300

300!
The gang waxes nostalgic and looks to the future as they attempt to understand how the heck they made it to 300 episodes without killing each other!
Also discussed: Wicked, The Wild Robot, It's What's Inside.

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Have you guys talked before about, like, why you started the show and stuff like that? We can talk about that because I'm thinking about asking about it and yeah, oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition. We have such sites to show you strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons radio. That is Eric over there. Hello. That is Vanessa over there. Hello. I am Kelly, and we are here celebrating in person, our 300th episode of this fucking show, 300 so I did the math, and that means we've been doing this for 30 years. Just feel calculator there just feels like 30 years, 10 episodes a year. It's been 30 years of your life. It's been almost six years. You guys, what that is? A lot of years. Also, that's longer than high school for some people. Yeah, that's a while, especially when you considered we've never really missed a week. We had one week ahead to drop a replay, and we've done some Amityville fill ins, but that's still and I only missed one week after having a baby. So yeah, yeah, crazy. We are We are We are nuts, yeah, yeah. You think we'd be more successful, yeah, or at least better at this, the advertising thing we're, you know, we're all incredibly good at doing good, cool things, like making movies and writing books and doing a pretty good podcast, just monetizing things. Very bad at promoting the movie the books every podcast, there is a reason I don't write and direct anymore. Like, oh, I have to raise another $10,000 I have to work really hard this year. No, you guys, you're lucky. I put on pants for this could have been an interesting 300th anniversary. Well, it would have been in pajamas. This has been a really fucking hard week for me. Oh no, super depressed, complicated feelings. Everything up to the surface for some reason, not because of the the impact of the 300th episode. It wasn't good. Hope it was a spark of, oh, well, at least that'll be fun. I always love seeing you guys. You're the favorite part of my week. I think that probably it might have something to do with the fact that it's pitch black at 330 and so foggy you can't see to the end of the block? Yeah. It might have something to do with fact that I just finished the final edits on the new novel. Oh, wow. And that is always a real, really complicated emotional thing afterwards, right? Yeah, where I kind of drop into a depression, even though I'm 15,000 words into something else, there's this weird feeling that comes over me that I don't know how to describe. I'm sure there is something here with creatives who finish a project drop into depression, yeah, is it kind of like, I mean this, it's different still, because it's pretty much solo, but sort of like when you are we done editing this? Is this ready to be released, right? And then you release it and go, I don't know if it was, except, you know, you don't have anybody to bounce that off, really. It's just, yeah, I don't think it's, I don't think it's like that, because, like, for example, the connoisseur, that thing's going to have a life of a couple of years, apparently, just going to keep showing up at little festivals and doing that. And that's, that's a nice way to kind of make yourself feel like we did something all right here, because it keeps getting into festivals and stuff like that. It's just a This happened after the secret language of spiders. Also, where I, you know, I just worked so hard on something for so long, yeah, and then when it was done, it was just like, what now? Yeah, I 100% get that. It's, it's like, you just get so engrossed in and your whole life sort of gets structured around this thing. And then when that thing goes away, there's nothing in there, and you have to refill it again, and that's a really tough moment, even though it's it's so great, because you're like, I finished this incredible thing, and I'm so proud. But now I finished this incredible thing, this is also I just poured a ton of emotions into this new book and everything. And I guess I kind of thought it would be a a way for me to kind of cleanse myself of those feelings. Then at the end of it, I'm like, well, now I've just got all those feelings jumbled in my head again. Oh god. Can you say the name of it? I think I know which one you're talking it's called thorns. Yeah, I can see where that would Yeah, do that. But I'm going to try and keep it upbeat for this episode, 300 which has very little outline, like our normal ones. We're going to go around, we're going to talk about films we've seen and everything, and then after the break, we're just going to come around. Break, we're just gonna come around and kind of bullshit about the podcast. I have a feeling we'll talk about the past, probably the future, yeah, other things that we are working on. I have questions for you. Vanessa, oh god yes. Well, it's gonna be embarrassing, because I probably should have asked these questions as a friend years ago, that was going to look like I just didn't care. It's fine. I don't I don't talk unless somebody asks me anyway, so you wouldn't believe the things my friends don't know about me for our movie round robin. I'm going to talk about a couple of things that things that I really, really enjoyed, and I think we'll go three rounds this time. Does that sound cool? Just to make sure that we've got stuff to talk about. I mean, assuming that I've actually participated in three pieces of media, I should have asked what you were talking about, because I don't want to take anything from you, but I don't think you've seen anything I'm talking about. Okay, great. The first one is a rental on prime, and it is called the killer's game with Dave Bautista. Oh, cool. I don't know why nobody is talking about this movie. It's fucking amazing. I'm not gonna say it's like a good movie, but it was so entertaining. He kind of blew me away with his acting. He it's kind of a tired trope, but the style of the movie is so great that it doesn't matter. He is a hit man who has fallen in love with a woman, and then he finds out that he has this degenerative brain disease, and he's going to be dead in three months. And so to make sure that this woman who doesn't know he's a hit man, to make sure this woman is taken care of, he puts a hit on himself so that she can collect life insurance on him. Oh, my God. And of course, the night before the hit, the doctor calls up and says, This was a huge mix up. You should consider a lawsuit. And he's like, Oh, and you then, you know, him trying to to cancel the hit. And of course, the hit men are all the wackiest bunch of people. There's an entire Japanese family of sword wielders who come after him, and then two Scottish brothers who it's very funny because they they speak so thickly and so filthy, a lot of lot of cock thrown around. But it's got subtitles that never say any of the bad words. It's very funny, and it's super stylish, and I just had an absolute blast with it. And it really, really impressed me with Dave Bautista, because it is a lot of him doing physical stuff, but the stuff where he's falling in love, and where he's finding out he's sick and all that, I was like, boy, this guy's got range. Is this the new slim down Batiste? No, still, no, yeah. I mean, in fact, he looks so ridiculously large, he looks like the real version of the of the ape man from the Umbrella Academy. Oh, yeah, like he's he's sitting the Ben Kingsley is his contact, and he's talking to him. Now, Ben Kingsley is a slight man anyway, yeah. But next to Batista, he looks so fucking ridiculous. His shoulders are like this. There's no way he could actually fit in any of the sports cars that he's driving in this movie. Wow. It is a rental, and it is a 599 rental, and I had a fucking blast with it. I watched it again after renting it. Geez, I did not expect this to be so much fun. Oh my gosh, that's very cool. That is called the killers game. I'm gonna definitely check that out, especially see Dave Batista actually like doing emotional acting. That's so cool. Yeah, that's why he did the slim down stuff. He wanted to, like, get real rolls. Well, he's also 60 something old. Holy shit, you can't keep your physicality that long. How many roids does he take? Ah, well, I'm not going to say that that's a natural looking body. No, we can all just be cool about the fact that these dudes are taking steroids. It's fine. We know it might not be 60. But he's in his 50s. It's wrestling. It's not really wow. Well, speaking of surprising things. Okay, so I finished arcane, and I wasn't sure if I was going to, because it did, like I say, in season two, start to get very, very strange and jumping in time. And I was feeling kind of lost and but it did wrap up, and it got really, really, really good in the end, which is awesome. And I was like, Man, why the fuck did they have to rush the second season? I don't understand. It's still beautiful. Like, the characters are so interesting. Like, I don't get it. And then I was given a headline that it cost$250 million to make the two seasons of arcane. It is the most expensive animated. I don't know if it's show or just it must be just show in history. Yeah. Yeah. They saved no expense. Everything is painstakingly done. I guess most of that goes towards the actual art that is put into it. And Riot Games is 100% losing money on it. And they were like, We don't care. We make billions, but also maybe we don't need another season of us. Yeah, that is kind of wild to think about. So this is a it's based on a video game, right? Yes, and the company that owns the video game is also the company putting out the Yes, yeah. So, you know, it's kind of wild to think you see these gigantic box office weekends and everything. And nobody really talks about like the release of a new Gears of War is sometimes three times the size of an opening weekend for a big Marvel movie. Oh, yeah. I mean, the first project was a GTA five or six that got a billion dollars. It was the first one to just break a billion. And people like, wait, they can make that much money. Whoa, that makes sense that they would, they would be able to lose two 50 million. Go, well, we put out something awesome though. Yeah, I think that's 100% it's like a vanity project. They are really proud of what they did. They're excited to have gotten to embellish this world, and now they're like, Let's do something else, like spend a bunch of money in something else. Did it end in a satisfying way? I did. Yeah, I think it ended really nicely. I do wish that there was more episodes just to stitch together some of those pieces like it really does jump in time a few times. And you love these characters and really want to spend more time with them. So it's really sad when you're like, oh my god, that guy's power is to rewind time. Holy shit. I want to see more of that. Oh, I didn't get to see more of that. Oh no. You know, they really could have spent more time doing certain things. But in the end, I really felt like I it was a good show. It was a really good show. So well, if I know my fandom, there's gonna be a lot of fan fiction about that guy that can rewind time. So you'll have plenty of stuff to read. I'm sure I don't want to read that. I am uninterested. I will walk away at this point. But it was, you know, it was good while it lasted, and you can check that out on Netflix. Should you be so inclined? Video game version of creepy pasta? No, no. The sex stuff. I don't want to read any of the sex stuff. It's always sex stuff. If it's video game stuff, it's not only gonna be sex, it's also gonna be furry, like it's gonna be furries and sex. Because I had no idea, dude, I've been in the game industry a long time. Eric is lying also conventions. Northwest con had one at the same time or right after a very convention, oh, my god, incredible. The so I'll do a short because there's not a lot to talk about this one, the ongoing SOG of crap going on around our place is our power came back on, our cable was working 24 hours later, internet goes down, and then it's down until it's down for like three or four days, and then comes back on, and then goes out again, comes back on, goes out again. That Friday, two days ago, was the first time it stayed on all day. So it's been about two weeks. Wow, that's really annoying. It's a branch on a Comcast cable that's going no idea, but Comcast reach out and say we're giving you a break on this month's bill or anything. Not yet, but I'm going to watch for when the bill comes for the next round. Yeah, there better be it's not a fair amount. So because of that, we caught up on some interesting discs. Yeah, I have discs around physical media, my God, and we watched a one season TV show called Kitchen Confidential, which is based on the Bourdain book of the same name, okay? And guy, the star of it was. Uh, it had Zander from Buffy. Was the Oh pastry chef. That guy has work several years. This was 2005 this show came out, okay, but the guy playing the Bourdain character, who's called Jack Bourdain, whatever, Bradley Cooper, so this is a dramatic show. No, it's comedy, but, I mean, it's a drama. It's not a it's not a right? Live cooking show. No, no, this is a a retelling, okay, imagining what is like. Has an like Jamie King and John Francis daily. It's like, everybody that walked on screen, you're like, where do I know them from? And it only lasted. Somehow, it only lasted 13 episodes. It got canceled after like three, I think, from the way they were talking on one of the making house. And it's fantastic, really. It It is really fun. It's really well done. I mean, of course, it's Bradley Cooper in the lead being charming, charming and funny, yeah, and his second, Owen Yeoman is a British guy who's equally funny and charming. Is still kind of xandery and character but it's just a lot of fun, really well done. Oh shit, the owner was the 1970s Dracula, not Chris, really, no, the he did the one super sexy Franklin jello. Oh, as the owner of the thing. So it's just stacked with incredible talent, and because of the situation, found out watching it, this isn't streaming anywhere, but I think it's still available if you want to buy it on DVD, for probably not very much, because it's not popular, but if you have any interest, it is a lot of fun. It's really, really fun. Is it set up to be like a cooking show. Oh, okay, it's a restaurant. It's an operator. He's hired, uh, he's starts out he's working at a crap place because he destroyed his life with drugs and alcohol. You know, it is the right and then he gets hired to run this restaurant as a head chef. And it's what happens behind the scenes with the insulting and kidding around and fun and craziness that goes on with that, and it's just really well done, and it doesn't like you said, it's only one season. Does it feel like it ends in an okay way, or is it like a big cliffhanger? No, it ends just fine. Okay? Because I think they shot all 13 but only aired like three or four of them. Oh, okay, so it was, whoa. Didn't get a chance to just like a fox show or something, probably, when you said that, I thought this was like one of those live cooking competition shows. And I was like, Why do you have this as physical media? Why did you buy this? Was it in a discount thing? Learning something new about Eric, and it's all to be honest too. It's like I looked at go, what the hell do I have this? I mean, the cast is great. I don't know. Wow. What the hell let's see if it's good. Kitchen, confidential, okay, the other movie I want to talk about that you guys probably have not seen, and you both must see Vanessa. You should just buy this. It's called the wild robot. Oh, I want to see this so bad. So as you know, I've been having complicated feelings and everything. Wept like a fucking baby multiple times. This movie, which is a gorgeous animated dreams work, dream box film, and it is about a it's set sometime in the future, and this helper robot accidentally lands on this island that's not populated with humans, but has a ton of wildlife, and she doesn't really understand why she's there. She thinks that, you know, she's supposed to be helping, because that's what she does. So she goes around and tries to help these animals out, which do not want and are terrified by her. And she accidentally kills this, this nest of geese and kills the mom, crushes the eggs. There's one egg left. She doesn't know what she's supposed to do, but she is supposed to help. So she, you know, picks up this egg and and it, of course, hatches and imprints on her. And then she has to become the mother of this Gosling, which is all done in a way that is very cute and kind of believable, because the only thing that she is there for, that she was created to do was complete tasks. And the fox character, who's played by Pedro Pascal, of course, oh my gosh, he tells her, you know, this is your task now, to be a mom for this. And so she said. Like Bing and Okay, I will now raise this animal. And it's a heavy, heavy metaphor on how difficult it is to be a mother, and made me question how awful I've been to my mom probably growing up, and all of that stuff and all of the things that this, this robot mother does that is appreciated by a child and just a really, really beautiful movie. It is a 1999 rental right now, but just fucking buy it. It's one you're gonna watch again and it show it to your kids soon. It's probably not suitable for six to eight year olds, because it is terrifying. In some places, there's a lot of drama going on in this fucking island where everything wants to kill and eat you, and snow storms and fires and all of this stuff and but I think if you get it to a baby early enough, they're just going to be seeing all of this adventure and action. And then, you know, by the time that she understands that death is part of the life cycle, you'll be able to say, yeah, you knew that. You fucking watched a wild robot. You watched it under two. It is amazing and so fucking gorgeous. So, oh man. Well, I mean, speaking of things that I've watched with her, that definitely was a bit inappropriate, so I was tasked with seeing a film you watched. Yeah, of course, she doesn't understand what's happening. Nope, no, not at all. So one of our one of our listeners, wonderful to bronzer, I'm not familiar. Recommended. It's called what Dean night of the demon. And it's a Sasquatch film, I have to be clear, I have not finished it yet, so I will have to properly talk about it later. But I did sit her down, and we were watching it, and I'm watching things getting impaled, and this not once, but twice. Is there a guy upside down with blood dripping down his face, one of which the guy's blinking the blood out of his eye. And I look kind of over at her, and I'm like, Is this okay? And she's just like, No clue. She's like, I've never seen blood. I don't know what's happening right now. I was like, you know, it's fine. It's fine. I'm not gonna worry about it too much. But yeah, so that's that's been interesting, that kind of, where do I? Where do I draw the line? At this point, I definitely had started watching primal with her, and I had to turn it off because I was like, no, no, no, no, we can't watch this one. This is too much feelings of things. That's probably my want to wait on the one. Yeah, it was just too much. I mean, if the emotionally between the music and the scenes are giving you a sense of danger versus night of the demon, there's zero sense of danger. So far. It's so not verbal, no. So it's the language she speaks now, yeah, yeah, totally Yeah. She has, she has no clue. So that's been, that's a big plus. But I will actually finish that, that film. I swear. I swear. You know, I'd, I'll say this to Bronzo, to what end would you make this lovely, innocent human being watch this shitty movie that the three of us have already watched? I, I, it seems a bit like just a mean, shitty thing to do. I think he just wants me to understand and enjoy the things you guys are talking about. I'm on the inside Bronzo, like I know to brother. I will say there are moments where it's really weirdly well put together, considering how bad the acting and many other things are. I don't know the edits, the ridiculous death scenes that I don't know if I'm supposed to be scared or laughing, but they are hilarious. There's a moment where, like, it's pretty early on, but they go to talk to all the different people in the town to find out about this crazy woman living in the woods. And they're cutting between people having each student having a conversation with a different person in town, and it's so well done and put together and interesting. And I'm like, somebody knew what they were doing. Like this feels like good like this feels like good storytelling. And then you watch a guy in a sleeping bag get, like, thrown and impaled onto a stick like he's a rag doll. It's like, I don't know there's something I don't know what exactly. I can't put my finger on exactly what the problem is, but that smells like a second unit director who who also edited his own shots. And then, you know, the other. Stuff was done by somebody else. Yeah, yeah, yeah, possibility, too many cooks, perhaps, all right, well, white of the demon, not demon, probably on TV 1980 not 1983 as somebody perhaps told me, 1980 the I almost rented this on a Wednesday. I thought, Now I'm not so Thursday, I went back. I'll rent it now. Hey, it's on paramount, plus streaming for no rental fee. And that is smile two. Oh, good. Finally, watch that. Yeah, I went from a $20 Oh, great. I had to look up. This is, is the same director and the same writer that did the first one? Yes. So like, wow. What did you learn between these two films? Because you whatever you learned, you he learned it because it is so much the execution is so much stronger and so more. It's so much more interesting in weird ways. I mean, the other one was straightforward. I think it's more about your grief, a little bit more, but it didn't hit the when I think of grief in movies, or think of like the scene in hereditary Yeah, yeah, or the scene at the beginning of mid summer, that guy knows how to drop a little grief on screen in just a very short amount of time. And I really didn't give that a smile, but addiction smile too. Yeah, wow. Holy shit. And I liked the fact, I think you did too, but you commented, some people might be annoyed by the what's real and not what's not real. I love that shit in movies. I'm so glad you had this reaction to it. You still have not seen it, right? I actually just watched it as well, and I had the exact same feelings. I was like, This is so good. It is so ridiculously good. It's just like, What the fuck like, yeah, just everything's just gelling in a way that I think the first one, you could see a lot of little stumbles. There was a lot of good ideas behind the first one, but this one just slams through them so nicely. And there were definitely a couple moments where I was like, is that person real? Is this moment real? And I kind of had in my head I wonder. And then, which was I like? Which is great, which is so good, yeah, no, and has a really great ending. I think they improved upon the creature too, because the first one, I really felt like it looked almost transphobic, like it just looked like a transvestite, like a freaky transvestite thing. And this time, I was like, remember, Oh, that's right, yeah, okay, yeah, it was really a weird creature, yeah, and this time it's like a real crazy monster. And I was like, Fuck yes, okay, this is what we needed the first time. Like, this is working so much better. So I, if you recall, I felt the same way too. I was kind of blown away by how much more I like this than the first one, but my memory of the first one is limited. It just came away when I don't remember much of it at all. But I had recommended this to a friend who shall go unnamed because he paid the $20 rental, and he was like, yeah, he goes. I didn't like it as much as the first one. Wow. I was like, What did you rent? The right one? Did you get? And I said, I I said, the first one, I can't even remember this one I am going to have a hard time forgetting. And I thought that the the mythology of this thing was explained in enough detail that I was really interested in it where that was not the case of the first one, yeah, the first one, I felt like she was meant to be a therapist, but every time she interacted with people, it was so bad, bad she was a bad therapist. I'd forgotten that. That's probably why it bugged me, you know? I got that weird fucking thing in my head, yeah, that was a that was a big part of it. And, like, the mythology was an interesting thing. But this time, you're like, Okay, we have enough for memory from the first one to know the basics of the mythos. And so sprinkling it back in with the guy from house who plays like the older Doctor assistant guy like that was really cool. You're just like, okay, cool. Yeah, that's right. You all right, this thing. And there were only two gripes I have with this film, though. One, at the beginning, we set up, okay, we get this idea in the mythos that if the person who is infected dies and isn't able to. Pass It On, the thing will go away, right? But in the very opening, we see a guy die with nobody actually seeing him. But somehow he infects people. I don't understand that in the beginning of this movie, yeah, where the guy who gets hit, yeah, hit by the vehicle, he's not, he's not dying in a way where he's staring at somebody giving the big look. I don't know that. He's Oh, so you're, you're like, how did the the How did the next person, but maybe he had already, yeah, because he said he already affect. It seemed like, at least the way the drug dealer scene was done. Yeah, that the impact, the change is made, and then they kill themselves in some horrific way. And that's how the demon finally gets its how the demon consumes what it has after getting his next person lying. But he doesn't even smile at the guy. He doesn't do anything. He just tells him, Oh no, I didn't I don't want it to be you. I'm sorry. This is the wrong thing. And then he runs out of the house, he doesn't do any of the things that we later see and are told have to happen. Don't remember that scene at all. It's a good it's a good point. I wonder if this is more than just this particular thing. If this is something that can infect multiple people at once, oh, or something like that, because obviously, by the end of this, we're looking at right, pretty 1000s of people who are affected. Pretty strong implication there at the end, that it can be more than one person at a time. The second gripe I have, which is stupid and is all on me, but it was the thing I hated the absolute most about the first one is the end credit music, which is just sound effects. It's like a bad Halloween Horror sound effects disc that maybe has two layers accidentally spliced together, and it's like whoop and they did it a fucking Gen. And I was like, You guys have an incredible music bed through this entire film with great tracks. And instead of using any of them or even throwing in another fun song for us, No, you're going to do a stupid fucking sound effect thing that's just irritating and horrible through the entire and I sit through credits. So I was like, you fucker did it again to me. I fucking hate you. I like this movie Up until this very moment. Screw you guys. Well, see, I had the advantage of watching that streaming. So it did the little thing where it did and I hit the wrong button. You know what I did? Cleared it happened to me too. And I pulled it back up, I fast forwarded, and I went to the credits again to watch them see there's this thing out now called IMDB. And if you really want to know who worked on the movie and you missed the credits, you can go check there. I know, especially if it's gonna piss you off that I didn't know it was gonna happen, it is definitely a sign of respect. So I think good job on you. You did mention one thing that I want to ask you guys about. I wasn't wrong, right? Those songs she was singing, those were bangers, kind of they made sense. This person could have a giant, huge following, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Naomi Scott was freaking amazing. So good. Yeah? I was looking at her IMDb to figure out, like, what else she's done and Rangers, seen Power Rangers ages ago. Don't remember her from that Lemonade Mouth I did work on. And when I was a Technicolor, yes, it was, yeah, it's a Disney show, and it has some fucking great music. And I was like, All right, it's all adding up now. So she's a Disney kid, yeah, she's a Disney kid, or at least she did one Disney film. And yeah, obviously has a singing talent, yeah, so yeah, and dancing and everything. I was like, boy, they knocked out of the park with her. Very believable, yeah, yeah. I'm glad you like that smile too. Paramount plus and rental on a whole lot other places, right? Yeah, but you can get it free if you already paid for plus. And I think maybe MGM Plus, I'm not sure, but definitely Paramount plus. Well, I'm gonna bring this up because you guys haven't yet, okay, so maybe you haven't seen it. First two episodes of creature commandos dropped. I have not seen it yet. I completely missed that that had come out. Okay? They did not make a big deal out of it, because I found it in the carousel. And I was like, Wait, this fucking dropped. Okay, so what'd you think? How was it? I liked it. Everybody online is like, this is some of the best animation I've ever seen. And I was like, No, that is not true. Think of one show we talked about just earlier. Well, that probably is better, but I it is good and very entertaining and fun. I guess that to me. You have to be better than that to really stand out and have people saying, this is some of the best animation ever, because there's three seasons of Vox Machina that is better animation and better writing and funnier and more heartfelt, and then the first two episodes creature Commandos, that being said, a lot of fun, and I will definitely keep watching. I would even say that you've got to be, you've got to be better than Harley Quinn if you're going to come out and say that this is the best animation, because even in your own company, people are doing more interesting stuff than creature commandos. So I was not disappointed. I was just surprised at the super positive reaction this got what does this animation look like? Looks like the DC movie animations that all them, you know, the Justice League and all of that stuff. So Gotcha. Doesn't look particularly interesting. It's not arcane. It's not even Vox Machina, which I think has some really beautiful animation, so very serviceable fun. I am waiting to see what they do with it. It's only seven episodes. I think they put two up, two episodes out there. And I was like, I hope some shit starts happening. So that's preach Commandos, and that is on HBO. Max, excellent. Well, I saw a surprising thing that I thought I was gonna hate and didn't, which was wicked. Yeah, I to be clear, I have seen the stage show and I have read the two books, maybe there's three. Now, I have no memory, pretty much of any of it. So a while ago, it was a while ago, and so I watched this film because my my husband said, people are really liking it. Maybe we should see this. I was like, All right, I don't care, like, it's a movie, I'll go and it was so good. Like, they did a great job. It's really fun. It's really like, well paced, great music, just silly, great acting. I don't know it. It works. It works really, really well. It did do a spider man. And I will say it is part one, yeah, so, and that's fine, because there's plenty more story to be told, and it ends in a really good spot that, like, you know, it's, it's a cool way to set up the next piece. But I was also like, you guys, you fuckers, the musical is only three hours long. Is it three hours? Well, that's what a general play is, yeah, throw in intermission and all that. Yeah. So why couldn't they make a three hour movie of this good question, I think because it's for kids, then they should make a 90 minute, right? Thank you, Eric, yes, I don't know whatever they're doing. They're doing it right, though, because I think they're raking it in there. That's the reason money. Yeah, it's teaching kids some bad freaking lessons, though. But the the lead actors are coming out. Oh yeah, take selfies in the movie theater. Fix screenshots while you're in there, sing along with all the songs out loud. I did hear from somebody like, Oh, were they singing? And were people singing in the theater with you? And I was like, there were four other people there. It was like, 10 o'clock at night. No one was singing. What if those four people started singing? The other three would have beat them up. I would have punched him in the fucking face, is what I wanted on. I would be like, I didn't pay to listen to you, sir. Like, no, it was. There was no one else in the theater but the two people who were right next to us. And I was like, I love the idea if they'd come out and said, Hey, we're gonna set up these special screens. Yeah, come in and we're gonna have a great time regular theater. Don't, please don't do that. Don't do that. No, that's so inappropriate. Like, especially for people you know, not everyone has already seen it and is in the wicked verse or whatever. Like, that's not fair. People deserve a first time viewing of enjoying, like, what it is and what is there to present. Like, yeah, there should be sing along screenings, if you want to do a sing along, that's different, but still good. I am very sick of the merch, though, for fuck sake, I don't need to see any more wicked socks being advertised to me. Wicked dolls, wicked makeup line, Detective targeted advertising because I have seen none of, Oh, my God. Everything I look at is like and wicked and wicked. I'm like, why is my surreal now wicked themed guys, Jesus, they have probably spent as much money on the movie as on the advertising, because it has been everywhere. Big Question. Though, how tall are the Munchkins I heard about that? Oh, I think they're normal people, like flies, right? But in fairness, have you seen the trailer for Snow White? That is my counterpoint. Oh, when people do little people, sometimes you shouldn't even try. Maybe the dwarf, maybe the dwarves, and that should just be people, because it's, I guess, harrowing. My question is, if you get, I mean, are they called the Munchkins? I mean, if they're called the Munchkins, why don't we do a hobbit then and shrink down on the size people too? I think, I think they're like five foot and under people. I don't think there was any tall munchkins I saw. They were just, like, not tall people. I'm just, I don't know. It didn't bother me. I didn't spend the film. One thing that did not bother you in this movie. I mean, look, anyways, in theaters now. Yes, all right, I watched a kind of a weird one, because I'm starting to barrel through the 2024, releases that I hadn't seen yet. It's what's inside. Oh yeah, I have not seen it. It's a real interesting watch. It was bugging the shit out of me for like, 2030, minutes, and then it starts to get into the gist of what's going on, and juices it up. And it got really good. I really enjoyed it. It's it has the, I don't know how old the maker of the film, the film was, I don't think he's particularly older guy, and it feels like somebody that watched a lot of very short things growing up. The imagery is really well done, but it is constant. Everything has to look total eye candy and almost to the point of distraction. But at the same time, it's overall done fairly well. And this is the Netflix body swap. Yeah. Movie. Okay, cool. The ideas bunch of friends who haven't seen each other, and I mean, the ages of these people haven't seen each other in six months to a year, but they're all getting together, and one of them has invented this machine that allows you to switch bodies. Oh, okay, and so the game starts as we're going to switch bodies, but I'm not going to tell you who I'm switching bodies with, so you guys have to guess who they are. And it's got a little sketches around human nature, of what might happen if you are with a group of people that looked like this, and you switched to the body that I like this person. What shall I do while I'm in this body? It kind of nicely skirts around that, without making it feel great, like they're avoiding it. But the it has that character problem, too, of which is ages old with teen movies where it's like, there are at least three or four of these people that would never hang around with the rest of the Oh, sure, they are deep personality differences going on here, but the acting is all good. It's all pretty solid for their you know, especially since they're younger and on Netflix younger I say they're probably all in their 20s, but the it's hard to talk a lot about. I mean, it's not like the some of the stuff happens you don't see coming, but it's still, well, pulled off and interesting when it had does happen. So I definitely recommend it. As I said, it's on Netflix. It's a streaming only kind of situation. Let's see who the director was on this one. But I think he's only done like two or three things. He's fairly new in the the world of directing. Greg Jordan, he looks pretty darn Young. Did a live action Cowboy Bebop looks like, no, ah, that was not very good. I still have it in my list, and I do not know if I'll ever watch it. 2021, so I have a question. So these are young people in their 20s. Are they all like brilliant scientists or something? This guy just created a machine. There's one guy who is and everybody else is just like, Oh, that's cool. This guy always does amazing things. Yeah, that's pretty much how it works out. I mean, there's a little bit of arguments, and some people don't want to be involved, and kind of get coerced, and then others don't want to be involved, but kind of get talked into it. Does the machine like, break after the first go, or something like, are they? What weird? I said some things that happened are not unexpected, but handled well enough, then it's interesting how they pull them off. Okay, the lead was Brittany O'Grady, who was, if you watch the White Lotus. She was really good in so there the town's good enough to make it interesting, but I will say, 2030 minutes, I was like, questioning my choice. Do I really want to watch this? Did it have like, a bodies, bodies, bodies, feel to it, or, okay, all right, but it did have similar problems with the cast, where it's like, yeah, you're really not very likable people, but there weren't dislikable like the bodies movie was I kind of actively dislike everybody in this movie? Sure? Yeah, that's an awfully big ask at the beginning of the film. Well, that would everyone be okay with this amazing thing and not go, Holy shit, you have just changed science. Well, that's the thing. Like, the rule is you can have one magical thing in a movie as long as it's kind of this, that one thing, I guess you can go along with it, like Liar, liar. The kid blows out candles and his dad suddenly can't lie, sure. But magic is magic, and science is science, unless you don't know what science is, it's so crazy cool. There has to be some pushback, realistic pushback, for an audience to then go, okay, that's how I would also react. Is be amazed at this. Oh, that is, oh yeah, that's present, okay, oh yeah. They're all like, what I'm sure it does. And then, okay, oh my god, yeah, no, it is definitely okay handled like it is not a this is a new beer. Okay, okay, well, maybe I'll give that a try. That was called, it's what's inside on Netflix. Why don't we take a little break, guys, and then when we come back, we're just gonna bullshit For however long. Oh my gosh, we'll be right back. Spotted tonight. We died in hell. Be afraid spotter will burn to the ground. This is madness. Madness. This is Spata. You the 1000 nations of the Persian Empire descend upon you. Our arrows will blot out the sun. Then we will fight in the shade. This is where we fight before this battle is over, the world will know That few stood against many, and we are back, guys. We're just gonna bullshit for a while, about 300 episodes, wow, things we've done, things we've done all our life, what we're doing. Otherwise, I had this bit I was gonna do where I was gonna bring out some champagne, I was gonna pour you guys a couple of glasses of champagne that I was gonna fill the rest of my glass with the rest of the champagne, but I've curbed my drinking a bit because want to lose a couple of pounds and remember most of the day. Well, good for you. I like that. That's okay. Why I'm depressed all the time. Now, we've got your supplied energy drinks and we are good to go. I do not need champagne on top of that, no, but so we start with episode one. Yeah, let's just talk about every episode we've ever done in order. But we did start out originally, long ago, this was dead again, yeah, when? How did this all start? Why on earth did you guys start this podcast? I don't think I've ever asked. Well, we knew we wanted to do a podcast, and prior to that, we had even thought we were going to do like a Lovecraft podcast, where we were going to discuss stories. Break. Down and all of that stuff, but there is a dozen podcasts that are doing that, probably much better than we ever could. And that's fine, because there's no one who has a movie podcast, especially about genre. That's right. Well, we both, Eric got me into podcasts, and I started with just a couple of just bullshit, you know, guys sitting around having kind of a radio type show, which I really enjoyed. And then that got into listening to people talk about film and writing and stuff like that. And then it was like he'd just been saying for months and months, you know, let's start a podcast. And I was like, Well, what's it gonna be? Going to be? And we knew, Okay, let's talk about films. But what's our gimmick? Right? Yeah, so remember, the first gimmick was dead again, was going to be, we'd pick a film and then pick another film that would go with that film. Okay, yeah, and something. And then, well, the fun one of the fun ones was that is, I about broke Kelly's brain on one of them. And I think it was probably the beginning of the end for dead again when I paired in the mouth of madness with the matrix. Oh God, this isn't working. What do we want to do? Well, also, there was the pure cinema podcast, and I started listening to that afterwards, and I was just like, Jesus Christ. These guys do that every once in a while, and they do it so much better than us. They put so much research into it, and they've got three hour podcasts about all this stuff. And it was like, All right, well, I don't want to do like, a cheap version of that. The other thing was we, we chose Reanimator for one of the movies, and we weren't telling each other what we would pair it with, so that we both showed up with Pet Cemetery to pair it with. Oh my god. And I was like, Okay, this isn't working. What else can we do? Made another change there? Yes, the first few we started, I don't remember what I mean straight, hey, let's just talk genre pictures. It was pretty basic. It wasn't a scientist. We thought, Well, it'd be the two of us, and then we'll invite somebody else to sit in Yeah, a rotating series, which was fun but difficult, yeah? And then you showed up. What I still Why did you ask me? That's the funny thing to me, like we knew that we were going to have a rotating group of guests, and we just had a list of people that we wanted you were on that list, but that first episode, after you've left, I told Eric, I was like, I just want her on every episode. I think we're done searching, yeah. I don't think we were even searching, yeah, yeah, no, we hadn't Yeah. But after that first time with you, I was just like, yeah. I like the way her voice sounds, and I like how quick she is and funny she is, and why would we want a different it's just so funny because I showed up for that and I did it completely wrong for our first episode together, because I just watched a huge stack, yes, of films. And I just was like, oh, okay, we're talking about disaster, whatever. And I had just watched like, 10 movies, and you guys were also going to talk about those movies. And I was just like, Okay, I'll talk about your movies and my movies and other movies. It worked well. But because there's, you know, you meet people as things go, yeah, and there's like, three or four filmmakers I remember from myth, and you're one of them, yeah, I still love heart. I think heart is an amazing creation. And then I'd run into it crypto con Seattle a few times. Yeah, your asshole other at the time, and how? Yeah, I remember, right? It kind of pissed him off that I paid more attention. He used him massively. We don't, we don't talk a lot about personal stuff, but I did date a supreme narcissist who could not handle me getting any attention. That's good. I'm glad I helped. Oh, you did a great job. You did a great job. He hated you. That's an impressive because Eric is, like, the most likable no no for narcissist, it means nothing anyone who does not do what they want them to do is the worst person. So, yeah, that was fun, yeah, and I think I only had met you. Kelly, want like, I remember we hung out in the in the like party area for like, a little bit. We chatted up on the 13th floor, yeah, and that was, that was my main, I mean, we might have been on a panel or two together, but, yeah, I don't know if I'd even done panels by that point. Yeah, I don't think so. That was pretty that was really early. We were back at the, I don't know, five or six years in. Probably we're at the. The hotel that's up the street from where we are now, that was a while ago. That's crazy. That's crazy. Well, I'm really glad that you guys decided to ask me. I know at that point in my life, I had nothing going on, and I was like, hell yes, I want to what is this? What are we doing? What's it called? Like, I didn't even know it was a Lovecraft reference for way too long. Like, way too is it spelled wrong? Oh, well, I don't care. I have something to do. Once it's in my calendar. I have somewhere to be great. Well, occasionally. Well, then, you know, yeah, it happens, yeah. Well, it's, I'm glad you did. And then So Eric, you had you previously done a podcast before this. Were you just interested in podcasts? I had been guests on stuff like I did when the rev was on KSW. I did the podcast. They had there for a while, a couple episodes there, and not a lot other than that, like Derek's a lot. I thought that was kind of one that, well, this could be something we can do, but I don't think Kate ever was on his so, no, not a lot. And you've done, but you had done, yeah, I was a regular on the Lovecraft easing show, but I started just feeling like that show had also a revolving door of panelists and stuff, but I was on there almost every episode, And it started getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And I, I just decided, you know, hey, I want to start my own band. I'm a lead guitarist. I don't need this guitar, truly excellent, and we are thankful for you to be a lead guitarist. I do not want that. I will have the little what is the thing? The round one. Oh, tambourine, tambourine. I will be the tambourineist any day. Hope you at least be a drummer. I mean, that would be cool. That would be cool. I feel like we are all lead guitarists in this band. It's just I take most of solos. Excellent. All yours. I mean, I mean, I don't know if you guys realize this, but I did student radio for a while in London. I was given a show at rare FM, and my time was Sunday mornings, from like eight or nine in the morning for like, a few hours, no one listened. No What did you do? I called it Sleepless in Seattle, and I specifically played music from Seattle, because I was so mad that everyone I met asked me about nirvana. And I was like, we have other music. We do have other music. And so I made a deal with, actually, with Sub Pop, and they gave me a bunch of merch and a bunch of discs and stuff, and sent it my way, and I was able to play like, different things. And I did discover pretty quickly, though, that I was running out of interesting material. I was like, oh, man, I this is, this is a lot of work, and I don't really like all the music that I'm playing at this point, and I don't know a lot about them, and no one's listening to the show. And so I think I did it for, like, I don't know, a quarter or something, but, well, that's, that's a long time. Yeah, it's hard work. It's one of the things I like about our show is that we did kind of set it up to be almost, like, I don't want to say, like, a morning zoo or something like, but we've got a schedule, you know, we've got a round robin. We have a little bit of talk beforehand. We go into business, and then we go into our gimmick, yeah. And I think that that, I think that that's what attracts a lot of people, or keeps them coming back, is that, oh, I know what this show is, and if you like that format, then you're going to come back for that format. And I, I love that. It's evolved very slightly in in ways to where, you know, when you started putting in the commercials during the commercial break, yeah? Because there was a bit there when we were on podcast one and we had to actually play real commercials. And that was, like, very strange, yeah, you know, mattress King. In order to use their site, you used it for free. With the agreement was they didn't start commercials. Did you choose where the commercials go? I think so. Think I was able to, like, type in a time code or, okay, for that, but we didn't stay there very long. They were not very good. Yeah, I remember references to that being made, but I'm not sure if I actually, I must have heard a few of the commercials at that point. Yeah, yeah. It was, you know, muffler shops and stuff like that. And then it was almost always a podcast, one commercial, which I kind of liked, because it made it sound like we were professionals. Yeah, but, but other than that, I think that the way we're doing it now and then, the, you know, the introduction of, of. Funny Vanessa saying at the end of the show, and then now something that pops up before the beginning of the show, and everything I'm like this is, this is a slow evolution, but things are changing, and I like all the little changes. And the the advent of the timer, the time was a that was probably for the best major event. It was a good idea give us. I mean, I definitely it's stressed, stresses me out, but I think it's a very good idea, because I can talk about something for ever and ever. I was impressed. I think it's, like, very recent. I think by the Canadian episode, you managed to get all of Black Christmas, like, Wow. You got the whole story, which is, yeah, 50 year old movie gives a shit. Five minute segment, flashback, yeah, no, it was, yeah, it's been, it's been really fun. And I like, I like that the structure is evolving, and that we are finding new ways to make it interesting, and we're always challenging ourselves. I think that's very cool. One of the things that I didn't, I've always meant to ask you guys, and I don't know the answer to, we have such a cool opening song, like, what the where's that from? Yeah. So Eric and I made a feature film back in 2005 and it ended up being called strange, yeah, adaptation of Lovecraft movie thing on the doorstep. And my brother is in, well, he's in a band now called q5 that was a minor Seattle band that hit it kind of big in Europe in the 80s. And they reformed and called themselves night shade. And we knew that we wanted an intro for this film that felt like the intro to in the mouth of madness. And so I just played in the mouth of madness and the call of catullu from Metallica to my brother's band, and said, Could you write us a short song that sounds like this? And they came up with a really cool fucking song, and then, you know, we paid him for it and everything. So that's, that's our song. It's on one of their albums, the full version of it. It's called strangeeons part one, and we just decided to use that with this. And I think it's a very cool song too. Yeah, it's really nice. It sounds very good, very distinctive. And, yeah, interesting. And I like that, because, again, with the consistency you're talking about, you know, it's like there's certain radio personalities I've listened to who always introduced with that same song, right? And it's like a good thing to do. I like that. Yeah? I couldn't agree more. I was just, every time I listened to our podcast, I'm like, yeah, it's just bitches on so good. Yeah, that's called strangeeons Part One. It is by the band nightshade, and I think it's on the album. Stand and be true. Well, now I should buy this album. I like your music, guys. I have a funny memory. It wasn't on the show. I don't know how much Vanessa want to talk about this one, but I don't know if it was our first or one of our first night recordings and vodka. Oh, this is the drunk episode. Or we're served. I have, I mean, I've been drunk, but that was a special version of drunk. No. I mean, I don't even know if I want to listen to that episode again, because it was so rough. I just, I remember, like, the first half of our thing, part one, I was starting to be drunk, and by the second part, I literally had no idea what we were talking about. I remember one time Kelly was like, Yeah, that's good. You want to tell us about your film. What are we? What is it? My turn? Okay. I had no concept of what was going on, but you guys were really stand up and made sure that I didn't go home until I was okay to go home. And that was really cool. I have no I have such sketchy memories that entire day, but I wasn't the only one who was drunk, so no, and that was my fault in thinking that, Oh, I have such a good time getting drunk that let's have a show where we're drunk. But then listening to it, I was like, Oh, I am super annoying when I'm drunk. I think I remember listening at one point to it and going, I sound like a valley girl when I'm drunk. I was just doing so many Valley girls sounding thing. I was fucked. This is intolerable, truly intolerable. I don't remember you sounding bad at all. I was very focused on how bad I sounded so well, you know, yeah, that's how those things work, yeah. I mean, I don't even know how long those episodes were we there for, like, six hours. Who knows? Seemed like it? Well, if you include the post recovery time frame, that's true. I don't know how long it was post recovering either, but it was a while. Yeah, well, I like, and I'd like to put something forward. I think we've talked about this before, and I thought this would be great for December, but it's too late, because there was a Friday the 13th in December. And I thought, you know, oh, why don't we all pick a Friday the 13th movie and have that come out on the Thursday before Friday the 13th? And I, I'd like to kind of push into stuff like that, where we can talk about some of these franchises that have, like, when I found out the grudge had 11 movies, oh my God, why didn't we do a grudge episode or something like that, because, yeah, it might seem very easy to the listener, but we sit there and go, Fuck what's the next sub genre I want to talk about? After 300 episodes, we have really started to whittle this down to, oh yeah, either broad, broad or very specific. I have to check it out to pizza. I have to check a spreadsheet. Well, all of Eastern Yes. Oh my god, the number of things that I just literally am like, All right, what's in my room? What do I see? Lamp? Have we done lamps? Yes, okay, exactly so. Or the number of times I'm like, okay, okay, so, winter, winter snow, damn it. We've done snow, okay, winter, winter, Christmas, damn it. We'd, you know, like it's just it is getting a little bit tougher. So, yeah, every time we do these kind of weird months and stuff, I It's kind of a relief at the same time as a burden. Because, yeah, it depends on how it goes. Yeah, yeah, I used to do mine will get a little harder. Because my subject used to come from I can look at my disc collection, and now that disc collection is about 80% in storage, so it's like, I guess I could look through my cattle. Anthony Bourdain movies. Anthony Bourdain documentary about clue. All right. I mean, I almost for for next week. As you guys know, I almost pushed us into a topic that no one wanted to do, which was Gerard Butler. 360 movies, but very few genre No, there's a fair number of a problem doing Gerard Butler. You know, I'm a fan as well. I was just like, you don't have to tie this into 300 I know, I know, but I just, I that's where my brain went. It just it nestled into a little spot, and it was like, Okay, let's explore this area. It's hard to get my brain to pry into new things, so we'll have to do them. Then in a future episode. In a future episode, perhaps I will make us do a Gerard Butler. There's also one Gerard Butler movie I really want to see at some point. I'm not going to say what. I don't want to spoil it. I to spoil it for a future episode. I have a question. Vanessa, okay, it's gonna make me sound like a bad friend. Okay, so for a living you edit video game trailers Correct. Can you tell me how this gig comes about? Do you is there, like a a message board where somebody puts up an ad and says, we're looking for a video game trailer? And I'll be honest, this is where I'm the bad friend part comes on. I don't I've never seen one of your trailers, trailer from for a game that is coming out. Or is it a gameplay trailer? Or I don't understand how any of this works. Yes, okay, all of that for you. So, yeah, okay. So it's weird, because, of course, the film world exists, and whenever somebody is asked in film, how did you get to whatever it is you're doing, people are like, I don't know. It just kind of happened. There's no way to repeat the thing I did to get to where I am. That 100% was my case. I was going into filmmaking. I was trying to do writing, directing. It spiraled off into editing. I then got forced into some script supervising. I then got forced into with my horrible, horrible ex. His company specialized in game content and game trailers, so I had no knowledge of that universe. So I started doing these game trailers. They happened to land a contract for Adult Swim Games, which meant there were some, and it was their entire one year catalog of any trailers that were coming out for Adult Swim Games we were doing. So that meant I was doing all the trailers for that, and that was a big learning curve, and most of those were live action trailers, which, by the way, if you're making a video game, don't do a live action trailer. They're very expensive and they do not sell your game. But that's okay. He had a big ego, and he wanted to do this. So when I left that company, I. I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do with my life. Fuck. Oh, God, what am I doing? I have to start over again. I mean, I've started over every time I've moved cities, every time I've anyway. So weirdly, people started contacting me and said, You did the Duck game trailer. You did the soma series, web series trailers. You did this. You did that, we would be very interested in you doing this Kickstarter trailer for initially very little money. And I was like, oh, god, yes. Okay, sure. Why not? And eventually, all my work became people contacting me who had heard of other things I did Wow through games. So I actually, I don't even really advertise. I'm very, very, very fortunate to be in a position where people know my work and contact me because they like my work. So that's awesome. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. It's taken in fairness, let me be clear here. Anyone who's getting in the film industry, I am, like, 20 years deep at this point, as if, okay, I'm 18 years deep at this point. So I spent the first three years starving, and then probably the next three years after that begging, and then eventually it rolled into an actual career, like I was literally stealing toilet paper the first part of my career, like, I know, like, it's hard. It does not just happen that people start contacting you, but eventually I did get to that point. So that's how I get people, they I have a website. People can check out my website. They usually contact me through a form on my website, and then we start a conversation. And I'd say one out of five, or every 10 of those turns into a gig. And I, at this point, take on about two gigs a month. I used to do about 12 gigs a month. That's too much. It was too much. A lot. Yeah, I do way less, but, but I'm very, very happy with where we're at. And as far as what kind of game trailers I do, all of them, sometimes they're Kickstarter, sometimes they're coming soon, slash announcement trailers. Then there's launch trailers, then there's DLC trailers, like we've put out additional content or additional stories or whatever. And then I I do those too, so it's just whatever people need. Okay, so I was joking. I have seen like, two of your trailers, and I remember thinking, do you do the gameplay through and record that, and that's what you're working with, or did they give you a bunch of video of game sometimes? So more and more I've recorded gameplay. Most of the time I make them do it, because it's very expensive for me to do it, and I work with a lot of Indies, and my rate almost doubles if I have to play their game and record it, because the game is often very broken at that point, it's gonna crash continually. You need special codes to get to different parts of levels to make things happen. I mean, the number of times that, like, I did a really big game trailer, which I'm not going to say the name of, and the sky was broken, and some of the people were broken, so you had to only look in certain directions. And anytime I caught something they were not happy with seeing, I had to crop in and like, you know, or blur, or whatever I had to do to make sure you didn't see the broken pieces. So it's just a lot of time, and they already know their game. So I usually tell them, hey, if somebody's just playing through the game to test it, just hit record. And then they give me a lot of footage. He has a lot of stuff in the game, a lot. Yeah, sometimes these games are three, four hours long, so I've asked them to start giving me more specific things. But for the most part, they give me this huge thing, and I I take that and I make a story out of it. I have a conversation with them. I figure out what the hell they're trying to do, what they want to do, what they think their game is, who, what kind of players they want. And then from there, then do they give you the music bed that this sits on? Or do you have come up with that? Um, both. So sometimes it just totally depends. So sometimes they have music for the game that I love working with music from the games, because I feel like that's the right tone. Sometimes they don't have that ready. Sometimes that's not quite what they want. And so I'll go searching through copyright free paid for music beds, and I will find and present them 1020, tracks, and then we pick from there. Sometimes they have a composer I work with, and so we'll go back and forth, and it's a very chicken egg, because the composer is like, I like to work against tracks or a video. And I'm like, Well, fuck you. I don't want to cut anything until I have music. And we get a little argument, and then we find a good middle ground. So cool. Yeah, that's my life. The other interesting thing is that your husband does the same thing. Yes, so how does that work? Do you guys fight for jobs? No, okay, he works for a big company, and he does triple A title games. So he does like the Yakuza games. He does Pokemon, he does Minecraft, he does. The big boys. I don't have to touch those guys. I work with indie game devs, so I do very, very different content. Sometimes. The way I met him is his company hired me to help with it at Amazon game launch. Which Amazon game sucks? Okay, we all know this. All right. It was the worst trying to capture I've ever had to do. But yeah, so he does a completely different facet of it, and it's kind of neat, because we're not vying for the same jobs, and we do give each other feedback, like sometimes we'll sit and watch each other's work and say, this is working, this isn't working. You know, it's pretty nice in that way. And he's changed my style of editing a lot because his company does Fast and Furious, like super crazy, like intense sound design, great music cutting, like really sharp and really crisp. And I used to do more, like, sort of emotional edits. And so I've kind of found more ways I can cut through seeing the way that his company does it. So that's been kind of cool, trying to expand as a person. Well, thank you for joining us today. I know commercial thing, yeah, well, maybe now you know a little bit more about what I get up to every day, aside from, aside from taking care of my beautiful daughter and watching a lot of Miss Rachel. I also, promise Rachel, run into the office, try to cut something really quick, come back okay. She's not crying yet. Run back into the office. Cut about right. Yes, nice. Yeah, very cool. Any other interesting things you've got from our Well, I mean, part of it is not like we're traveling. I remember that time we went to New York, and introducing the live shows has been kind of fun, yeah, and then frustrating, yeah, definitely. What happened in the last nobody showed up. Oh yeah. There was really bad music happening too in the courtyard, and it was really hard to hear. Yeah, I saw put out a notice basically saying, you know that that wasn't going to happen this next time. Yeah, I'm very grateful for that. And yeah, and I got asked about crypto Con this year, and I am officially only probably doing our panel again. Yeah, so we better do one. Yeah, I, I, you know, we get the the way it works, if you're panelists, is you get an email that says, Do you want to be a panelist this year, and would you like to submit a panel suggestion? And all this. And I had reached out and Jason Weiss, who's a really good guy. Yeah, he had said, I said I didn't have a panel idea. I'm willing to be on panels, and of course, I want to do the strange eons radio panel. And he then responded with, you will be moderating the crow remake panel. Oh, no, which is how I know he listens to the show. We're gonna get this going. Oh my god, Byron on the same panel. That should be fun. Oh, Lord, me and Byron would be fun because I actually like him quite a bit, but I disagree with almost every one of his film opinions. You know, I have friends like that, and I'm like, Man, I like you so much as a person. How are we friends? I can't read your I can't be on Facebook anymore because I get so mad at you. This literally happened last night. But yeah, so we're gonna have to think about that. And we, you know, we've done, aside from the crypto con live, we also did an Emerald City Comic Con once, so it was good. I mean, even if people aren't showing up, it's still nice, because it's a break from the way that we do things normally, to have kind of something cool for our show. I think, excuse me, I think the problem with the live shows is that it's a lot of research and everything. And so for this next one, we decided we're just going to do a regular show as our live show. So we'll pick up, you know, maybe whoever the guest is, and we'll pick a film from their thing, instead of all talking about one John Carpenter film or whatever we do, yeah? No, I think that's good. The only other, yeah, the only other problem with the live shows is I get very nervous and I talk very fast, yes, yeah. The other problem is that we are on a set time. We can't go over an hour on those live shows fast so, yeah, yeah, let's see what else. Yeah, yeah. You listeners have been great talk. Obviously, we talk about a few of you a lot, yeah, but we appreciate all of you absolutely, and if you ever because I've felt this way too, and is listening to podcast people, I don't think they want to hear from me. We do. We want to hear from you. For sure, get on the page, comment on the movies. We don't care. Or if you can tell us what a fucking stupid take you had on this not a problem. I don't I why? As long as you put a reason, don't just say this is stupid, because that's annoying, but say why. It's like I you might be right anyway, go, Well shit, I totally missed thinking you never know, but it may still be a conversation. So yeah, we appreciate that. That is part of the value for value is if you, if you get something out of us interacting, then interact back with the one I really loved was the comment, I think we were doing Hammer films or something. And somebody was like, I sure wish you guys wouldn't do a certain type of films each time. And I was like, That's literally the gimmick. That is what we do talk about every time. Sorry about that. No wait, we can't sorry. Just gonna have to go and listen to the one show about that Brazilian film that you all right, the one episode we talked about one movie. Oh yeah, I love that episode. Oh no, yeah, history of the occult. History of the occult. Yeah, that was super fun. That was, that was a nice challenge, for sure. And couple things I'm going to talk about a little future ideas. Oh yeah, some of you probably know, most you do. I'm moving in a drastic way. This almost feels mentally. This feels like the time I moved from twin to Seattle. This is going to be a very, very big change from Twin Falls, yeah, Twin Falls, I don't sorry, yeah. And I plan on using that to fuel some of the things we've been working on, back burner and stuff like that. It's going to change the way I work, and I think in a very good way, working on a Patreon, yeah, that will eventually get freaking done. Part of the reason is, buy me a coffee as cool as it is is not very good in the background, the background, process of buying me a coffee is not smooth? Yeah, it's foreground stuff, the stuff you log into and send us money buy us pizzas through works really well. Background is not Patreon is much smoother. Yeah. And we've got a kind of a new website I've worked on a little bit. The only problem a little frustrated with its blog process, but that has started to smooth out because and basics looks kind of all right. And for some reason, our Etsy store has decided I am not who I am. Oh, I'm battling with them. Right to go, yes, because, well, they got different rules if you're like an LLC or if you're an independent so I may take it down and re register as a small business as opposed to an LLC, because they want all this verification. It's like, we don't believe that that's your driver's license. What we're supposed to do here's not been running for a while. Oh, I was just thinking about that because I am wearing our strange eons radio t shirt. And I was like, oh, I should, like, buy a long sleeve shirt or a sweatshirt or something. And I did not get around to it, but because it's winter and it's kind of cold, so I have to wear a hoodie with it, which sucks, because I'm covering it, but it's cool. It's a cool shirt. You should buy it when our Etsy store functions, yeah, when it runs again, yeah. But these are things I want to reach out, interact even more, yeah, more stuff, fun stuff with, and get the be nice, to get our Instagram page to be something other than just the preview and the show image, do some stuff with that. If there's ideas of things you guys want us to do, let us know we're really interested in doing that. And beyond just the podcast, if there's weird, it would be fun if you guys did this. And we may not do it, but we might. Yeah, you never know. Yeah. I think that's the thing is, we spend a lot of our creative time and energy on the show, and then Kelly is also writing, and, you know, I'm, I'm doing my edits, and Eric's working with cryptocon, and, you know, so we've got these crazy other things happening in our background, so we don't always have time to do more for the show than just do the show. So if you guys have suggestions or ideas, or, you know, just want to help out in any way, just let us know. Because I we would definitely appreciate it. We'd love to hear from you. Yeah, and your ideas, I must agree. Must agree. Well, making me agree, that's right. Welcome back to the show, Kelly. You can't say Vanessa kicking Kelly under the table five minutes. I've been saying it for a long time. Yes, I, you know, I push back on the Patreon simply because everything is a subscription these days, and I personally am tired of. Serving to every fucking thing so, but you are you, and not everyone's you. I get it. I just want to put that because I'm subscribed to some Patreons, because I love these artists, and I'm glad that I get to spend money on that rather than the stupid MGM plus I've signed up to so I can fucking watch from the fucking ending of this season three. What the fuck I have seen so many posts. What are you safe? No one is safe. Watch out. Watch out. Y'all, I don't I it's lost. It is just lost again in a way, but not in a bad way. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But yes, it's nice to be able to spend money on artists I appreciate. And most of all, I tend to spend it on, like graphic novelists, who I maybe they don't have any more work coming out anytime soon, and they're just doing stuff, and they, you know, sharing sketches now and again, and I'm happy to get them money. And I think people probably feel the same way about us, where it's like, it's not that we always have to supply stuff. You know, this isn't a shop. This is just a way of supporting and being a part of something more permanently, or like the you're on the Reverend and fuego show, yeah, Justin a few weeks ago, and his Patreon is really neat. It is really well set up. So kind of, yeah, he's even got a free level. So, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is just my own weird insecurities. Yeah. That's like, oh, 100% Oh, great. We have two subscribers. We there is always that fair. That's why I never wanted to do a Kickstarter for anything. Watch how many people were really willing to give you money. Hard on those at this point in time. Don't do a Kickstarter. Oh, my God, establish unless you're already a company, yeah, unless you're already a company or you already have a product, and you're basically pre selling, that's the only I mean, you can't make, you can't make artistic endeavors, for the most part, on Kickstarter anymore, like you can't do a film on Kickstarter. No, no fucking film in there in a long time. Yeah. Oh, well. Anyway, bone bat and Lovecraft are the Kickstarters I do. They love craft Film Festival. Bone bat, yeah, film festival I do every year because I love their Patreons and I love them, so yeah, they do it right? Yeah. And the best Kickstarters. And when I'm talking to people about this for doing their Kickstarter trailers, it's they already have a social element in place. They already have a fan base. They already have their Twitter is well established, or whatever they blue sky, you know, is Instagram is all reeling. They've got discords, they've got group, a community. And this is a way of pulling everyone together and essentially advertising. Essentially advertising the thing that they're gonna put out, that they're putting out anyway. It's almost never for, oh, we need this money to actually make this thing happen. It's more like this way we know we're getting pre sales in, basically a pre sales system, yes, yeah. I kicked in on two Kickstarters just this month for heavy metal coming back. Metal hurland, which is the French magazine that became heavy metal in the 70s. Whoa, both of them came back, and I thought it was really interesting. They both started with $5,000 that's what they were looking to Oh, really. Whoa, that's so low because the Kickstarter was not to make the thing happen. The Kickstarter was to get extra money to keep the thing going. Because, you know, heavy metal, they were basically already at the printers and everything. So they had paid for it with their new investors. Both of those just skyrocketed. I mean, wow, metal, I think, is at half a million now, Jesus and they were asking for $5,000 so, yeah, that's, that's a good way to do it, I think, yeah, you know, ask for finishing funds. Yes, yes, definitely. Yeah, cool, yeah. What's, what's next, Eric, I mean, you've got a film that is playing in film festivals constantly. Any idea on what your follow up is going to be? Remember the movie I worked with, with JD and Steve Barone and all those few years ago? Yes, it has cropped up again with some interest of somehow, I'm not entirely certain it is, but it needs some audio fixing, which I'm much better at now than I was last time we did it, and some artistic flourishes that'll be done. So I'm working on that again, fantastic, which is always interesting. And I'm also working a little bit on the Star Wars thing to get that done. It is so cool, and it's so weird. It would be so much fun to see somebody whose first Star Wars movie, maybe was that one, yeah, see how different, or if it was the next couple, see how different the world was when it came to buying movie theaters. Because that's more than just a time capsule about Star Wars. That's a time capsule. About going to the movies in the 90s versus what is going on now? Yeah, right, so I think there's a lot more to be done with that. And what he's talking about is Eric and I, in 1999 stood for two weeks with everybody in line for almost which which line were you at? We were at the one of the cinema in Seattle. They took, they took over the parking lot there. You know what's crazy. I was at least once there for that movie. So I wonder if I'm in like, the background as like little if you were at the midnight screening, no, okay, because that's the one we were we were able to shoot in, let us go in nice But originally, we just released that to the people who were there who wanted to buy in, basically enough to pay for just copy. Yeah, but I don't remember how many we made, very limited amount and and now I think, are you still talking about releasing it in chapters now, like on YouTube, is that probably would be more of a YouTube kind of thing. And you know, then we can add in, like, Mike the other night, and add in some interviews with the people that are still around, yeah, and like, I think you also ran into Seattle years ago or a couple years ago. Now that would be years ago, but Phil obviously would be around to again. So yeah, that'd be that'd be neat, wow, especially now cineromas opened back up. I mean, the whole world is really interesting when you look at it through that specific lens. And, like you said, pull back out and say, Where are we now? Like, Star Wars is so different. Cinema going is so different. Like, it's just our way of interacting with this kind of media. It's, it's that version of Seattle so different, right? Yeah, yeah. Parking Lot is gone, yeah, anymore. Is that where the restaurants ended up being put in? I think it's apartments. I think there's a restaurant, yeah, there's like a Mexican, something on the corner. Yeah, interesting. So that's very cool. I'm excited for that to come out. Yeah, that'd be awesome. And you've got more books, as you said, Yeah, on the horizon. Get a novel coming out in probably spring. Obviously, uh, I'm gonna cut it for a second. I finally was able to sit down and read that because I wanted to take a time to just read the whole thing in one sitting. Yeah, and it is fucking amazing. It's really good, it's really interesting. It's uncomfortably timely. Yeah, it was a COVID, right? So, okay, there's a lot of similarities going on there. I can tell that. And then the words coupled with Corbin art corpus is just, he's insanely good, yeah, and the they just smelled fantastic together, because you guys have worked together so long that there's synchronicity there that just comes together. And it's really good. Highly recommended. Thank you. That's very kind. I'm really proud of it, just because it's so weird. The whole, you know, the whole thing is just a weird thing to hold in your hand. The idea was that I was actually going to make it a calendar, you know, because the dates, if you look on the background of the pages, the dates correspond with 2025, dates. And I just couldn't figure out how to do that. I still might do it, if I could figure it out. Yeah, yeah. That's, I mean, that's a cool, like, side version that you could do, yeah, for sure, which is interesting too. In the book, it's not just art on the one side. There's also the notes that I couldn't figure out how to do on because you can go to any place and get a calendar made, but they've got their calendar part set up. You just give them images for the image part. And I was like, I want to keep, yeah, his doodles and everything. So you might need to do a mix of like Photoshop, and so you would take the calendar template, download it, do all the little side notes and stuff you want to Photoshop, and then resubmit it for printing as just a PDF, right? So yeah. And then I was shown a site that does allow you to, like, personalize the day court. I was like, hmm, I think I could probably do this when I get some free time. I heard somebody finished writing the thing, so maybe, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, well, wrap up then, yeah, gosh, mostly, I just want to thank everybody who who gets in and gives us money or supports us in any way, even if it's just liking and sharing posts and, you know, interacting on the strange. Eons talk page, which is, you know, the first thing that I pop onto, if I go on the internet, is just what's everybody talking about on the page? Yeah. So I really appreciate all of you guys. I really appreciate the two of you putting up with, you know, my shenanigans. Well, I appreciate the two of you having me on your show. It's really cool. This is your show. It's been five, more than five, six years you were there, but I still feel very privileged to be here so well, yeah, I love you guys. I love all of you guys out there. BTS, art Jesus. Okay, what's the topic for the next episode? Well, it's not Gerard Butler, but it is Nazis. Talk about timely Christmas time is a very special time of year. And when I think about Jesus Christ, the Battle of the Bulge, people who took it perhaps too far, and those people would be the Germans in the 40s, wow. I mean, okay, anyways, I cannot make this thread work. I cannot pull it. I am pulling as hard as I can. I can't I don't know why I ended up on not that there was a film I wanted to do. We're talking about Nazis. I like it sure to say that it's seven short days where we're talking about Nazis. See you next Thursday, transportation and other considerations for strange eons radio produced by Pan Am airlines. When you think of traveling, think of Pan Am. You can't beat the experience. Guess the strange eons radio stay at econolodge Everett. It's an easy stop on the road. Strangeeons radio is recorded live in front of a studio audience. 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