338 ONCE IN A LIFETIME!

338 ONCE IN A LIFETIME!
Streamer prices keep going up and the gang dishes Lifetime movies!
Also discussed: Him, Coyotes, Peacemaker.

Transcript

[12:37:05:00 - 12:37:08:06]
Speaker 1
 It's a short, short pool. This is a shallow pool.

[12:37:08:06 - 12:37:13:22]
Speaker 3
 It is a yes, but with a lie in it, there is a lot of fodder. It's just,

[12:37:13:22 - 12:37:29:20]
Speaker 2
 you know, and there are a lot of directors and writers that really tout these lifetime, like back in the candy, just like I like, I love life. I probably love to make life. I love it. I'm this is just not stuff that I'm interested in.

[12:37:29:20 - 12:37:47:15]
Speaker 1
 Well, I mean, it's like it's like this romantic movie aisle of bookshelf. Yeah. Yeah. For a while in the 90s, I may mention this at some point, but women in peril movies were the number one produced movie in America. And almost all of them were coming

[12:37:47:15 - 12:37:48:16]
Speaker 3
 from lifetime.

[12:37:49:18 - 12:37:52:12]
Speaker 3
 That whole thriller period where, you know,

[12:37:52:12 - 12:37:54:12]
Speaker 1
 Hannah Roxanne Craig on that.

[12:37:54:12 - 12:38:01:18]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. But like, I'm trying to remember that one actress who was like, Ashley Judd, she was in like,

[12:38:01:18 - 12:38:04:21]
Speaker 2
 just the girl, a spider.

[12:38:06:15 - 12:38:13:07]
Speaker 1
 And then those did well. So, you know, people with 50 grand, 100 grand to make a movie are all this kind of thing.

[12:38:13:07 - 12:38:20:21]
Speaker 3
 So yeah, that was the middle. That was that was what was being that was what was happening instead of or at that time. I feel like. Yeah.

[12:38:20:21 - 12:38:30:12]
Speaker 2
 So I just saw that Netflix. No, crime has something called Lazarus by Harlan Cobin.

[12:38:30:12 - 12:38:32:13]
Speaker 3
 Is this based on a comic?

[12:38:32:13 - 12:38:58:07]
Speaker 2
 I think it's based on a no, I think it is something he wrote specifically. He writes crime thrillers and stuff like that. And I took his BBC course thing and I got a lot out there. Like, oh, I like the way this guy talks and the way this guy thinks. But I see that he just did this and it is a horror thriller series on crime. And I guess I better get some shots.

[12:39:00:05 - 12:39:12:02]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, because I mean, he's a multimillion dollar seller and all that stuff. The lines of the guy who writes the feature and all those things. But I've never read any one of these books.

[12:39:12:02 - 12:39:21:07]
Speaker 3
 Well, let us know if it's any good, because that sounds like the kind of thing that sounds awesome, but it ended just sucking us. I've been so disappointed by cool plots.

[12:39:21:07 - 12:39:36:13]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Well, I mean, I have no idea what this is. I didn't think because he doesn't write horror, I didn't think it was horror. And then when it popped up on Prime, it said horror. And Harlan Cobin's Lazarus. Looks like a medical thriller. It's really good to be horror.

[12:39:39:08 - 12:39:40:08]
Speaker 1
 Movies for this episode.

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Speaker 2
 Um, she's got the lips and the body and all right, right. These can make

[12:39:49:08 - 12:39:54:07]
Speaker 3
 sense to see her. But about him.

[12:39:58:02 - 12:40:00:18]
Speaker 3
 Movies watched. What did I see?

[12:40:06:04 - 12:40:08:01]
Speaker 3
 Does anybody want to talk about Peacemaker?

[12:40:11:03 - 12:40:11:12]
Speaker 3
 Um,

[12:40:12:17 - 12:40:15:15]
Speaker 3
 so yeah, I could do that.

[12:40:21:07 - 12:40:22:12]
Speaker 3
 I'll do that in sketch.

[12:40:23:14 - 12:40:23:23]
Speaker 3
 Oh, good.

[12:40:27:08 - 12:40:48:10]
Speaker 2
 I was going to talk about the series of Friday the 13th fan films and found that were shockingly good and have the guy who played Tommy in part five reprising his role now 40 years later and on the hunt.

[12:40:49:10 - 12:40:51:07]
Speaker 2
 And I was just like, boy, these guys.

[12:40:52:11 - 12:41:02:18]
Speaker 2
 Just going to tell you that. But that's good.

[12:41:02:18 - 12:41:03:18]
Speaker 3
 So you too?

[12:41:03:18 - 12:41:10:19]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. I'll send you. It's interesting because there's two of them and there's a third one planning and this guy's just.

[12:41:13:13 - 12:41:48:12]
Speaker 2
 Kickstarting all of these movies and he's got this plan. He's like, you know, or no, I guess he's what's the one where you can use the money as it comes in. And he go going it because he's got a $200,000 budget that he's looking for, but he's got it broken down into three films. So the first film costs 50,000. The next one costs 75,000. And then the last of whatever. Jesus. I don't know if they look great though. And the first film, you know, he's gotten the funds for the first two films. They're okay.

[12:41:48:12 - 12:41:51:02]
Speaker 3
 Probably like feature or they short.

[12:41:51:02 - 12:42:00:07]
Speaker 2
 First one was 40 minutes and then the second one was like an hour and 10 minutes. So he's moving up and the effects of grades and the acting is fine.

[12:42:01:12 - 12:42:03:12]
Speaker 2
 As far as fighting 13. Yeah.

[12:42:03:12 - 12:42:06:04]
Speaker 3
 These go so much. There's exactly the.

[12:42:07:10 - 12:42:10:00]
Speaker 3
 A good, good genre to tap into.

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Speaker 2
 Well, and he's actually taking it kind of in an interesting way. Because I think the third movie is like the ghost of Jason. I was just like, this guy's built like a complete fucking storyline. It's a little more a little bolder than the studio. Go for it.

[12:42:27:04 - 12:42:39:14]
Speaker 3
 Just because I'm so shy around fan films, the Star Trek is just, I won't touch any of that stuff with like a wonderful. There's a series

[12:42:39:14 - 12:42:48:20]
Speaker 1
 here that was done locally that did some really good stuff. They were like, George K. And some other stuff. That was like, that's about it.

[12:42:48:20 - 12:42:52:20]
Speaker 3
 It sounds like Bob, Ben Dobbins that I want to watch it.

[12:42:54:20 - 12:43:01:08]
Speaker 2
 Brian Box was telling me that he is a Star Trek, sure. As you know, 66.

[12:43:02:22 - 12:43:13:09]
Speaker 2
 And he's like, he found, I guess, a series that continues on with your five and just recast the actors. And he's like, it is great. So I'm like, I

[12:43:13:09 - 12:43:20:04]
Speaker 3
 might have to sit down and watch that. Interesting. Because they have a comic that's year five. It's called year five.

[12:43:20:04 - 12:43:26:11]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, well, that's what I don't know what it's called. But he was saying it's the fifth year of the show had continued.

[12:43:27:12 - 12:43:28:20]
Speaker 2
 So did you just say fascinating?

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Speaker 2
 Not on purpose.

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Speaker 3
 I didn't go back. I don't regret it. If I did.

[12:43:37:21 - 12:43:40:09]
Speaker 1
 Just to afraid of 13th, it was not the local ones.

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Speaker 2
 But

[12:43:43:01 - 12:43:46:09]
Speaker 2
 much bigger budgeting.

[12:43:46:09 - 12:43:49:21]
Speaker 3
 That's awesome. I did. Really? So you have to pay for the rental, by the way.

[12:43:49:21 - 12:43:51:20]
Speaker 2
 For the fanfels? Yeah. No.

[12:43:51:20 - 12:43:54:21]
Speaker 1
 Okay. He would get a phone call very quickly.

[12:43:54:21 - 12:43:56:17]
Speaker 3
 Oh, sure. Okay.

[12:43:58:22 - 12:44:10:00]
Speaker 2
 Welcome to Strangie on his radio. That is Eric over there. That's Vanessa over there. I am Kelly Haking. Spoiler.

[12:44:11:07 - 12:44:17:07]
Speaker 2
 Keep behind the curtain. We are recording this the same day as the last episode. So we haven't had half a wing yet.

[12:44:18:19 - 12:44:23:08]
Speaker 2
 Happy single day. Welcome to Derry. Yeah. So we won't be talking about those things.

[12:44:25:06 - 12:44:29:06]
Speaker 3
 How is it? Two, three, four weeks from now, guys. How's it looking up there?

[12:44:29:06 - 12:44:58:06]
Speaker 2
 Let me tell you this. This is welcome to Derry showing up right now is pissing me off. Because I don't know about you guys. Vanessa, you probably pay for all of your streamers, right? You're not sharing passwords with people. Because I was doing that. I'll give you mine. You give yours, right? Sure. HBO is like locked down. So you're not, if you're sharing an HBO password, you're not like me. You're not getting HBO right now.

[12:44:59:17 - 12:45:15:14]
Speaker 2
 So I will have to either pay for that or find some other means. But also, I just got a notice from Disney that my price is going up at the end of the month. Yeah, 19 bucks a month. And I was like, I will drop Disney.

[12:45:15:14 - 12:45:54:21]
Speaker 3
 I got the same email and it's like a Disney Hulu, whatever package. So I went onto the website and I just earfed and dug until I found a package that was less than the one I'm already paying. And because I didn't realize I was part of some package way back in the day where they just threw in ESPN. I was like, oh, there's F about that. So I was able to get the price to like a decent amount that way. But no, it's ridiculous that these are just going to keep going up in price. And it's like, what? But the whole reason you have so many subscribers and like the economy right now, you guys are really going to just keep going up in price. You're going to lose people.

[12:45:54:21 - 12:46:09:06]
Speaker 2
 Netflix just reported a gigantic quarterly earnings. And I'm part of that because they raised their rate on the. And it's just like, okay, well, it's getting harder and harder to justify.

[12:46:10:06 - 12:46:19:18]
Speaker 2
 And Disney was the one where I was like, Disney comes out with something every couple of months that I would like to watch. And Netflix comes out with something that I would like to watch.

[12:46:19:18 - 12:46:22:22]
Speaker 3
 If I didn't have a toddler, I would cancel Disney so fast. Yeah.

[12:46:22:22 - 12:46:24:09]
Speaker 1
 I'm sure it's a big difference.

[12:46:24:09 - 12:46:34:01]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. And it's because it's tied into Hulu. My mom helps me. For one joy after my father goes to bed, she washes a soap operas.

[12:46:35:01 - 12:46:37:13]
Speaker 3
 On. So that's kind of my payment.

[12:46:38:22 - 12:46:41:15]
Speaker 2
 Right. That's pretty good. That's pretty cheap.

[12:46:43:05 - 12:46:48:20]
Speaker 2
 But I mean, that's just it. I'm also so I'm borrowing somebody's password. Yes. Louisville.

[12:46:50:03 - 12:47:02:23]
Speaker 2
 But they've got my password for Netflix. And once that cracks down, I deal with them. But that goes away. If Hulu gets taken away from me.

[12:47:05:01 - 12:47:05:06]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[12:47:05:06 - 12:47:16:08]
Speaker 2
 So it's getting kind of to a point where I sure love it. If they just bundle it all together and charge me one price.

[12:47:16:08 - 12:47:22:08]
Speaker 1
 You could like have all these samples you plug into the back of your TV. Yeah. That's all of the shit.

[12:47:23:12 - 12:47:29:00]
Speaker 1
 Okay. That's like living with that. Yeah. Marty. Now he has directing.

[12:47:30:00 - 12:47:35:03]
Speaker 1
 And so, you know, you kind of forget how nice that is, even though it is.

[12:47:36:13 - 12:47:46:14]
Speaker 1
 A digital version. So it's got strange menus. Yeah. Weird ways to move around it. But it's.

[12:47:46:14 - 12:47:51:14]
Speaker 2
 Does that include my Disney and HBO and all that?

[12:47:51:14 - 12:47:52:17]
Speaker 3
 Well, it's like a Disney channel.

[12:47:52:17 - 12:47:54:08]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, it does have a Disney.

[12:47:54:08 - 12:47:56:01]
Speaker 3
 But yeah, you're not picking.

[12:47:57:09 - 12:48:02:11]
Speaker 2
 And then for that kind of stuff, are you able to just pull up a movie and watch it? Or are you?

[12:48:02:11 - 12:48:11:13]
Speaker 1
 They do have on demand options and you can join streaming services through. Right. Directly.

[12:48:11:13 - 12:48:16:21]
Speaker 2
 But. Right. Everything costs too much. Yeah. It sure does.

[12:48:19:14 - 12:48:30:14]
Speaker 1
 Not to that. It doesn't mean to apply. Oh, one other thing I wanted to mention real quickly. Is a lot of people reacted to my post a few weeks ago about the In the Mouth of Madness. Sutter Kane book coming. Yeah.

[12:48:32:02 - 12:48:33:23]
Speaker 1
 So far, a little disappointed.

[12:48:35:04 - 12:48:44:14]
Speaker 1
 If it had not been titled as being Sutter Kane's book and just the actual author, it would have been different because it's just a novelization.

[12:48:46:06 - 12:48:52:21]
Speaker 1
 I was hoping it was going to. Yeah. Parallel the movie, but then also go into what Sutter Kane's book.

[12:48:52:21 - 12:48:56:12]
Speaker 2
 What's supposed to be. But wait, the book has to be the movie.

[12:48:56:12 - 12:49:14:10]
Speaker 1
 But there's stuff in the movie that is relates to his book that you don't actually get. You don't read. You don't hear. Like when he shoves his face into the book. There are parts of that that are the movie parts of it that are not. That's kind of hoping it'd be more.

[12:49:16:03 - 12:49:23:14]
Speaker 2
 You want it extra. Yeah, something's. I said it didn't give a little extra just because that's what you do when you novelize a screenplay.

[12:49:23:14 - 12:49:29:13]
Speaker 1
 It might. I haven't read too far into it. It did. It did solve the single black crayon problem.

[12:49:31:13 - 12:49:49:20]
Speaker 1
 In the beginning, he asked for anything. Oh, okay. Single black. That's right. I guess it does address that, which was a nice little addition. But how's the writing style? It's fine. Okay. I looked at the upper free order name, but it looks like they do a lot of novelizing.

[12:49:51:00 - 12:49:53:17]
Speaker 1
 Many, many, many. Problemizations.

[12:49:54:23 - 12:49:57:20]
Speaker 1
 I mean, even if it turns out to be fine.

[12:50:00:00 - 12:50:01:11]
Speaker 1
 It still looks cool as hell, man.

[12:50:01:11 - 12:50:07:06]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I know. It's so cool looking on the show. I haven't even cracked it. Nobody bought it actually. What are you thinking?

[12:50:10:00 - 12:50:12:00]
Speaker 3
 It is really just a collector's.

[12:50:12:00 - 12:50:21:04]
Speaker 2
 I mean, I hope they come out with the rest of the set of game books, just so I can have them on my shelf. And have a little map. Yeah. Well, that would be very cover.

[12:50:23:23 - 12:50:25:07]
Speaker 2
 Let's talk about movies, guys.

[12:50:27:12 - 12:50:33:01]
Speaker 2
 I saw. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I saw just a long.

[12:50:33:01 - 12:50:35:03]
Speaker 1
 I was just reading about that this morning.

[12:50:35:03 - 12:50:37:06]
Speaker 3
 I would say nothing about this.

[12:50:37:06 - 12:50:52:12]
Speaker 2
 This is about a group of people. This is Justin Long and his wife. I can't remember her name. She played Sandra Dee in the Buck Darrin movie. She plays Lois Lane in Super Nintendo.

[12:50:54:06 - 12:51:14:16]
Speaker 2
 Everybody's yelling at me right now. Very pretty young one. And she plays his wife in this also. And they live in the Hollywood Hills as a fire is breaking out and a very aggressive group of coyotes is also attack.

[12:51:16:13 - 12:51:28:23]
Speaker 2
 The coyotes are not real, of course. They are computer generated. I think some of the problems with them is that they're clearly AI. And so like.

[12:51:28:23 - 12:51:31:07]
Speaker 3
 What's a cartoon? What's a.

[12:51:31:07 - 12:51:37:23]
Speaker 2
 I want someone to go see one of them, you know, open their mouth. And I was like, boy, what would be teeth you have? Manly, oddly placed.

[12:51:39:13 - 12:51:44:13]
Speaker 2
 That's not what it looks like. And these coyotes are pretty big. I mean,

[12:51:46:00 - 12:51:54:12]
Speaker 2
 you know, there's a difference. We don't get to see them very often. Coyotes and dogs are pretty much the same size. Coyotes are often smaller. Yeah.

[12:51:55:19 - 12:52:08:22]
Speaker 2
 And wolves and dogs are nowhere near. They're very big. These feel more like wolves, but I'm guessing for the story, they were like, how are we going to how are we going to sell a bunch of wolves?

[12:52:10:11 - 12:52:35:07]
Speaker 2
 So what we have are these super large coyotes are very aggressive. And they're taking out family members and stuff like that because they're getting in the house. Justin one's one of those people who's like, oh, well, I'm not going to. Evacuate the fire won't come to our and then a tree falls on their car. So they are basically stuck there as the fire is going and the coyotes are attacking.

[12:52:36:08 - 12:52:42:02]
Speaker 2
 I don't know. I keep watching these Justin Wong movies. I keep thinking I like him.

[12:52:42:02 - 12:52:48:20]
Speaker 1
 He did some good stuff early on, but those were not movies. He was the lead him.

[12:52:48:20 - 12:53:00:12]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, he is. Then in some of the films that I've hated the most. So I only like him in a barbarian. That's the only film that I don't hate him.

[12:53:00:12 - 12:53:13:12]
Speaker 2
 I wonder if I mean, murmuring is kind of an asshole. And maybe that's why we like them in barbarian. And pricing to me that rumor.

[12:53:15:00 - 12:53:26:23]
Speaker 2
 But in this he's kind of wishy washy. That's his character and just about every film for sure. And I don't know. I don't know. I think the story is really.

[12:53:28:08 - 12:53:29:14]
Speaker 2
 It's pretty unbelievable,

[12:53:31:03 - 12:53:34:11]
Speaker 2
 but it's got a fairly decent budget. The flames look really good.

[12:53:34:11 - 12:53:35:07]
Speaker 3
 Well, not just something.

[12:53:36:12 - 12:53:41:11]
Speaker 1
 I wonder if it's got a good source for we know what flames.

[12:53:41:11 - 12:54:00:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, mostly I thought I wanted to discuss it because like there were clearly some AI wolves. And so I got a computer handheld computer and I said, the wolves are the coyotes and the movie coyotes AI generated. Yes, there is a backlash for these AI generated coyotes.

[12:54:02:18 - 12:54:12:03]
Speaker 2
 Some of them look so bad. I'm surprised they didn't to the film. Like they don't they're walking down the driveway. And I was like, that wolf is not touching the ground.

[12:54:12:03 - 12:54:18:13]
Speaker 3
 Where was this released on? Like it's a rental. It's a rental. Okay, so it's just kind of like straight to stream.

[12:54:18:13 - 12:54:26:08]
Speaker 2
 I can't imagine it's any kind of theatrical. I think that Justin Long he I wish I could remember his wife's name.

[12:54:28:10 - 12:54:44:05]
Speaker 2
 I think they have some kind of production company because they were also in a movie together where she was a vampire. She seduces him back to her house. That was not very good. And I was like, oh, these guys been making low budge horror films for some reason.

[12:54:44:05 - 12:54:47:00]
Speaker 3
 It's going to be the next Blumhouse. Blonhouse.

[12:54:47:00 - 12:54:51:00]
Speaker 2
 Oh no. Blonhouse is actually a pretty great name.

[12:54:52:17 - 12:54:55:06]
Speaker 2
 Are you looking up for her?

[12:54:56:16 - 12:55:00:20]
Speaker 3
 Oh,

[12:55:03:01 - 12:55:04:12]
Speaker 3
 he's married to Kate Bosworth.

[12:55:06:23 - 12:55:11:03]
Speaker 3
 She can do so much better.

[12:55:14:02 - 12:55:14:19]
Speaker 1
 Anyway,

[12:55:17:13 - 12:55:17:20]
Speaker 1
 coyotes.

[12:55:17:20 - 12:55:26:19]
Speaker 2
 It's a rental. I would say if you have any interest in this, wait for free stream and then get back to me on what you think these coyotes look like.

[12:55:28:15 - 12:55:49:06]
Speaker 3
 So I can't remember which listener recommended it for me, but somebody said that I should absolutely watch this film. It's called sketch. Yeah, I said that. I remember you saying that, but I thought somebody else also was like, I have to see this, but it might have been Bob. I don't know. But thank you to whoever and also Kelly for recommending it.

[12:55:49:06 - 12:55:52:21]
Speaker 1
 It was

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Speaker 3
 amazing.

[12:55:55:07 - 12:56:05:23]
Speaker 3
 I love this film. It is definitely a kid's film. But it, I don't know, like the, it's just fun and freaky and all kinds of great ways. It's dark as hell.

[12:56:07:06 - 12:56:16:07]
Speaker 3
 And I don't understand how like angel network or whatever was convinced to put it out. Because this is the religious film company.

[12:56:16:07 - 12:56:18:02]
Speaker 2
 Oh, it is. I know that.

[12:56:18:02 - 12:56:27:04]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, they, they're the religious film company and they backed this kind of first time feature and there's no big religion in it.

[12:56:27:04 - 12:56:31:06]
Speaker 1
 August religious is not really worried about scaring the shit out of kids.

[12:56:31:06 - 12:56:36:08]
Speaker 3
 Well, no, but you'd think that they'd have to have a Jesus message somewhere in there.

[12:56:36:08 - 12:56:37:09]
Speaker 2
 It's just softening.

[12:56:39:15 - 12:56:39:22]
Speaker 3
 Gateway.

[12:56:41:13 - 12:56:47:06]
Speaker 2
 Message at the end. It's just a good movie. Text Mel Gibson's.

[12:56:47:06 - 12:56:48:15]
Speaker 3
 Any. Jesus Christ.

[12:56:51:13 - 12:56:58:01]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I think that this is a great gateway film. If you are a horror parent and you want to introduce yourself to

[12:56:58:01 - 12:56:58:19]
Speaker 3
 kids. I agree.

[12:56:58:19 - 12:57:00:20]
Speaker 2
 This is the kind of movie you don't.

[12:57:00:20 - 12:57:05:00]
Speaker 3
 It's so and I love that messaging to introduce

[12:57:05:00 - 12:57:06:07]
Speaker 1
 yourself to kids.

[12:57:07:15 - 12:57:09:20]
Speaker 2
 I thought I said that's your stuff, but.

[12:57:09:20 - 12:57:18:03]
Speaker 1
 Oh, that's what I heard. That's. That's. I like that much better. That's what I got. We have. That's what the horror.

[12:57:18:03 - 12:57:47:02]
Speaker 3
 This is a great book. But I think it's interesting too, because it's got the sort of messaging where you think it's going to be like, you shouldn't do bad things. And instead, it's like, be yourself, be yourself. It's okay to have the feelings you're feeling. And I was like, I didn't expect that. That was that was not the end message that I thought we were going to land on due to the way it's structured. So and then is it Tony Hale? He's a great.

[12:57:48:22 - 12:57:49:18]
Speaker 3
 Unrecognizable.

[12:57:49:18 - 12:57:57:08]
Speaker 2
 Actually. Yeah. I like just like, who is this guy? And then I'm like, Oh, I only watched five seasons of him. I know some development.

[12:57:57:08 - 12:57:58:10]
Speaker 3
 Yeah,

[12:57:59:16 - 12:58:24:02]
Speaker 3
 I immediately was like, is that but what? This is great. He's like doing something so different and the kids are not irritating. The kids were great. Yes. And something you had said, which I loved about this was that their brother and sister, but they don't hate each other. That's huge. Just like so refreshing to just watch some siblings who like, you know, they have their little swabbles, but they just back each other in the end. You know?

[12:58:24:02 - 12:58:27:10]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Very good. Is this streaming for free now or

[12:58:27:10 - 12:58:29:23]
Speaker 3
 I paid for it. It's really

[12:58:29:23 - 12:58:39:12]
Speaker 2
 good. Everybody needs about much. I was telling you that this was written by that guy that wrote that came up with the story clock way of telling a story.

[12:58:40:18 - 12:58:46:09]
Speaker 2
 So to see that actually in action and realize how solid it was.

[12:58:46:09 - 12:58:54:15]
Speaker 3
 Really? In fact, it's okay. There you go. It felt like such a just a strong structural story. So yeah, okay. Stop.

[12:58:54:15 - 12:58:56:20]
Speaker 1
 It's a good job. You haven't said that it's clock.

[12:58:56:20 - 12:59:03:01]
Speaker 2
 Oh, I'm sure he probably posted. A call for all sorts of movies.

[12:59:03:01 - 12:59:08:11]
Speaker 1
 So all right. Go back to something that's not for kids.

[12:59:09:13 - 12:59:12:02]
Speaker 1
 1963. We have the whip and the body.

[12:59:13:16 - 12:59:14:04]
Speaker 1
 It's not pretty.

[12:59:14:04 - 12:59:16:11]
Speaker 3
 It does not sound like for the kids.

[12:59:16:11 - 12:59:19:12]
Speaker 1
 Starting Christopher Lee and Dolly L. Levine.

[12:59:20:19 - 12:59:21:12]
Speaker 1
 Calium production.

[12:59:22:18 - 12:59:26:00]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. This wasn't hammer, wasn't this? Yes.

[12:59:28:10 - 12:59:37:13]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Something on those lines. The feels like a hammer though. I mean, of course, Christopher Lee being in a horror film. That's gothic. Just not.

[12:59:38:22 - 12:59:54:17]
Speaker 1
 That's where you're going to go. But it's directed by Mario Buffet. Oh, so colors are awesome. Yeah. This is a beautiful movie of a pretty dark story. It's amazing. Yeah. Involving.

[12:59:57:02 - 12:59:59:11]
Speaker 1
 S&M basically. That's gonna say whips play.

[12:59:59:11 - 13:00:01:18]
Speaker 2
 S&M from Beyond the Grave.

[13:00:01:18 - 13:00:05:04]
Speaker 3
 Yes. Yes. And it's not hellraiser?

[13:00:06:13 - 13:00:09:18]
Speaker 1
 No, it's a lot more correct.

[13:00:11:03 - 13:00:21:04]
Speaker 1
 I mean, the storyline is basically Christopher Lee is a ghost who attacked the woman before he was a ghost. And she enjoyed the whipping.

[13:00:22:16 - 13:00:42:16]
Speaker 1
 And as he comes back as a ghost, she continues to enjoy it more and more. While her husband or future husband is trying to figure out what's going on, battling stuff. It's a strange film. Yeah. Of course, Mario Buffet again. So, Bob is expected.

[13:00:43:18 - 13:00:57:09]
Speaker 1
 But man, Christopher Lee is really good at this. He is creepy, dark. There's not the hint of humor he sometimes has in his like, like, Dracula characters and stuff.

[13:00:58:18 - 13:01:02:19]
Speaker 1
 So yeah, if you're a fan of either one of those two, this is definitely a must-see.

[13:01:02:19 - 13:01:15:19]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I think I talked about this in our Christopher Lee episode. I think this might have. And I remember it was the first time watching me and I remember going, this is surprisingly sleazy for the time period.

[13:01:15:19 - 13:01:36:11]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, yeah. 1963. So, you know, early 60s. There's no over nudity or sex or anything like that, but the implication is so strong. Yeah. And it's so on the edge. And she's like, okay, yeah. A couple of years away from when this gets really graphic and he was ready to be there. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, cool. I'm glad. Would you watch this on? I was a prime. Oh, cool.

[13:01:45:17 - 13:01:52:20]
Speaker 2
 Okay, I'm going to talk with you guys about a film that you guys have seen. And I disagree 100%.

[13:01:54:00 - 13:01:56:23]
Speaker 2
 Oh, I think I know which one. I was 28 years later.

[13:01:58:02 - 13:02:07:23]
Speaker 2
 Sure. And I don't know if it's my least favorite of the three, but definitely not as good as 28 weeks later.

[13:02:09:02 - 13:02:18:18]
Speaker 2
 And I liked the first half of it. I was really liking it a lot until it went into basically the bone.

[13:02:20:00 - 13:02:20:11]
Speaker 2
 Okay, sorry.

[13:02:22:00 - 13:02:25:13]
Speaker 2
 And that character who,

[13:02:27:13 - 13:02:45:00]
Speaker 2
 for whatever reason, was able to kind of stun the zombies, but had no intention on killing them. Because why would you want to stop one of these things that could possibly kill you at the end of the movie?

[13:02:47:19 - 13:03:16:08]
Speaker 2
 I thought it fell apart halfway through because I was really enjoying it. And I think I would really like to see more of that father-son thing going on. And once it switched to the mother-son story, I thought it was a good one. And I understand that they were opening up the world and giving us a look at what else was happening.

[13:03:18:09 - 13:03:26:07]
Speaker 2
 But I found myself wandering. My mind was not nearly as interested in the second half.

[13:03:26:07 - 13:03:39:02]
Speaker 1
 I think the exact reason you hated it is because it's like, okay, we could have done the typical end of the world, we're all battling to survive in this end of the world. But then it went,

[13:03:40:03 - 13:04:27:06]
Speaker 1
 this group of people is normal, normal as we might think of how society would be in that situation. While on the outskirts are people that are batshit crazy, who don't really, like the massive years of solitude, have worked the hell out of this guy or done strange things. And these are the little, and then the weird guys at the end, are the weird little compartments of insanity and dealing with the insanity of the world that would pop up in a world like 28 years later. That's, I think that's why I thought it was interesting because as good as the first part was, and it's really good, it's a story you've seen told a lot of times in a lot of movies.

[13:04:27:06 - 13:04:37:01]
Speaker 2
 That was, I guess that was part of my frustration with the film was, I like that second one so much, I was like, I need another 28.

[13:04:37:01 - 13:04:41:22]
Speaker 1
 That's okay, that's, I have, yeah, that I'm not going to disagree

[13:04:41:22 - 13:04:57:06]
Speaker 2
 with, like okay. Because then I went and re-watched 28 weeks, yeah 28 weeks later. Absolutely, skip months. Jesus Christ, this is such a strong film from start to finish. A lot of twists you didn't expect to see.

[13:04:58:08 - 13:05:11:12]
Speaker 2
 And then to watch this one after it, like, I get it, it's the original guys, it's their world and all that, but I liked what, because 28 weeks later is not Danny Boyle or.

[13:05:12:22 - 13:05:13:10]
Speaker 3
 Alex Brown.

[13:05:15:05 - 13:05:54:22]
Speaker 3
 That's interesting, yeah, I still haven't seen 28 weeks later, definitely need to. Yeah, but yeah, I don't, it's weird because I think Eric, I agree with you, like it was kind of interesting to see it go with different, pivot a different direction and see a little bit different element, but also the actor who placed the guy in the bone yard, I just was like, this guy's great. So I think that helped a lot for me because any squabbles I had about like, it would be weird for him to do this and why, instead I was like, I just was falling in love with like his portrayal. So that really helped the main thing that brought me out was just that it exists where I was like, is it 1990?

[13:05:57:09 - 13:05:59:02]
Speaker 1
 Danny's gone back to exactly.

[13:05:59:02 - 13:06:05:16]
Speaker 3
 Yes, it's here. Are we about to see surge pop out of the screen? Like what is going on? Like this is some filmmaking.

[13:06:05:16 - 13:06:23:08]
Speaker 2
 And there were a couple of things that I was like, I've never seen a tower of skulls before. That was interesting looking and a lot of stuff I thought was visually interesting, but I just found myself like going out.

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Speaker 3
 That's fair. That's very fair. Yeah, I mean, I have to admit, I don't have much to compare it to because I haven't even seen 28 days later.

[13:06:33:09 - 13:06:33:17]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[13:06:33:17 - 13:06:34:16]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[13:06:35:23 - 13:06:41:14]
Speaker 2
 So 20 years later is now available for free on I think HBO, which is not for free.

[13:06:41:14 - 13:06:46:00]
Speaker 1
 It's right. It's just. It's available for free if you're paying for it.

[13:06:46:00 - 13:06:49:05]
Speaker 3
 Specifically our pay. And so. The hit. Yes.

[13:06:50:12 - 13:06:54:09]
Speaker 3
 All right. Well, I finished a peacemaker. So I have a question.

[13:06:55:12 - 13:06:55:17]
Speaker 3
 Oh,

[13:06:57:06 - 13:06:58:07]
Speaker 3
 okay.

[13:06:59:11 - 13:07:22:00]
Speaker 3
 Okay. I really liked it. I knew where it was going to go. I think it did take a hot minute to get there. There was a couple episodes in there that I was like, this is kind of baggy. I'm not sure why we're spending an extra episode not going to the place we all know we're going to go to. But once his friends enter through the special door,

[13:07:23:11 - 13:07:30:14]
Speaker 3
 it just really picked up speed for me. I love judo master in. I thought he just just killed it.

[13:07:33:07 - 13:07:56:17]
Speaker 3
 Having forgetting her name. Harport come in and just be like immediately like, huh? There are a lot of certain things here and there are a lot of other certain things here. How the hell did you not notice thing this about this universe? Yeah, I was really just really enjoyed that. And yeah, I'm excited to see where it goes. I don't love the very, very, very ed clippinger, but.

[13:07:56:17 - 13:07:59:16]
Speaker 2
 Especially considering there's no season three.

[13:07:59:16 - 13:08:06:10]
Speaker 3
 I think that they're going to have something, but it won't be. It'll be called like whatever the detective agency is. Yeah.

[13:08:07:21 - 13:08:15:19]
Speaker 2
 I. I like that. Penultimate episode quite a bit. Real shocked to see the twist of the dad.

[13:08:15:19 - 13:08:17:22]
Speaker 3
 I know that I didn't expect.

[13:08:17:22 - 13:08:20:20]
Speaker 2
 That was pretty cool. I just thought it was like, oh, of course.

[13:08:22:10 - 13:08:25:04]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, about super, super good.

[13:08:26:04 - 13:08:29:05]
Speaker 2
 And then that final season or that final episode was.

[13:08:30:05 - 13:08:32:00]
Speaker 2
 A bit of a head scratcher for me.

[13:08:33:13 - 13:08:48:05]
Speaker 2
 I think James Gunn's strength is in making you love all these characters. So watching them all get that kind of happy ending. Don't very. Any was worth it, but it was a bit of a let down. Considering where that episode before ended.

[13:08:48:05 - 13:08:48:17]
Speaker 3
 Right.

[13:08:48:17 - 13:09:04:07]
Speaker 2
 Well, I thought, you know, I was just crossing my fingers. Like, please tell me they're just going to let GI robot into this Nazi world and close the door. And see how that goes or something. I thought we were going to get some kind of big action.

[13:09:05:07 - 13:09:08:18]
Speaker 2
 Blowout episode. And so then having them.

[13:09:11:20 - 13:09:14:19]
Speaker 2
 Experimenting and trying to figure out where all the doors lead.

[13:09:16:04 - 13:09:19:04]
Speaker 2
 It did get very like it should have been seasoned by itself.

[13:09:19:04 - 13:10:04:19]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it did feel very strange. I totally agree that that felt like there's so much big stuff happening in a short period of time. And I was very, very, very confused when they were like, oh, all this weird, horrible, evil stuff is going on behind doors with the government. We're going to start our own thing. We know what they're planning on doing. Let's stop it. And then they don't see that he's going to get kidnapped. And I thought they were like, oh, yeah, we're going to like be there and stop it and set him up. And yeah, like he's going to be on an earpiece while he's in the van. And I don't know. I was like, how you guys all knew what was happening. How did you not? This is so I felt like well weird student to this work. It was also

[13:10:04:19 - 13:10:15:04]
Speaker 2
 I mean, enough time must have passed. We didn't get to see to see Rick Flagg kind of go 180 on his characters of Superman.

[13:10:16:10 - 13:10:27:05]
Speaker 2
 And then also to see him like partying it up with Lex Luthor's henchmen and stuff like that. I was like, well, he's done a real changing character that I don't quite buy in one episode.

[13:10:27:05 - 13:10:55:09]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, and it's very weird because I think that from what I heard, I haven't listened to the podcast or edit where James Gunn was explaining his stuff. But I believe he was going on about how Rick Flagg is still a good guy or I don't know. I don't see that I don't fully grasp. I don't think Rick Flagg is at all remotely a likable character at this point. So I agree. Yeah. And so, yeah, really strong, but with some weird stuff right there.

[13:10:55:09 - 13:11:10:12]
Speaker 2
 I'd like to show the new series is Lanterns. I'd like to see some kind of follow up to something in Lanterns to see that we're in the same world. And that they're kind of dealing with this whole salvation.

[13:11:10:12 - 13:11:22:13]
Speaker 3
 That would be really, really interesting. Because also the Lex Luthor thing was like, okay, where are we going with this guys? Because I know we're going to get another Superman movie and it'll probably be a very, very heavily.

[13:11:22:13 - 13:11:34:00]
Speaker 2
 This whole thing is based on the Salvation Run comic from the early 2000s. And Lex ends up on that planet also. So I'm curious how they're going to do all that.

[13:11:34:00 - 13:11:35:14]
Speaker 3
 They're going to have to hang out and be buddies.

[13:11:38:10 - 13:11:40:20]
Speaker 2
 Peacemaker on HBO, not for free.

[13:11:40:20 - 13:11:43:22]
Speaker 3
 Not for free. No, sir.

[13:11:46:10 - 13:11:50:13]
Speaker 1
 So I watched one that is, to say the least, controversial in its opinion.

[13:11:51:17 - 13:11:58:01]
Speaker 1
 This one gives him. Yeah. Which if you watch the trailer, it's a football horror film.

[13:11:58:01 - 13:11:58:12]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[13:11:58:12 - 13:12:03:06]
Speaker 1
 As you watch the movie, it is not really. Oh my God, it is not. It is.

[13:12:05:00 - 13:12:14:12]
Speaker 1
 But was that one Black Rainbow? Yeah. Mother almost. It is our house extreme.

[13:12:15:15 - 13:12:19:22]
Speaker 2
 That's why it's getting better. I think so. The horror fans are like, this is not what I was promised.

[13:12:19:22 - 13:12:32:09]
Speaker 1
 I mean, there's football in that. The new guy, the new hot prospect goes to the veterans place because they're on the same team

[13:12:33:09 - 13:12:34:12]
Speaker 1
 to train with him.

[13:12:35:17 - 13:12:41:18]
Speaker 1
 So there's some football training things, but it's a messed up training going on.

[13:12:42:18 - 13:12:49:15]
Speaker 1
 And the guy's house is the veteran. The vet's house is weird. It's,

[13:12:50:21 - 13:12:58:09]
Speaker 1
 that's, what was that one? The robot movie. That was so good with that as real artsy.

[13:13:00:06 - 13:13:04:19]
Speaker 1
 Where he goes to the guy's woods house. We have a little nowhere.

[13:13:05:23 - 13:13:06:10]
Speaker 1
 Upgrade.

[13:13:08:21 - 13:13:16:17]
Speaker 1
 Starts with an E, I think. Oh, that's not gonna. His house is sort of like that, but ramped up. It's even weirder and darker.

[13:13:20:00 - 13:13:32:03]
Speaker 1
 Marlon Wayans is, wow, chillest. And Tareep, the younger guy are so good in this. I, the more I sit, the more I get away from watching, the more I like it. Wow. It is crazy.

[13:13:34:21 - 13:13:57:16]
Speaker 1
 For me, I'm like, oh, sports movies and horror movies combined? Hey, I guess it's not that at all. I figured that out within like five minutes into the movie. I'm going, okay, this is going to be something very, very different. It's almost like a study of masculinity, the hyper masculinity, the

[13:14:00:08 - 13:14:19:22]
Speaker 1
 reaching the end of your peak, being a man with Marlon's characters nearing retirement. And then the crazy excesses of the amount of money that are involved in getting these people involved in football with a very weird esoteric ending involving that kind of stuff.

[13:14:20:23 - 13:14:29:00]
Speaker 1
 But you know me, I love this kind of weird shit. And the abstractness, the, it's not subtle. It's not like you watch,

[13:14:30:06 - 13:15:04:21]
Speaker 1
 well, Mother's a good example. Go, fuck, is this really about, I think it might be this. I think it might be that. It's pretty. As far as an art house movie goes, they're not playing fast and loose with what they're talking about. They are very obvious. Like there's lines when they're measuring the guy's stuff and, you know, don't want to take your underwear off. Are you hiding something small or alert to that effect? So they're not being subtle about it being masculinity and the other parts of that. And I just found it really interesting.

[13:15:04:21 - 13:15:14:16]
Speaker 3
 So with all the weird strangeness that's going on in this film, does it feel like it's weird with a purpose or is it being weird for the sake of being weird?

[13:15:14:16 - 13:15:46:05]
Speaker 1
 I hate weird for just being weird. Yeah. I didn't think it was. I think it's very much with a purpose. It's not, it's not a, there's a A to B storyline going on. There is something to follow of what they're going on about how he shows up and his family and the guy's saying, you're not going, you can't just do it for family. You gotta do it for yourself. And there's, like I said, it's not finding what they're trying to get across. It's just visually done very strange.

[13:15:47:08 - 13:15:54:20]
Speaker 1
 And with some weird violence, but not enough violence for a horror fan to go or something and nowhere near enough football.

[13:15:57:06 - 13:16:00:09]
Speaker 2
 What would you classify this film as?

[13:16:02:06 - 13:16:03:12]
Speaker 2
 It's not horror sports.

[13:16:03:12 - 13:16:37:17]
Speaker 1
 It's got, it's got, it has that it is kind of horror sports, but it's an art house version of horror sports. It's a fever dream version of like the idea of, and you watch a lot of sports. Like I do some of the things you think about is I kind of wonder what actually goes on in workout rooms when these monster human beings are lifting 300 pounds, 28 times and all this stuff that they, they do. And this pushes into that world, but then goes, it's not at all what you think in so much weird.

[13:16:37:17 - 13:16:46:02]
Speaker 3
 Do you think it like, to me, it sounds a little bit like men where you're in this very strange universe. Yeah.

[13:16:46:02 - 13:16:46:12]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[13:16:46:12 - 13:16:53:12]
Speaker 3
 And it doesn't really, I mean, it's not really a story so much as it's a lot of themes. Yeah.

[13:16:53:12 - 13:17:11:08]
Speaker 1
 It's an experience. It's not, yeah, you're right. It's not quite a story, but it's also a slice of life more than a three X structure and thing like that. Okay. Okay. The story is him getting to football and then the end is will he sign the contract or not?

[13:17:12:10 - 13:17:32:04]
Speaker 1
 So there's that aspect of it, but, but hey, people that hate it, I absolutely get it. If I didn't lean towards loving this weird, weird shit, I would have been really annoyed with this book because I was expecting a horror football film.

[13:17:32:04 - 13:17:34:14]
Speaker 3
 It's like Joker do or whatever.

[13:17:34:14 - 13:17:35:18]
Speaker 1
 I'm a little great. It was, yeah.

[13:17:37:09 - 13:17:39:09]
Speaker 3
 It's like, if you hate this, understandable.

[13:17:39:09 - 13:17:42:16]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. I mean, it's like a meta score on here. It's like 38.

[13:17:44:14 - 13:17:46:15]
Speaker 3
 People like, why did I pay money to say this?

[13:17:46:15 - 13:17:49:03]
Speaker 2
 What did you, did you see this in theater?

[13:17:50:15 - 13:17:52:02]
Speaker 1
 Because it was out of theaters.

[13:17:53:11 - 13:18:00:10]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it's basically because I remember thinking, oh, I really want to see this. And then around the time it came out, I was sick and just, I didn't get to it.

[13:18:00:10 - 13:18:08:07]
Speaker 1
 It almost seems like it was in theaters for maybe a week. Wow. So long it actually was, but it, it was, I think it popped up on rent. It's like, oh, okay.

[13:18:09:18 - 13:18:15:22]
Speaker 1
 And it wasn't the $20 rental. It was like the nine or $10 rent or whatever. So it's like, oh,

[13:18:15:22 - 13:18:17:22]
Speaker 3
 that's, yeah, that's a sign.

[13:18:17:22 - 13:18:21:11]
Speaker 1
 I enjoyed it, but this is not going to find a giant audience.

[13:18:22:21 - 13:18:23:05]
Speaker 2
 Okay.

[13:18:24:08 - 13:18:29:16]
Speaker 2
 Well, cool. How about we take a little break guys. And then when we come back, we are talking Lifetime movies.

[13:19:00:19 - 13:19:02:00]
Speaker 1
 She

[13:19:02:00 - 13:19:03:11]
Speaker 2
 just will send me.

[13:19:04:15 - 13:19:08:06]
Speaker 2
 Is this something we talked about or what is happening.

[13:19:11:12 - 13:19:12:11]
Speaker 2
 So putting your.

[13:19:18:11 - 13:19:18:20]
Speaker 2
 The matter.

[13:19:21:08 - 13:19:22:04]
Speaker 1
 So fine.

[13:19:32:10 - 13:19:36:16]
Speaker 1
 Upgraded my bag after the last flight. Oh yeah.

[13:19:42:11 - 13:19:59:10]
Speaker 1
 They've had one very weird thing about it where it looked like it had a lot of pockets, but it was actually just a lot of little elastic things that we dropped things in just went right to the bottom. This is not helpful at all. That's just been, you know, no big deal because I largely use it just for this.

[13:20:01:03 - 13:20:01:05]
Speaker 1
 But

[13:20:03:10 - 13:20:04:17]
Speaker 1
 getting another one.

[13:20:06:11 - 13:20:07:19]
Speaker 1
 And it's much, much.

[13:20:07:19 - 13:20:13:02]
Speaker 2
 Byers just sent me the link for his old theater in North Carolina.

[13:20:14:17 - 13:20:16:15]
Speaker 2
 Playing day of the dolphin on Wednesday.

[13:20:18:10 - 13:20:25:08]
Speaker 3
 So good. This is the year where day of the dolphin really takes on. It's gonna be a true.

[13:20:27:14 - 13:20:49:19]
Speaker 2
 What's his name? Daniel. Who does that forbidden futures that posted that. That story about the orcas are learning to talk and. I wrote follows. And he got back to me. He's like, Jesus Christ. He was I appreciate this. Nobody's gonna know what you're talking about. I didn't bring him buddy. If I get one person going, I get it. I'm happy.

[13:20:51:00 - 13:20:51:04]
Speaker 1
 Yes.

[13:20:53:10 - 13:20:58:15]
Speaker 1
 I'm happy. And I'm happy.

[13:20:58:15 - 13:21:10:23]
Speaker 2
 I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. So do this. The standard. Eric Vanessa Kelly way. And then Vanessa, did you know you have to. At the end of this. Oh,

[13:21:12:01 - 13:21:17:23]
Speaker 2
 I would let you think about it. I should have mentioned this early.

[13:21:22:10 - 13:21:24:06]
Speaker 2
 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I might want to talk about.

[13:21:26:22 - 13:21:28:23]
Speaker 2
 No.

[13:21:30:17 - 13:21:35:11]
Speaker 3
 Holy shit. We'll be in November.

[13:21:37:01 - 13:21:45:00]
Speaker 3
 Okay. Here's one. Cause I just, I saw a movie that I'd be fun to get into. But like arts and crafts.

[13:21:46:12 - 13:21:47:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[13:21:51:11 - 13:22:00:23]
Speaker 3
 I mean, I think that's not even a good topic. Anyway. Yeah. I would go with like. No idea. Well, I just wanted to talk about the paper house. Like, how could I.

[13:22:02:10 - 13:22:04:08]
Speaker 3
 Did you. Shit.

[13:22:04:08 - 13:22:11:02]
Speaker 1
 I can't remember if I did it. Or I, I, I watched her for my 100 movies last year. I don't know if I knew them as a sucker.

[13:22:11:02 - 13:22:18:00]
Speaker 3
 Okay. Well, I can check really quick. Cause if you did them. I mean, not that that's not even a good topic anyway.

[13:22:18:00 - 13:22:18:16]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[13:22:20:10 - 13:22:23:03]
Speaker 1
 I mean, I think it's the, I don't know. You're talking about like. Like child imaginations or nightmares.

[13:22:25:10 - 13:22:26:11]
Speaker 1
 I'm thinking of.

[13:22:26:11 - 13:22:27:23]
Speaker 3
 Dreaming. Yeah.

[13:22:29:05 - 13:22:32:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. You are. It doesn't look like it's been done.

[13:22:32:11 - 13:22:35:15]
Speaker 1
 I didn't. Wasn't sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[13:22:37:10 - 13:22:38:12]
Speaker 1
 I know.

[13:22:38:12 - 13:22:40:12]
Speaker 3
 Sometimes it's like, it gets really confusing.

[13:22:43:10 - 13:22:51:19]
Speaker 3
 Okay. We've probably done this topic before.

[13:22:51:19 - 13:22:53:00]
Speaker 1
 We've done.

[13:22:53:00 - 13:22:59:00]
Speaker 3
 Before. Yeah. Well, see dreaming. Dreaming.

[13:22:59:00 - 13:22:59:21]
Speaker 1
 Dreaming interfering reality.

[13:23:01:21 - 13:23:02:03]
Speaker 3
 Okay.

[13:23:03:17 - 13:23:03:22]
Speaker 1
 Oh.

[13:23:05:00 - 13:23:06:04]
Speaker 1
 Yes. We're going to do crafts.

[13:23:08:00 - 13:23:11:01]
Speaker 1
 Like witchcraft. No. Eric, talk me out of it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[13:23:11:01 - 13:23:12:16]
Speaker 3
 Okay. Okay. So Eric talked me out of it.

[13:23:12:16 - 13:23:17:08]
Speaker 1
 Strange travel. This subject.

[13:23:17:08 - 13:23:27:01]
Speaker 3
 See if only we did this every time. You guys wouldn't end up with the apps. That I tend to pass forward.

[13:23:27:01 - 13:23:29:23]
Speaker 2
 So.

[13:23:29:23 - 13:23:32:22]
Speaker 3
 Films with like dreaming or nightmares.

[13:23:32:22 - 13:23:36:09]
Speaker 2
 Okay.

[13:23:38:11 - 13:23:38:18]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[13:23:40:05 - 13:23:40:12]
Speaker 1
 Hold on.

[13:23:44:03 - 13:23:49:20]
Speaker 3
 All right. I'm good. I just had to write it down. So I didn't forget what I was going to do.

[13:23:51:21 - 13:23:52:08]
Speaker 3
 Good.

[13:23:54:15 - 13:23:55:08]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah.

[13:23:56:17 - 13:23:56:22]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[13:24:04:11 - 13:24:05:17]
Speaker 2
 I think so. Oh.

[13:24:07:00 - 13:24:07:14]
Speaker 2
 I didn't hear anything.

[13:24:08:14 - 13:24:21:00]
Speaker 2
 Who knows? There's also. You'll make both plays. Vanessa, you'll be very disappointed to know that. My vacuum now. When he vacuums. He doesn't make it back to the, so I'll just find him.

[13:24:22:10 - 13:24:23:11]
Speaker 2
 Peter was like.

[13:24:24:11 - 13:24:25:05]
Speaker 3
 He's suppressed.

[13:24:27:12 - 13:24:32:07]
Speaker 3
 He's. I failed at my one job.

[13:24:33:11 - 13:24:33:23]
Speaker 3
 He's not again.

[13:24:33:23 - 13:24:41:21]
Speaker 2
 I wish I could have done that. I had the same job as the one I did. So there's a lot of people that are going to miss it. But I just, I'm like, Oh my gosh. It's very sad. It's very sad. The place is small. I actually have a nice vacuum cleaner, but I love just pressing a button and coming home and the place. Yeah.

[13:24:41:21 - 13:24:50:09]
Speaker 3
 That is nice. It doesn't sound so horrible. It'd be nice to the, I don't know, I'm suddenly slightly interested.

[13:24:54:10 - 13:24:57:02]
Speaker 1
 I like a picture of Sorcerer's Apprentice.

[13:24:58:03 - 13:24:59:00]
Speaker 1
 So I'm in this chair.

[13:25:00:23 - 13:25:03:21]
Speaker 3
 So long as they got it cleaned by the time I'm home, I don't care. Okay.

[13:25:03:21 - 13:25:09:07]
Speaker 2
 All right, Eric, this was your subject. You pissed me. My subject. Lifetime movies.

[13:25:11:19 - 13:25:13:13]
Speaker 1
 Every once in a while you got to do something.

[13:25:14:20 - 13:25:15:08]
Speaker 2
 The piss off.

[13:25:15:08 - 13:25:17:08]
Speaker 1
 Different. Okay.

[13:25:19:10 - 13:25:19:13]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[13:25:20:16 - 13:25:25:03]
Speaker 2
 Okay. Three minutes.

[13:25:28:22 - 13:25:32:20]
Speaker 1
 Alrighty, so I'm talking about 1996 mother may I sleep with danger.

[13:25:34:11 - 13:25:37:21]
Speaker 1
 Directed by your hey Montesi who directed on four.

[13:25:39:07 - 13:25:42:02]
Speaker 1
 And five episodes of total recall 2070.

[13:25:43:09 - 13:25:44:23]
Speaker 1
 And two episodes of forever night.

[13:25:46:10 - 13:25:51:07]
Speaker 1
 And then I'm talking about like 75 directing credits. Read by Claire or Jacobs who actually wrote the book.

[13:25:52:12 - 13:26:01:15]
Speaker 1
 Edwards Edmund Stevens did the interpretation. He wrote blind witness night of the hunter and the fish that saved Pittsburgh. Oh boy.

[13:26:02:23 - 13:26:05:08]
Speaker 2
 I did the hunter though. Yeah, that's.

[13:26:05:08 - 13:26:11:21]
Speaker 1
 I wonder if it's that one. Oh, the stars of course because it's lifetime movie Tori spelling.

[13:26:14:10 - 13:26:21:13]
Speaker 1
 I think we're in the 90s, 92 episodes of Beverly Hills six more in the revival. Scary movie to screen to calls of Cthulhu.

[13:26:22:17 - 13:26:33:22]
Speaker 1
 And daughter very slow. It's fine so much better. Right. I don't think so. No vision was in the. Yeah. That's right.

[13:26:38:10 - 13:26:47:10]
Speaker 1
 It's great. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it. I think I'll take it. I know what's in the book. If you look at it, if you look at the details. 902 1032 episodes of Jack and Jill. Todd Colc from fear Friday 13th part seven. Jason takes Manhattan.

[13:26:47:10 - 13:26:48:13]
Speaker 2
 No, that's eight.

[13:26:48:13 - 13:26:59:10]
Speaker 1
 Yes, it is eight. There's three little dashes there. So this the opening of the movie is a friggin 902.

[13:27:04:14 - 13:27:16:04]
Speaker 1
 And lady goes up to her house looking vaguely like Tori's going. And this creepy guy shows up right from the beginning. It's creepy because he's like holding a teddy bear for her like this. I got to a teddy bear.

[13:27:16:04 - 13:27:17:19]
 (Laughing)

[13:27:17:19 - 13:27:23:14]
Speaker 1
 And so he kills her. Sorry. I'm gonna run through this one kind of fast because there's a weird surprise to this movie.

[13:27:24:15 - 13:27:34:06]
Speaker 1
 Part of the Lifetime movie though, does seem to be casting actors that you always go, "Hey, what is that person in?" Like the mom, the teacher, the principal, everybody that shows up on.

[13:27:35:08 - 13:27:39:22]
Speaker 1
 This was based in Seattle, but it was 1996 because they call it, guess where it was shot?

[13:27:41:01 - 13:27:42:01]
Speaker 1
 Thank you. There you go.

[13:27:44:16 - 13:27:48:10]
Speaker 1
 So basically the overall of the stories, you've got this guy who sort of like,

[13:27:49:22 - 13:28:06:19]
Speaker 1
 feels like it might have led into the movie You, or the main series You. There's a lot of similarities to that idea. The red flags are so bad. Am I going, Jesus, it's time to fucking leave. I'm throwing shit around and all that stuff, like drop of a hat and being angry.

[13:28:06:19 - 13:28:08:00]
Speaker 3
 But he's so dreamy.

[13:28:08:00 - 13:28:11:15]
Speaker 1
 He is dreamy. And mom, mom, but mom figures it out.

[13:28:13:08 - 13:28:30:17]
Speaker 1
 And mom figures that out too, you know, save her daughter because he's up in a cabin where he's rented it. Messes with a car. It's all the tropes you'd expect. It's honestly a lot of fun. It's a fine Lifetime style movie doing exactly what it needs to, giving all the notes.

[13:28:32:00 - 13:28:37:11]
Speaker 1
 And I think it's probably one of the better Lifetime movies made.

[13:28:39:08 - 13:28:42:21]
Speaker 1
 However, in 2016, there was a remake.

[13:28:44:06 - 13:28:46:00]
Speaker 1
 This remake done by,

[13:28:47:14 - 13:28:49:08]
Speaker 1
 oh shit, what's his name?

[13:28:50:12 - 13:28:54:17]
Speaker 1
 Pull it up. He's a major actor. You'll all know him. You'll all not love him.

[13:28:55:21 - 13:29:00:17]
Speaker 1
 Mel Gibson. No, no, no. Well, in the world, "Gens Franco." Oh.

[13:29:01:18 - 13:29:06:21]
Speaker 1
 Remake by James Franco. But in this episode of the movies remake,

[13:29:08:09 - 13:29:09:21]
Speaker 1
 there are lesbian vampires.

[13:29:09:21 - 13:29:10:16]
Speaker 3
 What?

[13:29:12:08 - 13:29:12:16]
Speaker 1
 What the?

[13:29:15:02 - 13:29:15:04]
 (Laughing)

[13:29:15:04 - 13:29:16:09]
Speaker 1
 The soap.

[13:29:16:09 - 13:29:17:21]
Speaker 2
 Was that also a Lifetime?

[13:29:17:21 - 13:29:22:04]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, that is a made for TV. I don't know if it was official. I wish I had found that one.

[13:29:22:04 - 13:29:24:20]
Speaker 3
 Seriously, I think it is a Lifetime because I remember him.

[13:29:24:20 - 13:29:28:15]
Speaker 1
 Probably because they had a period where it was a Yeah, yeah.

[13:29:29:18 - 13:29:38:18]
Speaker 1
 And so it's opens up very similarly except it's two women. And the person is supposed to get killed just gets turned into a vampire.

[13:29:38:18 - 13:29:39:12]
Speaker 3
 Excellent.

[13:29:40:18 - 13:29:54:06]
Speaker 1
 I've been watching them. Oh, it's really poorly made film though. The execution is like, and then she goes out and it's like, oh, it's a lesbian gang. It's like five of them. Are they all? All women, all the engineers. Okay.

[13:29:55:15 - 13:29:59:15]
Speaker 1
 All outfitted by Hot Topic, I'm sure. Yeah, of course.

[13:30:01:10 - 13:30:16:00]
Speaker 1
 There's even sound like music from other vampire and it goes on here. And it's just, it's funny scenes. Like for some reason, one scene they're in a courtyard and they're running like crazy. They cut some belt to come back and they're walking in the same courtyard.

[13:30:19:20 - 13:30:26:00]
Speaker 1
 So I will wrap this up with, because no more need, she said, other than this was,

[13:30:27:08 - 13:30:31:08]
Speaker 1
 Tori Spelling's in it. She's the mom in this one. I was gonna ask, so she's the mom.

[13:30:31:08 - 13:30:35:13]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Who's asking her if she can sleep with danger?

[13:30:35:13 - 13:30:44:23]
Speaker 1
 She's not the, she's not the same character. She just plays the mom in this movie. Oh. She, but she, but she's not the, She's not the mother of the type.

[13:30:46:11 - 13:30:49:21]
Speaker 1
 No, she's the mother of the, and the titles make no sense, it either felt. Sorry.

[13:30:50:22 - 13:30:59:20]
Speaker 1
 But, and Ivan Sergi is back. He's not the you guy this time. He's a professor, college professor. But here's where the movie really gets up.

[13:31:01:00 - 13:31:08:22]
Speaker 1
 Remember what James Franco got in trouble for, right? Like his acting classes were saying he was over-sexualizing the things that were going on stage.

[13:31:10:04 - 13:31:13:01]
Speaker 1
 James character in this movie is an acting coach.

[13:31:14:02 - 13:31:15:11]
Speaker 1
 During production of Macbeth,

[13:31:17:00 - 13:31:47:09]
Speaker 1
 where in the auditions, there's a guy who auditioned and does a spectacular job, but then the meeting lady comes up and does an okay job, but he's like, woman Macbeth. And while she's talking, the woman who's the vampire, who's in the class comes up behind her and starts like molesting her on stage. Like, it's so uncomfortable. And then there's two or three scenes of him sitting in the audience watching his actors,

[13:31:48:16 - 13:31:55:16]
Speaker 1
 over-sexualizing the spec in ways I've gone, oh, in retrospect, this is so bad.

[13:31:56:20 - 13:31:57:23]
Speaker 2
 That's the truth, wants to go.

[13:31:57:23 - 13:32:17:00]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, yes, I want to get found. I want to get discovered. So if you want to watch either of them, go find another good vampire movie. There's thousands of them out here. Oh my God. There's even better lesbian vampire movies. True. Fauci or Fauci. Fauci.

[13:32:19:02 - 13:32:22:22]
Speaker 3
 Dr. Fauci. Multifaceted.

[13:32:25:00 - 13:32:26:23]
Speaker 2
 But that's where you want to go next.

[13:32:28:02 - 13:32:29:22]
Speaker 1
 No. I sure do.

[13:32:29:22 - 13:32:30:12]
Speaker 2
 I want to leave.

[13:32:30:12 - 13:32:31:23]
Speaker 3
 Oh, man.

[13:32:33:10 - 13:32:36:14]
Speaker 2
 Five minutes, do not overstake your fun. It's a broken subject.

[13:32:38:12 - 13:33:39:16]
Speaker 3
 I went with a film I'd actually seen before, just 2004's She's Too Young. I will say there's not necessarily the horror element you were looking for outside of The Big Ass, which I will explain later. This is directed by Tom McLaughlin, who has 40 credits, including Friday the 13th, part six, Jason Lives, and some of the Freddy series, also Date With an Angel, Sometimes They Come Back, and lots of TV movies. Starring Alexis, I don't know if it's Dina or Benzia. 28 credits, including Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist, Broken Flowers, Entourage, and 21 episodes of Invasion. Mike Irwin has 65 credits, including Everwood. He's a Hulk, he plays a teen Bruce Banner in Hulk and Jack, voice animated stuff. And Marcia Gay, Marcia Gay Harden, who is in Mystic River, The Mist, Fifty Shades of Grey, Newsroom.

[13:33:40:23 - 13:33:55:19]
Speaker 3
 We also get actors from the grass season in this. We have somebody who is in Roadhouse and Thunder Road, and also another actor who did Secret Life. It's like people who are vaguely recognizable, just like what Eryth was saying.

[13:33:56:21 - 13:34:13:05]
Speaker 3
 So, what? 14-year-old Hannah, a cello nerd, starts hanging out with her estranged friends, Becca and Dawn, who have become sexually active and immediately sneak her off to Jet Java, the cool place to drink coffee, surf the web, and hook up with boys.

[13:34:14:11 - 13:34:15:20]
Speaker 3
 Hannah has a crush on--

[13:34:15:20 - 13:34:15:22]
 (Laughing)

[13:34:15:22 - 13:34:16:13]
Speaker 3
 I told you.

[13:34:18:10 - 13:34:45:12]
Speaker 3
 Hannah has a crush on Nick Hartman, the most popular and sexually active boy in school. He asks her out and seems nice until their second date when he wants to do it, but she isn't ready. When he seems bummed out and he says, well, I'll just drive you home then, she agrees to go down on him. Little does she know, he's patient zero carrier for the big S, syphilis. Oh, for the sake of saying that. As to her friends call it-- Here, does this take place in 1896?

[13:34:45:12 - 13:34:46:15]
 (Laughing)

[13:34:46:15 - 13:34:48:11]
Speaker 3
 It is 2004.

[13:34:50:16 - 13:34:52:20]
Speaker 3
 Very of its time, clearly.

[13:34:53:23 - 13:34:59:03]
Speaker 3
 So, as her friends are calling it on their online chat group, definitely not A and Messenger,

[13:35:00:09 - 13:35:05:17]
Speaker 3
 Dawn discovers she has bumps in her mouth, goes to the school nurse, reveals she has had,

[13:35:07:00 - 13:36:32:05]
Speaker 3
 the one friend, so she has had sex with 20 guys, this girl's 14, and the public health officials get involved to discover this massive outbreak of STDs in this high school. Nick and Hannah break up, but she doesn't want, when she doesn't wanna do the group sex with him and his buddy, but she also realizes that she has bumps in her mouth too and goes to get tested. When her mom finds out, she goes ballistic and starts hounding the other parents, which makes Hannah and her mom social pariahs. So, will Hannah run away, causing her mom to go to a party to find her, but instead discover teens drinking and having a weird, huge orgy, then awkwardly leaving? Will Hannah discover her best friend, Tony, her sweet photographer, boy, Bestie, has a crush on her and actually should be the guy that she's with, then start kissing him only for him to say, "Hey, we don't have to have sex. "We can wait until we have time." And she gets all upset and goes off to that same party after her mom's already left and is tricked into going downstairs into a sex dungeon basement, almost gets raped, but then Tony shows up with his camera phone to take pictures of the guy threatening to download one. So, dude gives in, all while Nick, the original guy, watches from the sex dungeon and slowly starts taking it a little bit seriously. Will Dawn and her mom make up just for her little sister to sneak away upstairs and try on sexy T-shirt?

[13:36:33:07 - 13:36:38:21]
Speaker 3
 Only one way to find out. I saw this when I was living.

[13:36:40:09 - 13:36:57:12]
Speaker 3
 Oh my God, it's like pink lip gloss is sexualized, T-shirt, like long, extra long socks, that mean you don't see anything that these people are wearing is sexualized. Everything is sexualized and everything is like women, girls being sluts because they are just dancing.

[13:36:59:02 - 13:37:00:21]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, it's insane.

[13:37:02:03 - 13:37:12:16]
Speaker 3
 I saw this when I was in college in the UK because there was a VHS copy going around and everyone was just discovering how insane Lifetime original films were. And it had that kind of irony search.

[13:37:13:17 - 13:37:19:19]
Speaker 3
 It is actually a lot better than I remembered. It is super watchable and has some extremely,

[13:37:23:10 - 13:37:52:17]
Speaker 3
 extremely questionable concerns about our views. I was like, the massive group sex dungeon and then people watching orgies, it is out of control. There's shaky camera that cannot be stopped. I mean, this Java jet place, they make it look like the fucking club of, it's not. It's just literally people, they do sideways dead shots with people just typing away on the internet. Like, man, it's like, what is it, Central Perk gone crazy.

[13:37:54:15 - 13:38:15:14]
Speaker 3
 Not much trivia, sorry, I will wrap it up. The film soundtrack, which included two different raunchy rap songs was largely uncredited. Although the main background score was created by composer Mark Snow. And some iconic Nova Scotia buildings appear in the film, including Halifax West High School and the Stardust Motel. So there we go.

[13:38:17:08 - 13:38:23:09]
Speaker 2
 First of all, my high school was not this cool, but it wouldn't have mattered because I would not have been invited to the org.

[13:38:23:09 - 13:38:30:15]
Speaker 3
 Oh, everyone's invited the orgie. Let's be clear, there is not a teen in this entire town that is not at this orgie.

[13:38:30:15 - 13:38:37:14]
Speaker 1
 I did like your statement of sexually active guy. Like, well, yeah, that's all guys in high school.

[13:38:37:14 - 13:38:39:18]
Speaker 2
 I like the most popular.

[13:38:39:18 - 13:38:47:12]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, he's the most popular, but he's had sex with literally every single person. That is the best thing in the pocket.

[13:38:48:12 - 13:38:49:06]
Speaker 2
 That's how I word that.

[13:38:50:06 - 13:38:54:21]
Speaker 3
 I was like, good, I'm doing high school when I was in high school. So this is all very amusing to me.

[13:38:57:00 - 13:38:58:23]
Speaker 2
 You guys chose good movies.

[13:39:00:04 - 13:39:00:14]
Speaker 3
 Oh no.

[13:39:01:22 - 13:39:30:14]
Speaker 2
 I'm gonna give myself five minutes and talk about a little film called "Girl Missing" from 2015. Directed by Joel Soyson. Oh my God. Who directed the "Prophecy Uprising" and the "Prophecy Forsaken Children of the Corn Genesis." And he also wrote "Trick or Treat" written by Phil Fercasi. Wow. Who wrote "The Santa Pups" to "The Santa Pups" and is very highly regarded author of horror fiction. Check out his website for his books, one of which I published.

[13:39:32:17 - 13:39:50:06]
Speaker 2
 Starting at Kirsten Warren, lots of TV, but also roles in "13 Going on 30," "Divine Secrets of the Yahya Sisterhood" and "Independence Day." And Francesca Eastwood. She was an old, she was in "Juror 2." She was in "The Vault" and she is Clint Eastwood's daughter.

[13:39:51:15 - 13:40:01:06]
Speaker 2
 Federico Dordel is also in this. You might recognize him from "Duce Bigelow," your name Jigler, not my dead heir, or 666 beginning of the end.

[13:40:02:18 - 13:40:20:23]
Speaker 2
 Girl, let's see. Our story starts with some hunters in the woods and they're staring through their sights on their rifles at a big buck, but as they follow it, their sights land on a young girl who's filthy and wandering out in the snow all by herself. They call the police, of course, and the young girl is taken to the hospital, but she doesn't seem to remember anything that has happened to her.

[13:40:22:04 - 13:40:36:19]
Speaker 2
 Many years later, we meet our protagonist, Savannah, who we assume is the young girl from the opening scene all grown up. And she is told by her lawyer friend that they think they have discovered her identity finally. She has a long lost daughter of a billionaire family.

[13:40:36:19 - 13:40:37:10]
 (Laughing)

[13:40:37:10 - 13:40:43:17]
Speaker 2
 So she's brought back to the family estate where she meets her mom, who's a little wacky, and who has a new boy toy, husband,

[13:40:45:03 - 13:40:46:10]
Speaker 2
 Savannah's father, long dead.

[13:40:47:23 - 13:41:09:10]
Speaker 2
 These two are ridiculously horny for each other, which is kind of fun, but the new husband also seems to be pretty interested in Savannah. Yeah, there's a very uncomfortable scene where the new husband plays the old song, walk right in on piano, and the mom sings it very badly. Walk right in and sit right down, baby, baby, blah, blah, sha, right?

[13:41:10:15 - 13:41:15:23]
Speaker 2
 So whenever something just happens, I always wonder if the singing is bad on purpose.

[13:41:15:23 - 13:41:16:19]
 (Laughing)

[13:41:16:19 - 13:41:33:08]
Speaker 2
 Most of these actors are super talented, right? They can sing, they can act, they can do all that stuff. So when they don't, I'm like, is that on purpose? Or did they make this poor woman who can't sing sing on film? And it makes me super uncomfortable.

[13:41:34:13 - 13:41:34:14]
 (Laughing)

[13:41:34:14 - 13:41:59:23]
Speaker 2
 There is something mysterious going on at the house, you guys, because Savannah finds out that her father killed himself in the house, and mom is very upset about it. The mom is definitely trying to win her over by playing upon the fact that Savannah is an artist, and so she sets up this room and stuff like this that has the most light and all these paints so she can continue to paint. Please make yourself at home, this is your home.

[13:42:01:20 - 13:42:15:12]
Speaker 2
 Soon she has a vision or a dream about following a little girl into the sub-basement of this mansion, and the girl is supposedly the younger version of her. She's led to this strange room in the basement where she discovers a gigantic vault door.

[13:42:16:15 - 13:42:20:12]
Speaker 2
 She also is having dreams of clawing her way out of her own brain and style.

[13:42:22:05 - 13:42:26:17]
Speaker 2
 The mom's new husband, meanwhile, is a real fucking weirdo, and constantly seems like he's sitting on her.

[13:42:27:17 - 13:42:33:08]
Speaker 2
 And with a little digging, Savannah finds out that the new husband has been known to marry older women who die unexpectedly.

[13:42:34:18 - 13:42:39:16]
Speaker 2
 There's also a housekeeper maid who seems pretty suspicious, but then turns out to be okay in the end.

[13:42:40:17 - 13:42:56:05]
Speaker 2
 The movie is full of tropes like little lost girls, visions and dreams and stuff like that, and pretty soon the new husband is throwing Savannah into that big vault underneath the mansion. And the only way he's going to let her out is if she signs off on the will, that turns out leaves the entire family fortune to her.

[13:42:57:12 - 13:43:03:12]
Speaker 2
 Is the little girl actually Savannah? Or is Savannah seeing the ghost of the actual little girl?

[13:43:04:19 - 13:43:06:20]
Speaker 2
 I'm asking you guys because I couldn't...

[13:43:08:03 - 13:43:17:05]
Speaker 2
 Will Savannah finally take out the creepy new husband with a shovel to the throat? This question I do know the answer. It's a pretty great question.

[13:43:18:12 - 13:43:31:18]
Speaker 2
 Overall, the movie is kind of a dud. And I say this with all due respect to Philip, who I think is no lie, one of the greatest writers of our generation. Here he is hampered by the Hallmark movie format and quite honestly some very, very bad acting.

[13:43:32:22 - 13:43:35:17]
Speaker 2
 Francesca Eastwood, though fucking easy on the edge, guys.

[13:43:36:17 - 13:43:39:00]
Speaker 2
 Tagline, some secrets are best kept varied.

[13:43:40:08 - 13:43:42:02]
Speaker 2
 No trivia, but some reviews.

[13:43:43:06 - 13:43:53:17]
Speaker 2
 Also, another new summary gives it a rating of one out of 10 and says, "Really garbage movie. The movies is completely awful and boring. I tried to figure out what was happening most of the time.

[13:43:55:00 - 13:44:05:11]
Speaker 2
 The girl and especially the spouse acting all drunk and afraid to even explain anything. Like this movie has no interest whatsoever that can't even explain. So I give this one star." Wow.

[13:44:09:00 - 13:44:17:10]
Speaker 2
 Wow, what a waste of time, including the fran, the mane, blonde girl not looking into the camera much either. All of these sound like good things.

[13:44:19:11 - 13:44:45:10]
Speaker 2
 To even this out, MMM Marty or MMM Marty gives it a nine out of 10. It says, "We're watching. Mama and I decided to watch a random movie when we couldn't find anything on TV. I picked out a few and we gave this one a try. My expectations were somewhat low and even though I thought I figured out the plot early on, it held my attention the whole way through. It was so much better than I was expecting. I thought the acting was great. I liked it enough that I will probably watch it again at some point.

[13:44:46:22 - 13:45:03:13]
Speaker 3
 So, there you go. Wow. Yeah. What's the most compelling part of that entire film? To me it would be whether or not she's actually the daughter or if the daughter was killed and she's somehow been placed. That is the story that should be with that.

[13:45:05:00 - 13:45:07:01]
Speaker 2
 I was also losing Kristen's next.

[13:45:08:13 - 13:45:08:17]
 (Laughing)

[13:45:08:17 - 13:45:17:01]
Speaker 2
 There may have been an act at some point towards the end. And I just don't remember. Oh my God. I do not,

[13:45:18:04 - 13:45:25:03]
Speaker 2
 like I said, I love film's writing and I blame this poor film on Asia writing. Sure.

[13:45:25:03 - 13:45:29:18]
Speaker 3
 It's not. I mean, by the time it gets to filmmaking, the writers are kind of kicked out.

[13:45:29:18 - 13:45:42:21]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, of course. And the nepotism is strong in this. Francesca Eastwood is gorgeous and really bad. There's only one reason she is in film and that is because her dad writes.

[13:45:45:01 - 13:45:47:07]
Speaker 2
 Anyway, Eric, you fucking asshole.

[13:45:47:07 - 13:45:48:17]
 (Laughing)

[13:45:48:17 - 13:45:50:15]
Speaker 1
 I've been a while since I pulled that off.

[13:45:51:22 - 13:46:04:00]
Speaker 1
 Every once in a while, I've got to do the incredibly over the top violent film. But we did all month of those one. That was a lot.

[13:46:04:00 - 13:46:07:18]
Speaker 3
 The video nasty is, I actually do not need to ever repeat.

[13:46:07:18 - 13:46:11:15]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, it's too much. I am looking forward to watching Vanessa's film.

[13:46:11:15 - 13:46:14:17]
Speaker 3
 You should, it is insane. It is hilarious.

[13:46:16:10 - 13:46:23:19]
Speaker 3
 So please do. It is available on Shutter and on, no, it's not. It's on Tubi. Oh, wow. I think it's on Tubi and Amazon.

[13:46:25:05 - 13:46:27:13]
Speaker 2
 I think it's on Tubi. I have an episode down now.

[13:46:27:13 - 13:46:34:16]
Speaker 3
 I sure do. So I am going to go for films that have either dreaming or nightmares in them.

[13:46:34:16 - 13:46:36:17]
Speaker 2
 See, Eric, this is how you pick a subject.

[13:46:38:01 - 13:46:39:02]
Speaker 2
 I'm glad you signed it.

[13:46:40:12 - 13:46:47:11]
Speaker 1
 You should give me a little thank you on that one, man. Where this started out. It's true. It was a different place.

[13:46:47:11 - 13:46:53:07]
Speaker 3
 Eric did really edit my decision in a quite positive way. But I appreciate that.

[13:46:54:10 - 13:47:11:14]
Speaker 2
 Okay, this is the part where we say thanks to everybody out there who is watching, listening, of course, but also liking and sharing the posts when a new episode comes out, commenting under the episodes on the YouTube channel, commenting or discussing films with us on the Strange Eons Radio Talk page,

[13:47:12:18 - 13:47:15:12]
Speaker 2
 and especially donating money to the Goss.

[13:47:16:13 - 13:47:27:23]
Speaker 2
 Every penny you give us keeps this pirate ship afloat, right, so put a little wind in the sails and send some money this way if you feel like it. Vanessa. Yes. Where can they reach us?

[13:47:27:23 - 13:47:47:03]
Speaker 3
 Well, if they would like to contact us, they can reach us on the Strange Eons Radio Hot Lung, which is 253-237-4266. You can text, you can call, you can leave us a drunk dial, you can leave us a just breathe heavy into a cake.

[13:47:47:03 - 13:47:53:12]
Speaker 2
 If you don't get a Philip Procosi phone call being angry about this episode, then I'm very, very disappointed.

[13:47:53:12 - 13:48:01:06]
Speaker 3
 Absolutely. Feel free to join the conversation with your voice as well. So, you know, or suggestions, thoughts, ideas. We're lonely.

[13:48:01:06 - 13:48:01:23]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[13:48:01:23 - 13:48:02:04]
 (Laughing)

[13:48:03:10 - 13:48:07:15]
Speaker 1
 We only meet each other a little less than we used to, so, you know, we need these in between moments.

[13:48:07:15 - 13:48:16:00]
Speaker 3
 I only have a toddler to talk to. Please give me something. For the love of Christ, I've seen Frozen 2 like eight times this week.

[13:48:17:04 - 13:48:19:20]
Speaker 3
 I know all the words.

[13:48:21:00 - 13:48:21:00]
 (Laughing)

[13:48:21:00 - 13:48:21:16]
Speaker 3
 All of them.

[13:48:23:02 - 13:48:35:14]
Speaker 2
 All right, why don't we say thanks everybody, and we will see you in 14 short days. We are talking movies with dreams or nightmares in them. See you next time.

[13:48:39:14 - 13:48:48:10]
Speaker 3
 Last night, my daughter woke up at 2 a.m. I went in there and she was like sitting up. I think she was still asleep. She was like, Elmo, Elmo.

[13:48:49:15 - 13:48:49:16]
 (Laughing)

[13:48:49:16 - 13:49:11:11]
Speaker 3
 No, and she loves Elmo. She like, we have all this Elmo stuff, and there's an Elmo stuffy in her bed. I was like, don't worry, here's Elmo. She goes, no. And she snapped him. I was like, oh no. She's had a nightmare about Elmo. And so I was like, okay, Elmo's tossing out her. Elmo's not here. Elmo's gone. What else can you do?

[13:49:11:11 - 13:49:12:23]
Speaker 2
 Here's your porcelain frog.

[13:49:12:23 - 13:49:34:12]
Speaker 3
 It's porcelain frog. Yeah. So where's the, it's squishy. Oh, and there's-- It's squishy. Yeah, it's squishy. It's like a guac olive. No, it's from Michael's. It was like a squishy Halloween ornament. It's like half the size of her. And it's where she grounds the corner and she's looking at me. And she goes, I love you. I love you. I'm like, all right.

[13:49:34:12 - 13:49:35:07]
Speaker 1
 Well, Bob here.

[13:49:36:12 - 13:49:40:13]
Speaker 3
 She doesn't know what anything means. It is incredible. The things she says are like,

[13:49:41:23 - 13:49:45:17]
Speaker 3
 no. She says no so much. I'm like, you have no idea what the hell this means.

[13:49:45:17 - 13:49:48:00]
Speaker 2
 That's probably a good debate. That's a good debate.

[13:49:48:00 - 13:49:49:12]
Speaker 1
 That's supposed to be no a lot.

[13:49:49:12 - 13:50:07:10]
Speaker 3
 It's a little irritating. It's like, do you want this to eat? No. Do you want this to eat? No. Would you like to go to the park? No. Do you want to stay home? No. Do you want your shoes? No. Just testing boundaries. Well, once you start putting them on, then you know. Oh, actually, do you want this thing?

[13:50:08:20 - 13:50:10:17]
Speaker 3
 Anyway, I will stop talking about it. I did.

[13:50:12:10 - 13:50:12:15]
 (Laughing)

[13:50:13:21 - 13:50:14:09]
Speaker 1
 The world.

[13:50:15:11 - 13:50:19:22]
Speaker 1
 I mean, I have a large understanding. I was like, about. Yeah.

[13:50:19:22 - 13:50:21:12]
Speaker 2
 Or even a little understanding.

[13:50:22:21 - 13:50:27:16]
Speaker 3
 None of my friends do. So it's been really interesting trying to navigate conversations.

[13:50:28:22 - 13:50:31:15]
Speaker 1
 Why can't you go out on a moment's notice and do something?

[13:50:31:15 - 13:50:41:22]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I had my quote, B&A friends, who are people I worked with at Anyflix. We always watch like weird things together. They're always like, oh yeah, let's watch it though. Blah, blah, blah.