139 GIANT MONSTER MASH!
Eric brings COVID to his co-hosts and Kelly defends Malignant. Also discussed: Squid Games, Nightbooks, and Prisoners of the Ghostland.Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/strangeaeonsr)
Oh, sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition? sites to show you Strange Aeons. Welcome to Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That's Vanessa over there. Hello. That must make me Kelly. Do you guys remember I don't know if it was last episode or the episode before where I was saying that I was going to be interviewed. Yeah. Oh yeah, I did that interview yesterday for Cz media. Carlos Zamora. And it was an absolute delight. And you know me a little better than Vanessa. So I, I talk myself out of doing fun things all the time. And I was just about to talk myself out of this because he he sent me a really nice text and said, We Ceylon is everything groovy. And I had a chance to back out and I was thinking about it, because I don't like doing fun things. I can't I don't know you well enough to. That doesn't really make sense for the person I know. But I can see deep down inside of that little insecurity. Yeah, security, I would much rather stay at home than do anything. There's a two or three things a year. Yeah. Like the Lovecraft festival, like cryptic, cryptic. Sometimes. If we didn't record this here at my place, yeah, then I'd never show up. That's interesting. And that's why we're here. I always wondered, like, why I mean, like, we should take turns or something. So it's not always invading your space, but I guess this is the only way you get me. Okay. Great. All right. So I said, No, no, no, I'll be there. And he seemed like a really nice guy. And I get down there. And let me tell you guys, a true bromance has blossomed. Nice. Carlos, and I really hit it off, he opened a bottle of wine. We talked for two hours. He opened a second bottle of wine. When he opened the third bottle of wine, I said, Carlos, I gotta go. I'm having such a great time. But I really have to drive. And this is this is not conducive to my health. But, but we were simpatico. So when When do I get my invitation? Oh, I don't know. And I don't know wedding. Oh, wow. Sweetie to do. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, you know what? It's a very open user, handsome man. I will say that. And his space. He was saying I've got a little studio in Capitol Hill and everything. And I get down there and it's all exposed brick and wood beams with a view over the sound of downtown Seattle. Oh my god. That's incredible. Yeah, it was amazing. It's full of aquariums and all sorts of cool shit all of his sign memorabilia. Eric, if you saw this guy, you'd recognize him because he's a prominent Krypton. attendee and as soon as I actually saw him I was like, Oh, I know who you are, at least by sight sir. And I can't imagine that anything we talked about is going to be interesting to anybody else it just me rambling discussion of shit sir. The topic was going to be horror films that have been shot in Seattle The only thing we didn't talk about was horror films. Oh now considering when just came out that's Yeah, yeah, so speaking English so anyway, Cz media I'll be on that at some point I'll I'll post the link when it comes out. If it comes out I can't believe he'd find anything in there. He might have to invite me back so we can do it all over again. 15 minute podcast goes out. However, in defense of the movie malignant okay. Which I finally saw you guys shit all over last week? I don't remember that. Well, actually, I think you're missing remembering but okay. It felt like he did and that's probably why I had such a good time with it because I went into going I got to see this shit show. Now. I will not say that. It is a good movie. See? That's what we but I was highly entertained. Yes. The the shots of them. Yes. The going up to the asylum and parking right at the cliff. It's fine. It seems ample parking. It seems a little dangerous. But maybe I'm a moron. Driver than her that's I think they could say that everyone is a more cautious driver than her I thought that a couple of the shots of downtown Seattle were nice and stuff like that and then we'll get into spoiler territory I feel like if you wanted to see malignant you set a scene and if you don't this might make you want to see it the the third act reveal Yeah, that should have happened mid act too. Oh yeah. And I think the problem with the movie besides the fact that it's full of bad acting bad dialog and stupid decisions is that it it hid too well what was going to happen i mean i was so blown away by that I was like wait a second you're I thought we were gonna find out she was split personality all of that bullshit right right there and then when we see this thing on the back I was like what the fuck I need another drink this just become amazing yes the last third and then incredible yeah and then the the like the fighting and all of that shit suddenly looked really cool to me I was having such a good time and I felt like you know what the Brahmas this needed to be telegraphed a little earlier so that I had some instead of going through it I could be like oh, when is this going to happen? I can tell something's going to happen I mean I picked up on it but I think I'm programmed as a female to know how females walk so every every time I saw the thing moving around before they revealed it I was like oh it's just her back walking backwards. Oh wow. I didn't I didn't put that together. I mean I put it together that it had to be her yeah the backwards the whole Yeah, no, I was like, Oh, she's walking backwards and then the beginning they said there's a thing they have to cut out and I didn't expect it to like pop out the back of her fucking head. love Jesus. That was incredible. But yes, I'll say this this movie that you didn't care much for and Eric you didn't care much for something that people are watching 10 years from now still and talking about this is going to be a Halloween staple. I think Yeah. And it's but not only because it's crazy, right? Not because it's a fantastically well made movie. Right? But it's a fantastically well made mess of a movie. Well, maybe I mean, I went online and there's there is a fan base. Oh yeah, movie there's fucking love it not ironically, in any way. They're just like, holy shit. I loved this movie. So that is not me. Yeah, but I would definitely go back and watch that third act again. Well, this is exactly where I'm at. Because I think it is incredibly interesting and fascinating and fucking crazy. And I think it's purposeful. I just didn't know what the purpose was. Like, I was like, What do you treat, you're you're doing something and I don't know what it is. And it's amazing, and you're doing it great, but I don't know what it is you're doing. And in the meantime, we have to sit through a really bad, really bad dialogue. Yeah, keep in mind we're also getting I mean, it's the natural progression of a guy who's made The Conjuring and also Fast and Furious movies. Oh, yeah, I forgot he did. Right. So it's, it really feels like a mix of those movies. That's it. It does it feels like a Lifetime movie. I'm not gonna let that go It feels like a lifetime original movie. I have an interesting common conversation with our buddy Tony. Mr. Anthony case. What a ton of those that I don't know that guy gleefully verified something I was saying that he thought calling a JLo inspired was really shallow. And other than some light choices and a few little things it wasn't remotely JLo Yeah. And he totally agree with your assessment of it being I was like who was it that said it's like that Lifetime movie with whoever you the Christian wig and yeah, and it was like, yeah, it's that over the top insanity that you get from those overly dramatic kind of movies. Put in a horror film. And it's just like the Baba Duke I fucking hated the Baba Duke The first time I watched it I'm absolutely like it and watched it again with a different mindset and enjoyed the hell out of it and I now think it's great. Yeah, and I have no problem changing my first impression of a film and I can guarantee you with Leonard Cohen and accept those guys in my head I watch it again. I'm going to like it because I'm not expecting a James Wan $40 million production it's a love letter to fucking basket case and it's very much yeah and like if you look at it through that lens once you realize it's a love letter to basket case, then I think it will skew things so I'm excited to check it out again by the same problem of drag me to hell where the all the all the reviews saying it's Sam Raimi going back to his horse. routes. Now for those of you that maybe watched Evil Dead 10 or 15 years on and viewed it as a comedy already because of evil that do an Army of Darkness when Evil Dead first came out, it was fucking horror. Yeah, it was flat out scary. Yeah, and it wasn't ironic it wasn't tongue in cheek. It was scary. It's like his super market horror film. That's it feels very similar. So when I saw drag me to hell, he's coming back to his horror roots. I actually thought, Oh, he's going back to his horror roots. Not his Evil Dead two. Army of Darkness horror roots. It took me about 20 minutes to get into the field of that movie and those first 20 minutes I frickin hated it. I thought I was horrible. And I'm gone. Okay, I get what they're not doing as horror routes. Knowing as horror comedy routes, which is very close. It's only one movie difference. And after that, I was fine with it. Do I need to give that a second Dre hated that movie on the way to do? It was fine. She was willing to kill her own cat to stop the curse. I was like this woman does deserves to go to hell. Yeah, no, I I enjoyed the movie more than I was at that point, because I just settled in and watch her for the humor a little bit more. But I've never watched it again. I guess I didn't even find it funny. I was just like, oh, that's gross. Very cringy wasn't a PG 13 also was like, so I think that was a big my big thing was can't be too much horror roots. Interesting. Anyway, um, that was my sense of malignant, I will go back and watch that third act just because I had such a good time with it. I'm so glad you checked out the whole thing and you liked it, then really, really, really pleased about that. So yay. And it's time for vinegar syndrome or Sephora to put together the disc for it. Because those are the kinds of companies that should put should put together the disk for this movie. Yeah, and it's gonna get you know, a massive blu ray release and it'll be dumped out there and we'll get mulignan to before next October, I'm sure probably Oh, yeah. Well, I checked out something on Netflix. I believe the night books. I've heard of this horrible title. really terrible title, I think. But actually really charming. It's why isn't it it is it feels why it's got Jessica Jones. Well, actresses playing Yeah, playing the evil witch. And it's got a little boy who has ended up basically confined into a space with her and he has to write a scary story every night or else she will murder him. Um, and there's another little girl trapped there with him and they kind of become friends and have to figure out how to escape it's really well written actually. Like you think that it's gonna be shit and the trailer shit and like it seems like it's gonna be shit and then you watch it you're like, Oh my god, like you guys really thought this through? I'm so proud. It feels very goosebumps. II it's a little bit darker than it should be for a kid story which I really appreciate. Is it a movie or a series? It's a movie? Oh, it is okay. Yeah. Is that like when he tells her the stories are they like does it turn into short? films? Or um, it? Yeah, actually, it turns out they're very short. They're very very short. little short films that are I think they're all in black and white. And it's it's kind of cheesy like his his storytelling his little kid telling you he's like a middle schooler telling you his version of a scary story. So it's not really scary. But the actual scary story is like, What the fuck is good? Like, there's a real oh man who did the witches who is the author of that? Was that Roald Dahl? Yeah, it's got a real Roald Dahl feel to it. Yeah, that that premises the premise from Tales from the darkside the movie isn't it? I don't know I haven't think so. isn't gonna cook the kid up and he tells her stories. Yeah, no, absolutely it is but add another kid in there and there are definitely twists every character is a little more complex than you think they are going to be. I just this is a small spoiler but I just I really liked that touch. The previous children who she had captured or alternate into little miniatures that she has lined up and they have like a little peek and they're all in these like horrifying positions and it's just so good you're like oh my god there they are. There's the children mice. I need to see this I guess. Yeah, it's it's charming. It's terming keeping with the Netflix theme Oh, squid game. Oh man. I saw the trailer for that. Like watch it really holy shit It is so how much have you said have you seen that game five episodes and I think it's episode six was someone that just fucking shattered me Alan now I I'm really enjoying it. It's so good. It is. It's kind of a kind of, but not really a Hunger Games battery. sort of thing. It's a different premise but it's a similar kind of story. And it's incredibly well done and amazingly well shot and acted and everything is top notch. Apparently it was it's like two years out from South Korea. And I guess it was just an insanely popular show over there when it came out and seeming to be now it's number one on Netflix now for a little while. And well, well deserved it is it? Is it different enough from Alison Borderlands because that was the reason why I was holding off on watching it I was like I feel like I just did this alright, very very different. It feels to you finished it. Okay. It feels to me like they are definitely saying things about social media ladders and stuff like that in their movies in the last 10 years or so. And this lines up with that Yeah. Oh cool. It almost goes to hammer over the head level when the VIP show up. But it's still really good. It's still really good because the main story the main characters are so well rounded and well presented that it works. It still works most dangerous game is probably also a good comparison. Right? Well, I saw something that our buddy Craig would call a Craig movie. Craig Craig approved. Prisoners of the ghost Lam Nicolas Cage's new movie. Oh, oh, hey, yeah, that has had lots of reviews about this is the most insane movie I've ever seen and all that kind of stuff. Well, it is not that it is it is weird. Okay and cages very cagey and it's kind of a mix between I don't know there's a little bit of Mad Max and it's and I it's it's very hard to explain what is going on and it's very hard to explain afterwards what you just watch Do you feel like you know what you just watched or do you feel like out in the dark about it? I get what they were doing it was not it needed another $10 million dollars on the budget or something needed some some better effects. And I think that I probably liked it a little less than Craig did. But uh you know, ever since Mandy I've been wanting to see that Nicolas Cage again Yeah, wanting to see those visuals with that Nicolas Cage and I think that he's giving us you know, over the top acting, but the film surrounding it is not nearly as interesting as Mandy, I was literally going to ask you on the Mandy scale. Mandy is our baseline of Nicolas Cage and his current area era of craziness where does it fall? So it falls short? Yeah, and I don't think we can call that our baseline for him that's got to be the peak it's got to be the top Yeah. The drinking in the bathroom scene is like yes peak screen and then he had just done before that mom and dad Oh, Dad I feel like you know ever since then even color out of space Yeah, that was a terrific job of color as he does and that movie was cool. But it was not Mandy cool yeah in my opinion. Just a different colors. noobs more to purple and pink. Not enough right? indescribable color sorry. I will get that right sometime I swear it So is this a white? Is this his white film are we going into looked like there was a lot of like angelic year feels. He is wearing a suit that has been put on him that has explosives on each arm and explosives on each testicle if he does not finish his so it's like an escape from LA level is it? Yeah, there's a little bit of that. That's what I was trying to think of. Cuz he is going in after somebody's daughter and then has to bring her back but then the there's a curse there's some mysticism going on. I don't want to get sued. Oh man. Wow. Huh? That sounds pretty pretty interesting. I I've only seen the first episode of this one thing, but I'm pretty stoked on I'm going to go home and watch the rest tonight. The night maps. Oh yeah. Lana verse. I want you first steps are not that far into it. Also. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know much about this. It feels far more like a drama than a horror to me. But it could just be that he's taking his time yeah I do wonder about that I feel like it's got to be building up because even initially with the cat sighs when they like sit on that island and there's all those little yellow dots and I was like I don't see any real cats shit is happening right now. I like the build up I like the there's this weird priest who may or may not be a priest. Yeah, there's a lot of good questions I like the casting. I really like the game plays a priest and the lead guy is from Friday Night Lights which is a show that I just adore. So I'd like he's kind of the main guy have that outside of the coach so I really like him already. Of course his wife unlike another horror director, we can think of she's really good performing. She's just so if she feels so real, she feels like someone's mom who's you know, going through having to deal with your son coming back from prison and loving them and yeah I don't know if you guys remember Flanagan was supposed to do revival, Stephen King's book revival, which is fantastic. And it has a priest who has kind of lost his way in it. And that movie got shelved everything, but didn't get shelved. It didn't even go into production. But it feels to me like he brought a little of that over to this interesting though. Hmm, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what he does. Yeah. I also like the fact that it's seven episodes. It makes me feel like they're saying oh, okay, we don't have to do 10 maybe we just tell the story and the length of time it takes to tell it Yeah, I like that. Yeah, absolutely. I love it when people have been messing with like okay, how long is my story? How long is it going to take to tell it does it need to be in 30 minute chunks? Or is it going to be in 15 minute chunks or? I love that we're playing with time it is so frustrating that TV for formula and I'm thrilled to have it be gone You know? 20 to 42 minutes or whatever stupid cliffhangers for no reason they're there for a reason. Oh, I'm sorry. You're right 100% there for a reason. But story wise no reason. real sad. Let's see movie here. Okay, I did something wild last night. The first time we've ever had you do this the first time we talk about something you saw. No, no. I was gonna say is it a movie I got or is it something else I did last night and I'm going to put I did last night. Dean and I went to our first live concert. locked down. Was it Hootie and the blowfish? You are close. What it's close to Hootie and the blowfish. Oh, my wife loves Darius Rucker loves his singing. And he actually puts on a hell of a show. So I have seen him many, many times. interesting part is the first time we ever saw him was at the Washington State Fair, as you know, in hoody was in their downside, and they're now doing fair shows. And this was during CES now a solo artist and has been for several years now. And that's where this was Washington State Fair. Oh my god. You went to the fair? Yeah. Whoa. Never to take the mask off. Well, let me tell you. But yeah, it was a little more crowded than I was expecting. But who do you see? There's record? Oh, you did? This has to be a dozen times. You guys have seen just floored probably. Hey, I understand. I've seen Ben gibberd like at least 10 times. So I'm right there with her. Got it. Oh, you see lead singer for Death Cab for. Okay. Yes. But no, no. She, she adores their instructors. So the show was great. It was fun, because you could tell the band was so into performing live again, that they were really giving it all and they did all these weird little fun things with the music and and it was really cool to see live music again. The opening act was actually really good, kind of unknown girl that he'd found someplace. She opened up and she was really good and a lot of fun. Just happy kind of popcorn or bubblegum music. But yeah, it's a little weird right now and it took a good 2030 minutes to acclimate to the idea of how many people were in the fair. Yeah, because there's the last weekend of the fair to Oh, sure. And that took a little bit and but it's outside, right? Yeah, it's all outside. The venue was outside venue and it was kind of even though it was warm is breezy and people were a lot nicer, which was a little weird, then usually run in and concerts. And so that was neat. Well, I really appreciate you bringing your virus riddled body into my. We hope you showered first so many times. Okay? shower. All right, well, I'm yawning right directly into the microphone because I am a professional podcaster so why don't we take a little break? And when we come back we're going to talk a pegu film. Shogun warriors guy came with rocket booster. Great bazooka with rocket launcher. Is he Friend or Foe? You can launch his claws. Imagine his breath is a blast of fire. The large Shogun warriors and Godzilla they're ready to strike when you are the Shogun warriors great mazinga guy King and Godzilla each sold separately accessories not for use with smaller Shogun warriors from Mattel we have returned Vanessa, this was yours sub genre pic. Why don't you tell us why you picked cage you? Yeah, you know, I just love giant creatures, destroying cities so much. Ah, so good. And I watched Cloverfield a couple months back, I guess now I remember. Yes, as you should, because it's amazing. And I just wanted more. So I was like, You know what, we have not yet done kaiju What a cool excuse to dig in. And so I, I finally got an excuse to rewatch Shin Godzilla, which is a 2016 movie. And I say rewatch, I also kind of mean watch for the first time. When I went to Japan. I wanted to know what it was like to see a movie in Japan. Oh, and so I went in session Godzilla. But there's no English subtitles. So I was just like, I have no real clue what's happening. And there's a lot of talking and a lot of camera whipping back and forth. And so I was really curious to know what I was actually about and not like, just what my guesstimate was. And yeah, it was a lot a lot of fun. So shouldn't Godzilla Rotten Tomatoes 86% for critics and 74% for audience so pretty, pretty high. And a little bit more of a critic Starling budget of 15 million box office of 78 million. Yeah. Did you either have you guys seen this movie? Yeah, I've seen it. I like it. I don't love it, but I like it. I have not okay, all right. I'm the director is Hideo ano he's done 33 projects, including Evangelio. In Neon Genesis Evangelion, he did some cutie honey some sugar sugar rune TV series. He also is a voice in the wind Also Rises which I thought was very, very weird. But yeah, he does a ton of anime and it also was co directed by Shinji Higuchi who's done 16 projects. Attack on Titan part one and two is probably the one that stands out. He actually has a lot of experience as a storyboard artist. The two are actually longtime friends and collaborators collaborators, both of them worked on neon jet and Genesis Evangelio and together and they Both were selected by tau to work on this because of their work together. It was written also by hiko. Ano the director and Sean Whitley did the English version he's done 63 things mostly English translation translations, including it man, cat planet cuties. My Bride is a mermaid and southern fried Bigfoot. So, look out for those titles. It is starring a lot of people who I don't really I mean, it's Japanese film, so I really don't know who these people are. But I want to go ahead and give some shout outs anyway. Hiroko Hasegawa plays Rancho yaguchi the one saying politician. He's been in 47 things including Attack on Titan and a lot of TV miniseries. So Tommy is she hada as Kyoko and Patterson who plays the American who's not very American. She spent in 73 projects including Attack on Titan films and lots of TV miniseries. Ren Soo Ji, as prime minister said you a kouachi 454 things Wow. Yeah, my rights. He was most notably to me, he was an audition as Shimada, who I think is the like sleazy friend. He actually died in 2018. So he's no longer with us, but damn son, seriously. And Jin Kumari as maceo zaisan, who has been in 201 things and he was in Kill Bill as boss Tanaka. He was also in the Wailing he the killer audition. So there was there's a lot of kind of like people who they just sort of threw at this who weren't really anybody because they didn't even have IMDb pictures, but then they also had a few like, you know, old school veterans mixed in there. The plot. Um, I mean, it's a really typical kaiju story. A pleasure boat is off the coast of Japan. It's in trouble slash maybe attacked, definitely attacked. But no one's really sure. Video footage shows the Coast Guard boarding it, and we're right there with the shakey cam. And then there's a giant earthquake. And she gets crazy. There's an underwater car tunnel that fills up with a strange, red. I don't want to say liquid, it's like viscera. It almost looks like volcanic liquid, but everyone's running around and they seem to be able to talk. So I guess it's not volcanic liquid, not entirely sure. And then there's a giant steam cloud that forms on top of the water and ships are starting to disappear within it. And so the government calls a meeting in the main conference room with the cabinet, and they discuss how to proceed after this quake. The one sane government dude yaguchi tells the government leaders that there are reports of a large sea monster they basically make fun of him and chastise him for saying anything whatsoever. And then immediately a man comes in and whispers into the ear of the prime minister. And it turns out that it is a giant sea monster and they coined it the giant unidentified life form and eventually it becomes guysyou the the government calls for three potential options they can either exterminate it, chase it away or capture it, half of them agree to exterminate it the other half worry about how the environmentalists are going to perceive that and like you know how they need to make sure to treat it with kid gloves in case this is this is what this movie is it is nonstop bureaucracy, the bureaucracy on top of bureaucracy, it's okay let's meet in the conference room. Okay, let's have a press conference we have to get into our special military suits to get in the press conference so we look like we know what we're doing. Okay the press conferences done now we're going to go into a different conference and like they will stop a conference when somebody brings up question to go into a new room with the same people to continue their conference. It is unbelievably it's dark black humor political satire for sure yeah at its best yeah um I've either ever seen in the thick of it the British I have not okay it's a it's a British series where you get the swear a British guy who became Doctor Who whose name I'm forgetting right now but old man older guy I know you're talking about Yeah, so just a very like ridiculous over the top political movie but with Godzilla so it's really great because they're like, okay, we have to let the people know that he's attacking and he's he's moving towards the land and the one saying guys like, he might stand up and like walk on the land and they're like, No, no, no, he won't. He won't. We talked to our scientists. He would crush it. underneath his own pressure and so they they're talking to everybody in the conference or in the live broadcast to the Japanese to calm everyone down and say, Oh, no, no, he can't stand he can't stand so don't worry about that. And he runs over whispers seems that he is walking on the land every city. So it's just a lot of that a lot of really good kind of deadpan moments. And I would say the other really impressive things about this movie. Other than it really is just a typical monster movie. It's it's moving through Japan, it gets to Tokyo, they have to figure out what to do. The international community gets involved because they haven't managed to actually like defeat it yet. And they're like, okay, we're gonna nuke it. And everyone's like, you're gonna nuke Japan, US me had this conversation before fellows. And there's just a lot of that kind of stuff going on within it. But the monster itself, I found really, really interesting. It evolves multiple times. So that was one thing I didn't realize when I was watching it the first time, I thought it was multiple monsters, because I was like, oh, man, we're like, Is it going to fight the other one? No, it's just, it's just evolving. The first ones this kind of big, sluggish lizard guy with like dead eyes that just stare off into nothing, which is really creepy. And it feels like it's a puppet. But it's apparently it's CGI, which is I but it's modeled after a puppet because they couldn't get the puppets to work. So they made all these like kind of puppet II things and then eventually it makes its way to becoming like the crazy creepy Godzilla that we kind of are more familiar with. And it's spines are like made out of like dead creatures. And when it goes to blast, and breathe fire, it splits its jaw in two four parts. So the top is two and the bottom is two and it expands out breathe stuff. It's cool. fucka very blade. I feel like somebody else said that's me. Watch. And yeah, it's just it has some really, really interesting effects. One thing I also really liked about it is it grows these like really, really sad little T rex arms. Like it has these kind of like gills and you're like oh no, I can't stand and it's trying to stand it's trying to stand it keeps falling over onto buildings and you're like, Oh, I can't do it. You can do it. But Scylla and then it like pops out these two little itty bitty arms you're like yeah, you can walk. Um, it has it's just has this crazy physicality to it. And then when it does do the atomic blast, it has these cool little like black Sheen's that come over its eyes to protect it from the radiation, which I thought was very, very clever. It feels paced, I feel like it's paced and shot almost like an anime. There's a lot of rhythm to read. That's extremely quick. It's extremely punchy. It's violence, and then it's mundane. And if I feel like you can tell that the director comes from an anime background definitely had that sense to it. Just the way in which they handle the government bureaucrats are great. It almost felt like a little bit Wes Anderson, he at times, walk into a room and you they'd be like, okay, we have to deal with this crazy monster. And there'd be the biologists in one group. And they'd be they'd have a little sign underneath us as you know, biologists and they'd be dressed in a certain way. And then go scientists and military and military guys are all like fucking cool and have like, cigarettes hanging out their mouths, and it just goes and then they'd be like the nerds, guys and sweater vest, bad hair. So that it's just like, really fascinating. It was extremely funny. I liked it a lot. It did have flaws, for sure. There was a woman in it that I mentioned earlier, who's the American representative to Japan. So America, the president sends in the Japanese Foreign Relations woman who needs to like sort of represent America and you know, be their boots on the ground and make sure they're doing it right and hold their hand through it. And she's definitely 100% American. her grandma was from Japan, and she's so excited to check out the country that her grandma is from. She is so Japanese and has such a thick accent. Awful she cannot like she cannot for the life of her speak like an American Girl. And it's just like, Oh, you guys, you couldn't just grab like an American. She doesn't even have to be Japanese, just something. So that was a little bit tough to deal with. The Americans jumping in and having that sort of very typical Okay, now the Americans are showing up and they're taking stuff over that was very predictable, and I didn't love it. But they were kind of making fun. Under that fact 100% they were You're right, they definitely were making fun of it. I think I have to rewatch it a few times honestly, because it's so fast and furious and when you're reading subtitles you're like what what, what just happened? I was reading somebody's title and now and then they said four lines of dialogue. I have no idea what just happened. So that's that's definitely something that was difficult to keep on top of. And I didn't like that they had to recreate Godzilla. It was like a sort of a re origin story. Yeah, I was gonna ask you so they This is not in any kind of continuity. 100% it is forgotten. Yeah, it's, it's like Godzilla has never happened before. It's the first time of creatures come out of the sea. In fact, they find a piece of paper somewhere where some scientists have been studying the nuclear effects of sea creatures down below and had predicted this and they had called the monster guy shoot. And so they were like, oh, okay, so somebody named it Look, here's the name. We've set it now we can continue with the movie. So that was a little like I kind of wished it had been part of a continuity. Remind me at the end, don't we see like his tail is starting to look like the other monsters from the Godzilla movies. Um, I wasn't sure what it was. The tail has a bunch of weird creepy creatures on it that are like frozen. It's hard as hell to me like they were going to, like rebooted and that he was the mother of all the monsters he ends up fighting. It's possible I the first time I saw it, I was like, is he growing like creepy humans, and they're gonna be like, human monsters. And it was it was pretty fast. And without having that knowledge of what all the other creatures look like it was a little bit tough. So a little bit of fun trivia for this film. That tagline is a God incarnate a city doomed. The inspiration was actually drawn from the Fukushima nuclear disaster when the earthquake and tsunami hit in 2011. Later in the film, there's this sort of large concrete, boom pump truck that are used to inject something into Godzilla mouth. It's really hilarious. It kind of looks like weird dentistry work. I really, really enjoyed the last. probably half hour of this movie was really phenomenal. But they're throwing stuff in his mouth to neutralize them and they use those same boom pumps. So visually, it would have been very reminiscent of what they did for that tsunami situation. This is the 31st Godzilla film if you include the 1998 Godzilla I don't know whether or not you choose to but there you go. It's the first Godzilla when a Japanese Academy prize for best picture. Nice so it did. Freaking well, crazy crazy. Well, it's the only other Godzilla film aside from the original word Godzilla does not fight another monster. The the director told the actors to speak faster than usual so that they would resemble actual politicians and bureaucrats citing the social network as a reference and warning he had to take if they spoke too slowly. For satomi Isha hotter out the one who plays the Japanese American diplomat, the hardest part of her performance was learning English. She found out she was playing an American after being cast, and was shocked by the amount of English dialogue she had to speak when she read the script. So yeah, that's interesting to me. I mean, why didn't they just I cannot figure it out for the life of me I wish I mean, maybe it was because they liked working with her previously, and they just wanted to keep the dream team going or when it was but yeah, okay, very strange. According to sources close to the production, Godzilla is designed and this film is mostly based on the design from the original film from 1954 as is intended to appear very, very frightening. They just wanted it to be really really creepy looking, which I thought was effective, but it also looks kind of dopey so don't know which side of the line you you're gonna sit on, I want a stuffed animal of this. This dude though, like the first the first iteration, he looks so wonky, he's like a big salamander. The only this is the let's see the only the only Japanese live action Godzilla movie in which the monster was realized almost completely through CGI, abandoning traditional suit animation effects, which I thought was such a cool word. However, according to the effects supervisor at Suki Soto, Godzilla skin was deliberately made to look like rubber as opposed to the realistic animal skin and his movements were performed via motion capture adding a live performance element to the animation. Some of Godzilla his interactions with the environment were achieved via pushing a prop through miniatures. You And the final shot of the monster is actually a sculpture instead of a digital effects of the physical effects aren't entirely done away with. So they were really trying to like keep true to that as much as they could. Godzilla was portrayed in motion capture by manesar numato, a traditional Japanese comic theatre actor to realize Godzilla slow movements. They gave him a 10 kilo kilo, a 10 kilo weight, which was strapped to him, and he incorporated the technique of the traditional Japanese dance and his performance. So he's like dancing around with a weight strapped to him to get that perfect Godzilla look. Shin Godzilla was theatrically released in 2016. to critical acclaim. Everyone loved it. Huge, huge hit, highest grossing live action Japanese film of 2016 grossed 78 million worldwide became the highest grossing Japanese produced Godzilla film in the franchise. It also received 11 total Japan Academy prize nominations and won seven including picture of the year and director of the year. And last but not least, do the film's enormous success in Japan Shin Godzilla has become the de facto face of the franchise. Toho replaced their statue of the high sea Godzilla with that of Shin Godzilla design. Jeez, yeah, that's interesting to me. One of the things I did not like about this was how drastically they changed the design. I do admit that he looked really scary in this movie. Yeah, I thought that he looked very dopey when he first stumbles out of the water and the dead eyes You're talking about looked like like googly eyes do I don't like they kind of remind me of like I don't know I want to say insect or they do kind of seem like reptilian eyes like a really dumb reptile but again like if you think if you imagine that seen as an anime those eyes are just exactly like how they would show a creature Yeah. I also felt like like I was really surprised at the end when it ended I was like, Oh wait, is that the end of the movie? He had a real atomic train field I felt like there was like a light half and then it became kind of serious yeah when like they get to Tokyo and shit gets real and then like, pretty much everyone dies and they have to have a new cabinet like out of tents and they're like okay, well all of our brothers are following let's let's keep going with who we have left. I mean, I appreciate the satire and obviously it did very well for them I'm really surprised to hear that they switched out their statue because yeah, that was 19 ac or I was 91 or something started so that's been around for a long time. I'm glad that you liked it though. I'm glad that you get to see it and understand what they were saying. I was so stoked. I have to tell you I was like oh that's who that person is. Oh, that's the Prime Minister I knew they were somebody important Oh once the Japanese film going experience significantly different than the US or was that it was fast The only thing I will say that the big key highlights are nobody gets up until the credits are done nobody Not a soul it's your it's disrespectful to do so. And then at the end everyone brings all of their trash out with them and like puts it into these like different containers on their way out like they do not you do not leave it messy completely inappropriately that messy. But yeah, I don't know. It felt different. It felt very different. Yeah, was it I know that Godzilla has traditionally had really big like events planned around their theatrical releases was a cool stuff in the lobby or anything like that. There was not but you know, I was kind of seeing it a haphazard way I was there for the Tokyo Game Show sort of sneaking out like in the evenings to get stuff done. So I might have even missed if they had anything special. And this was like, I mean, everything in Japan is like layered so every single floor of every building has different stuff in it. So you have to like take the elevator up to the 15th floor to get to a movie theater. So I was like I don't know I it was a weird kind of spatial experience right? Oh, cool. Very cool. So what did you guys remember? Shall I go next? We could go like most popular secondary weird ass. Oh, okay, let's let's see what you get. Let's fight over. I think I think I firmly in second place here. But the classic Gamarra right, this one is gamma to attack of the Legion. Hello Am I no no no no hdms Come on whether you can see me soon coming into the real guardian of the universe there's a lot of camera movies I did not count the total I do not know if it's more or less than 31 but I think it's less I don't want to nerd out on you here but it's attack of Legion pack oh yes pack of Legion yes and I know nothing please educate me 1996 I wrote this was this damn box out of this fabulous thing was one of the kickstart things for me getting back into collecting physical media. I watched that out of that wonderful box set that arrow put out of camera Yeah. Oh, I didn't realize the new ones were in that yep looks fantastic holy shit so but it's also available on prime and to be it's all over the place. This was there's no ratings on Rotten Tomatoes from critics for this film. Which I thought was fair. There's like two of them. I thought was very bizarre. It didn't get any kind of theatrical US release so that might have been Why is there a Japanese Rotten Tomatoes? I probably couldn't read it now, but the the audience is 83 Okay, yeah. Had you seen guardian of the universe? I have not I read some of it after thing I got the idea of what's going on and I saw you pick the second one. It cuz it was a lot of people picked it as one of his best and there's something about the giant monster movies that I'm comfortable in watching them in whatever order I feel like watching Okay, I will just say that the gamma trilogy follows a story from beginning to end though. Yes, it was a trilogy. So you decided that you started with Episode Two? Yes, but I started with the one that the director really wanted to make as opposed to the one who's largely forced to make a psychopath. She's got a real hair folks. That's what he said. He was forced to do a lot of and I'll get to it in my notes. Anyway. Me, Director shall see. Shoe seeker candoco who directed summer vacation 1999 my soul is slashed. And of course the trilogy of movies. Also, Godzilla mothra and King Ghidorah giant monsters all out attack and one of one of the best I love that movie written by cousin Nori. He too did Ghost in the Shell. And a massive group of things called the dot hack series, which I'm assuming is an anime series but just tons and tons of them and wrote giant monsters all out attack. Let's see. Excuse me wrote there, double back. He did not but he did write a segment of necromancer and nomicon look at the dead. Oh, really? That's interesting. And per everybody that's in there. They've all got tons of animate credits all the writer, the writer and all the actors, a rare actual appearance of Lovecraft on Strange Aeons radio. It happens sometimes from a Japanese writer but 1996 film starring Shashi Oki Naga Swami, it was in the incident virus, the end and several Godzilla movies. Miku Mizuno was at the two in tracksuits and Bayside Shakedown, the finale. Yes. Inside Shakedown. Yeah, it's like, please say there's bikinis and that probably tamotsu Ishibashi Have you seen the Barefoot God? Four days of snow and blood, and also tons of TV. And finally, Mitsuru fukushi is in a goldfish. Samurai zombie? Sweet rain, accuracy of Deaf guinea pig for Deaf women. I gotta say, Eric, you have clearly gone to school to learn how to pronounce names because you rocked it this day. Well done. gave it a shot. So but this starts off with people speaking English in horrible, ridiculous, stupid Southern accents. It's hilarious. Oh, my God. And it's weird because the anytime English is said, it's subtitled. And people are speaking Japanese over the top. Almost every time well, like whenever there's new segments, you get like, multiple subtitles and multiple languages at the same time as I go, all right. But hey, kids are in danger. Must be a guardian movie. The center it's amazing meteor shower, so let's send out the military to deal with it. Okay, sure. But basically, what we'll start with the first part of the film is everybody trying to figure out what's going on. Because you know, that's that's what it does. There's really strange freeze frame moments throughout the film to the beginning, at least there's like five or six freeze frames, the first like 10 or 15 minutes, but the kind of stop after that. The mystery deepens when 10,000 cases of beer are destroyed. 10,000 cases of yours but only the glass is missing. One. But this starts at this one starts out with little creatures with hacking. So there's some blood and gore in this one, at least as far as a kaiju movie feels like a lot. But because the little creatures come out and tear people apart, not terribly graphically, but there's definitely blood. there we're skewing a little bit trying to age the audience some on this one they didn't. They're trying not to make little kid movie. Precisely. They do have a very interesting look that a movie that comes out two years later might have borrowed from the Starship Troopers. They Yeah, they look like those creatures a lot. And they're about that size, right? There's a little bigger than humans they get bigger to that point when they first appear they're brought human size, but then they get bigger. Right? Right. And then yeah, very much like Paul Verhoeven see this film to no one's surprise to figure out this new creature they cannot coexist on the air so they have to figure out a way to destroy it. So they send out the self to force Defense Force, I guess is like a real term or real group in Japan from the sound of it Wow. He the filmmaker does some neat stuff as far as a Cajun film does. There's moments of lockdown camera most of the time you're on sticks and tripods and then but then he switches the handheld for some of the worst segments of the war plan segments to give it more of a intense in the room feel which works really well. And here we've got the first sighting of Gamarra he because he's apparently found out about this creature too and of course you know giant monster future I must come and destroy it. Well because in the first movie you find out the gamma is the guardian of the universe. Yes, actually you find that out and like the first gamma movie ever it's sort of establishes as a guardian of humans especially little kids yes yeah initially is definitely a little kids creepy The effects are good in this it's still What did you call it? What what's the nation nation but the the attacks the flames? The fireball he shoots out is really well done. Yeah, we finally see the creatures what this creature is fighting is all the little ones come together to form a giant one. Thus, why they're called Legion. One of the characters in their quotes the line from the Bible about the about Legion. They it looks really neat. The suit is incredibly well designed and has all these weird little creatures living all over and even though you can tell it is a suit, he kicks the crap out of Gamera who camera who bleeds like it's violent. This thing has these giant spikes and just gouges right into it. They really are up and for the bringing the bigger kids. So of course he destroys it in one city but then it flowers and goes to another city and starts up because you know, you got to continue trying to figure out what's going on. And the he there's a moment where the some of the humans are trying to get away and they're in a helicopter and he comes to defend them. And that's also a really, really brutal battle. And some weird a giant version of the starship trooper creatures. This one is not made up of all the little ones but it's another version so there's different, different critters all throughout this thing. The person he's protecting is from the first film The lady who communicated with him he's the one he's able to talk to who because of the want to make it less of a children's movie and make it more adult they cast a high school student instead of the little kids to be his go between between the humans. She's got like a telepathic link. Is he dead? Because he got his ass kicked pretty bad. You can't read it. And of course it's back to figuring out what Legion is. That's what you're gonna do. There's a mild subplot of romance in this that doesn't work at all. It could just be absolutely removed because it's only like three scenes is a third scene where I figured out Oh, they're supposed to be tactically entwined. Is it between the teenager and Gamarra? So we're flying turtle sex. And it looks like he's destroyed. He's a giant husk from the nuclear explosion will he come back you'll just have to watch his looks like he's destroyed Yeah, yeah, it turns into this giant statue looking thing almost a sort of hunched over and now that people are going to look at him to watch them. Ah, do you think he'll get out? and final battle? No. Okay. Some notes. The DVD has introductions on some I don't know if how many of them run but by Northwest favorite, I guess I guess Dragoon there's, I don't know. I guess Dragoon ragon it's he's been a crypto con few times years and years ago. He's a don't kaiju specialist. He's got a podcast on kaiju enterprise probably on that panel with him then. Okay. But he does introductions to it. Oh, he talks fast. like Whoa, dude, knows his shit. That's for sure. The tagline for this movie. Summer 96. Japan falls. Oh, that's pretty good. It's part of the high C trilogy of films for the director. The It was kind of a revival for gamma because he was sort of a joke at that point, because he's a flying turtle who shoots fire and he was not viewed Well, in Japan director loves kaiju. So he wanted to do a kaiju. And it was presented the opportunity to do this series of films if the first one did well enough. And like I said earlier, he they upgraded to high school students so they could appeal to an earlier audience are an older audience and add in some violence and a little bit more depth to story. The first film was loosely based on Godzilla versus King Kong. But this one is fully original. The first one did so well, that the studio said Do what you want. They allowed him to redesign the way it flies, using some cheap CGI kind of his he wanted to make it sort of like a sea turtle where a sea turtle on the land looks sort of cleansing grace and graceless but in the sea looks amazingly graceful. You wanted to give that to camera while he's flying. So they he was allowed to redo that he couldn't do that in the first one. They wouldn't let him touch anything about it. Ironically, it's the same budget. Both a $5 million budget for first and second, even though is incredibly successful, because we don't get any more money but you got more freedom. So Vega says that their self defense force in Japan was used for no fee. And they use a lot of real soldiers and he would go to the commanding officer say what he wanted done. Manning officer would go tell all the people what to do, and they do it. So he had a huge cast of free soldiers to run around doing stuff. This one was more successful even than the first one and boosted his popularity to rival Godzilla. Japan for several years where he was uneven footing again that made it into kinema which is cinema spelled with a K junos best Japanese film of the year they designed it in the design the Legion suit in such a way that it would not require wires operate which they're worried about to, to having to because it had all these little things moving on it and basically his solution was he fit two actors in the suit so it's actually two guys in that one and they would one control the overall movement the other one controlled how the little having gone it would run and it was so well preserved and maintained that it was brought that suit was brought to like New York Comic Con one year and shown off I think it's so cool to see you back to go back and watch this. The arrow release contains the lake Texarkana hillbilly redub of the film. What is that? It's exactly what it sounds like a whole budget I went and I turned it on and watched a couple scenes and it's just a bunch of good old sounding country bullies dubbing over all of the people in the movie. Oh my god, how does this come about? But they've got the full the full film. And they also have a really neat 40 minute segment that's just basically raw footage of them operating the suits in the background. And that looks so much fun. That would be so much fun to do. The line just in case you had any interest is from Legion is Jesus asked him What is your name? My name is Legion. For we are many Yes, there Oh, that's where the name for the creature came from. I really love this trilogy of films because it unlike most of the Godzilla movies, they they always seem to just kind of ignore whatever it happened. and Japan was suddenly Tokyo was suddenly just fine again every year yeah, and this one dealt with like the PTSD you would have if you lived in a city that just got smashed by a giant monster and stuff like that. It was really interesting ideas for these kind of movies. Yeah, that's awesome. It's incredibly well done. It's it's done as like you were saying the social satire was such a strong point of it, or political satire is such a strong point that you could tell they put a lot into that the people and their relationships and the reality of being was very important in this film, and the storyline of the soldiers it was done as a serious war movie from his point of view he didn't they weren't just fodder to be put out against the giant monster they actually were part of the planning process and part of what happened and there was reactions when the soldiers got destroyed and you know the generally I pull everybody back we don't want to lose anybody more things I end it just really, really smart. Well made film. It sounds like these types of films are just such a good use for people to get commentary to make commentary on different aspects of Japanese culture and life and I guess I didn't realize that until right now. But it's it's so so cool. Yeah, well, I mean certainly the first Godzilla was but as it got more and more popular became just ridiculous monster stuff. It was kind of my assumption, but you know, having mine be like a social political satire and yours. Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. Yeah. Once you got like, God Zuki or whatever the little Godzilla creature got okay. Yeah, we're getting away from the air here. Sure. Think in Japan. That was mean. Yeah. Much better name. Yeah. Well, okay. But I chose a movie that I remember being in a bar in, I don't know in North Carolina or something. And I was like, What the fuck are we watching? Looks amazing, was called dragon wars. He began as a legend. Something unimaginable. Something unexplainable thing we know about. We can only conclude that it's foreign in nature. We're talking about deploying armed forces in a major city. I need to know exactly what the hell we're up against. something extraordinary. That was big. It was something that could turn out to a battlefield wars and so I thought to myself, I am gonna have to watch this fucking movie. It looks amazing. And here I am just the scant 13 years later, finally. So this from 2007 it had a budget of $32 million. Maybe we'll see. Box Office of 75 million worldwide. The Rotten Tomatoes critic scores 29% but the audience flips the critics often says no, no, no. This is only a 19% No, yeah, I've seen this one. It was written and directed by young Ray Shem who did reptile 2001 and the last the last godfather. And it stars Oh, I should mention this is a South Korean. Okay, it's stars. Jason bear 61 episodes of Roswell. He was in the grudge skinwalkers and he plays zor el in the Supergirl TV show. I don't watch it. So I don't know. Amanda Brooks, who has just done a ton of TV including the birch Nashville Aquarius bones longmire Robert Forster 189 credits including alligator Jackie Brown and the wolf of snow Hello. And then I'm just going to list off a couple of these other names because it's pretty impressive cast. Greg Robertson, who is one of the funniest men in the world, in my opinion. He was unlucky eastbound and down and you would know him as the man who looks to the screen and says it must be some kind of Hot Tub Time Machine. Oh my gosh. It also stars Elizabeth Pena, from La Bomba and Lone Star. Chris Mulkey who has 206 61 credits. You would know him mostly I think as Hank on Twin Peaks. And then Billy gardell, who is another very, very funny guy has been in everything. These are strange South Korean sounding mostly as Mike from Mike and Molly. Okay. Yes, this is a South Korean made film with American actors. Now I'm going to, I'm going to try something different with this because I watched this movie, and I was like, Fuck that. I just watch. So I went to Wikipedia, and looked up the plot. And I could not tell that any of this was happening while I was watching it. So what I've done is I've printed out the Wikipedia plot and I'm going to throw in my, my OSI. Okay, sounds good. So the story follows the adventures of Ethan Kendrick charged in his childhood by the enigmatic jack to protect the Yu Yi ju, n an individual who had been born able to change in a movie, chosen by Heaven into a celestial dragon from a corrupt imoogi identified as brockie, who was prevented from obtaining it in the past by Ethan and Jack's previous incarnations. Ouch, my brain is already hurting. To this end jack gives Ethan a medallion formerly belonging to Ethan's previous incarnation, and reveals that the reincarnated Yogi Jew is Sarah Daniels, and Ethan will find in Los Angeles. So now all of this happens in the first four minutes of the film with this little kid and his dad in a pawn shop that Robert Forster owns. And the dad is trying to sell something that's worth nothing. And the kid is just wandering around and he sees this like this ancient Asian chest and he touches it and it's suddenly like pops open you see a little fairy dust drop off and everything and and Forrester sees this happening behind the dad and so he tells the data I yeah, I'll take this. I'll take it for sure. You know, but I need you need basically sends him on a wild goose chase to get him out of the store. And then he grabs the kid and explains to him everything I just explained to you with a little bit of flashback and everything, and tells the kid you're the chosen one, and you have to meet up with this girl and you'll meet her in Los Angeles. This kid's like nine years old. Oh my god. All right. So I will say this that there is there has to be some kind of something to be said about cultural appropriation when South Korea is filling a film full of their traditions and history with white actors. I don't know what to make of it. I'll tell you what, it's all money. Everyone could just calm the fuck down. People do what they do for money to be disrespectful to a culture or anything like that. Everybody just wants as much money as they can. I mean, this is why the rock isn't definitely not diehard. Yeah, the terrible terrible film by skyscraper skyscraper, yes with Nev Campbell. Okay, back to the Wikipedia. Okay. Yeah. 15 years after this revelation, sir, because the king has to be in his frickin 20s. Right. Rocky invades the city bent on capturing Sarah, were upon Ethan. Now a television news anchor rescues her, conveys the knowledge of her purpose and attempts to save her from brockie during which they eventually regained the memories of their past lives. So by the way, brockie is a giant fucking snake. And he looks awesome. He has like as long as a skyscraper and so he's just barreling down through streets and crushing cars and people Oh my god, it's super cool looking. It is all very, very clunky. In the film, The the dialogue of them telling each other I almost wonder if the actors are being I wonder if there was no script that they were able to read all the way through. And that they were just told what to say, like on the day of shooting, and there was just somebody there was going, Yeah, well, we need to make this happen here. I mean, that's how it feels. Wow. Like maybe even somebody has an earpiece, and it's the best because it is a South Korean director. So I hope that he's saying something to a translator who's then translating that as well as possible to the actor, and then the act of saying something and everybody just thinks Okay, good enough. I'm sure that was the case. Back to Wikipedia. During the resulting chase blue Rockies eight trucks army enters the city and engages the United States Army, the United States Air Force and the Los Angeles Police Department in battle. Here the atrex army is shown to consist of black armored humanoid night warriors. theropod like cavalry called Chuck on his small winged Western dragons called bull clothes and immense slow moving reptiles carrying rocket launchers on their back oh my god identified in the dialog as dollars. So this movie like undecided I have no idea what's going on right? But this starts happening and I am fucking all in. This is so fucking cool looking because there's all these asian style dragons, you know, floating around in the sky. And then there's these weird fucking lizards. They call them rocket launchers here but they're like, medieval style rocket launchers. Think of the scene in Star Wars Episode One where the gungans are fighting the droids right? And the gungans have like all of this primitive technology, but they're shooting plasma balls and shit like that. That's what this looks like only place all of those figures and we're looking creatures and everything in downtown Los Angeles. Sure, so I'm just I'm fucking I'm like, I'm all in I have to talk about this movie. Back to Wikipedia. Despite losses, this army overwhelms the human forces were, or while Ethan and Sarah escaped the city, but are subsequently captured by the Broncos and taken to a menacing fortress in the midst of a darkened desert landscape. There as brockie emerges from the fortress to consume Sarah. Ethan's medallion unleashes power that destroys the a trox army. Ethan then attempts to prevent baraki from consuming Sarah but he has knocked away were upon the good imoogi of whom the power and Sarah was to be given, emerges from the fortress and attacks baraki now, I went to Wikipedia immediately after watching this, and I was like, Oh, is that what? This is so fucking confusing in the movie. It made no sense to me. But the best part of this is that Sarah who is the good imoogi she emerges from the fortress Well, what I'm not telling you is that she is also now a giant fucking snake. Oh my gosh, he's awesome. It's it's really cool looking because they're like winding around skyscrapers and shit and You'd love it just for the for the disaster porn. Yes 100% part human parts snake or just all things all snake, Scott her thoughts? I'll put that in the Yeah. Okay, back to Wikipedia. The two imoogi Good and Evil engage each other in a duel that brockie appears to win after seemingly snapping the good emojis neck. After this brockie again approaches Sarah, who finally offers herself willingly, but instead gives her power to the injured good imoogi who absorbs it? Sarah faints and baraki can do nothing as the good movie becomes the celestial dragon type long dragon, continuing the duel until it finally destroys brockie so now the snake sprouts wings and then switches over to become a traditional Asian dragon. And it is whipping through the air undulating and all of this shit It is so fucking just like you know what, I don't care what's going on. It's It's fantastic. I loved it. Back to Wikipedia. We're coming up on the final thing. Okay. After Brock he is destroyed. Ethan watches Sarah dissolve into a spirit form and the celestial dragon permits permits her to speak to Ethan, whom she assures that they shall see each other again and promises to love for all eternity. Then withdraws Sara into its body and ascends into the sky through the parting clouds to the heavens. JACK Forster, who's been gone this entire movie right? He suddenly appears behind Ethan reminding him that the two of them have been given a great honor to take part in this transformation. And then he vanishes after whispering Goodbye, old man. Ethan walks away into the desert. Oh my god, but they'll need again their next version of life form. I mean, I was just like, What just happened? Okay, so he lost the girl. She's a puddle somewhere. And but she is she's the dragon. Right? So she's just flies off. And so the dragon still exists? Yeah. And he then walks off into the desert. He doesn't get to be a dragon and go somewhere to know. Hmm, well, I don't know he didn't do that here. And he didn't do it in the Wikipedia. So I guess he's not a dragon. It's hard for me to tell for sure what happened in this movie? Vanessa. here's, here's the thing. I will say this. I enjoyed this better than Godzilla vs. Kong. And I'll tell you why. The people who are like Kelly, you're worried too much about the human story. Don't you just want to see monsters fight? And my answer to that is yes. So don't bog me down with stupid human story that if what you really want is just to show monsters fighting when you make because the only time I'm going to be like, I don't buy this is when the humans are on screen. They're the ones doing things that I know how to relate to. If there's a gigantic ape with a laser axe, fighting a huge lizard on top of a skyscraper. I'm gonna have to go, well, that could happen because right, they're happening. Right? I see that. So I would say that, that a, that a bad movie with a bunch of good monster scenes is a better monster movie than a much better looking movie that has a bunch of really so so human parts, I can respect that. So yeah, only a little bit of trivia. And here's where we go into that. Did this really cost $32 million? Because some sources say that it may have actually skyrocketed as high as $99 million dollars. Holy shit. Why? I mean, it looks great. I will say that the effects look fucking great. So and then, of course, you know, all American actors, all that stuff. So they're, this is the first Korean production in nearly three decades to receive wide theatrical release in the United States. And then I've got a couple of reviews here. Archie Khan, this one is from an Amazon viewer who says if you're under 13, or above 13, and pretty intoxicated, you'll enjoy dragon war. Seven Stars. Wow. So that's why it's so wait a second. I mean, I had been drinking, how much wine was currently In your system, that's always a question mark. What's like the budget? No one's really sure. Less than 49% Okay, Luke why Thompson in LA Weekly derided the film as one for connoisseurs of the totally preposterous crap School of fantasy cinema? You know who you are. You have all the warlock sequels on LaserDisc and the complete leprechaun series on DVD. And then he said it's funnier when it tries to be serious than when it goes for the gag. I do have all the warlock series on blu ray we're not the leprechaun I walked away from this film good you know what? Not a bad way to spend 90 minutes and I really appreciated that it was 90 minutes Yes, yes. And get out Yes. I do not need 120 minutes of monsters fighting specially when 40 of us can be cut out with all the stupid human shit. Wow, what a crazy variety of content. This was. This was a cool, yeah, good job. Because I was afraid that we'd all just pick a Godzilla movie or something like that. And so it was nice that we we all went a little a little deeper than that. off the beaten path. Yeah. Chim Godzilla at least you know, it's not like you did the 1950s Godzilla or something? No, it felt like a very, very different Yeah. Okay, I think that means it's my turn right? Yeah. Maybe well listen up, dudes and dudettes we are going to be down at the HP Lovecraft Film Festival this weekend. And we would normally be recording an episode this weekend. So what we have decided to do is record an episode down at the Lovecraft Film Festival now it won't be like our live Krypton show or anything like that. 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