335 1986!

335 1986!
AI continues to permeate the industry and the gang talks movies from 1986!
Also discussed: Marvel Zombies, 28 Years Later, Mission Impossible: Final Reckoning.

Transcript

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 I was very confused and I was very fascinated.

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 Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?

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 Somewhere between science and superstition.

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 We have such sights to show you.

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 Strange Eons. battered glass.

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 We do that for China a lot.

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 Without spoiling too much, the gay, have you guys seen "Together"?

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 I don't think so. I think I talked about it. You did talk about it. It's really good. And yeah, without spoiling too much, the gay couple's story is kind of a setup for what happens later. Changing it creates a plot hole. Oh, geez.

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 Why this matters. Editing out LGBTQ plus subject matter in foreign markets is nothing new. Warner Brothers cut dialogue from "Fantastic Beasts" and "Bohemian Rhapsody" lost three minutes of Freddie Mercury's coming out story to appease Chinese censors. But those were pre-approved edits that leave obvious scars. While it's unclear whether this was truly AI or just a shoddy editing job, the alterations here are virtually undetectable. Chinese viewers on film forums are calling it terrifying because viewers can't tell they're watching a doctored version. So if distributors can do that, what's next? You can just start changing storylines, actors. I mean, I don't know if you guys have seen what they're doing with AI voices.

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 It's hard to tell anymore. I think Warner Brothers, there's studio and talks to sign an AI actor.

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 Like there's some guy, I don't know if a guy or woman created this AI character that's been either an Instagram thing or a YouTube thing and is popular enough that they want to sign her as a performer to be in movies.

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 Wow, that's wild.

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 I mean, I thought that's why all the strikes happened for the actors unions to get more control over their voice and image moving forward as AI evolves. But not a completely created. No, I know, I know. I guess I'm just seeing the flip side of that. If we're taking actors and putting in other actors without their permission, without paying them, without, I feel like at least that has some legal webbing behind it, but yeah, I don't know what you do when you just, who gets paid? Who gets paid for an AI? The studio who puts out the movie takes all the checks. Yeah, I was gonna say, because the person who created it. Oh, for the AI, the creator does.

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 But they're using software that has stolen and scraped other people to create that. This is where it's all gonna be messy. Yeah, it gets really, yeah.

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 Software has been used to sell plenty of things for decades now, but then you gotta get the scraping part of it where you pulling your sources from and yeah, it's gonna be a mess. AI scrapes in just the right way, the eye and the paycheck.

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 Yeah, it's an interesting time. I've got a lot of friends who are just so anti-AI and I get it, it's scary and everything, but I also, and I'm the bad guy, because I'm like, you cannot fight the future. We have watched people try to fight the future forever. It never works.

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 And I bring these things up not because I approve of any of it, but I think it's interesting. It's pretty crazy times we're in right now. It's good to know because I mean, it was not very long ago that Will Smith was eating spaghetti looking ridiculous. Two years ago. Yeah, and it's happening so fast that if you're not paying attention, you're gonna miss. I mean, if you go through Facebook and Instagram now, every damn near every ad it seems has some AI stuff or like there's this weird thing going on with the advent calendars. Oh yeah.

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 It looks like little kind of Funko knock offs or Christmas or and it's blindingly obvious that that is not what those things are gonna look like. Right. It's just, it's everywhere. It is. I mean, I think that there's two, so it's such distinctly different AI things going on. There's AI that improves our world, makes it easier. Art is not necessarily stealing away jobs that anyone actually wants to do is making it so we can scrape through historical records more easily, improve science, improve technology, move us forward. And then there's of course AI that is here to deceive us, is here to manipulate us, is here to steal jobs from artists. So it's just too big of a term and I'm hoping eventually we'll get to a point where we can start to describe it more accurately because AI in itself is not the problem, it's the usage of AI. So you're right, there's no point fighting. It's not even the future, it's now, we're here. It's happening. Like every single piece of software I use has implemented some format of AI. Every video I have done for a corporation in the last two years have all been AI videos. Holy crap. All of them, they're all self-congratulatory. And hey, thank you for the money, I appreciate it. But they've all been like internal, we're doing great guys, wait until you use AI for this piece of technology or we help these 10 companies with their problems using our AI blah, blah, blah, we got this chip, we got blah, blah, blah. I mean, they're all deep into this world and we are too whether or not we recognize it. It's just gonna be tough moving forward to say, hey, there was a shooting today, was there? Wasn't there? Who did it? Who didn't do it? Who's telling me it was done? Who, what am I seeing that's showing me that it was done? Who is holding the gun? Who do we say in five days was holding the gun? What is their social media that we are seeing screenshots of? Is that real? Everything's gonna become extremely difficult to parse reality from fiction. And that's the part that I'm the most worried about because people are gullible and they've grown up believing what they can see in here and we can't do that anymore.

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 I agree. All right. Yeah. Let's go home now. That's why I bought guns for all of us. We will be ending our lives at the end of the show.

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 Paintball, guys. 1986 and no more. Purple and yellow, please.

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 You guys, I have watched some stuff.

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 Eric, you haven't talked about this and I'm a little surprised. What's that? Mission Impossible, Final Reckoning. I still haven't seen it. What?

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 (Laughing) Oh my God, you haven't seen it. I've seen this fucking thing. I watched it and I cried at the end. Did you really? Yeah.

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 Speaking of AI, why?

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 Because I felt like this was closure and I was like, oh, I've been with these guys for 30 fucking years and I've come to really love a lot of these characters, but not all of them make it through. And I was like, wow, this was a really solid thriller. Was it in the Trafalgar Square bit where they all walked? No. Okay. No, it wasn't that. There was a speech at the end that Tom Cruise listened to. Oh, sure.

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 Oh, I'm so glad you got that out of it. I will say, Tom Cruise getting out at the right time. If we're talking about AI, he needs to have sold his likeness and not be in movies anymore. I don't know if something is wrong. He's got a little bit of a puffy look, which happens when you're on cancer treatment and stuff like that. I was like, oh boy, I hope. I mean, not that I care. Tom Cruise is a horrible human being.

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 But as an actor, I'm like-- You've enjoyed much of his things. Yeah.

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 If anything comes out of this AI, they've got 40 years of his acting voice and face. They can certainly create an AI avatar to be in another hundred years of Tom Cruise movies. Was it Bruce Willis who sold his likeness before everything got really bad? Bruce Willis has done it. James Earl Jones sold his voice to Disney. Oh, wow. You know, so I have to imagine there, if they haven't already made a deal with Mark Hamill for his younger face,

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 then they've got to be doing that with him. Harrison Ford, you know, is a whore. He'll, as soon as the money hits the right price, he'll be like, I don't care what you do with it anymore. That's right. Give me the talk. Keep giving me the talk. That's right. If I can have me and my sandals on a beach with a cold drink, I'm happy.

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 So, you know, that's gonna happen. They'll just, there will be no need for casting young people as younger versions. They will just cast a body actor. Oh, jeez. Yeah, I mean, we're already doing so much of that anyway. I mean, how else do we get like stunt performances? Good point. Well, mission impossible though. Yeah, that's right. He's doing this. That's Tom holding onto the side of a plane for some reason. Of course. He sure is company. He's got to be like, what the fuck? Son of a bitch, man. He said he wanted to do what today? How many times? Gonna jump off what building?

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 Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was really good. I thought it was a really nice wrap up to the other movie. I don't know why this had to be two movies.

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 I think this story could have been told. I think that was the biggest problem with the overall for me. It was just too long. Based on the first movie. Just watching the first movie, it doesn't need to be two movies. Right. Right. Yeah. So you'll like it, Eric. It's everything you like about it. So it does get to the point where you realize that every single thing that they plan in this movie is like the hardest thing for anybody to do. And it all hinges on them being able to succeed at the hardest version of everything they're doing. And you're like, okay. Might be another way you could work on that. It seems like it could be, but there is definitely a ticking time bomb in this one. So they are running out of time. We're all running out of time in this one, Eric. Isn't that true anyway, I mean. We only have one life to live. The final reckoning.

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 No more additional reckoning. They didn't have little Tom Cruise kids like the conjuring or something show up to continue. Thank God, no. I cannot witness another lovemaking scene with Tom Cruise and his current state. I just can't do it. Tom Cruise shall reckon no more.

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 Well, I got the opportunity to watch a couple of films

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 earlier this month around my birthday. I had my greatest wish achieved in that my best friend came up from Oregon to stay with me for two whole nights. Wow. It's all I wanted. All I wanted. Easy person to please. I know. You say with all the traveling you've done in the past, I expected a much further away location to travel from. She's had some really bad physical things happen in the last year. It's made it very hard for her to get in a car and sit in it for like an hour or two. So I was really, really glad that she was able to make it out. But the thing I discovered was that

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 she had never seen the movie "Mean Girls."

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 And I, cause I said, I joked to her and I said, I gotta stop trying to make fetch happen. And she's like, what are you talking about? And I was like, what do you mean? What am I talking about? She had not seen it. So we all watched "Mean Girls" and still pretty good. I don't know. Maybe it's not as good as it was at that moment. I don't know. It's, I'm not a teenager anymore. That's awesome. But I have never seen "Mean Girls" either. Really? What's the story of "Mean Girls?" The story of "Mean Girls" is there's a girl named Katie who grows up in Africa. Her parents are, I don't, they're not missionaries, but they're like teachers or something overseas. She, they moved to a job somewhere in the States and she gets embedded into high school culture, which she has never experienced before. She just so happens to be very hot because she's Lindsay Lohan.

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 But she doesn't know she's hot. She doesn't understand clicks. She doesn't understand. This has been my life story. There you go. Yeah. She then discovers, she gets adopted by some very uncool kids. And at the same time, some very, very cool girls called the Plastics. And the uncool kids are like, hey, you need to find out all this shit about them and like share it with us. But while she starts hanging out with the Plastics, she becomes a plastic.

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 Yes. And the school slowly devolves into utter chaos. And I'm by the end, there's just a giant mass fight. It's written by Tina Fey.

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 So it's got a lot of really great humor in it. It's got, oh, what's his name from Peacemaker, the black guy who just started the season.

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 He's in it as like the principal and is really good. If it's kind of in the world of like 10 things I hate about you and a clueless sort of Yeah. kind of a. Yeah, late 90s, early aughts, high school movie, not too dark, not too serious, very silly, but. It's fun. It's good fun. Nice. It's good fun. And she enjoyed it? She did, I think.

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 I loved it.

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 As far as I know, she liked it.

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 Yeah. Cool. Well, she'll understand what the fuck I'm talking about. And that's all I really want. Yeah, that's right. You can make fetch happen now. I can make fetch happen if I try hard enough. I'm still working on rad staying relevant.

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 Why, that's a long slot. I know, it's spend a hard uphill battle, but I'm on it. Bitchin'. Bitchin'.

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 Totally tubular. Anything the Ninja Turtles would say. Oh, okay, well there you go. Oh, Captain, my Captain.

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 So I went a little further back. I'm continuing the 100 days of horror. I'm somewhere in the 70s or something like that

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 continuing to watch movies that somebody almost inevitably, you've never seen that. Like Blackula earlier and The Devil's Rain. I'm pretty surprised about The Devil's Rain. Yeah, I had never seen it. More interesting to me is, did you like The Devil's Rain?

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 Yeah, because it was not what I was expecting. I was kind of expecting it to be schlocky Mystery Science Theater kind of target movie, which was not very good, but because of who was in it, Ernest Borgnine and Shatner and all that, it sort of escalates up. It's actually a pretty solid film. I mean, it's B-movie. It's definitely the kind of thing, an Elvira show or something would have, but I think Tom Skerritt has some good moments in it. And it's just, it's at least interesting.

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 And is 1975. So it's right in that realm of battling Satanists and things.

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 His name always makes it hard to take Ernest Borgnine kind of seriously, but he's a good actor sometimes. And he's good in this.

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 I just enjoyed it. It's not gonna shoot to the top of my list, but it was better than I was expecting. I think I've tried to watch this like twice and I cannot finish it. I find this movie just dull. Okay, well, yeah, I can kind of see that. Maybe I watched this after I watched Grizzly. Oh.

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 Yeah, I'm there with Kelly. I found it pretty boring, but you spent so much time in that barn.

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 It's just really low. It's very low budget, but you're right in that, it is not that level of expectation. It definitely has stuff happening in it. And it's not laughably bad. Exactly, yes. It's got a little more than a lot of those B grade films that are legendary.

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 Sidebar based on this and your 100 days, have you seen Burn Witch Burn?

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 1960 two maybe? I don't know. Man, put that on the list.

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 I'm doing some Halloween watching of myself and I realized I had never seen this, also known as a Knight of the Eagle. And I watched that this morning and I was like, what the heck? This movie is awesome. Nice. Very creepy for the sixties. Ooh, that's awesome. You did pull off some weird unexpected stuff when you really start looking. Yeah, yeah. Put that on your 100 days. I didn't mean that to sound so mean. Put that on your 100 days. Yes. Fucking asshole. Can I watch this dipshit stuff?

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 Speaking of Halloween stuff,

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 Marvel Zombies is available. Oh my gosh, I did see that. I saw that the other day.

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 It's only four episodes for the season and I kind of like it because it tells basically a two hour movie.

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 Now, is it as good as the Marvel Zombies comic? No. I realized that that storyline might be a little too dark for Disney channel, which basically if you haven't read the comic, Pitts, the Avengers, basically every superhero on Earth turning into zombies and them as the protagonist as they try to find more and more food. So that gets a little dark.

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 This version of it. Bye.

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 And the guilt that they are also dealing with with eating human brains and all of this stuff. It's written by Robert Kirkman. Oh, okay. It's a really good comic book. Holy hell.

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 This is basically the least of the new heroes they've introduced. So Marvel Girl, Hawkeye and Ironheart start the movie off. That is horrible. And then the, and then what's his name? Red Guardian. Red Guardian and the new Black Widow, she joins. And while this universe of Earth has been taken over by zombies and the zombies in this, the superhero zombies are pretty mindless, but they're all controlled by the Scarlet Witch, which is really a cool villain. Oh, wow.

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 It's a good enough story, especially at Halloween time, if you wanna see kind of crazy, gory animated zombies, I thought it was pretty good. But I was like, oh, I really wish you guys would follow the comic book, but you could do much worse. I've only seen the first episode and I was kind of like, I don't know if I'm gonna watch the rest, but you're making me feel like I should watch more. The second episode then starts with the outbreak. Oh, that sounds much better. And it's, but then it follows Shang-Chi and his sidekick. They are taking such random characters. Yeah, it's a different, also it's a different universe. So he's not Shang-Chi yet. So he starts fighting and all of a sudden she's like, "What, you can fight?" And you're like, "Oh, apparently." She doesn't even know that he's this person. So it kind of changes that stuff around, but it, and then it jumps five years later and becomes almost a Mad Max movie with the two of them.

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 And it goes into some interesting places. Just, you know, not as dark as it could be. And I understand why they had to do that. Well, I'm definitely reading the comic. That sounds cool as hell. Yeah, that first Six-Ichio series is great, especially the ending. The ending is just like, "Oh my God, this is a amazing ending." Especially if it's ruined by Robert Kirkman. Like I don't love everything he does, but he is a great writer. Yeah, and he's done all right for himself with zombie stories. Yeah, I think I, I think, I don't know that I finished it. I think I'm maybe one or two volumes away from the ending of that and it's just such a slog. Did that end? Did the comic book end? It did, it did finally. It kind of. I think he wanted his life back. Yeah, it kind of phases out a little bit at the end where they're still trying to basically do what they've done four or five times before. Hey, look, new, here's a new hero. Here's a new villain. It's like, okay.

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 Yeah, yeah.

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 Well, continuing my birthday journey, I also discovered that my husband had never seen Princess Bride. Never heard of it. Oh, jeez. And it was one of those times where like, and I get this, like if you were, I don't know, me in high school and all of your friends were obsessed with Monty Python and all of a sudden you had to watch Holy Grail and you're sitting in a room full of people just quoting it all the way through the movie and it feels like nails on chalkboard. That was kind of his interpretation of what Princess Bride was gonna be like. And I was like, well, let's just watch it. I have the criterion, beautiful, like looks like a book hardback version. I've read it, like, let's just do this.

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 And it is just such a delightful film. It's just a warm, fuzzy, it's not like, I don't know. I think it does get maybe a little bit overhyped and people just saying, oh, it's the most perfect movie of all time, but it is just a genuine, good,

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 kind, like easy movie with a lot of good writing in it and great acting. So he actually did really like it. That was great. I was very happy about it. Timeless. It's super. There's really nothing like it still. Yeah. The Stardust kind of comes close. Did you guys ever see Stardust? Yeah, that was fun, but it definitely-- I mean, they were trying. Yeah, but it was good. I had read the book, so I remember watching it and being like, man, brr. Well, I mean, in that kind of, that feeling of what they were trying to do, feel good, fantasy, love, all that stuff. 100%, 100%.

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 As I may have mentioned before, Suncoast for 16 years, this was the only video, the only movie I never had an employee bitch about.

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 (Laughing) The only one that everybody could at least like, even if they didn't think it was great. So yeah, it was fine. That was not true of anything else. Oh my God.

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 Oh. Can you imagine coming across a person who's like, yes, I have seen it and I hated it? Look at the thing, it's like, how? This is a person I might want to be wary of. Yeah, like I can see people hating the kind of people who watch it, but I feel that way about Star Trek too. It's like, yeah, like easy peasy or Star Wars, you know, it's like anybody who's, there's a fandom that you may not wanna be a part of, but the actual product itself is really lovely. And I was like, look, it's the lady from Strange New Worlds. Who's the new head engineer, she's married to. She's not a witch. She's not a witch, she's a wife.

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 Yeah, see, that's now I'm becoming it. It'll happen.

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 Okay, so I watched another, this year one that I hadn't had a chance to see in theaters, just 28 years later.

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 Finally. We've talked about this before, I'm pretty sure. I really liked it. She said in theaters, I still have not seen it. I really enjoyed it. Yeah? Yeah.

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 It looks so fucking bleak. I mean, yeah. It sort of is, but it's not. It's not endless, it's not bleak. Yeah, the long book is a lot. There's like some moments in there that are actually kind of nice. Okay. It's like little vacations within its own self. Let me ask you this,

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 better than 28 weeks later. I was about to say, I think it might be my favorite of the trilogy. Wow. I haven't seen the, I haven't seen 28 days or weeks in a long time. 28 days later is almost unwatchable. Oh, is it pretty bad now? When you watch it, you're like, oh, I forgot how horrible this looks. Man, I have it on my list maybe for this October to rewatch it. It's a good movie, but I mean, about 15 minutes into my rewatch, I was like, I can't watch this. This fucking looks like it was shot on VHS. Maybe. It's just awful. And then 28 weeks later, I was like, fuck, I forgot how awesome this movie is. So you saying this is better than 28 weeks later? Might be. Like I said, it's been a long time since I've watched it, but I remember, I think I felt like, wow, more than the other ones. Okay. And there's the sequel coming out very soon. Two sequels. The trailer was up for before long walk when we watched it on Friday, and it looks pretty damn good. Excellent. I think, okay.

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 So this is streaming now. So I was like, oh, maybe I'll give this a shot if I want to get really depressed. I don't think you'll be super depressed. I mean, it's a bleak subject matter, but it's not gonna bum you out any more than Marvel zombies. I mean, it's a zombie story. It's more, the world is established now. Everybody's living in it. It's not the, I'm still watching all my friends and stuff die and all the things as much anymore. It's more about this is our world. Plus got my new crush in it, Craven.

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 That's right. (Laughing) I just can't, I just can't, oh my God.

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 I'm so happy for you, Kelly, that you were enjoying that man-hunk all on your lonesome. Somebody out there needs to. Listen, somebody needs to watch Craven again and remind themselves of how cool he is. Aaron Taylor Johnson. That in bit when he's on the chair and he's like, ugh. I was like, I can't, I can't. Oh my God. Is he hunky in this, Eric? No, it's not really hunky guys. He's kind of in a sweater most of the time. He's very Scottish.

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 Well, you know, it's cold looking out there. Yeah, it looks cold. He's very Scottish. He's in a sweater.

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 (Laughing) It's, you know, chilly.

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 I don't know what to tell you. Were you bumped by the ending like Vanessa was? I was surprised by what it was, but now that I've seen the trailer, I get, oh, I see exactly what they're doing. Oh, okay. So it definitely leads into the next movie. I just think the trailer, Jesus. It moves right into the, all those weird characters are, looks like might be the leads for the next film. I'm sure they are. Honestly, like I'm still very looking forward to watching the next one. I was just surprised. I was like, okay, we are gonna do this. That's interesting. And some of it for me too, like there's a period in the 90s where I just love Danny Boyle, I just shallow grave and train spotting and stuff. And then he kind of dipped for a while. And this is one I've liked more than I've seen in a long time. Did he direct this one again?

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 I thought he did. I think. Or was it Alex Garland? Well, maybe that's why. I think he directed it. I think Alex wrote it. I know he's not directing this new one. So yeah, so I was curious if he started the new trilogy up or. He's directing the second one. Yeah, he did, he directed it. Okay. Just him. Weird. Alex was the writer. I do find it very, very funny that they're like, we'll have to see how it does before we do the next. You guys definitely were filming it back to back. Come on. You fucking kidding me? You knew all along. You had that, I'm sure the third one's gonna be ready to roll right after too. Nia Da Costa is directing the "Bong Temple." Oh, see? Oh, okay. See, this is a director that I have a love-hate relationship with.

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 So let's hope that she can pull it off. I think I might watch that tonight. No. Excellent. If you guys both say that you liked it that much. Yeah.

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 Okay.

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 Well, how about we take a little break and then when we come back, we are finally diving into 1986.

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 (Rock Music) (Upbeat Music)

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 (Muffled Voices)

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 Cut, Mom, man, let's go.

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 (Upbeat Music) Five, four, five, six, seven, eight. Hey, Mom, I'm gonna make it. (Upbeat Music)

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 Out!

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 (Upbeat Music) Out!

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 Four!

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 Rookie!

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 (Upbeat Music) Out, out, out, out! You're out! Laser tag, it's hotter than ever from "Worlds of Wonder." (Rock Music)

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 (Rock Music)

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 And we're back. Guys, this was my sub-genre and I chose it months ago, it seems.

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 1986, which is what I usually fall back on when I can't think of something. I'm like, let's pick a cool year and everybody gets something. Turns out 1986 was a pretty cool year. Yeah, no kidding. I, putting five minutes on the buzzer, and I got to see a movie that I had never seen before.

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 It is called "Dead End Drive-In." (Upbeat Music) Yeah!

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 (Upbeat Music)

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 Too late, too late, too late I can see a thing Your illusion promised yourself I'm the creature

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 From the world away Is it true you've lost all of your love Are you still the same, same, same

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 No closer, stop to admit you got sicker

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 Is it true you've lost all of your love Is it true you've lost all of your love

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 Is it true you've lost all of your love Is it true you've lost all of your love

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 "Dead End Drive-In."

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 Getting in is easy. Getting out, it's hell on wheels. (Upbeat Music)

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 (Upbeat Music)

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 Directed by Brian Trenchard Smith, who directed "Stunt Rock," "Turkey Shoot," "Night of the Demons 2," "Leprechaun 3" and "4," is written by Pete Smalley, who wrote "Return of Captain Invincible," "The Wild Duck," and "Emma's War," and also written by Peter Carey, who wrote "Until the End of the World," true history of the Kelly Gang, huh? Hey, yeah, right.

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 Starring Ned Manning from "Get Away, Get Away,"

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 aftershocks and "Random 8," Natalie McCurry from "Stones of Death," "Time Tracks and Mushrooms," and Peter Whitford. Tons of Australian television, including "Bullpit" and "The Henderson Kids."

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 Eric, I know you've seen this, Vanessa. Have you seen "Dead End Drive-In?" I was just looking, I do not think I have. I think you might like this.

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 Sometime in the near future, possibly the 1990s, the economy has collapsed and crime waves are sweeping the cities. We get a little bit of exposition talking about the Wall Street market crashes, and I thought it was really interesting that we actually had a Wall Street market crash one year after this movie came out in 1987.

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 We meet Jimmy Krabs, the oldest teenager in the world. I mean, this guy's gotta be 40 fucking years old. He sneaks off in his brother's vintage 56 Chevy to take his girlfriend, Carmen, to the local drive-in. While they're getting intimate in the backseat of the car, someone steals the rear wheels of the car, and when Krabs goes to report it to the manager running the drive-in, the guy tells him they'll have to spend the night and deal with it in the morning.

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 While the morning comes, and Krabs and Carmen are a bit surprised to wake and find that everyone from the night before is still in the drive-in.

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 See, in an attempt to control the crime waves, drive-in theaters have been seized by the state and turned into open-air prisons of sort. The police have collaborated with the drive-in owners, and the inmates are given food vouchers for all the drive-in food, candy, drugs, alcohol, and a steady diet of exploitation films like "Turkey Shoot." Oh my God. Very quickly, and I do have more to say about this, gangs and cliques are formed, and there's the expected clashes.

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 Time drags on and Krabs attempts to escape, but finds out that the fences are electrified. After stealing a few wheels for his car, he plans a daring theft of a police cruiser's fuel, only to find that his engine has been stripped as well. And another problem is that his girlfriend, Carmen, seems to have adapted pretty well to the drive-in conditions, and she started hanging with a group of very racist female inmates and using their drugs and such.

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 Will Krabs be able to somehow make it past the machine gun-toting cops that patrol the perimeter?

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 Will Carmen snap back to reality and help him, or will she become another obstacle he has to make it past to finally gain his freedom?

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 I had a really, really good time with this movie, and that makes the inconsistency that I have a problem with a huge fucking bummer. So for example, they go to the drive-in that night, and then everyone is trapped there the next morning. But these gangs have already formed, and people are bringing Krabs and Carmen around to various parts of the drive-in to show them how things are done, and I'm like, "It seems like this has been in prison for weeks or maybe even months, so that doesn't make sense." It helps the story. There's a way to make this work either way, and all it took was another pass at the script,

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 or a line of fucking dialogue. I hate those kind of changes. So that's stuck in my crop. And that's because I like the movie so much because it has this bizarre prequel feeling to it. It feels very much like it is taking place right before the first Mad Max movie. And I was just like, "Oh, this feels like we're in that universe." Especially when you see the inner city that the kids are at at the beginning of the movie, there's all these cars that are already tricked out and look like they should be from Mad Max and everything. And the car culture gang in the drive-in was called the Car Boys, which is very real warrior sounding.

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 The movie was not very successful, and I can kind of see why, because with all that stuff going on, it feels like there's very little going on. Not a lot happens in the movie.

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 One piece of trivia, director Brian Trenchard Smith states that, "U.S. distributor New World Pictures originally planned to follow the example set by AIP's release of Mad Max by issuing the movie with a new voice track featuring American performers revoicing the Australian actors. But according to RJ Kaiser, who was the director of the voice actors, the American version was never screened. He said that the dialogue was fully replaced, but not screened even for New World executives, because while they were mixing the last reel, the order came from-- (Buzzer Buzzing)

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 So close. The order came from New World to cease all work because they actually did not have the legal right to-- Oh, doublet. Shit. So the mix was finished and the masters went directly into New World's vault, unseen and unheard to this day. Wild. Yeah. Dead end drive-in. Man, the trailer, or the poster is not at all what the movie is. I remember seeing this all the time in the video store and I thought, oh, there's a slasher in a drive-in movie. And it is nothing like that. I don't know that 1986 Kelly would have appreciated this movie.

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 A little slow. It's a little slow. There's not a lot happening and I liked monsters or action or something. And there's none of that in this. But bitter, grizzled Kelly really enjoyed it and was like, yeah, this sounds right. I can see this happening.

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 I'll take one of those movie prisons, please. Right, right. Vanessa, you wanna go next? I do.

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 So I'm gonna go with a film I also had not seen or heard of before, 1986 movie Link. (Dramatic Music)

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 (Exhales) For centuries, the Link between man and the primates has been shrouded in darkness.

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 Surrounded by mystery. Dr. Phillip is expecting me. Now one man has closed the gap. Well, he's a different kind of intelligence. Forged the Link. It's different, all right.

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 And discovered what has always been missing.

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 Don't get involved in their squa-whores. They sort them out.

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 Link, what happened in here? Always forgive them, whatever they do.

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 Don't ever let anything escalate. You all right? I killed her.

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 Link, I said stop pushing!

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 (Dramatic Music) Help open the door now! You gotta outthink him. How?

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 Join! (Dramatic Music)

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 Link, man is no longer in control.

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 Which is a monkey movie. Yeah. A monkey movie that we have not done before. Apparently we haven't. Crazy. I am positive I have talked about this on this, but I can find no record of the deal. I know, we're having a real Mandela effect with this show right now. But as far as we know, unless one of our viewers can tell us, listeners can tell us otherwise,

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 Link, 1986, I watched this as an Amazon rental, is directed by Richard Franklin, who has 22 credits including Psycho 2, The Blue Lagoon, Road Games, Beastmaster TV series, and The Lost World TV series.

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 The music is done by Jerry Goldsmith, who has 257 composing credits including Gremlins, LA Confidential, Star Trek First Contact, so many movies. This guy has been around starring Terence Stamp, which is another main reason why I wanted to do this. We had just done the Limey, a special episode. It's pretty darn good. Pretty dang awesome. He's also in Superman II, Adjustment Bureau, which I recently talked about, and the last credit he has is for last night in Soho.

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 Elizabeth Shue, 64 credits including Adventures in Babysitting, which I saw many times growing up, Leaving Las Vegas and currently in The Boys. Wait, no, no longer in The Boys.

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 Steven Finch, 165 episodes of Brookside.

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 Jed plays Imp the Chimp, Locke, the orangutan plays Link, and Carrie plays Voodoo the Chimp. The plot, we start the film with a POV of an ape on a sort of a rampage, chasing a cat up the side of a building to a roof, scaring a little girl, and the next day we see what's left behind, which is a carnage of dead birds, dead cats, and no chimp at all. Then we cut to Elizabeth Shue. Jane Chase is attending class in a London campus for LCS, which I think is actually LSC,

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 London College of Sciences.

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 It's an anthropology class held by Dr. Steven Phillip, played by Stamp. He is talking about the brutality of the chimpanzee. Afterwards, she catches up with him and asks him if she can be an assistant for him, and he begrudgingly agrees to have her come to his home during the holidays and help him out. She's super psyched, she's read his book, she can't wait to dive into the world of chimps. When she arrives, she discovers he lives in a seaside Victorian mansion alongside three chimps. Link, who wears clothes and acts as a kind of a butler. What a silly boy he is. Imp, who's a young male chimp, still kind of learning and maybe a little bit erratic, and Voodoo, who's a very aggressive female.

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 Dr. Steven gives her a set of rules to follow around the chimps, and although she disagrees with them, because it's a lot about treating them like they are not your equals, you are to be in charge of the chimps, and you know, certain things.

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 She believes you should be kind towards them, but agrees to his rule set. He tries to round up the chimps because he intends on selling Voodoo to a local zoo.

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 The chimps corner him and maybe kill him, it seems like it. (Jared Laughs) But meanwhile, on the other side of the door, Jane is walking past and hears a voice recording of him saying, "Go away, leave me alone," and she thinks it is him, so she just has missed him in the night.

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 However, Jane soon discovers that she is actually alone in the house with the chimps. She cannot figure out what happened to the doctor. His car is missing, he is missing,

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 and each interaction with the chimps becomes more dangerous, more aggressive,

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 eventually discovering that Voodoo has turned up dead.

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 Imp is kind of being bullied by Link, and Link has become obsessed with her, has an attachment for her, seems to kind of see her at first almost protective and sweet, and then possessive and deadly. With no car, the road surrounded by aggressive loose dogs and destroyed phone lines, she slowly realizes that Link may be more than he initially appears.

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 The music in this movie is fucking unhinged.

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 It is so out of control.

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 It's mostly a mix of circus antics. One soundtrack review-y compared it to a sort of Gremlins meets Hoosiers sound. Oh my God, you jeez. If it weren't for the music in this film, which is constantly zany, this would probably be one of the most (Buzzer Buzzing)

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 genuinely scary ape horror movie side scene, but instead it feels like I should be really scared and I am on the inside, but the music is reassuring me. I'm in safe hands while the ape is ripping a man's arm off through a wooden door and having good fun about it.

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 There's a scene where Link is watching her nude in the bathroom and it is so fucking uncomfortable, even though you're like, "Oh, hey, Elizabeth's shoe's hot and we're seeing her nude." You're also like, "Fuck, I feel bad and horrible. Put some goddamn clothes on. This monkey is aggressively looking at you." Terence Stamp is way too good in this film. He is just playing this eccentric chimp owner and lover in such a way. It's kind of like Quint from Jaws, but if he hadn't taken himself quite so seriously, he just does such a good job.

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 On the flip side, Elizabeth's shoe kind of sucks.

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 I think that she just, I don't know, it's a lot to do with the writing. Her decisions to be nice to the chimps in the face of them, clearly wanting to murder her is just very strange. You're like, "Just fucking get the gun." And she's like, "I'm just gonna be nice and patted on the head." I'm like, "It just murdered a guy. Really? Okay."

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 I would say that this film falls in the definitely so bad, it's good category. I have just a little bit of trivia. I'm way over time. The tagline is, "Man is no longer in control," exclamation mark. It has a horror art certificate. Director Richard Franklin was asked to use makeup for the apes, but he elected to use real apes and editing techniques to make them seem

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 like how they were actually reacting. From the technical viewpoint, it was really not as hard as I had anticipated, said Franklin. There was a lot of pressure on me, even at the last minute, to use men in suits, though, which I thought would be dishonest. We weren't making a fantasy. We weren't making "Grace Steak" with its fable-like qualities. We were doing something which is supposed to be based on what chimps really do. This is Elizabeth Shue's first nude scene, partially nude. Her full frontal is using a body double. One of the primates reportedly bit Elizabeth Shue during the filming of this movie on her right arm.

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 EMI and Canon between them cut 13 minutes of this film from release. I can't imagine what they cut out, but I would like to see it. In 1979, Richard Franklin optioned a short outline, which he described as a sort of jaws with shrimps, at shrimps, with chimps.

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 (Both Laughing) He did not do anything with it until the writer, Everett DeRoche, showed him a National Geographic article by Jane Goodall about violence among chimpanzees. Franklin later said what sparked the idea of the film was Goodall observing the cannibalizing of young chimpanzees by one particular mad female chimp. She observed actual interverbal warfare, not unlike the opening of 2001 between two groups of chimps. And the whole 60s idea of man being the only animal to make war against its own kind was suddenly thrown out the window. Since then, we've discovered that lions and other animals do it as well, but that to me was really interesting idea for a good thriller.

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 Well, Eric, she used up your five minutes too. I sure did. Sorry, she was done. Oh well. 1986, what a year. I like this movie a lot. I don't think it's so bad. It's good. I think it's very under scene and pretty fucking creepy. It's so creepy. It's just, it's honestly the music that really does some strange things for me. And the final death scene with the chimp in the fire and it suddenly becomes just a JPEG essentially that spins around into the void.

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 It's low budge for sure. But I do like your idea of Jaws with shrimps though. I'm now thinking. Terrifying.

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 It could be a whole, I mean, if you give them little teethy mouths. I've run out of cocktail sauce. And hit the end, yeah, you just get a little butter and some fucking. What's in the chum for the shrimps, you know?

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 Not much. Just Martini. I don't know what shrimpy. Eric.

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 Five minutes. Yeah. Sorry. Don't worry. I'm rusty. I will feel not great. I'll feel okay not talking more than five minutes about 1986s, Thunder Run.

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 (Dramatic Music)

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 On a forgotten stretch of hell,

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 a deadly journey is about to begin. The cargo, the most dangerous substance on earth. We're setting a trap Charlie and you are the bait. I have to go with you. No way in the world son.

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 (Tires Screeching) The enemy, killers, terrorists who will stop at nothing.

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 (Dramatic Music)

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 Hit number five. (Dramatic Music)

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 (Dramatic Music) They've got grenades.

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 (Dramatic Music) Hit number four.

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 (Dramatic Music) Son of a. (Dramatic Music)

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 Thunder Run, it's drive or die.

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 Directed by Gary Hudson, this is his only film.

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 He's done a lot of acting though. He's in Roadhouse and sequel to one of the 50 Shades of Grey films. Written by Charlize Davis, who wrote The Violent Ones, Death Valley Days and Carol Heyer, only writing credit. But was involved in Megaforce. Oh no, some aspect.

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 Carol Lynn, Click and the calendar girl killer.

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 Forrest Tucker's the lead actor in this. You might know him from three episodes of The Love Boat. Three episodes of Fantasy Island.

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 15 episodes of 1975's The Ghostbusters and The Crawling Eye. What? About 150 credits. 250 credits. John Ireland from Red River, Spartacus, Sundown, The Vampire Retreat and tons of TV. 209 credits. And John Shepherd from Deep Cover, The Hunt for Red October, Friday the 13th, New Beginning, budget stuff.

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 Cast is fine. Cast is not the problem.

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 The movie starts off kind of interesting with a, what seems to be an innocent group of a couple of people taking a station wagon down the road when suddenly aren't people show up, the car in front of them explodes, they have to swerve off the road and people shoot both of them and take some box of

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 plutonium looking kind of stuff out of the car. Cause you know, it's 86 and all the bad shit's radioactive. Yes.

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 So after that, we join a group of street racers.

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 And for some reason, one of the racers grandparents is out there cheering them on, it's like, okay, well, that's nice. Good for you.

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 While also kind of discouraging. It's a weird dichotomy.

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 I say about 20 minutes into this film and I have no idea what is going on. No idea what this movie is going to be. But turns out the mission is going to be a,

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 I'm sure it'll be just as good as Sorcerer and Wages of Fear movie about a group of people or a guy driving a truck with said plutonium. I missed how the people at the beginning didn't end up getting it or where the people in the beginning that terrorists stealing it and is the government stealing it back. But anyways, he's supposed to move it to a military base of some kind while terrorists try to steal it along the way. For this, he will get paid $250,000.

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 All right.

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 No, this is not as strong as Wages of Fear or the Sorcerer. It has moments. The problem is those moments are about with 20 minutes left in the movie. It finally starts doing stuff and really moving and it's pretty good. The ending is fun. The nice action with one of the terrorists getting, I don't care if we get the plutonium or not, I must get revenge against this driver. And weird little things like for some reason the place they're delivering it to doesn't necessarily know they're coming. So they have codes they have to use to break through into the military base.

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 What is this?

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 No, thank you. We don't want that plutonium. We already have enough. That's right. We're good. We're good there.

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 The acting's all good. It's all fine. It's just, I mean, it's only like an hour and 20 minutes or something like that, an hour and 30 minutes. It'd be good at an hour and 20. There's just a good chunk in the middle where it just slogs you down. But the ending's fun and if you haven't seen either of those films I've mentioned, go enjoy this one first.

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 Oh boy. So let's see, do I have anything else to add to this?

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 Oh, the tagline, for 200 miles, the action never stops.

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 (Laughing) It's the last 100 miles that you're gonna get really bored with. There you go, yes. And it's all through this back desert

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 boring looking place which is the worst place to drive. Something you're trying to protect because there's buttes on the side. There's plenty of places to hide. It's like, this is a really poor choice. Oh, there's one weird little interesting thing. The European and US releases have a few minutes different. And what's cut is just the guy's kid who drives with him coming in and meeting his girlfriend and music's playing and he's going to Vegas and that was.

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 (Buzzer Buzzing)

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 Is the kid still in the movie in other places? Yeah. Is the girlfriend still in the movie in other places? I don't think so. So they didn't get rights for her. No, maybe they might've been it. Well, no, she's in it when he's racing. Well, I don't know. Yeah, I think it's the song. I'm guessing it's the song that's played because it kind of, it does the intro, kind of has credits and then he's there. And then it's like the war guy's talking.

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 But in the uncut version, there's this song and the full credits play. So I think that's probably what it was. Thunder run. Yes, that is a real high risk military term involving rapid aggressive assault deep into enemy territory using armed vehicles, kind of the shock and awe thing, except with on the ground. Cool title wasted on a shitty movie sounds like. It's a fine movie. I mean, it's better than Bigfoot. If you watched the previous episode or listen to it. I don't know if I can like deal with your scale. Your internal scale for good versus bad movies is never gonna quite light up for me. Well, there's the Al Adamson,

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 what's his name? Stuff over here that I realize is shit but I find interesting because the artistic concept of a artiste. And then there's the shit I love like Amadeus thing and all the stuff that is actually a good movie. Yeah. I can like them both.

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 (Both Laughing)

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 I like that about you.

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 Real wild card, Eric. It took a long time to develop that.

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 Eric, we were talking about that book that Bob gave us and you had an idea of making an episode out of it. Yeah, that's on it. It's not Bob's book, but Bob did donate it to the-- VHS video cover art. It is such a cool looking book and it is just all these wild covers for all these VHS. And the interesting part, you didn't own a copy. Vanessa already has a copy. Correct. And I had one in my queue to buy. Well, I know that this was-- So we're all gonna have our own damn copy. I know that this was given to Strange Yans Radio but apparently it's going to live at the Strange Yans Radio offices. Which makes sense. So yeah, for our next episode, we'll each be picking something from this. Yeah, thanks Bob. Hopefully we'll be able to find it well enough to watch it. Oh, I'm sure. I have a-- I have a ways. I have streaming sites for me.

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 I have ways, you guys. If you find something you can't find, reach out. There you go. Might just have to. Magical.

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 Arr. Does that still exist?

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 Is there another one? Cause I could not find an arr for a while now.

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 Anyway. Guys, that brings us to the part where we say, hey everybody, thanks for supporting us in various ways like you do. Some people donate money. Some people donate amazing books.

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 It's called Value for Value. If you get a little value out of this show, give a little value back. That can even be just liking and sharing posts on Facebook.

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 Getting on the Facebook Strange Yans Radio talk page and discussing Eric's 100 days of horror with him. If you watch your own, feel free to post. If you've watched a movie you want to talk about, please post it, bring it on to our attention and-- Yeah, also it's a shit movie. Eric will probably watch it clearly. (Laughing) Does not matter the quality level. As long as it meets a film length. Yes. He is like a trash movie compactor.

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 (Laughing) Give it all to him.

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 It also means if you're out there and you're watching this on YouTube and you leave a comment or you press a thumbs up or something, that is a value to us. Thank you so much for that. It gets it into the algorithm. More people see it.

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 How else can they interact with us when we say-- You can also get a hold of us on the Strange Yans Radio hotline. The phone number for that is 253-237-4266. You can send us a text message. You can leave us a voicemail. Go ahead and get in touch. Leave us a drunk dial. It's all good. We're here for you. Day or night on the hotline. Drunk dial might be interesting.

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 Or if you've listened to this show and Kelly's discussions of certain things made you curious, please definitely call when you try that. Or made you furious. Yeah, just immediate reaction. Go ahead and call us right now. 253-237-4266. Be like, "Hey, I love this. I hate this. I mmm, this movie.

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 We hate Uncle Jamie."

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 (Laughing) It's so good.

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 I have a second edition of the Secret Language of Spiders out. It is the same as the first edition

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 with the new cover, except that it contains the original screenplay the book was based on. First edition and second edition now have this new cover. So if you are looking for this, look at the price. There is a price difference. Don't accidentally buy the same version you had.

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 That's it, guys. We're gonna be back in two short weeks and we are talking about something from this book. Ooh, a VHS cover art book. See you next time.

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