351 WESTWORLD!

351 WESTWORLD!

Kelly might have a ghost in his place.

Also discussed: Hokum, Exit 8, Widow's Bay.

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 A lot of nonsense in there. 

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 Oh, I'm sorry. Did I break your concentration?

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 (Music) Somewhere between science and superstition.

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 (Music) We have such sights to show you. (Music)

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 Strange Yawns. Welcome to Strange Yawns Radio. Welcome to a very special episode of Strange Yawns Radio where we are zooming from our own houses again because Mother's Day fell on our regular recording day. And with everything going on in my life, I felt like I should probably spend Mother's Day with my mom this time.

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 One of us is a mother, so... Well, yeah, I actually forewent Mother's Day this year because I had to work instead. But I was willing to record on Mother's Day, but I also think that that was the right choice, Kelly. Yes. Fully supporting. Fully supporting. And Eric has been called a mother more than once. Yeah, there you go.

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 (Laughter) There was a rough cryptic on this here.

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 (Laughter) Oh, I can only imagine. Not really.

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 That's pretty good.

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 Hey, guys, I want to talk about something.

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 I live in a house by myself, or in an apartment by myself. And that means that all the doors are open for everything all the time, except I close my bedroom door when I sleep because I don't want the light pollution coming in from any of the windows out there.

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 The only time the door is closed is when I sleep. I wake up, I open the door, I get my clothes on out in the living room, I go to work, come home, and everything.

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 Once in a while, every six months, I come home from work and my bedroom door is closed.

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 And I think about that.

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 Is it your Roomba trying to act out? No, no, no. It doesn't do anything unless I actually tell it to start doing something.

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 I don't know what it is. The first time, trust me, I came home and I come in through the back, and so the first thing I see is my bedroom door closed. And I'm like, "Fuck."

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 Where's my gut? It's in the bedroom. Fuck.

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 (Laughter)

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 What's your bigger fear that somebody is, like a homeless person, is sneaking in there and sleeping in your bed while you're gone, or that there's a ghost in your apartment? What's worse? Well, the first time I was like, "There's somebody in my apartment."

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 And years ago, somebody broke into my neighbor's apartment next door to me and did it while they were asleep, and she came out and saw them. So that's what I originally thought, you know. So I was ready for bear when I opened the door. And there's just not a lot of places to hide in my house. You know, I've got closets and everything, but try slipping in there with all of the toys and shit that are packed away in every single closet. There's no space under the bed. There's just no place to hide in my house unless it's around the corner, right? So there's nobody there.

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 You know, I do live underneath a very large person, and I'm like, "Could there be something going on where movement upstairs is enough to shift my door closed?" Right. Aerobics.

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 I don't know. That seems unlikely. And it is not latched, but I don't latch my door even when I sleep. I just close it to keep the light out.

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 So, yeah, I don't know. But I'll tell you, it happens so infrequently that every time it happens, I'm like, "Motherfucker." And I, you know, I have to go into there and make sure there's not somebody in my bedroom. But with your previous living situation, it probably doesn't help that thinking. Yes, where I actually had fucking weirdos that could have gotten into my place and tried to get into my place once.

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 Oh my God.

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 But yeah, I don't know. Sometimes, you know, I always tell people I don't believe in ghosts and tell something fucking I can't explain happens, and then I absolutely believe in ghosts, you know?

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 Yep.

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 Yeah, no kidding. I mean, I'm definitely a team ghost, but not sure what ghosts are, but probably ghosts. So I don't know. I keep hoping there's nothing in my house, but I don't love being downstairs by myself. So I don't know.

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 Your house is pretty old.

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 1959.

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 Somebody has died there. Nobody has died there for sure. And probably murdered.

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 Yeah, like, I mean, I guess this area, it's very close to a rough area, but I don't know.

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 My dad used to say, my dad used to say, any time there was the excuse of Indian burial ground, he goes, oh, Christ, if you go back far enough, everything is an Indian burial ground on this planet.

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 That's a good point. Yeah, people die everywhere. Yeah.

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 The Earth has been around long enough. I just thought I'd let you know that maybe a ghost of my place. It's weird. Yeah, it's really it's very unsettling when you live by yourself. And it's like, do you just accept it and be like, I might have a spooky roommate who occasionally wants to close the door. Or is it like, now I'm on edge all the time until it happens again?

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 Right. Yeah.

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 Speaking of ghost guys, I saw something pretty fucking cool.

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 I saw a movie called Hokem.

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 Oh, that looks so good.

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 Yeah, it it lives up to the good things you've heard. It is the new movie by the guy that made Audity.

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 I liked the audity. And I think that you liked it a lot, Eric. And we both had the same mini complaint, which was could tell exactly where everything was going from. Yeah, still fun to watch. But you're going, I'm not going to get surprised. I wasn't surprised. This one, I had no idea where it was going. And there's a couple of nice turns in it. And Adam Scott plays kind of an asshole writer who has gone to

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 scatter his parents' ashes in Ireland and then gets caught up in something. Aren't you Irish?

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 Me? Scottish. Damn. That track is right there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, Kelly, the red hair. Well, I guess it's I guess it's pretty much white now.

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 But I thought it was I thought it was very, very good. So I'm with the 85 percent of people on Rotten Tomatoes who have said they like it. I was told that there's like some humor in it as well, which the humor probably comes from the fact that Adam Scott is so unlikable. He plays a real asshole and and like he he like goes out of his way to be an asshole a couple of times to to the point where I was made uncomfortable. I was like, I would never say something like this or do something like this, especially in a country that I did not belong in. So so there's a couple of laughs that way.

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 And then what I thought was a really satisfying ending. So, yeah, just just really good. A really solid ghost story. Hocum in theaters now. Nice. I am really looking forward to seeing that. I almost went and saw that except I chose instead to see Mortal Kombat 2. Don't don't don't don't don't don't realize from watching the trailer that this was in fact this is stupid of me. But I did not realize it is in fact the sequel to the previous Mortal Kombat movie. Funny how that works. Had you seen that one? No, I don't think you're going to miss much. No. And while we are sitting there waiting for the previews to start, my husband brought up a YouTube video that explained the plot of the first one. And I'm glad he did because there's a lot of nonsense in there that I would have completely been lost without. I will say Carl Urban is in this. He he plays Johnny.

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 Can't remember his last name now. Yeah, Cage. Is that right? Yeah, Johnny Cage. Great. Like he's great. He's he's almost wasted. Like the movie's OK. It's fine. The trailer makes it look a lot better than it ended up being.

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 Yeah, I don't know if I would recommend seeing it, unfortunately, because I just I don't know. I feel like it's just not quite where it looks like it should be. And I'm hoping there's a Street Fighter trailer that's out now that I'm hoping that maybe that one will actually live up to the hype that it's creating for itself. So yeah, I'd heard that Mortal Kombat 2 had gotten some pretty so-so reviews and they all said what you said.

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 Carl Urban is great and not great enough to fix the other problems of the movie. Yeah, there's just too much going on. I mean, I feel like some of the characters like there's there's plenty of fun stuff in there, but the plot just I don't know. It kind of moves like molasses and and it is also a fairly predictable set of things that are occurring here. Just like it is Mortal Kombat. Well, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of like mystical like wooji stuff going on, though, within it. And I just was like, oh, okay. All right, that's fine. We're beside. Dina and I occasionally go to Jersey Mikes there in near us. And you know, you get those orders and there's a little ding. Theirs is the Gong from the Mortal Kombat song. Oh, my God. It's pretty good. So every time we go there, I leave with that song in my head, which is fine because I like it a lot from the first movie. Right. Mortal Kombat 2. Yeah. So I don't know if you've had a chance to watch this yet, Vanessa or not, if you.

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 But I got Children of the Wicker Man. I have not seen it. From Severn. I have not seen it yet. Which is a book as well.

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 All kinds of stuff. But it's the story of two of the director's kids who come across a huge cache of stuff about the movie after he dies. Somebody says, I have all these things from the film. You want to check them out. And it's one of the more interesting stories of making a movie I've watched because it's very family as well.

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 So.

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 I'm sure being one of, if not your favorite film

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 that it's going to I think you get a lot out of it. The brothers are interesting and their stories like, oh, shit. OK.

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 Maybe the director was, you know, not the greatest guy in the world.

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 But he also kind of got shit on. But it's it's really good. So I remember mentioning that to you from Severn and hope you ordered it because it's definitely worth it.

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 And one of the rare, not outrageously priced things from Severn, considering it's a movie and the book. I will have to track it down because I actually forgot about it. And that just sounds so excellent. That's just. Yeah, I think it's out for regular sale now.

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 Yeah.

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 What's is there is the book like different information that once in the movie? It's yes. The companion. So it's a similar story, just expanding on the stuff that was found and the paperwork and showing a lot more of that. That's cool. Yeah, it's.

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 Really interesting for such an incredibly interesting film. So yeah, very cool. No kidding. Children of the Wicker Man. Good title. Yeah.

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 OK, then the next thing I will talk about is a little Japanese movie called Exit Eight. Yes.

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 Vanessa, I know you're aware of this. I hadn't I had not played the video game. I have nothing about it. OK. And then, Eric, do you know what this is about? No, not at all.

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 So it is it's one of these liminal horror stories and it is about a guy who who gets caught in a weird loop in a subway. Tunnel or subway walkways trying to get to a gate. And he realizes after he keeps passing the same stuff that that he's stuck in something and that there are rules that he has to follow if he wants to get out of this loop. And a lot of it, first of all, I'll just say I thought it was really, really cool. I thought it was interesting and beautiful and and weirdly creepy.

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 But I also wanted just a tad more. This the story is clearly this happened to him because of something we see happen early on. And and I wanted just a little bit more of why this thing happens. He bumps into other people who are also stuck in there and they're going the opposite direction or they can come with him or they may be more. Or they may be part of the problem. If he sees like an aberration, he's supposed to backtrack and start over again. And these people could be an aberration or they could be people who are lost. And I just I I just found myself kind of hypnotized by it. I thought it was really, really something else. What what did you think that I thought? I absolutely loved it. I it felt like one of those things where it was a low budget movie done right. Like the actual structure of the game. I've played other games that are similar to it. So I kind of know how you're how it's meant to go. And I feel like that could be very if you followed it, that could be very boring and irritating to watch as a movie. But instead adding in kind of a base layer of plot and then kind of adding to that history of this place a little bit and all these other little nuggets that they just keep throwing in. That allows it to kind of thrive as a story. There were definitely like you could see the limits of the budget in some of the I want to say some of the effects or like there were a few things I was like, I was like, it's kind of silly or there were a couple of big swings on the effects that I was not expecting that happened a little later. And I was like, wow, I did not see something like this happening. I flood in the tunnels and stuff like that.

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 Yeah, definitely. Yeah. And I think that there was like a few little moments in there that I was like, this is this doesn't kind of land the way that I would love for it to. But at the same time, it did. It moved and it felt I don't know. It felt really good. I really enjoyed it as a film. And I was surprised that they managed to succeed with a story that that's it's just so tiny. So yeah. Yeah, it was it was really neat. It's available in or it's still playing in a couple of little theaters, but it's already available to rent and has been for a while. So I thought that was interesting. Wow. I didn't realize I just was went and saw it in the theaters. I was like, I got to I got to check this thing out probably off of I don't know if it was off of your recommendation or what. But I don't think I said anything about it.

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 That's just it. You know, we none of us really talk about anything because we're all like save it for the podcast. They definitely like each other.

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 I know. I feel like I also end up missing out on so much good stuff because we're holding so much back from one another. And then all of a sudden I've got like eight things I have to watch. So well, now that we're, you know, doing two a week, maybe we could send out a few every once in a while.

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 I know we seem to start this. Well, what do I want to talk about? I've got this and this. Right. Right.

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 Anyway, that was exit eight. And well, I came across something like every morning I wake up and I go to YouTube and I watch new trailers and I kind of watch whatever new trailer exists. And because of that, I came across this weird little show that was coming up on Apple TV called Widows Bay. And it was so compelling. And I was like, this show is either going to be amazing because it's almost like Stephen King with a little bit of humor, like this weird haunted town with like a past. But it's a mayor who's also trying to create tourism for this town and to get it popular. And he's very much like this. This is all nonsense. All these stories about this, you know, these weird ghosts and Merman or whatever seaside BS, whatever. Like this town is just old and needs to get like stuck unstuck from its ways.

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 And of course, all of this stuff is real. So he's constantly kind of writing that line of like, did I see this? No, like that's so stupid. Or like they're just getting to me. They're just getting in my head.

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 But yeah, so there's probably been I think four episodes at this point and there's another one coming out tonight. And I've just really enjoyed it. It's it's just really I like the way they play the humor. I like that the the lead is the straight man in it. I'm hoping that there's a little bit more of a diversity of people who are into the lore because right now there's just one crazy guy he keeps running into who tells him the crazy thing for that episode. And it's like we got we got to get like a few more people involved. Like you can't just be this one guy over and over again. But there's I've been enjoying it. But so, Kelly, you've seen this as well. I've only seen the first two episodes and I liked it a lot. I'm a little surprised that you're enjoying it because I know that your tolerance for humor is is very low and this is real subtle humor. Yeah, I think that's why I think because it's not slap. I mean, there's a little bit of like physical humor in it, but it's it's not based off of like body jokes or anything like that. It's right. It's pretty. It's very it's very smart. Yeah. It feels a lot like like, oh, man, I'm blanking on the name of the town that the fog takes place in. Oh, something Bay also. I see an action figure for the fog behind you.

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 Something Bay. Yeah. But it feels kind of like that. And yeah, I love that this this new mayor has come in and he's decided to like debunk all of these superstitions. And every time it turns out that it's probably real. I think the crazy guy you're talking about is Stephen Root, right? Yes. Yeah. And in the second episode, he said something and I was like, wait a second. Was he the former mayor? So I think he's the former mayor of the place and he's trying to keep everybody from coming to the town. Yeah, he's trying to. He's he thinks that like everyone's going to get hurt if they reopen the the inn or, you know, like he's just constantly like, no, no, no, you understand this gruesome thing happened there. And if you let people stay in this one room, they'll die. You're just like, oh, that's stupid. What are you talking about? You just spent all this money. You know, the cafe has been redone and it's there's this subplot in there about a priest that I am absolutely loving. I just every time you see just there's some other big story going on in the background, you just see these little snippets of of it and you're just like, wait, what the hell is going on over there? Yeah, it's very clever.

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 Yeah, I guess that's two strong recommends for Widows Bay then, which is on Apple Shock or another series from Apple that we like. Yeah, I mean, Apple, they know what's up, although I'm a little nervous about this new John Travolta series that's coming out. The propeller looks like shit. Oh, no. Yeah, it's based on the novel of his childhood love falling in love with airplanes by riding like a long flight at night on a really rich, you know, nice flight. And then he's like, I want to get an airplane. I'm like, this is the stupidest fucking thing. I don't want to sit through this bullshit. I don't care about why you like airplanes will probably end up loving. Yeah, probably. There you go.

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 OK, well, I dove into a Netflix original. Oh, Apex.

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 Yeah, it seems to be interesting. It seems to be watching a lot of people about it. A lot of people have a huge problem with the ending, which is hard to talk about without spoiling the whole film. I had less trouble with it just because I kind of thought I think I know what's going on here and I did. But I think it's pretty good. It's a woman played by. Oh, I don't know. Somebody have heard of what's her name? Charlie's their own.

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 Done some shit. And Taron Edgerton.

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 Yeah, he's quickly becoming one of my favorite young actors. He's great. He's pretty good in this. He's I mean, I don't think I'm not going to call this a spoiler because he starts off. She's lost her husband in a mountain accident, goes out to be alone someplace. So she goes to Australia. Yeah, you can do that. They never be alone in Australia. And you know, goes to a gas station, runs into some trouble guys. And this guy saves her.

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 Her helps her than really save her, but helps her. And of course, you know, first time he appears going, oh, you're too nice.

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 And it's sort of a most dangerous game story after that. I thought it was fun, enjoyable. They're both, you know, they're both really good at what they do. So that keeps things going.

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 Vengeance, I think, gets in the way of people's idea of the end. But I didn't think that was a problem because I'm like, yeah, this is not going what it looks like it's going to be. As far as, you know, if you're just looking at it as a straight film, it ends pretty much what I think I know what she's going to do. It's kind of obvious, I thought. But apparently a lot of people thought it was obvious that she was doing something else. But it's a short film, too. It's like 80, 90 minute movie. Oh, man, I'm in. Yeah, it moves at a nice pace. And I said, if you like one or both of the leads, they're basically the whole movie. Wow. So I enjoyed it.

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 It's crazy to see these like big stars taking on these weird like little streaming films. I'm just like, why is Charlize Theron and Taron Edgerton in a straight to Netflix, like most dangerous game, spinoff style movie? Like what is what is our world?

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 Well, you know, I think there's probably a reason

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 you're trying to say that people accept jobs for money. Yeah. I also think I mean, obviously, Charlize is big enough. We don't hear about it, but she's obviously got her own production company and all that stuff. And I bet you she's got a Netflix deal. She did that weird like soldiers based off of the graphic novel, the Old Guard or whatever. Yeah, the immortal soldier thing. Yeah. Yeah. And that was that was way out of left field. So we got a sequel, too. So so she's got something going on with them and then didn't Taron Edgerton do that one with Jason Bateman. Was that a Netflix movie also, the one with the the flight? Oh, my God. No, right. Yeah. I think it was the first he's playing. He's a security guard. Yeah. Yeah. That was funny. I can't remember if it was Netflix or not. But, you know, if it was, then that would tell me that they both have some kind of. Yeah. Some kind of deal with them. You do see certain actors who are who seem to be tied to certain streaming services. So it does feel like, yeah, people be doing deals. Yeah. And I know we'll see more Affleck and Damon on there after that last one that they did because they talked about it, how they made some kind of like three picture deal with Netflix. And then Ben Affleck sold his his A.I. company that he was starting up to Netflix. So everybody is tied in somehow. Yeah. What was that called again? Apex. Yeah. Netflix. OK. Well, why don't we take a little break and then when we come back, we are going to be talking about Eric's latest pick for us, which was Westworld.

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 There's a new game in town. Wild West Gunslinger. It's you, your deputy and a shooting gallery of cans and bottles. Drawer. Pulling trigger. It's a hit. Take a shot. The bottle you got. Gunslinger accurate up to 20 feet. Watch him fly with real gunshot and ricochet sounds. Practice makes perfect with Wild West Gunslinger. And we are back. Lately, we've been doing this whole thing of one of us picks a film for all of us to talk about. And this time it was your turn. Eric, can you pick Westworld? Yes, the robots of Westworld are there to serve you and to give you the most unique vacation experience of your life. It's just a warm, glowing place to be. It's a realist thing I ever done. At Delos, you get your choice for the vacation you want. The guns they give you are real guns. Real guns. That's incredible. There's no way to get hurt here. Just enjoy yourself. Pretty realistic, huh?

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 Stand by for resort activation. Ready on six. Ready on phase four, four, three. Activate now.

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 We aren't dealing with ordinary machines. We don't know exactly how they work.

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 There's a clear pattern here which suggests an analogy to an infectious disease process. If we can't ensure the safety of the guests, we're going to be in desperate trouble. I feel we should shut down for a month. Oh, that seems rash. Machines have gone crazy. There's one chasing me now. There'll always be one jump ahead of you. No matter what you did, you haven't got a chance. Shut down. Shut down immediately.

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 Everything's fine. Boy, do we have a vacation for you? Oh, my God. For you. Raw. For you. You. You. You.

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 Was it worth a thousand dollars a day? Contact us today. Or see your travel agent. Boy, have we got a vacation for you.

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 I felt I owed Kelly a movie. I mean, it's one I like. I haven't and I haven't seen it in a like decade. So it's time for a visit. Yeah. Also, hey, guys, don't don't feel like you got to pick a movie. I'm going to like I got no problem watching it and then just fucking hating it and telling everybody how much I owe. You did have fun. That is true.

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 And the arrow just came out with their super cool. Oh, cool. Cool version of it. So now's the time to talk about Westworld from nineteen seventy three. If you are interested, it's available all over the place. Prime rental to be canopy. It's not a hard one to find. This is directed by Michael Creighton.

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 And I who you might have heard of Koma Looker Runaway. Jurassic Park. Of course, he didn't direct any of those Koma. I mean, he didn't direct that. He did direct Koma Looker and Runaway.

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 He also wrote a whole lot of stuff. Rising Sun, Dramatist Train, Twister, Congo and Jurassic Park. One of those is not like the others.

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 This stars, you'll Brenner who I have a weird memory of way back when I was a little kid, we traveled to San Francisco to see the king and I live with you. Brenner. Oh, wow. I don't remember much of the play. I just remember his stage is a curtain call was this huge dramatic. Throw his arms up and it was really cool. So that's cool. But he's also an etcetera. There you go. Yes. Future World, The Magnificent Seven and God knows how many other movies. Richard Benjamin, who was pretty hot actor at this time in a lot of 70s stuff like Catch-22, The Sunshine Boys and love it for his bite. Boy.

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 And James Brolin. Oh, yes. There you go. That's more in the 80s.

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 James Brolin playing John Blaine. Yeah.

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 I'm going to say, okay, Craig, maybe a little too much there because he plays the macho stereotype of a Western guy. You might know him from Amityville Horror, Traffic, Psych, Night of the Juggler.

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 A lot of movies and

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 Lindigay Scott who was in the Batman show, the party and we still run.

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 Yeah, man.

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 Looks so fucking handsome in this movie.

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 He is so hot. I'm just like, oh, God damn, get out of here.

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 He's at his most brolin esque. He's playing John Blaine. Yes.

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 Can't go talk.

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 Anyway, so the beginning starts off and it starts up and going,

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 I hope this isn't an error in production because the 20th Century Fox starts like a third of the screen and then it starts interviewing. Oh, this is a TV segment that's going to lead to the movie where they interview people about Westworld and medieval world. And I thought the the Rome choice of Pompeii was an interesting way to go. Like, how does that one end?

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 The is fun because people interviewing and it gets right into the meat of what this movie is trying to say. They're not really hiding it about people being awful and people wanting to get away with things you wouldn't normally be able to get away with. And I'm feeling great about it at a thousand dollars a day, which I think in the days is about three thousand or thirty five hundred dollars a day.

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 Seems like this takes place in the distant future. Nineteen eighty three. So I was in the future from nineteen seventy.

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 In ten years, we're going to have robot amusement parks where? Totally realistic looking human robotics.

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 So then it goes to bringing in the shuttle and we introduce the dynamic between the two leads with Richard and James,

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 who's obviously been there probably several times. And Richard's first visit talking about, well, should I get the gun with the strings so I can draw faster or the holster with a string and roll in just like whatever you want to do, they'll make it work for you. Yeah. The quiet time. I love it's a it's a little obvious because it goes on for so long. But I love the way Brolin's always kind of looking at him like you have no idea what you're in store for. You know, love this.

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 And it goes on for quite a while. Even into like right up until where he first runs into Yuleb Renner.

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 But I did. I didn't remember the the shuttle, which in itself is so futuristic that it would be thought of as only 10 years ahead. And it's just shooting at like 200 miles an hour over the desert. Like what? Ten feet above the cactus or something there. It's like, oh, but yeah, that looked cool. Although I did. I was also impressed that their ability to hold the glasses still. That's right. There was there were no cup holders. They were just sitting. They don't. Wow.

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 The nice little balancing system going on there.

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 So they get to Westworld and he's like, so is that one of them?

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 Richard keeps asking Brolin, is that one of them? I don't know. Could be. Don't know. But the great tiny character moment that I think it capsulates them wonderfully is when they first order their drinks at the bar. James like whiskey. Richard's like, I'll have a vodka martini with a twist. Yeah. Well, they're supposed to be the old West.

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 The one thing I didn't get that I wonder if it was if it was supposed to be like a pickup shot or something like that, as they said, you can tell by their hands. They haven't perfected their hands yet. But every time I saw anybody's hands, they looked fine. They showed them once. It's very little. If you look between the the knuckles right here, there's like a it looks like they took a little bit of putty or something and just made a line. Oh, OK. I missed that. Yeah, it's not shown very often and it's not very obvious. Like that's the only problem. All right. How about the glowing eyes? That's a little. Yeah, it's the eyes seem to be the giveaway to me. But what about this? You're allowed to have sex with these robots and everything. You mean they were able to perfect a vagina, but you could figure out how to make the hands look like. Nice. Well, you know, it's just like A.I., I guess they foretold A.I. You just can't get the hands. It takes a while. Right. Right.

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 So you've now run into Yul Brenner, who plays the role of being the guy who kind of pushes him around until he finally shoots him, takes him out. And Westworld is not messing around with the way you kill people. They get blood and you get all the all the stuff going on with it. It's like, OK, that would feel really weird to do. Yeah.

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 And then a touch of the medieval world. Oh, also forgot that

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 for a brief bit and then sort of disappears and kind of reappears. But for no real reason is Dick Van Pat. Yeah. Almost feels like after he became sheriff later on, the something else should have happened. But then really other than the big bar fight. Yeah. I wonder, did you notice that the the owner of the whorehouse was Nurse Chapel? Oh, is that who that was? I usually that was that was Jean Roddenberry's wife right there. Very, very recognized. And I recognize, well, she's a handsome woman.

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 Nice way of putting it.

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 Just move on from that.

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 From there, they go to medieval world to give you kind of a touch of what goes on there. And they they really barely they do very little with the Roman world, but it shows up somewhat anyways. Costumes are so rough there. I'm just. Yeah. Oh, the medieval. Yeah. I feel like you could tell where the movie decided to spend some time. Yes, they had pretty little budget. You've got that in what it was. Bad community theater outfits in the Roman world. Oh, yeah.

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 Let's just give everybody some pillars and we're good.

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 The.

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 Where was that? Oh, yes. And of course, the other major part of Westworld, Kelly mentioned was the brothels.

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 We are talking about two male characters. So let's see, Kill and.

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 What you going to do next?

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 Drink. That is a horribly uncomfortable scene.

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 When Richard. Yeah. Is it the brothel? It's like, I love it. I love it. I think it's so cool. It's so weird.

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 And it's perfect for the character he is. So yes. And the rest of the movie really needed to lean into that, I think.

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 Because that was one of the scenes I think is is really strong. Yeah. There's a lot going on for.

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 I mean, like I said, it's really uncomfortable. It's unusual. It's like, does he want to do this?

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 Which was followed by, I thought, one of the more beautiful segments in the movie where they go out and they show the machine that comes up and picks all the dead androids up off of the ground. And it's just amazingly well shot with this wild blue darkness and interesting kind of interesting music. There's some weird music in this movie at times, but I was a little more interesting. And then where they go. And then as soon as the body drops on the robot drops on the.

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 Bed. Yeah, it totally switches. It becomes very scientific, very cold and very bright. That was a surprisingly well directed couple of segments for a first time director.

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 Yeah. But but then. But that gives you the idea of everything that's going on. And it nicely hints that something seems to be wrong here.

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 One thing they do too is a nice job of making the tech look a little unusual. You know, it doesn't look straight out of most 70s movies. Tech still horribly dated combined modern comparison. But it's not just a walls of the reel to reel things and all this stuff you always see. It's slightly different. I thought was kind of cool.

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 Let's see. Oh, and this this lovely line that goes right into our modern times to one of the I think the lead doctor said in some cases designed by other computers. We don't know exactly how they work. Yeah.

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 Like, oh, that's nice.

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 From there, they run into you a little bit more and I mean, it's basic Westworld kind of stuff. And suddenly he ends up in jail for shooting you one more time. And I was like, this feels very odd. And I spent a long time. So I watched it. So is this where things have started to go wrong?

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 It's just time for Richard and Brolin to become outlaws. He breaks him out of jail and they go out into the desert where something does go wrong.

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 Yeah. Snake. Him shooting at the snake and not being able to hit it. And it actually bites him. So it's like, this is trouble.

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 But then they go and have a big ball and things are seem to be normal for what it should be. Nobody in the brawl. That's human gets horribly hurt. And just it's a long scene.

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 Yeah. Oh, well, mostly the last, which I thought was weird.

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 Like, this is a.

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 This feels like it should have been earlier. Yeah. The ballroom brawl should have been like maybe after he shoots you the first time or something. But what you're going to do.

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 They're still refusing to shut it down until we go back to medieval world and there's a sword fight where someone dies. Yeah, he's not really main characters. They're just there. He was that he was in this movie to serve that purpose. Although he also tried earlier, he tried to seduce what was supposed to be a willing woman robot and it didn't work. And then later the same guy gets killed on the sword. So yeah, sorry, dude. Rough time.

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 The they try to shut it down now, of course, and nothing happens because it's too late. How's taken over the.

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 You'll ends up killing Brolin, which is an interesting way of the beginning of him being John Wayne.

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 And now the hero guy who typically in Westerns would be the guy to save the day and do all that stuff while having his Richard sidekick buddy.

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 Learning at his feet is gone. Yeah.

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 Which worked well. This is smart little fell.

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 Now I've lost my face in my notes. So if you have comments, feel free.

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 The Oh, that digitized vision of what you see when you'll Brenner looks is the first use of computer digitized image as part of a film, not merely monitor graphics or something like that.

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 It was process was developed enough to produce satisfactory results and and really not too bad a time if you think about it to produce 10 seconds took eight hours. Well, huh. But that pixelated POV is all computer generated. Oh, yeah, I remember they did a bunch of tech invention for a future world as well. There was like the joy of 70's sci fi inventions.

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 I got to say, I thought that, you know, Craig was a true futurist. Oh, the fact that he's talking about a virus type thing in a computer at a time when the technology is basically, you know, the transistors on board and shit like that. He's really fucking tapping into what is on its way.

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 That term really didn't mean what it means to us until a couple of years after this movie when that actually happened. Yeah, you're right. There's no

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 the computers at that time when you've had a yeah.

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 Yeah, let's see. He did some weird stuff, but he also did some amazingly interesting futuristic thinking.

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 Which made reading some of his books a little tedious.

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 I got on a huge I went in and I went on a huge crepe and kick after Jurassic Park and just read everything. I I'm a big big fan of his stuff. Oh, yeah, I did the same thing. Did the same thing. Probably like a whole lot of people did in the 90s. Oh, Jurassic Park. Let's read his books.

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 You know, there's a little thing that happens like leaving his gun behind when the old Brenner is chasing him at one point. It's like, okay, you made it work, but that still feels a little weird and sort of unnecessary because he didn't seem to be able to do a damn thing against him with his gun. So, but, you know, what are you going to do? A man without his gun.

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 And now now it's sort of like the end of Blazing Saddles. Let's run through all the let's have Richard run through all the how all the world. He can't just find an escape hatch in Westworld. He's got to run through medieval world and then he's got to run through Rome world.

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 I mean, I love you. I mean, you'll bring a precursor to the Terminator. I mean, for sure. Just indestructible, unstoppable.

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 Following you in ways you wouldn't expect. And like the heat sensor of where he'd stepped. He's like, yeah, that's so cool.

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 Although the music was a little bizarre at that point. That's just this weird staccato hit. But that's okay. Another thing I thought looked odd in the robots was the horse.

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 Just the horse laying in the same place where they have all the humans being worked on as a robot. Jesus. That would not be the best way to do that.

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 Let's see. And the end was fun and clever. There was nothing earth shattering, you know, sort of like.

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 With the comparison Terminator, you had moments that kept building to him being taken out. This one had a couple. The acid in the fire is pretty much the only time he really did anything against the whole ending. And the acid didn't do much.

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 Well, it gave us the fembot face. Yeah. Where we got to see his camera eyes and stuff. Yeah, it's cool. But and I thought the tacked on thing where he tries to save the woman was also out of place. That just felt like the wrong time for that.

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 But I also like OK, so she can't have water in her mouth or she starts sparking and short circuiting, you know, which seemed like that was a huge reaction to a little bit of water. They have sex. There's going to be fluids being passed on, right? And that's a problem. Well, here's the problem. I've got some notes here. This movie like falls apart under any real scrutiny. So.

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 So the guns thing that really made me scratch my head. They they make a point of showing that if you point the gun at a human, it won't fire. Right. And so it can tell. But then that suggests that it is actually shooting some kind of bullets, right? Or some kind of projectile and that you're actually hitting the robots with the projectile. Well, people in real life are killed by stray bullets all the time and gunfights. So what happens if you're shooting it and it and it misses the robot that you're shooting at and hits a person that, you know, one of the guests. And then why would that be a thing? Why not just make a thing that the gun is like, you know, some kind of, you know, laser tag infrared? Yeah. And then it becomes even harder to explain once we get into the medieval world where they're using real swords. What's to stop? What's to stop some guy to just taken out a real person with a sword. It just becomes blunt.

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 Automatic armor. They make a point of how drunk everybody gets in this place. And I'm like, OK, now give a bunch of drunk men swords and see what happens. It's not going to go well. Also, you talk about the the part where he's thrown in jail. Well, they break him out with like dynamite. I'm like, that's like real dynamite. So how does that work? And also, that's the thing I was thinking about when when they have that amazing scene where the cleanup crew comes and picks up all the bodies and everything. Well, what about the construction that has to be done on the jail to put that together for the next day or or the bullets in the wood and broken things, broken chairs and all that stuff? I was part of what I was thinking with the nighttime scene that looked really cool, but same time going so do they drug everybody, all the real people? So nobody's wandering around at night seeing this giant machine coming out and picking up all the bodies. But I guess you're you're so tired that you're sleeping at four in the morning or whatever.

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 I also love that it is it's just like any other disaster movie in that we go down to the the people, the authorities who are running the park and they have the chance to shut this all down early and they weigh the risks and go, no, this is going to cost way too much to shut this down. And I'm sure it'll be fine. And then when we finally see Richard Benjamin gets down to that lower level and everything, they've all been sealed in there and asphyxiated without oxygen. I was like, oh, this is a nice touch. Yeah, that was smart. Yeah. And dumb of the designers.

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 Right. What's what? What do you think of the movie? I'm going to say, Evan said too much. Yeah, sorry. Anyway, being semi distracted. Yeah, no, it's just like you had been a little while since I had seen it. So like I remembered certain things being a little bit hokey or but yeah, I think that the the cool like tech stuff also really stood out to me where it was like, oh, man, like, I don't know how I even thought put together like the shuttle. And yeah, I don't know. I was I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Cool.

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 I got some trivia, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, one of the large in nineteen being in nineteen seventy three film was a pretty big influence on the dystopian sci fi movies of the seventies, just in general look and the way things were done.

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 Richard Benjamin and James Brolin were cast forty eight hours before filming began. Wow. What? It was filmed in 30 days. Oh, my God. At least in theaters five months later. Holy cow. Yeah.

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 I'm guessing that's probably why Crichton took another ten five years to direct Coma. So that was not fun. But an insane schedule for all that. You throw in the first time computer effects have been used and all the stuff that was going on there. It's like, Jesus, five months. Yeah.

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 The Yule Brenner is kind of a spoof of his magnificent seven character. He's wearing the same costume. Yeah. He looks good, too. He looks cool in a black. Yeah. The only the only weirdness is he's pretty short and they most of all, they avoid it quite well. But there's like a scene in the first bar where he walks by. It's like, shouldn't have walked right by James Brolin there.

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 But yeah, he is wonderful. For modern audiences, Terminator, Terminator two style robotic character. Let's see. The future will then come out to seventy six. So it took a little while to get there. And then there is the ill-fated 1980 TV series.

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 And last season. Yep. That's the one. And of course, the six.

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 I've got the four episodes that played. Yeah. And they're really bad.

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 Well, the most more successful, at least first season of the HBO series of Westworld. Yeah. But first season was great. Second season dipped a little bit. So if they had like a couple of really good episodes and then boy, I don't think I finished three. Yeah. I remember getting through one and loving it and then to some somewhere in there. I stopped, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Crayton called this a movie about people acting out movie fantasies, which is pretty much exactly what it is. He structured, intentionally structured the movie around old movies, noting cliche situations like the shootout in the saloon, sword fight in a banquet hall, the bar room brawl and a tight audience, trying to tie audiences vague memories of seeing you before in a way that I'm wondering what it would be like to be an actor in an old movie. Let's say he pulled that off.

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 Where am I? Crayton said he didn't see technology as being out there doing bad things to us. People like we were inside the circle of covered wagons and technology is out there firing arrows at us. We're making them the technology and it's a manifestation of how we think the extent that we think egotistically and irrationally and paranoidly and foolishly. Then we have technology that would give us nuclear winters or cars that won't break. But that's because people don't design them right. No. It's a direct quote from Crayton on that. Making the movie. I think it's a $1.5 million budget.

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 So it had a lot going against it and I think they pull it off really well.

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 Most of the trivia leans that way about just the idea of what he was trying to create as opposed to the practicalities. Oh, $1.25 million budget. How did he get funding for this? I didn't see too much about that. It was largely independent. I don't think it was done studio-wise at that budget level.

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 They reused sets and costumes that appeared in previous films and television productions, which is why some of them looked so familiar with it. That leaned into what he was trying to do with the movie too. That's true. Eric, is there anything cool and special on this new Blu-ray release? A lot. I wish I had more time for it. I did read the 50-page book or whatever that comes with it. That's where I got most of those quotes that I was saying directly from this, which is pretty darn good. And of course, it's Arrow, so they send you the weird... Here's a folded poster.

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 That's kind of cool.

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 I just keep them in my DVD series. Is that the one that has his face as the robot face? Yes. That is a cool poster. This one. This is one side of the poster and this is the other side is a new art piece. Cool. That's a two-sided poster.

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 And yeah, the extras are this giant paragraph.

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 I did watch a couple of the documents, like an interview with Richard now. It was a fun interview, but he didn't say things like, "Oh, I've got to talk about that." But I think it was also the original writer. The two of them were talking last year, 2025.

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 Wow. So they put a lot of new stuff in there.

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 Multiple audio comedy commentaries and some of the original old stuff and the Westworld pilot episode, Beyond Westworld. It's apparently on here.

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 But unfortunately, I didn't have time to watch a lot of them, but I will be watching some of them for sure. Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, I feel like I have to go. I have to purchase so many things now. What the heck? The nice part is it's Blu-ray. So, you know, it's 20 to 30 dollars less than if it was a 4K. So I appreciate that. Yeah, I know. It's a sad world we're in right now. We're like, "Oh, thank God they didn't put out a 4K."

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 It's going to save me at least 20 dollars. Yeah, I do that too. Like Excalibur came out in 4K. I'm going, "I'm going to drop the window." I'm going to do a full-time comedy for that.

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 Yeah, my Ninja Turtles 4K is like, "I don't think we need to see these costumes that clearly, guys." All right.

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 Hellraiser.

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 Oh, wow.

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 This is probably the movie I have the most copies of in various different ways. It's either this or the Evil Dead movies.

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 Yeah.

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 It's a sickness. Yeah, nice. Thank you. What a great choice. Yeah, good pick.

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 It was better than I remembered it, which is a wonderful surprise when you watch an older movie like that.

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 Yeah, I mean, it's clearly of its time and it shows its weaknesses, but it's super, super entertaining. Yeah.

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 Vanessa, that means that you have the next pick. Oh, my gosh. Well, now I have to remember.

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 Oh, yes.

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 So I want to take advantage, old-school style, of our show to see a movie that I have not yet seen and has been on my list forever. So I'm going to go with Opera.

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 Opera. Okay. I have not seen this either. So yeah, this is the first Argento film. Sorry. I can't believe you haven't seen it, Kelly. That's crazy to me. Like, I feel like I'm the one who's always catching up to you guys.

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 I believe Kelly hasn't seen it.

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 Yeah. My love for Italian horror is legendary.

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 I, however, like it is the first time. I've seen this. I've seen this. It's a very gentle film I saw. So.

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 I'm curious to revisit it. I think mine was the spirit and then deep bread. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. And then phenomena. And I was like, yes.

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 Razor blade monkeys. I'm in.

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 I like phenomena as well. Yeah.

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 Eric phenomena.

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 Nama. Okay, guys, this is the part where we say thanks to everybody who's out there watching. Interacting.

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 Sharing an episode when it drops.

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 Dropping comments underneath the YouTube channel, especially if you're out there donating. Cash every little bit. Put some wind in the sails of this pirate ship and we really, really appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, thank you. Vanessa, how else can they reach us?

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 You don't have a memorize. I don't have that piece of paper. If you hold it up, I can read it. They can reach us on the strange eons radio hotline, which is two, five, three, two, three, seven, four, two, six, six. What the, what should they do if they dial that Vanessa? You should go ahead and leave us a voicemail. Let us know what you think of the show. Um, any, uh, hot takes or less than hot takes. We would love to hear from you. Any recommendations or just, you know, just drop us a line, say hi. You can also text us on that number as well. And Eric is standing by waiting eagerly for your message. Can't wait for your lukewarm takes.

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 Um, all right, gang. I think that's it. Uh, it's getting late. Uh, we will be meeting in person for the next episode. So we will be back in two short weeks and we're going to be talking about opera. See you next time.

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 Goodbye. Goodbye.

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