319 REMEMBERING VAL KILMER

319 REMEMBERING VAL KILMER
Darren Aronofsky and Cujo: a match made in heaven?
Also discussed: Fight or Flight, Elevation, Bloody Axe Wound.

Transcript

Unknown: 0:00

You ready? Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and a superstition. How's I have such sights to show you. Strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons radio. That is Eric over there. Hello, that is Vaness over there. Hello, and I am Kelly, you guys, I was just reading something, and I'm not sure how I feel about this, but Darren Aronofsky, okay, now has been tapped to make The Cujo remake. Hmm, that's a unique choice. Bleak, it'll just be Black Swan, but with a dog. What I don't understand about this? First of all, you know my feeling on just remaking movies, especially when it's Stephen King properties, there's so much that hasn't been touched, and we're going to remake a movie that was good enough? Yeah, it didn't really require a remake. And I'm not sure there's a lot more to mine out of the story. I'm not sure what he's going to find, unless we're going to get, you know, like the dog's internal the darkness, the mom has drug issues and the kids been abused by his pastor or something, right? And it has to take place. It has to be a period piece, because the entire movie could not happen today. Just as soon as you've got your phone out, you can tell somebody you're being attacked by a giant dog. So I'm just not sure. But also, you know, I just don't understand why Aronofsky would even be interested in this is a weird combo. Like, it just feels like not a, not a thing that he would care about for sure. Yeah, unless this is just one of those things where, you know, everybody gets a little bit of fucking money when they agree to these things, whether it gets made or not, and maybe he thinks, yeah, I'll take the million dollar up front and develop this while I'm actually thinking about doing my other thing. I'm still kind of bummed that Fuller, Brian Fuller, never got his Christine off the ground, even though that was also a movie that was good enough and didn't need to be remade. The original for that. Some, some nobody, Vanessa, probably, why me. It's John Carpenter, okay, sorry, look like really. Okay, that's fair, yeah. So weird stuff happening in the world, true. Speaking of weird stuff, I started watching, God, you turn me into a fucking animation guy. Started watching Lazarus on max. Okay, it's a Japanese anime. It's one of those adult swims. So it's coming on the next night on max. It's pretty bold idea. I think the Japanese can get away with this. It is about a scientist the world has just fallen in love with, and he has created a vaccine that everybody has taken, and it cures everything. And then he comes on and three years later and says, in about 30 days, you will all be dead. I did hear about this. It sounds excellent. And he's like, good luck with everything, unless, of course, you can find me, because I do have a cure for this, but good luck finding me. And so there is a team assembled diner do Wells who they think might be able to track him down somehow. But I was like, this is a pretty bold idea. I wonder who got this idea. So I don't know, the first episode is basically an extended escape from prison slash chase scene, and it's a little it's a little over the top and silly, but it's also kind of got a cool feel to it and all that. So I'm only two episodes in. I'm not sure if I like it or not yet, but I am watching it. It's called Lazarus, and it's on max. Wow. Well, I really want to check that out very badly now, but I did check into something that you had watched and recommended. I think I. I mean, you were really sexually into it. That's Craven the hunter. Yeah, you mean the best movie ever made. I mean, I have questions, when is your when is your next child? Do after watching this amazing movie, I was like, oh, it's the kick ass guy. And the whole time I was like, I mean, is he really buff enough to be craving like, the only time that I think it completely sells it is pretty much the final shot where he's like, I'm gonna put on this jacket and open up my shirt and sit on this chair for no reason and look at myself. I was like, Damn son, damn you are going for it. It was fun. It was definitely better than madam Webb, like, significantly, yeah, I thought it was better than any of the venom movies, if I'm being honest. Oh, I like Venom movies, but, like, I don't know the there's something really that gets me in those. But Craven, you know, it had, it had its good stuff in there. I'm excited to see the sequel with his brother in it. That'll be really fun. Well, this is not going to be made. No, no, they wouldn't put it there if it wasn't going to be made. Yeah, they wouldn't spend so much time and effort and energy upping the storyline of the chameleon. Yeah. So I did love that, Eric, you would love that they actually made the chameleon Cravens brother like he we find out in the comics. I am about half an hour into it. Oh, okay, okay, yeah, it's pretty awful, but it's pretty awesome. Yeah, it's very watchable. I was a little surprised at the level of special effects and some of the beginning stuff, but he's escaping the level, or, you mean, the low level, Wow, looks like he's animated guy running, running away. Well, let's see if you're only half an hour in, though, wait until he gets attacked by a cheetah. Oh, right. Oh, I mean, I did talk about Bruno Mattei last week, so I am ready. You know, the entire Sony spider verse was based on, let's pick out a bunch of villains and make movies about Spider Man, and yet, they made very few references to Spider Man at all, and the aliens are all not villains. It would take a lot to then believe that Craven becomes obsessed with Spider Man to hunt him down and kill him. No, 100% you would never, you would never think, I think they hint at one point that when he's like hallucinating that they're spiders. And it's like, is this the beginning? Is this where you begin your obsession to kill all spider related things, not only that, but that's his mom's fear too. And I was like, oh, did you pass that down? Do you pass your phobias down? Genetically, horribly stupid. I fucking loved it. I've seen it twice now. I love the guy, the rhino. The rhino, yeah, I thought he was the best actor in there. Fucking what's his name? Maximus, the father who doesn't want to see Russell Crowe doing just an accent. This guy can't do an accent to save his life, but, man, will he try just the most over the top, Russian accent. Okay, and, and he also, I don't think he realized the movie he was in. Oh, I don't think so either. I don't know. He was just in his own world, doing his own thing. Didn't he play Jor el in the Henry cable Superman? Wasn't he Superman's dad in that? Oh, I don't remember. Could be I think so. And I'm just like, did you think you were in another gigantic superhero movie? Because he's really pouring it on. It feels like that's like Sony's go to move. Is they trick people in a movie? They're like, do you want to be in a Marvel movie? We've got one shooting in five days. Come on down. Here's the pages you need. Here's the check. That's all you really need to see. We'll just say the lines near earpiece you're finding good to go. Craven is available on Netflix or something now, oh, gosh, maybe it was Netflix. It's free, though, so you have no excuse. Yeah, it is, it is free. It's worth checking out because it's fun. Yeah, it's nothing wrong with a fun, ridiculous film. 100% may I suggest you do some gummies beforehand. And mushroom gummies really helped intensify, make those abs are fine. It's just he's so he's just a slender guy in general. I was like, really, I've read, I've read enough comics to know that Craven is maybe a little more amped. I don't know you. Yeah, it's okay. It's fine. It depends on who's drawing. Yeah, he's he's had the super buff, and then he's also kind of had the, he's a hunter, so he's right, streamlined. Oh, okay, interesting. Good to know that's comics every option. So I've kicked off another season of Black Mirror being Netflix. You know, like all seven came out. Whatever it is, came out at once. Yeah, which I'm never going to binge watch this series. Fuck no. And I watched the first episode, and it's so bleak and so in our world that have you seen which one is the first one? I think it was the first one, the one about the lady who gets the brain damage. Oh, that has the I watch. I watched the one with, that's the sequel to the USS Callister. Oh, that's right, I forgot that one. I'll definitely check. I thought that was the first episode i Who knows, it may just been what I plugged in there play. But it's so sad and so depressing and so frighteningly plausible that I'm just like, oh god, yeah, you know brain surgery, monthly installment payments. Oh no, no, no. That just it's raw, oh no, and it's incredibly well performed by their I don't know their names, but they're too known. They're people you recognize, just like, usually doing the later black mirrors, yeah. But so, you know, if you really want to feel crappy and think about something so terrifying and so incredibly plausible right now, I mean, like, a couple years, maybe even a couple months away, plausible that enjoy, but I'm like, it's gonna be a while till I watch another black mirror episode. I think I, you know, honestly, I still haven't finished the previous season because it's just so dark and hard to slog through. And they're great, and I love sci fi, but fuck yeah, that's how I feel about hand maidens tale is I'm like, it. We're just like, a month, a month away from this a couple years ago that popped up, and he's like, I don't need to watch that. Like, okay, yeah, we'll watch that later. Or never read the book. Yeah, yeah, that Callister sequel episode is an hour and a half long. Oh, wow. It's great, cool. That was a lot of fun. They do every once in a while, pull ones. That's like, not entirely depressed, yeah, those, those are so nice. I wish that half of them were that, or two or three of them are that. I've heard surprisingly little about a launch at New Black Mirror. So maybe a lot of people are feeling it's like, you know, I want to watch Keanu. I think a lot of the problem is also, when we were watching TV series, you knew that in September or October your new season was going to start, but what was the last time this was on? Four years ago, something like that. Yeah, I didn't even know one was in the works. I didn't either. Yeah, they did. The previous one was, was it banter, snatch the like, choose your own adventure, remote thing, which I also did not get all the way through. So, yeah, I watched it once. I'm going, I'm not playing the game, right? Yeah. So, well, that's cool. I'll check out what the other ones are. I might avoid that one you were just talking about Jesus. I when I did watch this, brand, brand new, I had a screener of this. In fact, it is called fight or flight with Josh Hartnett. Ooh, who I do not like, but I loved in this, yeah, what a journey it is about a and Katie sack off oddly in this looking very handsome. Oh, good, yeah, as she does, that's a good word for Katie. She's her chin and jaws and cheeks are so chiseled that I was like, Oh, come on, honey, eat a cookie or something. Started to look she's got very short hairdo styled up. And I was like, Who is this dude? He looks so familiar to me. Oh, that's Katie sack off. But Josh Hartnett is a drunk and retired Special Agent kind of guy in Thailand, and he gets sucked into doing this job for his old boss, and that is, there is a person that nobody really knows who they are. They're just known as the ghost, and they have been responsible for taking down corporations and all this stuff. Everybody losing money. And he the. He has been tracked to this plane, and Josh Hartnett now has to go find him on this plane. But what he doesn't realize is that the plane is full of mercenaries who also want to take down the ghost, and so now it is a huge it's like bullet train, or one of those movies where it's just massive fight scenes and everything, all on a plane. And it's really, really fun. I mean, it is so good. What was that name? Again, fight or flight. It's on my screener, but, oh, sure, okay, but in theaters next month, it's, I think I will go and see it in theater. It was that much fun. Wow. Okay, I was gonna say, I feel like I heard about it, but I was shocked that it was a Yeah, it was good. It was available. Oh, no, it is not available. Okay, that makes me feel less crazy. Listen, no people. Well, speaking of films that you should or should not see, you should not see 2024. Is elevation available on max. What is this about? Okay, so this is starring Anthony Mackey and Marina background. Who's the girl from Dead Pool and serenity. Fucking love her. She's gorgeous. She's unwatchable in this Oh no. It is a like a post apocalyptic world where there are these creatures that have wiped out pretty much all of humanity, except anyone who's above 8000 feet. For some reason, they cannot go above an 8000 feet line. And it's like across the it's not even like an inch over. They will not cross that threshold. So of course, in Colorado, there are some survivors, sure, including Anthony Mackey, who his son has a lung problem, and so he needs to go down to the town, I think it's Denver, to get additional oxygen supplies for his kid. And so Marina is a scientist who had left her lab and thinks she might have a way of stopping these creatures, but she needs to go and check it out. So she goes along with him, and then he has a friend who also joins them. It is horrible. It is a waste of mental energy. It was just so poorly acted, so poorly written. Every actor you just like, you just know there's no reason to sit through it. I'm gonna mentally dump this on the director then, because those are some good I know, but the material, for example, Marina, she's just drunk the whole time so and she has really poorly written dialog, so she's just wandering around saying stupid stuff, being drunk constantly. And you're just like, What the fuck is this? And Anthony Mackey is trying to be charismatic, but he really is not written in a three dimensional way. He's very flat, very, very, very flat character to the point where you're like, Yeah, your wife died. That's sad. Like, okay. He's like, my wife's dead. My wife's dead. Man, I can't do this, because what? My wife's dead. I'm like, oh my god, fucking dude. Okay, cool, we get it. So, yeah, I don't think it's the talent's fault. I really, I think it is directing and writing that's just truly God awful. Wrote the Born ultimatum, but he also wrote Oceans 12. So, you know, there's the writer the so the director is George Nolfi, okay, yeah. Well, I don't know if he wrote this one, but he's his other writing credits were, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Anthony Mackey needs to learn to turn down a role or two, right? He's just been popping up in everything, especially right now when, when you're the new Captain America, you should probably be a little more careful with with your brand. Yeah, instead of a straight to streaming whatever, I also forgotten what this was called, I needed about 15 minutes into it, and I was like, This is not for me. Good on you. Well, I mean, it's nice to know how it ends, I guess. But still, it's stupid, stupid ass ending. But, you know, fine, yeah, I'll pass elevation. I think that was a Netflix Original, Max, Max, okay, but should be, should be Netflix should be fucking sci fi original. Do they have, do they have a streaming platform? Give it to them, similar. There you go. All right? Well, another Sun shutter or prime or something, a movie called Bloody AX wound. Oh, boy, okay, which is I did not realize till I'd watched it, director, writer, several cast members from Uncle pecker, which is a indie film that I enjoyed quite a bit. Too, and if I'd known that, it might have twisted my watch this a little bit more, because it's he's got a weird sense of humor, and it comes across at times, and by the end, looking back on it, okay, I get what's going on here a little bit more. But the storyline is, there's a serial killer whose main form of money is filming his own murders and renting them from a rental store that he owns, and what his daughter wants to take over the family business. Oh, but she's not sure if she or sure if she's he's not sure if she's ready. And there's all this stuff, and for some reason, the guy's a zombie, but a fully articulate, a live zombie, you better. He's wearing a really good mask. Yeah, okay, who I believe is the guy who was the main baddie from Uncle pecker. But Jeffrey Dean Morgan's in it for a little bit, one of those kind of low budget things. But maybe if you're gonna get somebody to big an appearance in your film, that's not such a bad place to start. So it's quirky, it's weird. It's a hard one to go. You have to go out and see this because it's off the wall enough that I think some of the reviews here, a noise can annoyed very easily, but and it doesn't quite have I don't know I want to watch it again, just because I did like Uncle Becker so much that I just like, did I miss it, or Did he just not hit it as hard as squarely on the nail as he did with his first film or his previous film? But so good if you're looking for a weird, strange film, yeah, that has a fair amount of humor. So bloody Excellent. Hi. Yeah, it sounds since you started describing the plot, I do vaguely remember, like a trailer or something for this unchecker, I think, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's was was on shutter at one point. Well, okay, how about we take a little break, and then when we come back, we're going to be talking about Val Kilmer movies. Man, hey, I need the fastest rider. You got gotta ride no more. I got sparkling water? I am so dry, guys, can I help you? Oh, no, I'm good. He's got me. Thanks. Can we cut while we're standing around like this? Why don't we have a little chat about the script? Yeah, it's a bit weird. You know, if you want to get a message to someone, you just send a text. This is the 21st century Val No, it's the Wild West. I can't really use my phone now. Can I of course, you can I. Meanwhile, it really is impossible to work with, isn't it? No, I'm not. Now look, the film is not about the message. It's about the man and his journey delivering it. You take away that and you take away the heart of the story. Okay, everybody, let's get back to ones. We're gonna go right into the danger zone. I need the fastest texter you got if I don't text no more. Uh oh. Val's lost that loving feeling send emails. Ice is down. Somebody get me Maverick on the line, or goose or cougar or Jay boy, whatever their names were. I we've come back. We have returned. Hello, we're back. Yes, something's going on. We're here. Vanessa, this was your sub genre pick, yeah, so I wanted to talk about Val Kilmer movies, because he's recently passed away on April 1, and so this would be a good opportunity to check his stuff out. So I did a little research on him before we get going. He was in 103 things. He played roles ranging from Bruce Wayne and Batman Forever to Iceman and Top Gun Doc Holliday and tombstone, which we've talked about, kiss, kiss, bang, bang, and just a ton of stuff. In the 90s, he was such a present force. As his fame rose, he became the it man, but also impossible to work with, and he burned a lot of bridges, notably and discussed on a previous episode about the Island of Dr Moreau, he he went through at least three different directors with that, and just pissed off a lot of people. He basically made a black list of directors and then kind of disappeared from film, and ended up doing the the aughts, the early aughts, in theater, where he kind of re regained his fitting and then started getting back into. Roles later, he died April 1, 2025 after complications from throat cancer leading to pneumonia. In 1992 film critic Roger Ebert remarked, if there's an award for the most unsung leading man of his generation, Kilmer, should get it. There was, you know, worked in Suncoast for many years. I'm sitting here going, Man, if I don't have time to watch one of his films, which thankfully I did, I could talk about real genius, Top Gun, sir, and maybe top secret, yeah, without even making notes, because the stuff he did was so good and so re watchable, yeah, yeah. And he was so charismatic on screen, and just like really easily fell into the parts that he was given, no matter how diverse they were, which is really well being amazing, if you think about on the paper I'm your Huckleberry is kind of a strange line, but his delivery in that movie is so fucking cool and so perfect. Like, okay, that works absolutely, absolutely, I need to re watch Kiss, kiss, Big Bang, because that I finally saw that this year, and I was blown away. I was like, Why did I sleep on this movie? Is that Shane Black? Yeah, yeah, that's a that's a good film, yeah. Okay, well, Vanessa, you want to go first then, yeah, I would love to go first. I went with a film that I watched as a little kid and have not seen a long time, which is 1988 Willow. It was a different time. It was a time of destiny, a time when a child could tip the balance between good and evil. Why, with my powers, with the strength of my great army, can you not find one little child a time for an unlikely hero named Willow, until I'm not gonna let anything happen to the baby. You gotta give that baby to somebody. I'm somebody. A time of scoundrels, what goes on here, and a time of rebels. You are great. You're a great warrior and a swordsman, and it's 10 times bigger than I am. Stupid. Find a child, find a child. It was a time when courage could be found where you least expect it. I a time when unearthly powers ranged and good men risked their lives, a time of great adventure. From the creator of Star Wars and the director of cocoon Willow. So I was it was my era, so I just really loved this movie, but could not remember it to save my life. So, directed by Ron Howard, who had done things like splash, cocoon, parenthood, backdroft and now does a lot of documentaries written by George Lucas and Bob Doleman, starring Warwick nobody's full of no I know it's full of no one's Lucasfilm did a lot of the effects anyway, starring Warwick Davis as Willow. He has 93 credits, including leprechaun and leprechaun. He was Professor Flitwick and Harry Potter. He was Marvin and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and wicket the Ewok in a bunch of Star Wars films. Val Kilmer plays mad martigen. Joanne Whaley plays 89 has 89 credits, including carnival row Daredevil as sister Maggie and the bourgeois, lots of British stuff, and Jean Marsh, who has 112 credits, including frenzy Doctor Who the ghost hunter upstairs, downstairs, and some twin babies, and probably some more babies too. These twin babies, this was their only role, and they never acted again, but they did a great job. So the plot follows an evil sorceress named Queen above morta, who hears of a prophecy that a child with a special birthmark will bring her downfall. She gathers and imprisons all the expected. Mothers in their realm to inspect each child as is born, to see if it has the mark. When the child with the mark is born, the mother persuades the midwife to smuggle the baby out of the castle. The Queen then sends her daughter to go after the baby, along with some evil hounds, kind of separately, who do eventually catch up with the midwife, and before eating her, the midwife puts the baby on some dried grass and pushes her down the river. The baby arrives at the village of nilwin, housed by a race of dwarves, the children of Willow, a farmer aspiring to become the apprentice of the town elder and basically a cool magician guy, but not quite getting it. His kids find her, and along with willows wife, take the baby in. When a Devil Dog arrives at the town and attacks people, Willow has to come forward with the girl and say, Hey, this is probably why this kid, who they seem to be looking for. The Town elder then sends Willow, often an adventure, to deliver the girl back to the people, to her big people, and to safety. The first person he runs into is mad martigan, a merc trapped in a crow cage. He promises to take care of the baby in exchange for his freedom. And when no one else will stop and help, they finally give in and say, Okay, fine, here. Take the baby. On their way back home, they discover a giant bird carrying the baby off into the woods. Willow chases after her, and it's like, wait a minute, that's not what I said this. And is told by faerie that is his destiny to help her, and that the baby wishes for him to do so. So he reluctantly agrees and begins a journey across the realm with a mishmash of helpers, including two zany French brownies mad martigen, again, dressed as a lady, a sorceress, trapped in the body of a brush tail possum. And the rest of the film entails a sort of blossoming bromance with jibes from the cheap seats as well as a silly romance and some gnarly, dark moments, as 80s fantasy movies do. So just couple thoughts. It's really cute and funny in parts. The elder, when he's deciding what will be willows fate, he's tossing these bones, and he sort of gets down. He says, Willow the bones tell me nothing. What do you want to do? It's way zanier than I remember. The brownies are fucking lot, man, they just, they're too much. I mean, you can get through it, but they're in way more of this film than I remember. Val Kilmer has a lot of physical acting. His wig is stupid, isn't and insane, but he just puts so much into it that there's almost like a Jim Carrey ness to him, like you just believe in him. There's also a darkness in here that's fucked up. There's a troll that gets turned into a flesh blob, which is really gross. There is a pot that becomes an angry four legged creature that chases Willow around. There's a two headed creature that ends up getting beheaded. Beautiful locations. The baby's Great. Oh, my God, my little Toothless, Toothless sweetheart. She is just smiley and really never, never watch her just losing her shit. She's just a good baby, man, good expressions. So, hey, I'm my world has changed. I knew I was going to go over. I did want to give a little bit of trivia. Warwick Davis explains that the question he gets the most asked about working is about working with Bill. What? Warwick Davis explains that the question he gets asked the most was how it was like working with Val Kilmer during the 90s, Kilmer had developed a reputation of an actor with whom it was difficult, if not impossible, to work. However, Davis said he was very he has very fond memories of working with Kilmer, describing him as having a great, wacky sense of humor and being very passionate and dedicated to the job. Kilmer also ad libbed much of the dialog. So I have a lot more on this. But yeah, it's, it's good. I was, I was pretty happy. So, yeah, I kind of love this movie. Yeah, yeah. I think that's what was so disappointing about the Disney series, was that it completely missed the feel of the movie. I thought, yeah, I have not watched it, but I did know that they canceled it and, you know, they stripped it from their site. Oh, I did not know that they're doing a warner brothers like tax write off. So basically, they're calling it a loss, and they're making sure they can't they don't have to pay anyone residuals. Oh, wow, yeah. So it was only on their site for a few months, and they just ripped it off and decided Nope. There was also, like, a book series that came out on Willow, to which George Lucas has said that he has nothing to do with it. And even though it was like based off of all his notes, he was really busy making Star Wars at the time. So when it was being written angels, I think it was written by Chris Claremont, it was, oh shit, I picked it up. It was hard to read. Well. The better at the comic book writing. Yeah. I heard it was, yeah, super dark. Super, super dark. I just, I remember thinking I would love for something to happen. Oh, no, all right. Well, Eric, if you don't mind, I will go next, enjoy giving myself five minutes on the buzzer. And I'm talking about a little movie called mcgruber. Load it up. He's the world's deadliest villain, sir. He's ruthless. No speak Christian, yep, and brilliant. Straight flush, I'm gonna turn Washington DC into a pile of ash. He's known only as Dieter, and until now, he's been unstoppable. What the world needs is a hero who's so top secret we don't even know his full name. Hello. Don't worry, this is just like Nicaragua. Nicaragua, this is nothing like Nicaragua. My name is mcgruber, capital M, A, C, capital G, R, u, v, e, get behind him. Don't worry, we got your back. We're only seven blocks away, so if anything goes down, have a look. Okay, you got me about 20 blocks. Get ready for the best action. Just do exactly as I say, comedy. I mean action comedy of the decade on May 21 Not for long, mcgruber and his team will rid the world of evil once and for all. I cannot wait to cut off your and shove it in your mcruber coming to save the world. May 21 Where have you been? I just took an upper Decker in the master bathroom. Upper Decker, guess where you take it? Number two, in the water tank and not in the bowl. You look great. From 2010 directed by Joma Jacob, who has lots of Saturday Night Live related projects, including the Lonely Island sure films, pop star, never stop, never stopping. And mcgruber to in development, written by Will Forte, who was in all 12 episodes of action. Remember that show that was kind of fun, extreme movie, which I've never seen. And 67 episodes of The Last Man on Earth was also written by John Solomon, who's got mostly TV stuff like AP Bio, I think you should leave. And also all 67 episodes of The Last Man on Earth, and then the director is also one of the writers. His writing credits include pop star, the Lonely Island short films, etc. These guys all write together, yeah. Starring Will Forte, tons of voiceover work. He was in fanboys, Rock of Ages, 22 Jump Street, Keanu, pop star, Last Man on Earth and studio 666, and Val Kilmer, real genius. He was in a TV movie of the murders in the room, or which I'm going to have to track down. Wow. Yeah. True Romance, of course. Heat, kiss, kiss, bang, bang. Did you know he was the voice of kit in the Knight Rider reboot? Not until I and also in this is Chris and wig, who's in date night Paul bridesmaids Arrested Development 139 episodes of Saturday Night Live. And also the absolutely horrible Wonder Woman. 1984 joining them in this movie is Ryan Philippe powers booth and Maya Rudolph. Have you guys seen mcgruber? No, you would hate this. Vanessa, I know it's one of those that's SNL. We open in Ecuador, where Colonel Jim faith and Lieutenant Dixon Piper are searching for a man named MacGruber. MacGruber is a former Green Beret, Navy Seal and Army Ranger who served six tours of duty in Desert Storm, four in Bosnia and three each in Angola, Somalia, Mozambique, Nicaragua and Sierra Leone. He is a recipient of 16 Purple Hearts, with three Congressional Medals of Honor, seven presidential medals of bravery and so on, finding him meditating in a chapel, they ask him to retrieve the warhead, which they say has been moved to US soil. It has been stolen by Dieter von Kunt, who just happens to be the man who killed macgrubers fiance. So mcgruber gets to assembling his team, which includes the best. The best. The only one he couldn't get was Vicky st Elmo, who refused, because she has a new life now and does not want to be associated with that. Unfortunately, when he assembles the team in a van on the tarmac to get to the plane, the van explodes because the c4 they had loaded in wasn't loaded correctly, and his team is killed before they can even start the mission. Oh, God, this leaves just Vicki st Elmo and Dixon Piper to join mcgruber on his mission. Their first stop Las Vegas sees mcgruber getting angry at a civilian driver and obsessing over that instead of getting on with the mission. And then the movie continues this way, with tons of subtle and not so subtle jokes flying pretty fast. Vicky is obviously in love with mcgruber, but he's too blind with vengeance to see it, and Piper wants so badly to fit in and help that he allows himself to be belittled constantly. Val Kilmer is hilarious as Dieter von Kuntz, because he's actually the only straight man in the movie. He's the bad guy, and he's so fucking furious and irritated that mcgruber won't die. And it's just very, very funny stuff. It all ends in a hilarious wedding and a final attack scene that you really have to see to believe I even wrote here, Vanessa, you will hate this movie. Oh, excellent. I'm glad you thought of you thought of me in that moment. The movie is mcgruber, the tagline the ultimate tool. That is, because this is a rip off of the MacGyver TV series, trivia. Val Kilmer and Will Forte almost ended up being on CBS hit series, The Amazing Race because of this film where they became good friends. Kilmer later stayed at Forte's house for a few months while searching for a new la based home for himself and forte, who was a huge fan of The Amazing Race, introduced Kilmer to the show. They were about to apply as a team when their other work commitments led to the idea being dropped. Yeah. Will Forte said on Bill burr's podcast that he was paid $12,000 for this film. Major influence on the film was Die Hard, which is director, Jonah Jacobs favorite movie. Cone actually located and used the prop see for explosives from that movie, for action sequences in this one. And in addition, Val Coomer and powers booth were both told in pre production meetings with Ville, with Will Forte to act like you're in a Joel Silver produced film in 1988 suffered one of the biggest theatrical fall offs in cinema history, when it dropped from 2546 cinemas to only 177 in just three weeks, that poorly gross, just sigh shy of its ten million budget. And parade listed it as the second biggest off box office flop of 2010 Wow. This is among Christopher Nolan's favorite comedies. He quoted it constantly on the set of The Dark Knight Rises first he did. And finally, Lee David zlotoff, creator of the TV series MacGyver, felt that his legal right to make a film version of his series was compromised with the release of MacGruber, his lawyer sent several cease and desist letters to the production company and met with litigators, although ultimately no legal action was taken first. I thought this was a much more recent film, for some reason, 2010 Yeah, 15 years ago already. But wow. And also five years ago. It was only five years ago, right? You might be, might be suffering from some COVID time warfare. I sure do all day, every day, but, and I, for some reason, thought it did well, and the Rotten Tomato score is abysmal, but it is a fan favorite, and even got a TV show on paramount for, like, yeah, like 11 episode TV show. So I haven't watched that, but I think I might have to look that up. Does it have the original cast? Yep, everybody, wow, yep. Eric, you want to go, Sure. Might as well. All right, so I'm going to alter the tone severely and talk about 2000 and twos the Salton Sea. You Hi. My name is Tom Van Allen or Danny Parker. Maybe you can decide who I am. Keep your eyes open. Nothing is as it seems, that's good a place to start as any the Mad World of the tweaker, the land of the perpetual night party, I am in dire need of some cash. All right, all right. Here we go. The Alpha team is gonna be situated in the elevator. Right? Look. Your number two team is gonna be situated over here by the stairwell. Now every one of us is gonna be equipped with night vision goggles for two way radio. Come on. Danny, on buddy. I have to pass on this one. Hoo. Bear did so much Gack, they had to cut his nose off. Consider my proposition. Take me it off. 250,000 look drunk. We got a deal. Who? Bears in Oh, you got the 411 on your good old board pump 57 plugs into a police informant. He thinks that you might work for the police. My name is Tom Van Impe. Everything you said is locked. Your name Danny Parker, his wife, was murdered in the Salton Sea. I see everything to you, yeah, I know what you're thinking. Sometimes you see the world so clearly. And you know just what to do, or what you should have done in the Salton Sea. I said, Hey, babe, take a walk on the wild side. All right, Huh? Huh? You want to see this one? No, I have not seen it that. I did watch the trailer. Yeah, it's one. They've been on my radar a long time as one of the Val camera I felt I missed. It's available to rent on a whole bunch of services. It's fairly well available. Directed by DJ Caruso, who directed four episodes of The Shield, the basically entertaining Disturbia remake of her window, basically and over there, written by Tony Gayton, who wrote faster and 57 episodes Of Hell on Wheels, whatever that is. Val Kilmer tombstone. I actually still remember seeing tombstone in the theater coming out afterwards, just jazz man. I freaking love that. And Vincent. Dr fino, Men in Black, daredevils, Kingpin, El Camino, Christmas and 117 credits, also Adam Goldberg, three episodes of friends Saving Private Ryan, cavalcade of names like Danny trio, Peter SARS, cars guard, so many actors. And I'd say, you know, Adam Goldberg playing a meth addict is not a stretch. He just fits right into this role. I can just envision it. So this is a opens with this amazing shot about playing a trumpet in the middle of a burning building with him doing a voiceover of this is where I am. I'm not sure where it's going to go, but let me tell you how I got here, and it's a hell of a start. Okay, this looks encouraging. Then they go on. A weird little Beth was invented in Japan during World War Two, and was frequently given to kamikaze pilots, saying, like lines like this guy probably thought he was going to survive running into this airplane and rumor to have been used by JFK and housewives in the 50s, and really didn't get into a legal world until the 1970s so I don't know how much of that is true. I'm sure some of it is, but this one kind of fault of this film is it feels like after. You'll remember well, after Pulp Fiction came out, there's just tons of movies like California with a gay and all those films that this would have fit in that era perfectly. So it feels a little dated in 2002 but Val plays a guy who's got a really solid double life going on as a tweaker who is definitely using and is he a professional trumpet player. And movie goes along, you kind of find out some things, like his wife has died, and he's involved in being a I'll just, I'll take it as far as to say he's involved in reporting to the police, and from there, it develops into, actually, some pretty interesting stuff. I did like this film, largely because this is Val Kilmer just eaten scenery. He is so wonderfully dramatic, and he's so powerful. And then there's scenes. He's really funny. I mean, it is just him kicking ass. It is a little, definitely a lot of style over substance, but the style is good enough that I'm fine. The writer said that he didn't write this as a movie to be produced. He wrote it as a spec script. And he just put in the most ridiculous over to the top stuff you could possibly think, feeling that there's no way this is going to get made, because this is just ridiculous. Like Vincent plays the manufacturer of the drugs whose nose got blown off or torn off or something. So he's got a fake nose on through most of the movie, and all the side characters almost are just way crazy, way over the top, but val is this great center of the film, and just everything that happens, kind of like monkey, 12 Monkeys with Bruce Willis, whatever happens to Bruce you're with with in this movie, whatever's going on with Val you're going with. So that aspect I liked, of it middle of the road, with positive in all the Rotten Tomatoes, but definitely higher with fans by quite a bit. Tagline, if you're looking for the truth, you've come to the wrong place. All right, this was produced five different producers, but two of them were Eric LaSalle, who's best known for ER and Frank Darabont. Oh, wow, we're both producers. Couple other little quick notes. Val Kilmer researched this by spending time with drugs of drug abusers in Riverside in the greater LA area, just for research purposes. And Vincent sounds like he must have been a pain in the ass on this movie. He purposely mouth breathed during most of the movie because, you know, he had no nose, and added a no squeak, finding that some persons who'd lost their nose had this happen. But also, he also developed bad and uneven suntan. Gained a significant amount of weight, bleached his hair or preventing improperly fitting apparel and went method. He is so his character, he does a great job, but his character is so annoying. This is a person I couldn't hang out with for more than five minutes in a real life. But solid film, really well done, definitely worth act watching for if you want to check out Val kill Marcus, Damn, he's so good in this. I've never even heard of this movie. Yeah, came out and just disappeared. Didn't get any kind of proper push or backing for some reason, and just sort of done. Would you label this genre drama or it's crime drama? Yeah, it's very, very reminiscent of Pulp Fiction, kind of over the top, characters and strange situations, some violence, but nothing that felt over the top, but there's definitely good amounts of violence in it. But, yeah, the whole thing's just anchored by Val man. So if you want to watch Val Kilmer, this is fine. The movie may let you down a little bit, but he's holding it all together. Well. That sounds very cool. Vanessa, nice job on this. Yes, nice to nice to give him a shout out. Really a bummer. I did hear that there are a lot of people who do not like him because of who he was at points in his life, but we didn't know any of that, and all we got to see was the film. So I was, I was sad to see him go, Yeah, well, and plus two, from all indications, he'd like, left that behind. Yeah, he turned it around like he'd grown and learned as a person, which I think is something that should be acknowledged. If you hated him when he was a dick, maybe you can, you know, reevaluate and see who he turned himself into. I would like everybody to think that way about me as well from now on. So that means it's my pick for the next sub genre. And I decided I wanted to go science fiction, but it has to be science fiction from the 1980s science fiction, at least in the 80s, there's some science fiction in the 80s, if you pick Empire Strikes Back, Eric, I'm gonna be very upset. Let me tell you about this little movie. So that's what we are doing next week. Excellent. I'm always down for sci fi. I kind of thought you would be, yeah, yeah. And then in a couple short weeks, we're going to be doing the cryptocon episode. I'm talking live in person. Come see us. Yeah, just come on. Okay, this is the part where we say thanks to everybody who's out there spreading the strangeeons radio word in the form of likes and shares or comments on the YouTube channel, leaving reviews on whatever your pod catcher is, all of that stuff, especially though all those people who are generous enough to send some moolah our way and it helps. Pay for hosting the site, microphones, all of this stuff, and that is called value for value. So you know, if you get a little value out of this, give a little value back. We can keep the pirate ship running. Eric, there's a bunch of ways they can give us money if they choose to do so, buy me a coffee. PayPal. You can find us, find links on our site, and if you're not sure, just drop us a text message at Vanessa. Tell them where they can talk to us. Well, you can reach us on the strange eons radio hotline on 253-237-4266, there you go. What a voice, and it hits the ear perfectly, because that's the you read the one when we do get voicemails. Just gonna make you do this from now on. You know, every once in a while, I can contribute to this show. All right, gang, let's do this again in seven short days, and we're going to be talking about 1980s science fiction movies. See you next Thursday. Transportation and other considerations for strange eons. Radio, produced by Pan Am airlines. When you think of traveling, think of Pan Am. You can't beat the experience. Guests of strange eons. Radio, stay at econo lodge Everett. It's an easy stop on the road. You know what strange eons radio is recorded live in front of a studio audience. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving us a positive review on your favorite podcast. Sit, Ubu. Sit, even the people that he was working with during, like, his shittiest version of himself, like he would be really cool to various people and like, help their careers and give them good advice.