312 ANIMATION OF SOME KIND!

312 ANIMATION OF SOME KIND!

The gang discusses shorter and shorter theatrical runs before jumping in to their films that have animation... of some kind... in them. Or something.

Also discussed:George A Romero's Resident Evil, Reacher, Vera.

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Well, I was like, Oh, this is meant to piss everybody off. Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition. So have such sites to show you. Strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons radio. That is Eric over there, hello, and that is Vanessa over there, hello, and I am Kelly gang. It is so nice to see you all in person. Yes, glad you're feeling better, and yeah, or hope you're feeling better. I guess, yes, I am feeling better. Actually, I'm glad we talked about this before I showed up. Yes, now I'm feeling good. Hey, I was just reading something, and I don't know if you guys have read this, that the guy who runs AMC Theaters is calling out the studios for their short release windows in theaters. And I did not realize this was a studio decided thing, even. And so he's saying he would like them to have longer windows. I understand that, and the reason that they are not is because the studio gets 50% of the profits when it is in the movie theater, and they they split that within the theater chain right when it goes to video on demand, rentals and stuff, they get 80% of the profits. So a lot of this stuff we're even seeing about box office is bullshit, because they make up so much of that on their video rentals. Oh, interesting, yeah, that makes it really hard to tell if movies are profitable, right? An example of that going way back for two or three people we have that listen to us, that are under 35 the video release used to be a really big, big deal for that. And when I was working at Suncoast, we didn't rent, we sold. So when Dances with Wolves came out, it was $100 movie, right? And that was true for almost all movies sell through to direct to a low price is very rare. So you'd have it in the theater for as long as the theater could hold on to it, which could be up to, I mean, in that time, up to years, sometimes, like in the 70s and 80s especially. And then for a while it was a video rental block, which was usually a minimum of six months. So six months to a year, buying that movie would cost you 100 bucks on VHS. And then at some point, then DVD came out, and the studio said, we're not doing rentals on DVDs. We're going straight to sell through and that's the only way you can get it. So, sorry, Blockbuster, you don't get your little window of opportunity. And from there, you know, they just keep shrinking and shrinking and shrinking and drinking. And I think the, obviously, the lockdown had a severe impact on that, and then studios probably went, Oh, wow. You know what? We still made a crap ton of money releasing it on max or whatever during that time when we didn't have a theatrical release. So would you like to take a guess at what the average length of stay in a theater is for a big movie last year? God, I'd be surprised if it's over 30 days. I was gonna say 30 days. 32 days is the average. Wow. Companion, 18 days before it went to video on demand. Oh, man and Deadpool. Wolverine, 67 days, which is the highest number, so once it goes on. VOD, does that mean they're pulling it from chains, or just means people are less likely to go and see them at chains. Well, like for companion, it was only in the theater for 18 days. That's crazy. Well, I'm glad I saw it. Holy hell. So just interesting stuff there, as we're seeing the world change, the industry change, and it's got to be really frustrating, too, because I'm noticing, of course, each year, right before the Oscars, the theaters are flooded with all these movies. Hey, again, yeah, come and see all these films that we're about to talk about on the award season. And it's got to be so frustrating to be like I wanted to program you before, and I only got you know however many days out of it. Now I have to figure out how to fit you into a two week slot randomly. Before you know, the Oscar season. That's makes like the terrifier too specifically, really impressive, because they they pushed almost two months of indie thing. Just saying, Nope, we're going to keep in theater and keep it in theater. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, there's a lot of cache to that. As an independent filmmaker, right? That universal doesn't care about, yeah, but I noticed terrifier Three did not do that. It came out and it had a regular site, whatever the window was, it was definitely not, oh, we're holding it over for another two weeks. I don't remember that happening at all for three so then probably, okay, this happened. Now we're going to go a different distribution model that's going to generate more income for us, right? Yeah, that one, that one's a weird one too, because it it costs so little, yeah, to make. And then, you know, however long was in the theaters. Had to pay for everything that it cost and more. So they were able to kind of turn that into a stunt stay or something like that. Yeah, so I don't know, just interesting stuff, yeah, wow, yeah. Well, I'm still going to theater. So I don't know, I appreciate that I saw some movies, guys, good, good. One that you're both going to want to see, especially you, Vanessa, I saw George A Romero's Resident Evil. What is this? This is a documentary, okay, about the fact that George Romero was making a movie based on the video game and and it all fell apart. I remember when this was happening. Oh yeah. And it's super interesting because it starts out with the creation of the game. The documentary does and talks all about that. And they talk about how the game was so influenced by Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead and so by Resident Evil two, that's when they started talking about a movie, and Romero got involved, and apparently his script was full of all the stuff from the first two games. Wow. And they were all very excited about it and all this. But then, you know, a few things change, and all of a sudden it, you know, falls apart and goes to what was that? Paul WS Anderson, and completely changed it, yeah, it sounds sort of like a slightly different but a version of Joe taraski dune documentary, yeah, not nearly as in depth as that, but it is still very, very interesting. And I just think Vanessa, you will get a kick out of watching all of these eight bit graphics that were what they were originally basing the game on, and then all of a sudden, PlayStation and all of this and, and I was watching this going, Oh yeah, you know, I had a Playstation and that was one of my favorite games to play. And I'm looking at the graphics on this now, going, Oh my God. I remember, you know, playing this in the dark and being freaked out. Yeah, it looks so awful. Doom. Was that for me, that same kind of period, and you go back, oh, really, that was a creepy game. 100% isn't your husband like a massive Resident Evil fan? He is. Yeah, he's a huge Resident Evil fan. But yeah, I mean, he bought the box set with the umbrella on him, whatever, and we're making our way through. They all darled. They're all blending together for me. But as somebody who works in games like I find that super interesting, because, you know to like, you always want to see there's a possibility of carpenter doing dead space, and you're like, because he loves the game, and like, Oh my God, just let him do it, even if it's awful, let him do it. You know, you just there are these moments where the two worlds intersect, and it's just such an easy place to do that in. So I don't know that sounds really fascinating to me, so I'd love to check that out. Yeah, it is a rental, but it's cheap rental. It's like 299 and it really, really worth your time. Really interesting stuff. It is called George A Romero's Resident Evil. All right, I'm writing it down right now. Well, I checked out a movie that I think Eric had talked about last week, which was the monkey I did, yeah, yeah. It's so fucking good. Like, yeah, okay, that that's a comedy I can get behind. I don't know why, which is weird, because it's fairly slap sticky. It is, I don't know what it is that I don't like about comedy that, like, I hate in most, especially horror comedy. Fuck I hate so much horror comedy. Sorry, it's so bad. But this, maybe it's just intention, like, this was just really, like, a lovely film, like, about bad things happening to people. And I heard an interview with the filmmaker, which was really cool, where he was saying, you know, when I was growing up, all these horrible things were happening. I think he lost a lot of people in his life through, like, insane tragedies. And he was like. You know, you think that it's just you, and then as you get older, you realize that it happens to everybody. And he was like, that's kind of where the heart of this movie came from. And I was like, That's so incredible, because you can see that all over it. It's not just about people just imploding in crazy ways, which is pretty funny, like they don't a lot of them don't suffer. They don't have time. A couple, the aunt suffers quite badly. But there's also one of the funnier segments, I think, in the whole thing, the swimmer. I thought that was about, you even have time? Yeah, no suffering there, you know? But yeah, there was just, um, there's a couple, like, loosey, weird little strands in there where you think something's gonna go somewhere, and then they just lose it. But for the most part, just a really strong film. I love the talent in it, the guy who's the lead in there. I have not seen him and stuff, but he's so good that we started watching the gentleman now, just to, like, watch something he's in. He's great. He's pretty good, man. I've still not seen this, but I really want to you should, sounds like it jumped the line real well for you, where he sat on that weird line for me, of Well, it's kind of this really supposed to be but, you know, I also saw it at 10am with three other people. So, you know, I did see it at like, 10pm with probably through other people. You know, shocker, I'm on a bunch of Stephen King pages on Facebook, and this movie has divided the fans. Some of them absolutely love it, and some of them really fucking hate it. Care about what Stephen King thinks, because, like, Stephen King's really, really loves us. So I don't, do you want to say the opinion of Stephen King for movies, say that they don't put a lot of faith into him saying something nice about adaptations, I was curious, because, like, it is wild, like that the where he decides how he feels about different adaptations of his stuff. I think that when they know he's going to be interviewed, because he's a fucking rock star, and so they probably give him a little extra money and a contract that says, You can't bad mouth the movie wells in theaters. Oh sure. So he you can tell when he says, you know, these kind of roundabout compliments for like the Dark Tower. He's like, Well, it's not what I wrote, but they got to the same ending. You know? It's stuff like that. Okay, there's also a period for a few years, largely in the video boom, where I love this movie. This is the best horror film ever created, and with some exceptions, like his love of Evil Dead, it usually meant this movie's probably not gonna be, yeah, he just said, you see his write ups on a lot of stuff too, like, like books and things. Like, if you could get Stephen King to say, well, frankly, anything about your book? Yeah, even if he said this book sucks. Stephen King, yeah, I'm putting that out there. The other thing is that if you look at, like, Maximum Overdrive or creep show two films, he had a big, strong hand in he likes silly horror. He likes, you know, over the top Tales from the Crypt kind of stuff. And so that's the, that's his taste in movies. So if it's over the top and silly, I think that he loves that kind of shit, yeah? So we probably honestly like this one. Yeah, that's cool, yeah. Oh, alright. Well, you should check it out. I need to, yeah, as you know, moving in with my 83 year old father in law has altered my watching television severely. But one of the really, really great things to come out of this is this series called Vera, which is British, the BBC show. They, I forget, I know they're not called series or seasons over there. They're like reversed, but whatever it is, it's got like, 15 seasons, and each season is only like four or five episodes, because they're 90 minute episodes. And the stars Brenda blythin, who's won an Oscar before, she was in Pride and Prejudice and secret lies and holy shit, she is phenomenal. She does these expressions and these cute little noises when she's like to react to things, and it's just Pitch Perfect. And some all the episodes are well done. Some of them are phenomenal. I one of them two or three episodes back were somewhere in like ninth or 10th season. I like, Who the fuck directed this one, because it gorgeous shot after gorgeous shot. And this they do, you know, the police procedural thing where they're all in the room and they've got their board and they talk about that. And He came up with this fascinating looking shot part, which used the lights, the hanging lights from the ceiling, to frame it in, like a V way. And so I was like, who thinks of that? This is, who is this guy? And all I could find is just, he does a lot of BBC TV, so occasionally there's, there's a nice budget in this show, because it sometimes it looks at least mid level theatrical all the time. And depending on who's either written the episode or directing the episode, it goes above. She's always great. She is never a sour note. There's a one season, one of the almost nothing bad happens to the cops. They seem to change a lot of actors, but one season, one of them got shot, and her facial reaction to her officer dying was just devastating. I'm just like, Oh, my God, this is amazing. It is. It's a fantastic show. Apparently, it's in its last season. It's still going, but this is its last year. But does that mean that it has been on for 15 years more or less? Wow, that's long for a BBC show, except for Doctor Who forever? Yeah, well, Vera, I assume it's based off of the same material that the film was there was like, Okay, there's a film that was, I believe, British, that came out years ago, and my original editing mentor cut it. So, yeah. So it's, yeah, it was kind of a cool, one of those cool projects that was out there. Yeah, I wonder if it's based on the same idea, or they don't say anything here in the listing, referencing the book doesn't mean anything. Yeah, the and sometimes, like the one we watched last night, just unbelievably depressing. The storyline that by the resolution like, and it's nice because, you know, you watch American procedurals, and the end of Act One, beginning of Act Two, you pretty much know who it's going to be. And they do a great, weird little trick thing, where, whenever they talk to somebody, and if it goes like, I'm not sure where they may they always do a long shot, if the person standing there watching looking like suspicious or interested or just something to make you remember that person, as opposed to a law and order, whatever. There's the always, okay, yeah, it's gonna be this guy, this guy who shows up, kind of says something and then disappears, you never see him again, that that's the person it's gonna be, yeah? But that does not happen in this show. So if you like mystery shows at all, Vera it's, I think it's just on brick box, the British one, but well worth it. You know, take the two week free whatever, and watch a shitload of really good mystery shows. Yeah, there's, I think that's one of the things I miss the most about living in the UK, is they had such quality television. And then you come over here and you don't hear anything about it, and I'm like, I know there's so much cool stuff that's just existed that I have no concept of. But for the Sci Fi and horror stuff makes it over here, the genre stuff will make it over but a lot of the general but even things like ghosts and what was the what was the show with the like it was a werewolf, a ghost and a vampire, human being, human that took a long time to get here, and then when it did, we immediately adopted it. But like I'd seen that I ages before it showed up here. So I don't know it's, yeah, well, get Brit box re plugged in. I just canceled so many subscriptions. I'm going through my taxes, and I'm like, Oh my God, why am I paying for all this bullshit? Yes, yeah, if I could cancel Hulu, I would do it, and I'm fucking hate that it's so linked into Disney. Now the assholes, I figures we're about five years away from having Comcast level. Yeah, Paramount's buying this company, and Disney's buy what is it? ESPN, Hulu, CB or not, CS, AB, NBC, ABC, whoever Disney's, yeah, yeah, we're getting there. Man, being human, I kind of want to do a full rewatch. I know it was good. Did you watch the was it the American one or the British one that you I watched the British one because I had watched the American one. But I have to admit, I like the American one, but I think I need to watch the American one because the British one ends in like, such a weird way that it was a real bummer to me. So us. One is was a lot more fun. The characters were a lot it was a lot more fun to watch. Yeah, the British one was oddly serious, yeah, it was very serious, yeah. There was a lot of, like, depressing moments, and I remember it being a real bummer, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, then also you guys, you got to be on top of this. I don't know if Marth likes this, the new season of reacher. I have been on top watched it yet, but I am planting seeds. I think, I think, I mean, I don't care if we got to go back and watch the first two seasons, but I'm pretty sure we can get him to watch that one, yeah, but the, the Vera things kind of, but, God, I think we got, like, less than a couple weeks left worth of episodes. So okay, well, it's, it's great, you know, I, I didn't love season two, and this one is already, you know, four episodes in much, much better. It feels like to me I don't love it. No, no, okay. I read the book The second one was based on, and I can see I know why the second season wasn't as good, because that book wasn't this. Oh, that's true. I don't know if they're continuing. I don't know what book this one's based on. It actually says what book it is. And I can't remember now, and I've never read any of the book, so I can't tell you if they're close or not, but I just like him, yeah, you know, he's just this huge fucking dude can do anything mostly because of his size, yeah. And they finally found somebody bigger to trailer, yeah. And I the the FBI agent that he is working with, it has taken me a long time to warm up to her, but, yeah, I'm starting same and I like it. What don't you like about it? I don't like the FBI agent. I think her accent is a big what is her accent? It's like, almost like, it's a New Jersey. Or, like, No, I think it's supposed to be Maine. Maine, really, yeah. But she she falls in and out of it. So I'm like, might have been a good idea to just not have this. Yeah, it's really irritating. The my first comment was like, I Please don't make me watch them have sex. I know, but it's so awful. Oh, rachel, my eyes and ears for that whole thing, because I was like, oh, fuck, man, I can't like, she's not an unattractive woman, but every time she opens her mouth, I'm like, Oh, stop, please. The thing is, she's not a gorgeous woman either. She's not gorgeous what you would expect for his leading lady season two. You're like, I get it, yeah, I get it, no. And I think between that and we're sort of stuck in this location that I'm not psyched about. Like, some of the characters I feel like are a little I don't know, it's just not hitting some notes for me, I do like the relationship between him and the Son, yeah, I think that whole story with just the kid specifically, is really cool, but like the dad and like the the guy who is the main main, main guy, I'm like, main main, main main guy. Did you just see the barn the most recent episode? No, I think that just came out, right? Yeah, I have not seen that one. Yeah, it's hard for me to marry together. The like, this guy is a psychopath, crazy, horrible dude, and you're like, I don't know he's like, kind of a lame Asian man who I wouldn't I don't think I'd want to talk to at a party, but I don't know that I'd be like, concerned about, like, the safety of anyone within like, a, you know, one mile radius of him. Like, I just, I don't buy this guy, so, yeah, I think I'm more with you on it. I really don't as long as that guy. Alan, yeah, it's playing that character, no reach, whatever kind of runs into, yeah, okay, no. I mean, there's a reason why I'm still watching it like he's fucking awesome. No matter what situation you put him in, he's great. So there is some shockingly bad acting so far in this, mostly from the FBI agent. Yeah, her reaction sometime will be like, yeah, was she directed to do that? Or did they finally just go, she's not going to do any better than that well. And like, her assistant kid guy isn't very good either. He's all big reactions too, yeah, and I think some of the mob guys are like that. So yeah, some of the mob guys, I was like, sounds like, I don't like it, but I do like, also Anthony Michael Hall as as the bad guy. Oh, all right, as the as the Dad, did you recognize it not put that together. Always nice to see Anthony Michael Hall still getting work. So weird. Now I have to his villain takes before he's played a villain a few times. Oh, I have not he does alright with it. Crazy. Yeah. Reacher. John prime, cool and I saw a movie that we talked about ages ago. Finally got around to watching strange, darling, good which, yeah, I'm so glad I finally saw because it was on everybody's lists for last year, and, you know, has been so hyped. Yeah, yeah. It was definitely not what I expected it to be. There were things I really loved about it, like, I think the editing is amazing. That's true. I love the way the story unfolds. I just, yeah. I really, really dig that the core of what the story is. I think I was like, okay, all right, yeah, that's kind of me too, yeah. Like, I was sort of, you know, once you once you know, you're like, all right. And I had that moment where I was like, Is that gonna be, what is this gonna be a twist? And I was like, okay, that's what the twist is. And now I have to spend time with you. But, but the overall, very strong movie, very, very strong movie. I thought it was going to be more like, what was that one with the girl who goes to the guy's place and he kidnaps her and he's chopping up these girls for their body parts and selling their meat. Oh, wow, that does not ring a bell. Oh, she's, like, on a she's also on like, a bad date, and they'd like, run sweetheart or something like that. The real rich kind of takes her out in the woods. Yeah, that was, I like, that art on his wall, yeah? Like, I thought it was gonna be more in that vein, but it's a, I don't know it's, it's a very different version. Well, what I'd said before, the reason it kind of hit me weird is there, and this is just watching festival films that that storyline, that idea, has been done. I get two or three a year, every year where that twist is the storyline, yeah, so it's like 510 minutes, and then we're going, I hope this isn't going to move up. It's exactly what I think it is. But it is, but I still enjoyed because the performance were so good, and what they were doing was so much fun to watch again. Like, the way it unfolded really helps, like, any kind of frustration with that. Like, I feel like it really was neat to see, like, Okay, I like how they're manipulating this story to be told in one way and then another. There was a lot of neat things going on in there. Definitely well worth, well worth seeing. Yeah, strange darling. Is that, uh, just streaming now, I think I rented it. I think it's still around two, $3 Yeah, but yeah, I don't think anybody rental got it. I'm sure shutter will eventually pick it up. It seems like a shutter film. Yeah, so way off genre. Watched a film called free solo I've wanted to watch for a really long time you just never have, which is the story of a guy, Alan Hannah, who wants to climb El Capitan in Yosemite with no ropes. Holy shit. This movie is awesome. It's so intense and it's so wild. He is such a weird guy. He's a really interesting, strange, but kind of likable in his goofiness. And his girlfriend helps, because she's just funny and interesting on screen, and the group, the people around him, and there's the part, I'm glad they went there, because I'm watching this gone. How the hell do you shoot this right? And they've been, they, they covered the camera guys a little while, and them talking about, What the What do? What if we show him we're shooting, and he falls, and it's just like, and they built the tension so well. I mean, it's a movie, you know, he succeeds. So it's sort of like that movie years ago with the guy walking across the high tower in still. It's like, and it's so well done and so thoroughly enjoyed this. This was on your favorite Hulu. But if it's not just a sports movie, it's that conquering concept of doing something no one's ever done before. And I mean, I've done enough climbing that I get the idea. But my version of the rock climbing he's done was probably, like, four or five bodies high. Where you the side of it is 1000s and 1000s of feet. It's just like, I Oh, man, it was so cool. So highly, highly recommend. Did they, like, strap a bunch of GoPros on this guy? Or, like, how did they get it's all, he has three or four camera guys, and it looked like they went through in key spots. It looks like you've seen it, yeah, okay. It looks like they went in key spots and just knocked in a camera, right? So just get a general shot. But they had, what, three, at least three camera guys, yeah, that were following him around. And, uh. Yeah, because I imagine every time you see something like, I was thought it was funny, with amazing race, you're like, okay, yeah, you're running and whatever, but there's a guy next to you with all that camera running right next like, I'm sorry, anything you think you're doing cool right now is nowhere near as good as what that guy's doing. I hated this movie because I, as I've gotten older, you know, I always had kind of a slight fear of heights, and as I've gotten older, I've got a huge fear of heights now. And there's, it's such a difference, like I can go up to the Space Needle and stand on the glass floor, no problem, but there's that idea of being, you know, on the edge of a cliff, yeah, with nothing to hold on to, that really terrifies me now. And so watching that just amped my anxiety up so much. It is a really good movie, but I was just like, I will never watch this again. And then you went and talked about a movie, oh, the one with the Roman Yeah, and I saw the trailer for it, and I was like, fuck this. Now, this movie will destroy me. I've managed to do the same thing to myself with claustrophobia. We're watching so many films, starting with the descent, and then these films where people get in. And I I've never felt claustrophobic, but now I see a thing feel that like, like when they go in the the I've seen a few places use it for just investigation stuff, but those the Vietnam underground tunnel things, where they drop into these little holes about that big. I was like, Oh my god. So yeah, but for some reason, height, and maybe it is my teenage years of climbing, adrenalizes me. It. I find it really, really interesting, so it makes me feel sick, yeah, immediately, yes, it's one of the biggest. I mean, heights is one of the top phobias, yeah, yeah, no, it's, it's definitely real. I went to Grand Canyon two years ago. Oh, wow. And it's one of those things where it's like, yes, it's majestic, and it's one of the great wonders of the world. I literally was staying like, you are there, you're you can just tumble, yeah, like, there's nothing stopping you from just dying all the time. And so at one point, I just turned around and looked at like the little grass patch next to the parking and there were some squirrels. And I was this is cool. Watch the squirrels go up and down the tree. I also much better. I also grew up next to Snake River candy, which I guess is like one of the top five BASE jumping areas in the world. Now, I mean, you cannot go by there on a decent weather day and not see four or five people back in their thing, some guy walking out and people all the time. Wow. And so, yeah, I grew up with that, you know. And of course, they didn't do that. It's funny too, because, like, I'm, I don't have any problem at all with water, like, that's having grown up on an island. I'm, like, if I fall off a ferry boat, I'll probably be okay. It's really the cold that's going to get you or, you know, and even, like, large bodies of water and stuff, it doesn't really wake me up, or being in a lake, like, because that was what I did every day of summer for my whole childhood through 18. So it that kind of stuff doesn't so I think you're right. I think there's something about exposure and just normalizing something that, like with heights like that has never been but as a kid, yeah, it was no big deal. I used to climb up like the little see through wire stairs to, you know, the topic, cathedrals and, you know, little mountainy things. And it was fine, so I don't know Anyway, that was a tangent. Very special, strange. We take a little break, I can calm down. And then when we come back, we are talking about animation of some kind. Yeah, Best topic ever you shall bonds. We have returned Vanessa i. I still don't quite understand this topic. I don't know how you don't understand this topic. Explain it to me and everybody. All right, so animated films, any form of animation that includes stop motion, claymation, whatever, animated movies, plus, if you want, if there's no animated films out there on planet earth that you guys want to watch, which sometimes there's not, because you fight me on animation every time that it can even be a small segment of a normal live action movie, a live action movie like better off dead, that has stop motion elements in it. That would be okay. That would be acceptable. Is this making any sense. I will push back the little in my thinking, in the interpretation, because this was all text based stuff. I thought you meant a live action movie that had some form of animation in it. Oh, my God, not a full let's see. It wasn't just Kelly. I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna do one that's got animation in it, which is what I ended up doing, because you guys were doing that. And I was like, No, I'm trying to make this easier. And Kelly's like, how is this easier? And I was like, I don't know how it's harder at all. This is pretty much every movie on Earth to an extent. I mean, it'd be nice not to just we couldn't do opening credits, right? Because Come on, there's enough out there making me miss the days of fog. Vanessa, why don't you start us off? I'm giving you five minutes. That's a great topic. Um, all right, so I went with the movie from 2001 Millennium actress this fall, experience One of the most highly anticipated anime films. Millennium actress, from the director of Perfect Blue Satoshi Kon comes the story of a legendary actress, the mystery of her past and the search for the key that will unlock a lifelong secret. Winner, best animation film, and won the grand prize for animation with Academy Award winner Spirited Away, loved by critics around the world. Millennium actress, so this is one of those animes that's kind of been on my list of to watch forever. It's by the same person who did Perfect Blue. Yeah. So Written and directed by Satoshi Khan, who, well, actually has 13 writing credits and 10 directing credits to his name, but it includes paprika, Perfect Blue paranoid paranoia agent series Tokyo Godfathers, so some pretty heavy hitters starring a bunch of Japanese people who no one will know about. So there you go. The story follows Chiyoko Fujiwara, a renowned former actress and star for the studio, Jenny has become a reclusive figure, disappearing from film at the height of her career while the studio is being reconstructed and basically demolished, a documentary documentarian named Kenya touchy BANA requests an interview with her. In exchange, he brings her a key he found, and she accepts him and his camera man who go to her home to basically talk to her about her life. So this is an older lady who is basically talking about her career. He asks about the key and what it opens. And she says, it opens the most important thing, and then begins to tell the story of the key and her whole film career. She was born in 1923 during an earthquake which took her father's life, and then when she was at school, she was discovered, but not allowed to act because her mom wanted her to help at the sweet shop. However, during the country's internal turmoil, she meets by accident a political dissident painter who's being pursued by the police. She helps him and hides him in their family shed, and he has the key. She tries to guess what it opens but she can't figure it out, and she begs him not to tell her, because she wants to find out herself. The next day, the police have found him again and try to catch him at a train station where he escapes. She finds the key on the ground and rushes it towards him, but of course, misses the train. From that point forward, the stories of the film of her film career and her life are intertwined. I. What you see as films that she starred in becomes moments from her life, and vice versa. It goes from moment to moment, showcasing all kinds of different periods of Japanese film as well. So sometimes she's dressed in different Japanese eras of garb, and from Super historical samurai pictures to more modern day films. It ends on a science fiction film. So as it goes through, even the documentarian begins to show up in the films, because maybe perhaps at one point, he intersected with her life in an important way. Initially, this movie feels a lot like Muppet Christmas Carol, holy shit, watching, you know, you could have given me a lot of guesses, and that would never have been one of them. You're like, watching her in these films and talking about her life, and then the crew was just there, but the guy with, like, you know, walking around, following her down the street, and the other guy with, like, the camera, you know, following her, and you're just like, it feels like the mouse and Gonzo in Muppet Christmas Carol. So, you know, it's interesting. I thought that this film, it doesn't actually have a crazy ton of plot. Basically, she's trying to figure out this guy with the key. She wants to follow Him and find Him, and she basically falls in love with him, but she can't. She can never get a hold of this guy, and her entire life moves along through that motion. But it's super fast. It's gorgeous, it's crazy, it's frenetic. I hate the final line of the movie because it feels very deep for 2001 but it's stupid, so I will say maybe just if that one piece wasn't there, it'd be a lot better just trivia. The character of Chiyoko herself is somewhat reminiscent of Situ suku Hara, a famed Japanese movie star from the 1940s 50s and 60s, who likewise withdrew suddenly from public life, Satoshi Khan has recognized this influence in an interview, also citing hidoku takamin, who insisted that shioko is primarily a universal human character, despite having at least two people references various photographic evident effects of aging are used in order to make Chicago Shio goes film seem old. They were filmed separately and passed through different labs. And tell us any processes from the rest of the film. No CG effects were used. So every time it looks like a different era, it's because they're using a different film process. A visual NOD is made to the films of uh, Ozu, I'll finish this up in a scene where the protagonist is talking with her mother, which is framed in the director's iconic style, um. Commercially, the film performed modestly in the US, earning $37,285 during its three week release. The film was shown almost exclusively in New York and LA and received minimal advertising campaign from Go Fish pictures. But it did really well in Japan. It received a grand prize at the Japan agency of Cultural Affairs Media Arts Festival, tying with Spirited Away. It won awards for best animated film at the Fantasia 2001 film festival and featured in the eighth animation Coby awards. They wanted to use it for the Oscars that year, but it they they ultimately weren't able to. So anyways, that's that fully animated weird Oscars tonight, too. Oh, God. I am always surprised that the Japanese animation movies, for some reason I thought they were all horror, fantasy, sci fi stuff, and so you've come with a couple of these that were like, straight dramas and stuff like that. I'm like, This is so interesting that they were able to get past the cartoons and for kids, oh yeah. And I think relatively quickly too, I think that that idea of what art is is so impactful and meaningful in Japanese culture that it's not just like, oh well, it's drawn. So therefore it's for kitties. It's more like it's art, and it can tell any kind of story through any way it wants, because it has limitless possibilities. Yeah, interesting. The one too, because I've seen not a lot of anime, but two of this directors, and both a bit like paprika Siff and then I talked about Perfect Blue on one of our episodes. Yeah, both fantastic. So, yeah, definitely want to check this one out, absolutely, I would highly recommend his work, and I Tokyo god of fathers is also on my list. It's more of a Christmas movie, so I might wait for around Christmas time. But yeah, just incredible, weird, interesting, fast paced stuff as an aside. And. Going to put in a little bowl here. And when we go over the five minutes, we each have to drop $1 and then at the end, I take that money and I go drink with it. This isn't going to help your trying to help my anxiety. I know exactly I'm going to have to break 20s and make dollars appear. I'll cover myself in full next 20 episodes right here, right now, Eric, if you don't mind, I will go next. Dive in. Enjoy. Got five minutes on here, and I am talking about the cinematic masterpiece osmosis. Jones did this. Once a deadly virus a set he at risk two unlikely heroes, and it's all inside this man's body. This summer, we're going into a body under attack from a killer virus and contagious. You burst it, give it up. Why? You hit so hard? It's the action comedy that gets under your skin. You invented the city of Frank into your stomach and up your nose, just the way I like it. Extra disgusting, please. You're going to make me vomit. Oh, moment again. Chris Rock, I'm dealing with a white blood cell here. Molly Shannon, what is it? I mean, what is it? What do you want? Chris Elon and Bill Murray, Hey, have some class, will ya? Oh, my God, I got the giggles. Osmosis Jones, Dad, I'm feeling better already. 2001 directed by the Farrelly brothers, oh. 24 credits, including Dumb and Dumber. There's Something About Mary Kingpin, shallow hell Ricky staniki, written by Mark Hyman, who has 11 credits, including the perfect score Meet the Fockers and 26 episodes of Ozzy and Drakes starring Bill Murray. 110 credits, including Caddyshack stripes, Tootsie, Ghostbusters, Scrooge, Groundhog Day, the Royal Tenenbaums, lost in translation, and 75 episodes of Saturday Night Live also on this are the voices of Chris Rock, who has 88 credits, including New Jack City, Lethal Weapon four dogma and spiral just recently, and then a Very important appearance on the Oscars. David Hyde Pierce, who has 64 credits, including Sleepless in Seattle, Sleepless in Seattle, Adams, family values and the exorcism. Lawrence Fishburne, who has 192 credits, including the matrix movies, Mystic River. John Wick, chapter 239, episodes of Hannibal and then Brandy Norwood, William Shatner, Ron Howard, kid, rock and Uncle cracker. Have you guys seen osmosis? Jones? Absolutely not. We start with our live action hero, Frank De Tora, who is a slovenly zoo keeper at a zoo in Rhode Island. He has recently widowed, and much to the frustration of his 10 year old daughter, Shane, he is a very unhealthy eater and has minimal concern for germs or disease. In fact, while trying to eat a hard boiled egg with mayonnaise and tons of salt, it is stolen from him by a chimpanzee, he gets it back, but not before it falls into the filth of the chimps habitat, and when Shane is disgusted by him about to eat it, he uses the 10 second rule as justification, and that does, in fact, eat it. This kicks off the animated part of the movie, where we are introduced to the idea of Frank as a massive city of anthropomorphize blood cells, bacteria and all of that. We meet Osmosis Jones, who is an adventure seeking white blood cell and an agent of the Frank Police Department. He is a rebel, frequently mocked by his fellow police officers for disobeying authority to do what he thinks is right. Jones has been relocated to the mouth to fight germs entering the body via ingestion as punishment after he induced Frank to vomit on Shane's science teacher when he jumped the gun and suspected an incoming pathological threat from a raw oyster that Frank had eaten from one of the displays. So Jones sees the germs from the chimps habitat come in, and he wants to treat it very seriously, but the rest of the cops think the germs are only gingivitis and they accidentally allow them to slip through and into Frank's system. Jones disobeys orders and goes after them. Meanwhile, Mayor Fleming is preparing for re election as the mayor of Frank, and his campaign hinges on his promises of more junk food. His reckless policies are largely responsible for Frank's declining health, and with all of this going on, everyone else has missed the arrival of. Thrax, a deadly virus that was in the hard boiled egg. Thrax is an awesome villain, voiced by Lawrence Fishburne, and he'd be right at home in the movie heavy metal. He is constantly humming the song fever, which I thought was clever. Fleming suspects what is happening with Thrax, but to cover it up, he has Frank take a cold suppressant medicine who arrives in pill form and turns into a Robocop kind of character named Drix, which is short for Drex and all cold relief. And he is assigned as Jones partner to try and find out what's happening to Frank's body. The movie turns into a fun body cop film, buddy cop film, playing the straight laced by the books cop and Jones, the wild card, who knows something more is going on in Frank's body, and this is all cut back and forth to Bill Murray interacting with other people as he gets sicker and sicker, but thinks he just has a bad cold. There is some gross out humor, as you might expect in a movie about the way the body works, but Murray is hilarious. Of course, there is the ticking time bomb of Frank's health, but also the idea that Drax is only there for temporary relief of these symptoms, so he and Jones need to find out and stop what is happening before Frank gets too sick to be saved. You guys, I heard only bad things about this movie. It is a fucking delight. It is awesome. It is so much fun. If you you could do a lot worse if you have kids, than showing them a movie about how the body works and everything. I'm gonna run out of time, but I've got great trivia. Bill Mary's character mentions a national chicken wing festival in Buffalo, New York, and while the festival did not exist during the filming of the movie, this mention caused the organizers to create an annual festival in Buffalo, and has been held annually on Labor Day since 2002 holy smokes in the original script and early cuts of the film, a scene was featured where osmosis and Drex go to gonads gym. It involved them talking to the exercising sperm cells. The scene was cut in order to stay family friendly. The gonads gym logo does appear on Drex a suitcase during a scene in the police station. A statue of a sperm cell can be seen in the city square. It is labeled our founder in linseed a poster is shown that says Peace in the middle here. And the backgrounds have plenty of psychics, such as signs reading rectum exit only or slow sore throat ulcer repair and danger open nerve. According to the directors, Thrax is a souped up version of h5 n1 also known as burkeville. And finally, the fairly brothers wanted Harold Ramis to play Bob, the brother of Bill Murray's character. Despite being fully aware they had a professional and personal falling out eight years earlier on the set of Groundhog Day, they hoped Murray and Ramis could reconcile doing another movie together. However, Murray said he would not participate in the film if Ramos was cast, so they decided to offer the role to Chris Elliott. Murray and Ramis did eventually reconcile before Rami says Death in 2014 but never worked together on a movie again. I gotta say, this sounds amazing. It is so much fun. I was just like, clever. I have only heard bad things about it. It's actually got a decent Rotten Tomatoes rating and everything. It was just a massive flop. Yeah, so how was this green lit? Like this movie? Sounds insane. I think that it might have been. I don't know, but that that the writer who did 26 episodes of Ozzie and Drex, that's a spin off of this movie. So it got two seasons on Fox Kids and everything. It's, it's very funny, very clever, and I loved it. So as much as I was confused by this idea of yours, I found a really great Well, I'm really glad, I'm glad that that worked out. I would think, Okay, we got Bill Murray and the fairly brothers. So I think that there is a point where the fairly brothers could go, this is what we're making. And they would go, okay, Eric, you might not want to watch this movie because there's a lot of shots of him eating very badly, close ups and stuff like this. I was like, this will I might be scared of heights, but Eric is going to pass out if he watches this. Eric, are you ready? I am five minutes, buddy. All righty, I was originally kind of going to thinking I was going to talk about Natural Born Killers. I thought I don't want to talk about that movie after, especially after I watched Scala or the incredibly strange rise and fall of the world's wildest cinema and how it influenced a mix up generation of weirdos and misfits the screen staying with beer, the whole place shakes when the tubes run, stair systems trap, but we love it one more and the Scala mat magic. Listen up the cinema in the old abandoned embassy from the four times. It was like joining a club. People would talk more and more about the Scarlet. You should go to the Scarlet. It's really going on there a very secret club, like a biker gang or something. I thought the Scarlet was a kind of Wonder Woman. It's like they were a country club for criminals and lunatics and people that were high you don't, you know, get high on that shit and you start doing this, oh yes, we found one day treasure. They found the auteur version of sexploitation. And having felt myself to be a radical feminist, it felt most peculiar Scarlet. What kind of OSE doesn't freaks the world and so welcome, and it blow my mind, which is a good way to see movies you didn't go there, just in case you might trip over somebody having a shag on the carpet. I don't see us any harm in that at all. I said I think I have a dead body in my office. That's what it felt like. Can you dig it? You don't get that in a multiplex. Wow. So this is a Severan buy, and it's a documentary about a theater in the UK called Scala. And it is fabulous. It is such an interesting film. It's so the heart in this movie is huge, the love for film, The love for this particular theater and what it represented is directed by Ali cartel, this only film and Jane Giles only film, because I believe they're involved with Scala at one point. Actors you might may have sort of recognized that appear. Ralph Brown, who is in Stoker aliens. Three, the British life on Mars, the good life on Mars. 126, credits, Caroline Katz, who was in dark, Martin, Doc Martin and in fabric. And of course, John Waters, who was a frequent displayer of films at this place, and more than 40 other people involved with the various aspects of the theater. The basic breakdown is the theater was a place, place that anybody could be, who for the hell they wanted to be. It was a 478 seat cinema, so it was big. It ran all the time. Occasionally they did, like, a week long thing or something like that, at one or two movies. But basically it was two different movies every night and an all night marathon every Saturday. So hundreds and hundreds of movies. One of the the movies baked on. It's basically a books. One of the coolest things is when several option offers books with their movies. I always get the books because they have been fantastic. So this is the entire run of the theater. Basically, it's it's got the calendar of every month and then talks about it the next day. So 1986 and it just lists all of them throughout here. Whoa, tell the people who aren't watching what that is called. That is, I think it's the same name. Oh no Scala, club cinema by Jane Giles, boy, that is a beauty. Wow. Fantastic book. And the effort that went into that went into making this movie, it is just amazing. First last film screen there was the original King Kong. They also did music performances, and as such, Lou Reed and the Stooges Iggy Pop fame had their first London shows at the Scala. While I was still a theater, it's now a live event room, sort of like our own Neptune theater, very similar. John Waters attended a screening of one of his films and said it's the most fun he has ever had watching his movie with a crowd, because the crowds were just crazy. Like one of the stories was some guy there watching some another one of the weird, extreme movies that they would show, and he he would stand up every once in a while, yell at everybody in the theater. How are you watching this? Phil, sit down and continue to watch the movie. So it was full of all these weird, great stuff, or one of the flipping through there, one of the double bills that stood out for me was zardaz and the devils. Here's the top 10 movies they ever showed, racer the movies they showed most frequent. Like Eraserhead, Thunder crack, which I hadn't heard of, but is like gay porn, almost. It sounds like faster pussycat. Kill, kill, pink flamingos, Magic Lantern, psycho Texas, Chainsaw Massacre, el Topo, evil, dead Cafe flesh. And the movie that basically destroyed the theater was a screening of A Clockwork Orange. They screened it when it was not supposed to be shown in the UK. And I gotta tell you, this disappointed me a little bit to learn was kind of destroyed because Stanley Cooper sued them for showing it. Oh my god. And one the fee that came out of there basically was the nail in the coffin for the place like Cooper. Come on, man. But this movie took five years to make, funded by BFI, and actually did a after did a Kickstarter like got another 25 grand. Let's see what else there's also on the disc. The Severn disc has 1990 documentary featuring many of the same people that appear in the new one, produced by one of the guys who is, I don't think he's director, but he's in that and which is fascinating to watch, because as about two or three years before went away, it was late 70s to like 92 or 93 and I tell you, you love films. You need to watch this. It is such a love letter to films. It's available something called BFI player, so I'm not familiar with that. This is brand new. I mean, this was a seven release in January, so it just came out, so I'm sure it'll start showing up around fairly soon. But highly, highly recommend it nice. So where does the animation come in? There is they talk a lot about the movies they show and they show clips from it. So I snuck this in. When a giant stop motion tentacle creature with eyes attacks the theater there's animated doing it. I mean, realistically, it's not that much longer than the amount of animation that's in Natural Born colors. There's not a lot of that. I'm so excited about this. Um, I one of my favorite UK film reviewers, mark her mode, was obsessed with this movie, so I'm cool. I didn't even realize it was available at her so that's awesome. You had a good time with it, yeah. And if they, if they're still selling it with the book, highly recommended to just take that package. It's like a three disc set. It's the movie plus all the extras, and then two discs of short films that they would show, and that's on from seven. Oh, wow. I kind of mentioned this to you guys, but I actually used to live across this corner, around the corner from the Scala. And I think I only ever went there once, and it was hazy drunk Vanessa 20s, but they had a metropolis themed night, where there's three floors, I believe, and the top tier, yeah, and the top tier had heaven, and then the middle was like the industrial and then the lower bit was sort of like hell, and everybody was dressed in like gold. And, yeah, walking around like characters in the film was crazy. What is the name of the there's a massive tube station, Kings Cross, yeah, you can feel that in the theater. Oh, I'm sure I feel it might be, yeah, because all those trains are right underneath, and the main stations right there, so they all kind of come closer to the ground right and right in that, I mean, and it's on a busy intersection, so it would be noisy as fuck, like, that's, that's incredible. Is this the theater that you were talking about rats running? No, that was the Odeon Tottenham Court Road. No, no. I'm sure there were rats in the Scala too, absolutely. But, um, scared the crap out of people. That's what you mean. They just walked through the theater while the movie's going on, and people don't know what it was. In Prince Charles theater in Leicester Square, they have ninjas. So they have their staff dress up as ninjas. And if somebody's like, on their phone or disturbing or doing it, they go in and, like, escort them out. Yeah, which is pretty awesome. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, was that the one with the rats? No, just got the rats. It was an Odeon. It was, yeah, it was an audience. It was a big theater chain Tottenham Court Road, yeah, it was disgusting. Well, guys, I think that there was a lot of confusion over this, but we ended up with a with a good, solid show. Yeah, really good three. Solid, like next time, I'll just go for like, rain or sunshine, you know, I'll keep it. I'll keep it even more simple movies with using film. 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