349 STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME!

349 STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME!

Vanessa has gone full nerd with her pick this episode, and the gang is wondering if time travel is this easy, why isn't everyone doing it?

Also discussed: Project Hail Mary, Ready or Not 2: Here I Come, Uranus Attacks!

Transcript

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Speaker 4
 Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration?

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Speaker 6
 Somewhere between science and superstition.

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Speaker 6
 We have such sights to show you.

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Speaker 2
 Strange Eons. Welcome to Strange Eons Radio. That is Eric over there. Hello. That is Vanessa over there. Hello. And I am Kelly. Guys, we're still figuring out our mic situation. This might sound different than last time or... Who knows? Who knows? But we'll dial it in eventually.

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Speaker 2
 You guys, I was just reading something. Literally, just reading something. I thought you might be interested. You guys were talking about boring shit, so I was already reading.

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Speaker 2
 Paramount is launching its own publishing imprint to extend its franchises into print and develop original IP that could feed back into the film and TV pipeline. Funny timing, considering the pre-Skydance regime sold major publisher Simon & Schuster.

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Speaker 2
 Wow.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 So that's interesting.

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Speaker 3
 It's going to be publishing like books, comics. That would...

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Speaker 2
 Well, they don't say books. They

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Speaker 2
 don't say comics. So I assume... Paramount is Star Trek, right? I assume we're going to get all of our Star Trek novels through a Paramount imprint now.

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Speaker 3
 I just don't get the point. Like, no one's even reading Star Trek novels.

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Speaker 2
 Money, power, control. It is... No one's even reading anymore. Did you see that... I think I sent you that Jason K. Pargan rant where he was talking about... He's a New York Times bestselling author, and there's this other New York Times bestselling author, and he goes, "What you don't know is that you can be on the New York Times bestselling list with 2,000 copies."

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Speaker 2
 That's how hard it is to get people to read. He's, you know, Stephen King, Lee Child. Those guys are bringing in people to read. But other people getting on that list, you know, if you've only sold a couple thousand copies, you might end up there. Which, frighteningly,

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Speaker 1
 rolls into another thing I was reading about a teacher,

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Speaker 1
 two or three teachers talking about who'd been teaching for at least 10 years, and about the change in reading abilities over the last 10 years and how it is just falling off a cliff, and they can't get

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Speaker 1
 kids to read. Well, I mean, you remember some of the books we'd read in high school, and some of the...

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Speaker 2
 But what else did we have to do? You lived in Podunk, and I lived in someplace not much better than Podunk, and we didn't have, you know, we had three journals.

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Speaker 5
 I was on an island.

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Speaker 2
 You were literally on an island.

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Speaker 5
 And I still didn't like reading.

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Speaker 2
 So books were basically the only way we could escape, you know? Yeah, a lot. We had three channels back then, and where I lived, we got one of them. So I read a lot.

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Speaker 1
 Oh, yeah, you're used to...

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Speaker 1
 You got three seconds to get my interest before I clip to the next TikToker.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, there's a lot of, like, parent TikToks I follow, and I always find it really baffling when people are like, "You got to read to your kids, like, you know, right before bedtime, pull out a book." I'm like, "My daughter makes me read, like, 20 fucking books a day to her."

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Speaker 5
 What, because you do?

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Speaker 3
 Like, I wish that I could only read one book a day to her.

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Speaker 1
 That's because you do, and you're instilling the love in her to do it, as opposed to people who just don't ever read to their kids. Yeah, that's... My parents did the same thing. Every night they read to me, and I still read constantly. Love reading.

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Speaker 3
 It's just baffling to me. Like, I'm like, "What else do you do with your kid all day?" Like, that would be so boring if you didn't at least read them a little bit.

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Speaker 1
 They watch Frozen even more than you.

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Speaker 3
 Speaking of what I left my daughter doing today before I got in the car.

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Speaker 1
 So we're basically saying your idea sounds like "Fair enough to take something a little weird."

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Speaker 5
 Why on earth?

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Speaker 1
 Well, they're a target audience for Star Trek, though.

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Speaker 2
 Well, I imagine that that's going to be a big part, but they actually said in there that they were also going to be trying IP that would then funnel back into the film and TV market. So, you know, picking up novels that maybe they think they can adapt.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. I just feel like Paramount doesn't know what the fuck is...

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Speaker 1
 Well, yeah. The studios are now being run by bigger and bigger groups of people who don't really give two shits at all about the art, and just how to cash in on what is going to make me the money, which granted, that's what they were doing long ago as well. But they were at least willing to take some chances and say, "Okay, all right, we've got five movies coming out this year. One of them is Empire Strikes Back. That's going to make all our money for the year. So maybe we'll take a risk on these... Well, at that time, $2 million films and see what happens. And then you get stuff like we might be talking about in the future."

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Speaker 3
 I guess if you have the money and the ability, you know, to do it, I mean, Apple, it's like they can do all of Apple TV and lose money on it constantly. It doesn't matter because they're so wealthy. And Amazon, like I know people who work over there and they just finally, can finally close their gaming division. Thank God, because they have no idea what they're doing.

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Speaker 1
 Amazon was trying to make games?

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Speaker 3
 That was how I met my husband on a trailer for Amazon Games.

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Speaker 1
 Wow. I can tell how successful they were.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah. The first big flagship game launch, which was the trailer I was working, multiple trailers I was working on with them, huge colossal flop, that game, huge colossal flop. And then the next several also huge flops because they were, they didn't know what they were doing. They decided to make their own,

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Speaker 3
 I

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Speaker 3
 can't think of the right word, but developer tool set to craft games. So they were using what was called Lumberyard, which is an Amazon special rather than using

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Speaker 2
 proprietary tech.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, exactly. Like the, yeah, the, the go-to sets of things, some of which are free unity. If you just put unity at the end of your thing with a little stamp, you get to use it for free. So yeah, they just, and they were hiring people and firing people and they had no business doing it, but they're like, I don't know, maybe. And I just find it very frustrating when companies that don't have unlimited funds try to splash into new realms that are definitely not going to make them any kind of profit. There's no way they're going to make any money doing this. Is it just to like, fuck you, no one else can put out a Star Trek book. Like,

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Speaker 2
 well, I imagine there's some of that and there's some of, I don't know, there's got to be,

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Speaker 2
 I don't know what the answer is. I mean, letting go of Simon and Schuster and then deciding to make a publishing imprint seems like a real strange movie.

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Speaker 1
 It's like, oops, we shouldn't have done that. What can we, we don't want to buy them back. So what do we do? Right.

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Speaker 2
 Because we don't want to value them. Yeah, exactly. But you know, Paramount's always been kind of weird. I don't know if you were too young, but you probably remember at the beginning or end of all those Paramount movies, it was Paramount, a Gulf and Western company. Yeah. That was a fucking oil refinery corporation that don't Paramount back in the seventies.

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Speaker 3
 They only got it.

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Speaker 1
 And they were,

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Speaker 1
 took forever to bring Star Trek to video originally, which was really weird because the original Suncoast was Paramount was the name of the original Suncoast. So they were one of the creators of Suncoast, but then didn't want to put their flagship most popular item because they didn't want to eat into the television. Oh, wow. Stuff. But when they eventually did, they realized, oh shit. And suddenly a lot of dirty.

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Speaker 3
 Just nice money. You can just have extra money. That's, that's never a bad thing.

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Speaker 2
 I imagine we're going to have a lot of Star Trek talk this episode.

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Speaker 3
 You know what? I think we, I think we may. I think we may.

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Speaker 2
 All right. Let me talk about some movies I saw. I'm going to talk about a couple that kind of fit into each other. I saw ready or not to. Here I come.

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Speaker 3
 Oh, how is it?

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Speaker 2
 It's a blast. Literally a blast because if you remember after they try to kill somehow leaving, everybody explodes. Well now this takes place literally starts on the door, the doorstep and she gets taken to the hospital. And we are then told that this family she was part of, was part of a ring of families. And because that she killed everybody in it, she is now the head of that family, but it also opens up all the other heads to challenge her at this. And now she and her sister, who she hasn't seen in 10 years are being hunted by a bunch more people. And it's a, it's a real gore fest blast. I had so much fun with it. And also a huge flop.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah, it's too bad. I mean, that's the, yeah, that, that sounds amazing though. I thought it must just be, they tried to recreate the exact same movie or something as a sequel. That probably would have been a huge hit.

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Speaker 2
 She's getting married again. I mean, it's not the same stuff, but there's some really neat little tidbits thrown in there. Why can I never remember his name Frodo?

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Speaker 2
 Oh, I'm Sean.

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Speaker 1
 No, that's the other one.

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Speaker 2
 That's that's for the good. Elijah would shows up as the devil's lawyer. And so he is there with his law book, constantly letting them know that they can or they can't do what they're planning to do and things like that. And there's just a lot more fun in this. And I was like, wow, what a great sequel. And then I watched the box office just fucking tank.

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Speaker 3
 Well, I will try to see it. Maybe I'll try to see it tonight if I can make that work. Cause yes, I,

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Speaker 3
 I chose to watch a different film, but I'll, I'll talk about that at another time.

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Speaker 2
 Okay. Yes. Ready or not to here I come.

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Speaker 3
 Well, I managed to get out and see project hail Mary, which I'm a giant sci-fi nerd. And I was really worried that the trailer gave everything away and everyone was getting really irritated by how much I was irritated. So I

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Speaker 2
 read the book. Is that why you thought that?

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Speaker 3
 Oh, no, it's just like when you watch a trailer and you're like, that feels like that would have been a nice surprise or that feels like that character would have been a really cool reveal or that's a really neat special effect. You just kind of get these instinctual as somebody who makes trailers. I'm like, I really worried that if you give me too much information, I will work

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Speaker 5
 out the whole plot.

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Speaker 3
 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. As you guys know, and that is my least favorite way to go into a film. So I'd seen all three of the previous, like the big trailers and I was like, man, fuck, whatever. I don't care. I guess this movie, I already know what's going to happen. And I was so happy. I didn't. I really did not put together what that film was going to be, what it was about. And it was so much fun. I loved, there's really just kind of two characters in this film. Did either of you guys see this?

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Speaker 1
 I did. I saw it. I didn't say, I think I've read the book and now I've read a couple of his books.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. It's people love this book.

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Speaker 1
 He's a, he's a really cool writer.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. Even if he's a total tool as a human, he's apparently a real tool, but that's, that's okay. Yeah. He's got some weird quotes coming out lately. But yeah, I just, I absolutely adored this film and I loved, I mean, I don't hate Ryan Gosling. So it's not a big stretch for me to just sit through one of his meetings. I liked how much of a doofus they made him in this. Like very likable,

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Speaker 3
 super likable. Like he's talking to himself all the time and you know, you just get to hear that weird, you know, the weirdness of like, I'm in this situation. I don't know why these things are happening. I don't know what I'm going to do. And that really helps you be included as an audience member.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. I think, I think there's probably two really big twists in this movie. And one of them is the one that they decided to show in the trailer, which is the alien. But after watching the movie, you had to know, like nobody is going to be able to keep quiet about this fucking alien. So let's just put that out now. Yeah. He's too adorable of a character.

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Speaker 5
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 And then the other twist they have kept from everybody. And I thought that that was the more powerful twist towards the end. And yeah, I thought it was really, really good. I like Ryan Gosling a lot. It bums me out to know that he probably fucks babies and eats children and drinks blood like every fucking person in Hollywood and politics apparently does.

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Speaker 3
 Oh God. I think I missed any Ryan Gosling backlash. All I've heard is he's a good dude. Yeah, that's all I've heard too.

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Speaker 2
 But, but we know that's not the case. It can't possibly be.

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Speaker 3
 None of them ever really are. It's true.

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Speaker 1
 You're sending them in cynicism. Impressive.

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Speaker 3
 I know. He's going to say even the people that you have heard the absolutely nothing terrible about, you're like, you're probably awful. You're probably an awful person.

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Speaker 2
 It's going to save me the heartache of all you Joss Whedon fans when you found out.

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Speaker 3
 Oh my God. That was hard. That was a really tough week. I'm not going to lie. I thought really, that really hit.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah.

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Speaker 1
 So I think we can land somewhere in the middle of the day thinking they're all wonderful people to worship. There's a middle ground that can be found.

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Speaker 3
 I think he's probably like kind of dummy. Like he's probably a dumb dumb in real life, which I think is great. Like I love that he's, I mean, just like when you found, when I found out Brad Pitt is like a total stoner and just like

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Speaker 1
 the true romance character was fairly accurate.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. And Jennifer Aniston would get really irritated cause he fart all the time in bed. I was like,

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Speaker 1
 Oh, there's a lady women who don't appreciate my family. She's not alone with that. There's a lady women who don't appreciate him that fart a lot.

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Speaker 3
 She was just the one who mentioned it. Uh, yeah. And you're like, Oh, I now I, that's all I can see when I see him show up as I'm like, yeah, you're just stoned out of your head most of the time.

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Speaker 2
 And a serial farter.

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Speaker 1
 Let's explain the eating a lot in the movies. I guess he eats a lot in films. If you watch, he's always like bunching on stuff.

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Speaker 3
 Very common. What movie he was in that he like mooned somebody like, and they, the police came right. I can't remember what it is, but

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Speaker 1
 Oh, not part of the movie, but on.

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Speaker 3
 No, no, no. On set. Yeah. He was like fucking around in the town and was like, you know, people.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah.

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Speaker 1
 Well, all right. Well, Peking, speaking of people who had an interesting recent time in the press, I watched Alan Richton's new film. Oh, yes. War Machine. Yeah. On Netflix.

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Speaker 1
 And he's saying you didn't see all the stuff with Alan on the press.

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Speaker 3
 I have missed something.

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Speaker 5
 Uh oh.

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Speaker 1
 He was riding his motorcycle around a neighborhood with his kids and some guy decided he needed to get press. I'm going to get seen a lot. So he released a thing that Alan had kicked his ass just for no real reason. And then like a day or two later, the body cam footage that Alan was wearing came out showing the guy walking out in front of his motorcycle, causing him to wreck. Oh, my God. And then continuing to yell and berate and stuff until he kicked the shit out of it. I mean, he did it, but he he did it the right way, kicked him around a little bit and then got on his back. You're done.

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Speaker 2
 Fell over.

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Speaker 1
 I don't need to continue to beat you into submission. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2
 a lot of the complaining of that was he's riding back and forth on, you know, around the block and everything. And then you see the video. There's 500 feet between every house on this block. This is a very wealthy neighborhood. I'm like, oh, come on, the guy can ride his fucking motorcycle around.

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Speaker 1
 And he was when he first showed his drive, he was doing like 24.

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Speaker 1
 I don't know if he'd started to slow down yet, but they weren't. I don't think they're going 80 miles around.

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Speaker 3
 Did he have his kids on the bike with him?

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Speaker 2
 He had his kids on their own bikes.

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Speaker 5
 Oh, OK. Gotcha. Well, then, of course, you're like your parent and you're trying to show your kids how to ride a little bit and try to do it in the same

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Speaker 1
 spot before. I didn't know he was bullshit. You didn't know who he was.

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Speaker 3
 Incredible. I can't believe Alan Richardson rides around on his motorcycle with a body camera. That's incredible.

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Speaker 1
 But anyways, the film is fun. And it's not. Have you seen it? It's not anything earth-shatteringly new, although I am surprised how little mech

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Speaker 1
 type creatures outside of Japanese films have been used.

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Speaker 1
 They're so huge in certain areas, like in anime and gaming and all that stuff. But they're very rarely used in film. So I thought that was kind of neat to see.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, it's the story of a ranger patrol out on their final training before they become rangers. And then the thing that they think is going to happen doesn't happen because an actual alien invasion happens. And so they're like, Jesus Christ. They went all out on this piece of wreckage we found and all this shit. And then it starts killing them. I was really surprised at how gory the kills were. The fucking alien was pretty ruthless. And then it got kind of

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Speaker 1
 dumb, but it was still fun. It was fun. It got very, very cliche.

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Speaker 1
 I've heard Predator as a comparison a few times, which creature-wise is way off. But concept is similar or like the later Predator movies. But

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Speaker 1
 yeah, it's fun. It does what it needs to do and nothing more. So as an Alan Richton fan, it was worth it.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, I'll definitely check it out.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, straight to Netflix and left open for War Machine 2. Oh, yeah, just a little bit. Yep, I thought it was OK, too.

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Speaker 2
 Well then, maybe I should ask you before I say this because it sounded like maybe you were going to talk about They Will Kill You.

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Speaker 5
 No.

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Speaker 2
 Oh, OK. Well, I saw They Will Kill You. You saw the two movies that I did not see. Surprisingly similar to Ready or Not To. I

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Speaker 1
 thought, man, you're looking at the posters even and going, man, this looks a lot like.

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Speaker 2
 So this is about a young woman who takes a

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Speaker 2
 servant or a maid, old-fashioned maid style situation at a very hoity-toity. Looks like it's a hotel that's been converted into old-style condominiums because the residents are there full time. But it's very hotel looking. And turns out that she has been hired to be their next sacrifice. And this building is basically a

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Speaker 2
 satanic

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Speaker 2
 cult. Everybody in the building is in on this. And it started out at first. I was like, hmm. And then the satanic stuff started kicking in. I was like, whoo.

[01:18:57:10 - 01:19:14:20]
Speaker 2
 And then it got kind of, again. It's not as good as Ready or Not, but it's still a lot of fun. I just thought that somebody involved in it should have said, we're going to release this one week after this other one. Maybe we push this out till Christmas or something like that.

[01:19:14:20 - 01:19:20:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. The timing does feel very weird. I can't imagine that it's doing financially great.

[01:19:20:05 - 01:19:21:21]
Speaker 2
 No, it is also a huge flop.

[01:19:23:04 - 01:19:27:01]
Speaker 2
 For whatever reason, horror, not hidden. The bride. Yes.

[01:19:27:01 - 01:19:30:13]
Speaker 1
 Last year was huge. This year is Bezel and Nia.

[01:19:31:14 - 01:19:33:14]
Speaker 2
 Anyway, it's called They Will Kill You. Fun.

[01:19:34:18 - 01:19:43:07]
Speaker 3
 Well, since we are going to be talking more truck today, I just finished a giant graphic novel called It Rimes with

[01:19:44:13 - 01:19:59:16]
Speaker 3
 Takei. Sorry. I have to remember now because I've been mispronouncing George Takei's name forever and calling him George Takei. Now I know it's Takei because the whole idea is that it rhymes with gay.

[01:20:01:16 - 01:20:35:10]
Speaker 3
 That was something that he was... There was a little period of time in which teachers were not allowed to say "gay" or talk about LGBTQ issues in various states. He said, "Don't say the word gay. Just say Takei every time you mean gay." I was like, "All right." Yeah. Just a nice little boon he was throwing out there. It was really fascinating. It was really interesting to read about... Mostly it was about his closeted experience as a gay man who was also

[01:20:36:17 - 01:20:53:09]
Speaker 3
 an Asian American who was trying to make a Hollywood career and is already fighting the odds and therefore had to remain super closeted for as long as humanly possible until he finally came out just for gay rights issues,

[01:20:54:13 - 01:21:14:12]
Speaker 3
 the marriage rights that were coming out around the Supreme Court time. He finally was like, "You know what? If I lose my entire career, that's it. That's fine." He was also very politically aligned, so he had been helping a lot of different things like LA transportation and stuff. If he came out too early, he could bomb certain projects just with his name being attached.

[01:21:15:23 - 01:21:26:04]
Speaker 3
 It was interesting. It was cool to see like, "Okay, during Star Trek, you were dealing with these issues and you're sleeping with these dudes." He's very proud of who he sleeps with in this...

[01:21:27:14 - 01:21:28:11]
Speaker 1
 Check out this hottie.

[01:21:28:11 - 01:21:31:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, seriously. He's like, "We had a good night."

[01:21:32:10 - 01:21:35:05]
Speaker 3
 I bet you did. I bet you had a great time.

[01:21:36:23 - 01:21:38:02]
Speaker 3
 I probably

[01:21:39:14 - 01:21:42:06]
Speaker 3
 would enjoy something that's even more Star Trek based, but

[01:21:43:13 - 01:21:48:12]
Speaker 3
 it's neat to see that Nichelle Nichols

[01:21:49:18 - 01:22:15:11]
Speaker 3
 was near. He was gay long before he said he was gay, and they had to share a hotel one night because of missing a flight. He was like, "Okay, I'll sleep on the floor." She was like, "Just get in the fucking bed. I know nothing's going to happen." He was like, "Okay." I was like, "That's great." Then she ended up being part of his wedding party for when he got married too. Anyway, it was fun.

[01:22:15:11 - 01:22:16:16]
Speaker 1
 Can you say it's a graphic novel?

[01:22:16:16 - 01:22:30:15]
Speaker 3
 It's a graphic novel. It's about yea big. Yeah, yeah. I mean, a lot of these biography ones are like that. Then watching Star Trek right after that and being like, "Okay, I remember what you were up to during that bit."

[01:22:31:16 - 01:22:33:03]
Speaker 3
 That's kind of fun context.

[01:22:34:11 - 01:22:52:22]
Speaker 2
 I'm just going to say, I think I hate George Takei. Oh, really? I think he's one of the biggest fucking blowhards in Hollywood. I'm like, "You guys, just fucking do your job. I don't want to know your politics. I don't want to know your sexuality. I don't want to know anything. This is how we find out that you eat children and shit like this." I'm just like, "Fucking just do your jobs."

[01:22:52:22 - 01:23:10:01]
Speaker 3
 I think he felt ... I think it came out really big because he suppressed so much for so long. I think that's what happened. He just was like, "I can't talk about this. I can't do that. I can't step out of the line in all these ways. I have to be the perfect Asian."

[01:23:10:01 - 01:23:13:06]
Speaker 1
 It's not on screen. You can't be who you are on set. You can't be who you are

[01:23:13:06 - 01:23:40:13]
Speaker 2
 any place you go or anything you do. I don't even care about that, but just the constant. I was in an American labor camp for Asians during World War II. Oh, yeah. Japan had bombed us. We weren't sure what was going on. Really sorry. I think that that would have happened in any country. It's unfortunate, but it's just like, "All right, it happened. You then became a fucking actor. Everybody loves you."

[01:23:42:09 - 01:24:15:04]
Speaker 1
 How bad was it? To me, that's no different than Paul Newman writing biography. It's just his biography has to happen to have some incredibly dramatic sounding stuff, but every actor has written a biography about their shit and all the stuff they know. The only one I've ever read that was probably the way he'd written the way you would like was Tim Curry's. He talked nothing about personal stuff. He talked nothing about the women he dated. He talked nothing about the things that happened outside of the movies. He only talked about projects he worked on and the effects they had.

[01:24:15:04 - 01:24:35:00]
Speaker 2
 It's not even that. I don't mind personal stuff. What I get tired of from anyone, from any of you motherfuckers, is, "Oh my God, the world is so fucking hard." Yes. Yes, it is. For everybody on the fucking planet. Quit your fucking whining.

[01:24:35:00 - 01:24:37:16]
Speaker 1
 For the people it's not that hard to, but think it's really hard.

[01:24:37:16 - 01:24:54:16]
Speaker 2
 I have started to unfriend, author friends of mine because they're like, "I am exhausted today." Because of all the new stuff that's going on with our orange-skinned asshole leader, I am donating to this cause. I'm just like,

[01:24:56:09 - 01:25:06:07]
Speaker 2
 "Got it. I'm virtueing as loudly and clearly as I can. I get your signal. I don't want to hear it anymore." Fucking get on with your life.

[01:25:07:09 - 01:25:14:23]
Speaker 2
 Just fucking make your life and the lives of your friends, the people who actually count around you, make that count. Don't worry about the rest of this bullshit.

[01:25:14:23 - 01:25:23:13]
Speaker 3
 We're coming at it as not people who are necessarily extreme extroverts, who are extremely community minded.

[01:25:23:13 - 01:25:25:00]
Speaker 1
 Who live their lives publicly.

[01:25:27:05 - 01:25:33:12]
Speaker 3
 He's very focused on just ... I understand what you're saying. I really, really, really do because a lot of that,

[01:25:34:17 - 01:25:52:13]
Speaker 3
 "Oh my." It can start to grate when you're seeing this persona that he crafts and then just lived in that persona world for up until still now. He's living in this universe where that's probably not who he is either, this extreme version.

[01:25:52:13 - 01:25:55:07]
Speaker 2
 I understand that. We project an image.

[01:25:55:07 - 01:26:24:04]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I think that there's this certain level of fear of history repeating itself that causes one to ... I think that's why he's going on about the camps and that experience. Not because he necessarily needs to have everyone hear his story. Maybe that is. I think he's more the fear of like, "We're going to do it to anybody who we are afraid of. Are we going to throw Democrats into camps because they're now a terrorist group?"

[01:26:24:04 - 01:26:25:12]
Speaker 2
 Let's hope so.

[01:26:25:12 - 01:26:27:18]
Speaker 3
 Hey, wait a minute.

[01:26:27:18 - 01:26:29:20]
Speaker 2
 Democrats and Republicans.

[01:26:29:20 - 01:26:30:15]
Speaker 3
 Everybody.

[01:26:30:15 - 01:26:36:03]
Speaker 2
 Everybody who feels like their party is better than the other party, they're all wrong.

[01:26:37:06 - 01:26:37:15]
Speaker 2
 We are

[01:26:39:05 - 01:26:43:09]
Speaker 2
 ruled by corporations who sponsor both parties.

[01:26:43:09 - 01:26:52:06]
Speaker 3
 I agree more than you realize because I'm truly a libertarian at heart where I'm like, just let me live in the woods alone with my kind of

[01:26:54:04 - 01:26:54:04]
Speaker 3
 ...

[01:26:55:09 - 01:27:04:08]
Speaker 3
 You know this. I chock wood. I complained about how poorly other people chock wood. There is nothing more that speaks libertarian from the

[01:27:05:08 - 01:27:06:05]
Speaker 3
 top of rooftops.

[01:27:06:05 - 01:27:09:12]
Speaker 2
 Or, "George the Cat has national treasure." What'd you watch, man?

[01:27:09:12 - 01:27:10:10]
Speaker 3
 I didn't ...

[01:27:10:10 - 01:27:18:09]
Speaker 1
 Oh, well. Let me pull this right the fuck back down. I watched Uranus Attacks. No, yours does.

[01:27:20:07 - 01:27:27:00]
Speaker 1
 It is a comedy of a small town of Uranus that's been invaded by aliens.

[01:27:28:22 - 01:27:31:23]
Speaker 1
 And these aliens, guess how they take over your body?

[01:27:31:23 - 01:27:32:21]
Speaker 2
 Oh, no.

[01:27:32:21 - 01:27:35:16]
Speaker 3
 Is this a very recent movie?

[01:27:35:16 - 01:27:36:07]
Speaker 1
 24.

[01:27:36:07 - 01:27:37:09]
Speaker 5
 Okay.

[01:27:37:09 - 01:27:37:20]
Speaker 1
 It's

[01:27:39:10 - 01:27:47:03]
Speaker 1
 low budget. You're not fake. The weird part is, one of the weird twists of this film is,

[01:27:48:04 - 01:27:50:08]
Speaker 1
 Uranus is

[01:27:51:10 - 01:28:08:11]
Speaker 1
 a fudge store, a real fudge store in Virginia or something like that. I can't remember where it is. So they shot a whole bunch of this movie in Uranus. In Uranus' store where they're selling fudge and a whole lot more.

[01:28:08:11 - 01:28:08:23]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:28:08:23 - 01:28:15:20]
Speaker 1
 And so as they're doing their lines and stuff like that, you hear the door ring and the two of the people go, "Welcome to Uranus."

[01:28:16:20 - 01:28:36:11]
Speaker 1
 Oh my God. It's one of those movies where you're half an hour in and go, "Why the fuck am I still watching this movie?" And then you're done watching it a while later. It is so ridiculous, but it is absolutely aware of what it is. It is there are so, so many

[01:28:36:11 - 01:28:38:19]
Speaker 3
 butt jokes. I will never see this film.

[01:28:38:19 - 01:28:39:10]
Speaker 1
 You should not.

[01:28:39:10 - 01:28:44:03]
Speaker 2
 I would not advise to assure you. Is there anybody of note in this movie? No. No, no.

[01:28:44:03 - 01:28:49:17]
Speaker 1
 The guy who owns Uranus plays the mayor of Uranus.

[01:28:49:17 - 01:28:50:04]
Speaker 3
 Excellent.

[01:28:50:04 - 01:28:58:10]
Speaker 1
 Oh, wow. And the employees, I think there might be one actor they hired, one or two maybe, but most of them are employees of the store.

[01:28:58:10 - 01:29:00:10]
Speaker 5
 Is this all like a secret ad for people?

[01:29:00:10 - 01:29:16:20]
Speaker 1
 I was just going to say it's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is. It's an ad for this amazing looking store that looks like it's about the size of a Bass Pro Shop. I mean, it looks huge. And they sell all kinds of stuff. Of course, they focus on their fudge

[01:29:17:21 - 01:29:33:01]
Speaker 1
 and they figure out to take out the butt slug creatures. They need to make a lot of their salty balls fudge because the salt bakes it out. They get the people to eat the salty balls. This is oh, it's so dumb.

[01:29:34:06 - 01:30:02:03]
Speaker 1
 It's so dumb. I recommend this for no one. Hold on. If you're a fan of Monster, wait a second. It's not that funny, but it is in that realm. It is along the realms of Monster and some of the other films that are out there that are. Why does this exist? Well, I know why I like on IMDB. It's 163 ratings. It's an idea of how often it's been watched. It's like War Machine, I think, at 86,000.

[01:30:04:03 - 01:30:12:05]
Speaker 1
 But it was one of those. I don't remember what I was watching before, but it showed up on the below track. Rocker and Amazon gone.

[01:30:13:09 - 01:30:16:05]
Speaker 3
 Why not? Oh, my God.

[01:30:16:05 - 01:30:21:08]
Speaker 2
 Never saw Starman. Does not hesitate to press your ada's attention. Play.

[01:30:21:08 - 01:30:22:17]
Speaker 1
 That's right.

[01:30:22:17 - 01:30:26:05]
Speaker 3
 Look, Eric is a special friend of ours.

[01:30:27:22 - 01:30:31:19]
Speaker 3
 We appreciate you for many, many reasons. This is just one of them.

[01:30:33:15 - 01:30:38:06]
Speaker 2
 How about we take a little break. I will cool down.

[01:30:39:06 - 01:30:41:09]
Speaker 3
 Go for a run around the block.

[01:30:41:09 - 01:30:44:12]
Speaker 2
 And when we come back, we are talking about

[01:30:46:08 - 01:30:47:01]
Speaker 2
 more George the.

[01:30:47:01 - 01:30:59:01]
Speaker 1
 The

[01:30:59:01 - 01:31:13:21]
Speaker 4
 Star Trek USS Enterprise gift set with command chair console, three telescreen cards and five Star Trek action figures. Please, Mr. Spock or any Star Trek figure into the transporter room. Spin the control knob and press the button. Mr. Spock disappears.

[01:31:14:22 - 01:31:26:09]
Speaker 4
 Pretend he's left the deck of the Enterprise for outer space adventure. You can capture the Klingon and bring him back to the Enterprise. Star Trek USS Enterprise gift set. Star Trek action figures also sold separately by MeeGo.

[01:31:38:15 - 01:31:41:11]
Speaker 2
 And we're back. Oh, yeah. I was like, wait a minute.

[01:31:41:11 - 01:31:43:07]
Speaker 5
 What is this to do?

[01:31:43:07 - 01:31:58:14]
Speaker 2
 We're continuing on this new kind of format who I don't know if this is a regular format from now on, but it's fun for now and we're all just picking a movie for the other two to watch. And then we will all talk about it. So, Vanessa, this was your pick and you picked

[01:31:58:14 - 01:32:01:12]
Speaker 3
 Star Trek for The Voyage Home.

[01:32:06:00 - 01:32:11:03]
Speaker 6
 Avoid the planet Earth at all costs. They're under the attack of an opening probe.

[01:32:12:07 - 01:32:14:18]
Speaker 6
 Notify all stations. Starfleet emergency, read alert.

[01:32:14:18 - 01:32:17:18]
Speaker 20
 Earth is on the edge of destruction.

[01:32:17:18 - 01:32:21:23]
Speaker 2
 We cannot survive unless a way can be found to respond to the probe.

[01:32:21:23 - 01:32:32:03]
Speaker 20
 The key to saving the future. Spock, you're talking about the end of every life on Earth? Can be found only in the past. We're going to attempt time travel. Sulu,

[01:32:33:18 - 01:32:34:07]
Speaker 20
 take us home.

[01:32:35:18 - 01:32:39:14]
Speaker 20
 These are the voyages of the crew of the Starship Enterprise.

[01:32:41:00 - 01:32:48:02]
Speaker 6
 Judging by the pollution content of the atmosphere, I believe we have arrived at the latter half of the 20th century. Stardate, 1986.

[01:32:48:02 - 01:32:53:04]
Speaker 20
 San Francisco. Our own world is waiting for us to save it. They have 24 hours.

[01:32:53:04 - 01:32:55:14]
Speaker 4
 Everybody remember where we parked. Break up.

[01:32:55:14 - 01:32:57:04]
Speaker 20
 To complete their mission.

[01:32:57:04 - 01:33:01:06]
Speaker 4
 You look like a cadet review. We will beam in tonight to collect the photons and beam out.

[01:33:01:06 - 01:33:06:21]
Speaker 20
 I want you all to be very careful without being discovered. We have an intruder. All right, who are you?

[01:33:06:21 - 01:33:12:12]
Speaker 4
 You're not exactly catching us at our best. That much is certain. This is an extremely primitive and paranoid culture.

[01:33:12:12 - 01:33:14:07]
Speaker 6
 What does it mean, exact change?

[01:33:14:07 - 01:33:23:01]
Speaker 4
 Many of their customs will doubtless take us by surprise. We're ready for beam out. My transporter power is down to minimal. I've got to bring him one at a time.

[01:33:23:01 - 01:33:24:12]
Speaker 20
 You're from outer space.

[01:33:24:12 - 01:33:28:22]
Speaker 4
 No, I'm from Iowa. I'm from the hoverspace. Let's do our job and get out of here. Freeze!

[01:33:30:01 - 01:33:32:10]
Speaker 4
 Tech off, can you hear me? Freeze!

[01:33:36:20 - 01:33:38:11]
Speaker 4
 I've lost him. Who are you?

[01:33:41:13 - 01:33:42:06]
Speaker 4
 Admiral Clark!

[01:33:44:13 - 01:33:49:05]
Speaker 4
 I'm coming with you. You can't. Our next stop is the 23rd century. Full power now, sir.

[01:33:51:00 - 01:33:54:12]
Speaker 6
 Shields at maximum. Steady. Hold on tight, Lassie.

[01:33:56:00 - 01:33:58:16]
Speaker 6
 Can we make breakaway speed? That's all I can give you!

[01:33:59:21 - 01:34:00:11]
Speaker 6
 Whoop 8.

[01:34:04:12 - 01:34:05:14]
Speaker 20
 Whoop 9.

[01:34:06:21 - 01:34:07:09]
Speaker 20
 Now.

[01:34:09:10 - 01:34:12:02]
Speaker 20
 Star Trek IV, The Voyage Home.

[01:34:13:16 - 01:34:37:13]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I'm so excited to talk about this with you guys. This was a beloved movie of mine growing up. I don't know if it's... This is caused... This is what caused me to become slightly obsessed with whales. Through a period of my life where I went to the library and got literally every videotape on whales, every book on whales. I had whale stuffed animals. I would visit the whales.

[01:34:38:15 - 01:35:01:21]
Speaker 3
 But... And by the way, if you're a fan of... If your kids or loved ones are a fan of whales and decide to watch whale oriented videos, it will just be whales being murdered in giant blood baths and cut open. That was the highlight of every single one of them and very upsetting as a kid. But anyway, that doesn't happen in this movie.

[01:35:01:21 - 01:35:02:21]
Speaker 2
 What about the island of whales?

[01:35:05:04 - 01:35:07:15]
Speaker 3
 Well, whales isn't an island.

[01:35:09:19 - 01:35:13:06]
Speaker 3
 I mean, I guess it's part of a larger island that is the United Kingdom.

[01:35:13:06 - 01:35:14:08]
Speaker 1
 It's a difference felling.

[01:35:14:08 - 01:35:14:23]
Speaker 2
 Listen,

[01:35:16:02 - 01:35:16:20]
Speaker 2
 I was just curious.

[01:35:18:03 - 01:35:18:15]
Speaker 3
 Sorry.

[01:35:20:18 - 01:35:41:03]
Speaker 3
 Anyway, so moving right along. This movie is directed by Leonard Nimoy. It came out in 1986. Nimoy has 14 directing credits, including "Three Men and a Little Baby" and an episode of "Night Gallery". It's written by six people, including Nimoy, and of course based on "Star Trek" by Gene Roddenberry. Starring,

[01:35:42:10 - 01:35:48:23]
Speaker 3
 I mean, you know, William Shatter, 259 credits, acting since he was a kid. He's super prolific.

[01:35:50:06 - 01:36:09:02]
Speaker 3
 He's been in "The Devil's Rain", "Kingdom of Spiders", TJ Hooker, Leonard Nimoy, 142 credits. He was in "Fringe". He was voiced in "Kingdom Hearts", the game. He did "Page Master", "Halloween Tree", one of my personal favorites. He was in "The Mission Impossible Show", which I did not know, and "Zombies of the Stratosphere".

[01:36:10:02 - 01:36:10:05]
Speaker 3
 I

[01:36:11:05 - 01:36:15:15]
Speaker 3
 know. DeForest Kelly, which I've seen him in "Night of the Lepus".

[01:36:17:04 - 01:36:50:03]
Speaker 3
 Incredible, incredible film. James Doohan, 91 credits, including 20 episodes of "The Bold and the Beautiful". He's in "Loaded Weapon", "Pretty Maid's All in a Row", "Pate in Place". 150 episodes of "Space Command" and 30 episodes of "Encounter". He was way more prolific in other shows than I had any realization of. George Takei, 254 credits, lots of voice work, lots and lots and lots of voice work, including "Star Wars". Oh my God. I assume he was in season two of "The Terror" because I don't remember him in season one.

[01:36:50:03 - 01:36:51:13]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, he's in season two.

[01:36:51:13 - 01:36:52:03]
Speaker 3
 Oh, okay.

[01:36:53:14 - 01:37:21:05]
Speaker 3
 Walter Koenig, 78 credits. He was in "Babylon 5", "Nichele Nichols", 70 credits, "Hero Snow Dogs", animated voices for "Spider-Man", "Gargoyles", "Buzz Lightyear Show". She starred off as a dancer. And a special guest appearance slash female romantic lead. Katherine Hicks, 65 credits. I knew her from "7th Heaven". But everyone else here knows her from "Child's Play". She was also in "Peggy Sue Got Married".

[01:37:22:09 - 01:37:41:15]
Speaker 3
 So, the story. In 2286, an enormous pro moves through space, sending out a strange signal and causing a power outage to every ship it passes. Which is like a bad power outage, like a year-on-life support and you better find a solve right now because you're going to run out of oxygen.

[01:37:41:15 - 01:37:48:19]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, those guys in the space station are definitely dead, right? You wouldn't have brought us in. Because the probe just keeps on going and then...

[01:37:50:11 - 01:37:54:18]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, you're like, "Well, nobody can get to them because nobody can get past the probe."

[01:37:54:18 - 01:38:07:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I don't know if anybody technically makes it out of all the ships that it goes past. Because that one ship is like, "We're going to make some sales out of something." "Where are they going to go with them sales, sir? Like, not Earth."

[01:38:07:11 - 01:38:15:22]
Speaker 2
 The probe is an interesting design. Yeah. Interestingly alien enough, kind of a red bull can with a little ping pong ball.

[01:38:15:22 - 01:38:17:04]
Speaker 3
 You have to buy ILM.

[01:38:17:04 - 01:38:25:07]
Speaker 1
 Dune. Very dune. The opening creatures that fold space. Oh. And the original dune that has a very similar...

[01:38:25:07 - 01:38:28:02]
Speaker 3
 It reminded me kind of of 2001. Yeah.

[01:38:28:02 - 01:38:28:12]
Speaker 1
 Oh, yeah.

[01:38:28:12 - 01:38:34:10]
Speaker 3
 In its own way. I think obviously the CGI is... I think it's pretty terrible personally, but

[01:38:35:15 - 01:38:39:20]
Speaker 3
 it's what it is. It's got this weird spinning ball underneath, but it's something. I don't know.

[01:38:39:20 - 01:38:44:07]
Speaker 1
 It's a huge, huge, huge probe. It was a lot of CGI or was it more practical?

[01:38:44:07 - 01:38:45:03]
Speaker 2
 No, it's practical.

[01:38:45:03 - 01:38:46:07]
Speaker 3
 Was the probe practical?

[01:38:46:07 - 01:38:48:09]
Speaker 1
 It's a little early for that, I think.

[01:38:48:09 - 01:38:59:17]
Speaker 3
 Well, the ball is... Well, how did ILM do a bunch of CGI? And as you saw when they go back in time, there's a whole CGI segment. Yes, yes, yes.

[01:39:00:21 - 01:39:02:01]
Speaker 1
 That's more what I would expect.

[01:39:02:01 - 01:39:12:18]
Speaker 2
 I think because the... You tried to look like... I think I had read somewhere that the probe was a model that they thought did not work, and then they just went and splashed flat black paint on it. Sure. So this is much better.

[01:39:12:18 - 01:39:24:01]
Speaker 3
 This is totally usable at this point. Yeah, it's interesting. I'm not totally sure. I don't know. There's... This is a weird movie. This is a very fucking weird movie,

[01:39:25:07 - 01:39:31:16]
Speaker 3
 but fun. So as it approaches Earth, it's disabling all the power grids and causing giant planetary storms,

[01:39:33:04 - 01:40:02:18]
Speaker 3
 including causing the sun to be clouded over, which will kill everybody. So they need a solve, but they can't do anything on it. They don't know what this probe is. They don't know what it wants. They can't communicate with it. And it's just kind of hovering outside of Earth. At the same time, on Vulcan, the officers of the USS Enterprise are living in kind of exile as Spock is recovering from his resurrection. They prepare to return to Earth to face their trial for actions from the previous movie. So see

[01:40:03:19 - 01:40:17:07]
Speaker 3
 Star Trek III for more. When they start to hitch their ride back to Earth, they discover the probe and find out the song is that of a whale, because they did the thing where you researched.

[01:40:17:07 - 01:40:18:21]
Speaker 1
 We gave it to Spock and Spock was...

[01:40:18:21 - 01:40:25:11]
Speaker 3
 I was shocked that Nichelle Nichols, like that O'Hara wasn't the one who was like, "Can we figure this one out?"

[01:40:25:11 - 01:40:26:22]
Speaker 1
 She's got teams for us as possible.

[01:40:26:22 - 01:40:45:08]
Speaker 2
 Can I just say, okay, so they've brought Spock back to Serak. Serak, who's been a friend of the Federation and in particular the Enterprise for a long time. And Serak doesn't say, "No need to take this shitty Klingon bird of prey home. We'll supply you with a Vulcan ship."

[01:40:45:08 - 01:40:48:20]
Speaker 3
 Right. That's true. Well, Serak's not on the planet. He's on Earth, isn't he?

[01:40:49:20 - 01:40:51:04]
Speaker 1
 There's a story reason for that.

[01:40:52:06 - 01:40:54:13]
Speaker 3
 That's true. They do need to have the bird of prey.

[01:40:54:13 - 01:40:58:02]
Speaker 2
 It does seem like they could have. Yes. It seems like...

[01:40:58:02 - 01:40:59:14]
Speaker 3
 Oh, no, it's very stupid.

[01:40:59:14 - 01:41:07:21]
Speaker 2
 I kind of figured out the... Because you said, "Thank you so much for bringing Spock back to Earth and beloved on our planet as well. Here's a ship." Here's a ship.

[01:41:07:21 - 01:41:17:06]
Speaker 1
 And we backtrack the technology of this Klingon device. And we put it on Earth on this one-of-a-kind... Because we're left with a crew

[01:41:17:06 - 01:41:29:16]
Speaker 2
 who can't read Klingon. Flying a Klingon ship, Scotty's saying, "I finally got the food dispenser to make something that tastes like a human will eat." I was like, "This is an awful lot of problem." Also, I did a full rewatch of the Star Trek II.

[01:41:29:16 - 01:41:31:16]
Speaker 3
 That's true. I was going to say, I didn't rewatch the rewatch.

[01:41:31:16 - 01:41:33:16]
Speaker 2
 There's no mention of the Klingon

[01:41:36:03 - 01:41:48:15]
Speaker 2
 prisoner they have at the end of Star Trek II. And I like to think that throughout this entire movie, he's still down there in the hole. They've just forgotten about him the entire time. He's like, "What's with all this water?"

[01:41:50:04 - 01:41:53:12]
Speaker 3
 I'm hearing sounds. What does this mean?

[01:41:53:12 - 01:41:54:06]
Speaker 1
 It kind of floats up.

[01:41:54:06 - 01:41:56:22]
Speaker 3
 Holy shit. We have a prisoner.

[01:41:58:04 - 01:42:18:05]
Speaker 3
 Dang. Dang. They also forgot about... Well, they didn't forget. They actually cut it out. And you guys probably came across this as well. I'm forgetting her name. The female Vulcan from III that's on the ship. And they leave her behind on Vulcan. There was a piece of the plot where she's pregnant with Spock's child.

[01:42:18:05 - 01:42:18:18]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:42:18:18 - 01:42:23:14]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, from his... I wanted to say Yom Kippur. That's correct.

[01:42:24:20 - 01:42:27:11]
Speaker 3
 From his special Vulcan coming of age time.

[01:42:27:11 - 01:42:29:04]
Speaker 2
 Savik, Lieutenant Savik.

[01:42:29:04 - 01:42:33:15]
Speaker 3
 Yes, Savik, thank you. Not at all like, "Sarik." Not at all confusing.

[01:42:34:22 - 01:42:40:15]
Speaker 3
 Very, very inventive, guys. So, yeah, there's a lot of interesting writing going on here.

[01:42:41:17 - 01:43:12:00]
Speaker 3
 When they arrive on Earth, they discover the probe and the song of the whale. But all the whales are extinct. And they can't just put out whale gibberish because that's not going to help them. The probe is having a conversation and they can't converse back. And they talk about how whales have been around long before people. So, the whale probe probably met whales before people were there. And it's come back to check in on them and there's no whales. This is a conundrum. So, what are they going to do? They're going to go back in time.

[01:43:13:04 - 01:43:25:23]
Speaker 3
 In a Klingon bird of prey. To the 1980s in San Francisco. It's amazing how quickly they come to this decision and how easy it is to pull off. It's like all you have to do is warp ten around a sun and you're back in time.

[01:43:25:23 - 01:43:44:01]
Speaker 2
 And this is my note. They are so cavalier about time travel. Why hasn't it been done by the Klingons to stop the Federation from doing this? Why hasn't everybody just decided to, anytime somebody dies, just I'm going to go back and change time and everything. Anybody with a ten warp ship?

[01:43:44:01 - 01:43:58:15]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. It's ten or ridiculous. It's crazy. It's crazy that this bucket of ship, it is not a nice ship, can go to warp ten in the first place around a sun and do. I was like, this is...

[01:43:58:15 - 01:44:12:21]
Speaker 1
 This is why nerd demon line is so annoying. You get this kind of talking thing. It's like, you know why they did it. I understand. It doesn't bother me. I know. Didn't they do that though in the original show? That were this origin for this...

[01:44:12:21 - 01:44:14:08]
Speaker 3
 I don't remember.

[01:44:15:10 - 01:44:28:15]
Speaker 2
 I think that's how they ended up in World War II. Yeah, they did the warp around the sun. So there is precedent for it. But I mean, if they try it twice and it works each time, what's to stop them from them saying, "We've figured out that."

[01:44:28:15 - 01:44:31:00]
Speaker 3
 It makes no sense. Yeah, it makes zero sense.

[01:44:31:00 - 01:44:34:19]
Speaker 1
 Let's go see where my glasses originally came from. I know.

[01:44:34:19 - 01:44:41:00]
Speaker 3
 Might as well, guys. We've got nothing else going on and we won't lose any time anyway. We'll be back right where we left off.

[01:44:42:04 - 01:45:03:16]
Speaker 3
 So while they return back, the ship is pretty messed up. They need to find nuclear materials in order to re-energize their spent dilithium crystals. They also need to be able to craft a one-inch thick poly glass to house the whales that they need to pick up because they decide the solve is to steal some whales and bring them back to the future and

[01:45:04:18 - 01:45:07:17]
Speaker 3
 find those whales. Along the way,

[01:45:08:22 - 01:45:13:16]
Speaker 3
 Spock, who has basically been reset into Vulcan standard mode,

[01:45:16:00 - 01:45:24:02]
Speaker 3
 is learning how to be himself again, learning how to take risks, learning how to do cursing, learning how to do gentle lying.

[01:45:25:17 - 01:45:27:18]
Speaker 2
 I kind of hate this writing.

[01:45:27:18 - 01:45:28:09]
Speaker 5
 Yeah.

[01:45:28:09 - 01:45:42:11]
Speaker 2
 That the Spock that is a Vulcan would still understand stuff like, "Why would I wear his shoes?" Those are some big shoes to fill. He's got a lot of dumb guys.

[01:45:42:11 - 01:45:45:23]
Speaker 3
 When I watched this as a kid, I thought he went back to a child-like brain.

[01:45:45:23 - 01:46:01:16]
Speaker 2
 But I don't like that. That's Harb Bennett's writing, where he's trying to come in and make Spock cute now with these kind of things. I'm like, "I think that we are getting how innocent he is without making him seem like an idiot."

[01:46:01:16 - 01:46:09:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. There's a lot of weird moments where it's like, "That's the thing that you're honing in on. That's the thing that's tripping you up."

[01:46:09:05 - 01:46:17:05]
Speaker 1
 I kind of enjoyed the swearing segment, where he couldn't figure out how to swear. But yeah, the other stuff was just like, "I like this way, but..."

[01:46:17:05 - 01:46:28:18]
Speaker 3
 No. I mean, as a kid, I loved all of this. The Spock being a fumbling, not normal Spock thing. I loved it. That was my joy. I was like, "We're all a fish out of water!

[01:46:28:18 - 01:46:29:14]
Speaker 5
 Oh my God!"

[01:46:29:14 - 01:46:32:11]
Speaker 1
 I love how you managed to say that and put a little...

[01:46:32:11 - 01:46:33:18]
Speaker 2
 It was a little fish out of water sound.

[01:46:35:09 - 01:46:36:19]
Speaker 3
 I only have so many voices, guys.

[01:46:38:22 - 01:46:56:19]
Speaker 3
 We get to see Spock use a Vulcan pinch to a dude on a bus who's being very... He's got a mohawk and he's playing his boom box and he's being irritating. He's like, "You need to be quiet." He's like, "No!" He goes, "Buh!" He passes out and then the whole bus erupts in cheers. Okay.

[01:46:56:19 - 01:47:00:20]
Speaker 2
 If you saw this in real life, with no context...

[01:47:00:20 - 01:47:01:13]
Speaker 3
 I'm very concerned.

[01:47:02:15 - 01:47:10:01]
Speaker 2
 That guy... Did you just kill that man? That was fucking assault. And everyone on the bus is like, "Yay!"

[01:47:10:01 - 01:47:11:19]
Speaker 3
 The 80s was a different time.

[01:47:11:19 - 01:47:15:19]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, there you go. It was a good kind of assault. Did you read much about that guy?

[01:47:15:19 - 01:47:16:14]
Speaker 3
 Yes.

[01:47:16:14 - 01:47:25:15]
Speaker 1
 He's almost like a Star Trek version of the sax player from Lost Boys. Yeah. He's got this weird cult following.

[01:47:25:15 - 01:47:36:15]
Speaker 3
 Oh, no. I didn't know about the cult following. I knew he was a producer who really, really wanted to be a part of it. And so he was like, "Yeah, I'll play this." And so he shaved his head.

[01:47:36:15 - 01:47:38:22]
Speaker 1
 Oh, he was in a punk band or something like that at once.

[01:47:38:22 - 01:47:40:23]
Speaker 2
 That song he's listening to is his dad.

[01:47:40:23 - 01:47:46:02]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, they made that for the movie. Yeah. Because I berate you!

[01:47:48:21 - 01:48:05:14]
Speaker 3
 Incredible writing. Absolutely. Fun stuff. So we get a lot of Kirk and Spock becoming this zany odd couple throughout the film, which I think works for the most part. It's pretty cute. Pretty fun. It's fun to see their relationship. It's always fun to see their relationship evolve.

[01:48:05:14 - 01:48:32:12]
Speaker 1
 One thing that coming out of that, that Why My Mama is like the original Star Trek a little more, is because everybody seemed to get along so well in The Next Generation. Oh. And she really loved the Nimoy and Spock. Yeah. Nimoy and Boeing and McCoy. Just the little... That they didn't all necessarily like each other all the time. But when it mattered, they all came together and did what needed to be done. Which, you know, probably a little more reality to that.

[01:48:32:12 - 01:48:44:02]
Speaker 3
 I think there is. And unfortunately, when you get that in The Next Gen, it's just sparkly. No one likes sparkly. Yeah. And it's like such a bummer. You're like, oh, this one guy does not fit in and everyone else is best used.

[01:48:44:02 - 01:48:57:09]
Speaker 1
 Because it feels like number one would annoy a lot of people. His character and some of the things he does would be the kind of thing that a lot of people would be like, great, him again. But yeah, I thought that was... I loved that in this. Yeah.

[01:48:57:09 - 01:49:05:13]
Speaker 3
 And it is really fun to watch McCoy be like, are we sure we need Spock here right now? Like, is she...

[01:49:06:15 - 01:49:12:04]
Speaker 3
 Get go. Like, should he be leaving the planet? And Kirk's like, yeah, yeah, he's part of the team. He's like, what?

[01:49:13:14 - 01:49:27:03]
Speaker 3
 His brain has been scrambled and he just reexisted now. Maybe he needs some time. And then him asking, like, so you died. What was that like? And him being like, I don't understand what we're talking about right now. Right.

[01:49:27:03 - 01:49:31:08]
Speaker 2
 Without you having experienced it, I could never have a conversation with you about it.

[01:49:32:13 - 01:49:33:15]
Speaker 1
 Well, why don't you just...

[01:49:34:23 - 01:49:40:16]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Really be... I mean, that's... I fucking love bones. Like, I love bones. But

[01:49:41:21 - 01:49:59:21]
Speaker 3
 we also get to watch the rest of the crew basically bumbling around San Francisco on their separate missions, trying to patch things together. I love watching Scotty go into that, like, poly plant and be like a professor and then just...

[01:49:59:21 - 01:50:00:18]
Speaker 1
 Get irritated.

[01:50:00:18 - 01:50:05:17]
Speaker 3
 Get irritated and then, you know, and then trying to talk to the computer. It's very cute.

[01:50:05:17 - 01:50:06:16]
Speaker 2
 Talking about... The mouth, yeah.

[01:50:06:16 - 01:50:11:10]
Speaker 3
 And then finally, he's like, I have to type. And then he instantly is incredible in a 1980s...

[01:50:11:10 - 01:50:15:02]
Speaker 1
 He's like... He's got this perfect thing, pulls it up, kind of, yeah. It's like, all right.

[01:50:15:02 - 01:50:28:05]
Speaker 3
 There's so much time breaking in this movie. I love that when he's like, I'm going to give this special chemical solution that's going to make this guy rich to create a...

[01:50:28:05 - 01:50:29:07]
Speaker 1
 Transparent aluminum?

[01:50:29:07 - 01:50:30:20]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, transparent aluminum.

[01:50:32:08 - 01:50:35:16]
Speaker 3
 And I can't remember... Is it McCoy who's with him who says...

[01:50:37:06 - 01:50:43:13]
Speaker 3
 Like, but he probably didn't invent this? He's like, how do we know? How do we know he didn't invent this? Maybe he did.

[01:50:43:13 - 01:51:11:18]
Speaker 1
 I was watching it, making up of this because I was like, I'm going to splurge. I bought like the first six movies used for 18 bucks. Okay. And they were very nice set. And I watched his go on and the writers like, well, I forgot which one. But he's saying, we decided he either do one or two things when you do a time travel movie, that you just ignore all the strange crap or you lean into it. It's like with the glasses. Is that a gift from McCoy? They will be again.

[01:51:13:06 - 01:51:20:03]
Speaker 1
 So we decided we just lean into it because we know there's no... There's always going to be problems. You can't do time travel without...

[01:51:20:03 - 01:51:33:09]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I don't think you can do it perfectly. I think that no matter what, as soon as you do time travel and you step off the curb, people are going to have things to say about it. So yeah, no, it's just a really interesting take on a lot of this.

[01:51:34:14 - 01:52:12:08]
Speaker 3
 So they discover Spock and Kirk discover a pair of whales are at a local aquarium, George and Gracie. It's not warm enough, but I have a George and Gracie exhibit tank top that I love to wear. Oh, that's so cool. So good. Dr. Gillian, who is basically the minder of the whales, is giving a group tour, which Kirk and Spock attend discussing whale facts and revealing that the whales will be released back into the open water soon, AKA tomorrow, and most likely hunted down by whalers to their horrific death. Glad they showed the video that traumatized me as a kid.

[01:52:12:08 - 01:52:16:16]
Speaker 1
 Oh, you know. For everybody. We're going to drop off some whales. Whales are going to... Where's that?

[01:52:18:00 - 01:52:24:19]
Speaker 3
 And also, I love that they go from San Francisco, by the way, to Alaska in like, I don't know, like an afternoon.

[01:52:24:19 - 01:52:25:20]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:52:25:20 - 01:52:32:19]
Speaker 3
 They're between like... Anyway, so Spock jumps into the pool. Mine melts with the whales. Discovered that Gracie... Spock, right.

[01:52:33:19 - 01:52:44:05]
Speaker 3
 My God. Discovered that Gracie is pregnant, which is why the whales are getting kicked out, because if a whale gives birth to a whale in captivity, it will most likely die.

[01:52:45:07 - 01:52:49:00]
Speaker 3
 They agree that they must steal these particular whales

[01:52:50:03 - 01:53:15:21]
Speaker 3
 with the help of Dr. Gillian, who is reluctant, and wrap up a lot of time-breaking antics, like healing random old ladies, leaving behind tech, inventing tech that wasn't there yet, and I guess straight up stealing whales and revealing themselves to a ship of some whalers. And I guess that's fine. I'm just breaking through here, but they arrived back on Earth just in time to release the whales and the probe fucks off.

[01:53:18:09 - 01:53:19:00]
Speaker 2
 You know, I

[01:53:20:04 - 01:53:27:18]
Speaker 2
 love the scene in the hospital. Yeah. It's fun. You know, you guys are savages and all this.

[01:53:29:15 - 01:53:41:03]
Speaker 2
 I hate that the way we get that scene is because Chekov trips himself up and falls off the boat and it's a savage. And nearly dies. I was like, we couldn't give him the

[01:53:42:15 - 01:53:46:15]
Speaker 2
 satisfaction of being pushed by somebody. He had to cause his own injury.

[01:53:46:15 - 01:53:51:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, or like just shot. Like, he could have just been shot. They should have shot him.

[01:53:51:03 - 01:54:16:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, that was actually I thought that was a really good plot point when the movie first came out while we're still in the middle of the Cold War with Russia. Here's this guy with a comically thick Russian accent on board of a nuclear vessel. Asking for the nuclear vessels. And so I was always a little bomb. Like somebody didn't like Chekov in this script. I don't know who it is.

[01:54:16:12 - 01:54:28:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah. It is like just a weirdly easy thing. And then you just get him like kind of, oh, no, it's scary. It's sad. He's in a hospital bed. He might die. We've got to get over there ASAP. Yeah.

[01:54:28:06 - 01:54:30:22]
Speaker 1
 He probably is great in that though. Yeah. This is the stuff he does.

[01:54:32:02 - 01:54:32:23]
Speaker 1
 Dialysis.

[01:54:32:23 - 01:54:42:09]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. He's like, what? Why the fuck are you doing that here on this bill? And then like on the way out, they're like, she grew into it. Yeah.

[01:54:42:09 - 01:54:52:01]
Speaker 2
 The doctor gave me a pill. I was like, this is a nice little wave moment. I just heard the background. And I, so I really enjoyed that.

[01:54:53:06 - 01:54:55:09]
Speaker 2
 I enjoy the,

[01:54:56:18 - 01:55:31:09]
Speaker 2
 the whales, you know, traveling a thousand and more miles in a six hour trip and just automatically being targeted. They're like the first whale. So where's the ship? There's the plane. Whatever they transported at this point in Hollywood, Japan owns most of Hollywood. So there's no way they're sending those whales to Japan where they are still being fucking wailed. They're sending them up to Alaska where we don't do that anymore. So we are left to assume that as Russians that are doing that. And I was like, if we're going to make them the bad guys, how about

[01:55:32:16 - 01:55:48:02]
Speaker 2
 the ship suddenly comes clear. And we just take that big fucking Klingon nose and we land it right on top of the ship. And then we just push it underground there. And you know, one less whaler boat.

[01:55:48:02 - 01:55:58:12]
Speaker 3
 The fun, zany music and that one guy is just spinning the wheel over and over and over again. I'm like, you can't escape if you're just going to go into circles underneath a spaceship at sea.

[01:55:58:12 - 01:56:02:08]
Speaker 1
 It's not turning an ocean liner there. It's not a very big boat.

[01:56:02:08 - 01:56:06:05]
Speaker 3
 It's like, where are you going? You're just going to go round and round and round.

[01:56:06:05 - 01:56:20:08]
Speaker 1
 The comedy line that worked where I grew up for reasons you wouldn't understand. The biggest laugh I remember getting was the LDS line. It's a little too much LDS. Yeah. It's still very well in little twin walls.

[01:56:20:08 - 01:56:22:07]
Speaker 5
 Oh my goodness.

[01:56:22:07 - 01:56:32:23]
Speaker 2
 But you know. Also, so then they now they've got however many tons of water and whale and they're still able to get to warp 10.

[01:56:32:23 - 01:56:37:04]
Speaker 3
 Which is weird because they're like struggling. They're like it's warp, you know, seven. Absolutely.

[01:56:37:04 - 01:56:38:10]
Speaker 1
 And we're there. It's like, well, what happened?

[01:56:38:10 - 01:56:42:20]
Speaker 3
 And then, yeah, because Spock uses thrusters and

[01:56:42:20 - 01:57:12:08]
Speaker 2
 they have done the math to arrive just after they left because, you know, story wise, they need to if they show up before any of this happens, they're going back on trial. Right. They haven't saved the world. Nobody knows that this probe is showing up. We just brought two whales. We kidnapped two fucking whales from the 20th century for funsies and dropped them off in water. Yeah. And then they don't get the credit. So they they timed their arrival perfectly.

[01:57:12:08 - 01:57:28:04]
Speaker 3
 They did. They did. I mean, it is really funny kind of watching that trial where they're like, we're letting everyone off except for Kirk. And what we're actually doing is giving doing him a huge favor by making him a captain again. And he gets to have a ship again. And you guys can all be his friends and his teammates.

[01:57:28:04 - 01:57:48:00]
Speaker 2
 Also, okay. So then we get the reveal at the end of it's the enterprise that they get again, right? It's the new enterprise. Well, I've done a rewatch of these films, right? So at the end of Star Trek three, the enterprise is fucking destroyed. They actually steal Star Trek or they steal the enterprise to go get Spock. And that's what they are on trial for, stealing a starship.

[01:57:49:16 - 01:58:08:15]
Speaker 2
 Are you going to tell me in the three months since the ship was destroyed and this movie has occurred, they have built a brand new enterprise? Amazing. That was just ready to be relaunched into space. It's like, is that why you wanted us to bring the enterprise back? Because you had a brand new one waiting for us.

[01:58:08:15 - 01:58:12:02]
Speaker 1
 You know how they have the food maker thing? They just have a job.

[01:58:12:02 - 01:58:16:00]
Speaker 2
 Just 3D printing out there in space.

[01:58:18:00 - 01:58:21:18]
Speaker 1
 So, yeah. What are you talking about? It took three months to 3D print that.

[01:58:21:18 - 01:58:24:15]
Speaker 3
 This film lives on audience chairs.

[01:58:24:15 - 01:58:27:20]
Speaker 2
 This film is still very, very satisfying.

[01:58:27:20 - 01:58:44:19]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. They know what's up. It makes zero sense. And I was actually confused because I was like, oh, the Excels here. Okay. And then I was like, wait, are they just showing the enterprise for fun? I didn't even dawn on me that they're actually getting the enterprise, which makes way more sense.

[01:58:46:14 - 01:58:49:00]
Speaker 3
 I was like, what is happening?

[01:58:49:00 - 01:58:52:03]
Speaker 2
 Especially when we go into part five and they are in the enterprise.

[01:58:52:03 - 01:58:53:08]
Speaker 3
 Indeed. Indeed.

[01:58:53:08 - 01:58:58:03]
Speaker 1
 What does God need with a starship?

[01:58:58:03 - 01:59:15:09]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. And it is kind of interesting. I don't know. I do think personally the ending is the pre-ending ending is a little anti-climactic when the ship crashes into the water and everyone gets out and Kirk is like, I've got to save the day.

[01:59:15:09 - 01:59:16:06]
Speaker 2
 It's got to be Kirk.

[01:59:16:06 - 01:59:25:15]
Speaker 3
 I'm going to risk my life. Poor aging Kirk. And then he goes down there in the water. He's got to pull a lever and it's a little hard.

[01:59:27:12 - 01:59:32:08]
Speaker 3
 This is what we're resting the entire dramatic conclusion on is this lever that you get go.

[01:59:33:20 - 01:59:35:19]
Speaker 3
 Okay.

[01:59:37:02 - 01:59:47:03]
Speaker 3
 And the whales are free and then they're like, whales, you should call out. Why aren't you saying anything? And it's like, they don't, they have to hear the message first and then they can respond. Give them the sack.

[01:59:47:03 - 02:00:02:18]
Speaker 2
 So the water has got to be so different than the water they were just in, right? We've got 300 years difference in whatever is in our water. And what's in there? And they, probably a little bit of shock. Why couldn't we give that scene to Sulu to go in the water? He's done nothing in the entire fucking movie.

[02:00:02:18 - 02:00:03:11]
Speaker 3
 He does nothing in this movie.

[02:00:03:11 - 02:00:14:16]
Speaker 2
 He has like three lines. If there had been a throwaway line on Vulcan about how he misses swimming every day and all that. And then we give him the moment at the end to unlock the item.

[02:00:14:16 - 02:00:21:02]
Speaker 3
 Something. It was really weird to me. It'd be like, okay, we've got to see Kirk and it has to be Kirk who saves the day.

[02:00:21:02 - 02:00:25:19]
Speaker 2
 It made me wonder, I was like, did we have shattered the man that he is the one who goes down?

[02:00:25:19 - 02:00:36:20]
Speaker 3
 I bet he did. Yeah. Knowing some of the trivia. I'm not, I wouldn't be shocked. So speaking of which I have a lot of trivia guys.

[02:00:36:20 - 02:00:37:18]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, let's get into it.

[02:00:37:18 - 02:00:41:03]
Speaker 3
 So just bear with me through this

[02:00:42:06 - 02:00:47:08]
Speaker 3
 taglines. How on earth, how on earth can they save the future?

[02:00:48:10 - 02:02:14:02]
Speaker 3
 Beautiful. Budget was 21 to 25 million. Box office, 133 million. It did good. Before Star Trek three, the search for Spock was released. The director, Laminar Nimoy was asked to return to direct the next film in the Star Trek franchise. Whereas Nimoy had been under certain constraints in filming the previous picture. Paramount gave greater freedom for the sequel. Paramount said flat out they wanted my vision. Nimoy recalled in contrast to the drama heavy and operatic events of the three previous Star Trek features, Nimoy and producer Harvey Bennett wanted a lighter movie that did not have a clear cut villain. As William Shatner was unwilling to return, Nimoy and Bennett spent eight months considering a prequel concept by Ralph Winter about the characters at Starfleet Academy before Shatner received a pay increase and signed on to star. Nimoy and Shatner each received 2.5 million for the film, less than their original demands, but the film's cast rising salaries caused Paramount to create a new TV series entitled Star Trek The Next Generation with a less expensive, lesser known actor. Oh wow. So that's how you get the actors who are in next gen. Yeah, I mean at the time, like I always have to remind people that the most famous person on next gen would have been Geordi LaFoure's LaBarbert.

[02:02:14:02 - 02:02:15:06]
Speaker 1
 Oh from reading Rainbow?

[02:02:15:06 - 02:02:17:11]
Speaker 3
 Because not even reading Rainbow from Roots.

[02:02:17:11 - 02:02:18:07]
Speaker 2
 From Roots, right?

[02:02:18:07 - 02:02:22:20]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, because he was, yeah, like an up and coming star at that point.

[02:02:22:20 - 02:02:25:09]
Speaker 2
 And then maybe Will Wheaton from Stand By Me.

[02:02:25:09 - 02:02:26:20]
Speaker 5
 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[02:02:26:20 - 02:02:28:17]
Speaker 1
 Oh come on, that's Caliber.

[02:02:28:17 - 02:02:34:09]
Speaker 2
 And Doom. That's true, that's true. I mean, yeah, Patrick Soo wasn't a nobody, but.

[02:02:34:09 - 02:02:35:19]
Speaker 3
 No, but he wasn't really a somebody.

[02:02:35:19 - 02:02:36:14]
Speaker 2
 Definitely wasn't a no.

[02:02:36:14 - 02:03:23:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Nimoy approached Beverly Hills Cop writer Daniel Petrie Jr. to write the screenplay with the concept that the executive producer, Jeffrey Katzenberg, described as either the best or the worst idea in the world for Star Trek fan Eddie Murphy wanting a starring role. Nimoy and Murphy acknowledged his part would attract non-Star Trek fans to the franchise, following the rising popularity of Murphy. But it also meant that the film might be ridiculed. Steve Mearson and Peter Kreikies were hired to write a script with Murphy as a college professor who believes in aliens and likes to play whale songs. Murphy disliked the part and chose to make the Golden Child instead. Oh. So.

[02:03:23:03 - 02:03:31:22]
Speaker 2
 I heard that Murphy basically read the script and he was like, I thought I was going to be in Starfleet. Oh. He wanted to be like a member of the crew.

[02:03:31:22 - 02:03:38:13]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. I can see that being like, oh, great. I'm just going to be a dumb human doing human stuff.

[02:03:39:19 - 02:04:35:18]
Speaker 3
 Paramount was dissatisfied with the original script. So his head of production, Don Steele, asked Nicholas Meyer, the writer and director of Star Trek II, the Wrath of Khan, to help rewrite it. Meyer never read the earlier script, reasoning it was pointless to do so since the content had no appeal to the studio. He and Bennett split the task of conceiving the plot between them. Bennett wrote the first quarter of the story up to the point where the crew goes back in time. Meyer wrote the story's middle portion, taking place in 20th Century Earth, and Bennett handled the ending. After 12 days of writing, Meyer and Bennett combined their separate portions. I think that's fucking lunacy. Yeah. I think it's crazy to be like, you read the beginning and the ending. I'll write the middle. It'll be fine. It'll mesh together. And it's fine. Like they don't really have that much to do with each other. But it is a little weird to me as just like a beginning proposition in the first place.

[02:04:35:18 - 02:04:58:09]
Speaker 2
 I guarantee Harv Bennett put his fingers in the middle of that script too. Because Nicholas Meyer, when you read his scripts, he's a really tight writer. And then there are a few things that pop up in this that you're like, this is studio interference. And I guarantee it's Harv Bennett who was old school Star Trek. And he wanted all of the same ideas from the TV series.

[02:04:58:09 - 02:05:09:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. And there was certain things like they originally weren't going to have the woman come back to the to go into the future. Like she was going to be left behind to continue to save the whales.

[02:05:10:14 - 02:05:13:15]
Speaker 3
 And I think that was a Bennett choice.

[02:05:13:15 - 02:05:14:21]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Harv Bennett,

[02:05:16:02 - 02:05:22:03]
Speaker 2
 Demoy was pissed off at Bennett because Bennett wanted them to have subtitles at the end with the probe talking to the whale.

[02:05:22:03 - 02:05:23:16]
Speaker 3
 Yes. In the beginning.

[02:05:23:16 - 02:05:33:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. Yeah. And the studio never wanted that until that got brought up. And now Nemo is like, now I have to have a fucking conversation about this shit.

[02:05:33:12 - 02:05:34:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:05:34:06 - 02:05:35:02]
Speaker 2
 So yeah.

[02:05:35:02 - 02:05:35:21]
Speaker 3
 And by the way,

[02:05:36:23 - 02:05:44:00]
Speaker 3
 that was a future piece of trivia I was going to mention. What they wanted the subtitle was for the probe to say, where are you?

[02:05:46:02 - 02:05:46:17]
Speaker 2
 Thanks, Harv.

[02:05:46:17 - 02:06:02:23]
Speaker 3
 Super good. Super, super freaking stupid. Yeah. So I'm glad that that did not make it into the film because I would have sucked ass. The original writers filed for arbitration with the WGA and were awarded credit as well, which is why you've got freaking six like writing credits on this.

[02:06:02:23 - 02:06:32:04]
Speaker 2
 Even though Meyer hadn't even read their script. Wow, that's interesting. So there was just there was something going on. You know, after this, the DC Comics had the Star Trek property. And so they continued the story after adapting part three. And this goes into a mirror universe series with with Spock coming out of his coma and all that stuff and having to deal with evil Spock and they mind meld and then become super Spock basically.

[02:06:34:14 - 02:06:40:14]
Speaker 2
 And I got to say, I'm not opposed to this. I have I have notes at the end of this, but I don't think this film belongs here at number four.

[02:06:40:14 - 02:06:43:00]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, like belongs in the series.

[02:06:43:00 - 02:06:45:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I think it's a little too lighthearted.

[02:06:45:04 - 02:06:53:00]
Speaker 3
 It's very lighthearted compared to the previous three. That is for sure. I don't know where it would go. Like it goes.

[02:06:53:00 - 02:06:59:03]
Speaker 2
 It goes at the end. So Star Trek, the undiscovered country, which I know you love. Yeah, I love to.

[02:07:00:13 - 02:07:23:12]
Speaker 2
 If they had changed that and made that Star Trek four and made Kirk having to deal with Klingons right after they had killed his son and maybe had left that one who killed his son alive to be the one he has to deal with and make peace with. I'm like, that tightens Star Trek six up really well. And then we fuck off with Star Trek five.

[02:07:23:12 - 02:07:24:11]
Speaker 3
 We don't need Star Trek five.

[02:07:24:11 - 02:07:34:01]
Speaker 2
 Nobody needs Star Trek five. We end with the voyage home. We get a nice shot of the crew now coming back together to save the world. And I think that fits the movie.

[02:07:34:01 - 02:07:47:22]
Speaker 3
 That's interesting. I really like that. That would work really beautifully because this is such a lighthearted, like cheering, you know, instead of like the sort of fizzle into nothingness that Star Trek ended up being.

[02:07:47:22 - 02:07:49:09]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, unfortunately.

[02:07:49:09 - 02:07:51:10]
Speaker 3
 Which, yeah, which, you know, sucks.

[02:07:52:19 - 02:07:55:15]
Speaker 2
 But I didn't mean to interrupt you.

[02:07:55:15 - 02:07:56:19]
Speaker 3
 No, no, no.

[02:07:56:19 - 02:07:57:12]
Speaker 2
 I'm going to continue.

[02:07:57:12 - 02:07:58:06]
Speaker 3
 So

[02:07:59:17 - 02:08:30:05]
Speaker 3
 I'll try to continue on. Nimoy said Meyer gave the script the kind of humor and social comment. Godfully, um, gadfly attitude. I very much wanted. He added that his vision was for no dying, no fighting, no shooting, no photon torpedoes, no phaser blasts, no stereotypical bad guy. I wanted people to really have a great time watching this film. And if somewhere in the mix we lobbed a couple of big ideas at them, well, then that would be even better.

[02:08:31:09 - 02:08:32:00]
Speaker 3
 Uh,

[02:08:32:00 - 02:08:45:18]
Speaker 2
 yeah, they really had hit you over the. With this message, it's by the way, we do know how to believe that by killing these creatures hunting them to we have killed ourselves.

[02:08:45:18 - 02:08:49:07]
Speaker 5
 I believe this is the for really willing like this for

[02:08:50:12 - 02:08:52:00]
Speaker 1
 inspiration for free.

[02:08:52:00 - 02:08:54:15]
Speaker 3
 I know. Right. Like we were so.

[02:08:54:15 - 02:08:58:09]
Speaker 1
 Star Trek was a little too subtle. Let's do free willy.

[02:08:58:09 - 02:09:03:00]
Speaker 3
 We only bummer is we're still killing the whales. It's just by we're taking all their food.

[02:09:03:00 - 02:09:24:13]
Speaker 2
 Although how about that scene with Kirk and the the whale woman standing in front of them and Kirk starts spouting off his bullshit Shakespeare quotes, which she knows the end of, you know, they say that the sea holds the hottest blood. I was like, Kirk, you fucking slimy bastard.

[02:09:24:13 - 02:09:28:12]
Speaker 1
 Leave her alone. You just looked that up on your computer. I need a line.

[02:09:28:12 - 02:09:33:20]
Speaker 2
 You guys still have to make it alive through time travel. He's like, I got to I got to shoot by shot now.

[02:09:35:00 - 02:09:43:14]
Speaker 3
 It's crazy, too, because at the end, she she gets a job as like a science officer somewhere and then she just gives him a little kiss on the cheek and she's like, see you later.

[02:09:43:14 - 02:09:47:18]
Speaker 2
 He's like, how will I find you? I'm like, Kirk, Jesus Christ.

[02:09:48:21 - 02:09:51:22]
Speaker 2
 Fucking man up. Stop this nonsense.

[02:09:51:22 - 02:09:54:10]
Speaker 3
 So crazy. He needs to bang everyone.

[02:09:54:10 - 02:09:58:16]
Speaker 2
 I know that it is so obvious that this I'm just like, wow.

[02:09:58:16 - 02:10:03:20]
Speaker 3
 I just love that they didn't have them sleep together. Like, I think that's that's pretty that's pretty notable.

[02:10:03:20 - 02:10:19:10]
Speaker 1
 Another one of the extras that I watched or this was I don't know why it was on this video, but it was Kirk and his women and it's interviews with largely the original crew and the lady in this one talking about William Shatner. Yeah. At

[02:10:20:15 - 02:10:21:14]
Speaker 1
 that time, they all loved him.

[02:10:23:02 - 02:10:30:05]
Speaker 1
 They said very nice things about him. They probably found the people that would because they didn't talk about very many of the women. There's only like four of them.

[02:10:30:05 - 02:10:34:12]
Speaker 3
 I can imagine it would be I mean, when he was like super attractive. I'm sure.

[02:10:34:12 - 02:10:35:13]
Speaker 1
 Yeah. Well, this is original.

[02:10:35:13 - 02:10:43:16]
Speaker 3
 Yes. Yeah. Original. I was like, I can see them. A lot of people being like, wow, this like hot dude is interested in me. But

[02:10:44:23 - 02:10:49:01]
Speaker 3
 yeah, as he ages, I would find maybe it would be intolerable.

[02:10:49:01 - 02:10:50:00]
Speaker 2
 Your God.

[02:10:50:00 - 02:10:53:16]
Speaker 3
 Also, he's like, how many times did he get married? Was it two or three times?

[02:10:53:16 - 02:10:55:19]
Speaker 1
 And really, yeah, something like that.

[02:10:55:19 - 02:11:01:15]
Speaker 2
 Well, his first wife died mysteriously in the swimming pool and then

[02:11:02:19 - 02:11:04:14]
Speaker 2
 I think he had another wife die.

[02:11:05:16 - 02:11:11:23]
Speaker 2
 Don't quote me on that. I don't I don't know. I know my Star Trek way more than I know my real William Shatner.

[02:11:11:23 - 02:11:12:18]
Speaker 3
 Sure.

[02:11:14:00 - 02:11:14:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[02:11:15:12 - 02:11:18:07]
Speaker 3
 Just a couple more things. Leonard Nimoy provided the low

[02:11:19:21 - 02:11:55:12]
Speaker 3
 sound that the alien probe makes while flying through space. The sound effects editor, Mark Mangini, had come up with several possible sound effects for the probe, none of which Nimoy liked. Finally, Mangini asked, well, what do you think the alien probe should sound like? And then we thought for a moment and then did a vocal impression of the sound he thought that it should make. Mangini said, OK, let's use that. Nimoy stepped into a recording booth and did a two minute voice recording of the Wub Wub Wub noise. And he took the recording of Nimoy's voice, mixed it with some electric feedback. And wail song and made the alien probe sound.

[02:11:55:12 - 02:11:56:12]
Speaker 2
 That's amazing.

[02:11:56:12 - 02:12:06:14]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, I love that. He also worked on the punk song. Did he? Yeah. And went on to win an Oscar for Mad Max. Fury wrote. Nimoy did? No. Mark Mangini.

[02:12:06:14 - 02:12:09:00]
Speaker 3
 Oh, Mark Mangini. Yes. OK, that makes more sense.

[02:12:09:00 - 02:12:09:15]
Speaker 1
 Yes, he did.

[02:12:10:16 - 02:12:14:02]
Speaker 1
 The song's snotty, simple guitar riff is in this article.

[02:12:14:02 - 02:12:27:02]
Speaker 3
 So good. Yeah, I love Nimoy. I have his book of poetry. We are all children under the sun. But this guy, a pretty specific look on life.

[02:12:27:02 - 02:12:30:15]
Speaker 1
 The Hobbit song or whatever that he sang in the 70s.

[02:12:30:15 - 02:12:32:09]
Speaker 5
 Now, Billbo. Billbo.

[02:12:32:09 - 02:12:33:18]
Speaker 1
 Interesting character.

[02:12:33:18 - 02:12:45:08]
Speaker 3
 Oh, yeah. Now, yes, I have the CD of it's is it Lost in Space? It's something in space. Him and Shatter kind of go back and forth each taking on songs. That's where you get like a space man.

[02:12:46:09 - 02:12:47:01]
Speaker 3
 Um,

[02:12:47:01 - 02:12:48:01]
Speaker 1
 songs.

[02:12:49:02 - 02:12:51:12]
Speaker 3
 It's so beautiful. Oh, my God. Anyway,

[02:12:52:13 - 02:12:54:18]
Speaker 3
 some some shots of the whales

[02:12:57:00 - 02:13:27:10]
Speaker 3
 were in fact four foot long animatronic models. Four models were created and were so realistic that after the release of the film, US fishing authorities publicly criticized the filmmakers for getting too close to the whales in the wild. The seams involving these whales were shot in a pool underneath the parking lot in Paramount Studios. The shot of the whales swimming past the Golden Gate Bridge were filmed on location and nearly ended in disaster when a cable got snagged on a nuclear submarine and the whales were towed out to sea.

[02:13:27:10 - 02:13:28:05]
Speaker 1
 Oh, my.

[02:13:29:10 - 02:13:39:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, I think it's so funny that all these like whale activists were like, you guys, what are you doing? And they're like, they're models. Like, what do you want from us?

[02:13:39:05 - 02:13:40:13]
Speaker 1
 We're movie makers.

[02:13:40:13 - 02:13:54:20]
Speaker 3
 Exactly. During the Earth based scenes, Kirk and his crew continue to wear their 23rd century clothing. Nimoy debated whether the crew should change costumes. But after seeing how people in San Francisco are addressed, he decided they would still fit in.

[02:13:54:20 - 02:13:56:13]
Speaker 1
 Especially Spock.

[02:13:58:16 - 02:14:08:14]
Speaker 2
 I felt I felt like that costume design was a Leonard Nimoy choice. He's like, if I have to also direct and act, I'm going to wear the most comfortable thing I can think of.

[02:14:10:04 - 02:14:13:19]
Speaker 3
 Like the ultimate like the Hilton flush extra

[02:14:13:19 - 02:14:23:10]
Speaker 2
 sweatband for the rough period. Except not very well put together because he just tear it well, they are super strong, the Vulcan. So I guess you can tear it easily. But yeah,

[02:14:24:22 - 02:14:38:10]
Speaker 3
 Catherine Hicks studied whales to help prepare for audition and subsequent role. As a result, Hicks became inspired to become actively involved with anti whaling efforts. James Duhan once cited Admiral Thereby Whales here as his favorite Scotty line.

[02:14:40:01 - 02:15:00:21]
Speaker 3
 This film features the only instance in which Kirk says Scotty beam me up, which I thought was very interesting. And Vonda and McIntyre wrote a novelization that was released at the same time as the film. It was the biggest tie in novel published by Pocket Books and spent eight weeks on the New York Times bestseller list, peaking at number three.

[02:15:00:21 - 02:15:09:15]
Speaker 1
 Wow, damn. This was this was a big fucking movie. Yeah, yeah, it was huge. Two and three were two and four were huge. Three was fine.

[02:15:10:19 - 02:15:18:16]
Speaker 2
 I mean, I mean, as far as box watching three, you know, in order of this time, it's really good. It's much better than you remember.

[02:15:18:16 - 02:15:23:05]
Speaker 1
 I know I've I've always liked three. I've never had a problem with the two, three and fours. Yeah, then

[02:15:23:05 - 02:15:25:08]
Speaker 5
 I'm looking forward to one.

[02:15:25:08 - 02:15:27:17]
Speaker 1
 So one's interesting. Five is

[02:15:27:17 - 02:15:34:22]
Speaker 2
 five is almost unwatchable. But two, three and four, that's a real nice sit down and watch all three together.

[02:15:34:22 - 02:15:38:12]
Speaker 3
 I was directed by Shatner. And yeah, that's kind

[02:15:38:12 - 02:15:39:10]
Speaker 1
 of a

[02:15:40:14 - 02:15:44:05]
Speaker 1
 surprise. And he didn't direct more stuff. Yeah, it's pretty successful.

[02:15:44:05 - 02:15:47:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, because only 14 credits. I was like, damn, like,

[02:15:47:03 - 02:15:49:19]
Speaker 1
 oh, OK, we made it. I thought he did like three or four.

[02:15:49:19 - 02:15:57:17]
Speaker 3
 He did like, yeah, he did the three men and a little baby. But yeah, he did just like a lot of just one off television.

[02:15:57:17 - 02:16:00:07]
Speaker 1
 Did he do little lady or little and her baby?

[02:16:00:07 - 02:16:00:17]
Speaker 3
 Baby.

[02:16:00:17 - 02:16:02:01]
Speaker 1
 OK, yeah, that was huge.

[02:16:02:01 - 02:16:09:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, that was a big that was a good movie. Yeah, yeah. Maybe he just wanted to stay in acting more. I don't know, because that would have been cool.

[02:16:09:11 - 02:16:21:23]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. You know, or it could have been that, you know, I'm only going to do what I want to do. Made enough money, you know, Shatner. You know, they have the whatever it's called fair.

[02:16:23:12 - 02:16:32:11]
Speaker 2
 Fair enough. No, she says I'm not giving it because Nimoy was offered a movie. Shatner had to be offered a movie. Oh, so what is that called in contracts?

[02:16:32:11 - 02:16:33:17]
Speaker 5
 Not fair use

[02:16:33:17 - 02:16:35:11]
Speaker 2
 fair nations or something like that.

[02:16:36:16 - 02:16:44:02]
Speaker 2
 So Shatner was supposed to get four since Nimoy directed three. And then for whatever reason, he stepped away from it.

[02:16:44:02 - 02:16:47:00]
Speaker 3
 Just didn't even want it in the first place, because if he was like, this

[02:16:47:00 - 02:16:49:19]
Speaker 1
 is not philosophical and deep, this is not approach my

[02:16:49:19 - 02:16:54:09]
Speaker 3
 I mean, it sounds like she wanted nothing to do with four at all in the first place.

[02:16:54:09 - 02:17:02:13]
Speaker 2
 Well, I think he just was like, hey, we're making a lot of money on these movies. And how about we all make a lot of money on it? So.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, I don't know. This one held up very well for me.

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Speaker 3
 Mm hmm. It's it's super fun. Like, I just love that it exists because you just you need to have some fun with Star Trek sometimes. Like it's I love when it's science heavy. I love when it's drama heavy. But sometimes you just need to have like a good time to.

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Speaker 2
 Oh, yeah. This starts off with a scene that, you know, as a as a kid, you know, even 16 when this came out, I just took every movie as this is the movie. But

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Speaker 2
 now I watch a movie and I'm like, oh, right here, I would have changed this entire movie. They they go and paint the HMS Bounty on this Klingon bird of prey. And they're being told, you know, now you have to return for your trial. Right. And I'm like, this is a perfect time for the crew of the enterprise to fuck off and become space pirates in their stolen bird of prey and just fucking roll the stars. Right.

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Speaker 2
 So

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Speaker 2
 anyway, OK, so my turn for the next one, right?

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Speaker 5
 Yeah.

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Speaker 2
 OK, I am picking a weird one. I'm very curious to see what you guys will think of this. It is available on Prime and it is called the ninth configuration.

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Speaker 3
 I have been wanting to see this for a long time.

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Speaker 2
 Well, I can't wait to hear what you think, because it is a wacky one

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Speaker 2
 directed by William Peter Plattie.

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Speaker 2
 So that means this is the part where we say, hey, to you, thank you so much for being out there and supporting us in whichever way you are able to. Cash is always welcome. In lieu of cash, we'll take a nice review on whatever you listen to your podcasts on or on YouTube if you're watching us.

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Speaker 2
 In lieu of that, liking and sharing posts, commenting under the YouTube one is a big one, I guess. But even just having a conversation with us on the Strangey ons radio talk pages is very welcome.

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Speaker 3
 Absolutely.

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Speaker 2
 And then where else can they get a hold of us?

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Speaker 3
 Well, you can also leave us a voicemail if you so wish on our Strangey ons radio hotline. That phone number is two five three two three seven four two six six. You can leave us a voicemail. You can text us there.

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Speaker 2
 But dial.

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Speaker 3
 But dial.

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Speaker 3
 I want two full minutes of swish. Swish, swish. Trying to pick out the voices. What is where are you? I sounds like a store. I mean, the grocery store is the target. Is this where

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Speaker 3
 we we would love to hear from you guys. We would love to hear your thoughts about what we're talking about or ideas you might have

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Speaker 2
 about the new format. Is this do we continue this way? Do we go back? Do we make it a mix of all that and more?

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Speaker 1
 Yeah, definitely love to hear that.

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Speaker 2
 All right, gang. I will see you guys and I will see you in two short weeks. See you next time. Transportation and other considerations for Strangey ons radio produced by Pan Am Airlines. When you think of traveling, think of Pan Am. You can't beat the experience. Yes, the Strangey ons radio stay at Econolodge Ever. It's an easy stop on the road. You know what would mean? Strangey ons radio is recorded live in front of a studio audience. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving us a positive review on your favorite podcast.

[02:20:19:23 - 02:20:21:05]
Speaker 2
 Sit, Ubu, sit.

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Speaker 3
 I will never see this film.