324 SCI-FI 2010s!

324 SCI-FI 2010s!
We're running out of decades to do sci-fi films from! OR ARE WE?
Also discussed: Freaky Tales, The Pit, Drop.

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Yeah, the new one will be good, I hope. Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration somewhere between science and superstition, such sights to show you. Strange eons. Welcome to strange eons. Radio. That's Eric over there. Hello. That is Venice over there. Hello, and I am Kelly boy guys. This is our first episode after taking a two week break, and I feel so much more rested. Okay, you wanna do some jumping jacks or something like, you know? The other day I was this is for the video watchers. The other day I was driving down the road, and I see this kind of crazy looking guy on the side of the road, and he's kind of dancing around and all this stuff. As I get closer, he makes eye contact, right? He starts doing this, yeah, all right. So I gave him one of these. Shout it back to him. He goes. Put me in a delightful mood for the rest of the day. Incredible. Wonder. How many people he did that too, before he got a good reaction. Oh, my god, yeah, I would not have made eye contact. So I'm very happy for you. Well, he was, he was dancing quite, quite physically. He was all over the place, and I couldn't stop looking. And then he, you know, he obviously knew he looked right at me. I was like, fuck, why don't I have tint windows? Oh, boy, you guys, I have seen some stuff, and I know you guys have seen some stuff. Let's talk about the stuff we have seen. I don't know how I wanted to feel about this film, because I don't quite know how I feel about Finn Wolfhard, the kid from, uh, Stranger Things. Sure, I I think he's an unlikely sex symbol, quite different way of putting in person. Yeah, no, oh, go ahead. He's also very precocious. He's got a band, and he made a movie. And I watched this movie, okay? It is called Hell of a summer. Oh, and it is a camp slasher flick about it's, it's horror comedy, which is always tough, and this is not very funny, and it definitely suffers from dialog that is written by a young person. You know, let's face it, you don't write good dialog until you've lived for a while and actually listen to how people talk. So there's a lot of fucking exposition in every single conversation and stuff like that. And and it's, it's directed by a young filmmaker, not necessarily in age, but in experience. Yeah, so I would say this is like by the books Friday, the 13th type stuff. There's an attempt at a twist that is, is really easy to see coming if, even if, you can't tell who it's going to be coming from. And so I, I don't know you're saying pass, I would say that. You know, my problem was, I don't think much of this kid. And so when the movie wasn't great, I was kind of like, what did I expect? Yeah, I kind of, I give him a lot of room as an actor. I feel like there's potential for him out there, but in my head, he's still such a kid. I just yeah, when I saw it was like a film by okay. I mean, he's fucking 22 years old or something now, and he has lived his entire life in front of us. Yeah. So I'm just like, I kind of hate that, that idea of, you know, I had to struggle to make this, you know, I'm like, You didn't really have to struggle to make this. You had to become the actor that you became, yeah, that was good enough to suddenly get on the biggest show in the world. But that opens a lot of fucking doors. Yeah? Oh, for sure. So I don't know hell of a summer is a rental, pure mileage may vary. Yeah, wow. Hell. Yeah. Well, I saw the new HBO, HBO series, the pits. HBO Max again, yes, okay, now it is HBO Max. No, no longer Max. The Pit. This is a medical drama, right? Yes, it's a medical drama. It's, yeah, it's set up like 24 so each one's hour by hour sequentially. It's Noah Riley. Riley from er is reprised, and, in fact, the creator of ER is back as well, making this show it is so fucking good and addictive. Don't Don't watch one episode, unless you have time and you just want to lose yourself in something for a while, because it was like hard to stop watching and it has a hefty number of episodes. I think it's something like 12 or 15 episodes. It's, I love that that's now a lot of episodes felt like a lot compared to, I mean, it feels like return to traditional I know, I know. It was really funny hearing people be like, What an incredible, unique format. And I was like, What are you talking about? There were so many seasons of 20. Does anyone remember Alicia Cuthbert? Come on, people. But no, but it is extremely good. I think that, yeah, like, just really emotionally interesting. I love the medical stuff. There's a lot of PTSD emotionally from the lead concerning how COVID went down, and as things start to get stressful and worse and worse, he keeps kind of tapping into this, like, helpless, horrible moment that he flashes back to from COVID where, like, everyone around him is dying, and everything's, you know, confusing, and he's covered on all the suit and anyway. And of course, like people who are coming in have interesting medical issues, it's just, it's a real adrenaline junkie show with a lot of cool little twists, some of which you see coming, some of which you don't and, yeah, I just really enjoyed it. So I've read or watched something on that. It is one of the most medically accurate shows ever. I heard that too. I mean, obviously it's a lot that happens in a smaller amount of time than probably would, sure, because drama, but at the same time, I My best friend is she? She was a ambulance person. What do you call them? EMT, okay. Thank you. Sorry. Yeah, you're welcome. EMT, and so her and my friends in high school, they would like study like in the the hall, hallways of the high school, doing all their medical textbooks and getting ready for different kinds of things, because they all wanted to go into that profession. And I was like, not me. Good luck. Enjoy. So having been, you know, around that kind of universe, it was really fun, not fun, but interesting to see all of this stuff. And very Yeah. I haven't seen it yet. I really want to, but it kind of reminds me of, it looks like, I don't know if you've seen the original ER with this show called Code Black. Oh no. That only lasted maybe a season or two. That was incredibly intense. Really, one doubt the idea of a code black being an ER is so busy that they cannot take people anymore. And it's supposed to be like the based on the inner city, la hospital, or something that enters Code Black, more than any other hospital in the US. That is 100% what this is like. It's like the ers begin you begin with it overflowing and just them trying to make a dent in it. It's just, yeah. Monumental your mention too is, I'll toss this out see if maybe I can get to you to watch this yet. But your description reminds me of a medical version of the bear. Oh, sure, the first season of the bear. At least there's a couple things. There's a couple episodes that have happened as the bear goes on that just pushed me out because they were so intense, yeah, and so uncomfortable to watch them. Like, okay, you guys are really good at what you do, but you're actually almost too good. But that first season, Yeah, fucking brilliant. Anyways, I've seen like, two episodes of the bear. I just have to be ready mentally to return, and I'm not that was called the pit and it is on HBO Max. HBO Max, no longer Max. Yes, update your update your app. Yeah, not just Max. Not not max. HBO Max. Yeah, it's good to see a corporation that obviously really has their shit together and knows what they're doing. It's not TV, it's HBO. See, that would have been where they should have stuck with 40 years of a certain kind of style. Anyways. So I watched a film by a person I know, friend of mine from he had two or three films at cryptocon. See. Out all over the years, and I don't know where it's living now, last I heard, I think he's living like South Dakota, but I don't know if he's still there, directed by Jeremy Brown and Mick strong, who I think I've met. But anyways, a movie called solitude just came out on for rental at all the usual places. And it's a story of a reality show where people are alone in the woods and they have to survive. And the the idea is there's something weird in the words woods, something Well, it starts with Windigo is the opening moment and pretty low budget. Some the lead lady, Nicole Apple line does actually a really solid performance. Some of the others are, they're all good. There's nobody like, oh my god, get off the screen now. But the the leads performance moves the movie forward. Overall, pretty damn good. He's got a style I find interesting, so that helps a lot. I would say, if you're not a watcher of reality shows, I don't know what, if this may bug you, because it's got that reality show style of talking to the camera and other things like that going on. So maybe it's not for everybody, but the just well done, well done, low budget film with set in largely one location. There's a secondary location where the where the budget kind of shows, because there's a very small group of people working on this show, but it seems like there a few more people, maybe, but. But, you know, you do what you can when you got a low budget that you're dealing with, but looks really good shot on the red, I think, edited on Da Vinci, so at the end, going alright. But so if you're if you're interested in low budget indie films that are well acted and overall well done, and you don't mind reality shows, I would say definitely check it out. That's why Kelly, maybe it's not going to be one for you. But I think Jeremy did something pretty good, and he did a short film one time that there's just a slow burn zombie thing that I really, really liked. Glad to see. He's working, getting it done. Keep going, man. Where is this available in lots of places. I think I rented on Apple. It's on Amazon. It's it's got a pretty good distribution, because it's on most of the places you can rent cool. It's called solitude. Um, okay, which 1am I gonna talk about here? I think I'm gonna talk about drop. Oh, okay, heard of drop? Yes, but have not seen it? I have. This is about a woman who goes on a first date with a guy, and they're in a really cool tower restaurant, and she starts getting these messages dropped to her iPhone, and pretty soon, these messages are telling her that she has to try and kill this guy that she is on the date with, or her son at home is going to be killed. And these messages include videos of the person in her house and stuff like that. And if she tries to do anything, they're just going to kill the kid immediately. So it is one of those almost real time movies, once this part starts, where she is trying to not kill obviously, and and still make the guy think that she's going to be able to pull this off, it's it's not horror, I guess it would be thriller. It didn't completely work for me, but there were moments that I thought were really, really good and engaging and and then the title, I thought was interesting, because it it means two things in this film. So I, you know, it's a rental, and I think it's really well acted and well written. I think I wanted just a little more out of it. But I'll be honest, I don't know what else I could have wanted from it. It's done fine. It just left me going, there was something I needed in here that I didn't get, kind of sounds like that piano, one that I talked about a couple of weeks back where it's like, it's really good, but it to something right there, but very similar premise. Yeah, so this was, this was, there are some funny moments in it, and there's some really stressful scenes where I was just like, Oh, holy shit. And it did make me go, what would I do in this situation? Because I think I'm, I think I'm too much of. Pussy, and I would just be like, I'm calling the cops. I don't know what else to do. So then they kill my kid. Problem. He was five years old. How attached make another one? I definitely was pretty interested in seeing this film, but just, I think there were other things in the theater at the same time, just couldn't quite make it work. So it's exciting to hear that it's available to stream now. Yeah, to rent. To rent. Yes, yeah. Called Drop Excellent. Well, I watched a film that I've been meaning to watch for a while called we live in time, which I thought was going to be a like a sci fi romance with time travel in starring Andrew Garfield and Florence Pugh. It's available to stream right now on max for free. In science fiction time travel, it is not, Oh, okay. It is just a I think it might, maybe it's based on a book, just like a story of a couple, and it's sort of told roughly out of order between how they met, how they fell in love, got married, had a kid, and then she's she is undergoing cancer treatment, but is also a famous chef at the same time, and trying to do this like Big Chef competition, it's a real piece of shit. No, I don't know why it's told out of order. There's literally no payoff to that. There's maybe, like, one moment in the whole film where I was like, Oh, this is kind of cool. Like, I like how you're doing this one thing, but most of it was just frustrating because you're like, This chick is like, dying, and instead of spending time with her family, and she's like, I'm gonna try to win this very specific award for doing chef stuff, and she's just being very selfish, and it's, it's hard to care about her reasoning. You just kind of want her to stop being an asshole, and you don't really care about that their relationship that much, like I just didn't buy into their relationship that much. They're both great actors, but I just this film just felt so pointless. Wow, yeah, I was really bummed. I was really hoping for, like, a nice, like rom com, or even just a romance. And it just was. It left me emotionally wanting. It left this reviewer, God, yep, wow. Well, that's a bummer, because I always, I am really rooting for Andrew Garfield to make some kind of comeback. But yeah, he did great in Tick, tick boom, which was, that's right on Netflix that was amazing. So I think that he's like, floating around out there. People know he's extremely good. It's just these projects. Man, don't do this fucking book adaptation bullshit. Wow. I guess maybe he saw Florence was, I don't know, I don't know who decided first. And they were like, Yeah, let's do this film together. We're both British. Great. Choose better projects. That's a pass. I guess already we live in time, all right, today, one called freaky tales, yeah, I've been curious about this. I really enjoyed it. It's a lot of fun. I think it was a couple of episodes ago. You'd mentioned you're ready for Pedro Pascal to do, like, a dark scene, or dark character he does in this one. I've seen this. Okay, you say that that he's really good at it. Like, going, yeah, he could carry a movie as a villain. It's like, yeah, not a super villain, but a non Wonder Woman, like, yeah, yeah, there you go. That's just want to clarify fair point, okay, but so the idea is there's four kind of internet, interconnected stories, loosely interconnected, but there's no wraparound story or anything like that. It's not like an anthology, per se, but all taking in place in Oakland, California in the late 80s. And one is Pascal's cherry. One's about a bunch of punks doing a show which gets interfered with by Nazis. And then the other one is this basketball player who does this amazing, amazing ending scene, which is just ridiculous over the top and a lot of fun. Yeah, I wanted to know a little bit more. I should have done a little more research on this, because the basketball player is the name of a real basketball player from back, and that real basketball player cameos in the film sleepy Floyd. Yeah, Joe Floyd, or something like, Yeah, but you're forgetting that there's also a throwaway segment of two female rappers having a rap battle with two short. Art, yeah, in a in a sequence that didn't make sense with the rest of the movie. It was a fun scene, but, yeah, it was definitely not inter Yeah, even loosely intertwined with them, yeah? So what about these tales are freaky? That is an interesting thing. The the final tale is definitely freaky, but there's a loose wrap around idea that on this particular night there was this green light that was something. And so you'll see green lightning in the background every once in a while. And there is a odd at the end of the end of the rap battle, there's an odd nod to repo man, yeah, where this bus glows and then flies off and Marshawn Lynch just makes his cameo appearance. I and I was like, was that Marshawn Lynch? She didn't even get a line. But the weirdest thing is, this is written and directed by the filmmakers who did Captain Marvel. Oh, this is a very low budget film written by some gigantic creators, and it's got to be a passion project thing. I thought it was really uneven, but I liked Pedro's bit, and I loved the basketball one, yeah, those are the best. The thing is, is that, like, the first one with the punks and the skinheads, I was like, oh boy, the acting is a little rough. And I was just like, okay, am I gonna like this? And then the second one I didn't like and and I was, you know, I hate that I've become such a Pascal that I was like, I'm just gonna hang out for his segment, which was the only reason I even watched it and, and it was really good, with a very surprising cameo at the video store. Yes, that was like, Oh, okay. But But then that last segment is so fun and cool that I was like, Oh, these guys pulled a titanic on me. You know, the Titanic movie sucks, but the last fucking 30 minutes of it is is two people getting chased by a guy who's trying to kill them while their ocean liner is sinking. It's like, this movie is fucking awesome. That's how I felt at the end of this freaky tales, I was like, God, this movie is great. I kind of like the first one a little bit because I had a very brief foyer into that punk world. Yeah. Me too. And so I was like, Oh, this is kind of fun, but, but I'd actually had completely forgotten about the battle. I mean, overall, it's definitely worth watching. Oh, yeah, I have a feeling this turns into a cult film. Oh, it's very, very easily a cult film, because literally nobody is talking about this. And I think five years from now, people stumble upon it, you know, somewhere, and they're just like, oh, this movie is fun. When there's also people, I think, will look at segments we didn't like, and that'll be their favorite segment very easily. I mean, if you're a huge rap battle fan, it's a decent scene for a rap battle, right? But then you know that. But What year was this? Is this real recent? 87 Oh, when it takes place, 24 was when it was released. I think it just did a festival. Yeah, finished a festival. Yeah, trailers. But yeah. I mean, if it was our year wrap in it could probably be a 2025, film. Because I think, yeah, just hit big release. Is it, um, streaming free anywhere, or is it still a paid for rental? I had to rent it. That sounds right. I think it's like the $3 rental range, though. I'm gonna have to Amazon, something slow mo, and then get my $2 and rent this movie for $1.90 Well, that's going through Amazon. And you know the weird thing I've done with the Winnie the Pooh movies and all that shit, the Popeye movies are out, and a couple of the others, and I looked at that, they're like,$13 rents. I'll wait on those. You're talking about, the ones that have become public domain. Yeah, hold off on those, because someone at this table might have decided that that's going to be his topic. Coming up shortly is those public domain films, maybe after they're not $14 or at least have a good reason then to spend money on it. Yeah? So freaky tales, I would say, is a recommend. But I would also say you will probably be thinking, I wonder what these guys liked about it, until you get to the Pedro Pascal Yes, one which is, which is just better acted by everything. Yeah, the. It. I He's, it's obvious, you know, you've got the actors that elevate the people around them, yeah, he obviously is that kind of a person to where, I don't know, you know, a little bit better, he seems like the kind of person that was working with somebody, he's working with them, yeah? And so, like, the scene with the lady in the car was, yeah, her acting was really good. And his and, yeah, the other, the other kind of surprise actor showing up in this is Ben Mendelsohn, and that guy is a fucking powerhouse actor too. So he, he really elevates the scenes he's in, yeah, and there is some kind of interesting intertwining of the stories once you get into the third and fourth story, where you start realizing, Oh, the people there are part of this story and stuff like that, yeah. So it's worth a watch for sure. Yeah, definitely. I'm glad that you saw that. Okay, how about we take a little break, and then when we come back, we're continuing with sci fi as we get into the 2000 10s transformers, Dark of the Moon. Action is here with all new mech tech figures. I'm in control auto versus the cell a vehicle. You spy when I get it, then my hands are robots in disguise. Me to get through ready to set the comms, my phone, change the record, shift the kids, I'm always in control. Give me any vehicle, and I'll show you a robot in disguise. New mech tech figures eat so definitely changed. I may vary. Transformers. Hello. Let's see who's called the strange eons radio hotline. Oh yeah, quick attendance to the other film industry, though. So I think Seattle might also have the problem that if housing is expensive, as Atlanta is now running into that, because housing used to be dirt cheap, but now something like 30% of the single family homes here are bought up by rental companies, and the rent is just off the charts. So if you weren't already in about 10 years ago, then you're just not going to be able to sustain it. So I just thought I'd throw that in the pot. Thanks again. Hi guys, it's Micah again in a rare Cooper. But since I'm down in Georgia and I was intrigued by your your conversation about the Seattle film, figured I give you this one from about a year or so ago when I was at a bar in noonans, which is down near where they fell on The Walking Dead, and there was this incredibly drunk guy there who turned out to be the ED trainer for a really big studio that I'm not going to name, but it figured out in Georgia, and he was wasted because he'd been told that a whole production was going to London. And then he proceeded to tell me about how a whole bunch of productions were all being moved to London because they were they were offering huge incentives, which is probably what Seattle thing is that they're offering refunds instead of incentives, which I think that gives a lot of companies. Pause, but it was, it was quite a thing. And I've got plenty of friends in the VFX business around here, and they're all scrambling to figure out how to do other things right now. And one's working for DoorDash. That sucks. So yeah, that business is contracting hard here. But yeah, wow, that's a Counter node. But otherwise, yeah, things are good. See you later. Bye, and we have returned, mother fucking rage if we have to talk about household repairs, man, it's going to be half an hour of me just going this was after some confusion. This was my choice. It was indeed to make it easy on myself by choosing sci fi movies of the 2000 10s. So I will start us off with that in mind. Give myself five minutes and I am talking about from 2012 Chronicle. You're probably going to want to get this on camera. You the brain. I don't want to do it, dude, I don't want to do it. Okay. Are you ready do it? Give me a countdown. I will. I promise. Are we rolling? Let me get the gum. I. Why are you ready? I got this one, sweet, sweet, this is my theory, though, is that it's like a muscle. Watch this dude. Holy, it's why I think we're getting stronger. You know, yes, it was the black guy this time, working it out. There's nothing stopping us. Where you going, somewhere that could help us this guy's problem. Was it an accident? Andrew, Andrew, listen to me. We can't screw around with this. It's too dangerous. Andrew, it's not a game stop this right now, just making the head sounds ah, what is that? Steve, wait up. Matt, look at this. Holy we've all seen Chronicle. Nope, yes, you haven't seen chronicler. Oh, interesting, okay, directed by Josh Trank, who, after this, directed the Fantastic Four reboot that failed mightily, and Capone, which basically killed his career, written by Josh Frank and Max Landis was written American Ultra Victor. Frankenstein, bright shadow in the cloud. He is a good writer and a horrible human being. Oh, I would say he's a bad writer and a horrible movie. I liked all those movies, really? Yeah, Victor Frankenstein. I liked Victor Frankenstein. I thought it was fine. Woof. Okay, carry on. I need five movies. You pulled out one. They all said it was probably the least of them. I like shadow in the cloud quite a bit. I liked American Ultra a lot. Okay, so this stars Dane DeHaan, who was Harry Osborne in the Andrew Garfield Spider Man movies. He was also in a cure for wellness, Valerian and the city of 1000 planets, Oppenheimer and just recently on American primeval. This also stars Alex Russell, who was in bait. He was in the carry remake. He was in under my skin, and 129 episodes of Swat. And little known young actor named Michael B Jordan, who was in Creed, Creed two, Black Panther one and two. And just recently, sinners. So Eric, we are introduced to Seattle high schooler Andrew, who's having a hard time at home. His mom is dying from some unnamed disease, and his alcoholic father beats him regularly. To start combating this, he has picked up a camcorder and started recording everything about his life. Yes, this is unfortunately found. Andrew's cousin Matt has invited him to a rave to help him meet people, but he's there filming everything, and that gets him kicked out pretty quickly and leaves the party dejected. But a few hours later, he's approached by Steve, a popular jock at the high school. Steve is friends with Matt, and the two of them have found something weird and want answer to record it. It is a strange hole in the ground, and when they all go in, there is something in there giving off an alien light, and it quickly explodes with light, and the boys scramble out. This is their superhero origin story, as they've all gained telekinetic powers, but when they start to over exert themselves, they get horrible nosebleeds. They realize, though, that their powers increase as they use them more often. So they start hanging out and practicing on each other. It's probably the best part of the movies you get to watch teenage boys acting like teenagers with telekinetic powers. They they throw rocks at each other with their minds. Contests who can build the fastest Lego structures and pull pranks on unsuspecting people, good fun, that is until Andrew kills a guy in a road rage incident, and now everyone is freaked out. They make a set of rules to never use their powers against living things. Andrew and Steve even enter the school talent show and do a bunch of impossible tricks, which turns Andrew into the coolest kid in school, and he was finally invited to a party with the popular kids. And that is, of course, where everything starts going wrong. In a carry type situation, he goes on a destructive killing spree, and only his cousin Andrew can stop him, or can he. This movie was a lot better than I remembered, and the. Fact that Seattle looks a lot like a South African city didn't bother me as much this time around, some trivia. Director Josh Frank, Michael B Jordan and Alex Russell live in a house together for 15 days in order to create some kind of bond between the three actors. The screenplay for this film was featured in 2010 blacklist, which is a list of the most liked unmade scripts of the year. Shockingly, the original story would have the trio become psychopaths because of their powers, but it was soon changed at it as it was too dark and also would not really make sense to the plot. Also, this is not shocking when you realize who Max Landis is at 27 Josh Trank was the youngest person to direct a film that opened at number one at the box office. The previous record holder was Steven Spielberg, who was 28 when Jaws opened. Wow. After this film grossed 10 times its budget, Josh Trank found himself in high demand by major studios. He was attached to a number of projects such as Sony's long gestating Venom movie, a Star Wars spin off focusing on Boba Fett, an adaptation of Shadow of the Colossus, a film based on the image, a film based on the image, comic book Red Star, and a reboot of Fantastic Four, he ultimately chose Fantastic Four, a critical and commercial failure that nearly ended his career in 2019 after Max Landis was accused of sexual and emotional abuse by multiple women, Josh Trank tweeted, I 100% believe every word of this article about Max. I banned him from visiting principal photography of Chronicle, and I haven't spoken to him since 2012 Wow, by the way, Josh Trank career is pretty much stalled, but Max Landis continues to work. Yeah, I have a little bit of interesting BTS info on tranq, which is so around the time he was doing Fantastic Four, I knew a sound designer who is, I think it was at Sony at the time, and, yeah, he just imploded on that set, and he made a little tent, and he hid in it, and he wouldn't come out and then drink, yeah, and then they brought on producers to basically finish the film, and they wanted to keep it hush hush, because they didn't want the public to find out, and it would plummet, because if they were like, the director basically didn't exist, and then he went to the internet and was like, they stole my film and tanked it himself. That's why it's a big old mess, and it makes zero sense. Yeah, that is actually publicly known. Yeah, big article written about how poorly he acted on set. He's too young. He was given a gigantic fucking property. It's way too big, yeah, for like, to go from chronicle to the I feel, I do feel bad for him. I think that that was a really rough situation. The unfortunate thing then, though, is he does Capone, which is not as big, and it's still a really horrible movie. So is it, yeah, I think that this was kind of a, you know, unfortunately, you know, Max Landis wrote an interesting story. I think, yeah, I think somehow a good story came, because chronicle is a great film. But, yeah, I don't think that those filmmakers are necessarily good filmmakers, but Michael B Jordan. Michael B Jordan is there you go. He steals the camera Limelight in this. Was this his first film? Yeah, because I remember watching this and be like, That guy's kind of cute. He's kind of he's kind of watchable. I don't know who's this dude again, because if you thought he was kind of cute, he is a kid in this I was looking I was like, God, boy, this guy has grown up to be a very handsome man, but you might not have believed it back then, really, you know, he's just got that charisma. Yeah, I think there's also some to be said. As far as director, the difference between some can do both some can't between a found footed film and a lockdown, sure film with sticks. It makes it. It's a very different style, having a crew versus, like, having, you know, your friend yourself and a couple. Yeah, it's so different, different. So I could see, yeah, that'd be too bad he couldn't handle it, but that would be a Wow. What a transition. Holy shit. Vanessa, you want to go next? Sure. All right, so I went with a film I had not seen, which is from 2011 the film in time you allow me to introduce my mother in law, Clara, my wife, Michelle, and my daughter Sylvia, whoa, who's the rest. Never left a quota. My Units are up from last week. So is quota. Just one something to make a bit more time on my end than hours in the day. How old are you? 28 I'm one five, but the day comes when you've had enough. If you had as much time as I have, what would you do with it. Sure as hell wouldn't waste it. The last time anyone saw him alive, there was over a century on this clock, well, all the time. His name is Will Salas. You can't hide 100 years in the ghetto. You know that time I'll get you killed. Hey, Mom, I'm gonna get out of here. I just wouldn't know what to do if I lost you. Don't believe we've had the pleasure of your company before. Miss turn Salas. Will Salas, I'm sorry to have to bring up the party, Mrs. Weiss, I just need to work with your friend. This is my day. Why they're keeping me alive. Can you live with yourself watching people die right next to you. You don't watch. Close your eyes. Take them for everything they've got. Come on, come on. Help yourselves. Take the time and treat you. Put enough time in the wrong hands. You upset the whole system. Let's hope so. If this works, we got to get more. I can help you get all the time you want. No, come in the kitchen. You his crime wasn't taking time. He was giving it away. Seeing the poster bopping around here and there, thought I'd check it out. Had a budget of 40 million box office 174, this is written and directed by Andrew Nicole, who you would know from Gattaca Simone, Lord of War, and wrote Truman Show starring Justin Timberlake from you know, being Justin Timberlake also the social network inside Lou and Davis SNL and trolls as branch, and then the self bam, good lord. Amanda Seyfried, because I'm happy anyway. Amanda Seaford from 77 credits, including Mean Girls, mamma mia Les Mis Twin Peaks, the return and Cillian or Killian Murphy. Killian Murphy 63 credits, including 28 days later, Inception, Oppenheimer and Peaky Blinders. And also has in it Olivia Wilde, Johnny colecki from the Big Bang Theory, Ethan Peck, Spock and Vincent kathizer, who plays Pete Campbell in Mad Men. The story is in 2069 I know people are born with an embedded timer. When they turn 25 they are given one year of time, which becomes basically a currency. Their minutes are used for things like coffee. Are used to get the bus, any basic thing you would use cash for. Instead you use time for and you, of course, have to earn a living. When their time runs out, they immediately die. So they must find ways to stay alive. Many people live a while and never but they never age. They never look older than 25 the Truly Rich people essentially become immortal because they can just keep going and going going. People live in time zones according to their wealth. This keeps the rich rich and the poor poor. Another big differentiator between the poor and the rich is that the poor run everywhere because time is too precious. They also don't sleep in or engage in time wasting activities, except for going to the club. Will Salas is from a poor neighborhood, living with his mother and day to day, basically owing money to all kinds of time lenders. He works in a factory and is living in a ghetto, but is a clearly generous guy. He gives time away to little girl around this down the block, he offers to help people out around him. After work, he goes to a club, and he sees Henry Hamilton, a 105 year old man who has a century of life on his clock and is lavishly giving time away and buying drinks for people. Will warns him that the Minutemen, a local mafia, will come and kill him if they see him act like this, basically, they'll rob him of all this time. The man doesn't care. And when the Minutemen arrive, the man is clearly out of his league. Will helps him escape to a hideout in a warehouse where they stay overnight. They have a long conversation about the meaning of life, and the man tells will that there's a conspiracy to keep the poor poor and force their time to run out so they have to die. And. There is actually plenty of time to go around meanwhile, of course, the bridge can live forever like himself, and he says it's not natural, and that he basically wants to die the next morning before will wakes the man transfers all of his life to Him, then wanders off into the morning to sit on a bridge and die. He leaves a note to will, saying, Do not waste my time. Will is excited to share his time with his mother, but due to a miscalculation of timing and the bus raising its rate, she dies before she gets home. Yep, will decides to destroy the system and goes out of his time zone to the richest neighborhood. He admits himself within a bunch of bankers, and he intends to take the whole thing down. But meanwhile, the Timekeepers, aka the police, find Henry's body. Will becomes the prime suspect. They catch up to will at a party while he's flirting with Sylvia, the banker's daughter, who feels that life is pointless and is thrilled by Will's free spirits. When the police arrive, he takes her hostage, and they go on the run. They return to the ghetto, where they're robbed of all but a few minutes, and she learns how to value time. They then basically become a futuristic Robin Hood, Bonnie and Clyde, robbing the rich of their time and breaking by breaking into her father's banks and giving away to the poor. This is a pretty dramatic shift from a sci fi story to Bonnie and Clyde like, Whoa. Okay, the plot is gone. Here we are. That's fine. It's it knows what it is, and it goes into it. I don't know why their solve isn't to just destroy the whole mechanism. That's very strange to me, like, I don't know why they steal time instead of just killing the devices and the reason why people are forced to live the way they are. But that's okay. There are a crazy number of random people who eventually become famous. The guy who goes on to play Spock and brave new worlds is is her like bodyguard who says nothing. I just kept looking at people being like, Wait, you're famous, you're somebody, you're funny, you go on to be in the Big Bang Theory is like the lead. You're just the geeky friend here. Killian murky has a very goofy run. Amanda Siegfried has to run in high heels the whole time. And it's fucking stupid. It's just dumb. I don't I'm not in love with this film, I feel like, because everyone is 25 or younger, you just don't get the quality of acting. And there is a weird uncanny valley when you've got, like, Olivia Wilde as his mom and she's hugging him, and you're like, did you guys just sleep together while you're in the same place? Oh, you're with his mom. Okay, cool. Like, there's just some weird things going on. Killian Murphy does a great job, but it's still it just doesn't quite support the film. I don't think it's a man amazing. I won't say too much more other than the writer, director Andrew Nicole has called his 2011 film in time a bastard child of Gattaca, a also sci fi writing, writer Harlan Ellison launched a lawsuit against new Regency and director Andrew Nicole, claiming that the film's plot was an uncanny similar similarity to a short story repent. Harlequin said the talk men initially, Ellison was seeking an injunction against the film's release, when which he watered down to request for an on screen credit. Ultimately, the case was dropped with no money exchanging hands between the parties, both sides, releasing the following joint statement. After seeing the film in time, Harlan Ellison decided to voluntarily dismiss the action. No payment or screen credit was promised or given to Harlan Ellison. The parties wish each other well and have no further comment on this matter. Harlan got a special call in the middle of the night drop this, sir. I think he saw it and went, Oh, actually, this isn't my movie at all. I don't want my name on this. Never mind. Walk away slow. I haven't seen this, but I knew they're probably curious about it. It's, you know, I don't know it's worth checking out. I I didn't hate it. I just, I wasn't crazy in love with it. You know, I think Justin Timberlake, did he bring sexy back for you? I was never that. Ended up Justin, he wasn't my guy, not a JT fan. I was not my roommate in college. Was big. Posters, everyone. There you go. Yeah, Eric, you ready? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Five minutes. Okay, so 2013 brings me Upstream Color. I do you know this place I want to say, yes, for you I want to is there? Is there a direction that you feel I'm gonna go wherever you go. I. You know that you're scaring me a little bit. I feel like you know, won't let anyone near that. There's a crowd back in the corner, violent. I've never seen the parents behave so they can get very protective. The bar before you is somehow special. It is better than anything you've ever tasted. Each drink is better than The last. Take A drink now. Which I did not know existed until I was looking through this. Yeah, and I as soon as I saw who directed it, I'm going, I'm watching this. It's directed by directed and written by Shane Carruth, who did primer, okay, and another thing called Breakthrough. And God knows why he hasn't done more movies, I don't know. Is an actor who's he's also acts in this he was in Swiss Army Man, the girlfriend. Experience, everything and everything and everything, sure. Amy cements, who is in pet cemetery. Stranger three episodes. Stranger thing. Alien Covenant, and you're next. And Frank Mosley, who's Shoot the Moon between the eyes, go fuck yourself. Oliver and 109 other credits or Oliver shit. Okay, so this is starts artsy. There's that sci fi music note, the single note, that's sort of ascending and descending and like, Okay, I've heard this before long, drawn out sounds. Still sounds cool, but all these super tight shots with one image in the middle of a blurry thing, you know, very, very seen artsy, but still looking really good, telling some weird story of what this guy seems to be harvesting plants or maggots or something. The next moment is there's two tree two teens who drink whiskey, looking liquid, and close their one closes their eyes, and the other guy starts doing gestures, and the other person matches him perfectly, not being able to see him at all. So they do this again later, with a similar situation, setting you up that whatever is going on with these maggots is generating some kind of communication between these two people. So he decides the scientists are kind of the scientist decides he's going to get puts two in capsules to go out and find someone to take control of, and gives it to a woman, which leads to the thought of uncomfortable things, but thankfully, it does not go there. It keeps it him just stealing all her money. See, he gets her to write her mortgage off to him and all the cash she can come up with, including a bunch of, like, rare coins or something like that. And once that's done, he takes her to this doctor kind of thing, who takes the the worm has, you know, grown, and there's some grim stuff of her trying to figure out what's going on after she comes to and he takes this worm out and implants it in a pig. There's some uncomfortable scenes with pigs in this film, just in case you're inclined to be worried about that kind of stuff. But from there, it becomes this very odd thing where people. So you come to realize all these pigs are connected to people in the real world, and he's basically observing them. And somehow, when he sits with the pigs, he sits with the people, it's wild, and two of these people find each other, which you know, leads to problems for him, and it's really good. So these people don't know that they're connected to these Exactly, okay? And it's just smart, just like primer, it's incredibly smart filmmaking, which may lead to answers or may not. They just, I mean, absolutely, if you like primer at all, this is a film to check out, because it's got the strain. It's incredibly well shot. The acting is insanely good. The I it just works. So I am really, really thrilled that this is the one I watched, probably the best one so far. I It's because it's interesting and kind of like primer. I think I only watched primer once, but I never stopped forgetting that film, and luckily, umbrella just came out with a very cool back set of it, which I need to watch. It's premiered. It's premiered at Sundance in 2013 in January, and did get a small theatrical release, but that was self distributed by the director, and he made a quote about everything, about the choice to do the do the distribution is about contextualizing the movie like sounds like the guy who writes these deep thinker movies lives a deep thinker life. So yeah, Upstream Color, highly recommended, available through a few places like rents and stuff like that. But if you like the the weirder side of sci fi, the hard to figure out what's going on. Go on a journey. Art House movie. This is definitely want to check out. Vanessa, you've clearly seen this. Yes, didn't like it at all. Looks like I think I've seen it three or four times really. I hate this. Why the hell was she watching again? Because people I hang out with were like, We gotta watch Upstream Color. I saw it in theaters, and then I saw it with several times, with friends, and I think I just kept hoping I would get something more out of it. But to me, it feels very pretentious. Oh, it's very pretentious. Yeah, it's hard. Primer is very pretentious. I don't like primer either. So that's, there's a big like, it's me, like, I accept that. It's not necessarily the film. It's just for me. I just find it intolerable. I think this also came up with that series of those guys we like so much who did all the Lovecraftian stuff. I can't think of the names, but Dennis and yeah, Benson and Morehead. We both really like bunkers. Can't stand there's find a shot guys. Yeah, this those films, those all grouped together, yes, very well, as far as that kind of stuff. And I like all, I mean, it's adventurous night, and I appreciate that. I just, I feel, I feel like they're trying to be too cool for themselves. I think that's what I get frustrated with, is I'm like, Cool. You found this shot that must make you feel very special, like it's not adding anything for me. Well, that's the same of every director who ever made a movie, ever. Well, yeah, guarantee you that, yeah. But when you find that shot, when you're hoping the shot helps the film or the story, and I feel like upstream color is beautiful, but there was a lot of there's a lot of sitting and waiting and just i But I'm glad that you watched it. I'm glad you found it, and I'm glad you like it. It's just for me. I it was not it was not the film for me. Personally, I can imagine sitting I feel like I have sat at a bar and drunk and hung out with filmmakers about my age, about my experience level, doing going out there, making their movies, and it's like they are so excited about their own idea that they lose sight of the idea of having an audience, or the idea of, you know, it did? They feel very they're very proud of themselves, and they're very cool, and they're very like off the grid. And I think that's my frustration is. I'm like, okay, good for you. Lars van Trier, Lars, material, sure, yeah, okay. And I've seen a lot of large keep hoping I'll like him more than I do. Sometimes I like a thing here or there, but, you know, I agree like it's, it can be, it can be, definitely very tough. I mean, the whole dog. A 95 crew can just, yeah, yeah. That's this very similar frustration to me. It's like, why are you putting the restrictions on yourself? What's so cool about it, like, what are you achieving by having no lights and no, you know, tripod? And the house that Jack built was kind of the one that almost really, I'm done watching his stuff because people loved it so much. And we're talking about how it's, like, the creepiest, most disturbing film I've ever seen. I can't believe and he does dark shit. I think there's one creepy scene and two really cool scenes, but I'm like, Oh, this is really boring film. Sure. Yeah. So yeah, I get that I just happen to really like those two, yeah, no, I'm and I'm and there are a lot of people who do like, I was just talking to my husband, and he was like, We gotta watch primer. And I was like, you will watch that by yourself. Enjoy. He's like, I just bought the box that. I was like, I know you did. That's awesome. I'm good for you, dear. I'm really happy for you. That's great. I'm gonna go over here and watch the Godzilla movie from the 90s. I sure will, and I will love it. I didn't expect all those eggs in that stadium. That was great. I got the Taco Time cup. I'm happy as a clam. Perfect. Eric, I think you have the next I feel like something different, truly, deeply, incredibly different. We're going to go back to the decade that almost mastered speculative science fiction, the 1970s Yes, say the 90s. No, never again. Destroyed, spectacular science fiction of the 70s. This is gonna lead us down to, like, the 60s and the 50s. Were there science fiction films in the 10s? What about the 1890s Well, Frankenstein was one of the first films. It's like eight minutes long, or something like that. I mean, yeah, we'll get pretty we'll get into short territory at some point, but I'll ride this pony as long, as far as it'll take us. Yeah, I like this idea a lot. I've got this little indie up my sleeve called Star Wars. Oh, you're gonna do that. I see how you are. Well, then that leads us to the end of the show, where we like to thank everybody who's out there spreading the word by liking and sharing posts, commenting and giving us a thumbs up on the YouTube channel, reaching out to us on the strange eons radio talk page on Facebook, right? And I'm very rarely on Facebook, but I popped on lately and I looked at a bunch of stuff, and I was like, nice to see everybody talking, yeah, absolutely. That's how I feel, too. Yeah. 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