, music swells water and her boyfriend suddenly comes up from under her terrifying her and supposedly terrifying us. But if you've ever seen one movie, you realize, okay, they are trying to fool me. And I shan't be fooled. They have some playful banter and he gets out of the water to get some food and guess what happens then? She gets out of the water and also gets no she is suddenly attacked by a real shark. No. Oh, no, you didn't see I was unreal. I can't believe they pulled that. That's, that's some clever work. Well, you know, it's not the shallows. She's waist deep. Okay. No shark attack within three feet of water. Did you know that? That's because that's where all the food is bouncing around. So is it really are Is this real? I can't ever go to Hawaii. I'm very curious now that lethal shark attacks are just like, you get well I get sharks. That's counted as a shark attack. Right. Let's check it. Oh, wow. that's saying a lot of great whites and three feet is kind of what I say. And everyone likes to throw that out, including me. Most shark attacks occur within three feet of water. Well, that's where all the people are. So I don't know where you expect the sharks to be attacking. It's not in the Marianas Trench. And if you're a sea creature, then you're kind of getting pinned into a corner so I can see that being a good like spot for them done. Sure to get back to this Vanessa, do you mind? I don't know. Okay, I need to know more. Please inform me about sharks though. I don't die. So Meanwhile, a bunch of students who are friends from Tulane University and Louisiana, are starting out on a mini vacation to Sarah's family vacation home. Sarah is played by Sarah Paxton. I don't know if they kept her name, but they spell it exactly the same. So she's got a family vacation home, which is a lovely lake house. And at a local bait shop there by the house. Or by where they have to get to the house, they run into her old boyfriend who has a very nasty scar across his face and pretty pissy out attitude. And his attitude is very pissy because one of the friends is black, and his girlfriend is Mexican. And they decided to you know, make something of that. And it's it's an uncomfortable sale. Okay, then. Like he's not happy that there's a mixed race or he's not happy that they are a race at all. Yeah, I think more the ladder, okay. I mean, there's nothing like really letting you know someone who's shitty by having to be outwardly racist. But you're like, Okay, just real life. Yeah, yeah, it is true. That's a cliche for a reason. So the friends then make it to a doc and Sarah has to pilot a boat through kind of like a Everglades type thing, even though this is Louisiana to get to our lake house. So they're screaming through these, these water passageways and shit like that. And then a sheriff on a boat. hits the lights and starts chasing after them. Oh, right. So Sarah guns it and over friends and like why Sarah? No Stop, please the police. And they make it to the boathouse with the cop in hot pursuit and it turns out he's an old family friend. Oh my god. I mean, this me fake assumes you are stupid. You have never heard a joke or seen a movie so you don't understand what twisting somebodies expectations are. Oh my god, this is this is high. So cheap. Yeah, this is high entertainment. So they get settled in. And few of the friends go waterskiing, but as they're skiing, a shark fin appears behind them. It's the boyfriend with a shark fin and starts hunting down this, this gear. This is a ridiculously stupid scene, because I don't know I didn't check how fast the shark can swim. But these guys are doing. I don't know, what do you have to do to at least 20 miles an hour to get somebody pulled up and standing up behind you? Right? Anybody out there is listening does waterskiing how fast you have to be going to go. And then also all the shark experts out there. Use shark spirits. I need to know how fast a shark can swim be Kelly is a movie shark expert. That's. That's right. And this shark Not only is keeping up with them, it's gaining on them. The skier is looking back behind him and seeing it and he's yelling at them to go faster, go faster, and the people in the boat don't realize why. So they're going faster and faster. And the shark finally just Wham smacks him knocks him off the skis and they go oh, man down, they don't realize what's happened yet, right? So they slow down, turn around, and they start looking for him. They can't find him anywhere. And that is because he has managed to crawl up onto the shore. And he's missing an arm. Oh. And there's a really stupid scene where everybody is attacking each other because they think you know, the guy who was piloting the boat, like ran over him and cut his arm off or something. screaming at each other Jesus. Yeah, I like I like the idea that we're being on this water skis and having the shark get closer and closer. Sure. Let me remind you that the writer of this wrote multiple episodes of asking the geese anytime you started thinking this is stupid. You're right. All right. retracted. Also, this is a film that were no they have no cell service. You know how that works? Oh, no. Oh, no, they're in a place and they make sure to say Hey, no cell service here. Otherwise, there'd be no movie we could call for help. So a couple of the kids decided to take the boat to go get a doctor, but the boat is leaking all this blood, you dig? And so a shark attacks them and destroys the boat and the kids. Wow, maybe over hate it when my boat bleeds. This was just a couple of the kids. Okay. So then the ex boyfriend and his hillbilly buddies show up to taunt the kids and then find out that there's been a shark attack now like gluten. So they agreed to drive a couple of the friends off to get a doctor if they can't move the guy who's lost his arm. So everybody's staying with him and tourniquet on his arm and all of this shit. On the boat ride. The Ex Boyfriend tells her he's wondering. So he's brought to the friends and it's him and his hillbilly buddy. And they're like, I want to how this shark got into this area. I mean, it's a saltwater lake. But still, unless somebody purposely put him here. Then it will because it's right off the Gulf of whatever it is. And all you sharks out there. Let me know if you can stock a lake with a shark. That's all water. Like I think it's possible possible. I think so. Yeah. Anyhow, he says we did it. I bet somebody did stock the lake with sharks because it was us and he throws the other kids into say, Is this the guy with the scar on the face? Yes, it is. You get the scar from a shark. Just want to spoil this whole movie. This film. What a twist. So now the dude with one arm. He's like, I'm getting my revenge on the fucking shark. Right. So he, with his tourniquet arm wanders out into the lake. He doesn't realize that the whole lake is stocked with sharks. He thinks it's he thinks one. Yeah, he thinks it's gonna be his show. So a hammerhead shark attacks. And Vanessa, he wrestles this motherfucker onto the shore. He grabs it under his good arm, and he's like bashing it around. And then he's gonna roll up in a knee into its guts and all that so guy he's so yeah, so he finally drags the shark up. I don't know how much does the shark wave you guys probably 200 700 pounds probably depends on the size. You know, maybe the water buoyancy helps I'm sure. So what they see though, this is not the kind of shark that would attack it is a hammerhead shark and it has a camera attached to its belly a reality TV tiny little GoPro on its belly All right, sure. So what I'm sensing a little bit of disbelief here sharks be making movies now. You see how much money that shark NATO thing then. So now they're like, What the fuck is going on? We have got to get out of here. So they decided to take the jetski which is the only remaining thing of theirs. And they're gonna like we're taking this back to the mainland, right? The The guy with one arm and one of the other guys but they are attacked by a great way Chuck and killed does the jetski survive the jetski No, the shark ate the jetski as well. Oh, whoa. So now it is just Sarah and the guy who looks disturbingly like my fit nephew. Awesome. So finally the sheriff shows up to find out what all the commotion is about and you guys are not going to fuckin believe this but he is in on the whole thing into the third act, which I will not give away but there is a reason that they have stocked the lake and it is ridiculous and also kind of fun. So I wholeheartedly approve. They they do mention something about what's the most watch watch television series right now on Shark Week. Yeah. So they've got a plan is it is it it's a reality TV show though, right? Like an illegal reality. Yeah, like is super illegal like, you know, which is rough and tumble extreme pay per view has it were shorter, shorter. Housewives of this lake. They like put like a little like, do they strap a little like camera onto them? Or did they like just pound it into them? Like strapped onto them? It's very humane. Okay, good. So much tech, like implant all over the cameras. So you guys this movie is stupid, but also very entertaining. And you know, there are a lot of shark movies. You know, shark nedo seem to jumpstart and a huge thing is just really bad low budget shark movies. But when this came out, it's being starved for halfway decent shark movies. I definitely want to see it. And it is a big budget shark movie. The Sharks look pretty fucking great. Yeah, so the actors aren't as good as the sharks. I have a little bit of trivia on this. This is the first shark movie released in 3d. Since jaws 3d one eight years prior. Oh, equal or all the better better than just 3d? I'll say well, that's Yeah. The movies tagline is terror runs deep, which is identical to Peter benchley is the beast which came out 15 years earlier. taglines univer Yeah, totally fine words that come out with England. At one point, the sheriff tells Nick that it's a tiger shark that they're looking at, and they'll eat anything. Including plates and tin cans. Well, that is exactly what is pulled out of the Tiger Shark by Brody and Hooper in jazz when they cut the belly open and on ice. So I thought that was nice stuff. And then finally, this was director David R. Ellis's final film. On January 7 2013. Ellis's body was found in the bathroom of his hotel room in Johannesburg, South Africa. He was preparing to direct a movie at the time, no cause of death has been released. However, it was probably a shark for revenge, like swam up a little hole, or did somebody stock the bathtub with sharks and he just didn't realize he was just like bubbly and he was like, I'm just gonna dip on toe in here. cozy. No disrespect to David RLC will be missed. Absolutely. I think he would appreciate a good shark death joke based off of this film. Yes, that was my movie. Wow. I don't know if there's any beating that. But I do feel like my my selection at least tries on some level to be as stupid as yours. Oh, I cannot wait. I don't I don't think it's quite as dumb. It's dumb in different ways. antastic So I went ahead and went with a film I'd never heard of in my life, but apparently had a decent budget. The 1999 movie bats. Full Moon of October is known as the hunter's moon this October on tours will be out in force. Feeling the hungry sky? Or the midnight snack? Yeah, yes. seen this? Yeah. So should we just go back and rename this because I'm going to follow right in this crowd sounds like I'm so bad. They're good. Well, that's isn't necessarily good. How do you feel about this? Um, well, let me see you guys. I got feelings. So the tagline for this movie if in case anyone needs to have a clue as to what happens, fear takes flight. We're talking genetically mutated bats versus the expert and local sheriff. The rotten tomatoes on this? critics haven't 17% audience has 14% No. Critics liked it better. Rough, but box office of 5.2 5 million. So not as much as the shark movie. budget. 10 point 2 million. Oh, no. Ouch. So they double their money. I'm sure they didn't spend that all in advertising anyway. Wait, you said box office was 5.2 and the budget was 10.20. So they didn't I should have said last sorry. A budget was 5.2. Okay, thank you. We'll walk through that sucker. Scratch that reverse it. I'm the director of this is a basically who's like a music video guy who also did some trailers for Roger Corman. He has 12 credits under his belt including final judgment. Karna sore to soldier boys hits your two. I've been waiting and joy ride to deadhead. Wow. So a couple good movies that he did sequels to. Yeah, I know. Mr. sequel, like if you wanted a terrible second film, you got this guy. And then the writer for this however, john Morgan has 26 credits. This was his third movie right after tornado, the TV movie. His career basically took off right after this film and he did any given Sunday. Gladiator Star Trek Nemesis, Last Samurai, aviator Sweeney Todd Skyfall Spectre alien covenant, and created the Penny Dreadful series. Oh, nice. Yeah, he's like, yeah, I'm like, Okay. Cool. Weirdly, I feel like the writing sucked. But, you know, third movie after a TV film, you got to learn somewhere. This film is starring Lou Diamond Phillips who has 149 credits. He mostly plays prominent Native American characters and he has 1/8 Cherokee. Okay, which I was really surprised about. I was like, I, I guess maybe that means his grandparents or turkey. Yeah. You would remember him from young guns le bomba and he plays the demon in demon wind, if any vinegar syndrome fan art. Yes. I know. I was like, That's fucking one of those movies. That's far better known for its cover. video rental cover that was for it's the movie itself. Absolutely. It also serves Dina Meyer who's been in 96 things including Starship Troopers, which is what you know, is most recognizable I think and then Johnny mnemonic. So throw back there. Bob gunton 141 things. He's the villain of the piece. Super recognizable face. He's lots and lots and lots of small roles, but the thing I remembered him from was as Warden Norton and Shawshank Redemption. He also is in the Daredevil TV series as Leland owlsley. Just spelled a really pronounceable way. Let me tell you, and last but not least, Leon, no last name, who has been in 83 things He plays kind of the the science assistant. But he was the lead in Cool Runnings and he's an above the rim. cliffhanger. He's in the TV series oz and actually was in the like a prayer music video. So, and on his IMDb accordingly it says in 2020, Leon starred in hallmarks number one movie of the year. Time for us to come home for Christmas. So Christmas movie, shacking great fan, great fan. So the the story of bats. Oh, yeah, that's the two teams are making out under a bridge, and they accidentally wake up a flock. They're called nest swarm swarm, a swarm of genetically modified bats that eat their guts out what do we know? They're genetically modified already? Oh, I don't know that. We know that yet. We just know that they're giant and they look very strange. And I think we get a little bit of bad POV. Okay, there's a little actual there's a lot about POV in this movie. Meanwhile, while they're laying on their cars with like their guts literally hanging out their face missing. Dr. Sheila Casper and her assistant Jimmy sands, aka Leon, are hanging out playing, playing with bats and doing some fun spelunking. So they're just having a jolly good time. Very fast shifting gears, seeing there. And a helicopter arrives overhead. And they're trying to trick us by the way. It's like, oh, my god, there's a sound. Is it the bat that we just saw? No, it's a helicopter. I was like, What was this? Why am I looking at this? Like, is this supposed to be anyway? Is this right? Or two episodes of asking McGee? You know, I didn't look far enough into tell you for sure. But I wouldn't be shocked. Dr. Sheila is being called in to help investigate the new deadly giant bat situation in a small Texas town. When she arrives. She needs Dr. Toby Hodge, who straight up is like, yeah, I modified the bats. I mean, he doesn't say in what ways he's done it. He just we just know. It's his experiment. And he's standing there with like a CDC guy, who's also like, Yeah, we got it. We got to catch all these bats before like it becomes a worldwide bat situation. And then Toby Hodge just kind of stands around for most of the rest of the movie, looking a little sinister in a very nice sweater. So don't don't hear a lot more from him. Also, entering the scene Sheriff Emmett kimsey, Lou Diamond Phillips, who is basically ready to just hit on her a bunch, while her assistant, unfortunately is ready to at any second give a quippy and awful one liner. Like her assistant. It's really unfortunate this this poor guy, every single thing he says is an awful one liner that makes no sense and he has no personality. So anytime you need a comic relief moment, he is seen he fails greatly. Sheila discovers that the bats are actually much worse than originally thought. Not only are they attacking humans, which she is, like offended at the thought of. But they're omnivores now. So normally, bats don't eat meat, I guess. But now they do. They're aggressive. And they're incredibly intelligent. So deadly combo. At one point, she catches the bat in the hopes to release it and find out where the bats are sleeping so they can go and get them. And the bat like, gets a little tracker put on him and flies off. And you're like, Oh, go back go. And two bats come from either side of him. Like, each one like grabs part of him, and then pulls him apart into two. I was like, why should this happen? That's a really messed up a bad situation. I've got a bat in half. All right. Interesting. Um, so she runs back to the town is like everybody needs to evacuate This is we are not going to be able to solve this quickly. The bats are attacking people and they are headed towards town. But no one believes her because it's Texas. So then we have a giant scene of like bats attacking from the sky. People are hiding and restaurants and bats are like flying through crashing windows. This feels like the end of the movie. It is not. But it is a long, epic scene and I thought this was going to be like a really bad CGI bat movie. There are so many fucking bat bat puppets. I was amazed they made a lot of bats to throw at people and puppeteer them. It's very, very exciting stuff. So of course, pretty much no one survives, except for Lou Diamond Phillips, the bad science guy. And our main Sheila science character and her assistant, CDC guys dead entire town is dead. So then we have a scene where they decide to wait out the next night in safety, as they figure out the bad situation more, and we have another siege in school. But unfortunately, the bad guy science guy dies in that one because he decides to go out and go, the buds will obey me and runs outside and then they don't. And it's like, okay, and he's It's so weird, like the reveal that he's evil because he's literally just walked around looking sinister the whole time. They're sitting in the school, and the bats are coming. And they're like, Why are the bats here? And he's like, I called them. It's like, Okay, cool. You're, there's no reason why he's evil. He's just evil. I was gonna ask you to what, and did he genetically modify these bats? We will never know why he died before he could tell us the truth. I believe he kind of has hinted maybe that he's trying to make a super soldier bats. Like, I don't, they don't really go into it. So then we now know where the bats are roosting they figure it out. So but the military is coming in because the bats have murdered an entire town, the military is going to come in and mass bomb the spot where the bats are, which is bad because bats fly. And so they will get out and mate and the entire world were be covered in bad bats. So they have to quickly now we've just got the sheriff Sheila and her assistant, they have to quickly go to the bats roosting area, and freeze them with a giant freezing machine, which they borrow from the military and get out of there before the they're either bombed or the bats wake up. Or they need to also explode, I guess the openings to this cave. So there's a lot of things happening all at once. So there's a real stressor at the end there. And of course, you know, the sexual tension between Lou Diamond Phillips is palpable, absolutely palpable. So they, you know, I don't want to spoil it. What happens, but um, let's just say there's there's a moment where you're wondering whether or not the bats truly, truly were all killed. Right before you wonder why did I wait? Could they be coming back? Actually, no, it's really great. I am gonna spoil this about kind of digs its way out of the dirt in the rubble. And he's kind of cleaning up the air and you're like, Oh my god, it's gonna be stupid. Another fucking bad movie. And then it gets run over by a truck. And I was like, Yes, that is how it should end. Thank you. No more do not have to worry about it. The piece I liked about this movie, it was definitely kind of immersion therapy for me. Oh, after my personal that incident, however, I was extremely frustrated because she looked kept saying bats don't kill people. And I was like, That's fucking kill people all the time. It's called rabies. Together lady. You're supposed to be a fucking bat expert and you don't know where rabies bumper sticker that says bats don't kill people. people kill. Now, I want that bumper sticker. It's, you know, this, the big siege moments are really fucking fun. They're done really, really well. It's just I don't know why there are three of them. And I don't know, there's like no other plot is just a bunch of stages, which is, I mean, it's great that puppets look fucking amazing. But I don't. It's the movies. Not much of a movie. The thing I don't like of course, the CGI whenever they do use it is incredibly bad. I'm the bad guy, like I said, is evil for evils sake, which sucks. And her assistant is an African American gentleman. And they just give him catchphrases the whole time and it feels like shit. It's like he could be a really cool character. And instead you guys were like, That's what she said. going in there. It's just constantly it's always delivered the same you're like Leon Come on. You were with Madonna. Like get it together. Kind of my my verdict on this is if if you're looking for something dumb and have already seeing the birds, arachnophobia Deep Blue Sea, then yeah, go for it. It feels like a fun cold film on a little higher budget than you'd normally see. The guy has great puppets great sets. But it's probably better than that of the lupus and Kingdom of spiders, and it's free on Amazon. So why not have a tiny bit of trivia there's not a lot to talk about what this movie is shot in 36 days. So very, very quick shooting schedule. of the theatrical teaser trailers included no footage from the actual film. The bats in the film were a combination of animatronics CGI, and they had to live bats. The two original bats in the film were brought over from Indonesia. There were 15 puppeteers participating in the film that handled each of the 30 bap puppets. And some of the actors in the film such as Dina Meyer, ironically, suffer from cryptic phobia or a fear of bats. They were repulsed by the puppets and the animatronics. It's just like the perfect role when you're like, I'm going to audition for a movie called bat. Sure. You know, really cover stuff. That's my pick. I remember I think it was on our one of our nature hates you episodes that I think I told you guys. I'm doing bats and I made it through about five minutes. Not doing that. Bats is are pretty tough. Watch. I mean, like, once you get to the fun parts is fun. You're like, yeah, fucking get them getting the movie theater. Yeah, getting the diner eat though. There is a moment by the way, I almost forgot. There's a baby. Like, there's like a woman who's like drying sheets. And there's a little kid playing somewhere. And there's a baby in a crib. And we see like the woman get attacked and the kid you know, the thing crawls near it. And then in the crib, there is a bat climbing towards the baby. never see what happens. Oh, just got to assume the baby guy by a bat. Yeah, let's assume the best. I mean, we're. I don't know what else would have like these are hyper aggressive, like Angry hungry bats. Like, I guess I mean, it's an easy snack. But like they didn't they didn't resolve it. And like you guys. Oh, well. Babies. Blue bat balls. It's an easy snack. Huh? Yeah, I got this on a DVD or Blu ray with some other movie that I wanted, which I can't call her moment. Yeah. So I tried to watch him on Nevermind. Or Lou Diamond, which is amazing. Can I think part of my problem is it's so bad. They're good. If they've got certain budgets and stuff, I start to expect a little bit more. And I get frustrated with those quicker Yeah. I didn't expect anything. And I think that helped a lot. I had never heard of this phone before. And I was like that, so that's gonna be some terrible 1960s you know, I was like, okay, so I was like, hey, they have a budget. That's, that's fun. Well, you both sound like you had Kelly had most of a movie. You had a little less of a movie? Yes. I don't think I had a movie. But boy, was it a fascinating Why? I'm so curious. 1990s The Black Cat. Fear, the most powerful instinct in the world. Fear and a mother's need to protect her child from the ultimate face of evil. Cat to women, one driven by love the other driven by desire, racing into a woman who will stop at nothing to get what she wants. A child trapped in a web of hideous danger, as those around him are pulled down to the depths of passion. to the brink of madness into the bowels of hell. To live face to face with the daughters of darkness. From Edgar Allan Poe's classic tale of the 21st century Film Corporation presents the black cat Edgar Allan Poe's the black cat the last word in terror. Which was just put out by Sephora in like, two or three months ago, I think. Is that based off like the Edgar Allan Poe? Well, that's what they say. Gotcha is they'll probably end up on prime at some point as well, because they seem to do that. This is not the two evil eyes say no. Oh, no, no, this is a full film. This is no, not enough ratings on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes for our critics review 23 from the crowd audience they're no idea what the budget is no idea what it did the box office supposedly fairly good in Italy, but I didn't really see any actual numbers. This was directed by Luigi cozy. told you never to call me here. Does your telephone Kilroy Oh, Kilroy he was here. I'll never get here. That thing is fucking roombas they are going to kill us. That's how we're gonna die. As humans suck on your feet. They are the game. They're gonna suck up your knives when you don't look, and they're kind of gonna come at you and you think oh, it's just cleaning and then your feet are gone. And then you're laying on the floor and then it's going to get your face and then you're dead. Please continue anyway, Director by Luigi cozy, who has come up on the show again, because he was the uncredited co director of vampire in Venice. He was also uncredited as co director of Sinbad and the seven seas. Okay, he did direct Paganini horror, which is also a seven release and also highly entertaining and terrible. The 1977 Godzilla the 1983 Hercules. You'll get an idea what this guy makes. The writers Edgar Allan Poe is credited as a writer. Oh my god. Yes. Yes. Luigi cozy is also a writer. He also wrote devilfish herculis contamination star crash Godzilla. Not starcraft? Yeah, that's right. Thomas de Quincey came on as the novelist apparently this is based on a book. So anyways, stars Florence urine, urine. She's known from top model Matha show, love sins bizarre, lots of Italian TV. Urbano Barberini, the gore movies, he plays the lead hero and demons. The guy climbs up on the helicopter near the end. Casino Royale the 16th one and at Argento is opera. Oh, he's pretty solid, Italian actor. And someone you might recognize Kelly. Carolyn Monroe. Yes, yes. From golden Voyage of Sinbad. And the amazing bikini she wears in that movie or whatever you want to call it. She's also in The Spy Who Loved Me. maniac which I did not realize she was in that 87 late 70s early 80s serial killer from gruesome gruesome movie The Haunting of margam Castle Captain Kronos Yeah. So I'm a few frames baby seconds into this movie and I'm writing this movie started off in space yes oh my wow it's starting strong and there's a baby baby in the womb floating around in space baby ception wise and Coast opening credits but they'll tell you here's where the movie got me back the opening credit band bang Tango with someone like you psycho flack I know this one lady wanders around town calling for George over the hell George's so sorry next line was this movie is going to saw so I'm hoping it's going to be the right kind of second Let me tell you it is a movie and the movie is false. The story of a genius director. Yeah, maybe you should take in the movie himself. Hey. Anyways, so although I did get a little bit opinion, better opinion of the director when he goes into his office and it's filled with dinosaur and sci fi toys. All right, here we go. The soundtrack is very demons esque with a lot of metal and was actually released in I can't remember maybe in my notes but it's either in Italy or us as demons six, six. Wait says I have cats or demons. know if either ones are presents more like a which actually Yes, they mentioned at some point they mentioned mentioned suspiria because they're talking about the new script they're gonna watch and they suspiria and then the you get the Goblin drop music cosia my god, nice. So that and whenever they mentioned this particular script, you'll get that Goblin suspiria use a trop Well, guess who paid for it, you're gonna use it. They, they then start to tell the writer and the director sitting with their wives. Well, both are actors, and they're telling them the story of what's going to be happening in this wonderfully overly melodramatic writing. With lines like tortured your heart beyond the brink of madness. Okay, that's a good tagline. Yes, I would help. I think somebody starts to hallucinate the wife starts to hallucinate because she was born to play the witch in this movie. And so she starts puking up strange green colors all over the place. Is it a dream? I don't know. But her husband's an asshole when she tries to tell him about it. Which is a frequent occurrence in Italian movies. The male hero is often a total prick to the Absolutely, yeah. Now we're back to space for just a moment. And now we see that they may have been broken. Maybe not. Who knows what's happening? Not me. She's looking for the witch and counters. This kid in the TV holding a glowing orb. Sure, what the hell. And now for some reason the fridge starts to smart spark and smoke the bit the director director guy comes down. That's not so good. opens up to the refrigerator pulls out a beer closes it. That's pretty great. Oh, and they justify the name of the movie because that in one scene, one guy quotes a line from it. That makes it worse. Yes. Let me take a moment to read you some poetry by somebody who's inspired me. Some random kid shows up and starts talking to her he looks oddly like Daria Gentiles kid if he had a boy. Weird. But ladies hallucinating seat. He wonder why I'm not telling you any kind of story. Because you haven't seen the film. So it's how the film moves. They decided they're going to meet with an expert on the occult to figure out if they're following the occult things right and get some more Goblin music, which is always nice. The lady says you shouldn't do this change the name of the witch you're going to pull the witch back if you don't change her name, and she will destroy us all or whatever. And then for some reason, they cut to a toy train set with weird lighting. But the kid with the orb turns on and off or something. It's on the TV. I don't know. Although I did think it was kind of interesting. The TV for a TV stand looked like it was the end it was the top of a space orbit pinball machine. Oh, that's a weird way to use a pinball machine. Gonna make it really hard to play pinball. I can't wait. It's packed down space shot. No baby this time. The movie actually looks really cool at times. It's incredibly it's very obviously inspired by Argento. Like when somebody goes into this old house that's filled with webs. These are the ultimate movie webs. I mean, these are like seven or eight giant spiders working for 18 years maybe. And they're all lit with bright blood red light. It looks really cool. And a lot of times this movie actually looks really good. It looks a lot better than it deserves story wise. But wait. It's a producer supposed to make the movie? Is he dead now because his house was fine earlier on in the movie. But now it's all covered in a web space fetus where the space is less the web's how it came back and appeared Oh, bang tangles returned for a second thing so you know it's rocking in again. Like that I actually wrote this this ending is hard to describe. It's another one of those I think I've done this on a couple movies in the past but it has lasers and explosions throat slicing crazy lights, crazy sounds. maggots boils the sort of gentle looking kid and the lady telling him when the game is over. mutans spells Hellraiser Ensign sequence style effects and of course, space shots. Hellraiser and sequence Yes, no bad light effects. Remember the Hellraiser with the homeless guy picks up? Oh, yeah. Like Barker like those themselves? Yep. I'm pretty sure somebody did the same thing. What Did he do there? Let's do that. And then some weird crazy wrap up that sort of explains everything that happened after the final battle but nothing else. So there is a decent amount of trivia to this film. Is the trivia include the plot there is the space VDS controlling what's going on on no idea? I don't know the space fetuses. Okay, it's just it's just we keep calling back to it at key moments. Yep, I'm sure there's somebody might know sanction. But maybe it's a cursed I'm gonna have to make something up my brain is like not handling this movie. The movie actually started off as a suspiria. There's the Argento three which trilogy, but the third one was 97 or something. So it was years off before it was going to be made. And it was originally pitched as being that third three of the three mothers trilogy even though he wasn't drawn out of it. Interesting. One of the actors found that out one of the lead actors who'd worked a lot with on our mother's chairs in 2007. But worked a lot with our gentle got so angry with this interpretation of the movie, she quit the film had to replace her role. And then they they they brought on Luigi, the director who also disagreed with the idea of ripping off Argento. So they sort of altered the script and retitled and but left the touches of talking about suspiria like in the script and things but said, This isn't a three mothers movie. Yeah. And it has absolutely nothing to do with your Allen's Black Cat. But it is a demon six movie, so it was just put out as my next nutbag now right into this release from Sephora, and was the first home video release of this film. And it had been released in certain territories around the world as demon six, just as a way to sell it. It was also advertised as an unofficial sequel to suspiria and Inferno but he the Luigi the director, runs the profound profondo Russo store, which is a Daria Magento store in Rome. Oh wow. So he knows Argento very well. That's a store and like a little museum. I saw a documentary on some seven disc where they go down and he gives you a tour of all the stuff they have. They're from Argento films. That's cool. Now I I've been to Rome. Fuck me a night. Like Damn. He also nods back to suspiria in our Gentiles work with the way he lived it. It was intentional look that they wanted to homage to our gentle with their was bankrolled by 20th century Film Corporation is a post canon films. Movie. How did that pitch meeting were? Well, gold on how do we say his name was involved and getting it made. Which is weird, because it's very, it's not very sexual at all. And there's very little violence really, there's some gross stuff, but there's not a lot. The bank Tango and white lion each have three songs in the film. And the presentation of the white line songs are done so bizarrely, though, like the White Lion have a female singer for a while. Because it sounds like a woman is singing at least two of the three songs. Wow. I kind of went but I went back and I looked up those songs online and listen to us. I know that's him. Mike tramp? Yes, that's right. reach for the stars right here, Vanessa? I didn't have to think about that. My music knowledge is so bad. They were asking me who the governor of Seattle is governor Seattle. Mayor of Seattle. No idea. Why would I know that? It's a lady that's dying. I'm not surprised. Yeah, no, it makes sense. No, absolutely. That's Kelly. Bang Tango sounds great. In the movie. Oh, man. Some of the music has done so poorly. where it's like, they're going from point A to point B and for some reason, instead of just a nice suspense movie. It's like bang Tango. She's going down the stairs like where? Is she going into an action movie? What? So, but I tell you, it is worth watching. Really? After all that is absolutely so bad. It is highly entertaining. Do you need to be stoned or drunk times? Not so Oh. I might have liked it a lot more. Is that college? Try It's so crazy that you're like okay, I mean, I'm pretty intrigued especially since you're saying it doesn't it's not like overly violent No. Like, it just sounds like a fascinating weird ass watch. Like performance are Italian. Yes. There you go. All right, well, I'm putting that on my No need to watch. Means Eric, then you've got the next pick for the next episode. I do well, we've done a few of these in the past we're gonna just blow it up, because we've been kind of suspicious for suspicious specific for a few episodes, and anything that arrow video has released. That can be streaming or on disk. So wide open. Wow, that's a prolific amount 1000s of titles. I love this because if I haven't mentioned it already, I finally joined the arrow streaming channel. And really love it. So yeah, I can't wait. Okay, well, that means this is the end of the episode. This is where we say thanks to everybody who's doing the value for value model with us and we really appreciate that the liking and sharing of posts speaking of Oh, we do have a Etsy store. We have an Etsy store shirts. It's got underwear and Zan, women's underwear and Little things like I think some stickers or so little things like that as well. Because they are good quality we received. Yeah, samples of most of the things we're selling and they're, they're good. I love my underwear. Yeah. The women's shirt was extremely soft. And the men's shirt as well. I can vouch for that. So okay, well, I think that's about it for today. 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