336 BAWB'S BOOK!

336 BAWB'S BOOK!

Vanessa's husband is trying to murder her! And the gang picks movies from the VHS cover art book donated by Bawb!
Also discussed: One Battle After Another, The Black Phone 2, Good Boy, The Toxic Avenger.

Transcript

[11:13:26:08 - 11:13:28:08]
Speaker 1
 I don't have a good argument against that.

[11:13:28:08 - 11:13:38:10]
Speaker 3
 Every time I log into your Facebook or Instagram, I'm like, why am I it's something when like the only happy social media I have left now is TikTok.

[11:13:39:15 - 11:13:42:23]
Speaker 3
 Because it's algorithm now just keeps me strong that you've got.

[11:13:42:23 - 11:13:47:22]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, they're not trying to feed you weird shit like Facebook keeps you.

[11:13:49:00 - 11:13:53:04]
Speaker 1
 I've never even clicked on a link about this subject. Why are you sending me to

[11:13:53:04 - 11:14:04:22]
Speaker 2
 do what I do and be off of it for a while and then get on. I don't see anybody I knows. It's just marketing, it's just marketing and different groups and stuff like that that

[11:14:04:22 - 11:14:06:01]
Speaker 3
 you're not a part of.

[11:14:06:01 - 11:14:12:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, that's wild. I don't know my friends are on my list anymore. And guess what? I like my friends again.

[11:14:12:04 - 11:14:16:13]
Speaker 3
 That's a big plus. Yeah, I think it's what it needed to.

[11:14:18:00 - 11:14:38:06]
Speaker 1
 I took my, you know, you've got your little things on your phone. I took my social media one and cleared it off my regular phones and I was just in the background in the background file so I don't see the pop ups and all that shit so yeah, my may have to go the slower responses. But

[11:14:41:00 - 11:14:42:07]
Speaker 1
 what's that?

[11:14:44:00 - 11:14:48:14]
Speaker 3
 Check, check, check, testing, testing, speaking into a microphone.

[11:14:50:11 - 11:14:54:12]
Speaker 3
 My current life, I'm sitting here talking into this.

[11:14:54:12 - 11:14:56:16]
Speaker 2
 Check, check, check, one, two, one, two.

[11:14:56:16 - 11:14:58:10]
Speaker 3
 How this sounds good.

[11:14:58:10 - 11:14:59:02]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:15:00:12 - 11:15:01:15]
Speaker 3
 Eric, you sound pretty quiet.

[11:15:05:03 - 11:15:05:12]
Speaker 1
 Let's see.

[11:15:06:17 - 11:15:11:19]
Speaker 1
 Check, check, check, check, check. That's much better.

[11:15:14:05 - 11:15:15:07]
Speaker 2
 What's everybody talking about.

[11:15:15:07 - 11:15:19:08]
Speaker 3
 Oh, first stuff stuff stuff stuff.

[11:15:19:08 - 11:15:23:20]
Speaker 2
 Yes, we're doing the box for Hallmark.

[11:15:23:20 - 11:15:28:15]
Speaker 1
 We're doing the box for the closer the last episode.

[11:15:30:00 - 11:15:31:13]
Speaker 3
 I thought I'm doing black or it says.

[11:15:44:00 - 11:15:46:12]
Speaker 3
 I've seen a lot since we last talked.

[11:15:50:00 - 11:15:51:00]
Speaker 2
 Very strange.

[11:15:54:00 - 11:15:56:05]
Speaker 2
 Oh, there we go.

[11:15:57:08 - 11:16:00:20]
Speaker 2
 Okay, so then for Bob folks first.

[11:16:00:20 - 11:16:06:02]
Speaker 1
 I've got the new toxic Avenger, and I was a teenage.

[11:16:09:00 - 11:16:13:18]
Speaker 3
 I'm going to talk about. Good boy and black phone to

[11:16:19:00 - 11:16:21:11]
Speaker 1
 the super trendy ones here.

[11:16:23:00 - 11:16:24:11]
Speaker 1
 My house.

[11:16:24:11 - 11:16:26:17]
Speaker 2
 Good boy on mine too.

[11:16:26:17 - 11:16:29:11]
Speaker 3
 Oh, shit. Well I can do something else.

[11:16:30:19 - 11:16:36:11]
Speaker 3
 I've seen a lot too so you've seen a lot.

[11:16:36:11 - 11:16:39:16]
Speaker 1
 I've seen so much. But I am curious about.

[11:16:42:00 - 11:16:42:02]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:16:45:00 - 11:16:49:15]
Speaker 3
 Oh, I don't know how I didn't see this. I just saw your message about Monday November.

[11:16:52:16 - 11:16:56:05]
Speaker 1
 I'll let you know.

[11:17:01:00 - 11:17:07:20]
Speaker 3
 I know. It just doesn't pop up any messages anymore and they don't actively open it.

[11:17:10:00 - 11:17:12:16]
Speaker 3
 It's probably won't do.

[11:17:12:16 - 11:17:19:02]
Speaker 1
 Notifications, if it's if somebody like doesn't look hard or something, it half the time.

[11:17:22:00 - 11:17:30:07]
Speaker 3
 I don't know. Did I talk about one battle after an order.

[11:17:31:08 - 11:17:33:03]
Speaker 3
 Okay, how about I do that instead of good boy.

[11:17:34:17 - 11:17:36:07]
Speaker 1
 Screw up your case paper.

[11:17:39:11 - 11:17:42:11]
Speaker 3
 I only went three times the last month.

[11:17:47:00 - 11:17:48:13]
Speaker 1
 You got the big people.

[11:17:52:00 - 11:17:57:12]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, well one battle after another I didn't have any interest in that everybody was like this is the best.

[11:17:59:00 - 11:17:59:15]
Speaker 3
 Well,

[11:18:02:09 - 11:18:05:08]
Speaker 3
 I'm not sure what the best way to do that.

[11:18:05:08 - 11:18:06:06]
Speaker 1
 Yeah,

[11:18:09:00 - 11:18:12:02]
Speaker 1
 I remember I put in the book because I just edited that episode.

[11:18:14:01 - 11:18:20:20]
Speaker 3
 I can't go any further.

[11:18:21:21 - 11:18:23:12]
Speaker 1
 So what what have you got that plugged into.

[11:18:24:14 - 11:18:27:12]
Speaker 1
 There is a yeah there's a big standard hurts.

[11:18:31:00 - 11:18:33:04]
Speaker 3
 It's just a normal headphone jog.

[11:18:33:04 - 11:18:39:22]
Speaker 2
 Okay, I've got a longer that's what I pulled out but it doesn't have it would need to dual ends then.

[11:18:41:01 - 11:18:41:06]
Speaker 2
 Oh,

[11:18:42:07 - 11:18:43:11]
Speaker 2
 because it's got.

[11:18:43:11 - 11:18:46:00]
Speaker 3
 Oh yeah. Female female female.

[11:18:47:00 - 11:18:48:10]
Speaker 3
 Okay, yeah, I need a male female.

[11:18:48:10 - 11:18:50:08]
Speaker 2
 So, and I don't have.

[11:18:52:01 - 11:18:54:05]
Speaker 3
 But I appreciate that.

[11:18:54:05 - 11:18:58:03]
Speaker 2
 I do have a set of brand new over the head headphones and rather go.

[11:18:58:03 - 11:19:02:18]
Speaker 3
 It's a bonus. I don't mess with

[11:19:02:18 - 11:19:03:15]
Speaker 1
 don't mess with him.

[11:19:04:23 - 11:19:06:23]
Speaker 3
 But I super appreciate it.

[11:19:09:08 - 11:19:11:16]
Speaker 3
 I'm going to learn my lesson is what will happen.

[11:19:14:00 - 11:19:14:14]
Speaker 1
 How's that.

[11:19:16:11 - 11:19:18:05]
Speaker 1
 I know.

[11:19:19:17 - 11:19:21:00]
Speaker 3
 Oh,

[11:19:23:00 - 11:19:24:13]
Speaker 3
 I was gonna say,

[11:19:25:17 - 11:19:34:18]
Speaker 3
 I don't want to get too far into the kitchen like it's not but I should give you guys some wine probably from the vineyard because the vineyard probably won't be around.

[11:19:36:00 - 11:19:38:22]
Speaker 2
 It's a hard fucking thing to start.

[11:19:38:22 - 11:19:50:00]
Speaker 3
 Austin's dad up and had a stroke. Oh well that'll harder. Yeah, they were physically like kind of keeping it that tape together by like doing all the work themselves.

[11:19:50:00 - 11:19:52:17]
Speaker 1
 So, came from this.

[11:19:52:17 - 11:20:04:14]
Speaker 3
 It's, it seems like mentally he's okay. He's left inside. I jacked up right now, but he is there he's making really good progress so I just yeah.

[11:20:07:00 - 11:20:10:00]
Speaker 3
 He's probably is.

[11:20:11:11 - 11:20:14:12]
Speaker 2
 No, no, I'm 56.

[11:20:14:12 - 11:20:23:21]
Speaker 3
 Okay, well, they had they were like high school, you know, people. So he would have like 60. Yeah, maybe late 60s.

[11:20:23:21 - 11:20:24:16]
Speaker 2
 Still to me.

[11:20:24:16 - 11:20:29:23]
Speaker 3
 Well my mom's about to turn 80. And my mom's the oldest parent of anyone ever so

[11:20:29:23 - 11:20:32:23]
Speaker 2
 I know but you're older than me.

[11:20:32:23 - 11:20:36:05]
Speaker 3
 In my age range.

[11:20:37:09 - 11:20:49:20]
Speaker 3
 She had me very late, I was a accident so I was, I was unexpected. Yes, I was just not plans. She doesn't want to say accent.

[11:20:51:07 - 11:20:52:16]
Speaker 3
 That's your phrase.

[11:20:54:05 - 11:20:55:14]
Speaker 3
 All right. All right.

[11:21:00:15 - 11:21:06:00]
Speaker 3
 No, just let you guys know that I should get you some wine before it's too late. That's all.

[11:21:06:00 - 11:21:08:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. And

[11:21:08:12 - 11:21:10:22]
Speaker 3
 I don't really said that it's a cool place.

[11:21:12:22 - 11:21:14:22]
Speaker 3
 Talk about good things.

[11:21:14:22 - 11:21:16:10]
Speaker 1
 Maybe we'll see.

[11:21:16:10 - 11:21:21:09]
Speaker 3
 Oh god. Oh yeah that's right I have a story that I'm gonna be talking about. Okay, cool. Yes.

[11:21:24:17 - 11:21:38:04]
Speaker 2
 Welcome to strange eons radio that is Eric over there. And that is Vanessa better. Hello, and I am Kelly you guys normally I started this out by going hey guys I have something I want to talk about. Plus today Vanessa came in hot she was like hey guys, I have something I want.

[11:21:38:04 - 11:22:01:00]
Speaker 3
 Well, it's, it's really funny because I messaged you both like a couple weeks ago, and I was like hey man I had this like experience, and you didn't really respond. And I don't think you understood the gravity of what I was talking about so let me, let me remember this. Exactly. That's how much of an impact it had. So, I went out to.

[11:22:03:00 - 11:22:18:19]
Speaker 3
 Austin and downtown theory and we went to this cool pizza place because we only have a little bit of time was like okay we'll stop in before you have to pick up Dan and cook the baker went there and they had pizza butter slice, so they had cheese and pepperoni and they had a veggie and I was like, you know what, I need some more vegetables.

[11:22:20:00 - 11:22:27:23]
Speaker 3
 I am severely lacking vegetables right now. So I'm getting a lot of my vegetables from pizza.

[11:22:29:00 - 11:22:43:11]
Speaker 3
 And so they have this pizza and it was like mushroom and like jalapeno and something else I was like, I don't know, they're trying some fancy thing. And so I'm eating this slice I'm like it's okay I'm not like a huge mushroom person so it's like, that's fine.

[11:22:45:00 - 11:23:06:11]
Speaker 3
 And then we start walking back to the car and I'm like, Oh, I don't feel great but that's, I'm lactose intolerant and I shouldn't be eating pizza. So I was like, This is on me, it's gonna be fine, whatever. I started driving to the school to her daycare and I'm like, not okay. Like my stomach feels like it is just squeezing.

[11:23:08:00 - 11:23:31:12]
Speaker 3
 And I'm like, okay, this is rougher than I expected. Get her in the car, start driving back to the house, it is like two minute drive back to my house. I am like, hitting the gas, I am sweating. I'm like, feeling like shaking. I get in the house and I'm just like, I have to, I either I have to get this stuff out of me in any way possible.

[11:23:33:00 - 11:23:50:13]
Speaker 3
 I'm like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I just, it's not working. And I know jokes spend the next hour, losing consciousness, unable to breathe. At one point, because I ran into the bathroom, I knew Austin would eventually check on me.

[11:23:52:00 - 11:23:55:09]
Speaker 3
 And I just was like, but I kept like not being able to talk or like yell.

[11:23:56:12 - 11:24:03:03]
Speaker 3
 So, um, yeah, it was bad. So he finally came in and he's like, Oh, well, like I'll leave you and I was like, you have to call 911.

[11:24:05:00 - 11:24:55:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, so he called 911, paramedics arrived by the time they got there I had taken some venetrol. So I was, I was good enough. But they were like, well, do you want to go to the hospital and I was like, well, if I don't have to, I don't want to. If I, and I was like, can I just sleep? Is that okay? And they're like, yes, you can sleep. I was like, okay. So I was not about to die when they got there. But, so, these were chanterelle mushrooms, I know because Austin called the restaurant, found out exactly what was on this fucking piece of pizza. And it was the only thing I ate, it was an immediate reaction to it. And so either I'm extremely allergic to chanterelle or it is easily mistaken for two other mushrooms, and they were serving toxic mushrooms that day.

[11:24:56:00 - 11:24:56:16]
Speaker 3
 We'll see.

[11:24:56:16 - 11:25:06:19]
Speaker 1
 I would guess probably, because I think that would have made like noons if, unless you're the only one that ordered that pizza.

[11:25:06:19 - 11:25:26:18]
Speaker 3
 I guess the thing is like maybe they just made a one off pizza or people were like embarrassed and, you know, didn't want to call up because they thought they were just having their own reaction. I mean, the thing that was weird was at one point my hand curled and I couldn't uncurl it, and I had to like uncurl one finger at a time. Yeah, so that's like more of a toxic.

[11:25:28:00 - 11:25:41:02]
Speaker 3
 So, and it wasn't puffing, like I didn't puff out, but yeah so that's where I'm like, so I'm gonna get tested and then I'll know for sure. And if it was that they had toxic mushrooms, I will never go back to that place.

[11:25:43:04 - 11:25:54:17]
Speaker 2
 Wow, I mean, the other thing though is toxicity in your body usually is like your body reacts. I'm getting this out one end or the other this is all coming out but it wasn't coming out for you.

[11:25:54:17 - 11:26:25:17]
Speaker 3
 It was a huge struggle to make anything happen in any way, shape or form. So I don't want to get into the details but eventually I was able to do enough but it was awful because I was like, I have to get this out. Like you can mentally I knew instinctually that if I didn't get this out I was going to fucking die. So, you know, that's an exaggeration because I survived. Well you felt that way though. Yeah, and it was weird to me because usually, you know, you can anybody.

[11:26:27:00 - 11:26:27:19]
Speaker 3
 No,

[11:26:29:05 - 11:26:29:23]
Speaker 3
 absolutely not.

[11:26:31:00 - 11:26:35:13]
Speaker 1
 Very curious now what you've sent us it's like, oh I had a mushroom and I didn't feel real good.

[11:26:35:13 - 11:26:39:21]
Speaker 3
 I think that's a message that was like a mushroom to have to kill me.

[11:26:40:22 - 11:26:45:12]
Speaker 3
 Or like I was saying, like I had some pizza that nearly killed me or something.

[11:26:46:12 - 11:26:48:14]
Speaker 3
 But he didn't react to I was like, we'll talk later.

[11:26:50:08 - 11:26:51:06]
Speaker 2
 I will say this.

[11:26:52:18 - 11:26:53:21]
Speaker 2
 It's always the husband.

[11:26:56:09 - 11:26:58:00]
Speaker 3
 You think he likes to bring those up in.

[11:26:59:11 - 11:27:03:23]
Speaker 2
 Check out. Yeah, it's always seen enough of the time shows.

[11:27:03:23 - 11:27:15:21]
Speaker 3
 You know what, I would say that there's something to it potentially, not because of, you know, because you never know, but I'm like the, I earned the most money in the house. I don't know I'm pretty good.

[11:27:15:21 - 11:27:19:20]
Speaker 2
 I'm

[11:27:19:20 - 11:27:26:04]
Speaker 3
 completely screwed if I don't even have a retirement like it's gonna be that one.

[11:27:26:04 - 11:27:29:10]
Speaker 1
 Sorry.

[11:27:32:00 - 11:27:33:16]
Speaker 2
 Well, good times.

[11:27:33:16 - 11:27:34:15]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, yeah.

[11:27:36:05 - 11:27:41:12]
Speaker 2
 Something we learned today is Vanessa who loves pizza is lactose intolerant.

[11:27:41:12 - 11:27:46:12]
Speaker 3
 I don't even I know it's so bad. I'm lactose intolerant. I'm like slightly allergic to wheat.

[11:27:48:05 - 11:27:50:10]
Speaker 3
 Very slightly. Well, it'll be a little.

[11:27:51:12 - 11:27:53:23]
Speaker 2
 And now wheat in that cross.

[11:27:53:23 - 11:27:55:14]
Speaker 3
 That's the unfortunate part.

[11:27:57:00 - 11:28:08:09]
Speaker 3
 I have reduced my pizza intake significantly but it's really hard because I my identity identity is so tied up and pizza. So to like break away from it.

[11:28:08:09 - 11:28:09:10]
Speaker 1
 Costuming.

[11:28:09:10 - 11:28:11:17]
Speaker 3
 My license plate.

[11:28:14:00 - 11:28:14:22]
Speaker 3
 Identifies his pizza

[11:28:14:22 - 11:28:16:21]
Speaker 1
 license plate.

[11:28:16:21 - 11:28:21:02]
Speaker 3
 I'm gonna have to switch. I have to get into tacos or something.

[11:28:22:19 - 11:28:23:17]
Speaker 1
 Well, I guess he

[11:28:23:17 - 11:28:30:11]
Speaker 3
 get burnt taco. Don't need to put cheese in it.

[11:28:32:00 - 11:28:36:10]
Speaker 2
 In the opening notes on the screen. I'm just gonna write the message.

[11:28:36:10 - 11:28:46:17]
Speaker 3
 It's okay. Austin doesn't listen to the show. So I'll never know.

[11:28:48:00 - 11:28:50:08]
Speaker 2
 Guys I saw some movies.

[11:28:50:08 - 11:28:51:03]
Speaker 3
 All right.

[11:28:51:03 - 11:28:56:09]
Speaker 2
 I saw some movies people are talking about and Vanessa I know you saw one of them so let's talk about good boy.

[11:28:58:00 - 11:29:26:00]
Speaker 2
 So I saw this movie and this has been talked about like it is the greatest people love this movie. It is a technological marvel. I will give it that it is the right length for a movie of this kind which is 76 months or something like that. It is a horror movie all told from point of view of dog, which means that there's not a camera angle that's higher than 18 inches.

[11:29:27:17 - 11:29:30:19]
Speaker 2
 There's a lot of really neat stuff in this movie.

[11:29:33:10 - 11:29:53:17]
Speaker 2
 I like it. But mostly I liked it because I kept looking at the dog going. Dogs face he is so worried. But then at the very end you see him after everything's done and this dog just has an expression like if you have this dog you'd be like I gotta put this dog in a movie where he's worried all the time. Yes, looks worried. Exactly what filmmaker did.

[11:29:55:01 - 11:30:01:08]
Speaker 2
 So, I thought it was quite good. Not exactly the masterpiece that everyone's telling me.

[11:30:01:08 - 11:30:25:12]
Speaker 3
 You know what, I didn't really care for it. I mean, I will say that it had a really cool concept, but it kept missing out on the opportunities to do more with that concept and I felt like there were some really confusing plot elements where it wasn't super clear who or what the antagonist was.

[11:30:25:12 - 11:30:30:15]
Speaker 2
 I think that was on purpose, because it was supposed to be the dog's point of view.

[11:30:30:15 - 11:30:34:18]
Speaker 3
 But shouldn't we eventually kind of know.

[11:30:34:18 - 11:30:36:04]
Speaker 2
 I think we kind of know.

[11:30:36:04 - 11:30:38:16]
Speaker 3
 Do we? Because it was like,

[11:30:38:16 - 11:30:40:10]
Speaker 2
 I

[11:30:40:10 - 11:31:00:04]
Speaker 3
 feel like the thing I know what I think they wanted me to come away with, but the way they presented it. It felt like there were like three distinctly completely different creatures physically like one more of an apparatus, one more of a physical muck monster.

[11:31:01:13 - 11:31:09:02]
Speaker 3
 Another like it just felt like very, I don't know, I spent a lot of the movie analyzing the movie, which isn't what I wanted.

[11:31:09:02 - 11:31:09:23]
Speaker 1
 Probably not a good sign.

[11:31:09:23 - 11:31:37:11]
Speaker 3
 Not a good sign, but I do like you. I think that it's a technological marvel, like the fact they got this dog to do what they did. They spent so much time filming this. They had to get the owner, obviously, slash director to be this co-star. So the dog is going to react appropriately and luckily he pulled his weight in it. But yeah, it was it was okay. It was okay. I didn't hate it. I just didn't think it was as good as everybody's saying it is.

[11:31:37:11 - 11:31:45:13]
Speaker 2
 It's also we're out of COVID long enough that it's hard to kind of remember people were making COVID movies and that's what this was.

[11:31:45:13 - 11:31:47:09]
Speaker 3
 It does feel like a COVID.

[11:31:47:09 - 11:32:18:06]
Speaker 2
 It took a lot of time to come up. Because they didn't have actors that could really act. So all the time was spent on getting the right shot at the dog. And the dog is great. I'm not sure the dog needs an Academy Award or nothing like that. I do think that the filmmakers should be singled out as, you know, boy, this was an accomplishment, whether you like the movie or not. He made a pretty solid flick and with a legitimate animal lead.

[11:32:20:00 - 11:32:24:21]
Speaker 1
 And he's mentioned that right off the beginning. I immediately thought of that film that was all shot underwater.

[11:32:26:02 - 11:32:31:04]
Speaker 1
 That was technically really amazing. But it exactly wasn't very

[11:32:31:04 - 11:32:37:12]
Speaker 2
 memorable as a movie. Are you talking about the one the house, the haunted house? Then fuck you.

[11:32:41:00 - 11:32:46:17]
Speaker 1
 We don't go back and find your audio next. I don't think you reacted that intensely the first time. It's good.

[11:32:46:17 - 11:32:50:16]
Speaker 2
 I put it on my top five for the year. I remember that. It's both stunned.

[11:32:52:04 - 11:32:53:05]
Speaker 2
 That could be what he was.

[11:32:55:02 - 11:32:58:19]
Speaker 3
 I mean, yeah, I remember that movie being like, wow, but also.

[11:33:00:00 - 11:33:01:16]
Speaker 1
 I mean, technologically, it's for his filmmaking.

[11:33:01:16 - 11:33:02:23]
Speaker 3
 Yes, exactly.

[11:33:02:23 - 11:33:05:09]
Speaker 2
 This isn't as impressive as that.

[11:33:06:10 - 11:33:08:13]
Speaker 2
 Except for the fact that. Yes.

[11:33:10:07 - 11:33:21:14]
Speaker 2
 There's there is a lot of good, I think, on purpose. You're left to wonder, did any of this happen as a horror movie or is this all just what a dog's anxiety is?

[11:33:21:14 - 11:33:41:16]
Speaker 3
 It just feels like one of those things where, like I said, it has such a good concept, but it feels so first time filmmaker in its execution that you feel like there's just these missed moments where it could have really, really gone there. But, you know, it's.

[11:33:41:16 - 11:33:46:00]
Speaker 2
 Didn't I see that, like, already this guy's second films out.

[11:33:46:00 - 11:33:46:15]
Speaker 4
 Really?

[11:33:46:15 - 11:33:51:13]
Speaker 2
 I saw something that said from the director of Good Boy. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry.

[11:33:51:13 - 11:33:53:00]
Speaker 3
 I don't know that.

[11:33:53:00 - 11:33:59:03]
Speaker 2
 So I imagine this took a lot of editing. So it was editing or was editing.

[11:33:59:03 - 11:34:04:00]
Speaker 3
 It was probably it was. It seems like a mom and pop.

[11:34:04:00 - 11:34:06:04]
Speaker 2
 She really does. Yeah. Because I know his wife was.

[11:34:06:04 - 11:34:06:23]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[11:34:06:23 - 11:34:08:08]
Speaker 2
 And

[11:34:08:08 - 11:34:14:19]
Speaker 3
 I think it's kind of neat that the end of the film is just a couple of minutes with them talking about how they made the film.

[11:34:14:19 - 11:34:17:04]
Speaker 1
 I think that really Adam's family ask.

[11:34:17:04 - 11:34:18:02]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[11:34:20:00 - 11:34:22:08]
Speaker 2
 It's called Good Boy and it is available as a rental.

[11:34:22:08 - 11:34:28:16]
Speaker 3
 Well, I saw a much larger budget from I think Blackfone 2.

[11:34:30:00 - 11:34:32:07]
Speaker 1
 I think

[11:34:32:07 - 11:34:52:21]
Speaker 3
 so. It felt like it. I really liked the first one. I loved the first one. I love the first one. I mean, because it had that Stephen King-esque feel to it. And I hate saying that for you guys because you read significantly more. You know, a lot of your kidneys. I am not. So.

[11:34:52:21 - 11:34:53:12]
Speaker 2
 Yes.

[11:34:53:12 - 11:34:53:23]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. It was now the living in body.

[11:34:53:23 - 11:34:58:16]
Speaker 1
 But look off his dad.

[11:35:00:06 - 11:35:02:11]
Speaker 1
 He grew a beard. He's got similar glasses.

[11:35:02:11 - 11:35:09:15]
Speaker 2
 I was getting a little weird. He's sucking the soul out of his mouth. That's fine.

[11:35:09:15 - 11:35:10:12]
Speaker 3
 That's fine.

[11:35:11:14 - 11:35:16:23]
Speaker 3
 You know, it felt a little bit less kink and a little bit more like it's got more Freddy Krueger.

[11:35:18:00 - 11:35:31:09]
Speaker 3
 It's got more Freddy Krueger. It's it's it's it's in on a lot of other horror films. But I don't think that's a bad thing. It doesn't feel like it's copy and pasting. It just feels like it's utilizing them as tools.

[11:35:32:20 - 11:35:36:10]
Speaker 3
 It I don't know. It has some kind of stranger things feel to it as well.

[11:35:36:10 - 11:35:41:15]
Speaker 2
 Is it the same lead boy? OK. So it's all in the same setup.

[11:35:41:15 - 11:36:06:13]
Speaker 3
 And his sister is a little bit more of the star of this one, which might be good because she's a much better actor than him, which sucks because he was so good in the first one. But in this one, it's maybe they just didn't get the character enough to do. But he's kind of like, yeah, the world sucks. And you're just like, OK, it's just one note of that through.

[11:36:09:02 - 11:36:37:23]
Speaker 3
 The bad guy coming back the way he does is really interesting. I don't know. I thought it was visually really, really cool. Like I just I don't know. Not not everyone's going to love this. It does have a different feel to it than the first one. But I think it works in a lot of ways. There's like one or two scenes of exposition that I could have done with that, though, where I'm like, why are we standing here like having this big conversation about stupid stuff and then emotionally not getting where we need to. But for something we did. But thanks, guys. Glad you stapled that one in to make this film work.

[11:36:39:00 - 11:36:42:08]
Speaker 3
 But the rest of it gets pretty cool.

[11:36:42:08 - 11:37:12:10]
Speaker 2
 I did hear an interview with Joe Hill where he was saying like just before the first movie came out and the director reached out to him and said, Holy cow. The studio loves this. They're already talking about a sequel and he was laughing about it because the guy dies at the end. And Joe was like, yeah, well, and then he said he woke up in the middle of the night. He goes, you know, there is one part in this movie that is a back door to a sequel if you wanted to try it. So he came up with the idea and gave it to him. They ran with it.

[11:37:12:10 - 11:37:37:00]
Speaker 3
 That's interesting. And it's crazy, too, because this one also feels like are they going to try to do like a Freddy Krueger thing where he keeps coming back and coming back and coming back. But like I don't know how like I didn't see how they would do it the first time. I really don't see how they do it the second time. But we'll see. We'll see. It feels like that's what they're in for. I bet we're going to end up with a black phone three.

[11:37:37:00 - 11:37:51:01]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Can you imagine a film made from a Stephen King IP that then got a sequel that did good enough to turn it into a successful franchise? Because we've got a lot of King franchises. Yeah. Yeah. That are shares.

[11:37:52:09 - 11:37:52:18]
Speaker 4
 No.

[11:37:52:18 - 11:37:59:23]
Speaker 2
 Speaking of which, we are recording this on a gloomy October day of the night that welcome to Derry premieres.

[11:37:59:23 - 11:38:13:19]
Speaker 3
 Why did it have to come out so late in fucking October? I spent the last two weeks every day going, is welcome to Derry out today? Oh, shit. No. OK. Couple days later. Welcome to Derry out today. I would like to watch it. It is a spooky season.

[11:38:13:19 - 11:38:14:08]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:38:14:08 - 11:38:18:20]
Speaker 3
 No, I have to wait until frickin the 27th of October.

[11:38:18:20 - 11:38:19:18]
Speaker 2
 For hell.

[11:38:19:18 - 11:38:23:08]
Speaker 1
 And Flanagan just wrapped on Carrie.

[11:38:23:08 - 11:38:24:09]
Speaker 4
 Why?

[11:38:24:09 - 11:38:33:10]
Speaker 1
 He's not. And I carry miniseries. I know. I know. Because I was a

[11:38:33:10 - 11:38:37:07]
Speaker 2
 lot less remakes and a lot more adaptations of stuff we haven't seen.

[11:38:37:07 - 11:38:40:23]
Speaker 1
 Some stuff he's done. Come on, man.

[11:38:42:00 - 11:38:52:23]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, I had barely heard he's doing this a few weeks ago. What the hell is Mike Flanagan? He used to have something out like every two weeks and seen. But apparently he's wrapped on her.

[11:38:52:23 - 11:38:54:01]
Speaker 2
 Anyway,

[11:38:55:14 - 11:38:58:00]
Speaker 2
 that was black phone to spill out. Yes.

[11:38:59:07 - 11:39:08:03]
Speaker 1
 And then addition into the world of how the hell is this movie as good as it is. I can give you 20, 25, the toxic adventure.

[11:39:08:03 - 11:39:14:03]
Speaker 3
 Oh, goodness. Okay. I want to hear. I saw that. Fantastic. Yeah.

[11:39:14:03 - 11:39:17:11]
Speaker 1
 Have you seen a lot of the other toxic adventure?

[11:39:17:11 - 11:39:23:02]
Speaker 3
 I've seen nothing at all about toxic venture in any way, shape or form, aside from a poster.

[11:39:23:02 - 11:39:24:21]
Speaker 1
 That will probably explain a lot.

[11:39:24:21 - 11:39:33:00]
Speaker 3
 I was the absolute worst person in the world to get to have a sneak peek of this movie. Like what? Two years before it came out. So yes.

[11:39:34:07 - 11:39:37:16]
Speaker 1
 Well, as someone who's seen, I think all of the toxic venture movies.

[11:39:38:22 - 11:39:53:06]
Speaker 1
 This is the best. So low bar. Yeah. I did like citizen toxic quite a bit more than I expect. But part of it is got Peter Dinklage and Kevin Bacon.

[11:39:54:08 - 11:39:57:22]
Speaker 1
 And as your man antagonist, Lloyd Kaufman, didn't direct it.

[11:39:59:07 - 11:40:03:07]
Speaker 1
 Sorry, Lord Kaufman fanatics, but he had his ties.

[11:40:04:21 - 11:40:10:19]
Speaker 1
 But I think it's very good. He chose not to direct this. Although of course he makes his parents, he doesn't direct it. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. Of course he makes his parents. He doesn't stand Lee.

[11:40:11:20 - 11:40:12:14]
Speaker 1
 Parents in it.

[11:40:14:12 - 11:40:16:15]
Speaker 1
 And did you stay through the credits?

[11:40:17:17 - 11:40:18:11]
Speaker 3
 I had to.

[11:40:18:11 - 11:40:19:09]
Speaker 1
 Okay.

[11:40:21:00 - 11:40:26:06]
Speaker 1
 You know, he gave us a very good direction on how to make a grilled cheese sandwich.

[11:40:31:00 - 11:40:40:05]
Speaker 1
 Now you want to butter the toast before you put it in there. I use American cheese, but Jenner is also definitely great.

[11:40:41:07 - 11:41:00:11]
Speaker 1
 And Mayo, which I added and found absolutely no difference. I'm not sure why. This is a great idea. But. Yeah, I enjoyed it. It's got the ridiculous, ridiculous violence. You should have. And I think a lot of it is just Peter dinklage. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm not sure if you're going to say it's not a good idea. But I think it's a good idea. And I think a lot of it is just Peter dinklage.

[11:41:00:11 - 11:41:01:05]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:41:01:05 - 11:41:01:19]
Speaker 1
 Just.

[11:41:01:19 - 11:41:14:04]
Speaker 3
 Peter dinklage is. He did amazing job. I remember that. At least about it. Like he, he was really awesome. But I think it's so cool to see any time him. Getting to like stretch his acting wings.

[11:41:14:04 - 11:41:15:02]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:41:15:02 - 11:41:19:08]
Speaker 3
 In weird directions. Which is awesome. So. Yeah.

[11:41:19:08 - 11:41:24:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. I mean, there's. Yeah. This is a film that I wasn't sure needed to be remade.

[11:41:26:00 - 11:41:36:14]
Speaker 2
 I was like, Oh, this is a good. This is a good film. I was like, Oh, I'm going to watch it in a more realistic manner. I'm just watching. Toxic measure. Second time. Last year. I was like, Oh, this original. It's pretty good.

[11:41:36:14 - 11:41:37:00]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:41:37:00 - 11:41:41:04]
Speaker 2
 It's not a bad. A lot of the other. Trauma films.

[11:41:41:04 - 11:41:41:14]
Speaker 4
 Oh, yeah.

[11:41:41:14 - 11:41:51:11]
Speaker 2
 And then watching this. I was like, okay, well, the acting is way better. The effects are way better. Everything is way better than this, but I wasn't sure that I liked it. More than original.

[11:41:54:00 - 11:42:02:08]
Speaker 2
 And I was like, Oh, I'm going to watch it in a more realistic manner. And also I would like to see Peter Dinklage in better movies. Just like, you know, This take away a good period. He spent time on.

[11:42:02:08 - 11:42:12:13]
Speaker 3
 He rolls. He's getting offered. Cause right now he's in that Channing Tatum movie. It's just like a boss. Yeah. Toys are us. So I don't, I don't know if he's getting the roles.

[11:42:12:13 - 11:42:18:05]
Speaker 1
 Station. The station agent. Yeah. Yeah. She goes. If you want to Peter Dinklage,

[11:42:22:00 - 11:42:22:00]
Speaker 1
 I'm going to do a.

[11:42:22:00 - 11:42:27:12]
Speaker 3
 I'm going to do a. I'm going to do a. What's the other one? The death in the. Family or something. That is.

[11:42:27:12 - 11:42:37:01]
Speaker 1
 I saw a station. Shortly after. So no idea who this guy was. Jesus. Who is this? Yeah.

[11:42:38:15 - 11:42:43:23]
Speaker 2
 Dinklage. I remember who directed this, but I was surprised. At the person. Yeah, that's right. Who has directed some other. Bigger.

[11:42:50:12 - 11:42:56:20]
Speaker 2
 And I was like, why did he take this? And then what was the point of shelving it?

[11:42:56:20 - 11:43:06:23]
Speaker 3
 That I don't understand. Like the rigmarole was because it felt like it was just about to. Straight up go to theaters when this. Yeah. Fantastic. And then it just disappeared. Yeah. They had to do a campaign to get it on earth. So I don't, I don't fully know the story. Another one of the weird.

[11:43:08:00 - 11:43:13:12]
Speaker 3
 Text

[11:43:13:12 - 11:43:17:04]
Speaker 1
 things by studio or something. I don't know.

[11:43:17:04 - 11:43:21:09]
Speaker 3
 Right. Yeah. Well, if whenever our listeners know, please leave us a voicemail.

[11:43:21:09 - 11:43:23:02]
Speaker 1
 I mean, they do that. Yeah.

[11:43:23:02 - 11:43:27:01]
Speaker 3
 By calling two, five, three, two, three, seven, four, two, six, six.

[11:43:27:01 - 11:43:42:01]
Speaker 1
 Don't worry. We're not ending the show. No, we're not. You're, you're right though. And that the first one. Is. Superior in that it is. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior. It is superior in that it is just such a. It's such a unique film. It's such a lot of creation.

[11:43:42:01 - 11:44:01:21]
Speaker 2
 It's such a goofy premise. That suddenly putting serious actors into it. I was kind of like, This works as well for me. Watching the original. I mean, the acting is awful. It's over the top. Yeah. But I think that was the point of the. The nerd was like the nerdiest nerd who had ever. No kidding. But you know, but to

[11:44:01:21 - 11:44:09:11]
Speaker 1
 toy lines and Saturday morning cartoons. Wow. This crazy stuff. Like how the hell did this movie.

[11:44:11:10 - 11:44:13:09]
Speaker 3
 The eighties was a wild time, man.

[11:44:13:09 - 11:44:19:05]
Speaker 2
 Curious to see what the fans of the franchise. Think of this. Yeah.

[11:44:19:05 - 11:44:24:23]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. I've seen all of them, but I definitely don't. It's doesn't. Like as a. Physical media collector. I don't think I own a deal. Yeah. Yeah.

[11:44:24:23 - 11:44:24:23]
Speaker 2
 Well,

[11:44:28:13 - 11:44:38:06]
Speaker 2
 the Toronto is like the first cinematic universe we got. Yeah, that's true. Subject. The boogeyman and all this character. You're right. We move each other.

[11:44:39:20 - 11:44:41:16]
Speaker 2
 I saw something.

[11:44:42:20 - 11:45:01:05]
Speaker 2
 That I'm going to recommend softly. It is called beast of war. And that is about a group of soldiers. Who. Are on a. During world war two. They're on a. Both as bond. And then they are floating around and there is a. What appears to be a serial killer shark.

[11:45:02:10 - 11:45:06:00]
Speaker 2
 Who. Just one single shark. Who never gets full.

[11:45:07:05 - 11:45:10:17]
Speaker 2
 And it's also very sneaky. And roars when he attacks.

[11:45:10:17 - 11:45:12:09]
Speaker 3
 Yes. Excellent.

[11:45:12:09 - 11:45:34:17]
Speaker 2
 The movie is kind of dumb, but really effective. The acting is really good. And it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. It's not. But really effective. The acting is really good. And. The shark, when you see it as a, it's a physical effect. And it looks like, you know, the shark possessed by a demon. You know, it's all scarred up at every day. It's just the scariest. Shark ever. And.

[11:45:45:00 - 11:45:50:18]
Speaker 2
 It's kind of stupid. Sure. Yeah. Because it's all takes place over a night. And I'm like, this is one hungry shark.

[11:45:52:10 - 11:45:53:20]
Speaker 2
 And no other sharks in the neighborhood.

[11:45:56:01 - 11:45:59:17]
Speaker 2
 But. I found like the beast of war at first. I thought it was going to be kind of a.

[11:46:00:20 - 11:46:06:17]
Speaker 2
 USS Indianapolis type tale, but it's a, it takes place in somewhere off of the Australian coast.

[11:46:09:00 - 11:46:13:16]
Speaker 2
 And, and it's got all the stuff that you would expect that it starts off in a, almost like a.

[11:46:15:06 - 11:46:40:12]
Speaker 2
 A training montage of all these soldiers. And as they're getting to know each other, you're like, oh, that guy's asshole. He's going to cause a problem later. And this guy is the hero and all of this stuff. And then that all. You know, meshes very well when they're fighting for their lives against the sharks and stuff like that. Well, a couple of neat little twists in the middle of it. So. Yeah. And I'll give it a hard recommend. Yeah. When I'm thinking about it more, I like it.

[11:46:40:12 - 11:46:49:22]
Speaker 3
 I was going to say. The shark. The genre. The bar is very low. So having anything that's watchable is great.

[11:46:49:22 - 11:46:59:09]
Speaker 2
 I would say having said that I would say, you know, you've got your jaws and your deep blue sea. And then I give it maybe to like the shallows or something like that.

[11:47:03:00 - 11:47:03:09]
Speaker 2
 And then what I do. I can't hear you. I can't hear you. No, that's.

[11:47:03:09 - 11:47:09:17]
Speaker 3
 But like the shark natives and stuff like that. Any CGI shark.

[11:47:09:17 - 11:47:14:18]
Speaker 2
 Even with the roaring shark. I chappo. Wow.

[11:47:16:02 - 11:47:17:21]
Speaker 2
 Okay. But he comes out with water. He's like.

[11:47:19:06 - 11:47:25:18]
Speaker 3
 I'm sure movies where they just come out and go. Like silently. How they're about to open and then go back.

[11:47:25:18 - 11:47:27:14]
Speaker 2
 They need a bigger book.

[11:47:33:07 - 11:47:35:10]
Speaker 2
 And Beast of War.

[11:47:35:10 - 11:47:49:13]
Speaker 3
 Well, I heard so much about a movie. I had to go check it out, which was One Battle After Another. It's the new Paul Thomas Anderson film with Leonardo DiCaprio, Viviciel del Toro.

[11:47:51:02 - 11:48:44:08]
Speaker 3
 It is really good. And it is really complex. So I can see why the trailer is really weird. And it's extremely hard to talk about because there are a lot of themes in it. And I think he successfully tackles a conversation with those themes. So there's a lot going on about family and fatherhood. There's a lot going on about revolutions and failed revolutions and failed attempts versus successful ones versus what is important in our lives. There's a lot going in thematically. But mostly you have Leonardo DiCaprio running around like a burned out. He's very high, very high, burned out revolutionary guy in his bathrobe trying to find his kidnapped daughter, which is what you see in the trailer,

[11:48:45:16 - 11:49:00:01]
Speaker 3
 and failing over and over. He's always like two to three steps behind everybody else. So it's this mix of like very tense, very strong filmmaking conversation with this total goofy,

[11:49:01:03 - 11:49:12:05]
Speaker 3
 like has been rolling from scene to scene kind of catching up with the plot. And it worked really well. It has one of the best chase scenes I've seen in a long time as well.

[11:49:12:05 - 11:49:18:17]
Speaker 1
 I saw the scene. I don't know if I've seen the trailer, but I did see a clip of him, like I think at a dojo.

[11:49:18:17 - 11:49:19:09]
Speaker 3
 Yes.

[11:49:19:09 - 11:49:21:09]
Speaker 1
 I was like, this looks promising.

[11:49:21:09 - 11:49:36:12]
Speaker 3
 It's very. And weirdly, the person who steals the whole thing is Benicio del Toro. Like he is so good in this. Like he just nails this role, commits to a fully--

[11:49:37:19 - 11:49:47:00]
Speaker 3
 he doesn't say a lot, and that makes everything he does like 10 times stronger. And it's just such a good film. Definitely, definitely recommend it.

[11:49:48:01 - 11:50:02:16]
Speaker 3
 I want to-- I think it's good to see it in theater, but you don't necessarily have to. I don't think this-- it's not like, oh, I need to see it because it's a Marvel cinematic explosion. It is visually gorgeous, but you don't-- I think you can see it at home just fine.

[11:50:02:16 - 11:50:05:17]
Speaker 2
 Questions. Is it a period piece?

[11:50:07:07 - 11:50:14:16]
Speaker 3
 No, it takes place now, but it does have the setup previously.

[11:50:14:16 - 11:50:20:09]
Speaker 2
 And then it looks from the trailer like there's a bunch of comedic moments in it.

[11:50:20:09 - 11:50:28:22]
Speaker 3
 There is a lot of comedy, but it also has a lot of very serious moments too. So it's very well balanced.

[11:50:30:08 - 11:50:36:09]
Speaker 3
 I think that it does that job of relieving the tension with comedy very well.

[11:50:36:09 - 11:50:39:18]
Speaker 2
 Final question. Why is it bombing so badly?

[11:50:39:18 - 11:50:40:15]
Speaker 3
 Is it bombing?

[11:50:40:15 - 11:50:44:03]
Speaker 2
 It's going to lose $110 million.

[11:50:44:03 - 11:50:47:12]
Speaker 3
 Probably because they hired very expensive talent.

[11:50:47:12 - 11:50:49:20]
Speaker 2
 I mean, I don't-- Nobody's going to see it.

[11:50:49:20 - 11:50:54:20]
Speaker 3
 I feel like they were seeing it. Oh. There's a lot.

[11:50:54:20 - 11:51:08:11]
Speaker 1
 I don't know what's going on in different places, but when I went to see The Long Walk, it was a 11 AM screening or something like that. And that was showing in another theater. I'm like, where the hell are all these people going? And they were all going to see that.

[11:51:08:11 - 11:51:23:10]
Speaker 2
 Well, OK. One theater doesn't explain why it's-- it's open like fourth or something. I don't remember hearing anything about that. That's why I was asking. Is it the trailer that is turning people off? Why is it not turning in?

[11:51:23:10 - 11:51:35:06]
Speaker 3
 That was exactly what I was going to say. If we're looking just from a marketing standpoint, the trailer is a mess. I didn't want to see it based off of the trailer. I was like, this looks like-- I don't know. I don't care about whatever is happening in this film.

[11:51:36:06 - 11:51:48:08]
Speaker 3
 But it's not very well representative of the film, because it's just really missing a lot of the heart. And the other thing is, yeah, it's got Leo, but he's not attractive in this.

[11:51:48:08 - 11:51:59:23]
Speaker 2
 I mean, I saw the trailer. I was like, oh, this looks fun. And then I saw the reviews were like best movie of the year. And I was like, OK, I better go see this. But it's not translating to anybody else saying I better go see this.

[11:51:59:23 - 11:52:09:05]
Speaker 3
 That's weird. I mean, I think it's just my social feeds are just filled with people talking about how awesome it is. So I don't know. That's really interesting, because I had not heard that.

[11:52:09:05 - 11:52:16:07]
Speaker 1
 If it could be the markings, I don't remember hearing anything about it until it opened. Oh, really? And then it's like, oh, OK.

[11:52:16:07 - 11:52:20:01]
Speaker 2
 And then when I saw that first trailer, it was like the weekend it was opening.

[11:52:20:01 - 11:52:36:16]
Speaker 3
 Oh, crazy. Yeah, I mean, I've seen a lot of trailers, but then again, like every day on YouTube, I go like new trailers and then I. Sure. You know, then I see them whenever I go to the movies. So it was it was pretty heavily marketed in the theater, but maybe it just wasn't reaching out. Plus, I mean, it's not.

[11:52:38:04 - 11:52:41:14]
Speaker 3
 It's a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. It's not like that. It's Paul Thomas Anderson.

[11:52:41:14 - 11:52:45:10]
Speaker 1
 And it's also this isn't an elevator pitch sounding film.

[11:52:45:10 - 11:52:45:15]
Speaker 4
 No.

[11:52:45:15 - 11:52:48:00]
Speaker 3
 You know, I explained this in one set.

[11:52:48:00 - 11:52:55:18]
Speaker 1
 So he must say with the long walkies. Easy. Yeah. You want to say what the black phone is. It's this one, like even from the stuff I read.

[11:52:57:04 - 11:53:20:02]
Speaker 3
 So in apparently he's been working on this since Boogie Nights. Like he was originally. Yeah, he was trying to get Leo in it like around then and just has taken him so long to get this film out. So there's a lot of time and energy put into it. The finished product, I think, really shows up. But yeah, I agree. I think that it just doesn't.

[11:53:20:02 - 11:53:25:04]
Speaker 1
 I do know a particular person at some point. Just I will be nice.

[11:53:26:14 - 11:53:27:00]
Speaker 1
 Go on again.

[11:53:27:00 - 11:53:32:21]
Speaker 2
 Well, I saw Spielberg came out and said, you know, this is the best movie I've seen. Twenty five years. And it's like.

[11:53:37:19 - 11:53:39:20]
Speaker 3
 Is she going to let every single Spielberg talk?

[11:53:41:07 - 11:53:42:01]
Speaker 3
 Because I'd like to know.

[11:53:43:06 - 11:53:51:12]
Speaker 2
 And so when you get Spielberg to come out and say something like that, I was like, oh, something's going on. They're not getting the numbers in need.

[11:53:51:12 - 11:53:53:03]
Speaker 1
 Oh, interesting. Good point.

[11:53:54:08 - 11:53:56:13]
Speaker 1
 Kind of like Stephen King does that a lot. Yeah.

[11:53:57:18 - 11:53:59:22]
Speaker 1
 So I saw one that nobody was talking about in that right.

[11:54:01:05 - 11:54:04:01]
Speaker 1
 1957's. I was a teenage werewolf boy.

[11:54:05:01 - 11:54:20:09]
Speaker 1
 Michael Landon. That's right. Who I took for effort to figure out who it was because he doesn't look. Yeah. He sounds like his voice. What the hell is that? So finally look up. Oh, geez. OK, so yeah, it starts a very young Michael Landon.

[11:54:22:13 - 11:54:22:18]
Speaker 1
 The.

[11:54:24:15 - 11:54:39:15]
Speaker 1
 It's fun. I mean, it is painfully of its time. The Halloween party is just like, oh, cringe. Like they keep doing these dumb little pranks on each other and stuff. And I'm a little surprised at its.

[11:54:41:23 - 11:54:58:17]
Speaker 1
 Positive push towards therapy. No, because that wasn't not such a member that he's saying in the. So I'm kidding. But his reaction to it is not positive. It's just the people around him are trying to get him to. Because he is very angry.

[11:55:00:10 - 11:55:01:15]
Speaker 1
 Very much around with that.

[11:55:01:15 - 11:55:04:13]
Speaker 3
 You know, werewolf film. No.

[11:55:06:00 - 11:55:07:14]
Speaker 1
 But I mean.

[11:55:09:07 - 11:55:11:13]
Speaker 1
 It is what it is. It's fun. It's.

[11:55:13:01 - 11:55:22:06]
Speaker 1
 It's it's what it should perfectly. You know, it's not stretching to be something unique like Burnwich Burn or something. It's true.

[11:55:23:09 - 11:55:25:07]
Speaker 1
 Having a good time with a werewolf.

[11:55:25:07 - 11:55:29:00]
Speaker 2
 The werewolf design is kind of fun with a vitamin jacket. Yes.

[11:55:29:00 - 11:55:29:22]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[11:55:32:01 - 11:55:38:10]
Speaker 2
 This this is as we are recording on the 27th. Did you say the six today?

[11:55:38:10 - 11:55:39:07]
Speaker 3
 The six today.

[11:55:40:07 - 11:55:42:23]
Speaker 2
 You're doing your 100 days of horror. Where are you?

[11:55:42:23 - 11:55:52:20]
Speaker 1
 I am at this point, if my count is correct, I am one or two shy of hitting the mark. So when you will see. Yeah. I've got.

[11:55:55:22 - 11:56:01:06]
Speaker 1
 I've watched a couple that I haven't posted yet and stuff like that. I counted on the. Oh,

[11:56:02:09 - 11:56:03:05]
Speaker 1
 yeah.

[11:56:04:12 - 11:56:12:23]
Speaker 1
 So, yeah, I'm kind of hoping I can do a few theater ones. Phone 2. Some of the other stuff.

[11:56:12:23 - 11:56:16:13]
Speaker 3
 Maybe I'll go out and do that to get that final 10.

[11:56:17:20 - 11:56:20:22]
Speaker 3
 Now that you're not watching the Mariners games, you're still out that time.

[11:56:25:06 - 11:56:28:07]
Speaker 2
 Sorry. No, it's not going to be me. It's not going to be me.

[11:56:28:07 - 11:56:31:17]
Speaker 3
 No, I'm trying to get him something positive to look forward to.

[11:56:34:11 - 11:56:43:21]
Speaker 2
 Well, how about we take a little break, Eric? You know, I'm going to come back. We are going to be talking about Bob's book.

[11:56:43:21 - 11:56:45:04]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Yeah.

[11:56:47:06 - 11:56:47:11]
Speaker 1
 No,

[11:56:49:08 - 11:56:49:18]
Speaker 1
 you know.

[11:56:53:04 - 11:56:57:19]
Speaker 2
 But

[11:56:57:19 - 11:56:59:15]
Speaker 1
 Jesus,

[11:57:00:21 - 11:57:06:07]
Speaker 1
 I'm very glad we were on the plane. Oh, it was happening. We didn't have to watch it.

[11:57:06:07 - 11:57:13:09]
Speaker 3
 Happy in real time. Did you just like find out the score when you landed and just. OK, that's probably the best way to do it.

[11:57:13:09 - 11:57:17:09]
Speaker 1
 Well, part of the problem was at one point during the day, I heard somebody say, we're all three one.

[11:57:17:09 - 11:57:17:19]
Speaker 3
 Like,

[11:57:19:03 - 11:57:44:03]
Speaker 3
 my mom was watching it while she was babysitting for Danica. So before I left, she said the exact same thing to me. She goes, we're all three one. She's weirdly into sports now. And yeah, then when I got back, I like were after the movie, I googled it. And I was like, oh, oh, what's the deal? But I'm personally thrilled we made it as far as we did. Like, that's crazy.

[11:57:44:03 - 11:57:46:20]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, that's sort of. I mean,

[11:57:48:00 - 11:57:50:17]
Speaker 1
 bless you, so fun, fun season.

[11:57:50:17 - 11:57:55:15]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I'm glad you guys go to so many games. Did you go to all the home games?

[11:57:55:15 - 11:58:00:12]
Speaker 1
 Oh, no, we didn't go to very much. We watched it. Oh, OK. But we went to.

[11:58:01:15 - 11:58:01:20]
Speaker 1
 Or.

[11:58:02:22 - 11:58:12:02]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, it's just got to be the point where it's. That's it. We just think they're OK. They're not outrageous. 30, 40 dollars for good seeds.

[11:58:12:02 - 11:58:12:19]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[11:58:12:19 - 11:58:14:20]
Speaker 1
 But parking is 75.

[11:58:14:20 - 11:58:25:23]
Speaker 3
 Yes. Yeah. When I went to that Christmas market thing, I did get $80 to park. It's like, I mean, luckily that was it was held in.

[11:58:27:09 - 11:58:29:08]
Speaker 3
 I think that's it. I think it's in that stadium.

[11:58:30:20 - 11:58:35:08]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it's in the Mariner Stadium. Oh, but because they closed the roof for a.

[11:58:35:08 - 11:58:36:04]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[11:58:38:01 - 11:58:40:13]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, but usually you got to get a game going on to get that.

[11:58:40:13 - 11:58:56:00]
Speaker 3
 I went around there. Wow. Yeah. It was very popular. It was a very popular event. But yeah, it was one of those things. And I parked across the street because I was like, I when you have a kid in Tony and Julie, I don't care. I'm thinking of paying

[11:58:56:00 - 11:58:59:13]
Speaker 1
 no more. That's sort of like the 84 year old.

[11:58:59:13 - 11:59:01:10]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, exactly. I did gross.

[11:59:02:22 - 11:59:03:03]
Speaker 1
 Exactly.

[11:59:16:01 - 11:59:17:01]
Speaker 3
 How's your dad doing?

[11:59:19:14 - 11:59:20:23]
Speaker 2
 And I went on some yesterday.

[11:59:22:00 - 11:59:34:21]
Speaker 2
 He was more talkative, which is good because normally it's been like a going up there and holding his hand watching football game. And he will mumble something that I can't understand. He's also deaf as a doorknob.

[11:59:34:21 - 11:59:37:02]
Speaker 3
 So you can't hear away from yourself.

[11:59:37:02 - 11:59:40:12]
Speaker 2
 So and I'm deaf, too. So.

[11:59:42:09 - 11:59:56:18]
Speaker 2
 Yesterday was talkative, but that just kind of illuminated that he's, you know, a little more out of it than usual, because he was telling me it was going to be a loud night. And I was like, oh, why? Oh, isn't it New Year's Eve?

[11:59:57:18 - 12:00:08:10]
Speaker 2
 No, no, no, still October. And of course, this is a place that has pumpkins with witches and everything. And he kind of looked around and he saw that he was like, oh, yeah, it's October.

[12:00:09:17 - 12:00:29:02]
Speaker 2
 And I don't know. I don't know how he's insisting on a couple of sips of milk, first of all, gross. You know, water as an adult and a couple of sips of the soup that they give him. He's not on any kind of medication anymore.

[12:00:30:05 - 12:00:40:14]
Speaker 2
 There's no pain. They'll give him pain medication if he's in pain, but there's no pain. But they're like, we're not testing his blood pressure anymore because why? I'm not giving him the blood pressure medication because why?

[12:00:41:18 - 12:00:45:17]
Speaker 2
 And I just don't know how he's.

[12:00:45:17 - 12:00:58:05]
Speaker 3
 You know, it's weird. So when my grandma had passed away, she decided she wanted to die and she stopped drinking anything. And if they had gotten water in her, she could have lived for like another month or two.

[12:00:58:05 - 12:01:07:03]
Speaker 2
 You know, well, he's he's able to move around and everything. So he's got a little thing. You know, can't get out of bed, but he's got a little thing of ensure. And he takes sips of that.

[12:01:07:03 - 12:01:11:07]
Speaker 3
 That's really good. Like that alone can do a lot for us.

[12:01:11:07 - 12:01:20:14]
Speaker 2
 Which is really impossessed. And they're like, you know, he could be here for months. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know why he's hanging on.

[12:01:21:16 - 12:01:47:05]
Speaker 2
 He can't be enjoying life right now. So and and it could be, you know, I was talking to my brother about it. My dad is a Alaskan Haida Indian. My brother might be he can be ready for death in his Native American body. He's like, well, we got this. No problem. Right. Oh, sure. So it's just going to keep pumping the heart while the brain is still on the brain. He's got cancer in the brain.

[12:01:48:13 - 12:02:03:23]
Speaker 2
 And so, you know, it may not even be dementia. It may just be that the cancer is just starting to heat. Oh, for sure. And all this stuff. And the doctor told me probably has been everywhere. We're not testing for it because of life. But he's not going anywhere, apparently.

[12:02:05:03 - 12:02:14:20]
Speaker 3
 Well, I mean, I guess the one positive thing is you were talking about how your mom was getting statements for that. So hopefully that will just kind of continue to give something towards.

[12:02:14:20 - 12:02:15:09]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[12:02:15:09 - 12:02:17:00]
Speaker 3
 But yeah, that's.

[12:02:17:00 - 12:02:30:03]
Speaker 2
 You know, I would like to lean in and say, hey, dad, you don't have to hang out here if you want to. But then I know the way my imagination works is him going, fuck, you told me to die. I'm not ready to die. I don't want to be that person. There you go.

[12:02:30:03 - 12:02:34:23]
Speaker 3
 I put it as a writer. There's a really eloquent way you could pass that message.

[12:02:34:23 - 12:02:38:20]
Speaker 1
 Although still the reaction is the worry.

[12:02:38:20 - 12:02:40:09]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, exactly.

[12:02:41:19 - 12:02:59:20]
Speaker 2
 But I don't know. I just you know, I was scared of my dad until I was an adult. So watching him as this frail old man who, you know, I said, I was white by people and, you know, you can tell it's kind of confused why he's still in this place instead of home, stuff like that. And I'm just like, Dad.

[12:03:00:20 - 12:03:01:01]
Speaker 2
 You know.

[12:03:03:04 - 12:03:09:01]
Speaker 2
 Move on to whatever, you know, the great Native American heaven is.

[12:03:10:23 - 12:03:15:09]
Speaker 3
 So I'm glad you've been able to visit him and see him as often as you have with us.

[12:03:15:09 - 12:03:16:12]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[12:03:16:12 - 12:03:23:14]
Speaker 3
 I mean, in a way, if I see you, you're not going to work. Right. You're not going to be like, oh, man, I couldn't make it there. I'll see you.

[12:03:23:14 - 12:03:28:07]
Speaker 2
 I tell you, I don't like seeing. That's not the memory I want to get.

[12:03:29:11 - 12:03:29:16]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[12:03:30:18 - 12:03:32:19]
Speaker 2
 So but thanks for asking. Yeah.

[12:03:34:23 - 12:03:35:03]
Speaker 3
 Sorry.

[12:03:35:03 - 12:03:35:23]
Speaker 2
 Also,

[12:03:37:00 - 12:03:41:20]
Speaker 2
 no need to ask again. I'll tell you what he dies. And you can all go. Oh, I'm very sorry for your loss, but

[12:03:42:21 - 12:03:46:22]
Speaker 2
 just assume the answer is he's still on. I mean,

[12:03:48:01 - 12:03:48:23]
Speaker 2
 for some reason,

[12:03:50:01 - 12:03:52:09]
Speaker 2
 continuing to do this for himself.

[12:03:54:02 - 12:03:55:23]
Speaker 2
 What's the order we want to go in this?

[12:03:59:16 - 12:04:01:20]
Speaker 4
 I mean, we know it's going to be this or this.

[12:04:01:20 - 12:04:03:12]
Speaker 2
 So it's either you or I start this off.

[12:04:04:16 - 12:04:08:00]
Speaker 1
 We can go with the classic has to feel about yours. What?

[12:04:09:10 - 12:04:11:19]
Speaker 1
 Sounds like we're about to say like, oh, yeah,

[12:04:11:19 - 12:04:14:21]
Speaker 2
 how about I go first? That way I'm not talking about. Yeah.

[12:04:17:13 - 12:04:19:14]
Speaker 1
 OK, you ready? Yeah.

[12:04:25:12 - 12:04:26:16]
Speaker 2
 We have returned.

[12:04:27:17 - 12:04:38:00]
Speaker 2
 Guys, the the sub genre we are talking about is based on the book that Bob gave us that you would think I would have brought out to show everybody again, but I just watch the ending of our last step.

[12:04:38:00 - 12:04:39:19]
Speaker 1
 Look back real quick.

[12:04:39:19 - 12:04:49:22]
Speaker 2
 I know you can see it there. I will say that I have flipped through this book now a couple of times and I picked out other movies to watch from it, most of them bad.

[12:04:51:07 - 12:04:55:05]
Speaker 2
 But what a great book. And Bob, thank you so much. It was just such a cool gift.

[12:04:56:13 - 12:05:09:15]
Speaker 2
 We were going to each pick something out of this book, this one. And I will start us off by putting five minutes on the strange and the radio buzzer and talk about 1986 is the eliminators.

[12:05:11:23 - 12:05:45:20]
Speaker 2
 Directed by Peter Manouguin, who directed another favorite of mine, enemy territory, demonic toys, arena, seed people, I guess, empire and full moon pictures. Guy, it was written by Danny Billson and Paul DeMeo, who are a writing team of written transfers and it's six sequels. You don't troopers get this the rocketeer and a ton of video games, including the double seven Goldeneye game. But everybody loves that.

[12:05:47:05 - 12:05:56:11]
Speaker 2
 Starring Andrew Prime with 186 credits, tons of episodic television, but also Gettysburg Amityville to the possession and loads of Salem.

[12:05:57:22 - 12:06:09:00]
Speaker 2
 Also, Vanessa, Denise Crosby is in this on the television, probably best known for a pet sanitary miracle mile, and especially as Tashi are in 31 episodes of Star Trek, The Next Generation.

[12:06:10:22 - 12:06:22:09]
Speaker 2
 Patrick Reynolds, who has had bit rolls in Nashville hair, airplane and Xanadu, and then also in this is Roy Dottries, Jose Moreno and Peggy Mannix. Have you guys seen the eliminators?

[12:06:22:09 - 12:06:24:08]
Speaker 1
 What year was this again?

[12:06:24:08 - 12:06:48:02]
Speaker 2
 1986. And no, it isn't six. Really? This is the one who's got the guy who's half tread tank. Oh, yeah. Right. Right. So OK. We open in the laboratory of Dr. Reeves and Dr. Takata, who are working on some pretty bold experiments, one of them is time travel. And the other is a cyborg man who's half man, half tank. Literally the bottom half of this man is a small tank with trends.

[12:06:49:06 - 12:06:52:08]
Speaker 2
 They have given this cyborg the name of mandroid.

[12:06:53:14 - 12:07:16:07]
Speaker 2
 But Reeves has decided that he needs to be destroyed because he is asking too many questions, not the least of which are about himself. Like, who is he and how do you come to be turned into a cyborg by these guys? But Takata shows him pity and helps him escape, which he does in a pretty spectacular way. See, the laboratory is in the middle of the jungle and it is staffed by a bunch of mercenaries. So he blasts his way out, shooting lasers and shit out of his arm.

[12:07:17:08 - 12:07:43:23]
Speaker 2
 He's also the classic cyborg guys with one half of his face is Romano. Yeah, expression blood. This is all good stuff. And I was eating it up. Also, Dr. Takata was killed for having to stay home. So mandroid is able to contact another scientist, Nora Hunter, and he tells her what was going on. Nora was a student of Dr. Reeves and she has a little flying robot that helps her out. It's very reminiscent of Bubo, the other clash of the type.

[12:07:45:11 - 12:07:48:22]
Speaker 2
 It moves it, beeps it and moves its way around and helps out whatever.

[12:07:49:23 - 12:08:28:05]
Speaker 2
 Nora and mandroid agree that they need to stop the time travel experiments of Dr. Reeves because he's planning on going back in time and basically taking Caesar's place. But with current technology, also, mandroid really, really wants to know who he was in his human life. Did he have a family? A wife? A child? It turns out, yes, they find a photograph of him with a wife and a child. He can't remember anything about him, about them. But don't worry. This one is never brought up. Love you. Of himself. Yeah. So they hired Han Solo type ruffian named Harry Fontaine that compiled a boat up the river through the general that reads lavatory. And on the way, they're attacked by cavemen.

[12:08:28:05 - 12:08:29:21]
Speaker 1
 Oh, my God.

[12:08:29:21 - 12:08:42:01]
Speaker 2
 It appears that these cavemen have been transported here by Reeves time machine for some reason and then left to roam the general unsupervised. After escaping these cavemen and you guys, these cavemen are pretty fucking shiny. What can you do?

[12:08:43:12 - 12:08:53:17]
Speaker 2
 They come across a ninja named Kuji who is out for revenge because it turns out he is the son of Dr. Takata, so he joins our little group. And just like that, the eliminators are born.

[12:08:54:22 - 12:09:27:14]
Speaker 2
 Also, as a side note, Kuji can manipulate time and space with his mind. But not very reliably. And certainly not when it would actually help. My God. Anyway, they stormed the lavatory and start taking out the henchmen. But here comes Dr. Reeves, and he is now also a cyborg. He is wearing some pretty silly looking high tech Roman armor. And you can shoot lightning from his shield, which spoiler kills the mandroid. Now, up until now, you may be forgiven for thinking he was the main character and that we were going to find out about his past, because that is certainly where I was in this movie,

[12:09:28:16 - 12:09:39:21]
Speaker 2
 but don't I see it's out of the movie after this. Also, he had only been a cyborg for like a year, so his family is definitely still out there. So it's not like you would learn they have died 40 years ago.

[12:09:40:22 - 12:09:56:17]
Speaker 2
 Anyway, well, Tasha Yar and Timo Han Solo end up together. That literally seems to be the only question they are for. Steve, you said this movie. Also, they and the ninja managed to fuck around with the machine. So when he goes back to engine room, they change it. So he goes back to 400 million.

[12:09:59:22 - 12:10:03:12]
Speaker 2
 400 million BC. Oh, wow. He lands in a time of walking nuts.

[12:10:04:15 - 12:10:13:13]
Speaker 2
 Rolled. Credits line, mandroid, mercenary, scientist, ninja, each one specialist. Together they are the eliminators.

[12:10:15:21 - 12:10:20:14]
Speaker 2
 Throughout the film, the main protagonists are not called or ever referred to as the eliminators.

[12:10:22:08 - 12:10:28:19]
Speaker 2
 And so one of the two from Star Wars influences behind Harry Fontana and spot the robot. Yeah, the robots name is spot.

[12:10:30:01 - 12:10:38:09]
Speaker 2
 Ryan Usner was originally attached as a co-producer. Don the Dragon Wilson was considered for the role of Koji. But the part eventually went to Conan Lee.

[12:10:39:17 - 12:10:49:09]
Speaker 2
 And Tim Thomas was originally slated to play Harry Fontana. We got the least versions of all those people that were supposed to be involved.

[12:10:50:18 - 12:10:52:09]
Speaker 2
 The eliminator. I will say this.

[12:10:54:05 - 12:10:55:00]
Speaker 3
 One question.

[12:10:56:11 - 12:11:05:16]
Speaker 3
 Genre. What chapter did they slot this into in the book? Was it under sci-fi? Was it under action? It was under action. Okay.

[12:11:05:16 - 12:11:06:11]
Speaker 2
 Sure.

[12:11:06:11 - 12:11:07:01]
Speaker 3
 Wow.

[12:11:07:01 - 12:11:09:19]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. The sci-fi is pretty shaky.

[12:11:11:04 - 12:11:12:03]
Speaker 2
 Or the sci-fi it is.

[12:11:12:03 - 12:11:14:20]
Speaker 3
 And it's not animated, right? This is live action?

[12:11:14:20 - 12:11:21:15]
Speaker 2
 Oh, this is live action. And you can clearly see the wires with the little robot flying around.

[12:11:23:12 - 12:11:25:23]
Speaker 2
 This is not something that should have been given a Blu-ray release.

[12:11:25:23 - 12:11:42:20]
Speaker 1
 Here's a weird, weird relate. I was watching a YouTube video, I think Thursday or Friday, where a guy, it's a guy who does a movie poster collecting. And he'd say, I'm good today. I'm talking about movies who had great posters, but the movies were,

[12:11:43:22 - 12:11:45:06]
Speaker 1
 this was one of his films.

[12:11:45:06 - 12:11:59:20]
Speaker 2
 It's a great poster. I mean, it's in the book. And I was like, fuck, I got to watch this. I remember seeing this thing in the video server. Why did I not pick it up? Probably because I had older brothers who were like, that looks like Shin. We are not getting it.

[12:11:59:20 - 12:12:01:06]
Speaker 1
 I was like, no, sorry.

[12:12:02:12 - 12:12:05:17]
Speaker 3
 Vanessa, you want to go next? I guess I would love to.

[12:12:07:15 - 12:12:11:01]
Speaker 3
 So I went with 1988's Black Roses.

[12:12:12:03 - 12:12:13:06]
Speaker 3
 Have you guys seen this movie?

[12:12:13:06 - 12:12:13:17]
Speaker 4
 Fuck yes.

[12:12:14:18 - 12:12:16:20]
Speaker 3
 This seems like a classic.

[12:12:18:03 - 12:12:29:05]
Speaker 3
 This is directed by Jean Fassano, who has seven directing credits, including Zombie Nightmare, Rock and Roll Nightmare, The Jitters, and some TV movies. He also wrote a lot of stuff,

[12:12:30:12 - 12:13:06:00]
Speaker 3
 titles including Darkness Falls, Universal Social of the Return, and did some producing, including on Tombstone. So this guy starring John Martin as Mr. Morehouse, 11 episodes of Days of Our Lives, 159 episodes of Sunset Beach, 38 episodes of Young and the Restless, and 90 episodes of One Life to Live. Jesus. This guy looks like, and definitely did, star in many soap operas. He's just got that look to him. He could be like, whoa, did he kill somebody this week? Or is he the love interest? He's got a beard.

[12:13:07:10 - 12:13:29:12]
Speaker 3
 Sal Vivino plays Danian, the metal musician. He is in mostly just the stuff that director made, and same with Frank Dietz, who plays the lead, Johnny. Maybe lead, Johnny. He actually does a lot of writing now instead of acting, and he works in a lot of animation departments, but he also starred in Rock and Roll Nightmare, Zombie Nightmare, Jitters, et cetera.

[12:13:30:23 - 12:14:04:17]
Speaker 3
 So the story follows Black Roses, and up and coming metal fans is coming to town. The town is so excited. The kids are excited. The parents are not. They are scheduled to have some shows at the high school, and the teachers and parents are ready to boycott. They talk about their lyrics and how absolutely evil they are. And when the band arrives in some very slow-moving doublurians that are clearly borrowed, as they will carefully exit them,

[12:14:05:20 - 12:14:14:18]
Speaker 3
 do not shut the doors. They are coming to paint the town in flyers and free records. The kids are instantly hooked,

[12:14:15:18 - 12:15:20:18]
Speaker 3
 and the parents, who are very worried, attend the first concert, and it's super, super tame. It feels like just some love songs, some just chill. This is a song about my neighborhood. And then as soon as the parents all leave and close the door, rips off his white shirt, it's just we got this leather thing with his nipples hanging out, and just start to rock. The kids begin to go to shows, and they don't just go to one. They go to many because they keep getting free tickets, and they're going over and over and over again, and they're being altered. Their teacher, Mr. Morehouse, sees that they've been changed, and also that the streets have become dangerous with fighting, sex, and crime. The kids are basically kind of becoming, some of them are becoming demons, some are getting drained of their life force, some are just doing murder for funsies, and Mr. Morehouse is determined to stop it. Will he manage to contain the spread and convince the town of them being evil demons? Will he arrive at their final gig with a gas canister and an incredible red puffy vest?

[12:15:22:01 - 12:15:29:12]
Speaker 3
 Will he burn the stage town? But six months later, the Black Roses return and will play Madison Square Garden in their world tour?

[12:15:30:17 - 12:15:53:05]
Speaker 3
 Who knows? Check it out. You must watch Black Roses to see how it all goes. So this is, I don't know who the protagonist is. You follow these kids, and then they kind of disappear, and the teacher, the lit teacher, becomes the hero. But it is okay, because I swear, his red puffy vest,

[12:15:54:07 - 12:16:44:21]
Speaker 3
 I will go into that. Especially him being an action star, but also looking like he should be in an REI catalog in the 80s. It was so good. The monsters are really interesting. They're puppetry, kind of. They look sort of hensity, but they're not consistent. Some look like a sort of Cronenberg organic cords coming out of walls. Some have sort of CGI effect. Some are bulbous monsters, and others are shriveled up looking zombies. They're having a good time. So it kind of doesn't matter. Also, the lead singer's band, the lead singer, his hair is sometimes short and sometimes long. That threw me off. And also, I do love in us that the demons, the way they pretend to be normal dudes, is they just drink glasses of milk.

[12:16:46:05 - 12:16:51:19]
Speaker 3
 It's like, what is happening right now? Are you just drinking a large glass of milk? Like clapping with a teacher?

[12:16:52:19 - 12:16:55:17]
Speaker 3
 Very strange. Very strange. A little bit of trivia.

[12:16:56:19 - 12:17:00:18]
Speaker 3
 Tag line is turn up the volume, turn down the lights, but don't watch it alone.

[12:17:04:09 - 12:17:07:12]
Speaker 3
 That was not the only trivia I had.

[12:17:08:12 - 12:18:35:19]
Speaker 3
 The VHS home cassettes had a raised plastic 3D texture front cover. It was released in November of 1988. Mr. Morehouse's house was rented from a couple who, unknown to the filmmakers, were in the midst of a nasty divorce. The neighbor threatened to shoot any crew member who set foot on his property. And on the final day of the location, the crew arrived to find that the husband was locked inside, refusing to let anyone in. It was shot in eight weeks for 52K, but also had like just under a million for marketing because I think it got sold to somebody and they were psyched. The special effects artists hired for the film were Richard Platt and Michael Maddie, veteran makeup artist Dick Smith had recommended them. The special effects team felt that they were pressured by the eight week shooting schedule, opening scene with the demon bands took three weeks to complete with Platt's stating that the team were putting in 16 to 20 hour days. The soundtrack was released on compact disc in 88 by metal band Records. In review for all music, Bradley Torino noted that while drummer Carmen Apece had assembled the group Black Roses, the material was weaker than his work with Rod Stewart and Ozzy Osbourne. Oh geez. Yeah, so. No kidding. Option, opinion that those four songs contributed to Black Roses included two dull party songs and while the power ballad Paradise were on her way was oddly listenable, the other tracks were quite terrible.

[12:18:37:23 - 12:18:40:02]
Speaker 3
 So that was my movie, Black Roses.

[12:18:40:02 - 12:18:45:09]
Speaker 1
 And the US VHS release of this is all so much better than the British one.

[12:18:45:09 - 12:19:03:12]
Speaker 2
 It's almost the only reason to just take out the movie. Yeah. Is that puffy thing. Now remind me, did we press it and music played or was it just a- I think it was just real. Okay, but I remember seeing that. It took me many years to finally watch this movie and when I did, I was pleasantly surprised.

[12:19:03:12 - 12:19:12:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it's pretty good. I mean, it's not great because it's a low budget 80s or slop.

[12:19:12:05 - 12:19:12:21]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[12:19:12:21 - 12:19:17:09]
Speaker 3
 And it mostly takes place with a band in a high school gym

[12:19:18:15 - 12:19:28:17]
Speaker 3
 thrashing. Like they must have spent about 80% of their shooting schedule just being like, "All right, you guys, we're going again. Everybody jump. Rock, it's amazing."

[12:19:28:17 - 12:19:35:20]
Speaker 2
 One of the songs is horrible, correct me if I'm wrong. I thought like Lizzie Borden's "Me Against the World" was one of the songs that the band.

[12:19:35:20 - 12:19:50:19]
Speaker 1
 I seem to remember mixed, but I did like one or two because I also saw for the first time just a few years ago. Mm-hmm. And I remember going, "Are we okay?" Yeah. I expect very little from an 80s metal band in a movie.

[12:19:50:19 - 12:20:03:11]
Speaker 2
 Fuck, that was like many for 52,000? That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if all the demons were just called together from various effect houses. That's why they looked like they had leftovers.

[12:20:03:11 - 12:20:08:05]
Speaker 3
 That would make a lot of sense for their shooting schedule because the demons were just so inconsistent.

[12:20:08:05 - 12:20:08:15]
Speaker 4
 Oh, yes.

[12:20:08:15 - 12:20:28:20]
Speaker 3
 And like the only ones that did look kind of consistent looked like they were sort of built up and then spray painted. Like they were just sort of molded quickly on. But there was like, I don't know, there's some cool looking stuff. The zombies looked way interesting, but they looked like the Beetlejuice, like parents when they're all sucked in.

[12:20:30:12 - 12:20:31:07]
Speaker 2
 Eric, you wanna go?

[12:20:32:08 - 12:20:32:12]
Speaker 1
 Sure.

[12:20:32:12 - 12:20:33:06]
Speaker 2
 About a minute.

[12:20:33:06 - 12:20:43:16]
Speaker 1
 We were one movie away from having a second, 1986. Oh, yeah. So, because this is from 1986, Neon Maniacs. That's good. Oh, wow.

[12:20:44:18 - 12:21:05:22]
Speaker 1
 Directed by Joseph Mangin, who also did Smoke and Flesh, far more known as a director of photography, like Sword and Sorcerer, Alligator One and Two, Squirm, I Drink Your Blood. So, you know, I had been here. Mark Patrick Carducci was the writer. He also wrote Pumpkinhead, It Buried Alive,

[12:21:07:00 - 12:21:10:04]
Speaker 1
 Flying Saucers Over Hollywood, The Plan Nine Companion.

[12:21:11:11 - 12:21:12:07]
Speaker 1
 I think that's the best part.

[12:21:13:17 - 12:21:25:15]
Speaker 1
 So the actors in there were Clyde Hayes, who's best known for The Gingerbread Man. Okay, probably 63 episodes of The Bold and the Beautiful and Friday the 13th, the final chapter, more likely.

[12:21:27:15 - 12:21:32:00]
Speaker 1
 Lianne, Lianne Sarel, The Days of Thunder, Basic Instinct.

[12:21:33:05 - 12:21:34:23]
Speaker 1
 Not named characters in that song.

[12:21:36:03 - 12:21:39:02]
Speaker 1
 Donna Locke, this is her only film, and John Lafayette,

[12:21:40:16 - 12:21:46:02]
Speaker 1
 you might know from Dr. Doolittle, Clear and Present Danger, and so much television.

[12:21:49:19 - 12:21:51:16]
Speaker 1
 The opening music is interesting.

[12:21:52:21 - 12:21:57:23]
Speaker 1
 Oh, my 1986 Indeed synth kind of weirdness.

[12:21:59:06 - 12:22:08:01]
Speaker 1
 Started off with a bunch of hooligans that are out for the evening in their van. But like, this is 86, right? Because this looks like 76 in the evening.

[12:22:09:02 - 12:22:11:13]
Speaker 1
 So one of the producers or somebody said, I got a van.

[12:22:13:02 - 12:22:24:00]
Speaker 1
 But while they're sitting there, and this dog jumps up in the girl's lap while they're getting drinks out of the 7-Eleven or whatever, and it's the dog of her ex-boyfriend.

[12:22:25:06 - 12:22:30:02]
Speaker 1
 When they seem to still like each other, which really plays very little the rest of the film.

[12:22:32:11 - 12:22:48:00]
Speaker 1
 Sort of, I guess. Anyways, very faint. So in the Great Navy style, they go to some park or something and start partying and build fires, and they pair off. And then there's a weird sound that's heard.

[12:22:49:00 - 12:23:17:17]
Speaker 1
 And suddenly, the, I'm assuming, Neomaniac show up. And to be honest, what is a pretty good scene of just mass slaughter with these very odd-looking creatures, which seem to have no continuity at all between them. Their name's like Shogun and Joan. I don't think that's one of them. But they have a slogan,

[12:23:18:18 - 12:23:21:04]
Speaker 1
 Slasher, Scavenger, Soldier.

[12:23:22:09 - 12:23:26:08]
Speaker 1
 So they're all, I don't know what they are, to be honest.

[12:23:27:21 - 12:23:31:20]
Speaker 1
 But they're using swords and arrows and other ways to take people out.

[12:23:33:00 - 12:23:47:10]
Speaker 1
 They're certainly not neon at any point in this movie. So I'm not sure where the name came from, other than, you know, if you lived in the mid-80s, you know, a guy who had a truck, had neon paint on it, or green, or something like that.

[12:23:48:12 - 12:23:55:00]
Speaker 1
 And then just as soon as they show up, they suddenly vanish, leaving the one lady whose dog jumped onto her alive.

[12:23:56:19 - 12:24:17:23]
Speaker 1
 Nobody knows why. I'm also pretty sure they just went to a local place that had various cop cars and said, "Give us whatever you got." Because there's 70s cop cars, there is a car, 64, 50s cop cars. Each year is like, "Wow, these are unique."

[12:24:19:10 - 12:24:38:23]
Speaker 1
 Next day, we meet the character who we would all identify with, it's an 80s horror fan. But she is eating CQPO cereal. It's definitely hidden enough to where it's recognizable, but you don't see CQPO's face. Our room is full of horror stuff right out of like Salem's Lot did.

[12:24:40:03 - 12:24:49:11]
Speaker 1
 This movie has lots of little references to other movies. She's worse than her and another guy wearing a Stromo hat. There's posters of Blade Runner and Nosferatu.

[12:24:50:14 - 12:25:00:19]
Speaker 1
 The window of the room is Amityville shaped, not a tout. Mask and other cool things throughout her room. And they're making a movie with a VH camera.

[12:25:02:03 - 12:25:10:07]
Speaker 1
 There's a couple moments in this movie where I was, "Wow, this is really fun." And then it's like, "No, it's not."

[12:25:11:19 - 12:25:22:07]
Speaker 1
 There's actually a little bit of weapons in it, in that this one lady survived and everybody is now attacking her, trying to figure out what she knows.

[12:25:23:07 - 12:25:30:07]
Speaker 1
 It's kind of an spoiler, but you won't be upset. The one thing that kills them, the one thing that kills them,

[12:25:34:09 - 12:25:35:20]
Speaker 1
 like signs, it's war.

[12:25:37:01 - 12:25:38:02]
Speaker 4
 Whoa.

[12:25:39:11 - 12:25:46:03]
Speaker 1
 Overall, this movie is just fine. It ends, of course, making a six style with the Battle of the Bands.

[12:25:47:11 - 12:25:51:04]
Speaker 1
 Both the bands are fine. They're a little better than I was expecting.

[12:25:52:21 - 12:25:56:03]
Speaker 1
 But let's see, what other interesting stuff is it?

[12:25:57:07 - 12:26:07:21]
Speaker 1
 Oh, here's an interesting trivia thing. The composer on the movie was Ken Del Schmidt, born in 1958 and listed as a composer for Planet of the Vampires, shot in 1965.

[12:26:08:21 - 12:26:09:05]
Speaker 1
 So I'm like,

[12:26:10:09 - 12:26:26:22]
Speaker 1
 he was seven years old. So I did some math on that. Go, "It turns out him and other composers were hired by MGM to rescore that movie, Witchfinder General, Scream and Scream again, because they didn't want to pay the original composers."

[12:26:28:00 - 12:26:33:04]
Speaker 1
 So, like, ow, that's just it.

[12:26:33:04 - 12:26:37:08]
Speaker 2
 That makes me wonder if I've ever heard the original score to Planet of the Vampires.

[12:26:37:08 - 12:26:43:11]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, exactly. That's, and I just watched that like last weekend. And it's pretty good. Yeah, right.

[12:26:44:19 - 12:27:07:00]
Speaker 1
 Let's see. Oh, another weird, interesting thing. There was so much time. There's so little money in the movie. There's so much time between the first night of shooting to subsequent suits. If you go through the credits, the neon maniacs are credited as several different names, like this four slasher, because they just had to recast people, because people wouldn't show up anymore.

[12:27:08:23 - 12:27:14:02]
Speaker 1
 So, that wasn't that low of a $1.5 million budget. Somebody was screwing up.

[12:27:15:02 - 12:27:15:19]
Speaker 1
 It looked

[12:27:15:19 - 12:27:20:02]
Speaker 2
 like a $50,000 budget. It shot a lot in the dark, and it went out that well.

[12:27:20:02 - 12:27:28:20]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, it was not. But they did cut the original 27 maniacs down to like 12 because of budget.

[12:27:30:02 - 12:27:38:15]
Speaker 1
 Overall, this is fine. It would have been a much more fun 1986 movie than the one I did watch. But yeah, no, this is a fun one.

[12:27:38:15 - 12:27:58:17]
Speaker 2
 I remember seeing this way back then, and like maybe my first time of being frustrated because I was like, this is a cool idea. I want the movie to be better, because I, I loved the idea that they come out like from under a bridge or something, a door under a balustrader or something.

[12:27:58:17 - 12:28:01:08]
Speaker 1
 There's a variety of things that's wonderful.

[12:28:01:08 - 12:28:15:17]
Speaker 2
 It's just like, okay, there's just all of these neon maniacs that are basically just the masks you would find at a Halloween store. And that's their only relation to each other.

[12:28:16:19 - 12:28:53:04]
Speaker 2
 Like you said, the show done. And then there was like a soldier, a soldier, but like a motorcycle helmet thing. And I was like, I kind of love this because, you know, this set up a great franchise. If the movie was that you could just keep bringing out all these different things. You could do a demonic toys type thing where they're always slightly different or it introducing a new character. But it is, it does look really cheap. You've seen 1.5 million. That really surprises me in 86, especially since we saw Black Roses for 52,000.

[12:28:54:17 - 12:28:56:04]
Speaker 2
 Somebody knows how to buy it.

[12:28:56:04 - 12:29:17:05]
Speaker 1
 Okay. There's a little bit more in the description of what I call it here, but it was originally a six week shooting schedule shut down two weeks in as the production company failed to pay many of the set workers and camera tasks. We were taking walkouts and a jumble strike on the set. So they were given 1.5 million, but they weren't given. But maybe

[12:29:17:05 - 12:29:20:03]
Speaker 2
 the movie or the page. Yeah.

[12:29:21:16 - 12:29:29:18]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Well, I was so excited when you said this because I haven't seen it in a long time. Now I'm like, well, maybe I should probably not watch this again.

[12:29:31:06 - 12:29:32:23]
Speaker 1
 Don't create American Hero on your cell phone.

[12:29:34:02 - 12:29:42:00]
Speaker 1
 If you are interested, this is a, I think I watched this on 2B or YouTube. It's available.

[12:29:43:06 - 12:29:44:11]
Speaker 2
 There's something so,

[12:29:46:11 - 12:29:56:16]
Speaker 2
 I love the idea. I love the title Neon Maniacs. It makes no sense, but then just there's all these really neat parts of this film. And none of it quite works.

[12:29:56:16 - 12:30:00:11]
Speaker 1
 Me picking this was a perfect example of what this book was all about.

[12:30:00:11 - 12:30:00:16]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[12:30:00:16 - 12:30:13:06]
Speaker 1
 It's like, I've not heard of it. I'm looking at this guy and all you really see in the book, it's not like there's, it's just the covers. I can see a script chart. And it's like, this is cool. I wouldn't read this.

[12:30:15:15 - 12:30:22:15]
Speaker 2
 Well, there you go. Yeah, there you go, Bob. Thanks so much. I have a feeling we'll probably dip in this book again.

[12:30:22:15 - 12:30:25:04]
Speaker 3
 There's a lot of great stuff in there.

[12:30:25:04 - 12:30:27:00]
Speaker 2
 Or not so great stuff.

[12:30:27:00 - 12:30:32:15]
Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah. There's a lot of truly, we lucked out. I think we really liked it.

[12:30:32:15 - 12:30:35:13]
Speaker 1
 A lot of interesting things to dive into.

[12:30:36:13 - 12:30:51:08]
Speaker 2
 Because the whole thing that was also, there's a ton of exploitation stuff in there. Sexploitation, gore, all the crazy stuff in there. I was, you know, I was gonna throw a wrench into this and watch something called,

[12:30:53:20 - 12:31:05:16]
Speaker 2
 oh, now I can't remember. Not hotshots. Hot something. And it was about a dude who goes to work at a video game arcade. And it is a sex comedy.

[12:31:05:16 - 12:31:11:03]
Speaker 1
 Like joysticks. What a joystick. Oh, okay. You haven't seen joysticks.

[12:31:11:03 - 12:31:29:12]
Speaker 2
 You should. It's really wonderful. I watched the first 10 minutes and I was like, how am I going to get past this with Vanessa? What I've seen is the guy getting his pants pulled down in his Volkswagen available bug. And then have the girls tease him and take pictures of the naked and bring them to the joysticks video arcade. Yeah.

[12:31:29:12 - 12:31:35:12]
Speaker 1
 What? What is this about me now? I was laughing. I spent a video game too.

[12:31:35:12 - 12:31:40:15]
Speaker 2
 I'll go back to all of these are shockingly available on TV.

[12:31:40:15 - 12:31:49:16]
Speaker 3
 I know. I'm just surprised too. I mean, mine was also available on shutter because it's a bigger film. But yeah, I thought these were going to be impossible to find.

[12:31:49:16 - 12:31:53:19]
Speaker 2
 So you may have inspired me to get black roses. Another deal at a natural. Yes.

[12:31:53:19 - 12:32:01:11]
Speaker 3
 Check it out. I'm telling you, man, that that that star, that lead star, he's just basically a 70s Ken doll.

[12:32:02:11 - 12:32:03:15]
Speaker 3
 Right. I'm running to action.

[12:32:03:15 - 12:32:08:16]
Speaker 1
 I mean, when you're listing off soap opera after so probably, God, what does this

[12:32:08:16 - 12:32:15:21]
Speaker 2
 guy look like? Yeah, but only 11 episodes of the ancient stuff like that. You know, that he looks the part and they're just like, well, let's write this guy off.

[12:32:15:21 - 12:32:17:09]
Speaker 1
 Yes.

[12:32:19:06 - 12:32:20:08]
Speaker 1
 Stealing food again.

[12:32:21:22 - 12:32:26:14]
Speaker 2
 All right. Okay. This is the part. Oh, wait. No. This is the part where Eric decides what we're watching.

[12:32:26:14 - 12:32:35:09]
Speaker 1
 Yes, I'm up next. Finally. This is going to be a really freaking weird one. This is brought on by a couple things.

[12:32:36:11 - 12:32:44:15]
Speaker 1
 One, I'm not sure how I got from Hallmark to Lifetime, but it's sort of a, you know, Hallmark is supposed to be doing a bunch of Halloween movies, which I think they did.

[12:32:44:15 - 12:32:47:16]
Speaker 2
 I don't remember seeing them. I saw a trailer for something.

[12:32:48:18 - 12:32:57:16]
Speaker 1
 And then I mentioned something like that and he's like, ever seen a Lifetime movie? Okay.

[12:32:59:04 - 12:33:18:11]
Speaker 1
 And she sold me on one of them. And then I was reading Chris Alexander's book and he's touting this film too. So we're going to do Lifetime movies with, let's lean towards some of the stalkerry horror, I know they did a lot of movies about women in peril or anything, but

[12:33:18:11 - 12:33:25:08]
Speaker 2
 Vanessa and I get to suffer because you wanted to talk about one movie.

[12:33:25:08 - 12:33:28:19]
Speaker 3
 Pretty much. That's what it really feels like right now.

[12:33:28:19 - 12:33:32:17]
Speaker 1
 It's like, how many of subjects have we all had? I have to get that at some point.

[12:33:34:00 - 12:33:34:12]
Speaker 1
 All right.

[12:33:35:12 - 12:33:36:14]
Speaker 2
 Lifetime movies it is.

[12:33:41:20 - 12:33:58:15]
Speaker 2
 Now's the part where I say thanks to everybody who's out there liking and sharing posts, who's interacting with us on the Strange Yams Radio Talk page or YouTube channel, all of that stuff feeds the algorithm. I'm told I don't understand it and I'm not sure they believe it, but

[12:33:59:22 - 12:34:03:08]
Speaker 1
 It was nice to see Badger back on me again.

[12:34:05:04 - 12:34:10:08]
Speaker 2
 He's sending me scary stuff on Instagram once again. So I hope he's doing better.

[12:34:11:11 - 12:34:22:01]
Speaker 2
 And the thing we really want to think about is if you're one of the people out there who's donating somehow to the podcast and they can do that in a number of different ways. How do they do that?

[12:34:22:01 - 12:34:24:07]
Speaker 1
 Well, there's the number.

[12:34:24:07 - 12:34:29:20]
Speaker 3
 Let's hear it again. Oh, yes. You can give us a call and check in with us. Talk to us.

[12:34:31:00 - 12:34:33:20]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, this is not how they donate. Hold on. We'll get back to you. Okay.

[12:34:35:07 - 12:34:37:14]
Speaker 3
 I'm trying to figure out how to shoehorn this in there.

[12:34:37:14 - 12:34:38:16]
Speaker 4
 Thank you for coming.

[12:34:40:19 - 12:34:42:03]
Speaker 2
 There's a well-oiled machine.

[12:34:42:03 - 12:34:46:16]
Speaker 1
 It's a PayPal and

[12:34:48:17 - 12:35:00:07]
Speaker 1
 buy me a pizza or buy me a coffee. You donate to that. It'd be great if you could, you know, if you feel you know, do this sometimes. So now it'd be great because we're looking at upgrading our microphones.

[12:35:01:08 - 12:35:06:06]
Speaker 1
 So if you got a little five, 10 bucks extra hanging around, feel free to send it.

[12:35:06:06 - 12:35:14:07]
Speaker 2
 Absolutely. It is called value for value. If you get any value out of this, we will assume you do if you're listening to it. Give some value back.

[12:35:16:04 - 12:35:17:12]
Speaker 2
 So all right. Now what's that strange?

[12:35:17:12 - 12:35:30:02]
Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah. So also, if you want to talk to us or ask us questions, give us suggestions or just say, hey, you can reach us on the strange eons radio hotline on 253-237-4266.

[12:35:31:21 - 12:35:34:09]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Trump dial us, butt dial us.

[12:35:34:09 - 12:35:41:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I want to know what your conversation is when you're at Macy's walking through the aisles.

[12:35:41:00 - 12:35:42:04]
Speaker 2
 Do

[12:35:42:04 - 12:35:46:08]
Speaker 3
 you have a size six in this?

[12:35:49:13 - 12:35:49:18]
Speaker 3
 Hey,

[12:35:51:03 - 12:35:56:14]
Speaker 3
 I've listened to many a long walk going. Did you mean to call me?

[12:35:56:14 - 12:36:01:19]
Speaker 2
 Hello. I like that you just listen. Generally, I hang up if I realize.

[12:36:01:19 - 12:36:02:07]
Speaker 3
 I know.

[12:36:03:07 - 12:36:12:03]
Speaker 3
 There was a long time where I would just be like, where are you? I want to, I need to know more about your life. It's usually just my brother. Hey, you guys hear about Vanessa.

[12:36:15:00 - 12:36:17:22]
Speaker 3
 It's never as fascinating as you think it's going to be.

[12:36:17:22 - 12:36:31:04]
Speaker 2
 All right, gang. That's it for this episode. We'll be back in two short weeks talking lifetime movies. I'm sure this will be a very highly watched episode. Sorry. Bring on the women in purple. We'll see you next time.

[12:36:33:00 - 12:36:37:13]
Speaker 4
 Yeah,

[12:36:39:08 - 12:36:41:00]
Speaker 2
 I got to tell you, I kind of hate to do.