285 WHICH BOARD?

285 WHICH BOARD?
Kelly shares a delicious wine story before the gang gets into their picks for Ouija board movies.
Also discussed: Alien: Romulus (heavy spoilers), Jackpot, The Umbrella Academy.

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Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition. We have such sights to show you strange eons. Welcome to strange eons radio. That is Eric over there. That is Vanessa over there. I'm Kelly Higgin. A lot of stuff goes into the show you are about to get today. Listener, I'm talking to you, but the most the biggest part of that is that I had so much to drink last night that I woke up about four minutes before Eric knocked on the door. That's impressive. So yeah, friends showed up in town, and we were just like, hey, let's drink. So I showed him the speakeasy, I showed him karaoke, I showed him everything, and it was the every night lie when he had too much. I blame it all on this lovely new invention I've got, which is called a sleep mask. Have you guys ever heard of this word? However, mine has Bluetooth and connects to music, and so I listen to music softly in my ears, no light coming through the windows, and I'm just like, very nice. That's a very specific snore. You might want to look into a sleep mask too. Speaking of drinking, the other night, I was watching a movie, and I was drinking this lovely, expensive bottle of wine that my friend had recommended to me, and he's telling me all about this winery that he had visited, and I'm just thinking about this name, and I'm like, Yeah, I feel like I've been there or something. But after drinking this delicious bottle of wine, finally hit me, Vanessa, that it was your family's winery that I was drinking. It was like, Oh, no wonder this sounds so familiar to me. Yes. Mangata, yeah. So then the next day, which was yesterday. It was part of my drinking day. I went back to the bottle shop, and I told my buddy, I know why that bottle sounded so familiar to me. He was just like, that is crazy. Because he is a he's a somme a he's just so in tune to every part of wine in the state and in Europe and all that stuff. And he was like, This is so out of the way in Walla Walla. I mean, there's, there's so many wineries and vineyards and everything in Walla Walla, but not in this part of Walla Walla, apparently, nope. And you're not going to drive by it and go, Hey, we should stop in. You have to basically be on your way to a campground nine miles off a road that you probably would not otherwise turn on. Well, he said that while they were there, somebody had suggested, oh, you got to go check out, check out mangata. And he was like, all right. And he did. And then he he now is going to be selling them at his That is so awesome. They have been working their ass off so hard. They inherited this, this place. They bought it for retirement, and which don't do, please, if you're gonna retire, don't buy a fucking vineyard. Oh my God, but they did, and it was a, it was a hot mess. Basically, they moved in and had to, like, harvest grapes immediately. And then Yep, and then figure it out very quickly, you know, get, get a wine maker, find distribution, distribution, all this stuff they had never done before. And they're now on their third year of doing it and doing really well, but still working hard. These are like retirees out in the vineyard, like moving grapes around, cutting vines. You know, it's it's crazy. It's crazy. Well, it's really delicious. So, oh yeah, I had the Cab Franc that night. That was amazing. Then you were kind enough to bring a couple of bottles today. Thank you. You could just do that every Sunday. That'd be awesome. Um, I will be next me. I will next go out there in November, so maybe in November, November you can bring November. Wait a minute. I did not agree to anything along those lines at all. The movie I was watching the other night, yeah, was something called jackpot on Amazon Prime, okay? And it is. It's got Aquafina in it. And John Cena. Now, if you'd told me that I was going to just think that John Cena was the best thing that had happened to movies in a long time, I would say you're insane, and I fear that he might be getting a little over exposure here. But. This goddamn movie was so cute and funny. And Aquafina, who I do not like, I think I like. Now, after this movie, she was adorable and great. And it is the story of the it's set in 20/31 of all. So that's wild. I was like, What is this? It's like some kind of dystopian future where the lottery winner who gets picked has to stay alive for 24 hours while everybody else is trying to kill them and take their money. Yes. And I thought, this is not at all what I thought this movie was going to be. And it was fucking adorable. And I reached out to you, Vanessa, and I said, there's a couple of scenes in this that I think were written for you. So you watched it. I did. I did. I was well, I got your message. And I was like, What the fuck are you talking about? You were like, No, you have to see this film. So I told my husband, we have to watch this movie. Kelly said, we have to, which is true. And yeah, oh my god. When he started like, I think he was like, humming the beginning of one of the film Ninja Turtles songs, yes, and my brain just clicked in. I thought it might, oh my God. And I was like, did it? I was like, Why do I know this? I was like, oh shit. And then he had the little turtles, and then he's like, I'm a Michelangelo. And I was like, You're a fucking Leo. And you know it, don't lie. Don't lie. We all wish we were a Michelangelo, but you know you're a Leo. It was incredible. And during some of the fight scenes, during the fight scenes, they go into the turtle wrap. They go into the turtle wrap, he does the traditional turtle fight, where he gets up on his chair and starts hurting people's feet, and then he spins around and he does a kick flip with it attached to him, and then he breaks the chair. And I was like, holy shit. And then at the very end, there is a lovely little turtle Stinger that I thought was very funny. And I was just like, You know what? I know you're not a huge comedy fan, but this was mostly action and the comedy, I thought would speak to you, since it was all about how horrible the film industry is to actors. You know, it was crazy, because I was, like, not excited, and it was really funny. I laughed a lot. Yeah, there was, there was some, and also the fighting style was so much like a kind of Shaw Brothers throwback, or even a Jackie Chan style, where it's like, yeah, it's like, it's using a lot of local props and silly, like physicality of things that are nearby, and then some of it's exaggerated. And it was just fun. They did a Drunken Master kind of sound in there. It had, it was really, really neat. I mean, there is a little bit of that he straps her to his back at one point while he's fighting, so she's facing the other way, and he's swinging around, using her feet to kick people. And I was like, wow. Whoever watched this fucking loves the old kung fu film. I will also toss out real fast if you're enjoying Cena. Do watch blockers? Oh, I did what you told me about that. And I was like, I had no idea how funny he is, the extended butt chugger chokes. Oh, my God. Well. And also, the thing that I didn't realize until watching the credits for jackpot was how good at improv he is, yes, some of the best improv scenes of like, look at all these funny lines that our actors came up with. Like, his were the best. He was slamming wrestlers. It makes sense. It tracks. It was also, I mean, those bloopers and everything. It was like, holy shit. They had a good time making this movie is directed by Paul Feig, yeah. So I was like, Yeah, this was probably a lot of fun to make, and just just a really fun kind of filthy movie. It's called jackpot, and it is brand new on Amazon Prime. It was a good recommendation. Well, I got to go out before, so my mom went off to Europe, and she's gone for three weeks, three and a half weeks, which means I have no babysitter for three and a half weeks. Which is means I got to see one final movie for a hot minute. And I went and saw cuckoo, which is a kind of newer independent horror film. That's it's got, oh my god, I always forget his name, the guy from the guest and Downton Abbey, Dan Stevens. Dan Stevens, yeah, so he's in it. There's another, like, kind of up and coming female star in it. And it's about this young girl whose family she she moves in with her dad, after something goes goes on with her and her mom, and he moves to this, like resort, this, like German, little German mountain town resort out in the middle of nowhere. And there's something weird happening at this resort. This movie has a lot of praise. A lot of people really love it. It's kind of like in the long legs group, the same people that talk about long legs are talking about. This. I haven't even heard of this movie. It's, um, you know, I feel like a lot of people love it, and I think they're not entirely right, stupid or liar, as I like to say, um, it's just that, like, there's a lot of interesting, fun things happening in it, but the plot was not well thought through, and the more you think about it, the more it falls apart. And you're like, Wait, why did this thing do this thing? I don't know. Why did she dream about that? I don't know. What does this particular weird thing going on with time mean nothing. And that was frustrating to me. I do think it's interesting. I think they did a great job for a very, very low budget. I think it's worth watching. But I also was like, this is way, like it's getting way more love than maybe it deserves. So I don't know. I'm always in the minority on this. So I accept that. I accept that people, you guys, are going to watch this and be like, Oh my God, it's amazing. You're wrong. Vanessa, and that's fine. That's fine. I get it. I'm a dick, but they did a good job. It's just I if you start to think about it much like long legs, you're like, wait a minute, guys, hold on. So I'm glad you guys said that about long legs, because I did finally watch it, and I was like, I think I am one of the few people who didn't think this was amazing in any way. Yeah, it was gorgeous looking, but I thought it was good performances, good looking. There's and this, the story was odd enough that I felt like, Did I miss something? That's what else caught but yeah, yeah, the final act of long lakes was really pretty rotten. In retrospect, you're here. So yesterday, my wife and I did something we had done in a long time, which used to do a lot, was we went to back to back films in the theater. First one, Deadpool, Wolverine, Ah, finally, as advertised, I'm like, All right, I'm finally liking a Marvel movie again, and it is absolute insane fan service. So much fun. It was funny because Dina caught all the homages to his wife that he did in there and I and she's like, missed most of the Marvel stuff, the life field joke done front and center as a major end is like, Wow, that's awesome. Ballsy to do it that way. I think he deserves all the criticism he gets, but he is also a very good sport about this. He thinks it's very funny. It's good to be accepting when you have such a weird thing. And the opening scene with New Kids on the Block, and the use of music on this is just fun and sync. Jesus, I had a moment where I was like, Wait, did I miss them? No, no, it's definitely bye, bye, bye. But the use of music through the whole thing was just fun. Yeah, just fun. Good times at the movie, incredibly violent. Hey, we've got two guys that can heal. Let's just tear the shit out of Yeah, once I realized that I was like, That is a good that is a good buddy lineup. If you've got two people who can beat the living shit out of each other and be fine. Amazing. Yes, the second film, I kind of wish you'd watch these in reverse order. Was alien Romulus the first thing out the gate and watch this going, why'd they hire a 14 year old to be the lead? And I know people look younger as you get older. I looked her up. She's like, 26 oh my gosh, wow. She's kind of the opposite of a grease actor. It's like, you look a lot younger than you actually are very young cast, yeah, which you know the but overall, it was not the movie that I wanted it to be. There is one jarring cameo because of special effects that I was like, this isn't quite perfect, and there's no need for this. Well, this could have been any actor, yeah, Cameo, yeah. And if you want to be story, this one's less of a spoiler, because it's very early in the movie. The idea is they live on this business controlled world, and the lead gets hits her hours, so she's ready to get her ticket to get off world. And they say, sorry, due to labor shortage, we've doubled your time so you'll be able to leave another five to six years. And then the group of rebels find a way that maybe they can escape, and they hop on a ship that just flies out of this place. Yeah, I'm like, did they need clearance or isn't anybody? Can anybody just fly off of a planet that they're basically imprisoned on? I was like, Oh, well, move on. I guess the whole point being that you know what they need are those cryogenic chambers, because everything is so fucking far away from this that even if you left you. You're not going, oh, so there. So it's not like Earth, it's like, no, it's a different it's out in place, yeah. And is it between the like I heard, it was between the first and the second alien? Yes, supposed to be, but it, I mean, it doesn't need to be the way it's set up. It could be, because I always thought that was very confusing, because it was like the second movie, they had to kind of go and find these guys again, like it wasn't like they were just popping up everywhere. But I don't know they tie it into the the explosion of the Nostromo, but they have a very brief mention of what happened prior to this movie. And I was like, I think I would have liked that movie better. The scientists who pick up the alien that's floating out in space and all that shit. Yeah, that brief part was really promising. This looks cool. This is interesting. Oh, all right, Okay, moving on. First of all, I'll say this. I didn't hate this movie. No, I didn't feel bad that that it was out, or anything like that. But it's still, like, right after alien three, yeah, me first three, and then this one. So it's not, it's a completely unnecessary film, Yeah, unfortunately, sort of like the the new old men and yeah, a lot of other ones are, well, they're doing something interesting, but maybe you could have done something like, pray, yeah, that's gonna be the go to pray for a while. I just Yeah. I assumed that they were finally gonna do the like, what it's like when aliens get on planet Earth. And I guess I was very, very wrong. Yeah, in the movie, I thought it was gonna be, was the settlers on that LV 426, planet when they first get there. So I thought we were gonna get a story just prior to aliens. Instead, we get this kind of completely disconnected story that you know, that doesn't even end itself really. You're just like, Oh, I wonder what happened to these people after this. Yeah, that would have made a lot more sense, but it was for whatever movie you're watching, you dismiss things sometimes, and it had a few moments like that. But up until the end, I was I was enjoying it. It's fun. Then that was just Whoa, left field, the curve balls, okay, but I'm fine. I signed a theater. I'm not gonna complain about it, because it was entertaining. The real question is, did you get any of the alien popcorn buckets? Oh, yeah. Did they even have them? I don't think so. If this is the 21 and over one that I go to, and they don't have a lot of, yeah, that was a legal gotcha thing only, there's a regal one, and there's a different one for, I think, Cinemark. So there's, that's where the two different buckets were from, I see, so you had to, you want to get the one that matches the dune bucket the best, so you can play with your buckets. The alien. The alien head really freaks me out. Man, like the, I don't know, I don't need to. It looked cool in this movie. The Xenomorph looked really good. Yeah, it did look great, right? I mean, everything, the ship design and everything was so cool, felt like it was right out of alien Yeah, you know. So even the, like, little tracker things and the sounds, I mean, it did the stuff. It did well. It did really, really well, yeah, yeah, not a horrible film, no. Okay, well, then, since you talked about that, I'm going to talk about I watched every single episode of the umbrella academies new season that just dropped. Is it good? Yeah. And I was not a fan of last season, yeah. I was like, and this sun started up, and I was like, oh, okay, interesting, interesting. And let's see where this is going. And then the only complaint I have about it is that I thought it ended a little too abruptly, and it is the last season, so it is a very clear ending to this story. But otherwise I thought it was really good. I really like all the actors in there, and I hope they go on to bigger and better things. Umbrella Academy, it's on Netflix. Nice, yeah? Like, I was really excited that they were finally going to showcase something with Ben. So, yeah, that's, I'm stoked about that part, yeah, well, I finished up house of the Dragon this most recent, I think it's season three. It gets fucking good, man. It's really good, good. I, you know, I'm doing the 100 Days thing, so I'm three episodes behind that. I think I'm only one episode behind on evil, because, yeah, evil, I'm only one episode behind but are you including the newest because they have, like a three mini sewed posts. Season Four ending for evil, for evil. Did not know that. I did not know that either. Yeah, because I think they couldn't quite wrap it up the way they want to. So it's like X amount of time later, this thing happens, and then this thing happened, and there's one more. I don't know if there'll be more than that. I think there's just one more, and they're all out. Oh, wow. And those are. Yeah, you don't have to, like, go to YouTube to hunt them. They included it. They're included in Paramount, yeah, they're full length. They're like, an hour or something each. So fantastic. Yeah, looks like, Yeah, guess I'm way behind. We just are evil, just, uh, hijacked your issue. I know I was like, now I want to talk about the, like, fun credit sequence, thing. And anyways, House of the dragon, yeah, like, I, you know, I don't know. I was starting to really lose faith in House of the dragon. I felt like it was getting a little bit like, I don't know, meandery and up. But this season, about two thirds the way through, they start introducing more and more and more dragons and some of the little sideline characters that you're like, Why the fuck are you here? Start like, actually meaning something and like, there's a real big moment where of the two girls, one of them, realizes that maybe they were wrong, and has a massive, like, emotional, personal crisis about it. It's just really, really fun. I don't want to give crazy amounts away, but I will say, if you're interested in more Game of Thrones, I would say this has a little bit less bloodshed and sex in this show, especially the second half, but still really fucking, a lot more dragons. Lot more dragons. Shit done, more dragons and some really interesting story and character beats. So I thought it was really bad writing when that guy stands up and he looks at all the dragons and he's like, this is truly a house of the dragon. That was his only part in the entire show, oh, God, alrighty. Well, a couple weeks ago, or whenever, I talked about Knock knock, Fiona Reeves, Eli Roth so and in the middle of it, I realized, Oh, this is a remake of something called death game from 1977 and lo and behold, Joe Bob does that on his very next episode. So, you know, I took a hour, a 90 minute movie and watched it for three hours because it was a long Joe Bob episode, because he had Colleen camp, who plays the lady who went on to be in James Bond and stuff that's in the knock, knock, yeah, yeah. She played that character, the more goofy character, I guess, between the two women, because she went on for a hell of a career. She like, produced films and did all this stuff. She was the maid in clue. A lot of people might recognize, which was funny while there, her interview with Joe Bob was just phenomenal, nice. So I watched all of that with there. And the movie, it's a much better film. I do too. It is so much better realize and the the discomfort, it's a little slimier, for sure, yes, and the ladies, especially Sandra, the lead lady with that, the thing you've seen everywhere, with her makeup, where she gives herself kind of like horns above her eyes or whatever, and just added a weird element that I thought kind of looked dumb on the poster, but watching the movie Going it's really weird and works really well. There you. Meaner and the guy is less likable. I mean, Keanu is hard not to like this guy is he's really good. He's not a bad performance. But see Seymour Castile, he's not as fun as likable and works better, which helps the whole film. The end is ridiculously bizarre. I don't know if I remember the ending. I mean it just basically, don't, isn't I mean, it ends like that, the ladies get away, la, la, la, la, they're walking out. And then it ends. And the in the interviewers are talking about the producers were having a problem with the way that was ending, so they had to alter it to fit the ideal of what Hollywood wants. But I tell you, it's really good. If you have any interest in 70s Lee's weirdness, you should watch it, and you should definitely watch Joe Bob's episode about it. I'm gonna have to watch the Joe Bob version. Yeah, I've done that a lot with his stuff, where I just fast forward through them, because it's a movie I've seen says fast forward through the movie, and just watch his segments. Nice. And this one was really good, because Colleen camp is really an interesting person to listen to, and is done, and seems to know, like everybody, that's really very cool, that's awesome, cool. Well, all right, gang, how about we take a little break, and then when we come back, we're talking Ouija boards. You? Is Jake gonna ask me to the damn oh boy, be when I get a car job, go out with Adam, get a tattoo, eat bacon. Got questions? Don't be left in the dark. New glow in the dark. Ouija, will my parents ever let me stay up past 10? Come on. What do you want to know? How about 930? We are back. I just took a nice 20 minute nap and feeling refreshed. We are back. Erica, this was your sub genre. Tech. You want to tell us what we're talking about and why talking about Ouija boards, witch boards, summoning boards, whatever you wanted to do. Because why not? You know, a lot of times I have something in the tank that I want to talk about. This was not one of those times. Okay, so I ended up watching an okay film ready to tie b How about I put 10 minutes on our buzzer that sounds good, and talk about it and go. Thank you. Is a movie from 2007 called drive through. What would you like to order today? Do you want something meaty? Did someone say pork? Do you want it bloody? Would you like fries with that? I'm on the scene of yet another grizzly murder. You don't believe anything I've told you. It was a seven foot clown chasing you with a meat cleaver. Why would someone dressed as horny the clown want to hurt her children? I am the one person who might be able to able to stop it. Order of a slice of drive thru fast food kills on DVD. No rhyme, tomatoes. Rating from critics, 37 from the crowd, which is about right. Budget was half a mil. Nothing on box office. You can get it on Plex, or you can rent it so it's readily available. Think I watched it on, I might have, I don't know. I might have watched on to be who knows. But directed by Brendan Cowles and Shane Kuhn. The only film for Brendan and Shane also directed something called redneck Brendan cows and Shane Kuhn writers also writer on dead in Tombstone, dead again in Tombstone, the scorpion thing three, battle for redemption. I love that as a name for a sequel that's down the road. Battle for Yeah, yeah, I see that and Seal Team eight, oh, behind enemy lines, starring Leighton Meester, who you might not know from Xmas or how I met your father. Eight episodes SEAL Team eight. How I Met Your father. What's going on with these guys he was in. It looks like every episode of Gossip Girl, The Haunting of Sorority Row and just lots of TV notes during her modeling years, she worked with photographer turned filmmaker. Sophia Copeland, coppala, Nicholas de agosto, our Harvey Dent in the Gotham TV series for 19 episodes, eight episodes of criminal mind, final destination, five and election was his first film. Nice start. Melora Hardin, who's Jan in the office for 42 episodes, Michael Scott's boss, zombie. And remember, they got married, or they're just together for a while, zombie Hamlet, sure. And two episodes of Little House on the Prairie. And a lot of TV. 120 credits overall. Larry, Joe Campbell, eight episodes of Orville. Do you like the Orville? Yeah, cool. And tip my thoughts on this movie like boys give us a lowdown on every single dog. Man two, the wrath of the litter, my God. And according to Jim 128, episodes and Wedding Crashers, and he's definitely one of the Oh, that guy faces. Okay. Movie breakdown. This movie starts with cast from. Um, the music video, pretty fly for a white guy, four guys in a car, or two guys, two girls in a car, being the most cliched awful white dudes with that kind of bad attitude and words I probably wouldn't say nowadays, especially coming out of a white guy and, well, you know, of course, they get killed off right away. The killer in this movie is a giant clown that sort of looks like it's got a sort of like if they took Ronald McDonald and put him on with a speaker for Drive Thru menus. You know you always see in TV and movies, but very ever see like in real life, he's one of those kind of creatures. The the low BOD, low budget effects are kind of hit or miss. The there's a band at the big more of that later, but there's a band at the beginning that the lead ladies in that's pretty decent, nice, little kind of metalish band that, you know, 2005 rock band that wants to hold on to the 90s sound to them. And hey, they drive right into the Ouija board, and it's used really weirdly. They talk to the Ouija board, and it gives them a series of numbers and letters which happen to correspond to the license plate of the guys that were killed in the first scene. What? What is, what? How? What's the tie in here? Is he trying to get them to solve the mystery of the license plate? So I don't know, but there's the Ouija board. Ouija boards ends with a fart joke. So we're quality filmmaking land here. Oh dear. Okay, honestly, through the first part of this movie, I was kind of enjoying it. It's really stupid, it's really fun, and it's it's fine, but, and they, they, they have their high school is the 9020, slash, Buffy TV show high school. Okay, they, and I noticed they know how recognizable it is, so they do the exterior shot, and it's some other school, but they go into that front entrance where you've got the stairs that go down, it's like, oh yeah, I know that high school look, but yeah, I even have the note here, maybe because I was expecting less than nothing. This is kind of fun. The burger place's mascot is called horny the clown. This is the lead killer. And the ads that advertise this particular restaurant are edited porn segments. So I'm not quite sure how this guy got away with becoming hugely popular and well, as they the cops say at one point, well, he's a well respected member of our society. I don't think he would be. And they've got backwards masking moment where they're supposedly playing ACDC backwards, but I don't even sound like ACDC backwards, man. I mean, you got to work a little harder on that. Sound alike. Tons of childish, silly humor. The effects have that 2005 problem where they're not quite sure if they should use practical or digital, and wherever they go to digital effects, it's not great. And at some point they definitely lost, lost, ran out of money, because suddenly there's a lot of violence. It's like splattering up to the face and stuff and like, Okay, here's the taglines at helleberger, it won't be the food that kills you, but you'll wish it did. Hello, burger. Hungry for a killer burger. Fast Food kills this a surprising amount of politics in this movie, you could tell the writer was inserting his thoughts throughout the films. Like, well, that's ran. Sometimes it actually worked great with a story, and other times like, well, that's a random, odd thought. But okay, the I did watch on to be part of the problem with watching this particular one on to be it added almost 15 minutes to the runtime. It was ad heavy. Sometimes it's great. You're like, two or three ads and you're done. But this was boy, almost like, maybe I should have rented it for three bucks, but I'm good. The let's see, in this movie, lighten Meester, Mackenzie carpenter and Penn broadly, who plays fan play friends, but later the TV show Gossip Girl, they played rivals, Blair waldroff and Don Humphrey. You watched that one, didn't you? I actually did not watch the one you watched all the time. Oh, man, I watched One Tree Hill and Gilmore Girls. Gilmore Girls was when I was thinking, yeah, Gilmore Girls. Uh. Editing was done by Daniel Padgett, who has worked in the editorial department of The Royal Tenenbaums and Space Jam. So some big budget movies. It was released. This movie's been released under several names, burger kill Canada and France. Fast food killer in Spain, and death burger in Japan. And the working title, which you know might have gone with, hella burger, was their shooting title while making the movie. So, yeah, it's fine. It's a standard hack and slash with cool I did like the costuming on there, and moments were fun, if you're if maybe, if I'd had alternative products in my head, head of some kind of drink or smoke or something, it would have been A lot of fun. But I did not. So there you go. All right, crapped out on my WeChat right through. Well, you know what? This is, one of the movies that I looked at when you said this, and I'm glad I damn it. I'm gonna get your timer off. You got one minute left? Hey, okay, Vanessa, you want to go next Sure? 10 Minute me, 10 minutes. All right. So I actually have had this film on my list for a long time, so I was like finally excuse to watch the 1986 film. Which board I music. David, are you here? Can you hear me? It began at a party. It was only a game. David, will you return to the living one day? Bullshit. Careful, Jim, You're upsetting David. David, are you all right? Yeah, he's all right. It's just a little bit Shut up, Jim. What's he gonna do? Haunt me. You. Hello, Linda. This is Brandon. I just realized I left my Ouija there the other night. I'm having some friends over Sunday, and they want to use it besides, I want to contact David and see if he's calmed down yet. David, are you here? Are you still angry at Jim? David, where are you? Man, don't tell me you bought that crap with Brandon. Edward, Oh, please, David, hold a grudge, don't you. David, I want to bring a medium by your apartment as soon as possible to exercise the spirit. Okay. Stuff is ghosts. David, where are you? You? Did you cause that accident at the site? David, don't lie to me. When someone uses a Ouija alone, like Linda, she's very susceptible to the spirits she contacts, and the wrong spirit will take advantage of this pretty soon, all she wants to do is use the board, and once that's done, he's able to possess her. Do Glenda has made contact. David is here, and he's playing for real. It isn't a game any more. Which board don't play it alone? Oh yeah, Tony Catan, that's right, we're gonna talk about Tawny um Rotten Tomatoes. Score of 50% from critics, 41% from audience, budget of 1.5 to 2 million, box office of 7.4 so it did pretty good for itself. Written and directed by Kevin Tenney, who has 14 directing credits and 11 writing credits. He directed the seller which trap, which which board, two nightly demons, Pinocchio's Revenge of Bigfoot, 2009 starring Todd Allen is Jim. He has 62 credits, including mask white Earp, the postman and Pinocchios revenge. Tawny Catan, is that how you say your name? Catan? Catan, like a shirt. Can Harley Catan, oh my gosh. As Linda, 46 bachelor party after midnight, and a lot of white snake music videos, including woman and she was in 39 episodes of eek the cat. I know, okay, I know, as a as a voice, obviously, Stephen Nichols plays Brandon. 46 episodes, 46 credits, including house and 1696 episodes of Days of Our Lives as Steve patch, Johnson patch, 256 episodes of The Young and the Restless as Tucker, and 101 episodes of General Hospital as Stefan. So good. Yeah, this guy, I think he kind of stole the show anyway. But absolutely, Kathleen will with Hoi as the psych as a psychic. She's 136 credits, and I know her from Gilmore Girls. She's also the kind of quirky girl in Roadhouse she was in Pepper and Twin Peaks and fire in the sky. This story follows Jim and his girlfriend Linda, are holding a super fun party at their enormous rental house. I think it's really hard to realize that it's their house, or that it's a rental or that it's his girlfriend, until probably somewhere in the second act of this film, he's there with his other quote, unquote, lower class buddies, all wearing band shirts while everyone else is dressing high end 80s yuppie attire. The guys say they feel underdressed, and he tells them everyone else is overdressed. Linda has invited her ex, Brandon, who it's also hard to tell is her ex, or if he's her teacher, or some dude that has the hots for her regardless, Brandon has decided to bring out his Ouija board for the party, pronounced as he tells us, we ja, because a French and German something, something, he's been yes and yes. Apparently he's been communicating with a young boy named David who died several years ago, and he tells them that the rules are something something, and also maybe, like the ghosts like to lie and they have bad spelling, and that'll definitely come in play later. So good to know. He volunteers Linda and himself, and then cozies on up to her while Jim watches in a very frustrated way. He gets David on board, and David is a great talker through though Brandon, of course, reminds everyone that you know David is young and therefore can't spell everything correctly check off grammar, I'm telling you, but the party ends abruptly when Jim constantly sasses them and makes bad jokes and gives angry sarcasm towards Brandon, which causes David to get mad and slash Brandon's tires for Ghost reasons. The next day, we follow Linda, who decides to talk to David. More on the board by herself, but finds out that she kind of just keeps talking to him more and more throughout this film and just finds reasons not to return it back to Brandon, and something starts to happen to her. She gets a little bit more sweary, a little bit more violent, generally acting a little bit crazy. But it's fine, because she's probably just pregnant, so don't worry about it. In the meantime, a major accident occurs at Jim's work site, and a ghost appears to be behind it. Brandon catches on to Linda's obsession with the board and finds Jim to tell him that she needs to be exercised because she has all the markings of someone who's been possessed by the ghost that she's been communicating with, Linda ends up locked up by the ghost, and a few other crazy things happen that result in her being hospitalized after a ghost related accident. The question remains, will Linda survive her ghost encounter with David? If it's with David, after all, will a film suddenly become a buddy road trip film with Brandon and Jim, revealing a long lost friendship and a rekindling over some bad jokes and desires to save Linda. And will Linda be fully possessed by Carlos, a random ghost serial killer who takes over her body, destroys the apartment with a fire poker and then makes her dress in his old attire, with like kind of a suit and tie and hat situation. This film, the dialog is literally painful. It is so fucking rough, and it is made significantly worse by the actors being not very good. And it's made even worse by that by the Edit being extremely slow to cut between said dialog. Also, the music is crap. The script is borderline nonsensical. I only really enjoyed it when Brandon and Jim became friends again and were hanging out on a dock chatting to their ghost and then, like, nearly getting killed and slash being killed. Um. It looked like a nice time until the ghost threw a barrel of them. It makes sense that I don't entirely love this, because I may be the only human alive that did not like night of the demons. So it really tracks, and other people will probably really like which board I'm just not one of them. So little bit of trivia, when the filmmakers had discovered that Parker Brothers didn't own the title to Ouija, their attorney told them that they couldn't use this title. They said that the errors and omissions carrier didn't approve of the filmmakers, having already shot with the board, and they had to then put up a 50,000 bond to prevent any potential litigation. Though there was no lawsuit, Walter Johnston stated that they should have been cleared before they started filming. You think they then received the insurance to change the title to which board and were allowed to pay the bond, as well as integrate the early board footage, with the new board footage to show when Jim and Brandon were at Big Bear to show off the board. However, the filmmakers were divided about the title change, and many of them preferring Ouija. The others felt that which board was a cooler title, and so they kept it. I agree. Yeah, I agree, too. I think it's and especially how many films are now called Ouija. I think they made the right choice. The cast and crew had their fair share of some eerie occurrences on set. Some of the crew, mostly those that came in earlier, had significant problems inside the 637 Lucerne Boulevard house, such as the crew bumping into things that weren't there, as well as things that have moved that no one else around could have moved during that time frame, Wagner especially felt a strong presence at the end of the staircase where someone was walking behind him in numerous occurrences where the casting crew heard whispering and talking Tawny kitten was dating OJ Simpson at the time of filming, Tenny dropped out of the program at University of Southern California four units shy of earning his master's degree to begin shooting this film. And the film spawned two sequels, which board two, the devil's doorway in 1993 and which board three, the possession in 1995 a remake of this film will be released in 2024 directed by Chuck Russell, who's known for the horror genre Nightmare on Elm Street three from 87 and the blob 1988 the remake will star Jamie Campbell Bauer, Madison Eisman and Charlie tahen. It has already premiered at Fantasia International Film Fest in July and is scheduled to be released released later this year. That's my film. Well, this seems like you've said many times that don't remake good movies. Find films that maybe had a good idea. Wait a second. I don't like what you're implying here. This movie is awesome, especially a scene at the end where the ghost is driving the car and she's in the passenger seat. I don't remember this. And you can clearly see that it's just a person dressed in black driving the car and she's in the passenger seat. I don't remember this. Yeah, I remember sneaking into a theater to see this. And so there's some nostalgic ties for me. And Tanya Catan is gorgeous. Who cares? She can't act Yeah, she is gorgeous. And like I said, I really enjoyed the guy who played Brandon Steven Nichols. He was fun. He did a he really went full 80s, sleazebag yuppie. And I enjoyed that. Jim was just irritating with his lines. He was just like, always sarcastic and always dick and always like, funny. The wrong moments. I'm like, I don't this isn't enjoyable. Guys, my friend, who I snuck into there, the late Jeff Tolliver, was shocked that what's his name had two eyes because he wore a pack. You could see out of both eyes. Perfect timing, well done, and you couldn't even see the timer. Oh, my God. Okay. Well, so Eric, I thought this was a neat idea. And then I started looking at what was available, and I was like, you fucking asshole, yeah, that's pretty much how I felt, too. I found this list online that they shared with you guys of just like, seemed like hundreds of them, and none of them looked very almost none of them looked very good. It's like, well, there's the Michael Flanagan movie. Yeah. There were like, three kind of interesting sounding films, and unfortunately, the best of all of them I'd already done for this show. So, yeah, well, so I decided to be kind to myself this time, and I chose from 2016 The Conjuring. Two This is my Harlem. Get out now, no, this is not your house. Now, what's your name? My name is Bill Wilkins, and I'm 72 years old. What do you make of that? Voice sounds confused. You see now the voice on this tape is coming from an 11 year old girl. They're calling it England's Amityville. There is a family that desperately needs our help. After everything we've seen, there isn't much that rattles either of us anymore. But this one, this one still wants me. Does it feel like the voice is coming from inside you, like it's coming from behind me, like I'm being used Janet, you're right. Stop calling me Janice. She's such a good girl. What's the wrong with her? An oppressing spirit will try to force you to commit the ultimate sin. What's that? Murder, suicide, or both. You believe us, don't you sensing a presence? I'm not sensing anything. All I can sense is their own fear, honey, you're bleeding. What is happening? I had a premonition of your death. Who's that? The family's just a pawn. Something inhuman wants to kill you. If we keep doing this, you're going to die. I a budget of 40 million. Box Office of $323 million Wow rods made of critics give it 80% the audience gives it 81% directed by James Wan, who has 17 credits, including saw insidious Aquaman malignant. And it's written by James and Chad Hayes and Carrie W Hayes, who are a writing group, I'm guessing, husband and wife, maybe 32 credits, including House of Wax whiteout and the turning starring the wonderful Vera Farmiga, who has 90 credits, including the departed orphan source code and six movies in the conjuring universe as Lorraine Warren, also starring the amazing Patrick Wilson, who has 65 credits, including in the tall grass, which is not a road movie, it's A road movie. Wow, Watchmen, bone Tomahawk and six movies in the conjuring universe as Ed Warren, but also four movies in the insidious franchise Blumhouse has been very, very good to Patrick Wilson, also in this is Madison Wolf, Francis O'Connor and Lauren Esposito. You guys have seen The Conjuring two, right? Been a long time. Jim, probably okay. The Conjuring two, also known as The Conjuring two, the Enfield case in Europe. Film opens with Ed and Lorraine Warren investigating the Amityville house. Now, Eric and I do an Amityville side podcast, and we've made our opinions on the Amityville hunting and the Warrens pretty clear on the show, but for a quick recap, we both think it and they are huge piles of shit, still, if we were just talking about a horror urban legend, this opening is pretty great. There is a seance scene where Lorraine sees a little boy ghost, and it dovetails nicely with one of the creepier photos of the real case, which seemed to show a little boy ghost on the stairwell. I was like, Oh, this is kind of cool. As far as fucking urban legends go. Also Lorraine sees a vision of Ed being killed somewhere in the future, and she also sees the specter of an evil nun, for some reason, doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the Amityville house. It's just an evil entity showing up, coincidentally, at the Amityville party. Apparently, next we travel to London, where we meet the actual protagonist of the movie, which is a family by the name of Hodgson. It consists of a single mother and her two daughters and son. They are struggling to make ends meet, just like everyone in London in the 1970s and Janet, the daughter, has been using a handmade Ouija board, which I thought was just delightful. It's like a little paper craft kit of evil made. With construction paper and newspaper clippings and rubber bands. This is something I wish I had thought of as a kid, but in retrospect, we actually had the actual Parker Brothers Ouija board. So why would I? Real quick, I met the most amazing young woman in 1987 ish, when I was 16 or 17, and she claims that a Ouija board with her friends foretold the meeting that night, so I've got that going for me. Damn. What a line. Okay. Anyway, yeah, right. Holy shit. What a way to pick somebody up. No kidding, damn. Anyway, poor Janet seems to have unlocked the uneasy spirit of the angry man who died in the house, and pretty soon it seems as if she is being possessed by him. There's some really effective and creepy scenes in this build up, where the oldest daughter is watching her sister sleepwalk and talk to somebody that you can't see. And the photography and the light lighting in this is just really, really good. The mood is very, very creepy. Had the hair raising on my arms in some scenes. Also, Janet has decided to tie her arm to the bed to stop herself from sleepwalking. But that doesn't seem to work, because she wakes up on the floor of the living room somehow, right in front of the old Lazy Boy chair. There's some good haunted house tropes, like toys moving when they shouldn't be beds and furniture flying about. And the best scene is the mom getting very angry at the girls, thinking that they've messed up their room and all this shit. And all of a sudden, this dresser drawer moves right in front of just and she just stares at it for a minute, and then acts like everybody should act. She screams. She grabs the two girls and boy, and they run out of the house to the neighbors. Yes, this is what you do when something like that happens in your house. The cops show up and she tells them she thinks someone is in the house, and they poo poo, the whole ghost idea, and then a chair moves past them, and they act the exact same way. They're like, well, nothing we can do here. Good luck. Meanwhile, in America, Lorraine and Ed are seeing visions of this evil nun in their house, and it even attacks Lorraine for some reason why? No idea. It's very spooky. It makes no sense. So just let it go. But the Warrens are enlisted by the Catholic Church to help out the hodgsons in Enfield, where they find out that several paranormal investigators are already watching the house, their news crews and everything. And if you're not familiar, well, I think I get into it if I have time, by the time we're well into the second act, and I'm really enjoying the film. Vera Farmiga Patrick Wilson, are so goddamn likable, and their chemistry is so believable. Their performances are very sincere and earnest. And I just love them in these first two conjuring movies, I think these first two movies are great. We get a moment where it seems like there's proof that the youngest daughter has been making the whole thing up, and everyone is mad at the hodgsons for the hoax, but not Ed and Lorraine Warren. No, they are able to figure out that the girl is trying to save her family by making it look like a hoax. And in typical third act scenes of running and rushing, they are off to save the soul of this poor young girl. Will they be able to make it back in time to save the possessed girl before she commits suicide at the hands of the ghost? Will Lorraine's vision of Ed being skewered by a wickedly sharp tree trunk come to pass? And will this movie's gigantic fucking box office ensure that we will see not only more conjuring films, but also two fucking nun spin off movies with vere formage, younger sister, protagonist, Jesus, all these questions unless will be answered when you watch The Conjuring two on HBO Max like I did. Fucking love this movie. The franchise has been completely watered down, made into a joke, but this movie and that first movie are really, really good popcorn horror. Tagline, the next true story in the case files of Ed and Lorraine Warren fucking cunts. Trivia, this is the second film that deals with the Warrens having to help a haunted female named Janet, the Made for TV film, The Haunted from 1991 now considered to be a lost conjuring movie, had a woman named Janet smirnie being tormented by evil spirits. The Warrens also feature in that film, though obviously played by different actors, boo at a route at around two hours and five minutes in the shelf on which Ed places the strobe toy in the Warren's artifact den contains a golden upside down skull, which he moves to the side. This skull is the sacred treasure featured in the film vice versa that causes Judge Reinhold and Fred Savage's characters to switch bodies. Oh, my God. Oh my god. Was James wildlife just a fan of that. Okay, so the Society of Psychical Research in England researched this case long before the Warrens and was determined as, quote, recurrent, spontaneous psychokinesis, unquote gross and Playfair moved into the house at one point and investigated this case for over a year. The Warrens showed up and stayed. For only a couple of days, and I remember seeing an interview with one of these guys, and he said that Ed had pulled him aside and told them, if they all played their cards right, they could make a lot of money on this case. Sounds about right. Dirtbag. Some have claimed that the real Janet Hodgson is a gifted ventriloquist or has the power to manipulate voices, and she admitted to faking some events. I love this kind of stuff. She revealed that around 2% of the haunting was phony, specific that is wildly specific, 100 things that happened, two things I made. And finally, let's see, no not. Finally, James Wan was offered a quote, life altering amount of money in order to wreck the Fate of the Furious. However, he turned that opportunity down to direct this film. Instead, he said, I feel rejuvenated to tell a scary story one more time, one more and finally, hold the phone. The Wikipedia entry of the Enfield haunting goes as such, in August 1977 single mother, Peggy Hodgson called the Metropolitan Police to a rented home at 284 Green Street in Enfield, London, saying she had witnessed furniture moving and that two of her four children had heard knocking sounds on the walls. A police constable reported witnessing a chair, quote, wobble and slide, but could not determine the cause of the movement, unquote and later claims included disembodied voices, loud noises, thrown toys, overturned chairs and children levitating over a period of 18 months, more than 30 people, including the hodgsons neighbors, paranormal investigators and journalists, said they variously saw heavy furniture moving of its own accord, objects being thrown across the room, and this is the sisters seeming to levitate several feet off the ground. The story was regularly covered in the Daily Mirror newspaper until reports came to an end in 1979 Wow, that okay. At what point are you not just like, I'm gonna move you know, especially if you have kids that are, they do a nice job of before they show the family showing London in the 70s, and it's easy to forget how fucking poor everybody was. I mean, everybody was poor, but still, yeah, I agree. Go to a council block so far, like, come on. I agree. It is one of the frustrating things about any haunted house thing. But, you know, it's not like, like, if something happened here, I could pack everything up in a weekend and be gone. Yeah, I think that when you've got three kids and and you know, your job is barely covering the rants and all that shit, you get kind of into a state where, I mean, as humans, we can fucking adapt to anything. And I guess if you're broke and you've got a ghost, you'd be like, Oh, I guess this is my life now. It's not killing us. So, yeah, in fairness, I have a friend who's a producer who moved into a house in I think it was like the Magnolia area. It was haunted, and they just bought the house, and they weren't able to just, like, turn around and do anything else with it, so they ended up having to get, like, somebody to come and exercise it. So wow, yeah, he won't talk about it like he will not talk about there's like, a online report that he'll just share the link to people because he's, like, too paranoid about it. But I'd like to see that link that I would do. That's why it's somebody you and I both know as well. I don't want to say girls. That's fair, yeah, just whisper it in the microphone. That's right. Nobody else will hear the this movie frustrated me just a little bit, because it was so good, and then it kind of became an action movie at the end, which I was like, Okay, you went a little far, but man, the and that's, and that's just a small part of it, most of it. This is really, a really well done ghost story, yeah, and you forget that those first two movies, the Warrens are only kind of the heroes. That's really about the families, and the Warrens come in at the beginning, and then they come in for the middle of the second act. It's all about this family going through their shit, just out of curiosity. So with all the nun stuff with this movie, was it because they knew they were making the nun, I think that they were just probably setting up the next movie without realizing that. I don't think anyone could have said, you know, oh, by the way, we're going to make, you know, half a billion dollars on this movie. Yeah. So that then became, well, what can we do now? We can fucking do an entire new franchise, right? Let's make a nuns. I heard none too is good. Maybe we'll see this. Sometimes it's not that good. It's got a great nun monster at the end, though, that's true. Will it be more difficult or easier for me to watch having grown up Catholic? That's my big question. Oh, well, you already hate everybody in that movie, so it should be fine. Oh, perfect. Great. I don't remember liking the nun. I remember liking the nun too, just because of the ending. I was like, oh my god, it's a fucking nun kaiju. I. Yeah, more energy. Okay, guys, I think that that means it's my pick for the next up genre. I have something in mind, and it is called fire, or, as I like to say, fire. Oh, so, so the first one is, like, you're at a kiss show, and that's hot to gone off this little fireplace, and that's just it. I'm glad you said that, Eric, this can be a campfire. This can be the cannons going off and Brian Johnson screaming fire at the end of a concert. Anything that has fire in it, you decide shit that's that's a wide amount, yeah, well, trying to be good to us, kind of a stoner all over again. Oh, goodness. Okay, so that brings us to the point where we like to say thank you to everybody's liking and sharing the posts, I haven't been naming everybody lately, but it's not because I don't love you, it's because I'm hungover. He just woke up, people. He's very tired. But obviously Bob and Ron and Danny and all the usual wonderful people and a couple couple folks have popped up recently. We should add, maybe add to the list, real badger, yeah, or on the talk page posting all kinds of wild talk pages kind of taken off the I did like the post you did about the what two movies would you watch with all the sword and sorcery films? Yeah. I mean, if you don't know what we're talking about, we have a Facebook page called strange eons radio talk, and it's just people talking about horror movies and every thought movie. Turns out, you can also reach out to us on the strange eons radio hotline, which is 253-237-4266, please leave a message for Vanessa, and that's it. I'm lonely. Adult interaction. Give me a human All right, gang, that is it. I have a book that's out. Thank you very much for the people who are reading it and revealing it so nicely. We will be back in seven short days, and we are talking fire, see you next Thursday. 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