140 HEY KIDS, IT'S COSMIC!
We're down at the H.P. Lovecraft Film Festival, so what better topic than Cosmic Horror? Apologies in advance for any sound issues - we did it on the fly in our hotel room! We also go deep into Midnight Mass and religion in general... abandon all hope, ye who enter!Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/strangeaeonsr)
Oh, sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition? sites to show you Strange Aeons. Welcome to Strange Aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Yep. Yes. Vanessa over there. Hello. That makes me Kelly. We are sitting in a lovely hotel room at the HP Lovecraft Film Festival and Portland, Oregon. And we realized, Oh, we don't have an episode ready for next week. So we better hurry up and do something. That's right. And it is as far as hotel room. This is much better than what we're used to staying out when we're down for the left craft, although it does lack a character. Do you normally stay in the hotel down the road that's missing the M and it looks like no one has ever washed the sign. Yeah. Here's the Banfield motor in Oh my god, that place looks terrible. Eric and I walked into this place and we were like, what? The bathroom door closes all the way. There's no holes in the wall. What is this place? No, you're telling me that that motel was booked out now it's closed for COVID or they're doing something looks like we're doing more renovations or something. There's no problem taking this time to replace the doors like that. I don't know. It's it's been a mainstay for the Lovecraft Film Festival for us. But everyone who stays there just jokes about how awful This place is. They've had the balls then to raise their rates because they know they're the only place within walking distance of the festival. So their rates which are $89 a night suddenly are $149 during the film festival. It is a hotel I would never stay at Yeah, except for the Lovecraft festival because I know it's absolutely filled up with just Lovecraft people yeah, make a huge difference Yeah, I would drove past it and was like this is the scariest looking hotel I've ever seen in my entire life. I've driven through the middle of the country I stayed in places that 100% cockroach but that awful about serial killer level and that was just the outside there have been times we walked in there and there would be like a weird rust stain on the wall and a bullet hole around it and this looks suspicious Yeah. third part is it's a whole lot better than it was 10 years ago. Oh yeah. Whoa. Oh my god, you guys. I don't know if I can come back next year. At some point in your life, you need to stay at the Banfield if you're it really is a rite of passage. How have you guys been enjoying the festival though? Yeah, it's an experience. You know what? It's the Hollywood theater which I've never seen a show at. I've actually come through here a few times and been outside of it a few times, but I've never actually gone in so that's been a real joy to check out the theater. The vendors have been awesome it looks like they they really put on a cool little Oh yeah, little event here. Your Simon Gwynn. do great work. First of all, Brian and Gwen are the loveliest people on the planet. I can't say enough about them. When it comes by and gives me a hug every time she sees me it just makes me feel good. So thank you Glenn. But you're seeing literally a 10th of what normally happens at this festival. Really yeah because it looks I was actually surprised how full it was considering like everything it's usually fuller plus two more screens running plus What's it EOD or whatever that's called yeah they they rent out the senior center across the way oh my god that's just full of author readings and vendors stuff like that so you're you're constantly traveling cross the street and doing stuff and seeing stuff and it's a big huge production and well the world has changed and they changed with it I'm really glad that they were able to do something in person last year was streaming only and they're doing streaming next weekend if you right want to check out some Lovecraft shorts right which at the time of you hearing this episode will be tomorrow Yeah, Saturday and Sunday. Yep. I will say the thing I think that impressed me the most about this so far is the the audience and the kind of people who are coming here to watch scumbags. Lovely scumbags. It will one point I think it was Gwen who got on the stage and said you know how many Raise your hand if you backed with a Kickstarter and I swear pretty much everyone but maybe five people and I was one of them had not backed it. I was like, oh my god. This is a film festival because of its limited space. That's out. Oh, yeah, yeah, they sell out is normally quite easily Yeah. And have for many years. It's so specific. And it's such a direct concept that the people that attracts come from all over the country, and they come every year. So there's a lot of people that you see again and again and again. And there's the hanging out afterwards. And yeah, that's where that's where a lot of the neatness of it comes in. Because it's just because you know, it's still a film festival Film Festival opinions on the movie are going to be divergent, shall we say? I mean, all film festivals have even the best film festivals, even Sundance, you know, like, has a variety of films, some of which people walk out of. So yeah, yeah. There was a movie yesterday that I won't name the title of, but I didn't finish it. But I gave it 90 minutes of my life. And I wanted to stand up and say, has anybody here heard a three act structure? You wouldn't have been wrong. Yeah. Yeah. As somebody who sat through the last 10 minutes of it. Yeah, very much. Yeah, my that was something my thinking was, I've given this 90 minutes. I'm finishing this. Hoping. And then it didn't even finish the story of the book, or the short story or whatever, like this. Yeah. Which is weird. I don't know. I feel like some filmmakers, especially when you're early into your career, get really artsy and think that you're being profound, but you're really just not telling, you know, right size, interesting stories. And I was definitely one of those when I started. So I was just, I mean, it kind of bothered me, Eric and I, and we have discussed this with you Vanessa, Eric and I made a film for about $30,000 that we're not particularly happy with. But now we're like God, what we could do with $30,000 now in today's technology, and the film we are discussing right now that had a budget there was a lot of money spent on that and I'm just like boy, this needed another pass on the script or some different ideas or something but a ton of money went into that and I just don't know how they get that back. Wow. Yeah, they won't know they there's no way there's no way and that's that's the other sad thing about watching people who enter the film industry early on and think that they can either through their short films, or through a feature make their money back and I'm like, Oh, no. You don't understand how this works at all. If you if you spent your own money is gone. You're not seeing that again. Yeah, good times. So thanks. During during the filming, I wanted to talk to you about a series that I just finished and you just finished and Eric did not finished but is said he's okay with spoilers on I've got like, I think I'm 10 minutes into the last episode. So we're talking about mass, and we're talking spoilers on Midnight Mass. How long did it take you to realize this was a vampire story? Oh, my God. Probably the first or second episode Really? Well, because as soon as the animals started disappearing, that that cat thing, yeah, I was pretty sure at that cat thing. Wow, damn. That's impressive. It is impressive. It took me with the Monsignor and going into the cave and then being attacked by the actual vampire from a painting to realize, Oh, is this a vampire show is not crazy. It's like it's got a real Salem slot feel to it? It really does. You can you can clearly see that. Flanagan is a king fan. And even his original stuff feels like King stuff. Yes, yeah. He needs to do more. I want him to do some more direct adaptations. See what he does with you know, there's so many King things that with as many kings stuff has been made, they're still unsure about that. For sure. Or could be read on? Yeah, well, yeah, there's a lot of I think the king is like a please do another thing of mine. But at some point, Flanagan has got to be like, I have my own ideas. Also this I mean, this is what this was. Yeah. This is all his. Again, Kings influences. blindingly. Yeah. And he you know, I think we were talking about revival, his film that never got made. That's based on Stephen King's book. And there's some ideas from that are very similar to revival and I think they must have come from his script adaptation of that book. Right. Yeah. So I really enjoyed it. I think that it flubbed a little bit at the end. Really what I think that he I still think it's the best ending he's ever had. For sure it will I agree to that. I think At the ending, I was extremely happy because it actually kind of ended in a way that felt satisfying. Yeah, but what was the flood? Do you think, oh, there's the whole thing of the vampire that's feeding the the, you know, the vampire King, I guess you would call them that's feeding and can't be bothered to react to bullets being shot into it, which is just foreshadowing so they could show the scene at the end where she cuts its wings and it doesn't notice. Yeah. And I was like, This is ridiculous. If you're an animal feeding and somebody shoots at you, you're gonna react immediately to this. Yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly, I think the biggest flub was that it's a vampire story. And no one there knows what a vampire is. And has ever heard of one understands how they function. But here was the brilliance of this was making it so that everybody could walk around in the light and everything that immediately tells you as a film goer, oh, they can't be vampires. True. No, that didn't happen until what Nosferatu in 1922. So yeah, I will. This is this show deeply affected me. I am deeply in love with it. And I think the reason is, I can connect to it on so many levels, because it's about an island, which is something I grew up on. So in there, like, gotta get the boat for the Mainland's. And the weird, quirky people who live out there and the drunk the one drunk guy that everyone knows is the drunk guy. And everyone knows the history of that's very, very Island life. And then the Catholicism mixed in the guy who plays that. Monsignor is an incredible actor. I I tried to look up like what he'd been in before because he seems so familiar. And he really hasn't starred in anything that I could see. And he just nailed that. That feeling of a priest who's very, very sincere and passionate, but also tone deaf. Yeah, so Oh my god, Eric, weren't you saying he was from Friday Night Lights or something? Now that was the younger guy the alcohol okay? Who was also I mean, I gotta say the acting in this was fantastic. Even when fine again, his stories are weaker. The performances are always freaking amazing. And the monologues I mean, just like the that last episode, there were two moments in it that completely summed up my feelings on religion. It was, it was eerie. Like it was completely eerie at one point when the sheriff is doing that Bible quote, when he gets shot in the leg. When I was in eighth grade at Catholic school, we had to pick out a quote from the Bible for for graduation, and I was a bit of a rebel. And so I picked the quote about that exact quote that exact same fucking quote, because I was like, I knew what the next line is, it's about being rained on equally for the rich and the poor, and the good and the bad. And like, I was like, Yes. Fucking Yes. And about being Stardust and being just pieces of some greater universal hole. I was like, that's literally how I feel about everything. And I've had all of these arguments, everything that they're hitting upon here about how religion is so toxic in so many ways. I was just like, I've literally experienced this moment. It it really resonated with me, and I realized that it probably didn't with everybody, but God. The main lady that was helping him out. Yeah, they're super religious lady. Yeah, I grew up with so many people like that in my town where I because I was basically raised nondenominational and they can't handle that. No, there are several, several strong, obviously large Mormon contingent where I grew up and there's also a lot of Christian Catholic and I had teachers that tried to convince me that I need to come up with a religion Even if my parents don't think I should and all this kind of shit fucking crazy. She was so like, I can think of three or four, three people and my junior high to high school years that were just like her that I had to deal with, you know, and the crazy thing is, so on the island, I grew up on the biggest there. There's a lot of churches for 300 people. The biggest one was a very specific version of Christian and I grew up Catholic and I was one of four or five Catholic people on the island. And they basically called me a freak. So even when you have a specific denomination, you still don't have the right version of God. Yeah, you've got to get whatever that version. Yeah, I was called a marry lover, and basically treated like I was a cultist. They're like you got tattoos in stained glass and shit weirdo like well Okay, calm down you marry lover man. A lot of shit never heard that term before but I was also raised nondenominational and I guess I was very lucky. I grew up in a very liberal little town up in all up in Bellingham Washington. That doesn't make sense. I didn't I didn't get all of the horrible shit. You know, it's it's just so it's everywhere it seeps into. So as soon as you organize your religion, and you tell people how to pray, and how to think and how to believe and if you don't do it that way, you're wrong. We're all fucked, though. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, it's wild, because watching what was the play of Trey and Parker did the Mormon of the Book of Mormon, the Book of Mormon? Yeah, I remember seeing that play. And everybody around me like cracking up and reacted to him going. Well, this is just, this is just how it is accurate. I mean, the Mormons fought against it. And then it came out. And now you go to see it. And there's ads for Mormonism in the program. Oh, my God, it's it is actually incredibly accurate. That is unreal. is unreal. Today on a very special we're all coming out in this intimate setting in the third room of Mormon kids in our neighborhood. And all I remember was they were just the nicest family on the block. Yeah, our neighbors are Mormon and they're so they're so good to my my family. And they've treated us I mean, they've they've done more for my mom than almost anyone else on Earth. So that's nice. Yeah, they're, they're good people. Probably can be good. They can. Yes. People can there are people who can be good people out there on Earth. Other things that have happened is we've got a voodoo doughnut box right here. Yeah, I mean, we're in Portland when in Portland, I guess so much. There's one of your first trips Voodoo. Oh, now okay. Not at all. But my boyfriend is along for the ride and he had never been to video. And so I was like, Yes, we have to go buy a lot of donuts. One bite of all of them as is my way. The top pass of doughnuts if you are you have a doughnut flight I could get a doughnut hole of every single one of these because that would be my dream. Yeah, no, absolutely. I love sharing video with people and i don't i don't know that they are the best I would say that they're not the best doughnuts but they certainly have a an aesthetic they do they do their their box here their pink box with the slogan Good things come in pink boxes. That's such a Portland thing to do. Rice Yeah, with like the very Louisiana style skull art on it. And Vanessa delivered doughnuts to us last night. Morning sex Panther, which is a Irish bar we hang out with and thankfully then you joined and had drinks with the group of people that were there. So that was cool. Yeah, it was super fun. I mean, you guys included me in your lives. And that's what friends do. They show up at midnight at English pub. With a box of doughnuts. That is an Irish Pub. Do not get us thrown out of this. Hi. Oh, is there when I googled it? bangers and mash and sausage rolls and yeah, I mean, those are English. Yeah. But whatever. It's cool. I guess it's Irish over here. Right? But somebody who's actually been, I'm like, Yeah, it's a Scottish. Well, I guess I'm Scottish Irish. I mean, there's usually a lot more cabbage involved. Yes, maybe they're just smarter and they're no haggis, no cabbage. And then separately, we all went to Powell books, books, which is a block wide several storey high building full of books. Yeah, you know, I love I've loved in the past, going to polls and I have usually frequented their graphic novel section. And this time, it was fairly miserable. Oh, no, it's just so full of people like the graphic novel section was it was like, you know, 10 people deep in a pretty small aisle. And I was like, You know what, not worth it. I'm not gonna worry. I'm gonna go over and find I've started dabbling back into writing. And so I went to the writer section was like, what books do you have on writing? It was completely abandoned. No one was across from the romance. So I went to the movie section. that's usually where I ended up going with Books and reference of that stuff but it was crowded and oddly warm. It was hot. It was like hot in there. Yeah, well the sun's coming right through those Southern facing windows but I'll get a little pervy here, cuz I also went to the graphic novel section. And you young nerds don't know how good you've got there were so many attractive young women going through the Let me tell you in the 80s that's not how it was. Oh, I am sure also, we are on the west coast. And the people who the women who are frequenting these aisles are very different than what you might find in like the South. Good point. Yeah, so I know a lot of very lonely nerds in the south in the Midwest who are like, Where are the ladies? I hear that they like nerd stuff. Where are they? I'm like we have them all in the Northwest. Yeah. And then finally, you're invited Vanessa but you decided to turn it down. Andrew migliori who is the original founder of the film festival is taking Eric and I and a couple other people to a private tour of a whiskey and gin distillery today in Portland nice sounds god awful It's gonna be so much fun. Next time you see me I'm gonna be just my arm around you Vanessa that's been like almost every other moment of the festival Valley and that's why I'm the driver you know I'm so stoked for you guys and it's gonna be great and if they had even vodka tasting or water tasting if they had anything other events but you know like a fun version of it um, I would be in but unfortunate You know what, you guys have a good time we will have a good time Angela made sure to let us know that they are not open on Sundays. They are open on Sunday today for us so cool. So yeah. Oh, cool. Guys, you're gonna say Andrews have been anxiously awesome. Many, many. Yeah. He really is. And we got to see some other friends Aaron and Leah show. Leah, you remember bought me the the weighted blanket in my time of need and all that. And they were not going to come here and then suddenly texted me and said, Hey, we're swinging by just to hang out with some people at the bar. And so that was neat to see. It has been so wonderful to me. More people and people who listen to the show to which I I'm always surprised every time it happens. Because Leah was like, it's so weird to talk to you. listening to you, I was like, oh, weird. Thank you. Those moments like I remember having also with like, Facebook posts or something years ago where somebody comments on something you've said here and you go. I think you mentioned this is like oh yeah, this actually goes out and people do actually listen to us. Oh, that's so cool. I'm always amazed that anybody listens to that show. Yes, exactly. What's wrong with you people? better things to do like laundry. Oh, this is so much. This is the best thing you can be doing this moment. Thanks. Thanks for listening mom. My mom too. Thank you. And Kelly's mom. You know, speaking of the description of the last episode was Eric brings COVID to his co workers my mom texts me Oh no, she says I haven't listened to the episode but what is this about Eric bringing COVID to you guys. Mom It was a joke. It's fine everyone's fine everyone's Hey, nice Ryan. Yeah, back relax. So well we do have a regular topic word discussing but why don't we take a little break and we'll come back and we're going to be talking about uh, well I guess it was my pick to do cosmic horror. Alright. Come to the beautiful island green and land of liquid Mr. kasky sparkling droplet liquid proud beautiful island green liquid pres extra rich formula into Tara leads here radio luxuriously clean, beautiful island green and know the luxury that liquid proud can give you. We have returned from whatever do the old commercial Eric has popped into our feet. Oh, well. This is my sub genre pic. And because we are down here for the Lovecraft Film Festival, I thought it would be neat to do something that was Along those lines of cosmic horror or weird horror, anything didn't have to be lovecraftian, necessarily. But with that in mind, I chose from 2016 the void. Have you ever wished to save someone? Beyond on the saving? No matter what the parks? This is uncharted territory. The body has to adjust. Of course, we weren't built for this kind of thing. You'd be surprised at the things you find. When you go looking. calling them all the people get in here, what are we supposed to do? What was you know, we go in? I do. So you're familiar with this? Oh, yeah, I guess unbelievably excited when I saw the trailer. For budget, I could find no information, but I do know that $83,000 of it was raised from Indiegogo, which they use on their effects. The box office was $368,372. worldwide. Specific. Yep. Rotten Tomatoes. The critics have it at 77% the audience has it at 47% Yeah, it was written and directed by both Jeremy Gillespie, who's mostly a first assistant art director on shows like lock and key the boys it the shape of water Star Trek discovery, and the best show on television, Hannibal. That's not on television anymore. So good. It's been canceled for a long time. And if you're done shitting all over the best show on the show. I've never seen Sam and was also written and directed by Steven Kosinski who directed man Borg leprechaun returns, and psycho Gorman boy the difference in status to list it really well this guy's continued directing the other guy is assistant art director on a bunch of huge shows that are just continuing on it's not so bad a career. No, that's pretty good. extremely, extremely good stuff. It stars Aaron pool who has 84 credits, including spiral that that latest saw the empty man, oh, and American Gods and also stars Daniel fathers who was in Pontypool Orphan Black and dark matter. Kathleen Monroe, who has been in the Dresden Files Haven, alphas and the car road to revenge. Ellen Wang, who has been in glow dark matter and was knives Chow and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. Oh sure. Nick by Sark, who was in the magician, Supergirl, The X Files the 100 supernatural izombie I am going to go out of go out on a limb and say that he lives in Vancouver, British Columbia. Yeah, that sounds about right. And then finally Art hindle 184 credits, seven that are completed and in production right now. You might recognize him from Invasion of the Body Snatchers, the 78 version, the brood millennium. He's very, very familiar character. Okay, you both seen this film? Yes, correct. And I'm going to guess most of our listeners have seen this film too, but I wanted to give myself a second viewing on it because I didn't like it when I first saw. Yeah. I liked it more this time. Okay, cool. So it starts with a man fleeing from a farmhouse and escaping into the woods and then right behind him, a screaming woman who is trying to follow but is then shot down by these two guys to come out of the house that she's in. lying on the ground. They walk up to her doused with gasoline, and set her on fire. That is the opening scene and it is it is pretty intense. Yeah, opened well. Then we meet deputy sheriff Daniel Carter, who is on duty sitting in his patrol car when he sees the man who just escaped crawling out of the woods right in front of him seems very unlikely that this would coincidentally lead out onto the small country road he's hiding on, but that's what's going on. And they he grabs him rushes into the local hospital. And this is where the budget of the film starts showing up. The local hospital is short staffed Because it has been damaged by a fire just recently. So that's kind of creative way to try and explain why. We're seeing one hallway, one room and three people on staff. I forgot they had an excuse for that. Yes. So it's a skeleton crew of nurses, a doctor and a few patients, including a pregnant young girl and her grandfather. By the way, Daniel Carter, his estranged wife, Allison works there as a nurse so that complicates things a little bit. This is where everything starts happening. So Daniel walks in on a man who's been in the hospital already to find that the nurse and everybody this is a small town, so everybody knows each other. So he knows the nurse who he sees. murdering the patient. Oh, and she has flayed her own face of skin. And then she starts walking towards him with a scalpel and it's somebody he knows I think her name is Beverly, and he keeps you know, he's pointing his gun at her and saying Beverly drops a scalpel, scalpel and all this shit and and then he has to shoot her and so he's, he's very, very troubled by this. Sure. So state trooper shows up and that's art handle. And he is there to collect the man that the deputy had found crawling on the side of the road. And that is because he has discovered the bloody scene at the farmhouse with a woman that was set on fire and all of that stuff. And there's a really uncomfortable scene where the trooper is dressing him down for for letting this whole situation go to shit because he's come there now there's a nurse dead she's killed her patient all this shit in this trip is just like what the fuck kind of town are you running here? So Daniel goes outside to call him the nurses death from his patrol car, but is then confronted by a robed cultist and it's a very basic looking kind of cult robe with a hood that covers the face and then a black triangle in the middle of the face. And for how basic it is. It's very, it's very effective. It's really creepy looking. And this guy basically rushes in and stabs him. He managed to escape back into the hospital, but as he's looking back behind him, the entire hospital is now surrounded by all these cultists. And I'm watching this one. Now why didn't I like this? This is starting off really strong and it's giving off a really cool Prince of Darkness vibe. We can talk a little bit about that because Prince of Darkness is not a film that I love. But there's so much of it that I do like I think I'm angry at it for the way it kind of goes I feel like this kind of idea would have made a much better Prince of Darkness idea yeah, it's funny because I was thought of it more as a assault on precinct 13 vibe. Which which Prince of Darkness also has yes yeah. So if you kind of exactly if you kind of combine the best moments of both of those things you Yeah, got a pretty solid Yeah, I agree solid movie. So Daniel and the the two guys who had burned the lady at the beginning they had come in also and they basically kind of taken the hospital hostage and they're going to kill his the man that they had that he had found crawling on the roads and there's something going on where everybody's kind of ending up at this hospital the cultists now apparently know something's going on here. The two men who want to kill the man, and then the man himself. The man is here, the man, the dude. Well, they've they walk into the room where he's handcuffed. And they find that the nurse that he had killed has turned into this pretty gruesome, tentacley monster thing that's expanding and, and looking pretty cool. This is where the film starts to fall apart. Haha, there we are. It's the script writing, unfortunately, because the effects look great for the most part of the camera work. And this is really nice. And the actors are all doing a pretty decent job. But the script now then has them. They decide to add conflict by making everybody angry at each other. So there's now just a bunch of people yelling at each other, which is like a real rookie move. And writing is like, Whoa, how do I escalate things? Well, everyone's got a gun and everyone's angry. And so we'll just start yelling. And I was like, Okay, you guys. You've got a bunch of cultists outside. You got a monster inside. And that is enough conflict. We can have people talking and saying, alright, what do we do? We're kind of Fuck, it turns into a siege movie like we were talking about. But the interesting part is that the cultists don't want in. They want to make sure that nobody gets out and that's the prince of darkness. Under Siege they've got going on. Gotcha. So from there, it turns into all sorts of gruesome shit. There's reanimated corpses and hideous monsters that are totally a love letter to john carpenter, the effects they're going for are very Rob butene the thing affects stuff like that. But what we really find out is that the real point of all of this is that the young girl who is pregnant is now going to be giving birth to something. But we're not exactly sure what. And the other part where this movie falters, is that they, they decide, I love the idea of not telling us what's going on and making us live in the moment and being as confused as everybody there. You know, because the, the temptation is to have a villain then start spouting exposition so the audience can catch up on what's going on. Well, they don't do that. So now you're like, well, but I do want to know what's going on. So you get a little lost. The girl who's pregnant, I don't I don't really understand what happens to her. But now Daniel's estranged wife is pregnant with the creature instead. Yeah, I remember being extremely confused by everything involving that pregnancy. Yes. There's a triangle shaped portal to somewhere the void, I assume. Although we see what's in later, and it's not a void. So take that for what it's worth. There is a lot of really great lovecraftian and cosmic horror here. It feels very much to me like Prince of Darkness. And quite honestly, it works for me better than that movie did because the failing of Prince of Darkness, I think, is that once the people inside start getting possessed, it turns into kind of a slasher movie. And it's just that he's just hunting down one person after another. And I was like, Oh, this was so cool. And now it's, it's kind of basic. And this one never goes that route. So what I really would love is these guys to get a nice budget and for them to get the chance to remake Prince of Darkness. Just makes that movie with this movie. And scary all the way through. Yeah. A little bit of trivia. The writers of the film say they were inspired by Guillermo del Toro who was working on at the mountains of madness, which we all know never happened. Oh, man, I didn't even know that was a thing. Oh, yeah. And he made a comment about wanting to do love craft, but in a way that no one had envisioned or seen before. So they were doing. One of them was working with Gilmer oil and like the art department, and the other guy was like, at the studio doing something else and they both came together and we're like, oh, why don't we do that? Let's craft like nobody's seen before. Gillespie and Stan ski managed to crowdfund the money they needed to build the practical creatures that appear on screen. Other assistance came from the team working on David Ayer Suicide Squad, which was shooting in Toronto. Gillespie served as assistant art director and cosanti as a makeup effects artists on that film, which led to members of the special effects team on suicide squad to work on the void. Gillespie later declared the void as a difficult production, noting that every single thing was the biggest challenge. It was a soul crushing nightmare. Jesus, everybody was pushed to the limit on this movie. The one ray of hope we got was the cast, which came together at the last second. They were very easy to deal with. Wow, well, that's good. unusual. Yeah. Yeah. The filmmaker say they intentionally leave the black pyramid and much of the cold a mystery for viewers to use their own imaginations and create their own explanations and theories. Thanks fuckers. You did you did us no favors. There's a magazine in Toronto called now. And now magazine found that the directors were still operating in their referential comfort zone with the film being a savvy mashup of at least for john Carpenter pictures. It was still its own entity, an effective resourceful nightmare that convinces you the apocalypse is climbing just out of sight beyond the edge of the screen. I think that's pretty accurate I agree with it. The 40% 47% really kind of shocks me because at the very least you should be on board with this because of the practical effects and the the intent of the filmmakers to not go you know, CGI. Yeah, um, I kind of get it though. As somebody who paid seven bucks or something and wants it back still. You guys could go ahead and just send that on over to me send over a Strange Aeons radio. There you go happily take it. Because I think because the effects I remember it's been a while but we're Looking phenomenal yeah the trailer was fucking unreal so good but when it came to the storytelling which some of us like some of us do in fact enjoy a story of any kind It was so lacking not only in the script but in the way that it was shot I remember there were so many medium shots that I had no idea what room I was in. Yeah, I was in the room where we were going why we were there, what they were reacting to, I never understood and I never felt connected in the right moments at the right time because of what shots were being chosen to be seen. And it just the way the story was projected just through I don't know if it was the shooting or the editing. inferior ated infuriated infuriated me extra civil so many so much infuriation that I had to put in an extra like you are in there for good measure nice yeah, you know, it did it felt like they had they loved a lot of movies and they paid tribute to a lot of movies and I don't know where their idea was. At times I felt like I wanted to know I wanted them to do something a little bit different or at least tell us what the different thing they were doing was and you saying things like she was the granddaughter the pregnant girl in the beginning I never figured out who the guy was I was like is that like her sugar daddy like who is this dude bro? Maybe they said it but I remember not knowing and being like this is a creepy couple. I don't know what it is but like um no it is it is dropped in but she calls him grandpa or something like that. Okay well that's exactly how I felt on first feeling and so I was I'm really glad I gave myself a second feeling because I ended up liking it quite a bit more even if I didn't know what was going on. Yeah, and I wonder I do wonder if now that you're talking about it I wonder if after seeing stuff like malignant and starting to get a little bit more patience for filmmakers and understanding the process and the difficulties and I do love special effects a lot more than I used to. I wonder if my opinion would be a little bit past your film school. Yeah, my school I am so fucking smart. I I've only seen it once. And I do remember all the beginning and I remember a few effects shot but nothing else in that movie stuck with me at all. Yeah, and I think that's because it is not a well told tale. It's just a really cool set piece which some cool shit happens. Yeah, give it another try. It's it's free on TV right now. So okay, cool. Fantastic. Well, I guess it's my turn to discuss cosmic horror. Yes, I should just go ahead and start by saying I had to Google what cosmic horror was? Does it mean space? Does it mean Lovecraft? Like what is it really about? And so my my takeaway was it's sort of this unseen, almost bordering on existential terror. Right now. Oh, vibrates through your bones and you don't know why. So that being said, I was so excited by seeing midnight mass that one of the one of my Google finds for cosmic or best cosmic horror films available was absentia. Let's call them lucid dreams that you're having. They started about the time you decided to declare him dead in absentia. you're describing visual auditory, even tactile hallucination. He's not the only one not even close. They declared Walter dead in 2002. I ran into him just last week to see me find a son because his dad was taken away by a monster. sleeping. Things go missing in this neighborhood. Those things turn up in one place. I was seeing things too. They felt so real. We found a body and a tunnel. You lock the door. I know that sounds we're gonna question you are like a swear to you. I can hear him in the wall. Hey, I know this one. Yeah, yes. Actually, that was something that came up in my trivia Eric so I won't Okay, make a note of that. Um, that this phone is from 2011 and it is a mess. Mike Flanagan joins well first of all Rotten Tomatoes score 87% critics 49% audience. So audience was myth about it? budget of $70,000 no box office information that I could find. Sure. My guess is that they made their money back in distribution and probably didn't even have like a theater run really good festivals. Yeah, yeah. Um, so Mike Flanagan is the guy we're talking about earlier with Midnight Mass he is has also done Hill House, Bly Manor. You would know him from Gerald's game doctor sleep, Oculus Hush. And of course, a film I already talked about Weegee origin of terror at origin of evil. This film lands squarely between him doing the Oculus short film in oh six. He did this in 11. And then he got to do the feature for Oculus and 13. So this was kind of right before he really had a breakout. He still was a struggling artist, and oh, yeah, there's not much of that. That's $70,000 he did a good job with what he had. I will say yeah, for sure. Definitely. This is starring Katie Parker as Kelly. She is kind of our main main heroine. She has been in 38 things including Bly Manor, Doctor sleep Hill House, she also was in an episode of Masters of Sex, and she's currently starring in a TV show show called alt. And we have Courtney Bell as Tricia, the pregnant one. She She mostly does TV bit roles. She was also an Oculus as an auctioneer, Dave Levine as Dr. mallet sorry detective Mallory. So I did handwritten notes this time guys, I'm not reading. I know right back by throwback to you not being able to read your own writing. I know it's a really special. It's a really special feeling. Detective Mallory who's been in 12 things including the Oculus short, he was also in the Oculus future as Robert Clancy. And he's done 22 episodes of space, something space, space, guys in space. I think a space guys in space. I'm Morgan Peter brown as Daniel who's the guy who's missing he's been in 58 things. Weegee he was he was in Weegee, the first one as a grief counselor, lots and lots of shorts and does a lot of TV day playing. And last but not least, Doug Jones. Yep, that was weird. We would all know Doug Jones as being the guy on 171 things if he is tall and a little weird looking. It's probably Doug Jones. Abe sabian from Hellboy, the pale man slash font from Pan's Labyrinth, Saru, India's nine in the amphibian and shape of water. Also, I didn't realize he's the Bye bye, man and the bye bye man. familiar with that one of his isn't by by a man the thing we all Oh, wait, no, nevermind. I'm sorry. I was thinking of the tall man. Oh, okay. This This fact is way less exciting. Oh, no, I'm sad. Okay. So the story of this is, we start off with a very pregnant woman putting up some missing person posters. This is Trisha. She we're not really sure why she's pregnant. We don't know a lot about I think, okay, we know why she's pregnant. But she has a husband who has been missing and it turns out he's been missing for seven years. So this pregnancy is a little like, Okay, this is an interesting time to be pregnant. Yeah, I was like, he's only been missing for like six months, right? And they're like, well, we're gonna file a missing death certificate because he's been missing seven years when I was like, does anyone want to mention the baby in the room? Just, it's fine. baby in the womb. Am I right? Oh, I'll see myself out. Right there. She is. met up with by her sort of wayward slash prodigal sister Kelly, who comes into town to help her out to kind of help her move, move out of her old apartments, put her stuff together, move on with her life, Kelly was seems to be a drug drug addict, and she'd also been living on the streets and just bumping around for a long time, but she's gotten her shit together. She found Christianity. And now she's available to help her sister out. So the word absentia comes from the the death certificate as the cause of death. It's written there as as in absentia. So, there are a couple of things that are a little bit weird. Trisha is having a lot of strange dreams slash waking nightmares of her husband as this sort of zombie ghost thing, who's super fucking pissed. He's doing a lot of that, like that Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Donald Sutherland, mouth wide open, a gasp, screaming into the air at nothing at her and his mouth is black and his eyes are black and his skin is white. He just pops up all over, which is kind of fun, actually, like there's one moment where she's going through her closet, and he just fucking pops up and you're like, Ah, that guy. Or she's like hanging out with her lawyer, and it's middle of the day and a nice lawyers office and looks over her over the shoulder of the lawyer and he's just standing there. So they do a really effective thing with that. And it's hard to tell what what this is, but she keeps seeing him and she's going to therapy and trying to figure out what's going on. In the meantime, Kelly, who has her shit together is running every day. And you can tell she's got her shit together because she's running every day. What a healthy individual. And she starts running through this nearby tunnel. But of course it's I think it's like la feels very LA. And there's, you know, weird, weird people and there's a homeless guy seems to be slumped over in the tunnel. It's Doug Jones. And he he looks at her and he's like, wait, you can see me. She's like, yeah, sorry, dude, I don't have any money is like wait, no, you can see me. She's like, I gotta, I gotta go by I'll bring you something later and he's like, tell my son, I'm here, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and she pieces out. So there's something strange going on. So in the meantime, we also have detective Mallory, who shows up even though the husband's been missing for seven years seems that maybe the baby is possibly this detective dude Bros. And he's got a thing going with the sister or the pregnant sister. I should say, Detective dude, bro at your service. You know, he's he's doing a good job. He's actually pretty decent actor. So it's official, the husband is declared dead. She gets her wish she can start to move on. She's packing up her shit. She goes on, she gets ready to go on a date with a detective. They're holding hands in public for the first time ever. They're walking out and who should show up in the middle of the street looking all bloody and gross. The missing husband, Daniel has come back. He's pale. He is skinny, his stomach is filled with animal bones. He tells Cali the wayward sister of a strange insect that had him captive in this sort of strange space between the tunnel that she's been running in and the underground somewhere that's here but not here at the same time. And maybe this insect is still after him or her it's hard to say. So the rest of the film is really following around the Sun interesting relationship between this tunnel and this other world and they're fighting trying to keep Daniel there but also Chicka chicka is Cray insect insect be hungry Oh I thought this one was it was pretty good. I will say it It's weird because it's a Flanagan and just seeing Midnight Mass there's so much money and this has no no money no money and he's baby Flanagan so you're like Oh honey, like there's one where they they cut the we've got Kelly she's she's picking up a blanket and we cut to a close up and she's holding a book as like oh you guys love it $70,000 budget right and probably a little bit went to you know Doug Jones for his very good but what a minute of screen time Yeah, they must have done him all in one day. Like, like two hours. Yeah, totally. Well, I mean, they have two scenes with him in it. So they had to dress him up at least twice once with a little more blood. So that's pretty exciting. There's also obviously limited locations. There you never really see the creature although I love what they do with it. There's this strange bug and they use a mix of sound design and like legs in the foreground. Yeah, they kind of shake like some wiggly thing with like, seems to be being shook in front of the camera occasionally and you're like fuck What was that? Yes. Which is extremely effective and works. And you know, I wish I don't know I feel like the seams are really that you want to see a little more you want to see more of what's going on with these homeless people or these people who are going missing. In this tunnel. You want to know more about what's happening in this space. And you don't really get that. And I think that's all down to budget. Like as is genuinely creepy considering I think that all the actors are actually extremely good. And I love that he's building out his plan averse. I can't stop saying, there you go. Why did you do that to yourself? Your name is not worthy of doing that anyways, but I do think it's interesting. You see a lot of sort of hints of some of the things he's going to look into in the future. Like Kelly's newfound religion. We just saw a lot of that explored in Midnight Mass. There's this sort of haunting ghosts that are present and seen by some but not others, which you get in both Hill House and Bly Manor. And there's a couple of really good lines like Kelly comes back from a run at one time. At one point she says, I smell like an armpits asshole. Very, very good. And like just the way that he explores this idea of fear when Daniel comes back to the world of the living or the now or the here, he's so messed up and he's so freaked out and often you see actors really like over act this and, or under acted and just like are comatose or they're freaking out and yelling and shaking. He does a very good job of like writing this line of quiet, but terrified, and at one point, he stops in the street and looks at this tunnel and he just pays himself and you're like fuck, yeah, whoa, like you can do a lot with very little. Um, as far as trivia goes. This this film, I just want to say it did debut at the Fargo Film Festival, but it won Best Feature and Jury Award at Maelstrom. That's right. That is right. Maelstrom International Fantastic Film Festival. Beautiful. Yeah, submitted. And I remember watching the first few minutes and the acting starts off oddly rough. Yeah, I'm kind of half Well, I'll come back and watch this later. And of course you one of the other judges said you know that's directed by the guy who did the Oculus. Yeah. Oh, shit. Back to watch it right now. I'm not going to worry about later. And it is so freaking good. Oh, yeah. I tried hard to get him to come up for yeah here. But he wasn't able to. But had he only done the Oculus short at that point when he had some other things. I tried to get him to send them to me. But he's like, No, no, they're these weird, romantic short things I did. And they're just awful. It's still like the same. I'm trying to remember. Was he at Dragon Con with us? Oh, yeah, he was. So our film was one of three films that year chosen to show at Dragon Con. And the other one was his short Oculus, and then something else. But I remember you and I, Eric watching Oculus and going, mother fucker. What we've been trying to do our entire creepy short film. Yeah. And so smart. And so using a budget, I feel like he was because I feel like he told us the plan was to make a feature of oculus. Yeah, I mean, it feels like, like, that was such a smart move. And I think since then, everybody's kind of been like, Oh my god, that's so clever. Just make a short film of the feature you want to do, which you can afford, like you can afford to make a short film. And then you know, sell it around. Yeah. Generally, that doesn't work. Well. I know of one situation where it worked as as successfully as it is for him. And it's him. But I will prospect. But yeah, it's worked. Well. It worked well for Gigi. She did a couple of really good shorts and then stuff. But I mean the Yeah, it was great to show that and he was he's a lot of fun. He was really easy to work with. And that was really cool. And I remember when Oculus the film came out, I contacted him not realizing it was out so you know, because blue mouse is pretty new cell at that point. But hey, is there any chance we could show? Oculus admit He's like, well, now there's kind of other plants. I was like, Okay. Yeah, interest like international its distribution is already set. distribution, man, I can't really it's, it's it's so frustrating because it's like, but it's a festival Come on. Throughout our way. What I love about this, and him as as a filmmaker, your short film is your business card. And he clearly used that short film to get this very small budget for this feature film, which he then turned around and used as another business card to say, look what I can do for this amount of money. And I don't think that happens as often as we'd like to see it. But it sure worked out right for him. Yeah, watching that. You can see the talent. There are moments in there like you're talking about the silhouette bug that still sticks in my head and the The things he did was sound and stuff. You're going okay, this this. There's real talent here. something needs to be done. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, something that really surprised me, but I loved as well. So Kelly your film was funded by Indiegogo. He actually did run a Kickstarter for this. And he had over 300 donors and 30 days for the pledge drive. He requested 15k and got 25k back when people on Kickstarter actually gave any money towards filmmakers at all. Just now gone. Thanks Zach Braff, you asshole. A couple of really small trivia pieces, there's not a lot. The actress Courtney Bell was actually seven months pregnant when filming. I wonder if like, I don't understand the pregnancy thing. Like if he chose that on purpose, like they never get super far into it. And I feel like it would be a really nice trigger point you could push a little bit further, especially when the husband shows up. There's like one moment where he looks at her and looks at her belly and goes, ah, she's like, you get to say shit up. And I was like, Okay, I guess that's not the mirror hanging on the wall in the psychiatrist's office is the Oculus mirror for the short film this film features you're talking earlier about how he is clearly a fan of Stephen King. This short film features Kelly reading The Dark Tower comic book Oh, which I caught a small edge of and it has like a half price book sticker on it. Like kind of flipping it like you can just see the word arc over like like the D and you can kind of I was like that's a Dark Tower comic you guys Stephen King not to get in trouble. And yeah, that was that was basically it on this I wish I could have found a little bit more but yeah, it was fun. It was fun to see I didn't expect starting starting with Strange Aeons I didn't expect to like this guy at all. And slowly through this show, I have become a fan which is weird. Everything about this is weird. I was so sure I was going to hate him. But now big fan. Big fan the fan versus what one thing that funny little note on that one, you know is still able to communicate with him, which is several years past was when they got distribution for that that poster they put out was so shitty that he sent like this big email to anybody that was festival that anything that it's anybody that had screened that and said you know if you want to put some more ads out about my movie and put the right poster, that would be great because it's terrible. Have you seen that where she's like crawling along the ground? It's totally like a cheapo distribution poster where they they hire new people and substitute them for the original actors and put them in weird situations. I've seen this happen to a lot of our friends. Oh yeah, I don't think so. Oh, so that was just terribly original poster. Was this neat kind of all green with a silhouette in that tunnel? Exactly. That's perfect. Yeah, it was very minimalist exorcise type looking poster oh well yeah all Poor guy. All the images that I came across was the girl in the tunnel or a crawling Yeah girl. That was probably not the main girl that pretty sure it wasn't someone Brando. Nice choice. Yeah. Great choice for topics. So Eric, what what did you end up falling upon? Well, in another nice way that we seem to do several times we're getting three three very different eras of films. I went all the way back to I didn't write the year down. The Haunted palace is like 6061 or 6260s. Late 50s. Yeah. So the haunted palace I'll say 1961. You are invited to an open house where horror will be your host. Haunted palace. You will find the kind of biasness and the horrifying will enjoy yourselves as in ecstasy in the haunted palace, starring Vincent Price being holier and die again and I have my fellow prevention to this village is intriguing Debra Paget, dealing beauty and flame bloodless Charles, please. Violence. torture is passions in pain and terror. cheney carrying on a family tradition of a masterful Motion Picture horror, while the strange and feared new master of the haunted palace reaches for the skeleton of one long dead he's taking a break he will show my work shortly after all these years I'm entitled to a few smaller museums with Vincent Price so that just clears it all out. currently available through screen factory or Paramount plus the rotten tomatoes ratings is 75 from critic 66 from audience which means good maybe a little low but you know, I probably prejudice something. Vincent Price film, no budget I could find the box office it did find was listed at 2,616,000. So did well for an AIP release. This is actually directed by Roger Corman who didn't direct a lot of movies, but he did produce 515 movies. Oh my god, directed 56 and acted in 43. See, this is the kind of career that makes Vanessa go oh, this guy only directed 12 movies. Yes. You know what? I'm getting better. I'm learning my lessons. The writer was the very good Charles Beaumont. Oh, alpha presents he's done turned backward two episodes of thriller The premature burial 22 episodes of the original twilight zone in two episodes of the 80s revival, large figure in the twilight zone world and with good reason. And it was also credited from the poem by Edgar Allan Poe. Yeah. And the story by HP Lovecraft which is the case of Charles Dexter award, more or less. Starring Mr. Vincent Price, you know 210 credits. If you're listening to this show, I'm pretty sure you know that. Vincent Price is the voice of thriller. There you go. Sorry. Moving on. And Deborah PJ or Padgett? I'm not no idea if that tea is pronounced. She plays an award she's been in tell Tales of Terror the 10 commandments from the Earth to the Moon. Apparently she was in a movie with Elvis Presley where he proposed to her she cited the movie Yeah, well, she in real life proposed to her. But she was dating Howard Hughes at the time. Oh my god. this story's amazing already well Alfresco way boy. If you ever seen Priscilla Presley I know exactly why he asked her to marry they are very very similar. Oh, Oh, gross. Also in this movie we have Lon Chaney Jr. From the Wolf Man Of Mice and Men and secret agent x nine. Leo Gordon has been in a crap ton of stuff, including the the remake of Maverick, the Garbage Pail Kids movie, and lots of TV plus, actually a fair amount of fairly famous films. Alicia cook, Jr, Rosemary's Baby, the Maltese Falcon, The Big Sleep hunting, we will go I've never heard of that, either. Or Milton Parsons who is in Caltech, the nightstalker, the ghost of Mrs. Muir and lots of Dick Tracy movies. Like original deck Chase, it's so weird watching when you're doing movies that are this old or the actors are in it's like they're in movies that are 20 years before this. Oh, that has great opening credits with the use of a spider making a web and really really good music. Hey, we do open on the unusual tale of a man who's experimenting in a cold dark Castle in the local town folk don't like it so they burn him at the stake and he curses their family's future. As you do, it's truly rare moment in filmmaking that you see this storyline opening up. And even more rare. 100 some odd years later, the people show up and it's all the same actors. I know who you're playing. You look just like your grandfather. Genes are strong. It does Start in his opening scenes it's got a lot of the Lovecraft words are dropping the The town is Arkham the several of the people introduced that are he calls out several people in the crowd which the names aren't always exactly Lovecraft but they're similar to Lovecraft characters names then fast forward to the next generations and he shows up and they go into the tavern called the Burning Man yeah what a great I'm opening one right now and they get no help from the people they don't particularly want his family back in town you know what's your type around here? And the as they're leaving somebody finally says your your places up here you need to go there they leave and they run across a young woman or young girl who has no eyes and deeply webbed fingers Oh does does fast forwarding 100 years put it into present day? Oh no. Okay, it's all very Gothic right? Okay Albacore that mean it it looks like 100 weeks later maybe three I think it's three or four generations they go from Victoria times to Victoria times yeah they're pretty bad chiastic Camry Joan typing their shit man. Right here now I feel weightless and bear Yeah, you should. The when he gets into the Caspian Sea starts to get overtaken shall we say by the previous owner Kerwin Joseph kirwin is the name of Vincent's ancestor you know the painting on the wall that's exactly him. The The atmosphere is so well done in this film. It's really just thick and deep. And Ward was the his wife's character name looks around the dark glorious. Just the look of the house and Lon Chaney Of course appears because Jesus scares the crap out of her. He is the caretaker of the place. There are some uncomfortable moments where when Kerwin has taken over Vincent's body and is making advances on Vincent's wife it's like huh, you're a different person. This just feels a little wrong but Oh, well. What you're gonna do yes, you guys will be guys. Luckily, nothing really toward happens he just sort of advances on her and she's like, Fuck off. But as the movie goes on, Kerwin takes over. Charles a lot more and is the battle for their souls begins as they go back and forth trying to figure out who is actually going to control them. Price price is pretty vile. In this Kerwin is one of his darker characters. He's usually kinda a wink and a smile villain. And this one he's just an asshole. And he is really dark he's trying to bring back his wife, which looks surprisingly like currently the Carolyn's at a type yeah go last 15 minutes or so at the movie is wonderful epic and the music is amazing and it is obviously a very famous piece because it stuck in my head for a long time afterwards and I couldn't I turn it other places and I couldn't place it but it's fantastic. We have a nice little moment here where and is down there with the doctor trying to figure out what's going on. And she comes across the Necronomicon Oh, as you do and the guy's like well maybe we should leave that alone she's like it's only a book and his reply is it is much more than a book The creature at the end the that you see is not great. Yeah, it sort of looks like is leftover from a Creature from the Black Lagoon. It's like it doesn't quite work so they do this weird way of shooting it that works it helps it a lot you really can't see what's going on. So then you've got to go watch the movie because this is good this is really solid entry one of Vincent's good films you know he did a lot of movies I remember really liking this but it's been so long that I just remember very little of it yeah yeah it's it's similar enough in tone and look to a whole lot of films that he was in that that's pretty easy to do. Right? I was like well, was that the pin the pendulum or was that from other movie? He did the trivia and notes we've got the tagline. Another all new masterpiece of terror from Edgar Allan Poe. Finally, Edgar Allan Poe's name is misspelled twice in the opening credits. Added correctly at the end. Unless you've done the Allan part, incorrectly. Yeah. Oh, man. Apparently the sets though as spectacular as they are, look were very small. And just the lighting and the shooting of it made everything look huge, especially the basement where they're doing the sacrifice just looks gigantic, but it wasn't. I feel like that era had like masterful lighting that was happening on a lot of films. Yeah, that's that's This is beautiful. I mentioned music earlier as raw Ronald Stein who did that. He also did music for the terror dementia 13. Frankenstein's great aunt Tilly? Great Aunt Tilly? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay, I had an aunt Tilly. Oh, chili Frankenstein. I know, I think it was Pfeffer. She was more of an all right then a great and she's just a so so. So it does say it's a Edgar Allan Poe movie. And this was entirely financial, because it was the third and what would be Roger Corman's, Edgar Allan Poe films. But it is actually an adaptation of HP Lovecraft case of Charles Dexter award. This is the first screen credit to HP Lovecraft wow in film, and is also the first reference to Necronomicon first time is shown on screen might have been referenced and has been referenced before but it's the first time you look into a book and the title is borrowed from a sixth stanza poem, by Poe is what 100 sure is. Published in 1939. Was but it was also used in the fall of the house of Usher. They use eight lines from the poem, and that's how it's gonna appear. Allan Poe movie? Wow. Wow. In the book lurker in the lobby, a guide to the setup of HP Lovecraft, written by john Sykes strike sick and Andrew migliori. Who's that? I think we've heard of Andrew will be drinking whiskey with him and fuchsia Exactly. What he wrote about this, the haunted palace is a seminal film for Lovecraft lovers. It is the first major motion picture to introduce Lovecraft and the Necronomicon and the, the wording at least of cosmic abominations Cthulhu and Yaga tuff to a general audience of love crafts obsession with the past is clearly presented in a heartfelt passage at the end of the film. So is his belief that mankind is a minor species adrift in a malevolent universe. The film strikes a good balance between narrative and action and Vincent Price as well. priceless. A go Andrew Yeah, far the supporting cast is solid in the art direction by Daniel Haller is really quite good for a fairly low budget film, which I say is like they did such a great job of making it look huge. Roger Corman did an admirable job as the first American feature film director to stakeout cinematic high ground for the cosmos crushing adaptations of HP Lovecraft to follow the nice they like it's actually the first book movie in the book oh oh because you know I saw that of course I have a copy are we in that one set down that the shorts because we're in one of their books unfortunately the film misquotes love craft in the some of the descriptions from about the Elder Gods and the dark ones, but what are you gonna do? Does it say Did they say Strange Aeons in there anywhere? Not that I heard yeah the the other the quote they have there is the Elder Gods the dark ones from beyond once held ruler of the world, but now are merely waiting for an opportunity to regain that control. It's not so much love craft but it's more Auguste arelis disciple of love craft who probably is the reason well though of love craft, but also is not a great human being. Right. That's a completed oh eight from 1963. There we go. 63 the only film teaming Vincent Price and Lon Chaney Jr. Other than I like that, I read that and go and then it says other than Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein. I forget that some prices in that. Yep. And the lead lady that Elvis proposed to Padgett retired from this after this film and became a born again Christian hosted her own show and interlude with Deborah Padgett and the on the Trinity Broadcasting Network in the early 90s, and also was involved in praise the Lord occasionally appearing on TBN as a guest. Oh my god, I hope they roll that footage out at every opportunity. We just found this piece of film that you were in. Let's show it for the audience. So I just yeah, I think I only have one question. So they they attributed the film to Edgar Allan Poe. Do they ever say in the credits HP love crush? Oh hit his first film credit. Yeah, I wasn't sure if it was a sneaky It was a credit but not a credit. Oh it's really it's all Poe everyone knows Poe Don't worry about the other guy nothing to do with people you don't know well another nice choice guys wow it's really good all of these are I think really good ways to crack in October as well. Oh absolutely. Oh yeah, definitely. Speaking of cracking and October Eric I think you've got to pick for the next movie. I believe I do. How about we do comedy horror. Okay, do a spontaneous Yes, that's right. Something for the fun of the October season to get you in the mood. Oh, I like I like that it doesn't have to be straight out comedy. Yeah, that doesn't have to be Tucker and Dale or right okay anything like that it can be something who's lends largely to the comedy concept as opposed to you know, well this one guy said a funny line. Yeah, cuz I always have that yeah, I think I don't really like comedy films for the most part so this is gonna be a fun challenge. I happen to love comedy films and I've already got one tucked away in my fresh skin No, nevermind i was gonna say nice but I don't want to anymore No. I hope you bleep that so my mom doesn't get angry and send me a text oh man that may have to be the post double down on that it's gonna be so bad okay this is the part where I say thank you to everyone who's participating in the value for value model who is liking and sharing posts is doing a reaching out and and suggesting things for us it's been you know just overwhelming the the response we get to all of this stuff I can't thank you enough. And then here we are Lovecraft Film Festival we'll be signing out now but back in one week back in the regular studios that are probably sound a little better than this. I hope so less refrigerator that's for sure. And people in hallway and cars outside and us holding our microphones and all the way it sounds you probably heard Yeah, at least they didn't fill up the ice like they did it what 530 in the morning, right? It just felt like they call you guys at 9am this morning? No, they called me to ask whether or not I wanted my room cleaned because they do limited service on the weekend. I'm not ready for the phone right now. I cannot live a hotel life All right, you guys we have completely derailed my sign out so like to take all the people that are taking part of them. Right? Guess what? Let me just be the first to say I will see you next week. back. Hi. Our show is recorded somewhere high above Naval Station Everett at the nexus of all realities and is engineered and produced by Eric Margaret. Our theme music is Strange Aeons part one by the band name shade is usually permission. Find Strange Aeons radio on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Wherever find podcasts. 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