151 WE BUILT THIS CITY!
Kelly really loves stating the obvious and Eric ends up loving Last Night in Soho - duh. Also discussed: Hellbound, Primal Rage, Gaia.Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/strangeaeonsr)
I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition such sigh to show you strange aeons. Welcome strange aeons radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That's finesse over there. Hello, I'm Kelly. Vanessa. I don't like the tone of that at all. Well, let me get into it this way. I'm, you know, starting to examine more myself on why I like something why I don't like something. And you realize, or I started realize, we just like what we like, sir. And I will make all sorts of excuses for it. Okay. So you Vanessa did not like what if? Correct? And I remember because Eric and I were like, You gotta love the animation. At least. You're like, I hate. Last week, you started talking about a show called arcane? Yeah. Which I watched. Part of. I hated it. Oh, no. But the animation is gorgeous. And looks just like what if. So, I realized, wait a second. She doesn't hate the animation. She just likes what she likes. And that's probably accurate. And I was telling Eric this. We had a little, a little text Exchange, or Hi, my bag, where I was telling him that I was giving. We'll have time a shot. And that I just, I just it wasn't working for me. And I got back a very passive aggressive. Of course, you don't like it? I like it, so you can't like it. And I was like, why is this relationship? Oh, stood at your wedding man. What happened? Yeah, and I realized, I have stopped liking sword and sorcery and fantasy stuff. That's yeah. And I love that animation and arcane. But the fantasy thing is just I'm like, I don't know why I can't get into I the first episode. How far did you one episode? Okay. I would maybe try one or two more, if you will. I mean, the one episode was kind of like, Yeah, this is really neat to look at. Have you seen any of it? Or? It is? What like the what if stuff. It's like, it's like, paintings, moving paintings. It's really gorgeous. Yeah, but it's such a fantasy type setting that I was like, I I just don't think I like this. You know, it's funny because I'm the same way like I actually typically don't like fantasy at all. It's like my Achilles heel like, I like horror and I like sci fi and fantasy. I'm like, oh great a dragon. I'm so wowed the minute majesty but the with Arcane, like, I think that the storytelling for the characters was what brought me in. And I liked that sort of Fallout, like, a future world where a lot of things suck. Really bad sense. And there were some twists and turns that were so unexpected for me that they just completely blew me away. And I was like, Man, the writing for this is nuts. So that was sort of what kept me in there. More so than the magic I don't give a singular crap about but yeah, I think you're right like it. I was actually thinking this the other day. I was like, I think is does it look like what if? No, that can't be right. There's no I remember what I've had some that frustrated me are really predisposed to not like what if, yeah, so you didn't, you didn't like the animation or anything. And that's I just, it was just one of those things I was mulling around is like, we just kind of like what we like yeah, it was probably in the context of having properties I already knew thrown into an animation style that was I don't know there's just something about it. That didn't quite gel for me. And that's, that's okay. Like you said, I mean, for some reason, there's something about arcane that really like hit me in a way that I'm not used to being blown away and I had such low expectations because I'm not a fan of League of Legends and everyone I know who's a fan of League of Legends is obsessed. So I was like, I don't know about this because there's gonna be like a look at the jiggly character that's my favorite with I got to plan kill my friends with and like, that wasn't what it was. And that really blew me away. But now I think, I don't know they've got a bunch. I'm probably just mixing it in my head with Pokemon too. Oh, man, it well. I would say that was not so much passive aggressive that was sort of aggressive. My reply to you time. It's just you know, after a month of non stop doing shit, have you heard right now he's gonna find new one to attack me with for the next couple of months you know what you brought doing? So, Oscar Isaac so I will say that I did see something that kind of blew me away, called Primal Rage. The Legend of conda Oh, you guys familiar with this movie is only a couple years old. No Primal Rage. It's on. Prime. And it is basically a Bigfoot movie. But it's a fucking great Bigfoot movie. And the acting is really good. Looks like it was shot in Pacific Northwest. He hung around for all the credits to see where it was shot and it was shot in a bunch of places in like Oregon, California. But this Bigfoot is pretty fucking terrifying because it's smart. And it uses and makes its own weapons and stuff. So it's got like, Ah, it's got like an axe that it's hanging on its way. So all this. I just really enjoyed it. There is I will just put out there for everybody who's got, you know, weird trigger stuff. There is an uncomfortable Bigfoot rape in this movie. And then he is doing it or he is having it done to him. Well, what do you think? Do you I don't know. Bigfoot, but yeah, they could tie him up. I mean, that's a lot of people's fantasy, right? God, probably comfortable with the fact that you said it's a lot of people's and then Eric was like, you're probably right. He's looking up in kind of coyly. Have you ever. I don't know who's talking about it. But you look up, like dinosaur sex on Amazon and all these weird as books that yeah, there is. There is I'm sure. Oh, man. Definitely big but with a writer who writes like, it's not quite free porn, but it's not crazy for not making a living with it. So yeah, yeah. Yeah. Kelly. The Buddhist guy. I do see writing something down over there. So porn, let me just wow, that sounds insane. Out tops. Now when I think of like Bigfoot movies, I think of like, sci fi original film level. Is this asylum quality content? Or is this like, Oh, this is way better than that. The acting is really good. I didn't recognize anybody in it. There's, it's, it's just this area that native. The Native Americans seem to know that this creature is kind of out there in the woods. And they are like, Hey, you don't fuck with that thing. And these two people get lost in the woods. And then one of them escapes. He's got to go back and enlist enlisted this, you know, kind of shaman type characters telling him what they're up against. And I was like, I was I mean, through the whole movie. I was just like, this is way better than I thought it was gonna be based on the name. Primal Rage, the legend of Congo. Oh, well, speaking of local ish, films, I watched pig. Oh, I'm very curious about this. Oh, me. Yeah, I don't know. It was not what I personally expected it to be because a lot of people had said John Wick, and I was like, Yeah, okay, that sounds interesting, like John Wick like, you know, angry that your pig got taken out for revenge, which it is. But imagine that set in Portland, with all the trappings of Portland like hipster Portland. It is a John Wick a pacifist John Wick set in hipster Portland, where he is a renowned chef who has disappeared off the map. And somebody grabs his bag, and now he has to re emerge on the map to try to find it. So you're not the first person to tell me it wasn't what you expected. And I would say that is solely the trailers fault, because they sell you the idea that it's John Wick. Yeah, completely. I mean, he, I think the Characters are really interesting. I think that the film is, it was, I mean, it was good, but it was also like, okay, just let me give you like one teeny tiny tidbit. that'll that'll hopefully enlighten you a little bit. So like I said, he's a renowned chef. He gets to Portland. He's trying to get information about the pig. So he goes to a secret underground city, sort of space like in you know how we have underground Seattle. It's like underground Portland, where you can go and put your name on a board and get beat up by people. People and since he's this big shot, Chef, all these other chefs show up because it's kind of a chef fighting ring and punch him in the face because like, there's so over his previous famous chef shit. It's like Portland, Portland, Portland. It's like everyone's Portlands. Um, is there something special about this pig other than his attachment to it? No, I'm okay. I'm sorry. Yes, it is a truffle hunting pig. So truffles are worth a great amount of value in the cooking community. And they go for a lot of money. And so getting this pig can either make or break somebody else's livelihood. Okay, I saw this a streaming now so yeah. Final, your strange tomato rating on this is a god positive. It's a positive it is a positive. I just don't know if I want to recommend it to you guys. Like the weird part is the the little bit I read about it. Yeah, talked about it being almost more a study of grief and loss than any kind of a crazy action movie, I would say it is. It is a lot about loss. Like there's something to be said. That's the good part about it is there's a lot in there about people not being able to deal with the things they've lost in their lives. And that is a really powerful, there are multiple powerful moments based around that. But the actual trappings of being like, Oh, yes, and this lady makes the perfect bread. Like, and then this person has his like, fancy sports card because he's cool in Portland and he I mean, like, there's just so much around it. Yeah, there's so much fucking hipster. It's crazy. And I didn't expect that. But it but it is interesting. It's an interesting film. Do we get a Nick Cage free counseling? It's actually a really good performance by Nic Cage because it's so quiet. On his end. He hardly says anything through the whole film. But you can see it all across his face. So he does an excellent job. All right, that'll work right up there with one where he has to kill all the Chucky Cheese like care. doesn't say a word. I still gotta say that though. Not great, but it is entertaining. Speaking of controversial opinions if between us films I watched last night in Soho. Oh my god, tiebreaker. fucking fantastic. Not only did I think it was Oh, it's good. It's fucking great. Holy shit. Really? I thought you wouldn't like oh my god. Well, okay. He liked it. He would like it cuz you like good movie, sir. Oh, my God. Look, I like some bad movies. I admit this, but. And we don't. It was such a shock as I was watching it, because it was dragging me out of the film going. Why didn't and that's great. I guess I need to rewatch it. I guess like Edgar Rice taken all the shit he's learned from all of his films. And it there you go. Like I okay. I don't know how you guys liked it as much as you liked it. Like there. There's so much of it. I loved it. I think he said Yeah. I don't know. Okay. When I was talking about you know, not wanting to read on letterbox earlier before we started recording but and you know not what do you see? This is the one I didn't want to probably gonna end up at like four and a half or five stars on Oh my god. Mine would have been like a solid. Three, maybe two and a half. Wow. liked it enough to sit through it. I mean, there was you know that maybe the the theater wasn't the best. And like, there were like watching. Well, that's what I mean. It's like, when I watched it at home, I was like, I wish I had gone to the theater for this. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Like the colors the way we booked and? Well, I see which one I want to talk about. I saw a new movie that I didn't love. And are you looking at me and I saw an old movie that I left way too much. I'll talk about the old movie. I saw this movie called link li NK Oh, no, this one. And it is directed by Richard Franklin directed both games. Oh, no. Is it real games? Yeah, real games and then talked about a couple of his movies on this where it says it's like 86 It's got Terence Stamp and Elizabeth Shue and it is a killer monkey movie. Yeah. Oh, cool. And she she goes to be an assistant for this guy who's got a couple of chimpanzees at his place. And he's doing all these studies on and link is the main chimpanzee who dresses in a in a tuxedo. Oh, and then starts killing everybody. First of all, Terence Stamp in 86 with his crazy hair at everything. I was like, God, this guy should have been so much bigger. But also just the balls to dye the hair of an A Ranga Tang and call him a chimpanzee. Because he was a little bigger looking than a regular chimpanzee. I was like, Wow, you really content to the audience. And I was like, they'll never notice. Nobody knows what these things really look like. Right. I really enjoyed it. It is very Hitchcockian. But well, Sims and yes, I mean, yeah, because an Elizabeth shoe also never got as big as she should have. This is right after karate kid. She is so beautiful. And she carries this movie because Terence Stamp leaves pretty quick. And it's just her acting against, you know, a chimpanzee and orangutan. Yeah. And she's fucking great. Nice. Are we seeing like Richard Franklin becoming our new Walter Hill here, we're gonna start seeing a bunch of his shit and being surprised at what you like. Yeah, probably because he also did psycho too, which I think Oh, fantastic. Well, not nearly as interesting as a monkey in a suit. But I turned out to have a series. I think it was on Netflix. Have you either? Have you seen hell bound? I saw the first episode. Fuck, fuck. So I saw Season One of hellbound it's, it's a show where there's a I'm trying to remember I think it's in Korea. And a one day a being two beings emerge from a portal and drag a go into a cafe. Grab a dude and start like throwing him around until he's a big bloody mess and then like beating on him, then open the portal and drag him away. And the idea is that people are starting to get these messages from supposedly an angel telling them they are going to hell in X number of days. And hell is literally coming to drag them in. And so there are all these people that start to become obsessed with this and it does that fun thing of a couple episodes and being like many years later, and like the whole world has built these statues around it. There's a religion formed around this thing and no one's actually sure what it really really is though. Nobody seems to have asked a lot of questions but it's really graphic really terrifying. It reminds me a lot of Attack on Titan the comics series, but like I don't know, I don't know what to say they go into this cafe they bust into this week. They're like, the whole Have you seen any of this, Eric? Oh, no strings are they all look like the whole they're hugely muscular. You can't Dentyne like a guy goes up and shoots one on the face at one point and nothing does not like there's nothing you can do to stop these guys. Like they will come and they will get you and you're not going to like get dragged to hell like gently they are going to throw you against a punch you a bunch break probably every bone in your body then dragging Oh, it's not gonna be catered chauffeured. So I didn't finish any of it because I thought the effects looked pretty cheap. Yeah, I don't I yeah, I wasn't in love with the effects or the monster kind of you almost see like the lines drawn around it. But at the same time, the concept really pulled me in and I was so curious where they were going with it. And it's really strong. It's really strong Stoli, like you were saying the religion was built around it, but nobody really knows what it is. Do we know what it is? By the end of the series? No, but we have a few more questions that are helpful. Okay. Yeah. So we we know more about what's happening, but we don't know what the answer is. So we're looking at season two, then. Yes, absolutely. We're looking at season two. I think it's based off of a web comic. So it's an ongoing series. That's been that's been existence for a while now. Oh, yeah. Find the source where you can? I won't say it's a Happy Show. So thank you for Happy Show. This is not okay, well, why should another movie and my quest to 2021 up for the end of the year? Oh, sure. Gaya that's pretty Oh, have you guys seen this one? I have part of it. Yeah, it took me like three days to watch the entire I got to a point. Well, this is fine. It's not bad, right. But it's also not that good. It's really not exciting. No, no. It's I got like, certain amount through and then I can't watch the rest tomorrow and I didn't quite make it. But by that point, I'm like, Okay, I got to stop but I gotta come back and finish it because there's like 20 minutes left and let's write out what happened. And it's, it's good. It's neat. It's just got clever enough it is. I wish more was done with it with the fungus stuff. This is interesting. That no is what I was gonna say. It's a great concept and not not a great execution. Yeah, it's just, you know, three people in a cabin. One in a what should be more of a horrifying situation, but she doesn't really seem to mind she rolls with it surprisingly well. It's just like, okay, cool. What are you guys doing? Great. This is one of the more frustrating kinds of movies Yeah, it's fun to talk about a movie that's just so bad to tear it apart or so bad. It's good or a great movie. This is kind of like, Yep, I watched a movie. I sat through 90 ish minutes of a thing. And here we are not going to make your best of 21 list now. Okay, just say you watched a little bit of it and just I watched about half of it. This is a this is a slow dry film. Usually you get like that last 10 minutes in a movie and a slow dry film pays off. Well now this is just me just going all the way to the credits. Okay. Well, how about we take a little break you guys and then when we come back? We built this city on rock and roll spaceships though ship our shirts. Yeah, I missed I missed your cue, right? Oh, well, we'll be right in LEGO City, the space center is always busy. You Lego City space shuttle is ready to deploy the satellite you can build the rocket placed the astronaut and blast off into space to make the repair. The new space collection from LEGO City except sold separately we have returned Vanessa starships I don't know what your favorite starship song is. Oh, do you know I only know one certainly no one might think which is the one you were saying. So Jane is the right answer. Remember the Sanjay if I heard it. I bet I will. Yeah. Put Jane in their commercial segment there. Oh my god, we get thrown off. Yeah, as you're saying. I like starships like Star Trek starships. I have a bunch of them. Well, why don't you tell us what you chose for this? Well the starship movie that I chose was not Star Trek but it was the 2009 film Pandora them. Really no sir payment or anyone respond our wives on board has been through here you just pick up things up there. You can see me You're stronger than you know. Come after you run. You run what's happened to us? Where we come in? Oh my god. My wife can find for those animals to consume and help with becoming some of it is what happened to the passenger How do you think you would react if you knew the truth? Did either of you guys check this thing out? Yeah, I saw it when it came out and I don't remember much about it. It's like space insanity, right? Oh, yes. Okay. I think I liked it. Yeah, um, I was watching in the hallway through are kept feeling like, Did I see this movie? I'm pretty sure I did but I'm not 100% Sure I'm like this is it anyway, so Pandora Rotten Tomatoes score of 30% from critics lie 49% from audience budget of $33 million. box office of $20.6 million. Oh, no real bummer. real bummer. This movie directed by German director Christian Albert. He's done 17 projects, mostly German stuff, and currently is working on a German TV series called Slow slow burn, slow burn. Low burn. There's, there's like a weird thing happening with oh, it's not NUMA some I'm a little lost. The writer, Travis Miller has done seven projects, including mostly stuff I've never heard of infinity Chamber Street gun, and he's done some producing work as well. And the story is also based off of something by Chris Christian, Albert. So a lot of lot of very heavy handed stuff going on with the director here. Starring a couple of a couple of people we recognize Ben Foster as Corporal Bower he's been in 60 things mostly scumbags or drug addict parts. And we would remember him here on strange aeons radio as being the weirdo who shows up in the town in 30 days of nine. Oh, okay. Yeah, he also he started off in the flashforward TV series, which he was in 26 episodes in, he landed a role and get over it, and then has since done 22 episodes of Six Feet Under Leave No Trace hell or high water. So he's been around you will definitely recognize them a few song also starring Dennis Quaid as Lieutenant Payton 107 projects including my favorite day after tomorrow, but also a dog's journey, and also A Dog's Purpose, and also Spongebob Squarepants as grandpa red beard is also in battle for Terra Dragonheart Jaws 3d and his first film is crazy mama, where he played the uncredited role of bellhop? I forgot about jazz 3d. I did not know any of this. I was like Dennis Quaid, sir. He and Leah Thompson hooked up then after that after she's in that I think I don't know if they were married or what just like together. Oh, wow. That's, that's a good look. A couple. Yeah. So back then. Yeah. Oh my god. That's incredible. We also have an Shay. True trial. As Nadia, she's been in 45 things. She's also from Germany starting to see a German pattern here. The only thing you would recognize her in his Man of Steel as a fe aura. Ooh, Fiora UI whatever that is. We have Chun come. See you Angie Coonley. As mon he's been in 24 things including Tekken Grandmaster and man with Iron Fist. He's an MMA fighter with a martial arts background. And last but not least, Norman Ritas is in this briefly as a dude named Shepard who last for maybe five minutes but an ad for things including Darryl and walking dead. The story of this so it's really interesting because they start with a big old this is where we are they give you like a lot of info right up top. Which I don't think they need to I think they could have like, you know, surprised us with some of us. But that's okay. We're on a ship named Elysium. It's launched from Earth as Earth last hope it's meant to make its way to a newly discovered inhabitable planet called Tanis that ship carries 60,000 people and those people are put into hypersleep it will take 123 years to land where they are going. Oh my this is just like a like a crawl title page or something? Yeah, it's like a bunch of yachts a bunch of like text that shows up but there's also a little bit of a reenactment where they are showing like the the bridge with like Earth, sending a message to Elysium saying you are lost hope good luck and good nights. It's like really? And then real. I'm like why is this important event I mean it kind of comes back later kind of but not really like they really didn't need to do it but that's okay. We wake up see this is the real start. Dude wakes up on ship naked and covered in goo. He starts peeling goo and in this race, right? He peels all this like old dead skin off of himself. He immediately pukes and they start stumbling around in his underwear as you. He discovers his name is Bauer has no idea who he is where he is and what is going on. The power is fluctuating on and off, and several other crew member pods seem to be empty. He does however, discover a pod for dude named Lieutenant Payton and sort of banging on it in an attempt to wake him up is our Quaid character. Peyton does wake eventually through some ship issues happening, and is trying to they're trying to work together to figure out what's going on. And slowly their memories are coming back to them. So when you're put into hypersleep, in this universe, you have this weird disorientation when you come out where it can take up to a week for you to remember what's happening. Because your brain is just that's just a side effect. So so what we do seem to figure out though, is that Bower has knowledge of the ship's nuclear reactor and power core. He discovers he is the ship's head mechanical engineer, and should be real. So Peyton is the de facto captain of the ship at this point insists that they must get the ship back online or else everyone is going to die in Earth's last hope will be over. Bower climbs into the air ducts, to try and figure out how to get out of the room because the power has, has locked them in the little space. So they need to get other. And he immediately falls through the air ducts into a sort of a hallway. And he sees this girl down the hall who's sort of dressed like Mad Max style. And she's running around and he's like, Hey, yo, and starts like running after her because everyone's supposed to be asleep. Down the corridor, he finds a dead man, another crew member hanging from the ceiling. And there's also a strange sound coming from down the hallway, he now discovers that there is a weird humanoid creature that seems sort of like a mutant. It's not quite a zombie, not quite a vampire. It's really pale really like intense looking. He reminded me a lot of the ghouls from the Fallout games, and it starts chasing him and they are fast, and they're brutal. But instead it grabs the body that's hanging, like a nice little, almost not trap, but sort of like something to distract it and starts to eat it so that we're then runs into Norman Ritas, who starts to tell him what's going on with the ship. It has been overrun with these cannibal creatures. He doesn't explain like, where they're from or why they got there or what they're doing there. But they are there in mass. They seem to be snacking on the passengers and anyone who's been taking their turns crewing the ships over this long haul flight. And that's actually been going on for some time. In fact, it's been going on long enough, there are factions of different people on the ship. There's yeah, there's like the people who are more of like the hunters. There's there's one guy who doesn't speak any English. He was like a gardener. And he shows up and he's like a well renowned warrior. And he helps Bower get around the ship. Norman Ritas is then stabbed Of course, and eaten by the creatures. So Bower remembers he has a wife and becomes obsessed with trying to find her. And of course, throughout the film, we start to learn more and more about this woman that he's seeking. He as he makes his way through the ship, he is joined along the way with the the former man and woman who had run away from him initially, Nadia, who is really secretive about herself and what's going on, she's they're both clearly in survival mode and have been doing so for probably, you know, like a decade, both mon and Nadia are incredible fighters, they managed to keep the cannibals off their back. But they're less likely when they run into the old ship, cook Leland, which has a pretty cool scene. So you're not meeting a ton of living crew members. There's a lot of dead bodies throughout this film. But this this cook is like frickin nuts. He's like, drawn all this stuff in his little like, part of the ship that he's walled off, and he's like feeding them stuff, but he's feeding them like engine oil. And of course, yeah, he's like, made this up specials real good. Like what is happening? And of course, it turns out that he is trying to eat them, as well. He's also trying to cannibalism because basically, it seems like nobody knows how to figure out how to work the food system on the ship, I guess. So. Yeah. So basically, they're trying to make their way into the center of the ship to get that nuclear reactor going but meanwhile, on Peyton's part of the ship, so the captain is stuck still in this room. He's trying to help Bauer through like a calm system. Tell him where to go on the ship. And another crew member falls into his area. It's this really like young handsome dude named Gallo. But Gallo seems deeply insane and is constantly telling Peyton to give up on Bower and to evacuate the ship. Gallo seems to know a lot, but isn't saying much and everything is a little weird around the edges with him, you keep waiting for him to just straight up, like stop Payton. Throughout the film, there is this constant discussion of Pandora, which is what you alluded to earlier, Kelly, which is something that happens in space travel, that causes a psychosis and violent behavior, usually murder. Pandora is responsible for previous flights, where the captain released all of the passengers into space and destroyed an entire earlier mission with 1000s of people just off they go. You see them screaming in their pauses. They're like watching themselves go into nothingness. Bauer seems to be suffering from this, he spends a lot of the film kind of trying to fight hallucinations and keeps himself together. So throughout the film, you're getting this really neat thing where you're not really sure quite what's real. And who has pinned to arm and who doesn't. So that's that's pretty fun. This This film is truly fucking crazy. I can see why this was not a success when it came out. It is weird. It's it's got a lot of those, I don't know, early 2000s tropes of like fast paced cutting and like, everything's really dark. And there's some like crazy beat music going underneath. But I think in retrospect, it's actually a pretty decent film. The the twist it takes near the end. I'm not going to give it away, but it is pretty freaking nuts. So are you championing a Halloween three style resurgence for this film? Ah, not that not that big. I think it's I don't think you I don't think we should say it sucks. Because I don't think it sucks. But I wouldn't say it's like incredible. I wouldn't say it's like a gem. But if you're into sci fi, it is definitely enjoyable. A little bit of trivia about this. The tagline for this movie is don't fear the end of the world. Fear what happens next? And this was meant to be the first film in a trilogy. Yeah, okay. Which is weird because of Yeah. It's strange that that would be the case. The film began life as a preliminary script written by Travis Mila Malloy in late 90s. The story was, it feels like it. The story was originally set on a prison ship named Pandora, um, transporting 1000s of Earth deadliest prisoners to another planet. The cannibal hunters were the end result of the prison prisoners degeneration. The characters played by anti Tru and Chung lay were inmates. Then Foster's character was supposed to be a non prisoner who did not trust anyone. Believing no studio would want to make the film Milloy thoughts about making it a as a low budget film shot in an abandoned paper mill. With own unknown actors. However, it attracted the attention of filmmaker Paul WS Anderson, and Jeremy bolts, and they gave it to impact pictures who greenlit it? The producers gave the script to Director, German dude, who was struck by the similarities to his own screenplay, titled nowhere. So he basically smushed the two together and put it out. It was originally meant to be shot for $20,000. Ben, I know, Ben Foster insisted in the film on eating actual live insects. There's a scene where he is offered an insect that he has food, instead of using special effects or dead ones. He went ahead and went for the real thing. And what kind of identity consumed you remember giant cricket? Oh, yeah, yeah, there's like it's, it's a pretty big dude, the food of the future. There you go. It's no wiggling occupy. There is a Facebook group of cult followers of this film and both the director and writer have joined to show their support for a potential SQL, guys, it's not going to happen. Let fetch go. The Pandora disorders supposedly referring to orbital dysfunctional syndrome, I guess is a real thing. There's a child mutant in it that's played by the director's daughter. It was shot in Germany in in about abandoned power plant in Berlin. It looked the setting looks freakin rad. It's a crazy space. And there is an Australian rock band calling themselves Pandora after seeing the film, final thought. Did you like it? You know, it wasn't a waste of time. So I guess I liked it. I mean, like I wouldn't, I don't think I need to watch it again. But like I'm glad I saw it because I think it does some really interesting sci fi stuff. But I'm a huge sci fi nerd and I have patience for things other people aren't gonna have patience for. So you I mean, you mentioned all of this and none of it sounds familiar to me. I know I've seen this. Do you think that without the opening crawl and just dropping us in? Wouldn't that have been a little cooler the cooler way fucking cooler. I mean, it would have been so slick if we just woke up as a like naked dude, with skin that he has to rip, like pull off of himself. And I mean, that looks so fucking cool. And like he's pulling tubes out, and you're just like, what is happening right now. And if we just followed that storyline without any information as to what this ship is, why he's there, and him slowly getting memories back across the whole thing. That would have been so neat to figure out what that mission is with him. I'm already more intrigued by that concept. And yeah, the film as it is, uh, we, uh, we finding out that like, there's been generations of people who have already I mean, he's waking up now but people have woke up hundreds of years back there's that is the question. And seems like Yeah, I mean, the the mutants like they never tell you they have to be there they're humanoid that's for sure. My theory because they never tell you my theory is that maybe the mutants were people who got exposed to radiation on the ship or the the nuclear you know, there is a nest of them sleeping literally underneath the engine of the ship the nuclear powered engine of the ship so like my theory is that that they've been altered in their DNA through that but at the same time, you know, the food supply I don't know 60,000 humans to stack off of I don't know how many generations you can get through off of that. If you breed them you know, and they I you know what, they do eat each other too. So that that could be I feel like I need to give this another try. I would you know what, it didn't suck it was a fun it was a fun popcorn film. All right. Yeah. Well I dive in with mine because it's more crazy more crazy in a very very different way though. Talking about 2001 The American astronaut I owe the case that could have campaigns are real by. So take the girl to Jupiter trader for the boy bring the boy to Venus trade them for Johnny are bringing Johnny are back terrorists and I get rich that's an interview seen or heard of this one? This is so familiar. It's Mary birdie obscure. It's pretty bizarre Billy Bob Thornton now, but it could the Rotten Tomatoes ratings we've got 63 from the critics 89 from the audience. Oh. The budget no idea. Couldn't find anything. Just everybody constantly referencing boy. This is a low budget movie. Oh, which it is? box office. I'm assuming this is a festival thing. $38,000 Directed by Cory McCabe who also directed crazy and thief Sting Ray, Sam. Deep Astronomy and the romantic sciences. And the ketchup and mustard man. All household standards, right. ketchup and mustard man. I really want to see just the poster. But there you go. They're written by him and stars him. He did start a couple of the things though. Hallelujah. Gorilla revival playing. Sometimes I shave with French dressing. There's a lot of condiment related things going on? Yeah, he's a interesting guy. Australian Roco Sisto who is in Donnie Brasco after hours. One of the most underrated Martin Scorsese films. Evil the TV show yeah and innocent blood We've seen this guy before whether we know it or not. And Gregory Russell Cook who was in just tons of TV and and any golden who's had hair and 12 monkeys. Well, this movie is weird. It starts off it's black and white shot in black and white in 2001, which I have think is a budgetary choice. Well, I got it signed in 2001 or that it was black and white to avoid having to worry about making things look. Oh, always interesting. It starts off with like a class about space. Like there's this planet this planet we discovered these asteroids are called something else from asteroid belt. And on this one was the perfect place to put a bar. That's pretty cool. Okay, well, now I'm more intrigued. Yeah, spaceship is I'm pretty sure a still photo moved across. And crashes on the ground sort of the way it lands is not pretty. And as a guy there's a scene in this that's really oddly hard to watch where the guy gets up after traveling from Earth, I'm assuming and dry shaves himself with just like those crappy blue Bic razors. Oh. That's really hurts. Not recommended. He's traveling with a large cat. Not a tiger but a big house cat. He's going into the bar taking the cat with him in this little container. And apparently he's a a finance movie goes on. He's a mover of unique items. So he's bringing this cat to this bar. Hmm. Some good humor in the movie. It's real, dry, British kind of humor. Just straight and simple. It's just so weird. Anyway, so he gives he goes into the bartender and said, I've got the cat. Like I've got the cat. Yeah, what I need. Yeah, go what you need. So they go in the backroom to meet and the guy hands him a box, like a large suitcase or a large briefcase kind of thing. And says is this what I want? Yeah, open it up. Look inside. Looks inside. That's right. It's a real live girl. Like it's a What? Is hopping a cat for a girl? Yep. Okay. A girl that's in a probably what looks like a typewriter case. You remember those old printer cases about that big? Like, do you get to see the real life girl? Oh, okay. But the light shows up. It's sort of like Pulp Fiction esque kind of thing where the light shines out. And the guy's like, Oh, great. Now I can take this and take it to the person I need to take it to. But before that he has to go to the bathroom. The pilot needs to take a bathroom break. And some guy sends two people in like he's in trouble I could beat up or something. This is where you realize this is also a musical way and these two guys come in and sing this wonderfully stupid fun. We're here to get you kind of song while the guys in the stall. But the whole thing actually amounts to they just take an Instamatic camera and take a photo of him and then run away. So the song is weird fine is pretty good on my car. Okay, this looks this is encouraging. I'm liking this. No idea what the I still don't know what the photograph was for. You just brought it out gave it to a guy who turns out to be like his his buddy. These two frat guys are friends of a guy who's the pilots, buddy. And this night at the bar is dance contest night. Oh my god. Apparently the director writer star is in a band as well. I don't remember the name it's in my notes but so his band performs with a different singer. And the guy gets up in dances this really bad one of the guys in the bar gets up at dances is really weird kind of karate move dance or he's jumping around and just doing weird shit. And then him in the pilot and his buddy getting this macho man walk to go up to the front of the bar and dance in this funny little choreographed number. Of course they win give these giant trophy your expression is perfect for this movie. My brain is like melting. So now he's got to take now these done, you know, partying down, getting winning his trophies got to take his cat to Jupiter. Now at this point, we learned that Jupiter is entirely men, and Venus is entirely women. And on Venus, the women in order to not mutate and be able to reproduce, require a new boy 16 to join them, and then he stays with them until he dies. And then they replace him with a new guy. So that's What he's doing is he's taking this woman in the typewriter box to Jupiter to explain to change him for a boy that he can take. Yep. What does Jupiter look like? Jupiter is a gas giant, right? Is it? Are they acting like it's a planet? You can stand on it? Yeah. Yep. Let's say these guys need to study a little more astronomy Is it meant to be like funny that she's in a tight like, is she a woman or a baby? Like not sure. Okay. Is it like meant to be sort of like it's bigger on the inside, sort of when he does the exchange with the guy so he he doesn't go there with the guy who runs Jupiter knowing why he's there. So he comes there with a woman in a box that, Hey, open up liquid, it is a woman. Now if you keep her, feed her train her nice, she'll grow up to be a full woman. Oh my god. So apparently, it's like sea monkey kind of thing. They all reveal our secrets. All right, the boy he's picking up on Jupiter is famous on Jupiter and his beloved. So that's why it's a tough sell to get this guy to train him because he is. And this is the actual character's name, the boy who actually saw a woman's breast. So you go to Jupiter, and his Jupiter looks like the Apple commercial for 1984 as a bunch of sad looking guys look like they've been working in the coal mine all day. And then they introduce the boy who has actually seen a woman's breast to come out, do a little song and dance. And then it ends with him going. It was round and soft. Go back to work. Wow. So yeah, then confirm. So again, another good. Another good song. Now why all this is going on. Some other guy is back at the bar, killing everyone there. Because he's hunting the pilot, for some reason comes out that he searches for the pilot. Whenever it's his birthday. The pilots for his birthday the hunters birthday and kills anybody, he has no reason to kill. Did David Lynch make this movie oh man he could have. So then they take him to the rally pick up another guy. I'll let it kind of just fade off here. Because if you're interested, or what I've said, so far, you'll probably want to see this film. And there's no real reason to describe, but Athens for the rest because it just continues to be weird. I kind of want to see this film. How did you watch it? It's just a rental rental on I don't want to double check the problem with the film. And I'm about to the point where he goes to get the kid off of Jupiter. I'm like, How is this not in every midnight movie around the country someplace every night but and then it just re it hits this low and just damn it. If you would have done maybe two or three more songs than that 2030 minutes. I think you would have had a Rocky Horror almost level. Wow. Crazy because it is really weird and really fun. And has great quirky weird characters like his alarm clock, the pilots alarm clock is what did your father teach you? What did your father teach you? And it keeps saying that he stands up and says something like, you always want to make sure you eat the cantaloupe or some line like that. And then we learned you are now awake. So it's got a lot of fun. And it's a lot of humor. So about halfway through Him God damn, I'm losing this. This film's losing me bomber. But does it get you back though on the third act, the end is again, when he gets to Venus. It gets really weird and fun again, my first note on the movie is pacings really strange. It's really well first and slugs in the middle and then kind of it waves. It's kind of like Oh, wow. Oh, it's it's very, very strangely placed. If you're familiar with these bands, this is sort of how the film felt to me. It was like watching a movie created by the dead milkman and the cramps. You familiar with either of those bands with us now and I didn't know you were talking about bands for the first half of that sentence was like, what is it? Why are you dead? Doing here? Okay. So it's it's like that and the music's reminiscent of that kind of band. That's kind of fun. Yeah. I've got like three notes in here about how I can't believe this isn't huge. Oh, now I know why it's not the dancing I was talking about where the guy was doing karate moves and Austria stuff. The director stood off camera and just yelled at the guy. Like don't karate move, dip down, rotate around and the guy just danced or whatever he was yelling to him. So that worked out quite well. All the costumes for the women when you get to Venus, which look pretty good, but this goes back to the black and white were made a shower curtains. Oh my gosh, but and if I hadn't read that I would not have known. So they're really well done. DVD commentary is very weird, or very unique version. He basically just recorded a q&a q&a at the Brooklyn pool hall of him and a bunch of people that watch the movie. I like it. That's initiative. Yeah, that's right. And a lot less prepared. Just go the Karima cave the writer director is a songwriter and lead singer the band the bill Nyer show. They and they were together until 2011. He wrote directed compose the songs and also helped paint the backdrops. So it is it is a film by his personal preoccupation to the project and what he names as his inspirations, space operas psychobilly Monty Python, German expressionism cowboy movies Lewis Carroll film noir, plus b Berkeley the wide eyed innocence of childhood Ed Wood and data ism, which is a form of Alan garde art right. Wow. Like rubbish that covers it. It's Entertainment Weekly described it imagine a Laurel and Hardy script directed by Salvador Dali. Oh, my God. What? What you again? 2001 2001 weird. I feel like I gotta see this is it's I even though the walls I was telling you about i Absolutely. Thrilled I watched it. I mean, was this just something in the research because we were doing starships? You ended up? Yep, I looked. Well, what I did. Is i The problem with looking up spaceship movies. Mm hmm. A huge chunk of them are these giant big budget that we've all seen and heard of. So I went low budget, spaceship and dove into that. And I've read this one, and I did read that okay. It was going to be a musical. As I Okay, I just gotta check this out. See what else going on. It's either going to be an absolute cluster and I'll turn off after 10 minutes and find something else or find out what it was which is a uneven but well worth watching. Kinda weird film. I'm putting it on the list. That sounds crazy. I will say that first setup that you start to describe sounds like a plot point in Star Trek Discovery. With the bar the the character the the guy who has the big cat. Oh, trading stuff. I wonder if somebody saw this movie. I don't know. I mean, I haven't seen him sing yet. But that doesn't mean he can't. Alrighty, my turn. Yes. Jane, you're playing a game. You never can we can go that's that's the best starship. Oh, okay. Okay, Okay, gotcha. I chose from 1982 Forbidden world. Troubleshooter summoned to the forbidden world held in an icy grip of fear by a weird biological mutation. Partner alien Park imparts human light layer on a priority high security research actually, scientists dream what is it? You're trying to call. You figure it out. I'm not going back in there. You should try to communicate with it. I know it's far fetched but it might work. Also known as mutant Oh, not Forbidden Planet, not the classic movie 60 moment is like was there my first thought was there a sequel The Forbidden Planet I'd never heard of. I would guess since this is produced by Roger Corman that he was hoping this was a sequel to another film. Ah ha 1982 budget of under $1 million box office have around $4 million Rotten Tomatoes critics have it at 60% and the audience has it at 31%. And I feel like that's pretty fair. Directed by Alan Holtzman, who directed grunt, exclamation point, the rest of them and program to kill and this classy title Jon Benet messages from the grave office. Run by Tim Kernan, who wrote Ghost Warrior, and then a video game called supreme warrior. This would have been the 80s early 80s. So who knows? Starring Jesse event who has 70 credits including earthquake Silent Running and Little Big Man. Don Dunlap, who was inliers moon night shift and barbarian Queen Jun Chadwick, who was in the TV series v. Jumping Jack Flash the evil below. But pros, most probably known as the Yoko like wife of David St. hubbins. and This Is Spinal Tap. Ah, sure. Also stars Linden Chiles 152 credits, including at least one episode episode of every single TV series in the 60s 70s 80s 90s. I mean, this credit list was insane. Name a TV show. greats Marc mero. Yes. He did one episode of greatest American heroes, night writer, you know, it just was literally different strokes. Oh my gosh. Okay, have either you guys seen this then? No, it was called mutant which is a much closer title to what's actually going on in this? I don't think so. That's totally fresh to me. Jesse Vint is this he's kind of a military officer. He is an odd choice as the lead because of the way they portray him as being like, a very handsome lead. He is not very handsome. He's kind of uncomfortable Look at him. But nobody in the movie used to think this, you know, could just be me. Oh, anyway, the story opens with with Mike Colby and his robot assistant, Sam one Oh, for sure. On their starship just minding their own business when they are suddenly attacked by footage from a different Roger Corman movie. You guys seen battle beyond the stars? Oh, there you go. Yes. I was watching this up like, it just opens up with you know, kind of like Pandora and he gets woken up by his robot. And the robot says telling them we're under attack. Oh, what's going on here? And then it's just literally 10 minutes of spaceship footage. I was like, This looks so familiar. And it is all footage from battle beyond this. Oh, Carmen. Yes, she baster. There's all these starships all over the place chasing him firing on him. Not sure exactly why I guess they might be pirates or, you know, something like that. But it really is just an excuse to get some outer space dogfights on the screen. And these are really bad sub A Battlestar Galactica model, and you know, flying through the air but there's something charming about that old style of actually putting a model and then watching it explode with a big Oh, yeah, I or work inside of it and all that. So I loved it. Then afterwards, Sam, Sam 104. I'm just gonna call him Sam. Now. He informs Mike that the military is sending them to investigate some get a problem at a distant laboratory on some far flung planet. So they hop into a very That version of hyperspace and they arrive at the desert planet of Zambia if you now this is really so our first shot inside is following a woman with a spectacular ass in her space jumpsuit fantastic. And it is also revealed that her space jumpsuit has a plunging neckline. Is it silver? It is hers is white. Okay. Everyone, but the women in the lab wear normal clothes and have these very tight jumpsuits with plunging neckline. It's the future you guys. Future ain't what it used to be gone. There you go. Yes. So Mike arrives he meets everyone there and he finds out that they've been creating a new food source but it has somehow mutated into an octopus like Monster and cause some damage but they've got it under control now that this thing in the this area and it soon breaks out of that area and starts killing everybody. And now the movie has gone from like a Star Wars rip off at the beginning to an alien ripoff and it stays an alien robot for the rest. Fantastic so that night, Mike Colby manages to get into the jumpsuit of June Chadwick. He has a spectacular s. And while they're having sex, one of the guards is watching them through a video screen and he's pulling on this weird space. Yo Yo. Yeah, it's lighting up while he's watching them very creepily through this this video screen holding. Yeah. Because that's what I mean. It's like a It's clearly a jerking off metaphor. Yeah. Whoo. Yo, yo. Yeah. Yeah, well, you hold it with both hands and you pull it apart, like a, like a accordion type thing. Like, spins around. I'm sure it's something that actually existed back in the 80s. That's pretty fun. It's all okay that he's doing this weird voyeur stuff because he gets killed next. Okay. Oh. But it is a weird scene because he hears a sound so he goes to investigate that sound. And as he's walking through the, through these dark corners and kind of turning and every once a while you're like, something watching him and all that. But the way it's edited is, as he's doing that, then you drop, like two frames of the sex scene into okay. And I mean, it's, I'm not even joking. So if there's 24 frames in a second two scenes is almost a subconscious level, right? So you just get this blink of a, you know, a butt or something like that. And I was like, is he distracted? Because that's what he's thinking. But the actor is never given anything to do with that. So it's like, they just decided to edit this very strange. Weird. Yeah, it's it is weird. It would have been it would have made more sense to me if he was like, distracted because I think he had something for this girl and then she's, you know, with the dude. Anyway. It's not played that way at all. Hmm. The next morning, Mike ends up in the steam room with the other young one. And they both get naked and are getting it on. Also, this girl's boyfriend was the first one to die yesterday. So she has gotten over this very quickly, mourning that loss look, this guy Jess, even not a good looking man. There's literally no reason for these women to be throwing themselves because because the other men in this lab are much better looking. But I'm guessing you know, he's new. He's new dude. Yeah, distraction from laboratory work. It's just so weird in the steam room because she was really broken up about her boyfriend the night before. And then there's just this way. There's a ton of gratuitous nudity in this which is my favorite kind of nudity, sir. And it's it's like wow, this is there's no hiding what this movie is all about love. So and then of course that that gets interrupted because the alien attacks them in the Steam Room. And everybody shows up and the girl he was with the night before is like, what's going on in here? What's What's the alien? Where were you telling her about us cars? Right Hi Barbie. Chicks dig scars. They end up hunting the creature on the planet's inhospitable surface, which is also the same planet that Kirk battled the going on because there's that cool rock formation. No, I'm guessing this somehow exists in the Star Trek universe now. Of course it does. It is infinite space. So I mean, from here, there's just a ton of nonsense. It's all quite enjoyable. You know, of course that Kobe kills the creature. He gets the girl in the end, but not before everyone else dies. I loved it. Love it. Trivia. I feel like I must have seen this when I was 13 or 14. But it all felt very new to me. By very new, I mean, yeah, a little bit of trivia. According to director Alan Holtzman, he began shooting without a script with these directions from Corman, you have four days to write, produce head direct a seven to eight minute opening of a space movie. I'll give you an astronaut and a robot and if you need any inspiration, I've always wanted to do a version of Lawrence of Arabia in outer space. Whoa, now let me just tell you guys this. This is not an adaptation of Lawrence of Arabia in outer space. There is nothing Lawrence of Arabia. I like the idea though. It's more like Lawrence of Arabia. Guy. That is a real movie. Oh. This is so exciting. During a screening, Roger Corman actually smacked an audience member on the head for laughing at film. When Roger left the theater the guy he punched, poured soda all over his head from the balcony. That sounds fair. That sounds like what you should be doing while watching this video. Approximately six minutes of footage was removed from the original pre release assembly on orders of Roger Corman who was angered by witnessing a test screening Audience laughing uproariously at some of the comedic passages that were subsequently removed. The modular forms decorating the hallways of the research lab are hinged lids, Styrofoam sandwich boxes like McDonald's back then and everything which were all designed by James Cameron for the movie galaxy of terror, and they just kept them and then slapped him back. I spoke about galaxy of terror, I believe so yeah, one episode. It was shot in 20 days, which is fairly impressive. I mean, it it's this is not a weird, badly made movie. It's a pretty decently made movie. There is a scene where they send this, this character in to clean up this part of the laboratory where the creature escaped from and there's all these dead animals, cats and dogs and stuff like that. This is upsetting. The slaughtered animals in the laboratory where actual dead animals bought from a local palace. Oh my god. This is not true. Because the scene is just him picking up cats and throwing them into like a space garbage can. And I'm like, I really hope they did not tell that actor he had to first of all, tell the set director spread all these dead animals around and then tell the actor Okay, now clean up all these dead animals. Oh my god, very upsetting if that's true. Oh, Jesus. That was my movie. A really did a good time with it. That sounds Roger Corman news. Doing your point. You would think though that audience sorry, you're saying he'd go, his head would shift. Okay, I see what we're doing here. Let's release this in a slightly different way. Well, the the director wanted to kind of make it he knew he had a budget of less than a million dollars and he was like, we can't treat this to seriously this is ridiculous. And so I guess he had a lot of comedic moments in it. And Corman didn't understand the comedy. So when the audience was laughing at it, he thought that you know, hey, we can't have these moments in here. This is my this is my Lawrence of Arabia. Roger, Roger ever had one of those? Maybe his pole movies. Wow. Yeah. Those are some very different spaceship movies. Yes. Good point. Yes. Well, I do love when we get something this broad we get a nice cross section of all sorts of shit. Yeah, it's I just thinking about what the women in our each of our films was wearing alone. Like yours. Eric had a shower curtain Kelly, you had gorgeous white plunging line space lab students. And mine was like Mad Max were right. So space. It's so beautiful. By the way the other girl and this with the with the space jumpsuit, hers was a pastel pink. That does help. Yeah. Kinda like a shiny pastel pink but nobody had like the lavender to like, you know, make a good trio of colors, right? It's always so weird to watch these movies. And see especially the Corman ripoffs of various movies and they don't get what made a movie like Star Wars or alien looks so great is is that it looked like that. mining ship and alien had been around for 100 years. They've been using it to do stuff with or all the stuff in Star Trek, you know, or Star Wars was, was a huge universe the ships had oil dripping from them and all this stuff. Yeah. And the corpsman comes in, he's like, alright, let's paint some Styrofoam. And put it up on the wall. Everything is like, brand new. In this movie, it's absolutely for the animals that are dead. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh, well. So okay, that means that the next pick is mine. But we also know that instead of that next episode, we are doing our favorites of 2021 day. Yeah, that's exciting. That's what next episode is going to be kind of a countdown to the movies. Yes, I have a lot of work and I are going to have some similarities. I think so. Yes. And some differences for sure. And I just won't have anything that overlaps with either of the years will overlap with both of us. And that's gonna be a very boring episode. Fantastic. All right. Give the people what they want. That's the part where I thank everybody for participating in the value for value model. Thanks so much for that guys. liking, sharing posts, sending money, sending really cool stamps and stuff like that. Oh, cool. Anything else we should mention before we sign out? Just want to say thanks again to the folks that sent us this questions that helped me 150 such an interesting, unique episode, so you may have to do that again sometime in the future, but episode 200 how you go. 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