325 1970s SCI-FI!

325 1970s SCI-FI!
The gang reconvenes for a spirited discussion of their 1970s sci-fi movie picks!
Also discussed: Bring Her Back, Final Destination: Bloodlines, Sinners, and Karate Kid Legends.

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The one that my brothers had that got me into Ninja Turtles, where, like, they had bought it, and I, I don't know which one, and I grabbed it and thought it was because it's black and white. I thought was a coloring book. Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration? Somewhere between science and superstition. Such sites to show you, strange eons, welcome, strange eons radio. That is Eric over there. Hello. That is Vanessa over there. Hello, and I am Kelly. We've been doing this every other week thing now, and I gotta tell you, it confused me last week when I was like, where's my episode at? I realized, oh, there's no episode this week because I said, No. Very strange. But a couple other people reached out to me too, like our friend Jeffrey Gould, who's also known as Joffrey to Vanessa, better, better. But he reached out and said, Did you mention something about the episode not coming on this week or something? And I said, Yes, we have gone to a two week schedule. And he said, You know what? I remember that now. What a very valuable Thank you, listeners for your care and consideration. We miss you too. He's been sending me ever since he sent me that that ghost thing, he's been sending me a bunch of haunted ghost videos. Oh my god, and I've gone down the rabbit hole on a couple of these that are pretty fucking creepy. So, oh, fun, yeah. The worst is, like, when you guys share something like that, and I'm like, finally catching up on our conversation feed as I'm in bed, trying to go to sleep, and I'm like, You fuck down in the dark with the lights out, anything could be in here with me. I've got this in my head. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Best way to read horror novels indeed. This is why I don't read horror novels. It's fine. I've seen some movies, you guys. I finally got to see. Oh, all right. Oh, okay. What was your take on it? Very good. It's interesting. I have heard from people who who really loved it. Eric, it went into your top 10 films of all time, immediately, potentially, Yeah, gotta see it again, of course. And then I've heard from people who hated it, yeah. I was like, Why did you hate it? Well, the vampires were stupid. Were they stupid? Well, they weren't cool. I was like, No, they were Irish. I guess that's not very cool. I think I wanted them to maybe be 30 Days of Night, you know, terrifying monster, vampires or something. I was like, this is a, this is a bad argument for hating this film. Yeah, I read, uh, some guy's take on it, like yesterday. I think that was, that was, it wasn't that specific, but it was all about the vampire part of the movie. I'm like, well, that part was fine. It was entertaining, and that was fun. I love the music part. That was the so boring. It took so long for anything to happen, like you ever watch from dusk till dawn, dude, this has been done. Yeah. It's a very unconventional storytelling method. So I can see why people who have very specific expectations that if you do not meet, they will hate. Sure, like, I can see that happening. So it makes a lot of sense to me that people would backlash. But I I feel like it's too bad because they're really missing an opportunity to enjoy something different and like, I don't know, not a sequel, yeah, by the black people. Without getting into spoilers, I had talked a little bit to you what some of my issues were, the one that the one missed opportunity I really thought they were going to kind of somehow pull in the idea that these white vampires came and stole the black man's music. And I was like, this is where we're going with this, right? They could come here and become, you know, bluesman vampires after they leave and all this. And that didn't happen at all. I was like, Oh, this is kind of a missed opportunity, yeah. And it had the one trope that I really, really hate in any kind of siege movie, which is when somebody specific dies, everybody pauses, including the bad guys who are attacking everybody. They all are like, hey, a little respect. This guy's girlfriend just got killed. Yeah, we all like this guy, right? Okay, game on. 100 and I hate that, and I think there are very easy ways to write those kind of things out of stories, because it just drags me out immediately. While someone is having a very passionate death scene, I'm like, What's happening with all the vampires who are attacking and in fact, they're getting in their dancing we actually see them in the background just kind of standing there. I was like, I was doing great with this movie. Why did you make me think, Yeah, but what a great movie, and what a great soundtrack. I think I sent you the the releasing the double LP. Whoa, that's pretty cool. The scene with the music when he first plays at the club, that existent, that weird dream like thing, it's just like, fuck this when it goes into the next generation. There's also a scene there at the end that I really enjoyed. And if I'm being honest, this movie is a lot of similarities to from dusk till dawn. Oh, yeah, if I'm being honest, the story I would have rather seen is whatever happened between this movie and that end scene when the two people show up in the club again. I was like, that's the story I wanted to see. So if there's a sinners too, yeah, I hope that we get to see everything between there. Yeah, oh my god. Can you imagine all the encounters? Like, because I was sure that maybe he'd become like a vampire hunter, because he has, like, the knowledge, you know, and he's got the big scar, and, you know, those guys with those strange stories, with the supernatural, and then he would recognize, anytime somebody comes in to, like, hear his band playing utterly. It's like, oh, fuck, does he like? Is this his thing? He just invites them in, and then he takes him on. But yeah, I can't remember what I was gonna say now, this is something about the music. Yeah. I just yeah, it's available streamer rental now, so if he's been sitting on it, don't sit on it anymore. It's really, really good, really, really good for dinners. Well, I watched Final Destination bloodlines. Did either of you guys got a chance to I haven't. Okay. I was a little surprised that I have a weird bit. I'd love this series, not in that. I think it's great, sure, no, no, but entertaining. I was surprised. A lot of people seem to have that opinion. And yeah, they liked it. Did you like it? I did. Oh, cool. So, which is weird, because it's also a comedy. Oh yeah, they've, except for the first one, they've pretty much all been comedies. I think I've only seen the first three, so that's probably on me and I, and it's been a long time, like, it's been a very long time, but, yeah, I like, I mean, I love the first one. I like the concept a lot. I like the way that they set a lot of these stories up, and these little vignettes of, like, horrible deaths, so I but I had very low expectations of bloodlines, just because it's like, okay, and, like, the the trailer is like a full scene from the film. And I was like, Are you, Oh, weird? Kidding? Like, Great, I'm gonna have to sit through the scene again when I see the movie, which I never enjoy, um, but it's so well told, and just really hits this specific strand of humor. It knows what it is, and it leans so into it. It's just really enjoyable. It had a lot of similarities to me, to the monkey in that way. Oh, okay, yeah. Like it felt like a spiritual sibling or cousin to that film. Like, it just, I don't know, like, it's not, it's not perfect, but like, it's really fun. It's probably the second best one, to be honest. That's kind of, that's what I've been hearing from people that really love the series. Yeah, I would, I would definitely check it out. I think it's, I don't know there's, there's a couple of moments in it when I think back, I'm like, that is fucking hilarious. But there's also plenty of, you know, just like, stupid shit in there too. But I really do think that it's, it's a film that knows exactly what it is, and it just goes for it, and it's smart and it's clever, and, like, the gruesome, weird deaths are so fucking gruesome and so weird and so well told ahead, and you're just like, oh my god, is that gonna kill you? No, no, that almost killed you, but not. It's just, it's a lot of fun. Now you're dead, and now you're dead. What number sequel is this? I think it's six. Yeah, I thought there was a final destination six already. So I thought we were late or something. I don't, I honestly don't know, but from what I've heard around the ether, I think it's six. But who knows? I know that. Is it HBO or somebody who's got all of them in their top 10? All of them are in the top seven. Like, out of complete order as well. So it's like number one, and then it's like 532, whatever. It's like, okay, everyone's got the greatest opening, I guess, like the log one is probably sure right up there in the top three. Yeah, kind of ballsy to call it bloodlines when, like one of the worst Hellraiser subtitles is bloodlines, once you avoid a really bad I really feel like it knows what it's doing. Okay, very cool. So earlier this week, I think love death and robots Season Four came out, yeah, and I watched all of them. Overall, there's some really good ones. Yeah, couple real stinkers. But are not real stinkers, just kind of the Close Encounters of the mini kind is ridiculously adorable. It's cute. Yeah, have you seen any? It's like, you know, the tilt to make things look miniature. It looks, I mean, it's animated, so it's done directly, but that's what it looks like. It's look like tilt shift shooting. That's so cute. I also really liked how Zeke got religion, which was the World War Two. Yes, I love that. So good. Let's see. Skip the ones that are okay. But was it 400 boys, yeah, the art in that one with the post apocalyptic, yeah, the art is so cool. I pulled out a little bit when it looks like video game art, because, okay, yeah, that looks really good at all. But it looks looks like the cut scene of, yeah, video game yeah, and I was pulled out of forgot which one it was. Oh, the screaming of the Toronto so, yeah, because the guy doing the main vocals, and my kind of, this guy is kind of a weak actor, but he sounds really familiar. And it was Mr. Beast. Oh the YouTube guy, oh the guy with the cookies. Okay, an actor, apparently not, because I thought he was oddly, it was a weird combination of he sounds like he knows what he's doing, but he's just not delivering these lines. Well, yeah, because that's what he does on his show, is announce shit that's going on. Oh, okay. But instead of it being natural, sounding like his show generally does. It sounded like he was reading lines. It's very weird. It's kind of a neat one, but I remember that one I was kind of bored with about halfway through. I like how it ended, but, but otherwise I was like this. This didn't need to be nine minutes long. Could have been. And it's also one of the computer looking kind of ones. And of course, for he can creep with the cat, the cats, yo, yo. You can check that one out of that one and the other one with the cat. And the AI robot was very cute. Are these all about 10 minutes long? Them? I think very long. It might be 17 minutes. And there's one that's like five plus. If you look at the runtime, that's the shitty one. One of them is a red hot chili pepper song. Oh yeah, I knew you'd love that one. And it's just David Fincher, of all people. It's just a video of a song. And I was like, that sounds very I can't wait to get past this to see what this episode is about. It was the song I was furious. Oh my god. Well, I mean, there's definitely things against you for that one at the right from the beginning, being the big red hot chili fan that you are, but the Oh yeah, smart appliance stupid owners as the other cat one, yeah. But overall, well worth watching. But when you watch them too, you Oh man, it's 15 minutes long. The credits for every one of them are, like, two to three minutes long. Yeah? So the vignettes are actually shorter than you think they're going to be. Remember, this started life as it was supposed to be, a reboot of the heavy metal animated movie, really, David Fincher had been attached to it and everything. And then that all fell apart. And then all of a sudden, this shows up on Netflix, and it was like, Oh, I see what happened. You already got shit going on, and you're like, well, I'll do it myself. Then fuck got enough money to put a 10 animated charts together. And I think that, you know, every season is hit or miss, but I'd love to grab like, two out of all of these and put together a real movie from this. Because you know that that how Zika religion I was like, did you notice that so good? A lot of the best ones were actually based on short stories too, that were adapted from novelists and stuff like that. And that Zeke one was one. I was like, I'm gonna have to find this now, because I want to read the story. I was just about to ask you, did you look it up? Because I would love to read that. Because that one was unexpectedly. Good. It started off going on, this would be all right, but by the end of like, Yeah, really good. That is called love death and robots, and it is on Netflix. Okay, what do I want to talk about? I've seen a lot. I guess I will talk about Karate Kid legends. Oh, really, that's the movie one okay, and it is better than it has to be okay and really cute, and actually goes in, believe it or not, a area that I was like, I did not see this coming in, this very formulaic series of films that all follow the same thing. Yeah, it did something different with it. And then, of course, it did the weird thing of bringing together Jackie Chan from the reboot, and then what's his name, Daniel LaRusso, you know, because in this Jackie Chan's character knows Mr. Miyagi and comes to visit the Miyagi dojo and ask for Daniel's help training this student. It's, what do you want from these movies, kids, you know, fighting Kung Fu and karate in in New York City this time. Oh, wow, big city fight. How's the kid in it? Like, really good. Yeah, I loved him, make or break, yeah. Well, putting that Will Smith, was it Will Smith's kid? Or was it that one was combination of a little young, yeah, for the kind of story, and not quite ready to be the guy kind of carrying a movie? No, no, this kid is great and, and there's a lot of surprising actors who pop up, and you're just like, Oh, I'm glad to see that this guy is still working and stuff like that. Does it feel like it continues on from where the show left off? So I'll be honest, I stopped watching the show. And, yeah, same here. I assume that it does, because, you know, it shows up at the Miyagi dojo and there is nobody there. And I was like, Oh, I wonder if this ended. I mean, because it ended ended, right? Yeah, show ended, canceled. Her ended, yeah, I think it ended. And, I mean, they would have milked that cow for all of time, right? So yeah. And this time the they, of course, have to amp everything up. So the tournament is basically street fighting in the various boroughs of New York. Oh, wow. But it's a sanctioned fight, and it just happens in like, you know, an alleyway for this one or, you know, it's almost like watching a video game. I had a lot of fun with it. That sounds a lot more interesting than I was expecting, Eric, you will like, I'm not sure that you will like, it's always, I know I'm a little bit of a mixed bag, but so are you out there? I sometimes think that I know exactly what you're going to be into. And I disaster. Lee, wrong. Speaking of which, I went and saw a film called friendship, which stars, it's Tim Robinson and Paul Rudd. Are you guys into Tim Robinson? Yeah, he's done some really good stuff. He's funny, yeah, yeah. I like a lot, not, not in this one, huh? So I like Paul Rudd a lot. And I was like, Listen, everyone, yeah, I know exactly like I saw clueless, I had feelings, so i don't know i I'm, as you guys know, I don't have much of a sense of humor, or a very specific sense of humor, is kind of out. That's probably more accurate. Yeah, I have a very specific sense of humor, and so I have, long ago said to my husband, hey, why don't you watch that show without me? Because I'm not really into this Tim Robinson show, or shows or whatever it is he gets up to. Don't find him very interesting. I thought, is this a movie or a TV show? This is a movie. Oh, okay. And so when this movie came out, I was like, maybe it'll have a little of sense of humor, but it's Paul Rudd, so it's probably just like a comedy that he had no it's like Tim Robinson style, like skit over a film length and ahead of time. At some point, I ate something I should not have, I don't know exactly what, but I had ever increasing food poisoning coming upon me while sitting through this movie. That doesn't help. Nothing. Nothing about this film made it pleasant or interesting to me personally. It was sort of like, okay, I guess I'm watching some people act, and that's fun. Good job for you guys. And that's it. I don't know it's. I don't like it. I, I'll be honest, I haven't heard anything about this or anything. Really, I've seen the poster. That's it. Yeah, no, it's, it's the story of, like, a guy who gets like a new neighbor, and they become like, man, best friends, and then just best friends when they're men. No, they call it. What do they call it? When? Like guys bromance? Yes, they form a touching bromance. And then Paul Rudd cut. That makes it sound really different when you use that word, though. Oh, well, I don't know what they get up to. You never know. You know, guys do what guys do. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna judge that. That's up to them, so as long as it's consensual. So anyway, so Tim Robinson, being the awkward one, of course, does some weird stuff. Paul Rudd cuts off their friendship, and then Tim Robinson goes off the deep end, trying to regain the friendship, and not understanding why the friendship broke off, and being like overly needy. And it goes into weird places. And I don't know that the story really has a beginning, middle or end. Probably beginning, I don't know about the rest, starts at some point. It ends at some point. Yes, there is a time that ticks by. There's a clock that exists for this film. So, yeah, so that's the setup. It's, it's got Kate Mara in it. She does a great job. But I don't know, I think a lot of people thought it was very funny. It was filled with a theater. I mean, it was like a late night screening, like 10pm pretty small theater, completely filled. Oh, wow. So it was popular amongst its fans. I just was not one of them. And I just sat there thinking nothing during Yes, okay, very much so. And I was like, I'm so glad that Austin's having a good time. I can't wait to empty out this bucket, this popcorn bucket, really quick here, and I spent, yes, the next 12 hours. I'm throwing up, but definitely not because of the film so well, okay, little niceness there. Friendship, friendship. I'm gonna look for it. You should watch a trailer, and you decide to yourself, if this is for you. So I want to see the seemingly horror movie of the moment, apparently, on its last day in theater, I think, called bring her back. No, oh no, that means I missed it. Either of you seen this one? No, okay, talk to me. Yeah, thoroughly enjoyable. Yeah, fun kind of scary movie. It was actually scary at times. And people calling this movie a scary movie, I think, are way off base. It's a horrifying movie. Is it like hereditary? Like, it's just like a darker than hereditary man? It is dark as fuck. Yeah. It is deeply depressing. And the Yeah, the end image is still burned in my head, and it's not a, it's not like the predator, the head thing, or anything like that. It's it's a very stagnant image, but it's just like, fuck me, and it's brutal. It is really hard to watch. If I don't know if I would recommend anybody with a small child, check this film out unless you are really knowing you're gonna go into some horrible, dark shit. I'll go step further. This is a very good film. I would never recommend it to anyone. Yeah, that's fair. I texted everybody in the in the guys thread and bring her back. I need a fucking hug. That's that is what I heard from a film reviewer I really like, was just that it's very depressing. And so I kept putting it off because I was like, Well, I don't really feel like being depressed right now. Paying money for depressing is being nice to it. It's brutal, it's depressing. It's also like before any of the supernatural stuff happens, my anxiety just kept getting ramped up by how crazy this person was in the film and the things she was doing to this young child and and I was just like going, I am really wigged out by this character and this movie. And nothing supernatural has happened yet? Yeah, it's already the worst situation in the world. If none of the horror stuff, right? Yeah, if the stuff that's going on with Oliver wasn't happening, it'd still be. The performances are universally amazing. Yeah, the kid Oliver, who's on the the poster, I don't know how you get a kid his age to pull off what he did, yeah, but Jesus, he is really good. It is an astoundingly well made movie. It is also a movie I will never watch again. No way. Never look at a butcher knife. The same, without flashing rights to particular Yeah. Where I was Vanessa. I was watching it like this. I wanted to, and he has two or three scenes like that. I know the how old is the candidate? There's three kids. The one that Eric was talking about is probably 11. There's a, there's then a, you know, a young man, 18, maybe, and then his younger sister, who's maybe also 11, yeah, somewhere around, and she's basically blind, yeah, fantastic. The older brothers, fantastic. The foster mom is fantastic. But I mean, this felt like a movie where I was like, I don't feel like this, the woman playing the foster mom will ever get another role, because people will be like, No, we can't hire her. She's horse. Yeah, she didn't have such a pedigree of work. And this is the it's like what's his name from Henry portrait of the theater killer. Took me years to watch him and anything else without going, Nope, you're one creepy motherfucker. But, I mean, I talked to me, and now this both astoundingly good films in completely different ways. Yeah, it's yeah, it's crazy, because I feel like this person, I mean, the word isn't right. Torture porn is not right. I wonder if they're creating new genre like depression porn. It is, no, there's, it's an ongoing thing with I've talked about in the show a lot, where last couple years there's been this undercurrent of family drama, horror, yeah. And this is that turned way the hell up. And it is. It's all family based, yeah, and it's all just dark and vicious, and it's also grief horror, yeah, the lengths a person will go to when they lose somebody and stuff like that, which is, you know, kind of common now, yeah, but, yeah, what a film. The problem was, I, for me, I watched nothing about this. I just saw like, people posting about it and saying, oh, scariest movie ever since, like, this isn't scary, it's horrifying. It's hard to watch, but it's not a movie. When I think of a scary movie, I think of like, terrified, or talk to me, or something like that. Where it's creepy and scary, but it's there's a twist of fun to it, yeah? Where it's not entirely based, it's like horrors of life, yeah, different lovers of anxiety. It's like, yeah, that's good me, yep. So yeah, bring her back. So that was the last day in theaters. So I think so, yes, be coming to streaming very quickly. Yeah, because I wanted to, I wonder, is planning going on a Thursday? And I looked up like, didn't seem to be playing any place on a Thursday. I saw go Wednesday. Mark Rauner texted me, and he was like, my review for bring her back is up? Have you seen it? And I said, No, I really want to. And he said, Don't read my reveal, but call me when you've seen I just texted him afterwards. I was like, I could use a fucking hug. And, yeah, well, I can't wait to see what they do next. Oh, hell yeah, they're definitely I hope it's talk to me. You know, where somebody else goes, to the hand? What I mean? No, I mean, that's what it is. It is talk to me. Is the sequel to talk to me. No, it's already but I wasn't sure why they didn't go right to that, why they went to a different story in the same universe this film, no, well, I mean, there's no no connective tissue, unless there's something in the background that them as writers are going, Hey, this is actually, did it? Yeah, look at the beer bottle. It's the same company. When she goes to play in the the sports place the guy that she hits is actually so, I mean, talk to me, had some pretty graphic, you know, imagery and stuff like that. But you're right. There's something about being scared by a supernatural thing that is fun. That's why we love these movies. There nothing fun? You can bring her back, just so you think, okay, they've gone deep enough. Nope, guess what? Yeah, here's something else. Yeah, cool. Well, why don't we take a little break and we can wash our brains of the movie, and then when we come back, we are talking about sci fi from the 70s. Alpha team in danger. This is space 1999, Eagle, one spaceship. Alpha, good. Control, we have contact. You can jettison the cockpit and engines, then link them up. It's mini Eagle One in visual contact, alpha control, look up is a go and their Eagle One rescue phase is complete. Space 1999 Eagle One spaceship comes with three inch figures. Assembly Required you from Mattel, and we are back, Eric, this was your sub genre pick. That's right, we're twisting and turning out into the same area again, okay, 1970s sci fi, yeah, the year the dystopian horror or sci fi film kind of had its reign. You don't say, I mean, I know mine is pretty, pretty rough. You want to start us off then, alrighty, give you five minutes. So I'm starting off in 1972 with Silent Running, a space convoy on a strange voyage carrying a rare cargo, the forests, the plants, the growing things doomed to extinction on Earth, we have just received orders to abandon and nuclear destruct All the forests and return our ships to commercial services. Oh, you can't blow up this forest. Silent Running Cataclysm in outer space, every moment, bringing its own danger as man explores the mysteries of an unknown and limitless universe. Valley, forge. Valley, forge. What the hell's wrong? You're moving out. You're accelerating. I've got a premature damnation on door number two, and I've got an explosion in the main carbon deck. Now please advise me immediately, give me Barker. I can't find Barker. I can't find wolf or Keenan either. I'm afraid Neil that they might have been in dome number two, number one. Meet the almost human drones, amazing companions on a journey beyond the stars, and you know it. Hear Joan Baez sing, rejoice in the sun and Silent Running you listen, Lowell, if you continue as is, we figure you'll hit The northeastern caucus centers out of ring tomorrow morning. You uh, this is available rent in a lot of different places. It's not a hard film to find the director by Douglas Trump belt, who did brainstorm Back to the Future the ride, tons of shorts. Main thing he was known for is doing effects. He did, like, 2001 close encounters, the first Star Trek movie, Blade Runner, the man who killed Hitler and then Bigfoot. Oh, that him, yeah, as a as the effects guy, oh, okay, written by Derek Washburn, who wrote extreme prejudice and The Deer Hunter. Interesting pedigree for this, Michael simono, who also was involved in the deer hunter and wrote Year of the Dragon rose, Magnum Force. And Steven Bucha, who? Bucha. Who? If you've watched any TV, you might recognize his name. He did 216, episodes of NYPD, blue, Doogie, Howser, cop rock. Oh, right Hill Street Blues. So he, he had a, he had a time in the 80s, actor, lead actors, Brewster, who. Seen in kinds of stuff, including recently The Hateful Eight tail box murder toolbox, murders to last man standing. And, of course, the burbs, yes, well over 200 credits Cliff pots, who's best known for Ironside, live and die again, and Lou Grant and a whole lot of TV. And Ron Rifkin is an LA Confidential and 105 episodes of alias. So pretty strong acting group here. This is, starts off a beautiful another movie, starting off with beautiful close up shots of vegetation, this time flowers and other life forms existing and Dern, I'm assuming they did this because they didn't want to watch him swim naked. But for some reason, beautiful, all this stuff. Then he gets in this little like water area and swims through it, and it's muddy as hell, like, um, which it's not later on in the movie either. Okay, I see what you did there, but as you're watching, it starts to pull out further and further in your life. You're inside kind of a bio dome area in space, and he taking care of everything. And then you get a bunch of, probably would be termed nowadays, tech bro kid types, driving these cool little four wheelers around that they used to get around the station, but they're running over his vegetation and all this stuff, and he's flipping out. Not being real happy with them. They are flying in the Valley Forge spacecraft located out by Saturn. They also have a bunch of these little two legged robots that kind of look like the little two legged robots from Star Wars, except they actually have people in them. People want to walk around in them. But the great little segment in a poker game where they established that Bruce is definitely in his own thinking on this area. And it's this really well written scene of what could just be simple exposition, but done in a way that at least makes it interesting to listen to where they explain why they're there, or what they're doing, sort of, but that they've been out in space for a while, and they don't get in a lot of details of what they're doing, but it's just well done. See, it's very interesting, fun to watch, but then they get notification to destroy all the bio domes. I'm just calling them that they don't call them that. But and return home for whatever reason, the experiments over or they're not real detailed. But of course, Bruce is not happy about this, because he spent your whole time making a thing. And there's not just plants, there's like little bunnies and animals running around in the area as well, and they're just gonna blow everything up. And the of course, the other three guys are excited to get back, because in the world, there's no disease, no poverty. Everyone has a job. The picture, temperature is 75 degrees over the whole world. But there's no art, there's no music, everybody's the same. There's no vegetation and no trees. And Bruce was planning on being coming back like his hero, where he would bring back the vegetation and regrow the planet and stuff and all that's out the window. So of course, the guys automatically just Jive into starting to blow things up. Bruce is having none of that, and shit goes sideways in really interesting ways. It's a pretty smart film, well worth watching. I'll leave it at that at that point to see where it goes. But highly recommended if you like sci fi, especially 70s sci fi, because it's definitely late 60s, early 70s feel to it. Do a couple quick notes here. There's a song sung a few times by Joan Baez. My favorite. It fits the thing, but the music, which is pretty good and fairly unique, is done by a guy named Peter Schickel, better known as PDQ Bach, and this was the first soundtrack he'd ever done. The director heard him on the Joan Baez album because he's a ranger or something for her, as Peter had no idea. PDQ Bach, who's a very successful kind of comedy music guy who that was, but he hired him based on the Baez work, and he actually did really well. It got some neat music in it. And Bruce during claims he was the 17th person to be offered the role. Oh, wow, oh, my God, but yeah, pretty good. Have either of you seen this one? So I guess maybe I need to give this another shot. I remember this being really slow. I don't think I finished it. It's not a speedy film. It is definitely an early 70s film. Mm. But I didn't have a problem with it, maybe because the last few years all the weird, slow shit I've been absorbing, and yeah, I didn't find it particularly slow. Solaris is definitely slower. Yeah, I remember watching this way, like, a long time ago. So I'm probably due for a re watch as well. I mostly remember the it's Huey Dewey and Louie. This is where the robot, yes, yeah, I remember being like, ah, insert meme here. Okay, silent, running. Well, maybe I'll put that on tonight. Vanessa, you want to go next? Absolutely, I'm going to go with a really obvious pick for the 70s Invasion of the Body Snatchers from 1978 oh. They come from a dying world. They drift through the universe, pushed on by the solar winds. They adapt, and they survive. The function of all life is survival. Sleep, sleep, sleep from deep space. Sleep, the seed is planted. Sleep, sleep, terror, grow. See ya. Yeah, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It's got no detail, no character. It's unformed. All of a sudden, they're growing like parasites. Is it contagious? People are being duplicated. How do you know my name? I didn't tell you my name. I can't find anything in here that looks like a body. My side's nose, please. It looked right at me. You're looking at as if it was human. It was not human. Now the classic fear begins to grow in a modern masterpiece of science fiction, American streak, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, starring Donald Sutherland, Brooke, Adams, Leonard Nimoy, Invasion of the Body Snatchers from deep space, the seed is planted. Terror grows. You can check this out for free on Macs. I believe that's where I saw it. It looks like shit. Oh, I highly recommend just finding like the blu ray. I think arrow put out a 4k I thought I owned it. I do not. I was really bummed. So I might go ahead and pick that up. Directed by Philip Kaufman, who is known as a writer and director. He wrote Raiders of the Lost Ark, rising sun and the right stuff. Directed the wanderers the right stuff and bearable lightness of being wills. This is also based on a a novel by Jack Finney, who wrote it in the book in 1955 and the screenplay was done by w d Richter, who did Big Trouble in Little China, starring Donald Sutherland, who I have talked about in Mr. Herring. Harringons, phone and Moon fall. He's in 198 other things. Brooke Adams, she was in Dead Zone. Days of Heaven, the stuff. Jeff Goldblum, Jurassic, Park, the fly, Independence Day. Veronica Cartwright, Lambert and alien, which, again, I was like, oh, that's what you're from, Witches of Eastwick, which I believe Kelly's talked about, and the birds and Leonard Nimoy, I know, in like, a totally different role, which is really fun to see him in the story, we follow a parasitic alien thing as it abandons its dying planet and travels to Earth through space, it looks like this kind of pink fluff stuff, and it lands on some plants and becomes these seed pods that have pink flowers poking out of them. Elizabeth Driscoll is a lab scientist who's walking through a park, sees the flowers and grabs one, brings one home and tries to find them in her like plant books, and decides it's a cross pollination because she cannot find it anywhere. Her goofy husband, who can't pick up the mail and is obsessed with watching sports, but she loves him anyway, wakes up in the morning, early, puts on a suit, disposes of something out inside, directly into the garbage truck, then begins to act entirely. Differently. He's very weird, worried. Elizabeth confides in her friend Matthew, who's this kind of crazy, kooky guy from the food department, who everybody hates, but he's also super lovable. Matthew promises to help her figure out what's going on, and enlists his friend, who's a psychologist, Dr David kipner, who says to her, basically, it's an epidemic in marriages, and everyone isn't willing to put in the work. It's just an excuse to break things off, which is great, except for all the people around the city begin to act very strange. They communicate silently. They're hunting down people who act out and fix them by chasing them down the street, pots start showing up. And whenever they fall asleep, doubles of people appear nearby and need to be squashed. So he might be wrong. This film, the practical effects are incredible. It is so creepy and grotesque, I kind of forgot how absolutely just amazing it is visually. Watching the plants just slowly move and creep with their little tendrils is so fucking good. The squashy pod people are so good. The homeless man who sleeps with his dog, who ends up as a dog man is so good. I was like, Oh my God. What the fuck the background? I think the little details in this film really sell it too. There's always a garbage truck going around in the morning full of like, fluffy, like black, fluffy shit that it crushes constantly. And you're like, What the hell is this? And they never talk about it. You just know something's going on, the hippies that are out in like City Hall lawn just disappear one day, and that just adds a lot of flavor to it. We see early on that our main actor is like, she does these fun like eye tricks. And then we watch the idiosyncrasies of Matthew Donald Sutherlands, character who's just weird and into cooking. And you know by the end of the film that when humanity goes away, this is the stuff we lose. And it's such good character writing. I love how they do that. Just yeah, a little bit, a little bit of fun. God, it's so good. A little bit of fun trivia. Robert Duvall, who had previously worked with Philip Kaufman in the Great Northern field Minnesota, RAID, happened to be in San Francisco at the time of filming, and shot his only scene for free. Kind of he played the crazy priest at the beginning on the swing. It's supposed to foreshadow the pod person anatomy and the alienation we feel later in the movie, according to the commentary on the DVD, he was paid with an Eddie Bauer jacket. Was hit by a Volkswagen Beetle while filming a shot while they were while he was running, he fell onto the windshield and was able to see the driver saying, Oh, God, not you. The leather half glove that David, Dr David kibner and Leonard Nimoy wore was deliberately used for the sole purpose of making the character more distinctive and recognizable. Nimoy got the idea from a friend of his, who wore it to cover a burn on his hand. The night of the movie's release, someone put pods like those in the movie all over the streets of LA some people got so freaked out that they thought they were real and called the police. Brooke Adams, the lead actress, challenged Donald Sutherland to a foot race during one of the film's many chase scenes after Philip Kaufman yelled cut, they just kept going. Adams won in a dress and high heels, no less. And there's a newspaper article in the film about web shrouding the Bay Area, which was genuine, and it happened the week before the filming commenced. So, oh, that's cool. This is one of the classics, yeah, favorite films of all time, and it's one that always gets left off when you talk about the the rare remake that is better than the original Absolutely. Yeah, I don't think I've seen the original, but I've read and watched Day of the Triffids. So I'm like, I feel like it's definitely better than day of trip is pretty good. Yeah, that's what's so surprising. So this is 10 times better. Somehow. I think what makes them both work is they're both very much of their time. The paranoia thing they're each talking about is different, yeah, and works perfectly for when it's made but yeah, I think this is probably in there with like, the hammer movies and some of those as the reason that led me to being a horror family like you, it is one of my absolute favorite films. Doesn't disappoint on a real weird I know that there's a Nicole Kidman first, yes, I've never seen the three. Films which are all kind of remakes of each other. The third one, I think, was Stuart Gordon, or at least he wrote it. It's also really good. So it's like, body, is it just bodies? Yeah, that one's pretty good too. It's good. It's not as strong as a story, but it's got some really good Yeah, watch it because I remember being like, not the Nicole Kidman. Oh, okay, that's a different Oh, okay, yeah, that was the fourth one. And I think there might even have been one since then. Well, it could be. I mean, it's such a Yeah, easily remakeable thing, yeah. But yeah, those first two are astounding. And, yeah, the second one is the best. I'm really glad for the rewatch, because I have not seen this movie in years, and I really did not remember how good it is. And I love that. It's just that 70s, Big Chill energy of people being fucking people. It's so I love that so much. Believe the disc is key, no lower, not arrow, so it's a lot more affordable. So arrow has the British 4k and key, and it's got different extras on it than um kinoli book, because I got, I went down on a deep rabbit hole after being like, why the fuck don't I own this? What the hell is wrong with me? I think I might have had it on DVD at some point or something, but, yeah, that's very mad. I've got a couple of them, but no, I don't know if we got that UK one. That is a powerhouse cast. And watching a lot of people just, I mean, I think it's before Jeff Goldblum, like full Jeff Goldblum, young, like, weird energy just works so well for him. Yeah, and it's great. Emo plays that weird 70s psychologist. So well, it's, it's so well written. Yeah, it's just like, you just know, you're like, This guy's this guy's bad. No, he's gonna, as soon as he starts like, mansplaining about, like, marriages to this chick and and like, whisking off women from, like, this woman from a party, and being like, you think your marriage is falling apart. But I'm gonna see you tomorrow at 10am with 10am with your husband. It is gonna get fixed, and then she's fixed, and you're like, fucking this guy's in on it, whatever it is, he's in. All right, great, great choice. Okay, give myself five minutes, and I'm talking About a film from 1976 called embryo you you'd be jeopardizing your career, your whole life. The results could be worth it. Nothing is worth going to jail for. I'm not asking for anything that has a chance for life on its own. 20 years, work is beginning to take shape. The development rate is now approximately one year to each 24 hour period, February, 16, 2pm rapid growth, still uncontrolled. Rate now about two years for every 24 hour period. My God, will it ever end? My name is Victoria, and she has just been born, eight and eight are 1616. And 16 are 32. I want to learn to experience. Will you teach me you're in pain. I'm here to help you. Victoria, this is directed by Ralph Nelson, who has got a couple of big ones on here. Requiem, for a heavyweight, once a thief, the wrath of God, a hero. Ain't nothing but a sandwich, my favorite, and written by Anita doing, who wrote a Beverly Hills, Christmas, whispers and second to die. And she wrote this with, well, she didn't write this with Jack Thomas. Jack W Thomas, I believe, wrote the original novel, love Texas, 13 fighting men, 20,000 eyes. Nice, starring Rock Hudson, who was in bright victory come September avalanche and, Oh, pretty maids all in row, which is the ones that I fucking love. Also in this is Barbara Carrera, who was in the Island of Dr Moreau, Condor man, Lone Wolf, McQuade and Diane lett. She was in something wild, the wild angels, Christmas vacation, wild at heart. She loves films with wild in the title. Have you guys seen embryo? No, this was a first time viewing for me, and I didn't even know about this movie. So I remember the. Poster, well, we meet Dr Paul Holliston, who is a geneticist who's been living alone after losing his wife in a car crash, and he has built a private genetics laboratory that is connected to his home. He is a very lonely man, and his only real friend is his sister in law, Martha, who also acts as his assistant. One night, Halston accidentally runs over a pregnant Doberman Pinscher, the dog is dying, and Holliston is triggered heavily by the death of his wife to do something really stupid. He he tries to save the unborn puppies of this dog, which he does by gestating it. He saves one puppy does by gestating it in an artificial uterus. And apparently he's a mad scientist, because he uses an experimental growth hormone made from human placental material, which speeds up the embryos growth. Oh my. The dog grows to full size in a few days. And halsim passes it off as the mother dog to disguise his secret experiment. Thanks to the serum, it, for some reason, learns incredibly fast and soon becomes a very well trained dog. However, Halston doesn't notice that the dog is also super smart and even more aggressive than usual. He leaves the doby in the car while he runs an errand, and a small Yorkie runs by and starts barking at the Doberman, who opens the car door, kills the Yorkie, drags it and hides it under a bush, gets back in the car and closes the door. Now this is all done by a real dog, so even if it's not evil, you're like Jesus is a smart dog. Pretty fucked, great. Holliston is so pleased with himself that he decides he must make a human in the same way, and he convinces a colleague to let him know when a pregnant suicide has come in, and to save the fetus, if possible. Yeah, he applies the same technique, but the female fetus cells age uncontrollably, so he uses a different drug to counter the effect. It finally works, and the embryo quickly grows into a beautiful, 22 year old woman. He names Victoria because she is his victory. Oh God. He educates Victoria while she is still growing, filling her head with recordings of encyclopedias and higher mathematics, and she soon has photographic knowledge of science, literature and culture. He begins introducing her to his friends and CO works as a college graduate niece, and in the best scene of the movie, he takes her to a swanky party full of professors and doctors, and she wows them with a riveting game of chess against a chess champion who was played by Roddy McDowall, infuriating him when she deliberately lets him win the final move. After that, Holliston completes Victoria's education by teaching her the ways of love that night. Soon afterward, though, Victoria discovers that her cells have become aging again, and she starts taking the special drug he had used to try and slow her aging down. At the beginning, I'm going to run out of time. I'm jumping towards the end. Victoria kills his sister in law, and she finds out that she has to, she has to use baby cells from, you know, unborn fetuses to stay young, and targets his daughter in law. Oh, God, so will Victoria kill Hollis and son, and then, surprisingly, the pregnant daughter in law, and then also the unborn baby. She needs to stop her uncontrollable aging. Yes, oh, will chase after her and I surprising car chase at the end of the movie and finally destroy her as she becomes an old lady, and will, in a supremely disturbing final scene, will the cops stop him from drowning her and drag him away while one cop off screen says, holy shit, this old lady is having a baby, sending Rock Hudson to his knees and begging them to kill it, but also sending a surprise burst of what the fuck giggles through me when the screen goes Black and we hear the cry of a newborn baby. On. It's pretty bonkers. Unfortunately, it also moves at a pace just above zero miles per hour. So if it could have been a really shocking movie, if it just been a little quicker, you know, I like sleazy shit, I got just a couple of pieces of trivia. A caption at the end of the movie is shown stating that the science of this movie is within our grasp, which it is not. And also Joyce Brothers, dr, Joyce Brothers has a cameo as herself at the party, but she is a biologist for some reason, rather than her actual profession as a psychologist. And I was like, what playing yourself, or are you playing? She's playing a different version of herself as a different doctor, which I didn't get weird. I was like, why did we have to name her, but then make her not who she is? Man, people do not know how to deal with cameos unless you're Matt Damon, right. I. Embryo, you guys, it is wild, man. I really, really wanted to love it. It's sleazy and everything, but it just fucking takes forever to get there. That's too bad it sounds bananas. Is wild? Yeah, they should have had her, like, had the baby at the end, and then try to use her own baby to young herself. Oh, because that's like, if she was desperate to, I mean, it's really good the embryoning. Okay, so whose choice is it next? I think it's yours. Yeah. Okay, well, you know, are you gonna go wildly crazy and do something other than sci fi or Okay, what if we went further back in time? Oh boy, and went to the 60s sci fi. Because there's a lot of 60s sci fi I've not checked out. So that's, that's I'm gonna lobby this back over the net, and we'll see what people do after this. But I'm gonna go with 1960s sci fi. Sounds good. This sounds groovy. Far out. Right on and solid to me. Okay, that means we're at the end of the show. We sit here and we do all of this stuff for you lovely people. And sometimes you lovely people give stuff back in return. That's true. We really love that you can do it in a number of ways. 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