291 ROCK THAT BODY HORROR!

291 ROCK THAT BODY HORROR!
Kelly rails against politics. Fun game idea: decide which glass of wine he should have stopped at!
Also discussed: The Substance, The Deliverance, Nothing But A Good Time.

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Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition. We have such sights to show you. Strange eons. Welcome to strange eons radio for the second time because we weren't recording the first time. That is Eric somewhere over there. Hello, and that is Vanessa somewhere over there or down there. Hello, and I am, Kelly, you guys were doing a zoom call because I had a wedding I had to go to this last week. Vanessa, you had something that was going on also, yeah, I did actually go to Long Beach for two days. Oh, not California, Washington, okay, yes, the lesser of the two long beaches, big beach. Well, I've been to Long Beach California. It's not that great. Well, it sucked, because every time I looked up restaurants to go check out, it was like, oh, 4.5 stars in California. Oh, damn it, right across the water, right across from lovely San Pedro. How was the wedding drinking? You guys? I don't want to say too much about it, because I think some of my family members listen. Oh, however, I have learned a lot about the people in this wedding, and probably stuff I should not have learned, and why was any of that information in the vows? That's all I will say. Oh shit, that's all I will say about that. However, I did abscond with one of the bottles of wine, which does not taste nearly as good when you start with it. I I started with the wine after several cocktails, and I was like, Oh, this isn't bad. And and now I'm like, Oh, this is quite bad. We're at the beginning of October as we record this. We've got a lot of stuff coming up. We've got the Lovecraft film festival coming up with it, which Eric and I attend every year for the last 45 years. And I'm doing my first reading there. I hope that if you're down there, we'll come and see that also. I must say, as I do every every four years, do not let politics get in the way of your family. Everybody. Just remember, you love your family. You don't love your politicians. We need to change our relationship with our politicians. If we have to have you, we will have you, and if you don't do the job, we will hang you. That's how it should be. There's, you know, there's a giant machine out there that is trying to get us to hate each other. If they're on a marginally opposite spectrum of we all actually 99.9% of the stuff we actually do agree on, they're just finding those little things we vastly disagree on. Yeah, I don't know about you guys pulling on us, it's I've got, I've got members who are hardcore on both sides, and I get along with them all the time, except when there is a presidential election and it's like this. This stuff does not matter. It does seem like we are in the middle of world war three. So that's fun. There is that effect on their lives, yeah, but that's that's all yelling at each other and all that shit, and slightly off east, and still, a lot of these countries have nukes, and all it takes is somebody to say, I got enough of this shit, and then a nuke goes off, and We all get to die from radiation poisoning. That's a buy. Am looking forward so much to dying, and the sooner, the better, but not by radiation pose. That is the slow, bad way to go. Awful, awful. Yeah, by a crazed fan would be my preferred. Oh, wow, that'd be interesting. No, I'm reading this weekend at the Lovecraft don't pass, or call the hotline, then leave us a message. You would like to be that fan. You guys, it feels like I haven't spoken to you in weeks and weeks, even though I think it's probably like the normal amount, or maybe one day later, or something like that. I've seen a lot of shit. Hold on before we start. Oh, we've got another film festival, festival, festival acceptance from the wonderful Tri Cities Film Festival and Eastern Washington. Very nice. That's awesome. One of the festivals to first show our shorts. Many, many. Three years ago, that's right. Oh, and we got an award. Oh, wait, I'm pretty proud of this one, because it's something Kelly, you and I have talked a lot about being part of the problem of most of our shorts, not all, but most. And at scum dance, we won for Best Cinematography. Yeah, that makes sense. That's good. I love that's good. Thank you, Stefan. I haven't told him yet, but I will. But yeah, I read that because our stuff is always it looks fine. Some of it look good. You know, that's why Stefan was called again. But some did not content is I can't believe, but I can't believe you fucking held off telling me this until this episode found out today. I thought you had said scum dance doesn't hand out awards. I had no idea. Apparently, they do a bunch of them. So that is so much fun, please. Okay, so I know that this episode airs very quickly this Thursday, and then we got to announce that somehow, did we get some kind of olive branches sending out a laurel kind of thing here in the next few days? So I'll put it up. Oh, that. That warms my black heart. That is really nice, yeah, especially for Stefan, who, as we know, was really slumming with us, yep, and that is amazing. He he deserves all the awards. As far as, yeah, he's sending something too. So whatever he sends, I'll see if I can get Stefan to accept it. Yeah, I'm sure he's got a shelf of awards, yes. But you know now the Tri Cities Film Festival, I believe, is at the end of this month, which is October of 2024 right now since October, once we get the dates for sure, I'll for if I can find out when we're screening, I'll put that up. If not, it's a fun festival. Really well run. So are we going? I don't know, depending on when it is. I mean, it's not that far away, I know, but neither is bleedingham, and I haven't gone there for ever. Also, it's it's a mountain pass away, and who knows what will happen at the end of October, true. Yeah. You gotta really start watching the website and see like, how many trucks are piled up today? Yeah, it is the reality of the Pacific Northwest. All right. Anything else you want to surprise me with, or can I talk about the movies I've seen? Go ahead. All right, you guys. I watched on Netflix. I believe the deliverance, the one with the like, little boy, no, okay. Little boy, okay. I think it has what it is then it it also has Glenn Close, yes, amazing role. It also has Monique in it. It is this movie is fantastic. Tell us not, Oh, tell us not. Oh. It goes, it goes off the fucking rails in the third act, but oh no, prior to that, it is this intense family drama that you're just sitting there. The wheels are going in your head, because Glenn Close is the matriarch of this black family, and that's never explained. So you're just like, Okay, what is going on with her? Plus she's got cancer, and you see her like, without a wig at one point, and she's doing her best female female impersonation, where she's just got crazy makeup on. And I was like, this is a fucking swing for the fences, this one, and and, and then, and, I mean, I'm sucked into this. It is a, it is a possession story, and it's like a possession of an entire family story where, where this, where this black family is having a really hard time, and so they move into the house of the mother. So it's a single mom and her three kids. The dad is somewhere else, but they would like to reconcile, maybe. And then there is some real fucking antagonism between the mom and her mom, which is Glenn Close, and you're just like, God, I ain't drawn into all this. And then all of a sudden, creepy shit starts happening. One of the young kids starts hitting his head against doors. And then. That is scary enough. But then here comes the the child protection services that are like, why are your kids all bruised up? And so there's all of this stuff going on, and then it fucking just goes insane. And it's like, it's like Amityville to level insanity with with crazy possession shit, a child climbing up the wall. I sat there with a dumbfounded look the entire time this third act was going, and I was like, I did not see this going in this direction, my God. However, that being said, this is a fucking full on recommend. It is. It is so good until it's not, and then when it's not, it is like a train wreck that you have to watch. Oh, my God, so that is the deliverance on Netflix. I hope it is eligible for awards. I have no idea what kind of award this movie can can make, or it is not close. So she is so amazing in this everybody is so amazing. It's just like, at some point, I don't know if a studio got involved, and was like, Hey, we got to ramp up this ending. Because, you know, this has been slow, quiet horror the whole time. You're just going to end with slow, quiet horror. No, we need some very offensive shit at the end of this movie. And did you know that it's based on a real story? Yes, they say that. Now we all know that that's a load of shit, but they do supply photos of the people involved at the end. Maybe I don't know what to believe anymore. They could be aI pictures of people that they've just been like, here you go, I heard an NPR podcast on it, and there's, it seems like it's a real it's a real family. It's a real thing. There are a lot of moments of like, people going in and being like, Oh, this is bad. This is many of us have now witnessed this kid levitating and weird shit, so I don't know. Well, okay, well, I will call bullshit on the levitating. But if that did happen, then I would like to know more about this. I didn't see this on Ghost Hunters Vanessa, so how am I supposed to believe like, what the house looks like now and everything? And I was like, Oh, it doesn't look like a very scary house. But okay, I know it does not. The house in the movie much scarier looking. They do show a picture of the house at the end. And I was like, Oh, well, no, you would not want to make your movie look like this house. My God, well, man, okay. Well, wait, wait, wait, that's the deliverance on Netflix, because I I feel like everybody has to watch this fucking movie. It is something else. All right. Vanessa, okay, speaking of a movie that everybody has to watch because it is something else, I was kind of like in the zone because of the topic for this week, I went checked out the substance. Yeah, it is a, it is a body horror that literally, it's like somebody looked at the entire genre of body horror and went, I could one up. That's right. Hold my beer. Hold my fleshy can of beer. Hold my human talking beer. I was like, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, it is like, so indescribably batshit insane. By the time you get to the end, you're just like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know if the fuck is happening anymore. But it's great. It's all great. It's incredible. I was even kind of sitting there going, I'm not sure why we made this movie. I think, I guess I have a rough idea of why we made this movie, but I can't say for sure. I think everyone's just like, let's just have a good time. Let's just, let's just do some fucked up shit with skin. And anyway, I don't even want to say what it's about. It's just, this sounds like one. You should just, we should just let sit at least for a few few more weeks. Maybe you have not seen this. Eric, no, you will fucking love this movie. I think I will. It is everything Vanessa said. Add on some teeth and eyes that in surprising places. Yeah, I'll just say this. It is. I mean, this is body horror, but whoever this director is, and I'm not familiar with him or her, whoever this person is, they can appreciate. A beautiful ass, because I have never seen so many roaming camera shots of beautiful asses in my life. I was just like, all right, I think we're good about to have a Pee Wee Herman moment here in this theater. It's, yeah, it's incredible. And the filmmaker is the person who did revenge, which you guys might remember from a couple years ago. I'm good really, there's a nice ass in that one as well, yeah? And that is, that's a woman, right? Yes, female writer, director, yeah, yeah. So she clearly is just like you like the ass in revenge. Just wait, I have, I have 40 more asses for you. I'm the same person. It's just so i That's it. That's it. I literally couldn't describe it properly if I tried other than just, I want every single review to end with, like, but, but a workout video. You know, that's body horror, but a workout video just that's the carpenter meets, or sorry, Cronenberg meets, but workout war, yeah, it's one of those things where, I mean, clearly this is a an alternate universe, where the workout videos of the 80s continued well into present day, and those people are our biggest celebrity, somehow worthy of a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, somehow. But I didn't question any of it while it was happening, I think because it was just so weird that I was like, oh, okay, this is something. I will say this. I think that Demi Moore fucking threw herself into this role, like, with, like, no vanity, and Dennis Quaid, the same thing, he never had to show his naked body, but there are a lot of very uncomfortable close ups on his face and teeth that I was like, Quaid is clearly like, all right, show me and all of my warts. Yeah, so his is almost more cringy than her stuff, just like you look. So it looks so much worse for that actor to it's so much more vulnerable because, well, it's because, it's because he has no vulnerability as a character, and she has all the vulnerability. And so that's why it's so it's so hard when you see her. I've fucking loved it, but I it was great. Yeah, I'm the same with you. I'm just like, I guess the message is, Hollywood is horrible. Yeah. I was like, Is this Hollywood is horrible, or is this something to do with women body image? I couldn't and then I read an article, like interviewing the director, trying to really dig into it. Fangori actually put out this, like mini episode, like magazine that showed up in my mailbox, and I was like, Oh, the fuck this is. And then I read it, right after I saw the focus, I was like, Oh no. And I know what this is now. And yeah. And I think she has, like, she was like, oh, it's something I've been thinking about a long time and like she had, she has reasons. I just don't know that. That's the movie I walked away from. I was like, I I don't know. Man, it's just fucking insane. If there's like, a deep message here about I don't know, the way we see ourselves, that's not necessarily. It's got a lot going on. You guys should check it out. Man, I don't even care, Eric, if you and I had made this movie, we'd walk away from this gun. We are so proud of this movie. It is bonkers, and you can't you can't quantify it, really at all. But I feel like whatever is going on was on purpose. So I just, I just absolutely loved it. So, Eric, I don't know if it's showing around you anymore. You got to see this. You are going to, you're going to walk out of there going, all right, well, what's my next body horror film going to be? Maybe don't eat a lot before you there's, there's a little bit of gruesome stuff going on. Okay, yes, I'm talking about the movie. You're not going to talk much about it. And another thing. Anyways, uh, watch the Paramount plus mini event documentary, whatever, nothing but a good time. Yeah, 80s metal. I'd read the book about a year ago. It's pretty damn good book. And just like the book, they just kind of cover all. Kinds of shit. It is not a super deep dive, but it has a lot of really interesting stuff, nonetheless, lot of guns and roses. But there was a quote in it that hit me that, yeah, Kelly had his old man rant earlier at the show, so I'm gonna have a little bit of an old man rant here. The one I tried to find the guy's name out, but that was one of the criticisms I had to the documentaries, they didn't put people's names up often enough, you know, I Okay, fine. You have to put up Nuno Betancourt every time he shows up. Or, yeah, any of those kind of guys. But how about the guys who are the managers and producers and our reps? Let's put their names up at least two or three times an episode. So one of the guys who was one of the managers or producers for Guns N Roses had a great quote when somebody asked him, How did you get the band to sound so menacing and evil when you recorded them? And I think this explains why the modern music industry is in a lot of trouble in what in the way new bands are coming around, especially the lack of rock bands. It's like his quote was, you get it as live on tape as possible. You look for the performance rather than the perfection. What makes for the perfect recording are the imperfections you decide to keep. And I like, I cannot agree with that more, all the stupid over auto tuning and automatic drumming and automatic timing of drumming when it's not off and all that. Just stop it. Just let these musicians. I mean, it was a little bad in the 80s, but it's ridiculous. Now. There is not a musician alive, I think that's currently popular that couldn't also be a model someplace. Yeah. Nine. So I it just love it. Just love that idea. And that's part of what, even when, even when the metal acts of the 80s got as got a little bad there at the end with, you know, like warrant and cherry pie and some of those albums, but a large portion of that was a lot more raw than I think people believed it to be. And so it's really interesting, not, not a lot of new stories that, Oh, I'd never heard that about so and so. But probably because I read the book, right, I have questions. I really want to see this, because obviously, this is my era of music. What is the point of the documentary? Are they saying that this was, you know, too much excess, or these guys weren't real musicians, or what? No, not at all. It's a time capsule. It's just so this is what was happening in an era of music that's singular. I mean, it's truly a unique era of music. And in addition to the the way music is produced now the way music is sold, when somebody says, well, Drake has sold more than blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, No, he hasn't. Because all you got to do is go press a button. Oh, I've got Drake's music. Yeah, when we wanted to get the latest motley crew album, we got in our car, drove down to local store, picked it up an hour. If you wanted to single you pick it up that way, but so you're talking millions less people were able to do that than are able to go so I think the comparisons of sales to anything pre iTunes and Spotify is just ridiculous, because it's a totally different world. But so it's a, it's a loving look at this era. Yeah, okay. I mean, it doesn't, doesn't gloss over too much, but it also doesn't dive too deep in the debauchery of some of the stuff. Was there a band you were shocked to see they talked about, because I know that I, I like a lot of those bands, but I like also a lot of the, the sillier and stupid almost. I mean, I fucking love danger, dangers second album, right? You know, so there's, there's shit like that. Every once in a while that pops up on on a website that I'm like, oh, somebody else like this as well. So was there any the closest band? Probably that wouldn't be in the general everybody knows about was Hanoi rocks. They talked a lot about them for obvious reasons. I guess that's a Motley Crue episode there. It's. It. So this is three episodes. You said, Yeah, on paramount, plus, yeah. All right, I gotta go. I have shit to do tonight. And watching all three, let's talk movies. All right. All right, okay, that sounds awesome, and it just called nothing but a good time. Yep. Cool. I was going to talk about the Zack Snyder Twilight of the Gods animated thing on Netflix, which I'm fucking loving. But since nobody brought it up, I'm going to talk about apartment seven a oh, just watched it. Okay, this is not what you were going to talk about next, right? No, okay, apartment seven, eight is the prequel to Rosemary's Baby. Okay? Jennifer garden, she is amazing. I was actually quite blown away, because, literally, the only thing I know her from is Ozark, and she plays so far away from that character that I was, yeah, I was like, Oh, wow. That character was all an act amazing. You deserve every Emmy you got this movie, however, Eric, which you've also seen, I assume, yes, ah, 100% unnecessary, sure. But on top of that, also incredibly boring. Oh no, that's what I thought. It really itching to talk about this one. Well, I reason I didn't put it on my list to talk about is because I knew you would, because it's right in that, you know, that sweet spot of your fucking I love Rosemary's Baby, the old man, all that shit is my thing so. But I, even when this was announced, I was like, I don't think I need to prequel the Rosemary's Baby. Yeah, yeah, I was right. Is it like a prequel in so much as they talk about the space or the characters that are in the building, is it is in the same building, and it's got a lot of the same characters, and it is about a dancer who has had a horrible accident, and then she runs into these people, and much like Rosemary's Baby, they build her up and up until, you know good shit is happening to her and all that stuff also, she is raped by the devil, and she's going to have, not In 1970s style, it's fairly innocuous. It is. It is, but I will say it's set in 1967 and a half, or whatever, and it looks really cool because I know how much I love that era. So the cars and the dress and the makeup and the decor, everything is very true to that first movie, but at the end of it, it's like, well, we know how this woman ends up. That's literally the beginning of Rosemary's Baby. So there's, there's no tension with her character, yeah. And if you are kind of familiar with how story works, you know how she's going to end up that way. Because, I mean, the only thing with me, Eric, was that she didn't make the leap that caused the injury as her leap out the window, which is spoilers for a 50 year old fucking movie, 55 year old movie, she throws herself out of a window at the end, and I thought for sure she was gonna perfectly make that leap out the window. That's how I would have written it. All I knew about this movie, literally, was Rick saying, I think it was Rick Texas saying, Hey, I'm watching this. Or it was John, somebody say, I watch this. Pretty cool, like, Okay, I watch it. And I knew nothing about it. I did not see a trailer. I did not know it was a rosemary berry baby prequel. A little ways in I'm going is this some kind of a weird remake of Rosemary's Baby, which, to be honest, it works a lot better as if you watch it as sort of a reimagining of Rosemary's Baby till the end. Oh, yeah, okay, but okay, it's different enough it started that that that worked in my head a little better. If I known it was a prequel, I would have, like you said, known what the ending was going to be, and a whole lot of stuff there, but I just thought it was a reimagined so then you watch it today, and at the end, you still didn't realize it was a prequel. You just the end, I was like, okay, oh, right. What was this available on, plus original woes or and for wisdom on others? Yeah. With some, with some really great actors involved in really nice production value and all of that stuff. It feels very much like they, they fucking put this out there, very proudly. There is like paramount, plus proudly presents the prequel that nobody has ever asked for, apartment seven, eight, the title also a little lackluster. I mean, if, if we're coming up on the end of the world, as it seems like we are, and then historians, 100 years from now are piecing everything together. They're gonna be like Rosemary's Baby. It sounds amazing. Apartment seven a better. This also sounds amazing, I guess. What are these fucking titles? Anyway? I didn't love it as always, your mileage may vary. There are really nice performances. Diane Weiss does a really, really nice job. But just in the end, I was like, you guys, we, I mean, we got the first Omen this year. We've got this now. And it's like, all right, how about just a new story? I would just love a new fucking story so paramount. Bless What do you got? Vanessa, well, I checked out Disney's new banger, which is Agatha all along. Did either of you see those small Oh, yeah, you know me, and Marvel I have, I know you cut it out, so I hate watch everything now. So yeah, it's every challenge your banger label, 12 mile pilot. But I actually, you know what, I liked it. I thought, okay, aside from maybe the first half hour, the first episode, which I didn't enjoy because I didn't care about the police procedural, like knockoff version, I just, I don't like that genre at all. Anyway, I do not want to watch NCIS, or, you know, SVU, or whatever the fuck I don't I'm not into it. So them doing a version of it where I was like, okay, but then once it gets into the witch stuff, I was, like, kind of surprised that they went a little bit darker and harder than I thought they were going to. Um, have you? Are you all caught up at this point? Kelly, or so, I think three episodes, yeah, I've seen them all. I'm right there with you with that first half hour of the first episode, I was just like, this is not working. And then when I figured out what was happening, yeah, I was like, this is still not working. This is bad and and I, I'm not enjoying it at all, and I'm I'm just more angry because I like everybody involved. Yeah, I really Catherine is one of the snarkiest, best actresses on the planet. Aubrey Plaza, of course, the gal who I can't remember from that 70s show, yeah, popping up unexpectedly, yeah. All these people I just want to love. I'm just like, give me more of them, because this is what I love. And then this show, I'm like, No, I am not loving this. And listener, if you're not aware, this is a sequel to wandavision, and it is still Wanda vision like that's the thing that I was also surprised about. Is in the first episode you actually start in Westview, you have a lot of the same people that we've seen before. It's a continuation of that TV style. So it actually does really continue that arc in a in a way I did not expect it to. I thought I was going to absolutely hate this show, so I was pretty pleasantly surprised that Catherine Hahn was playing this, to me, quite unlikable character, but she's so gives herself into it that I was, I don't know there was some, there was some edges in there that I do really like, and it has the kid from heartstopper. I think, I'm pretty sure it's the kid from heartstopper, but he's normally British, yeah, and he's usually got, like, the big unibrow, and that's kind of what he's known for. But I was like, Oh, hey, you can act, you can act like, I don't like that show, because I really like the comic. So I was like, I fucking hate the show, but he's, he's really good in this and I like the mystery that's being set up. I think we're gonna see a lot more of Opry Plaza, because so far we've seen very, very, very, very little of her, yeah, and I don't know, the witches road is interesting. I think, I think they pin pinned down one. Wine culture. Lady, wine culture very well in the third episode, How dare you, it's pretty spot on. It's like if you walked into like Martha Stewart Living Magazine. But sauced, I'll say that. That young actor is amazing. He's very he's he's the one I have glommed on to. Never seen him before. I was just like, Well, why? Why do I like this character so much? Yeah, but I, I don't know. I guess I just want, I don't know. I really enjoyed the werewolf by night special was that two years ago now, and and I kind of love that, that Disney's willing to do like a spooky, yeah, superhero show at Halloween time. But this one is just not working for me, and I'm I'm angry at them, because they've packed it full of people I like. Well, one thing that maybe you might appreciate about it is how much of it is tactile, rather than CGI like. The sets are all sets like the there's very, very little CGI there. I heard an interview with Catherine Hahn, and she was talking about how all the leaves on the witch Road, they're all hand cut, like somebody sat there fucking cutting these leaves. So everything feels very like Dark Wizard of Oz, like it's, it's definitely got that vibe to it. Yeah, we'll see. Well, you know, law and orders all real too, you know. And it's a real cities also one of it's all my favorite shows. Every goddamn show is in like, the same three. It's all real. And every time it's a teenager who got by somebody who was it, who knows. Fucking hate that show. Well, anyways, it's fine. I will say, I will say, Oh, what was I going to say? Something about this out of my head. It was something about this show is right out of my head. Eric, well, you know, you don't have to hate watch Tulsa's back on. You can watch that. That's still okay. Are you loving Tulsa? Oh, yeah, okay. So good. But the show I'm talking about, the movie I'm talking about is another one recommended by a friend of ours. And you know, if you want to recommend a movie to me during the 100 Days, it'll often get watched quickly. 1987 blue monkey. I love blue monkey. This is a pretty good film. It's incredibly well written. It could have really benefited from a larger budget and some stronger casting. But I tell you, man, if you love the esthetics of an 80s looking movie, this is one of the most 80s looking horror films I've seen a long time. Just the lighting style, the way it's shot, the way people move. I mean, it's like, wow, was this a first watch for you? Yeah, yeah, I never seen this one. Now I'm offended, because I know I've picked this as one of my picks for one of our sub genres, and I would have thought I would have sold this movie that so much that you would have been like, I need to watch this immediately. You probably talked about the entire recommended Bronzo. No, this was Craig. Oh, yeah, right, okay. Well, listen, hey, because he called to marry him, he called it like a great Craig movie, and you liked it. So he was stunned, which is understandable. Well, I see how I rate I do like it. It has literally nothing to do with a blue monkey. No, wait a minute, the title is an amazing amount to do with, like, weird, giant insects. How come this wasn't your giant insect movie? I wish it had been. Watches go. Man, should have watched this. What did you see that on? Uh, tubie, yeah. Wow, that's on Toby, that used to be that used to be impossible to see, and now it's on to be somebody remastered it. I don't know if it's vinegar or arrow or somebody remaster, because it looks really good, okay, because I have a very bad version of it, a VHS copy from blockbuster, probably something like that. Yeah, I love that they did that. This is the one that has the the wild Halloween party at the end, right where everybody's dressed up and then this shit is going down. No, is that not? I'm. Uh, Craig, so remember them chasing the giant bugs at the end? There might be a Halloween party. I think there's a wild Halloween party. I think there's a wild Halloween party, and everybody is dressed up in these costumes that are way too good for a Halloween party. I was just like everybody at this fucking college is into paper mache and creating art. Oh, you're thinking of your blending films. It's a different it's a different monkey movie, but it has an actual monkey in it, but just at the start, and they're playing DND, this one's like at a hospital I've been drinking. The one Kelly's thinking of is that a university. I can't I'm trying to remember the name of it, but, yeah, it's not monkey shines, but it's something like that. It's one of those feeling a little flush. Now, that's good. That's good. Should we take a break? If we dealt with this, maybe we can take a break. I can get a little water in me, and then when we come back, We're going to be talking about body horror, body wrap. Rap, body, rap, musical instrument turns you into the hottest sound around. He comes with his own speaker or plug it into any scenario. The hottest sound around is you the hot sound around is you and we have returned. Oh, my God, I'm having such a good time today. It's the one. Love you both. So much. I was talking to the wine Vanessa, did you not see the glass there, edging into frame at all times? Listen, Eric, yes, this was your sub genre pick. You want to tell us what we're talking about? Yes, yes, we're talking about body horror. Things being forced. Now, that sounds wrong, messing with bodies in ways. That's David Cronenberg would be the best example of what a body horror film can be. There we go. Excellent. So mine will start with a much older body Horror from 1960 Whoa, Eyes Without A face. You Have either of you seen this one? Yes, I have that timer going. I Well, are you ready? Yes, I said, Well, shit, okay, Jesus Christ, 10 minutes. Wait five. Five minutes. Five minutes. Hold on a second. Eric, you cheating bastard. How dare you? Thank you. Vanessa, anyways, this is French. So here goes my pronunciation. Life again, oh, god George, a French who did Shadow Man Thomas the imposter, spite, spotlight on a murderer. Jean redone, who like a hair in the suit. Back to the wall. Hold on, those are the writers. I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm trying to go fast stupidly. The director was George A the writer was Jean ridon. The second writer was Pierre boullo, who wrote the novel it's based on, and also the novel for Diabolique, which is a fantastic French film, not the remake the original. And Thomas narciac was a writing team with Pierre, so they both wrote the novels acting Pierre brasser, who was in the most wonderful evening of my life. Oh, but what movies has he done? The man from Chicago, and 151 other credits, uh, Aldo villa, who is in the third man. She was in the third man. Suspiria as Miss Tanner, Lisa and the devil. 137 credits. And Juliet MonEl, who's in dog lay afternoon Bluebeard at assassination in Rome. Okay, so this basic story of this film is there's a surgeon who caused an accident which leaves his daughter's face fully disfigured, and he goes to stream lengths to get her a new face. The extreme lengths are removing other people's faces and trying to craft it onto his daughter. Yes, one weird thing about this film is the music is a little bizarre. It's almost circusy, and it's used for several times as a suspense cue. So I'm like, kind of pulling me out of this pretty fucking good movie, the surgery scene. Oh, Jesus Christ. It is staggeringly graphic for 1960 it's black and white, so there's no blood. But I swear it's a five to eight minute scene of him lining this lady's face, cutting along the line, cutting along the eyes, sticking tools underneath to pull the skin up. It's like, oh my god. Keeps going and going, but sure is effectively well done. Say it kind of gets a little slow in the middle, but not too bad. But damn, does it end well, the ending is awesome. And since we're being less talking about the the Watson stuff, I put down thoughts on what I film, The feel the film is trying to do, and I think it's a powerful, incredibly well made film about identity, self, identity, emotional detachment from who we are as a person, and sorrow at the loss of who we think we might Be while fighting to regain a sense of self. And I gotta tell you, highly recommend it if you're in the Seattle area. This is playing at the Egyptian for Scarecrow, another scarecrow with Sif, and I think it has like three screenings. So if you're in the area, I would go check it out. And the I'm just going to say the tagline, and then I'm going to quickly move on to something else. Tagline, beautiful windhams were beautiful. Women were the victims of his fiendish facials. To avoid the problem of European censors, they were told. The studio told the writers not to include much blood which would upset French sensors, refrain from showing animals getting hurt, which would upset English sensors, and leave out mad scientist characters, because it upset German sensors. All three were part of the novel. Let's see. There's a little other things. Couple other quick notes, the film was cut drastically. And hey, the surgery scene was one of the main things cut. And interestingly, a scene was trimmed of the doctor where they tried to make him seem more likable, was trimmed down because, you know, he has to be evil in 2003 it was in a fully restored and released in theaters. And John Carpenter once suggested that the mask in this movie that the daughter wears was kind of his inspiration for Michael Myers mask, yeah, so I have questions. Oh, yeah, first, what did you watch this? On, hold on think I've got it written down here. I know it's available via criterion, right? Because it's a it is a disc. Yeah? I don't have, well, I have the disc, but it's packed somewhere. I watched this on max. It's available on max. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay, that's cool. That's cool. Why this film? I mean, we're talking body horror. You went like, back to the very first body horror. It's pretty early one, just because I've had this in collection for a long time, it's one I've heard a lot of good things about and wanted to watch for a while. Okay? And started to watch at one point, and didn't return to for a long time. Just, you know, the way that works sometimes. Popped up on a search with body horror films. Yeah, finally finish it. I'm glad I did, because I really did like this film a lot. Okay, so this was a, basically a first watch for you. There was probably something else. But, well, there's an interesting thing with the when the film was originally released, of course, it was vilified and attacked by critics. Uh, film critic for the English. English film critic was for the spectator, was reprimanded by his bosses for writing a positive review. Oh, gosh, wow, damn they were all wrong. This is awesome. Okay, I'm putting this on the list. I like this. Vanessa, you ready? Yes, I think so. I'm putting only five minutes on for you. I gave Eric 10, I get it. So I went with 1979 movie, the brood. I they come from the unknown, and they're here now, hiding waiting to strike. You can feel their presence all around you. Never before have you come this close to the edge of terror? Never before have you faced anything so strange and sinister, so bizarre and unnerving. Never until now. David Cronenberg, the brood, are you ready for me, Frank, I seem to be a very special person. Now I'm in the middle of a strange adventure. I want to go with you wherever you go, to him. Look the brood. You can run, you can hide and hope they won't find you, but you won't escape once unleashed, the brood will destroy anyone who gets in their way. David crudenberg's ultimate experience in inner terror, starring Oliver Reed and Samantha agar the brood They're waiting for you. This is, of course, a David Cronenberg joint. I just really might as well go body horror. Go classic master body horror. This one cost 1.4 million Canadian and made 5 million. So it actually was a successful film, which I was curious about, because it feels like one of his earlier films. It's just very early, low budget. It just, you can feel the edges on it, written and directed by David Cronenberg, who, of course, 47 credits, including scanners, video, drum, dead zone. On the fly, Naked Lunch, crash, existence, most of which we have already done on the show starring art Hindle. 188 credits, including Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Black Christmas and Porky's Oliver Reed. 122 credits, including Oliver women in love the devils, Three Musketeers and Samantha Egger, 103 credits, including Dr Doolittle, the voice of Hera Hercules and the legend of Prince valiant 65 ups. So the story is a man is really worried about his young daughter who comes back from a visit with his estranged wife. They're probably in the process of getting divorced. I don't think she's officially his ex wife. She comes back covered in scratches and bruises, and his wife is actually staying in a psychiatric unit, so there's a good chance that she has done some harm to this girl. The place also practices this weird new age psychiatry, where the wife is under this intensive care from a very famous psychiatrist. He's a very 70s like hokey poker music, using outlandish practices of therapy, including one that we see where he does this sort of live theater style production where he acts out the bad people in various patients' lives, and does these sort of conversations in front of audiences. Again, very, very Cronenberg, the man Frank, tries to figure out how to get custody of his daughter and protect her, but as a father, he has no rights compared to a child's natural mother. So he begins to investigate the psychiatrist, trying to find a way to bring him down so that he can get the kid into a safe space. Meanwhile, his ex wife, nola's mother, so his mother in law, is watching the daughter and then attacked and killed by strange, small creature, not a child, maybe a midget, hard to tell, followed by uh, nola's. I know I'm the correct Well, it's a monster, though, so I don't know what do we call small monsters that are deformed midgets? Quite clearly, I don't know what the right term is, and I don't think I'm wasting your time? Yes. Okay. Anyway, Ben nola's father is killed by the same kind of creature, and then candy his daughter's teacher, who he happened to be potentially flirting with. So there's a weird kind of people who are close to his ex wife start to get knocked off Candy's then kidnapped, and Frank, the father, has to work together with Dr Hal Raglin, the crazy psychiatrist, to find out who's taking his daughter and how to get her back. Um, this film, it doesn't have as much body horror as a lot of Cronenberg's pieces, but at the end, it goes hard. It's cool. So spoiler alert, the wife is manifesting through her emotional psychic these children that are spotting off of her into these sacks that are growing on her. And she always wears these, like flowy clothes. So she just kind of lifts up her shirt and there's just this sack, and then she starts eating it, like the little baby pops out. And she's had many, many of these, and then they grow and are become incredibly strong, and they kind of do her will, and she might actually not be aware that they exist, slash, that she's controlling them. It's It's interesting. It's interesting. It's very Canadian. A lot of cold snow suits and that's fun. A lot of Canadian accents, and more, sort of late 70s, early 80s, men versus women rights, stuff that you over children that that's kind of fascinating so early. I do want to give a very small amount of trivia. David krenenberg wrote the film following a tumultuous divorce and child custody battle he waged against I know Margaret hindensen. Krenenberg also said that Samantha Eggers character Nola, possessed some of his the characteristics of his ex wife, hopefully not the ones where she's the kid might be getting beat by anyway. Oliver Reed was arrested by Canadian police during the production of this film after he made a bet with someone that he could walk from one bar to another without wearing clothes in the freezing cold weather in some countries, this is called chromosome three, but it got very confusing to people because they thought it was the third film in a series, just not. And the trailer for this movie was put together by Joe Dante. So there you go. Cool. Fucking Oliver Reed. I know. Yeah, that guy in all his glory. So this is a movie I haven't seen since I was a kid, and I hate to admit it, but as a kid, I didn't love this movie. It was too much. Sure I didn't get it. You're telling me, as an adult, you really enjoyed this? Well, I remember really, really liking this movie, and for a long time thinking it was one of my favorites of carnivor, but I couldn't, it's been so long, and I was like, I really need to re watch this film and check it out and see if I still dig it. And it's, I think it's interesting. It feels very different than a lot of his films. It's very linear. It has a very linear narrative structure in a way that a lot of his stuff doesn't. It doesn't feel nearly as dreamlike or surreal. It feels more traditional horror. And I like the creatures. I think that they're cool, I think they're interesting, but it is a lot of like family drama. It takes a long time to get where we're going, so I don't know. I think it's probably more like past maybe it's still in the top five for me, but I don't know it's it's interesting. I think it's cool, and I think it's worth checking out, but I don't know that it's what it is best. I'm gonna make you look back at your notes. When did this come out? 1979 Okay, so this is before the, what was the one that's at the high end apartment complex that I did? I think it's after, yeah, I think it's after that. I thought that was earlier, yeah, rabbit and rabbit, yeah, yeah, rabbit and what's the other one? They're in shivers. They're both shivers. Yeah, before, so it's rabbit is 75 oh, okay, sorry, it did a weird thing on here. Okay, um, yeah. Shivers is 75 rabbit is 77 and the brood is 79 and then after the brood, the next one, directly after scanners, he starts his run, which makes sense, because it's also very, you know, we start to get more and more into that psychiatrist stuff. So, video, drone, dead zone fly. I mean, he really takes off. So this was, you can tell he's getting some shit out of his system with this one. But how interesting. Then for shivers. Then he goes into a smaller story, yeah, well, yeah. Well, shivers is before this. So that's what I mean. So shivers is this? This apartment? Oh, sure, insane. Oh, brings it down into a Yeah, no, I think, I think you're right. Like, that is pretty fascinating, and like maybe the bigger budget moments for him, that the psychiatry complex does feel like that, almost like a weird hippie. It's not carnian, but it feels like a space, and the kids playground feels like a space, but still, it's not nearly as Yeah, you don't have as many characters being juggled around. You're you're definitely in a smaller set of people. Final question, yeah, you, you kind of like this. You, you liked it more the first time you saw it, and now you're like, Yeah, I still like it. I think it's cool. I think it's a really cool reveal, and I like the basic story, but it takes a long time to get where it's going. Like, there's a lot of build up, and there's a, I can see why you wouldn't like it as a kid. There's just, yeah, you feel like you're really throwing that canoe down the river. Cool location. So got that's the 70s things. Whole lot of movies in the 70s where nothing happens to the last half hour, yes, and it feels very much like that, in the last 20 minutes, you're like, fuck what? But up until then, it's like I said, it has the least amount of body horror of most of his movies, up until he did, like Eastern Promises and stuff like that, but it just feels like he's doing something eventually, but it it's more about you can tell us more about the relationship and the stress of his daughter in danger and right? So, Eric, you say it was a 70s thing. I was probably 15 when I watched this. And I, I don't I do know that I liked 70s movies, but Vanessa, I'm curious now, as a parent, how it affected you, because I think that was probably what pulled me out of it. As a 15 year old, I was just like this. I have no relation to this. This is crazy. Kramer versus Kramer too, right? It is just Kramer versus Kramer. It really is. If you've seen Kramer versus Kramer, you've seen this movie, but you need, like, an egg sack, like, oh boy. Add an egg sack, oh boy. And, you know, it's got to go in the episode description. I think I would say, as a parent, like a lot of these horror films with kids, has affected me and hit me super differently. But the thing that bugged me the most out of this is when he starts taking the clothes off his daughter and seeing like Mark after Mark. That was the worst part the rest, where it's like the kid gets kidnapped by like little demon kids. I was like, Ah, it's weird. But whatever. I don't know. Actress who plays candy is very bad. I should also say so you're like, uh, do you miss her that much? She'll wander back eventually make another No, yeah. I I do think it's interesting the politics of the time where that that whole, like, fathers don't have rights, thing, you can see that stress and that tension of like, like, it's hard as a woman to want to side with a guy in any kind of parental battle situation. But yeah, it is scary. It is scary when any person feels like they don't have the ability to go into a courtroom and say, Hey, here's the facts, here's pictures, here's time dates, here's witnesses, and not have the law assist them and taking their kids and putting them in a safe space. So I don't know, fascinating, right? Hashtag, believe all men. Okay, I'm giving myself five minutes. That's even hard for me. Man I've met, and I am talking about a film from 1993 this is my time, you guys. I'm in a barf. It's called body melt. Bad, low score. Scores. Welcome to Tara's new dead end. The first phase. Second phase is gladula. Third phase is body melts. He was one healthy dude, unnaturally healthy. Now I'm talking new drugs here, right? I'm talking 90s man, cognition enhancers designed to take your mind into new intra phenomenological dimensions in Sleepy pebbles caught something deadly is happening. Target number one, one by one, no family that died. Now this be prepared. You. To be prepared Cheryl and Ryan Randy, because nothing can prepare you for the horror up until their birth, babies are the ultimate parasite the madness. What is this? A new age of human potential has gone visit your street. Got any good drugs? Come on. It Was Written and directed by Philip Brophy, who works mostly as a composer, but has three directing credits, which is this a short film called No dance, and a feature called salt, saliva, sperm and sweat. Yeah. It stars Gerard Kennedy, who has 86 credits, mostly TV, Australian television, but also Wolf Creek, two lucky miles, and the last of the knuckle men, which I assume is some kind of fingering video. Also in this is Andrew Dado, who has six credits, including Ned Cluedo and pink and the Picasso. Everything. Okay? Over the Vanessa, do not answer because next is Ian Smith. Phones, all who has 38 credits? Ian Smith, you guys, has 38 credits. One episode of The XPM, one episode of it's a date and 1721 episodes of Vanessa. Neighbors, yes, when they become good friends. All right, this movie's called body melt. You guys have not seen this? I think I have. I would suggest that you both need to watch this again. Opening credits, reads, dumb films. Present. It's so I think we kind of all know what we're in for here. Write this one down here. It then goes into a commercial about venueville, which is basically the prototype for the 15 minute cities that are in all the news right now. It's a corporation run neighborhood that has everything you need, including healthcare, food, groceries, all of that. It's a very high end from the commercial. We go into a scene that has the beautiful woman from the commercial naked with a naked man who's asleep, and she has administered some kind of glowing green drug via syringe into his body without him knowing, turns out he is some kind of whistleblower, but we don't really know what he's blowing the whistle about. Then we meet the residents of this little neighborhood. It's called homeville. It's really lovely, very nice green lawns, big houses, but you can absolutely tell that this was shot in Australia, because behind all of those houses is a landscape that is flat as a fucking board. For as far as you can see, these residents are all finding a free package from the corporation that has been delivered to their mailboxes. It is a powder that can be mixed into water, and it's a super vitamin or something like that. Then the guy who was shot up by the drug in the first scene is racing into the town to try and warn everybody, do not take this drug. But he starts to melt and dissolve as he gets there. It is pretty gruesome and pretty great, and it's really neat practical effect, because this is 1993 and of course, everybody who got the drug sees this happen, takes very little notes of it and proceeds to drink the stuff that was given to them by the corporation. So what we've got here in this movie is a evil corporation that is testing on its residents and employees, and it's all very typical 80s stuff. We're following three or four of the residents as the stuff starts to infiltrate them and change their bodies. There's a traveling businessman, two party dudes on a road trip, and a young girl who gets pregnant, and police officers who are investigating the corporation, that kind of stuff. A lot of typical ozploitation stuff going on. We're looking people with bad teeth and deformities and stuff like that. Sorry. Rob Corless, there's a strange scene where the party dudes have driven out to a farm that is also a diner, I guess. And I thought for sure I had seen this movie before. After that scene, there's a shot where the farmer has a truck that is stuck with its wheels so it can only drive around in a circle. I'm sure I've seen that somewhere else. And of course, there's some wonderfully gooey stuff happening with the pregnant woman. This movie is a ton of fun. The effects are great for how low budget it is. I had a really great time with this. Oh, I'm about to buzz perfect. Remember, and I have seen this. You have Yes, yeah, okay, once you started describing going, hold on, Australia. Oh, yes, yes. So this is available on Tubi, which is how I wash it. I have a tagline here. The first phase is hallucinogenic. The second phase is glandular, and the third phase is body melt, really quick. A couple of trivia notes here. The filmmakers initially wanted to make an anthology movie, but were unable to secure financing for it. The film was nominated for a Saturn Award and was nominated for the Best Film Award at sitkis Film Festival. Oh and Starburst magazine wrote in their review, packs more mucus, phlegm, puke, snot, slime and spit than you'd ever think possible. If that's your kind of movie, you gotta watch this. I remember it being weirdly zany and like, it is hot. Yeah, it felt really goofy and zany. It's, I can imagine you hating this. Vanessa, I did hate it. I did hate it because it's, it's kind of, it's not slapstick, but it is a little zany. It reminded me a lot of like, dinosaurs, the like, not the mom like. It reminded me a lot of that, well, probably the same era, and the film has that same look, but it reminded me, as I was watching it, of brain dead and, yeah, meet the feebles and stuff like that. It's like, it's like, way gorier than it needs to be, and, and there's like, no explanation for any of it. There's, there's a scene where these the kids who are on this road trip, they end up in this place where the trek goes around around. But. The diner is like run by again, apologies to rob Corliss, I don't want to say mutants, but I don't know even what to call them. They are the residents of the Hills Have Eyes, but they are running a diner, and it's just this weird, just one after another of people who have very bad teeth and, you know, maybe an eye that's way too big for their head and shit like that. That is not a special effect. Oh my, that is that is casting right there saying it's like a wrong turn movie, but the Australian version, yeah, and no practical effects, it's just everybody. So Kelly, what? What made you choose this one drink? Well, let me just say this, I understood the assignment. It was body horror. It was definitely, you really understood the assignment. And I was, I just looked up body horror on IMDb. This was, like, number two on the list, body melt, and it was available on Tubi. I was like, well, let's see what this is about. And I'll say this, this movie is compelling. I I started it, and then I was like, All right, you know, hot naked chick. All right, let's see where this goes. And then everything that happened afterwards. I was like, this is, this is body hoarder. Let's see what happens next. So I I did not hate this movie. I think I might have liked this movie a lot. Actually. I remember liking it quite a bit because I Australian weirdness is so bizarre. There's a scene where the the whistleblower comes into town and he's his whole plan is to like, let everybody know, do not take this thing and he crashes, because his body is literally starting to melt. But when he crashes, his neck, skin splits, and then these tentacles come writhing out. And I was like, oh, that's more than a body melt. That's a body ad. I was like, that's not a knife. And then the pregnant girl, when she's she's like, threatening to stab herself in the belly because things are not right. And her husband's like, Please do not do that. And then something shoots out of her vagina and attaches itself to his head, and he's fighting this. The knife drops out of her hand, and her Vanessa, you're gonna love this, her very pregnant belly just splits wide open, and a bunch of steam shoots out, and she dies. And the camera just goes shooting into all her guts flapping in the wind from this steep and I was like, Well, this is definitely my movie. That's definitely how childbirth works for anyone who's curious. I point that out, I assumed, I don't know, but I assumed, why would they lie? Yeah, that's why you get a free night in the well, not free, but you get a night in the hospital, no matter what, they don't let you leave immediately, because they gotta, like, take care of that business, almost literally the opposite of free. Cost a lot. Costs a lot. Yeah, now I want to talk about it. Well, here we are talking about it, body horror. Vanessa, I mean, it's just how we reproduce as human beings that's kind of a body horror. Is that for me, horrific? Horrifically. All right, guys, I had a fantastic time with this sub genre, but I should mention that Eric and I are heading to the Lovecraft Film Festival. We will be there on a regular recording day. So instead, we have an episode of The Amityville Horror podcast, show picture show, picture shot. And this time, our guest is Michael de Bronzo, yeah, and then we mean the guy that runs our phone lines, yes, of course, our secretary. We just reached out to him. Christ, do you want to be on the show? Then we are back. I don't know whose turn it will be or what? The thing doesn't matter, though, does it? Yeah, it doesn't figure that out. We'll figure that out. So next week, you're going to get a ambyville Horror Picture Show. This is the part where I think everybody, you're not going to tell anybody what we're talking about in October. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Eric, this is so funny. You mentioned this because I feel like I had to fight for this. Oh, yeah, sure, you really did kind of minjo Super. We had such a good time with Toho a couple of months ago or a couple of weeks ago, I guess is all it was that I was like, What about October? And you guys, without thinking, were like, oh, that sounds fun. So that's what we're doing. But I think that we've only got a couple of weeks of that, yeah, and I think we have, at least, we might have four episodes, but, oh, double check, that would be amazing. So we were going, we're going to be talking about Toho films in October. Yeah, I'm, I think I was resistant until I understood what you meant. It was like, What? What? No no ninjas, no more, no more vampires, whatever, or maybe ninjas, because Toho is a legit film company that has been making movies for 100 years. Yeah, MGM, six miles, yeah, yeah. So we're talking Japanese Toho films in October. Wait till you see what we're doing in November, which is not toho, oh, you wouldn't even say it's no toho, oh. Anyway. Now, yes, this is part where I think everybody, yeah, we do. 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