135 SHOOT THAT POISON ARROW!
Kelly's eyesight is ridiculously bad, and the gang picks movies from Arrow Films/Videos. Also discussed: "What If?", "Free Guy", and "The Devil Within Her".Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/strangeaeonsr)
Welcome Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That's Vanessa over there. It sure is. I'm Kelly. Hey guys, how great was cryptic on so good. My favorite. So full disclosure, we are recording this before crypto. We have no idea if it was great, but we can only assume it was barring some kind of hairy situation where kinetically killed us all. You know, enjoy the last episode. I saw so good missed, missed all of them. But I bought some cool stuff. And I had some drinks. It was amazing. I'll do it again next year. I'm sure the celebrities Whoa, Joe, Bob, if all goes well, for Joe, Bob, I'm gonna like lose my shit. If all goes well, well, we were supposed to record a live edition of Strange Aeons radio. And I'm going to assume that that is what we are going to record. I don't think there will be anybody in the audience. But maybe there will be Yeah, it sounds like buy ticket sales. The cryptic con is well under what it normally is. So this could just be a very intimate event that happened. We'll let you know when we know. Right. But regardless of what is going on, we will record an episode there. We're going to do kind of a I don't know if I call it a deep dive but a side dive on the thing. And hopefully, that'll be released as bonus content here shortly. Sounds good. You know what, guys, I need to get my eyes checked. And I've known this for a while. But the other day, I was down in Ballard, which is a neighborhood down in Seattle and I had to run I was working on my car, I had to run to the O'Reilly's, get an oil filter for it. And as I was driving back down through Ballard on market Avenue, which is full of little shops and everything, I see that somebody has left their dog outside the door of a shop, and it looks very for lawn right? And I'm like, oh, what's wrong, buddy? As I'm driving up, and I realized as I get closer, it is a statue. And it is not even a statue of a dog. It is like a buffalo or a bison or something? Like oh, Kelly, you probably shouldn't even be driving. So I can only assume you're short sighted. Because if you couldn't read you would have addressed this long ago. Yeah, I well, without my contacts and like blind as a bat. I've got all like, right up to my nose. Yeah, that's I have to hold a phone about a foot and a half away. And it sucks. I'm like, oh man, if this was the olden days, I would I'd be illiterate now. Yeah, that's true. Man when I first moved to Seattle, because I moved from, you know, small town in Idaho. And I knew I didn't have great eyesight, but I was okay, I could read the board and all that shit like you need to do in school. But I got up here and I getting to try to exit there are no freeway exits in Twin Falls, or you have to read when the freeway exit is. Oh, shit. Okay, time to actually go get some glasses. All right, I'm gonna be driving in circles that a lot. And I knew I needed to do this. And I've got insurance to do it and all that stuff. And I've just kind of been blowing it off. And now of course, we're going into having to wear masks all the time again. And I'm like, I don't want to try on glasses wearing a mask and not owing trust. And actually, I did that at the start of the pandemic. I went I got a new pair of glasses. I was really excited. I thought they looked amazing. Everyone in the shop was like, yeah, by the way, wear a mask early pandemic days. Oh, God, the glasses paid way too much money because I don't have insurance. Oh, geez. Yep. And they look awful. Oh, no, I hate them. They're sitting in a drawer. I'm wearing a prescription too old for them. But I just can't I can't wear those. And I'm like, I'm too ashamed. I'm like, I don't know what to do. These frames are like Italian and they're really, too can I sell glasses on eBay? I don't know. I would imagine they can pop out the lenses and put in different Oh, yeah. So yeah, yeah, good. So I'm like, I'll see if I can I just it Yes. Do what I'm saying is now go Now when you can see the bottom half of your face does in fact matter. Yeah, I think so. Now I want to see them. You open this up and now you got to bring them so bad guys next year. I'll just where I'm at crypto con. Everyone be like, weird girl. fucking ugly glasses. They're huge on her Doesn't she know? Jesus? Oh man. Well, so with my poor eyesight I did see a couple of things this week. Oh, no. Did you did you see a couple through the blurry I bet this is awesome. And I bet you guys are watching this also on Disney plus, what if it is, in fact your? Yes, I've only seen the first one but BAM is good. I've seen both of them and fucking hate it. You do? I hate it. Wow. Can you explain why? Um, yeah, absolutely. Um, the first one I felt like it was just a rehash of Captain America First Avenger, but with the check. And I felt like it felt cheap. It felt fast. It felt the the voice actors are great. I didn't like the animation. Personally. Quick question. Have you ever read a lot of comics? I have not. That's what the what if comments are, I'm sure in this. The second was read their green or not green or something. But I feel like they're also like, oh, remember this funny pit in the movie when blah, blah, blah. Let's just use that again. And I'm like, I you know, I don't know it just the second one I feel like is better because it adds a little bit more new ground. But I also hate the use of pianos like hardcore. So I don't know it's not i'm not loving it. But I'm glad you guys are and I think anybody who reads What if probably will really enjoy it. It has very much the feel of the what if comics because one single issue would then cover an entire section of you know, of a character's background that has been changed. They would just touch on these major incidents that had changed because of it, so I thought it felt a lot like that. And I can't believe you don't like the animation though. Just fucking gorgeous. They did a good job. It's just not my style. I think there's just something about it looks a little bit like the Disney Animation, so it's really well done. It's just for me. I can't it feels not uncanny valley but it feels like a little too close to people but not I don't know. There's something about it that's bugging me. I'm like I know what these people are supposed to look like. And it's a little bit hard to watch them in animated form. Especially when like Carter gets big like this is really weird. Amazonian is just like you know, just like Steve Rogers that no no I mean it's good I thought part of the plot make sense but I just meant visually I'm like trying to connect the actress to what's happening well I will respectfully disagree and just like everything I agree with me everything I say of course yeah you're wrong on this if you were start arguing with yourself it's gonna be a really interesting show. Kelly you're full of shit no I am you should see me lying awake and doing exactly that Yeah. Oh no. Well I'm glad you both and Eric I assume you really liked it too. Oh yeah. What was it that stood out for you that that you liked about it that it was what what if it was exactly what what it should be just which is taking shit that's already been done in the Marvel Universe and slightly altering it to and then showing what might have happened if it had well it's a nice it's a nice like side quill to locate to see what his damage to the multiverse has done now we're starting to see all this actually didn't even think about that. So that's that is interesting. I do like the idea of multiverse and using this as a pivot point and I think that overarching like with the watcher or whatever it is obviously because he's like I never interfere I'm like you're by the end of this you're fucking interfering like let's let's be honest here. The funniest thing about the watcher in the comics was I cannot interfere and every time it showed up, it was like well, just this one it's tempted like it's just a really a story about temptation. That's Yeah, the watcher has always been a weird character. But I do like that instead of making him look like the watcher and the comics. They've kind of made them look like eternity. Yeah, just a little more interesting. Yeah, he kind of look Did he just kind of look like outerspace my crazy? Not in the comment? No, no, I mean, yeah, in the cartoon. Yeah. Oh, come on comics. He's just a big ball. Dude. The giant game baby. Yeah, God that's upsetting. It really is. How do you cast that? Anyone who gets that role like Billy, I need to be those that were tall enough though. Anyways, well I checked out a film in the theater that I've been waiting. Two years to see. And on bated breath. Oh, which was the Ryan Reynolds film free guy. I remember seeing trailers for this before locked down and being like, Huh, that looks fine. I'm, I'm excited enough that I'll go. Yeah. And that feeling has lingered for two years to the point where I'm like, I really have to fucking see this film. Because I've mildly been interested in it for so long, but I'm almost passionate about going out and checking it out. I'm okay, this movie is incredibly fucking stupid. I fucking loved it. I loved it so much are great things about it. Awesome stuff I've seen has been pretty positive. Yeah, it's I just, I mean, I like the whole sort of Truman Show esque elements to it. And if you like video games, there's some really good nods to the game world that they're not like super, super clever. They're not like somebody who plays in is really, really plugged into the game community. But it is enough that I think that people who wrote this are pretty passionate about games, so it doesn't feel false. It doesn't feel like stupid. It feels like fuck yeah. And then you got this fucking thing. And there's a portal gun and they never say it's the portal gun. You're just like, that's the portal gun. Oh, my god, you're using it. So I want to see it. I am. I mean, this is the most positive review. I've heard of it. Honestly, I realized that it is a extremely average movie. Right. But it you know, Ryan Reynolds is pretty likable. So if you like Ryan Reynolds, I'd say this is a really fun view. And just in general, I don't know. I think I'm just really craving fun content all around. And so watching worlds get built and destroyed and strangeness and like, I don't know, that's just like my whole fucking jam. So I just enjoyed the shit out of it. And of course, type Tyco ytt is pretty fun. It's fun to watch him be an asshole. He's in the Yeah, he's like a major role in it. You know, this. I'll go back to my planned one here in just a sec. But a quick sidebar, he said watching happy things. And if you have Apple TV, if you do Ted lasso is everything. You've heard about it? It is so goddamn good. Really? Yeah, I keep hearing it to watch the first like nine episodes of season one. I think it's 10 or 11. And it's fantastic. He is so good in that movie. And it's such a it looks like such a one dimensional character for about two episodes. And then suddenly, whoa, okay, this is neat. Okay, I have to check it out. Because I am just like, that's the content I need. Right? It's a good it's a good for that. It's really good for that. Even when kind of crappy things happen. It's handled in a way like, Oh, I'm gonna hate this person. When you see it. You know, it's coming. I hate that person. When that happens. And then it happens you Holy shit. They did that so well. That it is still kind of painful to watch. But I don't hate either party involved. Yeah, unlike me, I watch. Remember, a few weeks back and Kelly's favorite episode ever the winter episode, right? About winter beast came in a box set of local horror. And so I watched another one. No, not quite as good, although it did also have stopped motion it as well. The problem was, and I was what is the movie called fatal exam. Okay, oh, I've definitely seen the cover of this. I was all in for about half 2030 minutes, because it has that fun. Here's a bunch of buddies getting together to make a movie. And they're being goofy. And you can tell they know each other. And it's that local reasoning, then I look and notice the movies, just a little under two hours long. And this is not going to hold up for two hours, it'd be pushing it to hold up for 17 minutes. So and it really doesn't it is it could so easily be cut to there's so much fluff in this film. It's painful. Which is sad because I said I love that. Nobody making a movie just because we can and it's fine. Let's just make a movie and they somehow pull off something crazy like winter beast. This was unfortunately not that. But then I started watching one of the they have a really good documentary which has the director, the writer and like three or four of the stars being interviewed, or the lead actors being interviewed. And there are a lot of fun Mark I can see why for at least a little while you're kept me going watching this movie. And maybe if I'd sat and watched it in for half hour segments are better but that's disappointing. But no, it still looks great. remastered, like the love they always get into vinegar syndrome really bastard like they always give that love. So when you watch these long kind of spirally movies where you can see that there's something in there, but it's not quite at the forefront because they've just spent too much time wasting time. Do you ever just want to like recut it? Oh, god, yes. Yeah. Like, like, what if I just take it and then put it on YouTube? Got it to like a real good, like decent night. There's so many segments where there's like seven or eight people in a room and he's got to get every person's reaction. Like, oh, I don't watch Lord of the Rings extended edition. I don't give a fuck what animal care is doing with his eyes in that moment. All right, just move on. That was a strange leap. Sorry, I'm just thinking of times where I don't want to see other people's reaction shots for I'm guessing, you know, a budget movie that had you know, maybe Gandalf robe would cover the budget. You know, I thought that sounds like a perfect future sub genre movies. Gandalf robe, people making movies in them? Yeah. Oh, I like that seem to be a thing in the 90s. Oh, God. Yeah. Absolutely. I know which one I will. I say I know which one I want that. Another one. How do I know there's at least two that I really would love to talk about. There's the others one I love to talk about and wouldn't talk about. And then there's another one I could talk about. I watched a movie called The devil within her slash Sharon's baby. Joan Collins, Donald Pleasance, and Caroline Monroe. And I did this because I was doing research for our upcoming episode that we're talking about arrow stuff. And this episode, yes. It was so awful. Oh, no, that I just wanted to throw shit at the TV. Didn't like pull it out. He was fine. Yeah, Joan Collins was over the top. I'm not surprised. Gentlemen row was beautiful, but not enough. Not enough. And, and this was a a woman who's had a baby and the baby, of course is the devil's baby. And it just falls apart immediately. Like, fuck, I really wanted this to be great. It's a it's a new movie. No, no, no. Oh, okay. Remember Donald Pleasance died several years ago. I did not remember that. But now I'm sad. Jane. Crawford. jepto. Collins, Collins. You know what? I don't follow schar around y'all follow movies. Yeah. Well, it was bad. And I I feel it needs to be said, quit telling me this movie is good. It's bad. Here. Was it me so I'm good. However, when we get to the next segment, and we're talking about our aerofilms you'll be interested to see what I did. I am totally interested. I mean, I'm interested in why Eric because I can see his box. So no, no, no. Okay. Not again. Um, john Collins is still alive. She was born in 1933. So she is not young, but she's still Wow, that is amazing. At 33 could be 80s. Well, I talked about this a little bit before, but I finished watching Wayward Pines season one. Wasn't there just one season. Now there's two that I've been told not to watch the second one. I mean, the first one ends on a really fucking stupid cliffhanger. Like you spend the whole season. Have you guys seen? I've tried. I'm trying to remember what it was. But he did it. I don't think I watched the second season. I enjoyed most of the first season. But I think I even watched the second one. If Yeah, you spend the whole season building up to this idea of they're trying to get out of the town, or at least the lead Gaius, and like, what is the what is going on outside the walls? And you know, what is this giant, bigger thing happening? And then you figure it out, and then it gets resolved. And then it's like building and building and building. And finally you get like, kind of the good resolution, where you're like, yeah, I could see whether or not they do a season two, like I can see this being the next season. That would be a really fun. Let's see where they take this next. And instead, they could go 10 years later or whatever, right? Yeah, yeah. Anyway, watch the second season. Yeah, no, and then it goes back to step one. They're like remember the beginning of season one. Season Two is going to start in that city. Place, but now the kids are running the town. I'm like, fuck y'all. I'm out. That's like piece. Three or four books, I think. Yeah. So there's a portion of information left on the floor there would be really good to have seen, like, that missing time period because there's a lot that was interesting that could have happened. It was like Battlestar Galactica when they did that with the four season comedy, and they're like, they've been there long enough. Like, I don't know, it wasn't that long, but it seemed like it was just an insanely long time. Yeah. Yeah, actually, like three years. I think it was three years. But yeah, you're like, Man, this is a shitty planet to try to live on guys. I saw one that was better. I think, Kelly, I think you talked about this a couple of weeks ago, but Jacobs wife. Yes. Which I thought I had seen but then I started watching. I have not seen this and it is so good. Very good. So much fun. It's on shatter now. Yeah. Okay. Well, we're seeing if you haven't, I've got it on my Halloween list. I'm really excited for it. It's got a it has so many it's a good story. It's, I mean, it's the stories. Good enough. But the the moments and the performances. By fast Fassbender Yes. And cramp Barbara Crampton are top notch. It's the best movie she's been in enabled at all. Now years and years. She is so good. And he is so good. And there are moments like I was talking about that Ted last or they were you see something coming. And you know that moments happening. And it's so good. And so well handled, like the reveal with the wife and the when the guy figures out what's going on that moment was so good was like, this is a cool moment, then that scene happened on off. This is a really well written film. And it's highly highly recommended. Really cut. It's one of those things, you know, all these actors have to take whatever scripts come their way, when you're at a certain level, because you got to pay the rent, you got to pay the bills and everything. But this is a script that she found and then developed for herself. Oh, yes. Oh, you know, he was just like, I need to play this character. And it really comes across as very, very much a passion project. So that's all very good. Made me Yeah. Made me feel good to see her and something good because it has been while Yeah. Alright guys, well, how about we take a little break. And then when we come back, we're talking about arrow distribution. We have returned Eric, this was your sub genre, you want to want to explain what it is again, right? It's kind of like I think we did it with a shout factory where we just picked up something out of their catalogue and talk about it. You know, every once in a while we get a I don't know like winter, where at least one of us is horribly frustrated trying to find one. So it's feeling attacked. So it's fun to just open it wide up. An arrow is actually a much bigger boutique company than I thought it was. They have especially between the UK like version, the US distribution and the online. There's a lot under there. Yeah, I was really surprised, you know, because now I am watching the arrow streaming service, too. And when you first suggested this, I was like, I know exactly what I'm going to pick. And that is not at all what I picked. At the time, I got to actually looking at things so yeah, I'm very excited to see what you guys picked. Yeah. And arrow's a UK company, right? Okay. I couldn't tell if they were just UK especially if they actually UK based or UK based. I remember when I was working for a Netflix knockoff, we used to get a bunch of stuff from arrow because they were like just a little shop basically was like one guy in a room sending stuff over just be like, Oh, no, here. Give me a couple books. And now it's fucking awesome. Yes, it's phenomenal. Like Well, the show we dive in then the movie I picked was Tokyo fist From 1995 this is one that quick stuff here is on blu ray. Yes, it's blu ray part of the sumach Tsukamoto supermodel. He has a kamado box that one of the films he made and it is also I believe it's streaming on arrow right now as well. And you've brought you've brought the box show and tell. Yeah, I gotta say boy, they put together a nice package. Yeah, they do a good they do a good solid outline box. So it's not just a cheap piece of cardboard and they sleeves for there's at least two movies on every one of the discs. There are definitely a number of aerofilms I've bought because they have good box. Yeah. Yep. So this was it only had two reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, which is a little surprising. So there's no Rotten Tomato critic score. But the audience was like more than 500 is 77. highly rated. It's said low budget. It looks low budget, but I could not find specifics. He's kind of an underground director. He is very well known, but he's not particularly very well. Box Office. tased Shinya Tsukamoto, who is best known for Tetsuo, the Iron Man, and the series of there's three of those films. Nelson has done a movie called vital and Hayes and bullet ballet is supposed to be quite good. That was the other one. I almost did. But I settled on Tokyo fist. This was directed by him, of course. Writer Hisashi see Otto who's also done when Gan Bad Boy Blue, and bicycle sighs okay. Also and he the director also wrote part of the film. It stars hero to sudah who's been in ring ring ring, the champion belt of tears. Beautiful. I don't know juwan the curse wanting to he is the lead actor. The director is also the lead actor in the film. He's also been in sexually acted in a lot of films including Shin Godzilla, most of his own movies dead or alive, too. And ichi the killer by Takashi is past me K or is it Mike? I am not sure but probably the most notorious Japanese filmmaker Yeah, no kidding. Koji suka motto is brother play. The opposing boxer in the film, so him and his brother are beating the crap out of each other in this movie. And they he starred in several oceans, movies, and sexy guards in their ripped uniforms. He gets john Carpenter style credits on his film, where it's like his name is above the title a lot of times because he does most of stuff in the movie, I'll get to that later on. But I'm about a minute into the movie when I realized this is going to be a crazy ass film. I have seen Tetsuo that's the only one of his other one of his I've seen those expecting a little weirdness. Boy, the camera work and the sound are just turned all the way up in this movie, it is crazy. It's borderline our genre because it's really a boxing relationship movie. Wow. But the way it's shot and shown is right up the alley. Many horror fans will find a lot to like in this movie, cool. The lead starts out as our Shin starts out basically as like a lame insurance agent. He's asked to do menial tasks by his other co workers and Richie does. film has an amazing blue tint to it at this point, which is really an interesting choice. And I thought maybe the whole movie is going to be that but as you go on in the story changes, he adjusts the hue of the film that's very well done. I lovely disgusting shot of a dead cat being eaten by a bunch of maggots. The sound is far worse than the imagery on that one. And now as he's approaching home, the tone and the image of the film starts to go more of a green yellow. My take on it after as the film went a little bit further was it might have been indicative of the insane jealousy that this character is about to show. So it goes from Blue where he's just born and living life to this green yellow when he gets really jealous. So he's, he's at work, he comes across the dead cat on the way home or something as walking home. This is a dead kid. It's just like, I don't know why there are a lot of images like this. This film is very, very, very visual. The storyline is very simple. But it is told in such a fascinating way. He is a he is an incredibly good filmmaker. He comes home and his wife is there with his old friend from college I think it is. But it's kind of obvious that he's there hitting on her is this is not his wife. It's his fiance. They do there's one segment that I really didn't understand going on to the movie toys reading a little bit afterwards. But apparently in Japan death is very sometimes almost cold and very separate. And he keeps going to the hospital his thing and I thought he was getting tests but it turns out his way the thing I think his mother who's dying it's just very different tone. It's very clinical looking. It looks completely different from the rest of the movie. Although he does have some weird tests at times. The moment you kind of rise what this guy's got some real problems is his wife gets a picture of herself published in like what looks like her works. newsletter or something kind of a sexy look. She's got a one piece bathing suit on nothing that evocative but he loses his shit. Like why are you looking that way? And what are you doing with that? And it's like, Okay. The next scene is the the boxer friend of his has shown up again. And it's on our hard drives to kiss her. She stops that but of course, her her fiance doesn't believe that she stopped that and his jealousy continues to escalate. He goes over to confront the his boxer friend who beats the shit out of this is Yeah, this is where you get the violence in this film. It's brutal. When he hits people and knows flying apart and blood flying everywhere, like Oh, wow. guy knows how to put violence in his bodies. So he does not do well on that but decides and his fiance is not interested in this at all. Once he gets his ass kicked, she starts to change, goes over to the boxers place and starts hanging out with him and starts piercing her own body and gets a tattoo. Which again, I'm gone. I know I'm missing symbolism here. So I looked up and tattoos especially this was in the mid 90s. So tattoos were still very forbidden, very, super rebellious to do something like that. And piercing was not far behind, at least anything beyond like years. And she's doing all the piercing herself which if you've seen Tetsuo the guy knows how to put metal through his flesh. So the he decides she basically leaves him and he decides he's going to learn to become a boxer by going to the gym. His friend or ex friend is practicing out. So they're basically exercise, learning to box in the same gym. Okay? The professional boxer is going to get into harder and harder fights. And they're sort of the rocky vs clubber Lang scene where a fighter gets killed in the ring by the next fighter he's gonna fight. So they do a nice job of these three characters are, are explored. They're looked at fairly well, especially the female character who would most films would just be a generic thing. She is very strange and very hard to figure out in this movie, but also really interesting because of it. I'm really surprised that they spent time on that because usually, it's like, the wife might be troublesome and then they killer or she goes to her mom's or whatever you never see or you know, it goes a little deeper than that. I almost want a little more for her, but they did at least do a fair amount. Or are we being asked to identify with the jealous guy though? Is he kind of really or not really, it's just like, observe it or be like looking at it top down? Yeah, it's much more of that. It's much more you because you start off that way. But as soon as he goes hard, jealous, it's really hard to stick with him. And he continues to get darker and meaner as the movie moves on. But as this as the motivation and energy between the two guys increases, she starts as she sees more violence, she starts piercing herself more and a little more violently. There are amazing scenes of Tokyo presented in a way I've barely ever seen Tokyo presented in a movie where it feels grimy. It feels darker and ominous, like you finally like it looks like Tokyo. Realistically speaking is a very clean city. Yes, still a large city. So there's still dread and scary shit that goes on with it. I love that they explore that because they work so hard to keep that image of we're perfect. And you won't even find gum on the sidewalk. Exactly, yes. The progression between the three characters continues and the boxer guy kind of starts to lose. Once he finds out who he's fighting, he kind of loses some of his violence. And as soon as he does that, the lead lady starts taking all of her piercings out. Except covering her tattoos and stuff that's so it's, they're interesting people to watch. You don't it's not in your face, why they do what they do all the time, except for his jealousy. But they're, they're doing things they're going towards some kind of a destination. And they all have terrible relationships go skills. Another yet another interesting musical note that reminded me of suspiria the ending of the film is of course comes down to the two of them battling each other and it's really gruesome battles, like in a in a match or Street, Oak Street Fight kind of thing. And I gotta be honest, by the end of this film, I had that beaten up feeling this film works you over the films where you feel you've gone on some kind of a journey or something like that, and you walk out watching it with a definite feeling. Film gives you that and it's a it's a rough one. It's set at the end kind of gone. That's very kinetic It is always moving. Something's always going on really dark film, not a lot of plot, but that's okay. It ended up on several best of film lists in Japan after it was made. It was sort of a comeback for him. He'd been kind of fading as a filmmaker and this one pushed him right back to the top of whatever you want to whatever world he is in top him. He was the director, writer, producer, lead actor, dp editor and art director Christ so he earns the above the film by all the visuals. It sounds like all of it just manicured by this guy. Yes, very much. So. They like the way IMDb listen is nihilistic and misanthropic. Yep, that it was praised for the way it dealt with the city of Tokyo for making it up. I guess you could almost say it's four characters because Tokyo is very prevalent in this. It's sort of like 70s New York movies where New York is definitely a part of the story. Tokyo is definitely a part of this story. He started off like he wanted thinking he is going to make a fairly realistic boxing movie. But that just wasn't started. He wanted to tell as it went along. Yeah, kind of got away from him. Yeah. He wanted to punch punching in the boxing to look like life and death level stuff. And they do. There's, if this was real boxing matches, I'm pretty sure somebody is dead at the end of every one of them. The brother is was a professional boxer. And was actually teaching boxing at the time this movie was being put together. I went to the brother after he has he just couldn't get the skill level from actors. He wanted real boxing. So he went to his brother and hired him to teach him how to box. And they spent a year together training. Wow, to fight. And it shows these guys look like chaotic but professional boxers, man, you know, you're not gonna see Queen fights in this film, because nothing in this movie is clean. Yeah, that's a hell of a film. I mean, it's so funny because I feel like this director makes stuff that feels a lot like the Edo comics, where it's not quite, you know, it's not quite as bodily disgusting and to that level, but there's there is a disturbing this that is explored. That is really fascinating. Yeah, yeah, he's very good at doing. Have you ever seen tetsuzo? I have. Yeah. So you know what I'm talking about when I say kinetic and yeah, crazy. Without the stop motion, and might have to look and see if this is streaming. Yeah. Because it sounds interesting. Yeah, absolutely. Sounds like a good pic. Oh, yeah. I was surprised. But yes, they had to be the end of the movie, though. Just about you. Yeah. So I definitely went on the other end of things. You picked a film that was probably going to be really good. And I picked a film that I knew is going to be pretty bad. But it was on my shelf that I hadn't seen it yet. So I thought, you know what, today's the day. I'm cracking this bad boy open. So I saw the 2006 Classic Southland tales. Can we call it a classic? I mean, I was one of those kids that like I was the right age during Donnie Darko and I thought it was the fucking coolest thing I've ever seen in my entire goddamn life. And so I knew Southland tales was insane and A lot of people thought it was a horrible and I was watching Buffy at the time, so I was like, I'm not even going to watch it. So I won't watch sir Michelle, killer soak. So, I'm a different person than I was. Yeah, I think there's a lot to like in this movie. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we'll get there. Um, Rotten Tomatoes, though. What are the critics think? 39% for them. Audience has it at 41% So, these two percentage point differences are hot with us. lately. The budget of this movie was 17 million. The box office $374,743 275 of that was from the US and 99 from the UK and Turkey combined. Wow. Yeah. I would have said that was Film Festival shillings. But why the UK and Turkey? It was it they they did in fact, release it wider. But just know. Nobody came. They built it and no one came. Yeah. This is written directed by Richard Kelly. Which I mentioned Donnie Darko. He's written seven projects and directed five. Most of which you don't, wouldn't have heard of, except for the three most recent which is Donnie Darko Southland tales and the box. So with that kind of a failure you think why on earth was he allowed to do the box after it's because he was already writing it and already had to deal while he was doing Southland hills. So like he was on set of Southland getting in pre pro for the box. Wasn't that a massive failure to i don't know i don't think it was a massive failure so much as it was just a soso movie and yeah, this is a twilight zone episode that was too long exam. He also wrote Domino which I was kind of surprised about but the music is by Moby. Moby typically does not lend his himself. This is a common theme. By the way. He does not typically lend himself but he was so impressed by Donnie Darko that he jumped on board, which is going to explain the cast here. Yeah, so I'm not going to go into who these people are, because you will know. And if you really are curious, look it up. There's too many there. I mean, there's fucking too many people. So we have starring the rock. Sarah Michelle Gellar, Sean William Scott, Justin Timberlake, Mandy Moore, Jon Lovitz, john larroquette, Christopher Lambert, Wallace, Sean, Kevin Smith, Janine garofolo Amy Poehler and Sheri oteri Lord Yeah, that's a cast and there's a chance I've missed some people like it's constantly I'm like, Wait is that oh weird? Like I didn't get Kevin Smith because he's so covered and makeup in this film. But anyway, the plots so I tried really hard guys to watch this to make sure I was really following the plot because I knew that that was going to be the challenge of this film. So this is why I walked away from the near future of LA, July 4 2008. The world is going to end and the character boxer Centaurus aka the rock and Krista now a porn star Sarah Michelle Gellar have written a screenplay that perfectly depicts how the world will end boxer a movie star has been missing for some time and his family are looking for him. He doesn't necessarily know he's missing. Sean William Scott is looking for his twin brother, but also falling in and out of consciousness. And he has been set up to follow through with a complicated plot to catch boxer in a compromising situation on tape, where his family will need to basically pay a bunch of money and hush money. Now, the people they're paying that to is this Marxist extremist group that has its grips all over the town. In fact, pretty much everybody's story is linked in some way or another to this Marxist extremist movement. They are also interested in taking down the Rock's mother in law, who is a politician of her election. Everyone including them is basically being set up by Wallace Shawn, aka Baron von westphalen, who has built a tide machine that will get rid of fuel dependence. So and he has been tricked by his assistant who has kept it a secret that when the rock went missing, he crossed a line into time travel, a duality that will end the world by collapsing the fourth dimension Well that is probably just one of the ways in which the world might end the tide machine might also do it social unrest is like insane right now that might do it. And there's a crazy new drug that also will probably end the world. That is the film. That is the fight. Now what I the things that actually stuck out to me a few highlights. The Rock is super slender in this movie. I was like, Damn the rock. You are like, okay to us, he would be like a built up dude. But compared to the rock, as the rock is now, I was like, you're like fucking anemic. You're like nothing. You're like a little puny dude. He looks like a size large, like literally just a size large. This was his first main acting role. Other than being, of course, the rock. Aside from Voyager and pain and gain I think this is the only other time that he really like tries to act like something other than the character he's honed. At this point. I noticed in one shot, Eli Roth gets shot and on a toilet. So that was exciting. That is only one of three toilet scenes that are prominent in this film. The cast of SNL basically get to do a sketch comedy in the middle of it. Amy Poehler and Cheri oteri get to do a lot of fun things together. Curtis Armstrong of better off dead snows. Snow sniffing fame, gets to stand next to john larroquette. And Shawn Wallace occasionally saying things I was like, I know that face Who the fuck is this? I was like, it's the best friend. I have no idea what else he's done, but I was like, really stoked about that. This is a booger and Revenge of the Nerds. I know he's in one hot summer. I'm pretty sure okay, that's Yeah, yeah. He's putting in a lot. Yeah. I mean, he's, but who cares aside from better off, and john Barrett head gets his balls tasered. That's fun. Sean Wallace and Zelda Rubinstein are typecast, basically to play characters that they are already famous for. Which is too bad because they both took it thinking that they would get to act in a way which the director promised would not be typecast, but he's literally doing The Princess Bride. And she's literally doing Poltergeist so yeah, it's pretty bad. Jon Lovitz has white hair and plays a killer cop in love with Cheri oteri. It's fun. Mandy Moore and Sarah Michelle Gellar do an interpretive dance on zipline. Christopher Lambert is in acting as an arms dealer who does a lot of things for seemingly no reason. Kevin Smith is an army general with no legs and a lot of makeup. who talks to a hot By the way, she's fucking stunning in this Janine garofolo. But neither of them have as much makeup on as Sean Wallace who is fully dragged out. It's kind of phenomenal for no reason, which is fine. Sean William Scott talks to himself on a floating ice cream truck while a kid stands on top ready to take down the zipline with a rocket launcher given to him for seemingly no reason, again, by Christopher Lambert and to CGI cars to have graphic sex. So those are just a couple of highlights from this film. Um, for free and trivia I I did really like it. There was a lot of really interesting things happening and my mind was doing this sort of constant puzzle box. But it's also a very bad movie. The story is insane. And I'll get into that with the trivia as to why that happened. But I don't know how to feel about it. It's complex. It it certainly doesn't have the payoff that Donnie Darko does at the end where you're just like, oh, okay, this all suddenly clicks into place and you're expecting that at the end of this movie in it? Yeah, it does not he shits the bed. Yeah, and there's an actually, let me go ahead and get into the trivia because that might explain why. Kelly wrote Southland tales shortly before the September 11 attacks. The original script involved blackmail porn star to cops. So way more typical, like dirt of LA. After the attacks, Kelly revise the script. He said the original script was more about making fun of Hollywood. But now it's about I hope, creating a piece of science fiction that's about a really important problem we're facing about civil liberties and Homeland Security and needing to sustain both lines, both of these things and balance them. So that's problem one. He rewrote the entire like, kind of premise and purpose into a very like squishy idea. The next problem Southland tales was initially planned to be a nine part interactive experience with the first six parts published and a six 100 page graphic novel that would Released in a six month period up to the film's release. This kind of happened but actually only three issues were made. The feature film comprises of the final three parts of the experience. A website was also developed to intertwine the graphic novels and the film itself. Kelly layer expressed her regret in releasing the latter chapters through the original film saying that this place the audience at a disadvantage is that disadvantage not knowing what the fuck is going on? Yes, absolutely. 100% being like, oh, there is like 100 pages of content. I have no fucking idea what happened. I didn't know any of that. Yeah, so it's kind of like oh, make sense. Make sense. Another issue. Richard Kelly sent the organizers of the 2006 Cannes Film Festival a rough cut of the film, without like much of the CGI wasn't fully cut on a DVD assuming it would not be accepted. Much to his surprise. They loved it and wanted the film entered in competition for the poem Dr. He stopped editing the film, and was unable to complete the visual effects in time for the screening when his film premiered at Cannes Film Festival in May 2006. With the length of 160 minutes, the film had an immediate backlash with people walking out and gaining it gained the lowest reviews for the can 2006 averaging 1.1 out of five and all dailies Roger Ebert described the kin screening as the most disastrous since Yes, the brown bunny. She's Jason Solomon's in the observer UK paper said that Southland tales was so bad It made me wonder if Kelly had ever met a human being. I really so because of this universal had originally optioned the US rights, but after the cancer screening, it was sold to Sony. So a couple of things started shifting with the film itself at that point to since it wasn't in completion, but now with Sony money it was being completed but now it has this huge backlash, and a lot of kind of the niggling as of 2013 Richard Kelly still considers this his proudest accomplishment calling it a misunderstood child, is based on Dr. Strangelove, Pulp Fiction Brazil kiss me deadly the graphic novel in watchmen. The fluid karma energy system bears a striking resemblance in principle to the plans drawn up by Nikola Tesla film style of us is a strange hybrid of Andy Warhol and Philip K. Dick, and he clearly saw the opening from turning Terminator two, but instead of Laura Hamilton, it's Justin Timberlake. This is the fucking opening Terminator. But then it was like who is this? Who's talking and then it comes down the camera guns and lands on Justin Timberlake with like, makeup like bad makeup on us. Like, why is it happening right and in a weird fake accent It was very, very strange. Um, Richard Kelly consciously sought out actors that he felt had been pigeon holed and wanted to showcase their undiscovered talents, again, did not happen, except for I think with Dwayne Johnson. Wallace. Shawn did not get the screening, did not get the screenplay but signed on and he was impressed by Richard Kelly. He had seen the film three times, but still finds it incomprehensible, but says he still liked it very much. Justin Timberlake has also has no idea what it is about, and says he thinks it's performance art. And in January 2021, Richard Kelly announced the development under there's development underway to expand the film into a franchise with the intention being the original cast return. The original film is chapters four through six, while a prequel project will explore chapters one through three, with intentions being to do so through an animated medium, while additional projects can explore events that take place in 2024. So obviously not 2006 the filmmaker started that stated that discussions are ongoing as to whether the projects should be released as films or as a long form through a streaming service. So watch out world. Apparently there are talks for Southland hills a show the series that nobody demanded. Yes, I will say that I mean, the actors are so fucking good and this and watching the rock do this really like timid, awkward performance where he's constantly doing this tick where he like, puts his fingers together and does this sort of nervous, like, constant pressing of fingers against each other is really, really well used. Sarah Michelle Gellar fucking knocks out of the park. Both her and Mandy Moore basically take weird confusing shitty roles and destroy them. They own their parts so hardcore. And of course there's really good talent in this like Wallace Shawn and Amy Poehler and Justin Timberlake. There's a musical scene. That's really good. I don't know why it's there. And I don't know why the rest of it doesn't have more because that would be cool. It should just be a musical. But that one fucking musical scene where I think Justin Timberlake is just high and like walking around an arcade is so good and like really like it's your soul even though you don't know what's happening. The the new I made was it This film is like watching a mixed up Rubik's Cube you can't touch. You're watching and memorizing where all the colors are and strategizing how you'll get them from one point to the other. But you can never make it work because you can't actually get a grip on it. So nice. I think this would be a neat movie to have on in the background with no sound at a party or something. Yeah. I know. What is he doing? He's so tired. You. Yeah, this is I mean, just visually, it's bonkers. Like, it was hard for me to decide whether or not I liked it because I was trying so hard to figure out what the plot was. But yeah, that was mine. That's, that's how I felt when I saw it too. Was was Ah, I don't really understand what happened here. But I liked parts of this movie. Yes. Absolutely. Oh, good. I'm glad that we agree. agree on something. Yeah, I know. It's so rare. You guys remember when I was talking about the devil within her? In the earlier segment? The movie I chose, which is on our streaming is the devil within her What? shocking. From 1974 which was then renamed beyond the door. Many episodes ago I did beyond the door to and we will get into that a little bit. This was a first feeling for me. Have you guys seen beyond the door? No, but I bought beyond the door three. Because I was told it was very good. And I haven't watched it yet. Interesting. I'll get into that too. This is quite a film. budget of 350,000 dish box office of anywhere from 15 to $40 million. Is this quite spread? Yeah with all that you think there'd be critics Rotten Tomatoes assessment there is not. But the audience has it at 23% Well, and that is harsh. They liked enough to spend money on it. Directed by a video g A Santas who was the director of tentacles Madhouse he produced the curse movies and the American Ninja movies and was a majority shareholder and the CEO of canon films. Oh Jesus. That's why the name sound familiar. Written by Antonio Troy so wrote queens of devil queens of evil the murder mansion, Knife of ice and a few other films. Stars Juliet Mel's 87 credits mostly TV from the 70s Fantasy Island The Love Boat dynasty but also 973 episodes of passions As a Linux 300 year old witch that plays God with all the other characters lives. This sounds like the plot of the film I talked about. It also stars Richard Johnson 139 credits including the haunting zombie, the monster club, and Gabriel La Via 43 credits. The devil is a woman deep read Revenge of the dead evil senses. This is an Italian ripoff of the exorcist. Ah, okay. So it opens with a nude woman Juliet mills and she is spreading along an altar and a narrator is saying that Dimitri must locate Jessica, she is carrying the devil's child within her well with this, the devil will extend Dimitris life. So when we meet Dimitri immediately afterwards, he's driving his sporty red car and to avoid a truck. He then goes flying off a cliff and into the sea far below. So much for extending his life. Then we meet Jessica and she pulls up on a street in San Francisco with her kids. And let me tell you, these are mouthy little shits. Girl is maybe 10. And she is swearing constantly, oh isn't much better. He's younger, and she's there to pick up her husband Robert was a music producer. He's working with a band on a song called bargain with the devil, which is a bit on the nose of he asked me about this is 1974 Vanessa and audiences had never heard of subtlety, I believe. So at home, she surprises Robert with the news that she is pregnant. And then later that week, they are having a birthday party for their young son. And Robert finds Jessica in the bathroom, coughing up blood, violently coughing up blood. And she claims that the baby is suffocating her from inside and trying to kill her. Wow. She tells him that she doesn't want to keep the baby even though he's telling her everything will be alright. And she finally calms down and all that. But when they go to the doctor, he lets her know. Oh, you're not seven weeks pregnant? You're three months pregnant? Oh, sure. This is one of those stories where the baby is growing too fast. It's a it's a trope that I kind of hate, but I don't think it was. I don't think it was very, very prevalent in the early 70s. So maybe this movie started. I don't know. So later, we see them in bed. And here's where the creeps start. And I will say this movie has some some seriously effective creeps in it. She gets out of bed. And while the little boy is watching, you know, like through a crack through the wall, she suddenly starts to levitating and levitates right out of the room and out of the house. Oh, well. That's one way to go get groceries. And when she returns, Robert has woken up, he's understandably worried about where she's been. She's Dallas, you know, drenched in water and everything. She's dripping water as she comes in the house and everything. And when he asked her where she's been, she's just started weeping. So we don't know what's going on, really. So Robert meets with the doctor alone. Then he tells him all the stuff that's been going on and the doctor confesses that he is worried about this pregnancy which is developing at an unnatural rate. He says he has consulted with experts and can't recall any case like this one before. I can imagine Meanwhile, while they're having this conversation and actually in different scenes coming up to this, we see Dimitri now and he's been spying on them to meet you who had gone off the cliff earlier in the film. He's he's been spying on them at the birthday party. And now this thing, the doctor and all that stuff. So a family friend comes to visit. And this seems like the best way to have Jessica talk about her feelings because she doesn't feel comfortable talking to the doctors. She doesn't feel comfortable talking to her husband and the husband says the friend maybe you can get out of her what her thoughts are on this. And so when the friend starts asking Jessica about stuff, Jessica reminds her that she and Dimitri had a thing in their past, but she hasn't seen him in years. Is the cliff guy. Yes. How many Dimitris is this confusing is the name Dimitri confusing to you too, too common. It's just we haven't heard about him in a little while. I just want to make sure I kind of forgot about Dimitri. Right. So there is some weird family drama that happens here and then the occasional supernatural wizardry. But finally, the doctor tells her that the pregnancy is moving along at a very unnatural pace, and she suggests that she'd like an abortion. And he agrees that might not be a horrible idea as a last resort, but as soon as he kind of agrees to that she accuses him of being a murderer and that she will kill anyone. tries to take a baby away from her. Yes, Baby got to the brain, right? So, Robert, her husband has been at the studio most of the time, he doesn't realize that Jessica is terrorizing the kids with their alone with her. And there is one fucking creepy scene where the daughter comes in the bedroom to wake Mommy, you know who's sleeping on her stomach. And she kind of, you know, tugs on her shoulder and mommy's head starts turning around. She's got this fucking chilling smile that's hafele wide and her eyes are wide open in her head just keeps turning around, you know, to an unnatural angle. When Robert gets home. The kids are running up to him like please don't leave us alone. We'll be good. We promise. So Robert, Robert packs a kid shit up and he ships them off with a friend. And then the movie goes into full exorcise rip off from here on out. Dimitri shows up claiming he can help Jessica who was clearly possessed and he and Robert in the doctor take turns taking care of her. She's She's now in a straitjacket and tied to the bed and doing all sorts of Reagan from the exorcist. She's also getting more and more pregnant. So she's she's getting big. There's this kind of climactic battle, I guess, where Dimitri betrays everybody, but then he's betrayed by the devil. And the devil basically says, like, I was fucking with you, and I'm kind of like his nickname is a prince of lies if you believed anything that's going on you. So he starts pounding on the very pregnant belly of Jessica. She's no lie. I have a just just like a kirkin giving her the courage. Yeah. And there's a pretty blatant exorcise ending, followed by a pretty standard horror movie ending and I gotta tell you guys, I ate it all the fuck up. Like, I don't know what is wrong with people given this 24 this movie isn't fucking rate. I mean, it's Italian. And it's dubbed. Or at least, even though they're speaking English until the ADR, everything. So you're just like, hmm, looks like he's actually saying those words. But I don't think that's Yeah, I'm saying those words. And the daughter who's cursing validly through the whole thing. She is clearly being dubbed by a by an older woman trying to sound like a young girl. Black Cat I talked about last week was the same exact kind of thing. So you know what I'm doing. By the way, this is streaming on Arrow. And a lot of people I'm sure have seen this movie. This is a very famous movie. But this was first time for me. And I was just like, Fuck, I wish I had seen this when I was 15 or something. I would really love this. So this is on Arrow streaming. And I knew I was gonna watch beyond the door and I turned it on. And the first thing that pops up is the devil within her as the opening title. Oh, like, Oh, I thought I was going beyond the door at the very end of this the end title say beyond the door. So this is Yeah, this is what's going on. The widescreen presentation under the title devil within her features almost 15 minutes of newer footage that was not shown in theaters. This includes the complete credits a scene where Jessica meets Dimitri in the ritual grounds and a scene showing Jessica with Robert and her children stepping down San Francisco and seeing Dimitri devil within her was shown in some UK cinemas in vibra sound that was a rip Sensurround system used to film earthquake. It was obviously an add on and was apparently quite painful to the years Oh. So Warner Brothers sued the production company for what they consider to be a blatant ripoff of the exorcist. The case was settled in Warner Brothers favor with the Italians forced to pay an undisclosed fee. But if you're looking at this remember 350,000 to make box office of IMDb says 15 million Wikipedia says 40 million so it's somewhere in there they made a shit ton of money. Okay, in the United States, Mario bhavas shock from 1977 was re titled beyond the door to and branded as a sequel though it has no relation to film. A second sequel the on the door three was released in 1989. Though it two bears no relation to the previous two. Excellent. So I have no spoilers. Well, and I I want to see now beyond the door three because if you recall I did beyond the door too. Right. And that was that's the film I also like so I'm curious if this third one is any good? Yeah, I think it's a very syndrome. Oh, is it so it's not on Arrow. That's a bummer. I think. During a 2005 interview, Juliet Mills said the producers offered her a choice of either points in the movie or salary. Her agent at the time said, No, no, no, get your money up front. You might never see the money with these Italians. Oh, it's a wise business in your recommendation. So she did salary and then the film went on to become massive success. So Oh, that sucks. to drum up publicity for the film. You guys are gonna love this. The director hired actors to faint in the theaters that showed so good. So had ambulances parked outside, sir, and it worked, becoming a runaway hit in Italy. Wow. And then finally, according to director of video scientists, he originally had to deal with Sam are cough at American International pictures which had shown interest in the film. However, when sanitas was approached by the film ventures international at the Milan International Film Festival. He pitched the summit as a very detailed promotional campaign for the film, and had money for prints and advertising. But he didn't have any money for bands payment or anything. So montoro of the film ventures guy ended up selling his car and paid $100 to a scientist to secure us distribution rights. Wow. Wow, quickly became the top grossing independent film of the year. They've got here and this particular thing grossing over 30 million. Despite the legal action by Warner Brothers in their attempt to have the film pulled arc off, on the other hand, distributed the blaxploitation position film hobby, the same year, okay, which also proved successful at the box office. However, that ended up in litigation with Warner Brothers also, and they won that one, and he was forced to pull the film from the theaters. The director of ad Abby William Gertler would then later direct Grizzly Toro and film fetcher film ventures, which also became a huge independent box office hit in 76. So these guys are, you know, all tied up together and making these movies that we've been talking about on this podcast for the last year. So I'll finish this with a quote from a video a scientist who was known as the rip off King and all of this stuff, but when you hear this, you're gonna fucking love him. He says, All in all, I am sadly aware that my contributions to the horror genre are not as such historical relevance, say The Exorcist or psycho. We're not talking masterpieces here. But I've put all my love and enthusiasm on my films and I think it shows what's most important I have gained the respect of true horror fans were always loyal and extremely perceptive perceptive. They know a good film when they see one Oh good. Well worded Yeah, well, yeah. I man I really loved this now it is it drags in sections. And it's there's some shit acting especially. But there is like genuine creepy scenes when she turns her head around. I mean, the hair on my arms that oh my god. This is horrifying. But it is. I mean, that's definitely a rip off scene. The head turning around she pukes out pea soup at one point in the bed levitating on the bed and all this stuff. It is like this is lawsuit where they for sure. BYU law. Every once in a while you're talking about a movie like that. And you think in your head the way the box office and movies are now. And you go. It's amazing how much money movies that looked like and had the content like this. Yeah. could make. Yeah, you know, there before you had direct video and stuff, where those movies probably would have gone coming out 10 years later. Yeah. And I'm sure this just went immediately to the Grindhouse theaters and then started doing such big business at the other theaters just had to kind of pay attention and go on shed. I guess we'll show this in our theater too. I mean, for this, this to me, 15 to $40 million. That's a lot of Italians going to the cinema. A lot out of 40 seconds. That's a lot further than 42nd Street. I'll take you on its own. Yeah, absolutely. In 1974 Wow, there were multiplexes all that but that that was also the thing. there just weren't as many movies being made. So this would show you know, Grindhouse probably a couple of big ones, then spend a lot of time at the dr. oz show for six months. 10 months. I mean, Josh show for what 10 years. Oh, my God. So that was my movie. And this was I did really love this sub genre choice. So good job. eriko. Another one just like shopfactory now there we could revisit. He's only Oh, yeah, I hope we do at some point for sure. And I'm gonna be obviously just like Eric for the last several episodes saying, well, I watched this movie by this guy. Again, I'm going to be doing that with that arrow streaming service because I have found some cool, good stuff on there. But that means then if we're playing the game that Vanessa, you've got the next choice for sub genres. Absolutely. Well, I'm thinking guys, since we're heading into fall and the school season is upon us, how about we do a back to school themed episode. I love it. I love it when we do this themed episodes around the time of the year. I agree. No, Rodney Dangerfield though. I mean, he is horror i get i do back to school, and everybody without bubbles. As long as I don't have to watch it, by all means, knock yourself out. Well, I love this idea. And so that means we're at the end of the episode is where we thank everybody who's participating in the value for value model, liking and sharing posts, sending money, sending artwork, and doing all of the great things you're doing writing reviews. We appreciate all of that so much. I feel like we're just gonna have to start writing down the names of everybody who's doing everything and just thanking them by name at the end of the day. Because you guys are doing so much we cannot get it true. Very true. Rock. Okay, so anything else? Guys? Are you ready to get out of here? Yeah, no, I think I you know, I'm just ready to go to arrow and buy a lot more there. Us website has been down for like weeks, and I don't know why. And I'm like, I want to buy your shit. Please make it available. Otherwise, I have to go to Amazon and type in arrow, comma, blu ray. DVD, check them out. They're pretty good. Okay, if there's a backdoor arrow, comma blu ray on Amazon, and you're going to get seven seasons of arrow from the web? Oh, yeah. No, that's you have to scroll past that. And then you get it. There's the I believe DVD is pretty good for and I think there's another one I just ordered something from called pursue something weird like that. That's also sort of aggregates the boutique DVDs into one section. The obliques been around for a long time. Yeah, pretty good. Because I believe I think arrow got the UK distribution to one cut of the dead, which I'm desperate to get a hold off and they even have one steelbook that exists. I don't know if it's real, or if somebody made it and it's like a weird bootleg. So I'm just like, how do I buy some of these fucking films? Like, please let me give you money. Is it really that hard? Alright, you assholes. I was trying to get out of here. Oh, sorry. I mean, yes. I have nothing else to talk about. We're done. How about we reconvene one week from today and you guys can continue this conversation crazy blu ray talk. Alright, see ya. There's the other one I love to talk about and wouldn't talk about