320 1980s SCI-FI!

320 1980s SCI-FI!
Eric catches us all up on the latest showing of the Connoisseur, and then the gang gets into their picks for '80s sci-fi flicks!
Also discussed: Sinners, The Last of Us, Wrestlemania 9: Becoming a Spectacle.

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I can't imagine you forcing everybody to do a Shakespeare film. Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and a superstition. I I have such sights to show you. Strange eons. Welcome to strangeeons radio. That is Eric over there, hello, and that is Vanessa over there, hello, and I am Kelly. Hey guys, always a pleasure to see you. Always a highlight when we get together. Highlight of whatever week, month, whatever. What month is it? I don't know, coming up on crypto gun. So it's got to be May, spring. We're in the spring, okay, Eric, I know that the connoisseur just showed this week? Yeah, we had a fun invite screening, not something we sent in for the Seattle Film Society, which is a group that's been around for a couple years now, trying to generate like we've heard time and time again, and I'm sure you have to why doesn't Seattle get together more in their film industry and work together. Yeah, they had the screening at Northwest film forum. It was a sellout. We screened with in domestic tranquility, by Chem QM cons bubblegum, by Celestine ocean and bench October, by Ari jacarien. I'm trying to say his last name. Sorry, dude, I know you're not listening anyway, so, but so we're, there's four shorts, about 45 minutes, and we're a hit, man, huge hit. Oh, wow. It's one of those things, right? I read the descriptions of these four, they and they're, they read really dramatic. They're not executed so much. There's more fun in them than they read. But read, I'm going. How the hell are we fitting in with an apocalyptic song, something about finding out your mother who's missing and a romantic couple that's having a hard time in Mexico City. How do we fit in with that? Yeah, well, we really didn't, but it looked great, it sounded great, and the reaction was hilarious. Like I've said before, my favorite moment is listening for those people who, as soon as the bottle thing starts, they're going, what had? A bunch of those had like, laugh snorts. It was progressing. And the Q and A afterwards was kind of fun too, because people had so much fun with the short that when somebody asked a real heavy question, like, what was your inspiration for your characters? How did you develop your character for their for the short? What did you tell your actors and stuff? I'm like, well, nothing, really. I did say you had a couple people the audience, that came up with a story, like, they're going to take the connoisseur home with them and and basically, you know, I explained that I'd work with JD on everything, probably everything I've shot, and the DP new issue, and we just, you know, just went in and had fun. So, okay, but when that question was asked, everybody looked to be like, Okay, three film makes next go. We'll let you go last Sure. But then there was a lot of that, a lot of good fun. The guy running it did a great job, uh, putting it through. They are gutsy. The unfortunately, I can't make it because it's right, like cryptocon time, but I want to, I'm curious to try this one night, to go to an event where the, basically anybody can bring anything under, like, 10 minutes, I think, and they'll just play it. Oh, I'm like, this could be just fascinating to see what kind of weirdness goes and I figure maybe I'll go and I'll just bring the package and play something abstract, but like that should be weird, but great group, lots of fun. And I'll be actually meeting with them afterwards, talking about Northwest film, because Crypton, on Friday, the first weekend in May, has six plus hours of Northwest filmmaker short films. Oh, cool. So it's like, yeah, we have like, 80 filming. You have how many filmmakers? Let's meet. I was like, Okay, do that is very cool. Remind me next episode, I want to talk about some of the the stuff that Seattle is not doing correctly, as far as putting together some kind of film program that would actually benefit anybody wanting to make a film here. Yeah. Man, that's a conversation. That's why I didn't want to do it right after this lovely, positive conversation. Super fair, super fair. Really, really happy to hear all of that stuff. Do we have another showing of the connoisseur College of all this? But you know, my listeners know that when we first submitted, we went on a great run, got into almost everything we have not gotten into the last eight films that we have that are on the list time wise. So So I think, yeah, I think we're nearing a time where we'll probably be posting it on YouTube. I want to double check to make sure we don't have any open festivals we're waiting for. But I don't think we do. Okay, then we'll post it to our strangeeons TV on Youtube television, and let you all know. Well, you know, this is a pretty good run. We shout this time last year. Yeah, it did really. It did great on festivals. Yeah, if it, if it had been sporadic, like one on, one off, it wouldn't have seemed so weird. But none was really strange. She always is weird like that, though. Like, I remember with one of my shorts, it got into like one thing, and then nothing, and then one thing, and then all of a sudden, like, five festivals picked it up because they had seen it at the one festival played at Yeah, and then nothing after that. So you just Yeah, you never know. It's such a weird Yeah, that's awesome, though. Did you ever find out how they found you and how they found this film? Oh, my God, one of the locals we screened at, I don't know. Yeah, that's so cool. Well, very cool. Okay, let's talk about some stuff we have seen this last week. I don't know if you guys noticed. Cared The Last of Us started up. I have been avoiding it like the plague because I played the game. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Well, so you know, there's a big thing that happens in Last of Us too, and it happened in the second episode, and I was already kind of struggling in the first two episodes, yeah, but when this happened, I was like, I don't know if I want to watch this anymore. Now, I don't, I don't even know. It's not really a spoiler. It's in all of the stuff. So Pedro Pascal is killed in the second episode, and and at first I was like, Oh, well, we'll see his finger twitching or something. And then as I watched him dragging her off and him just lying there with his eyes open and blood pulling around him, I was like, Oh, I think he's actually dead. And then I went online and found out that, yeah, he does die in this second game, yeah, but he is, I gotta admit, the draw for me, yeah, to this series. Otherwise it's just the walking dead again with with mushroom zombies, and I'm just not sure I need another. This is a dark, depressing show, and without the bond of those two characters, I'm, like, I don't really think there's anything to keep me watching. We'll see Yeah, but I was, I was really bummed and and happy because, like I said, I want every show that I like to stop being good so I can stop watching. Man, yeah, that was my big worry. So I played the first game all the way through the second game, I got to that part, and I was so mad. I don't know how it happens in the show, but in the game, it's so brutal. Like, you know, he's not coming back. There's like, nothing of him left when this chick is done with them. And I was like, I don't want to spend the rest of this game, I know they're gonna try to give some redemption arc to this person who's murdered. And I was like, I don't want to do it. And I played for several, several, several more hours. And it was fine, but eventually I just stopped playing, because I was like, you play the Pedro Pascal part in the game. Well, you play, you switch between the characters a little bit, and then in the second one, you're pretty much fully playing as Ellie, yeah. Oh, that's, that's interesting, yeah. And it's much more her, like, coming of personhood, because she's, you know, having her relationship, and she's figuring that out, and she has this mission where she has to go across. And so she's in Seattle a bunch, so you get to, like, go around on a horse with your girlfriend through Capitol Hill. And that's fun, but that'll be in the they've mentioned Seattle twice in the show now. So I was like, that's interesting. And so maybe they will be, I hope so. It'd be really cool, because they did remake a lot of it, like the the downtown corridor and everything is really fun to go around when it's covered in grass and everything. But yeah, I I've been really, I worried about watching this show, because I'm like, Man, people don't even know. People even know what's gonna happen. Oh my god. Season two, everybody loves Pedro Pascal. Oh god. Oh god. So yeah. The other direction I've seen online has not been particularly favorable, but, yeah, I mean, that's like, like, mentioned the walking dead. I watched a lot longer than you do. I did, I know, but at one point they killed, I think it was Carl, they killed off. And it was incredibly pointless and stupid and just obviously inserted, because we haven't killed the main character off recently enough. It was so poorly real. His son, yeah, and Dana and I were, like, barely holding on to this show as it is. And this is such an obvious ploy, yeah, because I remember they everyone was shocked when they killed. Was it? Glen? Yeah, that was it, which was an incredibly intense, dark episode, yeah, and really, for the comics, though, too, exactly. That's the part I found so frustrating. I was in the exact same situation again because I had read The Walking Dead and watched the first season. I was like, I can't watch the show. I've read the comics. It's just not working for me. And then my best friend was like, You wouldn't believe what happened. And I was like that, I would bet I would know exactly what happened. Did it involve a bat? Does somebody's eye pop out? I wonder? Yeah, well, so The Last of Us is back. It's on HBO, Max, excellent. Well, I checked out a couple of films in theaters, so I'll talk about the first one. Alex Garland has another war film out called warfare. Totally missed this one coming out? Yeah, it's a really it's a much smaller story. It follows when the Middle East conflicts where it's just seen through. I think he co directed it with a guy from the military, and it was an incident that that happened to this guy and his unit. And it's just like a story of maybe not even 24 hours in length, as close as possibly can be resembling to what they remember. Yeah, and it's, it's pretty it's pretty good. It's, I mean, it's a, I don't know, it's not a fun watch, you know, but I think they do a really good job of trying to make a war story as accurate and undramatized but as upsettingly true to what's happening is as possible. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm glad I checked it out. Nice little story. Is this a period piece? What war? Yeah, this is like in the what war was it called? When we went in 2000 to 2001 it was, yeah, it was after golf, the Iraqi conflict. I don't know it was after 911 storm, no desert storms in the 80s. So, yeah, it's whatever Middle East conflict we call it, after that. Wait a second, was there a conflict in the Middle East that doesn't sound like the Middle East. What America going to a desert? God how unlikely warfare was. This in theaters. It's still in theaters. Okay, I've never even heard of this. Yeah, once you mentioned the reality one, it's like, I remember reading a little bit about it, yeah, yeah. It's got some really good people in it. I'm trying to remember their names, but now I can't, of course, but, yeah, it's, it's got some, some really solid acting, and it's nice, because it doesn't really take a side, it's more, hey, this thing happens these guys, you know, they go into this, this house, they take over the House, and they set up basically a spot where they can snipe and spy on some activity in this really small town in the middle of nowhere. And turns out that everyone knows they're there and start attacking them, and somebody gets injured, and then they try to evac, and they can't. More people get injured. And it's like, how do you deal with being trapped in the corner of this small town, surrounded on all sides by people like throwing missiles at you, constantly with wounded, and also trying to get a unit to come out to you, and they won't come out to you because of what's happening, you know. And just all the really good sound design, where, like, just every time something really loud occurs, like everyone kind of gets that shell shock thing where they just get really still and, like, confused for a minute. And it's kind of nice, because it's not like insinuating anything. It's just like the reality of, like, your brain got really rattled and you're really confused and you're really good at your job, but not right now you're not. So yeah, okay, yeah. So if you want a break from entertainment or fantasy, check this out. Perfect. Anyways, take you far away from that too. A thing that came up, I think it was, I. I don't remember where it was, Hulu. One of those like, Well, this sounds bizarre and weird. What the hell WrestleMania nine becoming a spectacle? This is the story of the first WrestleMania that took place in Las Vegas early 90s, and the first one where they really decided to turn it into a show, as opposed to wrestling, where they had some of the people riding in on animals, and they had this big, giant thing they built up. And of course, it's Vegas, so they had dancing girls, and they had just crazy shit everywhere. And Hulk Hogan came out of retirement for this one, and pissed off Brett Hart for the rest of his career when he was supposed to win. And then Hulk came back. So not telling him, they said, No, Hulk just back to win the tag team or some shit like that. But then he came in at the end and rescues Bret Hart and gets the overall title. So they're interviewing Bret Hart, and he's like, yeah, here's the conversation where I found out the knife is stuck in my back. He was brutalized for years after that, for a long, long time. But it's kind of an interesting show. That's just, I mean, I haven't watched wrestle like for 20 years. I was really my my big peak was actually the attitude area, with the rock and stone gold stuff like that. But obviously, you know who these wrestlers are, if you were alive in the 80s. So it was kind of interesting, weird little tidbit in it, one of the guys who was an usher for the casino Caesars is now the CEO, or the head of WrestleMania. Wow. There he is in the background, walking around. Well, that's weird. So if you're into that stuff, it is interesting, and it's fun to watch. For me, it's like a sports documentary, you know, it's just so it's worth seeing if you love Russell wrestling. So this is in the 90s, but the documentary is brand new. It's brand new. They the this big sticking point was they never allowed cameras backstage before. And this one, they decided, we're doing so much we need to document. We're going to have cameras behind and like the the grave guy, the the guy who never lost a WrestleMania or something like that, one of their biggest wrestlers ever, but he was his, God damn, what's his name, Tombstone, I think is his finishing was that the grave digger or something? No, that was a monster truck, Yeah, same thing. I thought of everybody watching. This is going, Jesus Christ, yeah. But his manager was Paul Bearer, exactly. But he was him watching the camera guy was camera guy should run. They're all like, why are you back here? What do you? What do you? What do you? What are you feeling? Why are you doing? Guess it was so there are a lot of aspects of it that make it very interesting, way beyond if you like wrestling or not, I guess, if you think about it, so Wow. Sorry, Matt, if you're listening. That's so fascinating. I was not a part of the culture until, basically, I don't know, 10 years ago, some friends of mine were like, you're coming to an indie wrestling event in Seattle. I'm like, What the fuck? And they're like, Yeah, this little town hall, you're gonna watch these cuts wrestle. I'm like, okay, and that's like eight of those mostly being dragged. But it's fun. They are. They're crazy fun. It's a small place, so you're like, right there, yeah, it's a lot of fun, yeah? But it culturally, it's so fascinating. This like weird thing that we as a people decided to get into soap operas with human bodies. And that is called Wrestlemania. Nine becoming a spectacle on Hulu. I think he said Hulu, one of those kind of guys that sounds Undertaker. Okay, well, I'm sure you guys all watched it. Daredevil wrapped up at season. Yes, and I was, I really loved this season, yeah, so well, except that it ended, you were telling me it was supposed to hang your element 18 episodes originally. Yeah, okay. Well, I I only told you that just now, so this is on you well. But I also was like, holy cow, yeah, I can't wait for this next episode. And then I was looking at it, and it was like, Oh, this is a total run time. I kind of thought it was a one off. I hadn't really heard much about whether it's continue, how many episodes. So when it hit the end of going, there must be another season coming. And there is, yeah. I had a similar experience where it It was part way through episodes like this feels a lot like an end of Season Episode. There's a lot to wrap up if they're gonna finish it here. Yeah, yeah. Well, I really loved it. I think Charlie Cox is just fucking nailing it. And, of course, Wilson Fisk, oh my gosh, after I can't remember, right? Fino, pia, Marino, have you say his last name? Yeah? For now, DOnofrio, yeah, Dina, for you. So good. Yeah. I mean, you know you want him to be comic accurate, so you want him to be about twice as wide. But he's so good, and he's brought so much depth to this character that I thought was, you know, kind of a a one note character in the comic book. So I just was really, really pleased with everything. I've been reading a run of Daredevil, and his voice is now in my head when I read Kingpin. Unfortunately, the guy doing Daredevil's voice isn't quite distinctive enough to push in. But boy, man, he he has made a life form out of his performance. It's incredible. It's really incredible. And that scene with the Punisher and daredevils place, yeah. I mean, you know, the blood, at least, was computer effects, but it was so stylized, I thought it was really cool, even though, yeah, I know, but it looked cool. So I also love, like, during the fight for their lives, Matt Daredevil just getting angry and angry because Punisher just killing everybody, screaming at him to stop while he's also trying to fight these guys without killing them. And I was like, this is they've made such a nice a nice group of characters who conflict so well with each other. But you understand why Punisher and Daredevil are kind of working together, yeah, even though they're at total opposite ends of the Justice part. And, yeah, I was, I was like, this is really, really compelling television. I can't imagine Thunderbolts is going to capture my attention, like this season of Daredevil. God, no, not. But you know, it'll be fine to eat popcorn too, for like, two hours or whatever. Yeah. I mean, the like how we talked long ago with Shang Zhang Zhi, the martial artist, the 70s martial artist guy movie, where it's like, some of these characters do not need to fight Galactus, right? These characters need to be street fighters, yeah, and Daredevil belongs in Hell's Kitchen. Well, it did then make me go, okay, while all of this is going on, while the Kingpin is taking over, you know, obviously we can't afford to have spider man. He's not even mentioned. But what about what happened to Luke Cage? What happened to Moon Knight? I didn't know we might be seeing those in the next season. That's what I was wondering. Felt like it seems like he's at a point where he wants to reach out for help, but he's not going to. And then with Punisher coming along, doing what he does, he maybe he's like, maybe I need some like minded people on my side. And I think there's also going to be an insinuation, because I've heard some comics that overlap with this storyline. I think there's some insinuation that Fisk is going to be locking people up. So while we might not have seen those specific people in cages in that last episode, there might be this sort of people coming out of the woodwork because they're getting rounded up. And yeah, you know they need to band together. Fit in what they're doing with Fisk on the storyline, yeah, yeah, 100% and since he took over the bar or whatever, and it's starting the movement God watching Fisk uses hands to murder people is like the most upsetting image I cannot get out of My head. I was like, oh, cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, okay, that's Daredevil. It's called Born again. It's on Disney plus, but all the seasons of Daredevil on Disney plus. So do yourself favor. They're all pretty good. Yes, speaking of pretty good. I saw sinners. Yeah, dude, I don't even want to, I want to tell you as little as humanly possible about this, other than saying like it it was different. It was a different take on I think we can all admit it's a it's a vampire movie, and he just he had an idea in his head, and he took it into a place. And I don't know if it's a perfect film, but I will say like it's pretty harrowing. There's some incredible scenes where they spend a lot of time talking about folklore. And talking about this idea of music breaking barriers and how they visually showcase that as man, you guys see this movie, it's a good movie. They do a good job, and you don't spend any time being like, why is Michael B Jordan a twin? It's like, it just it works. It just works really well. So I think almost more interesting is all the behind the scenes stuff going on with this film. What's the behind the scenes stuff? So the director's name is Ryan Coogler. Coogler, he came in and basically made a deal with, I think it's paramount, is that who put the Do you know, I don't, whatever deal he made is kind of shaken up the industry, because after, I believe, 15 years, all rights revert back to him for the film, he had Final Cut and something else on there that was, like unheard of for an end. He had, you know, a big budget. So he got every he basically came in and said, I'll make this movie for you guys. These are my terms. And they said, okay, and the rest of the studios are going, What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, maybe that's why that there was the controversy with that weird headline that variety did, where it sort of tried to make it sound like it didn't have a good opening, but it says its budget, but it had a phenomenal opening, really weirdly worded headline. I think I saw somebody tweet about it. I think what's his name? From the Mandalorian, the creator, yeah. It's yeah, because it's doing phenomenally well. He's making them a lot of money. I don't know what the budget was, but it couldn't have been crazy. Crazy. I mean, it's, it's yeah, it's not like a powerful movie, yeah. Like, there's some special effects, but not a ton, but you can tell he had artistic license, because the choice is, like, you don't see the horror kick off for at least half the movie, because there's a lot of setting stuff up, which you need in a film for you to care about what happens in it. So yeah, and there's just, yeah, there's some truly weird but interesting things going on in it. So I don't know it's I'm glad good. Even more more this shit, yeah. More more telling the people who are giving you money, like, why you should have it and let you just do your fucking thing, why you should give money to artists and let artists be freaking artists. Yeah, not the MBA saying, Hey, this is how, you know, go away. Just hire the people because you thought they were awesome and you want to see them do their awesome thing the end. You know, it's not that, it's not that complicated. But, yeah, I want you guys to check this out so we can so we can talk more about it, but I want you to have a good, good time. Good, go see it. I'm not gonna give anything weird away. Okay, good. I don't know. I'm stoked. Okay, so I watched a TV show that fits very little of those things. It's actually a re watch for me. That's right, I watched the whole thing through originally I'm watching again, Psych TV show about a fake, super observant, but fake guy, pretend or fake psychic, pretending to be psychic and working with the cops. Oh, is that what that is about? Yeah, I was honored. I never knew what this show was about. It's pure silliness. It is a lot of fun. The two leads have a ridiculously good time, and it's total light hearted silliness. That sounds great, and it's so much fun to watch right now because there's no heavy handed anything. They're not trying to do this or that or any crap like that. It has I also like it because it needs deep into nerd them. I don't remember what episode it was, but first season, last one, they go to a sci fi convention, and George Takei is the guest of honor, who's all pissed off because he didn't get the right kind of blueberries. And so there, and one of the guys is a huge fan of the artist there and complains about how the artist got screwed over by the big studio companies taking his project and ruining it. But it's just fun and geeky. They also celebrate Halloween, like very few shows do, their Halloween episodes are always ridiculous, and whenever they get scared, they do these stupid little screams and they run away. And it's stupid and hilarious that is scrolling through their Instagram and they had. A, somebody put together a highlight reel of all the times they scream and run, and it's like, this is just, it's just fun, and it's a, I think it's Amazon. But are you watching it to escape turbulent times? It's a good show for that. Yeah, does the other guy know that the the one is faking it. Okay? They're childhood friends. They've known each other since they're, like, seven or eight years old, okay? And, yeah, he's well aware of what he's doing and constantly kind of annoyed. But also seems like I just, I've got to see what's going to happen when he does this. So doula Hill. I can't remember the little you guys name, but that guy was also, he's in West Wing, yeah, yeah, it's got the lead, yeah, the other leads name, but I did see an audition he did for it. I'm like, Yeah, that's the character he ends up playing, already personified and perfected in his audition play. No wonder you got that part, dude. No, maybe I gotta watch Psych. Man, I need something to now that Daredevil is done, I ain't gonna watch The Last of Us. I'll tell you what I mean, I will, but I don't fucking wanna know. You don't have to. There's so much shit out there to watch that's true. I haven't even watched was is and or Season Two out now it is, I think it is, yeah, I've been seeing stuff about it being pretty intense and heavy. Yeah, probably re watch season one. I don't remember what the hell happened. Well, I made the mistake they have a 15 minute like, and I made the mistake of not watching that, and I just watched and they dropped the first three episodes, and I'm like, I don't remember who anybody is. But this is really interesting. I'll be as surprised as they are when somebody clips sides or something. Okay, cool. Well, why don't we take a little break, you guys, and then when we come back, we are talking about 80 science fiction you it is a world transform where things are not what they see. It is the world of the transformer. Transformers more than meets the eyes. Autobots place their panel to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons. Transformers, the transformers, the Transformers from Marvel Comics, the we have returned. Some of us have returned. Vanessa, you with us? I got an energy drink. I'm good to go. Okay, so this was my topic choice. And I thought I wanted to get into science fiction, but it had to be science fiction films from the 80s. And with that, I chose right at the beginning of the 80s, 1981 a little movie called Outland. You in a mining town on the second moon of Jupiter, something deadly is happening. I very soon, we'll see that this is just like every other mining town. I work these people hard, and I let them play hard. There's never much trouble. We're all professionals. I'm sure we are. We've only been here two weeks. It'll get the time, I promise. I got nothing more on that incident the mine yesterday. It looks like some guy just want whacko. It happens here. How often? I don't know what just happens here. What? I'm not a psychiatrist. I can't tell you why. Some people just can't take it here after a while, no way it could have been homicide. Had to have been a suicide. 28 in the last six months. Did you do autopsy? No. Then, how do you know? Susan, there's no other explanation. When a person exposes himself to zero pressure atmosphere, there isn't a whole lot left to lose. Something, sir, maybe I. Try and meddle. I want you to know what you're meddling with. How do you lead dealing with grown ups here? Bingo, Marshall, you're dead. You're the kind of guy you're supposed to be, you wouldn't stick around. That's why they sent you here. Maybe they made a mistake. You the ultimate enemy is still, man. You guys seen Outland, no, but I saw a trailer for it. Looked bonkers. It's pretty good. Written and directed by Peter Hyams, who has done Capricorn, one the star chamber, Eric running scared, time cop, end of days. And it stars Sean Connery, who you might know from rising sun, The Hunt for Red October Highlander, the untouchables, Indiana Jones, The Last Crusade. And six movies that feature him as double Oh, seven James Bond, the first James Bond, also in this is Francis stern Hagen, who is a character actress you would know on site, tons of television films such as Bright Lights, Big City, communion, misery, golden years, raising Kane the mist, and 21 episodes of er, Oh, nice. I never watched, er, great show. How. Also in this is Peter Boyle, who you'd know from Joe Young Frankenstein taxi driver, Johnny dangerously Malcolm X the shadow, and an amazing single episode of The X Files. Oh, yeah. And then in this is James Sicking, John Ratzenberger, Stuart Milligan and Kika Markham. This is a really weird movie Outland in the distant future. Mankind is mining, or from IO, one of Jupiter's moons, Io is volcanic, and conditions there are pretty difficult. There's no breathable atmosphere, and miners are in cumbersome, atmospheric work suits. Shifts are long, but significant bonuses are paid to boost production. When our story starts, we are introduced to three miners who are working one of the shafts. Two of them are chatted up with each other, but the third is kind of off by himself, and we can see he is struggling some kind of mental trouble. He starts tweaking out and screaming that there are spiders all over him. And his two other friends are kind of lackadaisical about it. They continue their work, and they're like, there's no spiders, there's no atmosphere. Get over it and all that. But they think maybe he's just fucking around with them. Then he yanks out his air hose and his suit decompresses and turns him into jelly inside of it. Oh, so from here, we're introduced to our protagonist, federal marshal William T O'Neill, who's just been assigned to a one year tour of duty at the mining facility. He's a good cop, but his wife really hates his work, which apparently takes them all over the place. They don't really elaborate on that, except for the fact that they have a son who's about 10, and in a fight with her husband, she lets us know that the kid has never even been to Earth. So I'm like, Oh, where are they traveling from? That never, never really told, but it's an interesting comment. Uh, shortly after the movie starts, she leaves O'Neill on IO and takes her kid back to Earth and pleading for him to join them. Well, O'Neill is kind of a stubborn son of a bitch, and he thinks there's something more to the death of the minor at the beginning, and with the reluctant help of Dr Lazarus, he starts an investigation that shows that several miners over the last year have gone a little nutty on the IO mining base and have killed themselves, often taking others with them. The base is set up kind of like a old style, old western mining town. So it has a restaurant and a bar and sex workers and all sorts of stuff, and under the new leadership of Shepherd, the head of the mining company IO productivity has broken all previous records with Lazarus on his side. O'Neill discovers that the dead miners all have one thing in common, a lethal amphetamine type drug in their bloodstream. And pretty quickly, he discovers a drug ring to distribute the drug to the miners, run by Shepherd and effectively sanctioned by the mining company. When he confronts Shepherd, the administrator informs him that nobody wants a drug shipment stopped. Production is up. The workers are happy, and the corporation is happy. Neil vows to expose the entire thing, and that's when all this stuff starts happening. This is basically a remake of high noon, and there's a shuttle of a seven. Essence, basically coming to take him out. And he knows this, and so he's reaching out to the other people on the mine base, saying, anyone gonna help me and stand with me? And they're like, you're supposed to be taking care of us. So it's a really it's a really good movie. I'm gonna run out of time on this one. I remember having a really hard time with this when it first came out because I wanted lasers or aliens or something. But I've become a fan of westerns, and watching this, I was like, this is pretty dang good, and Sean Connery is fucking great. It also fits in with the technology of other films at the time. So you can, you can imagine that the Nostromo was out there at the same time doing their thing, and that on Earth, Harrison Ford is fighting replicants and all this stuff. So a little bit of trivia here, and I'm gonna go over because this is interesting stuff. Yeah, it's fine. The film was hugely thanks. The film was hugely influenced by alien in terms of style and tone. The films even have the same music composer Jeremy Jerry, Goldsmith, however, Outland, in turn, was then highly influential on James Cameron's aliens, which came out five years later. Both films depict a colony on a distant moon, which are very similar in design, and the pulse noise of the computer screens from Outland was appropriated for aliens, and later alien three. The movie draws on the Gary Cooper classic High Noon from 1952 killers are on their way to kill the marshal who finds herself abandoned by his deputies and with none of the residents willing to stand with him. In fact, as arrival time approaches, Sean Connery enters a public facility in high noon, it was a saloon, and he speaks to the townspeople, repeating the classic Cooper line, I could use a little help, and receiving none. In one scene, the planet Jupiter is seen in the background with its thin ice ring surrounding the planet. At the time the movie was made in 81 the existence of Jupiter's ice ring was relatively new knowledge. It had been discovered only two years before when Voyager One Flew by the planet. And then finally, writer director Peter Hyams handled the cinematography for most of this movie, while Steven Goldblatt usually worked when there was something hims did not know how to do. Goldblatt was misleadingly hired by hayems, who really wanted him to stand aside, to do nothing, and to use him as a scapegoat for the lad company in case anything went wrong. Well, while using the new intro vision process, oh my god, goblat was furious at being lied to and wouldn't have taken the job if he'd known highams intentions, but stayed in order to learn how to use intro vision, and because, as a young cinematographer with a sole prior feature credit, quitting the movie could have ruined his career. It is the only one of his movies whose rap party he skipped completely. Wow, always been shitty. Intro vision is that I didn't recognize it so and there's nothing really ground but groundbreaking about the film in 81 the the effects are not up to the quality of empire strikes back a year earlier, or anything like that. Like, is this just a lens they use? But it is a cool movie. I mean, I watched it this time, and I was like, boy, when I was a kid, I needed a lot of action, and this is a lot of character development and kind of a mystery. So that's good to know, because, yeah, the trailer did not give it a lot of oomph, and that's part of the reason why is less interesting. Because I was like, Oh, I don't know, it just looks maybe a little boring. It's not well reviewed, either. But I think I liked it just because Sean Connery is great, and Francis stern and Hagan is great, and they act really well off each other, and then Peter Boyle is super interesting as a bad guy. That's cool, yeah. And I love high note, so yeah. And where did you watch this one? I think it's on. Brian, okay. All right. Vanessa, you want to go Sure? Five minutes. All right. Well, I went with a little bit later on in the decade, 1987 inner space. You music. Test Pilot, tuck Pendleton wants to make history. Supermarket clerk, Jack putter needs a vacation. Late. That's not good. You know, it's coupon day. Lieutenant Pendleton is about to be miniaturized, placed into this needle and then injected into this rabbit rock and roll. But something went wrong, and tucks about to get a new destination inside Jack putter. I'm not a man. Hello. Can you hear me? I'm. Was that now Jack's got twice the problems. Are you doing Jack? But he's double the man with tuck on his side, in his gut and on his case, you're not gonna back groceries all your life. Are you Jack? And only 24 hours left for Jack to get out of danger so that tuck can get out of Jack. Dennis Quaid, Martin Short, give yourself a shot of adventure inner space. Yes, I have not seen this movie. So directed by Joe Dante, he has 41 credits, including piranha, Gremlins, the howling matinee, the whole many of which we have talked about on the show starring Martin Short, 115 credits, including three amigos only, murders in the building, father of the bride and Alice in Wonderland, as well as many episodes of SNL, Dennis Quaid, 123 credits, including Jaws 3d enemy mine, right the right stuff, white or Parent Trap, day after tomorrow at the substance. Meg Ryan, 53 credits, including one Harry, Matt Sally, Sleepless in Seattle, Top Gun, and Robert Picardo, who has 257, credits. But all you need to know is that he was the doctor and Voyager. This story follows the disgraced pilot, LT Lieutenant tuck Pendleton. He has had, he basically has no chance of getting back into the air after an accident, showing up at a big military event, drunk, getting into a fight with some cooks, then some other pilots, going home with his girlfriend, who is super sick of his shit and dumps him. And then he resigns his commission. Several months later, we find that he is volunteering for a secret mission. He is working with a private scientific company as a pilot for a secret miniaturization project, where they will shrink him and put him into a rabbit. As the experiment is underway and he's inside of a syringe, a rival science outlet attacks to try and get the tech and put it out on the black market. One very, very squirrely, surprisingly athletic scientist who does not look like he should be able to run or move the way he does, grabs the syringe and runs out the door, escaping by foot and then bike to the local mall. There he runs into Safeway grocery clerk Jack putter, a hypochondriac who has been ordered to take a vacation and has just booked a cruise, when the elevator door opens, a bleeding scientist shoots him in the ass with a needle, and Pendleton is now in Jack's body, unaware that he isn't in a rabbit tuck attaches to the optic nerve and discovers he is not where he thought he'd end up. He gets in contact with Jack by basically talking into his brain, and the two of them then have to figure out how to work together and coordinate to evade the evil scientists also teaching Jack a few lessons in bravery and coolness, and also save tuck in general, from dying from asphyxiation, lack of oxygen, and a death he'll achieve by 9am the very next day. They have to get in touch with his ex girlfriend, who's also a crack reporter, and Jack infiltrates the tech buyer, who is also Robert Picardo to help intercept the chip that is needed to help get tuck back home. So this is a super neat idea. I love the way that he's working with the Super shady tech company, slash science unit, that's really crap. And they constantly are doing stuff wrong. Like, while he's getting ready to get shrunk, some dude's like, oh yeah, I spilled a bunch of coffee on that computer yesterday. Just hit this key, it'll work fine. And like, they're jostling like cables, and one guy's late, and they're like, we're just gonna have to do it without him. There's just constantly this feeling that things are not right, and it's shocking when it works. In general, it's like, Oh, my God, he did get shrunk. Um, like, also the rival science team is incredible. You're like, Why the fuck are these scientists? They're like, Oh, Meg, it's you. She takes off her like, gas mask. You're like, who are you? Who's this lady? What are you doing? Dennis Quaid, this young, handsome Dennis Quaid has some serious Jack Nicholson vibes, which I always freaked out about. Like the way he talks and moves is so Jack Nicholson, Martin Short, being young, hot. Martin Short is not hot. It's just fine. MC, Ryan as young, hot Meg Ryan just depresses me because she had a lot of surgery, and now it's sad every time you see her. Robert Picardo is so fucking fun. I love his character in this he's this weird cowboy, like Latvian guy. I don't know he's doing some weird accent. He's just crazy. But in general, just. Just super fun, weird film. The villains feel like they walked right out of Austin Powers. It's just so over the top, but, but really, really neat, and I love they have a whole drama that's going on inside the body of Martin shorts character, where they send like a rival guy in there in his own little miniature suit, and they have to fight with their like tech bodies and, oh my god, it's so ridiculous. It's just a tiny bit of trivia. This is the only film by Joe Dante to ever win an Academy Award. All the cells seen outside the pod were, in fact, made out of jello, according to Peter Curran, the special effects advisor, Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan met on the set of this film dated from there, and the two later married in 91 and were divorced by 2001 but that's okay, because Jack Quaid showed up as a result. William Schiller was cast as Jack's doctor as an in joke, since he played the doctor in The Incredible Shrinking Man from 1957 and despite expecting it to do well, the film was considered a box office flop, due to being severely poorly marketed. The budget was 27 million. It grossed 26 million in theaters, but eventually, through rentals, achieved 95 million. So that's good. It got there in the end, I did not realize it was not a success. Oh, I knew that. I didn't realize either group I was with. I guess we all loved it. We all liked it. Dante hasn't had a success besides gremlins. Basically, it's crazy. But yeah, I just re watched this on maybe a year or two ago. It was so much fun. I honestly a little surprised. I like, glad that you said that, because I was good to say that this is a pretty broad comedy. Let's be clear. I've had food poisoning for two days. I had very little sleep. This just somehow got to me in just the right perfect set of circumstances for me to have a few chuckles here and there. Good, good. Yeah, it's a cute movie. Yeah, it was cute. It was cute. Eric, you want to go, yeah, five minutes on the buzzer, all right, so we're looking at kind of right in between the two of your films. 1985 enemy mine, movie. Moon on a desolate planet, he is a soldier alone with his enemy. Also don't you understand indie code face, I don't love you and you don't love me. Or strand here, you understand his suspicion will change to tolerance. You saved my life. Why I I need to look at another face, even as ugly as yours. Tolerance will lead to friendship. We should open up a little place here. I can ruin the food. You could scare away the customers. And with that, friendship will come an overwhelming responsibility. Don't get around Jerry. You must pick my place, protecting a life he values more than his own, Dennis Quaid, Louis Gossett Jr, Wolfgang Peterson's enemy mine. I rented on Apple and is for rent. A whole lot of places reviews are kind of middle of the road for this. But I had forgotten that this was Wolfgang Peterson directing, oh, who directed Air Force, one perfect storm, and the fucking amazing Das Boot, which is just a phenomenal film, and one of the few films you can watch that's foreign, that, if you watch the dub, same because all the actors learned English and dubbed their lines or already knew English and dubbed their own lines for the dub. So for Das Boot, yeah. Okay, that works Edward, written by Edward karma, who wrote lady Hawk, Merlin dragon. This based on a book by Barry B long year starring. There's a bunch of names listed, but basically this stars Louis Gossett Jr, who's a Officer and a Gentleman. Color Purple. JDS, revenge. And, of course, Joe. Oz, 3d, yes, and Dennis Quaid, yeah, you might know from the substance, parent, trap, caveman, the hearse and inner space. So the movie starts off, and it is a unusual situation for humans, because they're battling for resources from galaxies they've discovered they're fighting against another group that wants the same resources. Who knew but starts out with a space battle that puts Dennis and Gossett in combat, not directly, but Lewis shoots Dennis's man the way he reacted. I don't know wife or something. Dennis loses his shit, and despite everybody yelling at him, stop, do not go there. You're going to crash on that planet. You don't know the atmosphere. We don't know what's down there. He just goes for it, and ends up crashing on the planet, nowhere near, not really very near, where Lewis scratch, but he finds him sa the the effects, though, not great, no, it's a good thing. Most of this movie was not in space, because it's like we're talking Buck Rogers original Star Trek level effects. It was yay, but that's okay, because they never go they Well, they go there again, but not the same. And the suffers a little bit, because, I'm guessing, at some point the studio said we need voiceover to explain some stuff. And Dennis's VoiceOver is very dramatic. It's like he's reading. And then we went to war. The substance was needed. I was just like, Jesus, dude, lighten the fuck up. And I do remember really liking this movie. I originally saw this in theaters, and beginning, I'm gonna go, oh shit. Maybe I should not have re watched this. The first 10 to 20 minutes are a little, not great, but most of the movie is just the two guys working their shit up. Yeah, I do find it kind of funny that Dennis yells at Lewis's character for being dumb and stupid. But who's the two? Care of the two characters. Who learns the other ones complete language very quickly and fully nuanced. And Dennis sort of learns, he eventually learns some stuff, but, but it does get a lot better. The voiceover does continue to kind of hurt the film. There's some drama it. Its pacing is a little rough. It does it the drags at certain times. It just like the two. And I think completely immersing Louis Gossett Jr down to contacts was a mistake, because he is such a phenomenal actor, and he still manages to pull off a great performance with just his voice. But if you at least could have seen his real eyes, I think that would have helped a lot. But they're like yellow and sort of amphibian. Yeah, amphibian looking. So they're sideways split. This was a international CO production us United Kingdom and West Germany. Began shooting in Budapest in 1984 but the original director, Richard long crane, ran into creative differences right away, and the creative differences were so bad that they basically scrapped everything he shot, and brought on Wolfgang Peterson, who took over and re shot all the scenes he had done after convincing them to move the production to Munich, wow, where you know the German guy had all the resources. That's got to be so disheartening. If you're working on a film and your your director is suddenly taken off, yep, and they're like, back to page one guys. The Language gossip spoke was created from scratch using some Russian pronounced in reverse, it sounded really interesting. Is neat. The original novice novel from 1979 won a Hugo Award for Best novella. See what else was there. The budget originally started at 18 million, and of course, blossomed by another 9 million as it had to redo everything. It's not the most expensive movie, and it shows in the sets. And that space thing I was talking about the it's very obvious that they are in a studio with fake built plants and all that stuff around that looked really rough. But I. The film did not do well. Again, it was credited a lot to the promotions, the advertising, the poster, is kind of ridiculous for the movie of the two guys just facing each other. It's like romance. What are we doing here? It was kind of a debacle, but overall, it's good, enjoyable. I remember liking this a lot, too, and I do remember that those effects were pretty shaky, considering that Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, all of that stuff had come out prior to this. Yeah, and these weren't even Battlestar Galactica TV level. Yeah, they're bad. I couldn't imagine what it looked like on the screen, on the on a big theatrical screen, watching it even worse, because on TV, it's like, oh, did Dennis Quaid give you Jack Nicholson vibes? I didn't connect with that, but you're saying it. I can absolutely see it. Yeah, what you're talking about? His his expressions, the cadence, the way he spoke was, I think he enjoyed Jack's performances, yeah, borrowed from a little too heavily for a little while. Very interesting. And you saw this, it was a rental, yeah, it's a rental. A bunch of places I rented it apple, but on I definitely want to check this out. Was this based on a book or anything? Yeah, okay, the guy that won the Hugo Award. Listen to just a second last five minutes. Listened for at least four and a half. I did mention the book twice. Oh, well, what was this movie called, Eric? I'm a little surprised that's not on TV or Pluto TV, but no, it's film studio. Well, okay, I had a lot of fun with this. You guys. Yeah, same Eric. That means that you get to pick the next sub genre? Yeah, yes, I think we should continue on with this be just jump into the 90s, which could be an interesting year over sci fi, but we'll see what we can find 90 sci fi. That sounds fun. Little caveat here, though, we've got crypto con coming up, and I know that we are recording a live show there. Yeah. And so that might slot in between this one in the 90s, or it might come after the 90s. So it is if you're in the area and get in Saturday, we're a Saturday night. I forgot the exact time, 7pm sounds right, seven and come on, pie. See us. We will have seating available. Stickers. Yeah, we got stickers and stuff like that. Hey, I think I still have a coin or two that we can bring. Oh, my God, all right, that sounds fantastic. Well, that means here we are at the end of the episode. This is where we say thanks to all you guys out there who are watching the show but who are also liking and sharing posts or having conversations with us on the Facebook page, which I have not been on, still chugging along. I remember it fondly as the best place on Facebook come by. And also everybody who's out there donating money. We really, really appreciate that. 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