355 BEYOND THUNDERDOME!

355 BEYOND THUNDERDOME! 

The gang continues Mad Maxathon with the third film of the series.

Also discussed: The Furious, Deep Water, The Vampire Lestat.

Transcript

[01:00:26:01 - 01:00:28:08]
Speaker 25
 It is not for me.

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Speaker 2
 It is not for me.

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Speaker 2
 It

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Speaker 3
 is not for me.

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Speaker 2
 It

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Speaker 1
 is not for me.

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Speaker 3
 It

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Speaker 1
 is not

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Speaker 2
 for me.

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Speaker 1
 It is a really cool looking movie. You would take that cloud.

[01:03:04:17 - 01:03:06:08]
Speaker 3
 The work is so good.

[01:03:06:08 - 01:03:09:11]
Speaker 1
 But now that you put that out into the world.

[01:03:09:11 - 01:03:10:23]
Speaker 3
 People are going to not hire you.

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Speaker 1
 A producer is going to go, "Are you that good?" I want to take the chance if you decide

[01:03:20:06 - 01:03:21:08]
Speaker 2
 to blow it up.

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Speaker 3
 That is a good point. It is really, unfortunately, like you said, it is a reputation at that point. The whole thing is a gamble. The people who are putting money into movies, it is a gambling system. That is how they see it. They don't care about the art. If you are going to put that at risk,

[01:03:42:12 - 01:03:47:16]
Speaker 3
 you are the part of the piece of the puzzle that the gamblers can take out very easily.

[01:03:47:16 - 01:03:49:09]
Speaker 1
 If you are in one thing,

[01:03:51:17 - 01:04:03:00]
Speaker 1
 budgetary terms here above the line crew is the ones that get a lot of money. Generally the actors, the director, the writer. Below the line crew is usually set fees, set amounts.

[01:04:03:00 - 01:04:04:09]
Speaker 2
 It is standard.

[01:04:04:09 - 01:04:17:13]
Speaker 1
 You agree to some kind of a thing when it is a very low budget movie, obviously. I get the thinking to where it is like, it would be cool if you shared some of that with us.

[01:04:19:04 - 01:04:27:23]
Speaker 3
 There is an interesting conversation actually. I heard, I think it was for back rooms, that there were people who were not paid.

[01:04:27:23 - 01:04:30:18]
Speaker 1
 Oh, really? That one had a $10 million budget.

[01:04:30:18 - 01:04:31:06]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

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Speaker 3
 I thought it was for back rooms. There were people who were literally not paid and now that the movie is out there and doing really well, they are like, are you going to

[01:04:41:00 - 01:04:44:13]
Speaker 3
 pay us the amount that you promised in the first place?

[01:04:44:13 - 01:04:54:12]
Speaker 1
 There are contracts in there, he has to. But then again, it is the Hollywood system. Yeah, it says we made a lot of money, but the studio is spent.

[01:04:54:12 - 01:05:07:13]
Speaker 3
 That is like every Harry Potter movie technically failed. Yeah. Because they wanted tax write-offs. So they found a way to make it look like every single one of them didn't make any money. Exactly. When we all know that is not for kids. Yeah.

[01:05:07:13 - 01:05:08:18]
Speaker 1
 They would not have made them.

[01:05:08:18 - 01:05:14:16]
Speaker 3
 They also stole the wallpaper for back rooms too, unfortunately.

[01:05:14:16 - 01:05:16:07]
Speaker 1
 It is a copyrighted.

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Speaker 3
 No. So what happened is all of this is based for back rooms off of an original image that was on, was it 4chan? It was a picture somebody took of a building that was being renovated. And he said, isn't this weird? And posted this picture. That wallpaper that is used in there is the same wallpaper they are using in the main movie. They contacted the person who did the photo. They happened to have a scrap of that wallpaper. And they said, hey, would you mind like scanning it in and like sending it to us? And he did that under the understanding that maybe they would at least say thank you in the credits or something. He didn't expect payment. He just thought there would be some kind of credit. Didn't say a damn thing to him. And now they're selling it on their website and stuff. I know because I'm like a 24 member. Yeah, they're like selling that image. So it's like, oh, there's some. That's rough. That's really rough.

[01:06:14:00 - 01:06:14:20]
Speaker 1
 And that.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah, that that feels like a thing that could. Should have been taken care of, but also very easily fall through the cracks, depending on how it was. Was it the director's like, oh, we're starting to get a movie. I should reach out for that. Or was it the movie was rolling and things are going in a production assistant or somebody reached out or

[01:06:34:11 - 01:06:49:00]
Speaker 3
 could be or could. So it's really weird when they start selling an image that they didn't originally like they know at that point when they're producing it and they're using a file and you have to know at some point.

[01:06:50:06 - 01:07:10:18]
Speaker 3
 I don't know. It gets a little it gets a little dicey, but I don't know. It's a complicated system because when you're working with an originally low budget or we don't know if this movie is going to go anywhere, even if it's a moderate budget piece, people can get run over in that system. And

[01:07:11:22 - 01:07:19:18]
Speaker 3
 what do you do when it blows up and all of a sudden? I mean, this happens every day, but what do you do when the spotlight shows up on it? It is a weird world.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. The the I understand both sides of this. Yeah, I think the thing that the art director should do is then, you know, just wherever she went next was like, you know, the thing that they're saying is looks way more expensive than it actually was. That's because of what I did.

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Speaker 3
 That's what my budget was.

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Speaker 2
 And guess how I did this. And you parlay that into a bigger career because the people who generally get the money are the people who have taken the risks. And you're getting paid. You're not taking risk. Yeah, you're not putting your money up for possible no return.

[01:07:59:04 - 01:08:00:08]
Speaker 2
 The

[01:08:02:00 - 01:08:11:23]
Speaker 2
 nice thing maybe to do is the director to say, you know, you did so great. I'll use you in my next movie, except now. Would you happen? Would you now?

[01:08:11:23 - 01:08:18:02]
Speaker 3
 No, no, they definitely won't. They definitely won't. As soon as you talk to the press about that kind of stuff, forget it. That's not going to happen.

[01:08:18:02 - 01:08:23:00]
Speaker 2
 Well, and also talk to the press about what you made a contract and they paid you what they said they would.

[01:08:23:00 - 01:09:00:13]
Speaker 3
 I mean, that's that's the thing. So when I've worked on feature films, I have never made above minimum wage ever. But like on paper Tigers like I so I worked on that first six, seven months and I made minimum wage, which I agreed to on the phone with a person I really respect and said, yes, I will work for this amount. It was totally fine, but my editor made significantly less that I was assisting, but he was on a point system. So, you know, it depends on what your deal is. It just depends on your agreement. You, to an extent, should know what you're

[01:09:01:14 - 01:09:02:08]
Speaker 3
 getting into.

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Speaker 1
 There's a couple like I Atsi and a couple of the unions that have a say if you're working in their system. But if you're not involved with those, it's whatever

[01:09:13:08 - 01:09:25:04]
Speaker 2
 this is part of her complaint was that this was a nonunion shoot. And we have things called nonunion shoots. Yeah, this there is really no way to get around that then.

[01:09:25:04 - 01:09:36:04]
Speaker 3
 I wonder where they shot because like in Seattle, it's almost all nonunion. And if your union, they don't hire here. They bring people in. Yeah, because there are so few union people up here.

[01:09:38:03 - 01:09:51:12]
Speaker 3
 It's just common here that like you just don't even expect any of those kinds of things to be in place. But if I wonder if it was shot in L.A., in which case, like being on a nonunion shoot is almost weird to an extent.

[01:09:52:18 - 01:09:56:13]
Speaker 2
 Seven hundred fifty thousand dollar budget, though. So for

[01:09:56:13 - 01:10:00:04]
Speaker 3
 obsession, obsession. That's pretty impressive for the effects.

[01:10:00:04 - 01:10:11:00]
Speaker 2
 That's a look and stuff. Yeah, I think that's part of what everybody is saying is this movie looks way more expensive than seven hundred fifty thousand. I mean, she is part of that reason. It looks that good,

[01:10:11:00 - 01:10:15:15]
Speaker 1
 which is why you should would get paid a lot more if you just if you played the system.

[01:10:15:15 - 01:10:22:17]
Speaker 2
 If this was a friend of mine and they came to me and said, I'm thinking of doing this, I would say I understand your frustration.

[01:10:23:19 - 01:10:35:15]
Speaker 2
 It sounds shitty because if they were to say, also, he made a pass at me or he grabbed my tater or something like that. I don't want to say, well, don't don't hold back on that. Right. We want to stop that from happening.

[01:10:35:15 - 01:10:36:07]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:10:37:09 - 01:10:42:13]
Speaker 2
 But, you know, this is not that. Yeah. You signed the contract and you got paid.

[01:10:42:13 - 01:10:51:05]
Speaker 1
 I mean, did you reach out to the director and he was an asshole to you about it or did you just dive right in and make your public post?

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. I'm curious to you. Like, was this she posted something online or was it

[01:10:56:17 - 01:10:58:05]
Speaker 1
 Instagram or something?

[01:10:58:05 - 01:11:05:17]
Speaker 2
 And his response to it because, you know, they they came to him and said, what do you say to this? His response was very measured. It was

[01:11:06:18 - 01:11:17:08]
Speaker 2
 it was like, I appreciate everybody who did the brilliant work that they did on this film. And I would like to see them get the recognition they deserve.

[01:11:18:12 - 01:11:22:10]
Speaker 2
 Generally, the people who put up the risk are the people who get the reward.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

[01:11:24:10 - 01:11:31:17]
Speaker 1
 And even if our director had points, you're in the lower line of getting those points.

[01:11:31:17 - 01:11:39:13]
Speaker 2
 Well, and as the director, he might not have made much money on this film either. He made a fucking deal afterwards.

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Speaker 3
 Yeah, exactly. He's got, you know, how many pictures down the road with however many companies he's talking to. That's I mean, it is a reputation game. Like the film industry is not like any other industry out there. It is so wild west.

[01:11:54:05 - 01:11:54:17]
Speaker 1
 Yeah.

[01:11:54:17 - 01:11:59:13]
Speaker 3
 And you have to know how to play a really scary game.

[01:11:59:13 - 01:12:05:10]
Speaker 1
 And if you get into the upper budgets, you're talking a really small, relatively speaking, a very small amount of people.

[01:12:05:10 - 01:12:05:19]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:12:05:19 - 01:12:14:17]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's really interesting. It's weird that it is weird we're having this conversation about two small indie horror films that are.

[01:12:15:18 - 01:12:17:20]
Speaker 2
 Side note, I saw back rooms. Not for me.

[01:12:17:20 - 01:12:18:20]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, I didn't think it would be.

[01:12:18:20 - 01:12:26:19]
Speaker 2
 I didn't get most of it. But I have seen the back rooms series and I didn't get most of that either. I was like, I don't understand the appeal to this.

[01:12:26:19 - 01:12:27:07]
Speaker 3
 But

[01:12:28:14 - 01:12:29:22]
Speaker 3
 not your not your.

[01:12:29:22 - 01:12:36:10]
Speaker 2
 I was like, I understand why people are really loving this because there's there's a lot of lore. Yeah. And that kind of stuff.

[01:12:36:10 - 01:12:43:07]
Speaker 3
 I'm amazed. It's as popular as it is. And I like back rooms, but I was also like, how it is.

[01:12:43:07 - 01:12:50:22]
Speaker 1
 It is. I can see obsession why it took off and I get why people are going to see that back rooms was like, holy shit. Really?

[01:12:50:22 - 01:12:51:13]
Speaker 4
 Yeah. Yeah.

[01:12:51:13 - 01:12:54:01]
Speaker 1
 And you got 10 mil to make this movie.

[01:12:54:01 - 01:12:56:08]
Speaker 3
 Also, yes. Very good.

[01:12:57:15 - 01:12:58:04]
Speaker 3
 Very good.

[01:12:58:04 - 01:12:59:00]
Speaker 2
 OK,

[01:13:00:16 - 01:13:11:01]
Speaker 2
 let's see. Besides back rooms, I have seen some other stuff for you guys. Nobody is more surprised than I am at how much I fucking love the vampire list at on AMC.

[01:13:11:01 - 01:13:17:09]
Speaker 1
 I've been seeing so many good things about what's going on. Is this a new series or it is season

[01:13:17:09 - 01:13:53:09]
Speaker 2
 three of interview with the vampire and they have just changed the name and started calling it the vampire list that and it is adapting that book. You know, as much as I did not like the changes they made to interview, I did think that the guy they cast as the stat was really good. And now as they adapt the new book, I'm just like fucking in love with this show. The music is cool and he's cool and the effects are really cool. I got to say, well, I am totally on board. I guess I'm going to have to go back and watch the second season of the interview.

[01:13:53:09 - 01:13:56:10]
Speaker 1
 That was my favorite book by far. Probably all of her writing.

[01:13:56:10 - 01:13:57:03]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, mine too.

[01:13:57:03 - 01:14:01:22]
Speaker 1
 And I saw that they do the rock star stuff. And that's cool.

[01:14:01:22 - 01:14:15:02]
Speaker 2
 I really love this guy. They got, you know, looks exactly like he should. But prior to the new series starting, they did a big event where he came out with a band and sang like four songs. I was like, God damn it. They're doing this thing right.

[01:14:15:02 - 01:14:16:00]
Speaker 1
 That's cool.

[01:14:16:00 - 01:14:18:07]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. So that's on AMC.

[01:14:19:22 - 01:14:27:10]
Speaker 2
 If you're a purist, I would say give you know, you don't you know what happens in the interview with the vampire. So just start on season three.

[01:14:28:12 - 01:14:29:02]
Speaker 1
 Sounds cool.

[01:14:29:02 - 01:14:31:07]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. So vampire set on AMC.

[01:14:32:15 - 01:14:48:01]
Speaker 3
 Well, I gave Spider-Man noir ago, kind of. I watched, I think the first episode, but I did. I was having a real struggle. I was having a real struggle, like staying conscious through the first episode.

[01:14:49:09 - 01:14:53:10]
Speaker 3
 It was it is not for me. It is really not for me.

[01:14:53:10 - 01:14:55:04]
Speaker 1
 I'm not a noir person.

[01:14:55:04 - 01:15:20:22]
Speaker 3
 I think that's part of it. I think I already don't love noir. So there's that. I think that he watching him be kind of clunky, like running around with like sometimes an accent, sometimes not. And like trying to hit on this like much more beautiful younger girl and like, oh, like just it was rough around the edges. I could not I could not get into it.

[01:15:20:22 - 01:15:28:23]
Speaker 2
 He's just getting a little long in the tooth to be playing a superhero, but I liked how they made him a retired superhero.

[01:15:28:23 - 01:15:42:12]
Speaker 3
 I don't mind that part. It's just still the fact that it's an action role. Like if he's only doing detective work and he's not like in big fights and having to swing around and be a love interest to somebody, then it's fine.

[01:15:42:12 - 01:15:46:19]
Speaker 2
 But does Nicholas Cage not deserve love? What do you think?

[01:15:46:19 - 01:16:10:01]
Speaker 3
 Look, I don't think Tom Cruise deserves love. Every time that man goes to kiss somebody on screen, I'm like, you stop what you're doing right now and you get your mouth off of that poor woman. Wow. Yeah, it's not just Cage. You know, I think there's plenty of incredible roles out there for him. But I just it's one thing when it's animated, but watching it live action, I just couldn't I couldn't do it.

[01:16:10:01 - 01:16:25:18]
Speaker 1
 I did have one weird reaction with what you mentioned there with a woman he's hitting on because he remember his wife and kids were at the screening and Lovecraft and sat right next to us. I'm like, did he have a hand in casting this woman for the role? Because there's a strong similarity to his wife.

[01:16:25:18 - 01:16:36:05]
Speaker 2
 I think ex-wife now. Maybe that's why he's like, oh, shit. I don't know if that's true or not, but for some reason I thought that they were not together anymore.

[01:16:36:05 - 01:16:41:14]
Speaker 1
 I mean, it is Hollywood person. He is a strange Hollywood person. So the odds are good. He's a weirdo.

[01:16:41:14 - 01:16:54:06]
Speaker 2
 Boy, I think that the show was was pretty good. It had ups and downs. And we talked a little bit about, you know, his his 40s speech comes and goes.

[01:16:54:06 - 01:16:55:00]
Speaker 3
 It really does.

[01:16:57:17 - 01:17:00:03]
Speaker 1
 I wanted him to double down on that noir speak.

[01:17:00:03 - 01:17:03:03]
Speaker 2
 But yeah, did you watch it in color or black and white?

[01:17:03:03 - 01:17:03:16]
Speaker 3
 I watched it in color.

[01:17:03:16 - 01:17:06:00]
Speaker 2
 And still, it was too noir-ish for you.

[01:17:06:00 - 01:17:15:10]
Speaker 3
 It was still too noir. Yeah, it's just like I just don't. There's something about noir that for the most part, it's not always there's every once in a while there's noir that I get into. I like brick.

[01:17:15:10 - 01:17:19:09]
Speaker 2
 But I can't wait to push noirvember again.

[01:17:19:09 - 01:17:23:05]
Speaker 3
 There you go. Let's do it. Go back to ninjas.

[01:17:23:05 - 01:17:26:08]
Speaker 1
 We'll go to noirvember and disco december.

[01:17:26:08 - 01:17:29:23]
Speaker 3
 I don't need to be a part of this podcast anymore.

[01:17:29:23 - 01:17:31:01]
Speaker 2
 Discocember.

[01:17:31:01 - 01:17:33:03]
Speaker 3
 Discocember, yes. Oh, my God.

[01:17:35:14 - 01:17:38:06]
Speaker 2
 Spider-Man noir. Amazon Prime.

[01:17:38:06 - 01:17:45:09]
Speaker 1
 Alrighty, so I watched the field and movie last year. This year, whenever it came out. If I had legs, I'd kick you.

[01:17:45:09 - 01:17:47:17]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I've heard a lot about this movie.

[01:17:47:17 - 01:17:48:19]
Speaker 1
 E2-4 film.

[01:17:50:04 - 01:17:57:03]
Speaker 1
 Horribly hard film to watch. Bad title. Yes, it's a weird title. But I couldn't stop watching it. It's

[01:17:58:13 - 01:18:04:12]
Speaker 1
 not hard watch because it's bad. It's a hard watch because it's good. And that...

[01:18:05:21 - 01:18:14:00]
Speaker 1
 I don't quite know why it's released as horror. It has some slight horror elements. It showed up on a few lists as an action.

[01:18:14:00 - 01:18:15:05]
Speaker 3
 I thought it was more of a,

[01:18:16:16 - 01:18:20:18]
Speaker 3
 not even a thriller, but a drama with surrealist elements.

[01:18:20:18 - 01:18:23:14]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, that's more how I would put it. It's a family

[01:18:25:01 - 01:18:27:10]
Speaker 1
 shit goes wrong drama.

[01:18:29:14 - 01:18:43:01]
Speaker 1
 Life's crashing around. Linda the lead. And trying to figure out what's going on with her kid's illness. And she has a feeding tube in her stomach that she gets the idea that if she pulls it out, she'll be okay.

[01:18:44:10 - 01:18:45:23]
Speaker 1
 Her absent husband, who's

[01:18:47:11 - 01:18:58:11]
Speaker 1
 almost the entire time on the phone, and I just blanked on his name. Pump up the volume. Christian Slater is playing her husband. I'm going, that voice sounds so familiar.

[01:19:01:04 - 01:19:11:07]
Speaker 1
 And she has a therapist that she battles with who's Conan O'Brien. I believe it's with a therapist. And she's a therapist, which is...

[01:19:12:22 - 01:19:12:23]
Speaker 1
 Be

[01:19:14:06 - 01:19:18:22]
Speaker 1
 honest, growing up with a dad, a psychologist, all the friends of mine who say, "I want to be a psychologist too." It's like,

[01:19:20:03 - 01:19:25:03]
Speaker 1
 yeah, there were all the people that were like, you know, you want to treat yourself, don't you?

[01:19:26:05 - 01:19:32:20]
Speaker 1
 So that kind of follows in. But it's just so rough and so depressing.

[01:19:35:02 - 01:19:39:03]
Speaker 1
 Blanked on her. The performance is astounding. She is really good at it.

[01:19:39:03 - 01:19:40:02]
Speaker 3
 Is it Emily Blunt?

[01:19:41:09 - 01:19:44:05]
Speaker 2
 Oh, really? She's in that and then Disclosure Day?

[01:19:44:05 - 01:19:44:20]
Speaker 3
 No, it's...

[01:19:46:06 - 01:20:04:10]
Speaker 1
 Rose Byrne? Oh, Rose Byrne. I like her. She's really good. Conan O'Brien is surprisingly good. What is the premise of this movie? She's got a sick kid. She's just trying to take care of her sick kid and things are wrong at the school and things are wrong at home. The husband's never there.

[01:20:04:10 - 01:20:06:19]
Speaker 3
 Isn't their house like flood or something?

[01:20:06:19 - 01:20:12:18]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, shit goes wrong. The ceiling collapses in a flood.

[01:20:12:18 - 01:20:19:17]
Speaker 3
 I heard an interview with the filmmaker of this and it's actually based off of her life, like something that actually happened.

[01:20:19:17 - 01:20:20:22]
Speaker 1
 I absolutely believe that.

[01:20:20:22 - 01:20:24:04]
Speaker 3
 I think that's probably part of the brutality of it.

[01:20:24:04 - 01:20:25:04]
Speaker 1
 Mary Bronston.

[01:20:26:05 - 01:20:30:19]
Speaker 1
 I fully believe that, which was part of why it was so hard to watch, is it felt very...

[01:20:31:19 - 01:20:34:23]
Speaker 1
 worst case scenario, but absolutely plausible.

[01:20:36:04 - 01:20:37:13]
Speaker 1
 It's like, if

[01:20:38:19 - 01:20:48:15]
Speaker 1
 you're in what I'm saying, you will love this movie. But if you're not feeling... if you don't want to be sad and depressed and

[01:20:49:18 - 01:21:01:17]
Speaker 1
 the horrors of having a truly sick child and not being able to get the help for the kids you want and some of the mistakes she makes are entirely her own. And other things that happen, because

[01:21:02:20 - 01:21:04:05]
Speaker 1
 it's out of her control, it's just like...

[01:21:06:17 - 01:21:10:12]
Speaker 1
 It's hard to say I was glad to watch the movie, but it was an incredibly well done film.

[01:21:10:12 - 01:21:40:11]
Speaker 3
 I don't need to watch it. That's exactly how I felt watching, I think it was on Netflix, The Maid, which is where Margot Kweli came up through. And it was like that. It's like somebody who's just having a rough time. And it's based off of a book series, but it's every episode you're just sobbing. And it's almost cathartic, because I feel so awful right now. I don't know if this movie... I'm never going to watch this again, but I

[01:21:40:11 - 01:21:48:07]
Speaker 1
 think I'm glad I watched it. I don't know if this movie quite hits that moment to where there's a cathartic take down or anything. But

[01:21:49:11 - 01:21:53:09]
Speaker 1
 yeah, her performances, they're really, really good.

[01:21:53:09 - 01:21:55:00]
Speaker 2
 What did you watch that on?

[01:21:55:00 - 01:21:57:22]
Speaker 1
 I just wrote Rental on Amazon or something.

[01:21:59:20 - 01:22:06:23]
Speaker 2
 Well, speaking of rentals, there was no way that I was not going to rent the new Renny Harlan shark movie, Deep Water.

[01:22:06:23 - 01:22:10:03]
Speaker 1
 I shockingly did not hear about this one.

[01:22:10:03 - 01:22:21:10]
Speaker 2
 Oh my goodness. This is Aaron Eckhart, who I like as an actor, and I'm always just shocked at the shitty roles he can do. This is not a good movie, but it is a fun movie.

[01:22:21:10 - 01:22:27:13]
Speaker 1
 You know my feeling about Renny Harlan, but he can make a fun movie.

[01:22:27:13 - 01:22:27:18]
Speaker 2
 He

[01:22:29:05 - 01:22:46:10]
Speaker 2
 is a pilot on a plane that goes down, and he's got to get the survivors away from all the sharks. And of course, some of the survivors are fucking assholes, and all of the stuff that happens in these kind of movies. It is no deep blue sea.

[01:22:48:01 - 01:22:50:15]
Speaker 2
 But it is still fine.

[01:22:51:18 - 01:22:54:06]
Speaker 3
 It's no horrible CGI sci-fi.

[01:22:54:06 - 01:22:54:17]
Speaker 2
 You

[01:22:56:14 - 01:23:12:00]
Speaker 2
 might want to wait for it to get free. And then it's not even as good as Thrash, that movie that was on Netflix with the sharks invading the town. That was a really fun movie. This movie is not that much fun.

[01:23:13:03 - 01:23:17:01]
Speaker 1
 It's like Sharknado 3. No, it's not that bad.

[01:23:17:01 - 01:23:23:05]
Speaker 2
 It's got Ben Kingsley in the beginning of it. He's the main pilot. He does not survive the crash.

[01:23:24:21 - 01:23:32:00]
Speaker 2
 You're watching Ben Kingsley and Aaron Eckhart in a Renny Harlan movie, and you're like, "All right, give it to me!" And then it's like, "Mmm."

[01:23:34:10 - 01:23:35:10]
Speaker 2
 This could have been

[01:23:37:06 - 01:23:48:07]
Speaker 2
 Deep Blue Sea 4, or whatever they're up to now. And just make those sharks smart. Right? Yeah. I would have been happier with that, I think. Oh, well. Deep Blue.

[01:23:48:07 - 01:23:54:19]
Speaker 3
 I will now lower it on my potential unwatched shark movie list.

[01:23:57:17 - 01:24:10:10]
Speaker 3
 I haven't had a chance to watch a ton of stuff, but I was able to play through a little indie game, a horror game that I've seen bumping around for a long time now and finally played it. It's called Slay the Princess.

[01:24:10:10 - 01:24:11:06]
Speaker 2
 That sounds fun.

[01:24:11:06 - 01:25:09:01]
Speaker 3
 It's really interesting. I want to say play is a strong word for this because it's a very choose your own adventure-y model where it sets you up. You're looking at just a path in the woods, and there's a narrator speaking at you saying what the situation is. You need to go to this cabin, and you just slay the princess, or else the world will end. Then you select choices, and you start to have conversations with the narrator. Then you end up going to the cabin, and you have to make a decision as to whether or not the princess is somebody you should slay. You shouldn't slay. Do you try to help her escape? Do you try to escape with her? Do you kill her? Do you ask? Do you interrogate her? What is it that you do? It's a really goofy, silly game, and it doesn't end when you think it's going to end. You're like, "This game is still okay. What is happening now?"

[01:25:09:01 - 01:25:12:23]
Speaker 1
 Is it like a Zelda thing, like a tech space? Do you answer?

[01:25:14:13 - 01:25:18:17]
Speaker 3
 It's more like a tech. You don't type anything and you choose an answer.

[01:25:19:17 - 01:25:38:23]
Speaker 3
 It's very railroaded in that way. You only have so many options, but it definitely is a very fun, weird game. I was very happy that I managed to end it after like two hours because I was very tired. I was like, "This is still going. Oh my God." But it was fun. It was really well-written.

[01:25:38:23 - 01:25:49:13]
Speaker 2
 I know you're both gamers. Explain to your non-gamer friend, "It's an indie game?" I thought they were just big companies that put out these games. Are they tiny little indie games?

[01:25:49:13 - 01:26:33:03]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, that's mostly what I work on. There are people who are just in their basement who just spend a year or five years or ten years with an idea in their head. They learn how to program. They put something together all in their lonesome, and then they upload it to Steam, usually Steam. That's PC-based gaming. If they're lucky, they might get a deal with maybe Nintendo or PlayStation or somebody will pick it up or relaunch it or whatever that happens. Sometimes those games just blow up. It's like, "Wow, this one guy made this one game and now it's everywhere." That happens a lot. More and more often there's indie games. It's a huge, huge genre.

[01:26:33:03 - 01:26:38:12]
Speaker 2
 I should have expected that. I know that quietly

[01:26:39:18 - 01:26:47:00]
Speaker 2
 the big games, GTA and stuff like that, when they have an opening release, they're doing billions.

[01:26:48:22 - 01:26:58:12]
Speaker 2
 Four times an opening movie budget. I know that that's a huge industry. I guess I just never really thought about indie game making.

[01:26:58:12 - 01:27:41:10]
Speaker 3
 It's very similar to film in that way. Super, super similar. There's AAA titles like GTA. There's AA titles where you get a lower tier budget where it's maybe a smaller studio. Then you've got indie games, which are either a small group of friends or one guy or just a really small team where they're making these games. It's almost all small, small, small, independent game people. Then my husband on the other end does the AAA. He does the Halo game trailers and stuff. We're always comparing notes because he's like, "You wouldn't believe the conversations I'm having." I'm like, "I talked to no one today."

[01:27:43:11 - 01:27:45:11]
Speaker 1
 Well, he has to talk to a panel of people.

[01:27:46:15 - 01:27:56:12]
Speaker 3
 Just me and Joe Smith occasionally emailing. I go, "What do you think of this one?" They go, "Yeah, I like that." Or, "I don't know. Maybe something different."

[01:27:56:12 - 01:28:00:04]
Speaker 2
 Can you give me an example, a name of an indie game that made it big?

[01:28:00:04 - 01:28:09:04]
Speaker 3
 In the last couple of years, Vampire Survivors was a huge one. Even something like Minecraft started pretty small.

[01:28:09:04 - 01:28:11:09]
Speaker 2
 I have heard of this.

[01:28:11:09 - 01:28:26:22]
Speaker 3
 There are games that end up really blowing up. I'm trying to think of ones that you specifically would have maybe come across. There are certainly small little things that do really explode and get sequels or get remade.

[01:28:29:06 - 01:28:30:19]
Speaker 3
 That happens all the time.

[01:28:32:21 - 01:28:34:17]
Speaker 2
 Slay the Princess.

[01:28:36:01 - 01:28:40:08]
Speaker 3
 Five Nights at Freddy's is probably a pretty small budget one.

[01:28:40:08 - 01:28:41:20]
Speaker 2
 I've heard of this.

[01:28:43:05 - 01:28:45:05]
Speaker 3
 See? There, we found one. Before

[01:28:46:10 - 01:28:57:05]
Speaker 1
 I mention the movie I'm going to talk about, I want to talk about real quick the trailer that played before it. I read that movie Fall that was unexpectedly incredibly good with the women on top of the light tower.

[01:28:57:05 - 01:29:00:14]
Speaker 3
 I don't even want to look at it while we're talking about this.

[01:29:00:14 - 01:29:05:08]
Speaker 1
 They've done a sequel. I watched the trailer for the sequel on my computer.

[01:29:07:09 - 01:29:13:22]
Speaker 1
 That kind of gave me the weird feeling. I started playing the theme going, "Well, this is going to be interesting." And it was less.

[01:29:13:22 - 01:29:15:03]
Speaker 3
 Oh, interesting.

[01:29:15:03 - 01:29:19:20]
Speaker 1
 I don't know if it's because I'd already seen it or if it's just that I've blown up that big.

[01:29:19:20 - 01:29:20:15]
Speaker 2
 That doesn't work.

[01:29:20:15 - 01:29:39:02]
Speaker 1
 The effects, they're so much higher because they're on like a mount side of a mountain. You know those little bridges you see people walk against or walkways across the side of a mountain. It's one of those. And they're so high up that it's like this feels a little too little unreal.

[01:29:39:02 - 01:29:42:10]
Speaker 3
 I watched it on my computer and I want to die the trailer for it.

[01:29:42:10 - 01:29:48:12]
Speaker 1
 I thought that the first on the computer that worked really well. Big screen. I'm like, "The effects are not holding up."

[01:29:48:12 - 01:29:55:13]
Speaker 3
 I think it played on the big screen in front of one of the movies I watched. And I literally did not look at it. This experience you're talking about.

[01:29:57:10 - 01:29:58:10]
Speaker 3
 It's interesting.

[01:29:58:10 - 01:30:01:12]
Speaker 1
 But this was before The Furious.

[01:30:02:16 - 01:30:03:09]
Speaker 1
 I had the initial.

[01:30:03:09 - 01:30:06:12]
Speaker 3
 Oh, I've heard of this. Really?

[01:30:06:12 - 01:30:10:06]
Speaker 1
 It's so much fun. After we watched that

[01:30:11:12 - 01:30:37:11]
Speaker 1
 grayscale movie, which I thought was going to be a big action Asian Hong Kong kind of movie. A little bit of a very weird. I said, "Okay, I got a makeup one for you because she wanted to see a high action kind of movie like that too." I'm going, "I think this one's going to work." So we went to the theater there. It was at one of the AMC's. It was packed. It was playing one time that day.

[01:30:37:11 - 01:30:37:22]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:30:37:22 - 01:30:39:05]
Speaker 1
 And

[01:30:40:07 - 01:30:45:05]
Speaker 1
 it was so good. I would say it's right in there with the raid world. I like

[01:30:46:07 - 01:30:48:04]
Speaker 1
 Joy the Raid maybe a little bit more.

[01:30:49:15 - 01:30:52:05]
Speaker 1
 Not much. They're different enough that

[01:30:53:14 - 01:30:56:21]
Speaker 1
 because Raid was a little more gunplay than this one was.

[01:30:56:21 - 01:30:57:08]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:30:58:15 - 01:31:01:22]
Speaker 2
 I felt this was closer to The Night Comes for Us.

[01:31:01:22 - 01:31:02:19]
Speaker 4
 Oh, sure.

[01:31:04:09 - 01:31:14:06]
Speaker 2
 In that they would take hammers to hit each other with instead of guns and shit like that. In everything that was happening, I was like, "Ah, fuck. That is making my knee hurt."

[01:31:14:06 - 01:31:21:22]
Speaker 1
 The fight in the ring where he was fighting the guys and then brought the hammer out and went from, "Oh, rough fight. Oh my god."

[01:31:23:23 - 01:31:30:20]
Speaker 1
 It's definitely one of those movies where you go, "Yeah, all these people would be dead about five minutes into this 25-minute fight."

[01:31:31:23 - 01:31:44:07]
Speaker 2
 That opening sequence, so this is the story of a guy's daughter gets kidnapped and now he's going after the people who did it. That opening sequence where he is chasing them and he's running the bare feet over the

[01:31:45:21 - 01:31:55:10]
Speaker 2
 gravel and everything like that, I was just like, "Ugh." And then he's just all the fighting on the truck and various stuff like that. I was like, "Holy shit. This is exhausting."

[01:31:55:10 - 01:32:03:13]
Speaker 1
 It works so well because he ends up working with somebody else and they're both so good on screen.

[01:32:03:13 - 01:32:04:19]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, that was

[01:32:06:21 - 01:32:12:05]
Speaker 2
 a neat touch. I was not expecting. I was like, "Oh, this is almost a hard-boiled situation."

[01:32:12:05 - 01:32:16:21]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, except both of them are. Well, they're both really good gun guys in hard-boiled.

[01:32:16:21 - 01:32:17:15]
Speaker 4
 That's true.

[01:32:17:15 - 01:32:17:14]
Speaker 1
 Yeah,

[01:32:19:06 - 01:32:20:01]
Speaker 1
 Chao Yun-fat,

[01:32:21:12 - 01:32:34:15]
Speaker 1
 those two guys had that kind of quite his charismatic level, but in the realm, man, they were both really, really fun to watch. The guy with the bow and arrow is the one that's like, "Can we get rid of this? This is a weird

[01:32:36:03 - 01:32:36:11]
Speaker 1
 thing."

[01:32:36:11 - 01:32:42:12]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, but he was also eerie and I just liked how weird everybody was.

[01:32:42:12 - 01:32:51:07]
Speaker 1
 For somebody that thought the bow and arrow was weird, but I liked him. And when he was fighting without it, I thought, "Oh, this is... ow."

[01:32:51:07 - 01:33:01:00]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, that end fight with the three guys and everybody's fighting everybody. I was like, "Boy, I've not seen anything like this before." It was directed by a stuntman.

[01:33:02:00 - 01:33:28:18]
Speaker 1
 And there are scenes where you can just tell the stuntman got together and said, "Let's do this." It'll be ridiculous, but it's going to look so fucking cool on screen. The amount of times people are laying on each other or having people between each other, fighting, or... It's like, weird shit happens in the movie or the guy holding everybody out with the pallet in one stair thing for a while. It's

[01:33:29:19 - 01:33:36:04]
Speaker 1
 truly a lot of fun. If you like martial art movies at all, this is one of the best martial art movies I've seen in a long, long time.

[01:33:36:04 - 01:33:38:00]
Speaker 2
 Nice. It was really cool.

[01:33:39:01 - 01:33:40:14]
Speaker 2
 The Furious.

[01:33:42:01 - 01:33:44:10]
Speaker 3
 Is that streaming or is it pay for?

[01:33:44:10 - 01:33:58:06]
Speaker 1
 Probably going to be streaming soon because I saw it a couple weeks ago, I think, and it was down to one screening a day kind of stuff. Sure, okay. It may still be out. In Seattle area, there's always stuff that sticks around a long time.

[01:33:58:06 - 01:34:00:06]
Speaker 2
 Sometimes after it's gotten to streaming.

[01:34:00:06 - 01:34:02:17]
Speaker 1
 Yeah, but I'm sure it'll be streaming very soon.

[01:34:02:17 - 01:34:04:06]
Speaker 2
 Well, cool.

[01:34:05:07 - 01:34:12:01]
Speaker 2
 Why don't we take a little break and then we are continuing the Mad Maxathon with Eric's movie. No, with Vanessa's movie. Oh, no.

[01:34:12:01 - 01:34:12:14]
Speaker 1
 Oh, my God.

[01:34:14:22 - 01:34:15:20]
Speaker 2
 I hope you liked this.

[01:34:49:13 - 01:34:54:14]
Speaker 2
 And we are back. Good lord.

[01:34:55:15 - 01:34:57:05]
Speaker 2
 Clap with the Hulk sometimes.

[01:34:57:05 - 01:35:03:01]
Speaker 3
 He does. He claps so loud. Knocked my hair back. You have like an extra foot and a half away from it.

[01:35:05:07 - 01:35:07:05]
Speaker 2
 Eric uses his hand as a clapboard.

[01:35:07:05 - 01:35:07:23]
Speaker 4
 That's right.

[01:35:09:14 - 01:35:17:08]
Speaker 2
 We're in the middle of, literally in the middle of our Mad Maxathon. We are on the third movie and Vanessa, it is yours.

[01:35:17:08 - 01:35:22:05]
Speaker 3
 It sure is. Yes, Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

[01:35:24:17 - 01:35:37:03]
Speaker 25
 The world had been through a trial by fire and only the greatest warriors and their deadliest enemies emerged from the flames. Who are you? Nobody. Let me see. I can feel it. The dice are rolling.

[01:35:38:20 - 01:35:41:07]
Speaker 25
 He was the one they called Mad.

[01:35:41:07 - 01:35:42:16]
Speaker 26
 But he's just a raggedy man.

[01:35:42:16 - 01:35:55:16]
Speaker 25
 But to those whose lives hung in the balance. What's the warning once? Waiting for what? Waiting for you. He was the one they called Hero. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

[01:35:58:15 - 01:36:05:22]
Speaker 25
 Dying times are here. Now Mad Max is back in Beyond Thunderdome.

[01:36:31:19 - 01:36:31:20]
 (Music)

[01:36:32:23 - 01:36:33:14]
Speaker 25
 Mel Gibson.

[01:36:35:22 - 01:36:36:14]
Speaker 25
 Tina Turner.

[01:36:39:02 - 01:36:41:14]
Speaker 25
 Mad Max. Beyond Thunderdome.

[01:36:43:11 - 01:36:46:13]
Speaker 3
 I didn't write down the year for this. It's 1985, I think?

[01:36:46:13 - 01:36:47:16]
Speaker 2
 It is 1985, yeah.

[01:36:47:16 - 01:36:47:23]
Speaker 3
 Yeah.

[01:36:49:00 - 01:37:03:13]
Speaker 3
 So, yeah, let's get into it. Budget of 10 million, box office of 36. So it did do pretty good. Directed by George Miller, which we have been talking about this whole time. He's done just all these Mad Max movies, including an upcoming Mad Max.

[01:37:03:13 - 01:37:06:04]
Speaker 2
 Well, fingers crossed. Yeah, we'll see how it goes.

[01:37:06:04 - 01:37:20:23]
Speaker 3
 It's on his IMDb, so we shall see if it becomes a thing. And of course, we've talked about how he did "Babe, Pig in the City," "Happy Feet." 3,000 years belonging. He did, of course, also related to this a bunch of Tina Turner music videos.

[01:37:20:23 - 01:37:21:06]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:37:21:06 - 01:37:26:23]
Speaker 3
 And I didn't realize he did "Twilight Zone," the movie's nightmare at 20,000 feet. Yeah. I haven't known.

[01:37:26:23 - 01:37:35:07]
Speaker 1
 He probably doesn't talk about that one terribly often. Well, nothing happened on his side. His side knows the best segment. His segment was fine. This is the best segment.

[01:37:36:08 - 01:37:48:17]
Speaker 3
 Written by Terry Hayes, who we talked about in the last one, "15 Credits from Hell," "Road Warrior," "Payback Vertical Limit," and George Miller also wrote on this, and Brian Kennedy got a...he written the original story.

[01:37:50:21 - 01:37:58:23]
Speaker 3
 So, starring Mel Gibson, "Sewn in the Nine Credits," we have mentioned him before. We will not mention him again.

[01:37:58:23 - 01:37:59:16]
Speaker 4
 That's a saying, yeah, no.

[01:37:59:16 - 01:38:06:17]
Speaker 3
 This is the last of his engagements with the Mad Max series, unless he voiced it. I don't think he voiced anything in the video games, so...

[01:38:06:17 - 01:38:08:06]
Speaker 1
 But we won't be talking about those, so...

[01:38:08:06 - 01:38:09:19]
Speaker 3
 I'm just saying.

[01:38:09:19 - 01:38:12:11]
Speaker 2
 We should. There's an "X-A-Thon." There you go. That's right.

[01:38:14:01 - 01:38:16:22]
Speaker 3
 Maybe that's my next goal, like play the video game.

[01:38:18:00 - 01:38:28:10]
Speaker 3
 "Seveny Nine Credits," "Galipoli," "Lethal Weapon," "Braveheart," "Forever Young," "Maverick," "The Voice of Rocky," and "Chicken Run," and "John Smith," and "Pokehonest." I'd forgotten he was in "Pokehonest."

[01:38:28:10 - 01:38:29:08]
Speaker 4
 That's right, yeah.

[01:38:29:08 - 01:38:39:03]
Speaker 3
 Tina Turner has 64 credits, mostly music videos. What? Shocking. One episode of Ally McBeal, and she was the mayor and the last action hero.

[01:38:41:22 - 01:38:43:15]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I forgot about that.

[01:38:43:15 - 01:38:48:03]
Speaker 3
 It's like, I also, until I read that, I was like, "Eh, that's right."

[01:38:50:06 - 01:39:20:21]
Speaker 3
 Bruce Spence is in this. He has 137 credits, including "Dark City as Mr. Wall." He was "Road Warrior" as the gyro captain, which Eric was just talking about, and a lot of voice and smaller roles. He's got a pretty recognizable face. You'd know him if you saw him. Then Angelo Rosito plays master. 102 credits, including "Freaks," "Dracula vs. Frankenstein," "The Dark Spider Woman," "Wizard of Oz," and many token little people slash dwarf roles.

[01:39:21:21 - 01:39:24:18]
Speaker 3
 The story of this is

[01:39:25:20 - 01:39:53:03]
Speaker 3
 a man shrouded in robes. Who could he see? With a pack of camels and a cart with a monkey, and in all his belongings, walks through the desert, well, rides through the desert. The small airplane arrives along and knocks the guy off his camel, forces the camel to run, and basically the pilot is out in the Mad Max universe. He is stealing all of the mystery man's goods. The man is Max!

[01:39:54:18 - 01:40:20:14]
Speaker 3
 He finds the nearest town, Barter Town, and comes in with nothing to trade. Instead, he wants information, and he offers his services. But the ruler of Barter Town, Auntie, offers him a trade. Her power is often overruled by the master, who runs the pig farm under the city, which creates all the methane they use as fuel, which keeps everything running and going, and keeps sparring and bartering.

[01:40:21:20 - 01:40:26:19]
Speaker 3
 Whenever he doesn't get his way, he cuts off the power and supply. He rides Blaster,

[01:40:28:01 - 01:40:48:01]
Speaker 3
 which is a giant muscle man. If Max agrees to fight Blaster in the Thunderdome to the death, and of course survives, she will return all of his belongings, plus a shit ton of fuel. He agrees, but wishes to see them in practice before participating. So he is given the job of shoveling pig shit.

[01:40:49:17 - 01:40:52:04]
Speaker 3
 There he discovers that Master, seemingly,

[01:40:53:10 - 01:41:04:08]
Speaker 3
 only... Well, okay, it's a little weird. I want to say Master, who's apparently a genius guy, super smart, runs the underworld, doesn't speak in full sentences, which I found a little strange.

[01:41:04:08 - 01:41:06:06]
Speaker 1
 Yo, that was happening at that time.

[01:41:06:06 - 01:41:27:03]
Speaker 3
 I guess! I was very weird. I found it very strange. And then Blaster, he discovers, has a problem with loud noises. So he decides he's going to utilize this in the Thunderdome. He picks a fight with them, gets sentenced to Thunderdoming,

[01:41:28:20 - 01:41:29:00]
Speaker 3
 and...

[01:41:29:00 - 01:41:30:07]
Speaker 2
 Don't want to enter a one-man lead.

[01:41:30:07 - 01:41:32:21]
Speaker 3
 That's right. That's right. Those are the rules.

[01:41:33:23 - 01:41:46:07]
Speaker 3
 And Thunderdome is really cool looking, by the way. It's just kind of like a giant round cage, which all these people climb up to watch, and they're all holding various weapons that you can run and try and get and use.

[01:41:46:07 - 01:41:48:05]
Speaker 2
 And you're on big rubber bands.

[01:41:48:05 - 01:41:50:01]
Speaker 3
 You start off on big rubber bands, which is goofy.

[01:41:50:01 - 01:41:56:02]
Speaker 1
 I like the guy from Road Warrior, who went to mechanic, and went, "I like that a lot. Let's do that again." 100%.

[01:41:56:02 - 01:42:00:03]
Speaker 2
 It is kind of goofy, but it's also kind of cool. It was cool.

[01:42:00:03 - 01:42:01:07]
Speaker 4
 It was interesting.

[01:42:01:07 - 01:42:05:09]
Speaker 2
 I remember thinking, "I haven't seen anything like this before. This is pretty interesting."

[01:42:05:09 - 01:42:18:07]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, for sure. And I like the way that he utilizes that in the match, where at one point... So he brings with him into the match this whistle that he's going to use to distract

[01:42:19:13 - 01:42:38:19]
Speaker 3
 Blaster and basically allow him to win, but he drops it almost immediately. And so he keeps trying to spring back and forth to get this whistle. And then as a way in which he can survive Blaster, he cuts Blaster's spruings. And that allows him to continue to spring around while Blaster's running and hitting himself in the

[01:42:39:20 - 01:42:55:13]
Speaker 3
 sides. So that was used in a pretty neat way. He finally does get the whistle. He bashes Blaster's helmet off, revealing that the man underneath has Down Syndrome. And it's all just a big costume.

[01:42:55:13 - 01:42:58:21]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, basically a child in there.

[01:42:58:21 - 01:43:03:21]
Speaker 3
 And Master says, "Don't kill him. He's got the brain of a child."

[01:43:04:23 - 01:43:28:14]
Speaker 3
 So he won't kill him. And someone from the other side shoots Blaster and kills him anyway. And so Max is given a punishment because you're supposed to do two men enter one man's leave. And he did not participate in it appropriately. So he is forced to spin the wheel to decide his fate. He gets Gulag. I don't think they know what Gulag means. It's fine.

[01:43:28:14 - 01:43:29:20]
Speaker 1
 Good point.

[01:43:29:20 - 01:43:38:06]
Speaker 3
 They took a giant paper mache mascot head on him, tie him on a horse with the horse and send it off into the desert.

[01:43:38:06 - 01:43:40:02]
Speaker 1
 It's an interesting Gulag.

[01:43:40:02 - 01:43:44:08]
Speaker 3
 It's an interesting Gulag. I was like, "All right, sure."

[01:43:45:15 - 01:44:05:05]
Speaker 3
 Then the horse eventually basically dies. It's chasing a little pot of water. And that's what's allowing it to keep going and going and going. And he gets off the horse and he's out in the middle of nowhere. He's close to death and a young woman finds him and takes him to a mini desert oasis.

[01:44:05:05 - 01:44:06:17]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I love this.

[01:44:06:17 - 01:44:08:15]
Speaker 3
 This space is filled with...

[01:44:10:02 - 01:44:14:00]
Speaker 1
 I like that. I like this space. And I am alone in this, apparently.

[01:44:14:00 - 01:44:19:00]
Speaker 3
 This space is filled with children who call him Captain Walker and say he's the

[01:44:20:01 - 01:44:25:01]
Speaker 3
 one they were waiting for. They tell him a tale using those vis-a-vis, is that how you call them?

[01:44:25:01 - 01:44:27:23]
Speaker 1
 The View Masters? View Masters. Yeah, sort of thing.

[01:44:27:23 - 01:44:41:01]
Speaker 3
 And a giant square stick that they take and go along pictures on a cave wall, which is so neat because that's their version of cinema. It's so cool. It took me a while to pick up on that. I was like, "What is up with the square? It's really cool."

[01:44:42:12 - 01:44:55:12]
Speaker 3
 And through these little images, they've put together the idea of a mythical man who is going to come and fly them away to a big city somewhere.

[01:44:55:12 - 01:44:56:00]
Speaker 2
 Right.

[01:44:56:00 - 01:45:11:16]
Speaker 3
 And they even have a crashed 747 airliner out in the desert. And they bring him out there and they're like, "All right, we're ready to go. The wind's with us. Let's take off." And he has to tell them that he's not that guy.

[01:45:11:16 - 01:45:21:20]
Speaker 2
 The problem is that this prophecy that they've got basically as cave drawings, Captain Walker looks exactly like Max

[01:45:21:20 - 01:45:29:09]
Speaker 3
 when he's down to the White Street. And they're drawing on the picture they have on the actual viewfinder. It doesn't look anything like it.

[01:45:29:09 - 01:45:35:12]
Speaker 2
 I know. But what are they supposed to think when they see this guy? I know. I know. I know. The two.

[01:45:37:04 - 01:45:56:12]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. And it feels like all the stars are lining because he like throws a hat up and it flies up into the air and they're like, "Oh, flight. You have the power of flight." But he breaks it to him that this world doesn't exist anymore. But they really need to stay where they are because it is the best possible place they could be in this horrific hell world.

[01:45:56:12 - 01:46:04:03]
Speaker 1
 Well, one difference, you mentioned, they're now in a desert world for some reason. Mad Max has gone to Dune.

[01:46:04:03 - 01:46:08:16]
Speaker 2
 Right. He sure has. Yeah, it's no longer the wasteland. It is just sand.

[01:46:08:16 - 01:46:10:03]
Speaker 3
 Just sand everywhere.

[01:46:10:03 - 01:46:11:11]
Speaker 2
 But this beautiful oasis.

[01:46:11:11 - 01:46:20:07]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, this nice with like, you know, water and swings. And they seem to be able to feed themselves. Yeah. I don't know where the adults are. It's only children.

[01:46:20:07 - 01:46:22:07]
Speaker 2
 That's how they feed themselves.

[01:46:23:17 - 01:46:25:05]
Speaker 3
 It's all adding up now. They eat the adults.

[01:46:25:05 - 01:46:27:18]
Speaker 2
 When you get old enough, you become food.

[01:46:27:18 - 01:46:31:13]
Speaker 3
 So similar to that comic that I was reading before.

[01:46:32:14 - 01:46:39:03]
Speaker 3
 All right. So, of course, he tells them that really this is where they ought to be. And

[01:46:40:11 - 01:47:15:09]
Speaker 3
 the woman who saved him, Savannah, doesn't believe him and leaves with a group of the kind of older kids to go out and find this paradise that they want to discover. Not paradise, but the city where, like, everything's supposed to be normal and they're going to escape to knowing that the nearest place is Barter Town and they will kill them or worse. He goes after them to save them when he arrives at Barter Town. He now frees the currently enslaved master who's down in the pigsty. He takes down the pig factory, releases all the pigs, and they steal a disused train

[01:47:16:14 - 01:47:41:00]
Speaker 3
 to escape with another prisoner that he had met earlier in the movie. Then we get a classic chase scene with auntie in full metal chain mail suit going after them. We get all the jumping and the fighting and the usual Mad Max stuff. They manage to lose them and run into the airplane man with, again, who they actually get all the children onto the plane.

[01:47:41:00 - 01:47:42:16]
Speaker 1
 They seem to recognize each other,

[01:47:43:20 - 01:47:44:07]
Speaker 1
 Max

[01:47:44:07 - 01:48:09:05]
Speaker 3
 and the pilot. So that is an interesting piece of trivia because at the end of the previous movie, same actor, same...he's also got a plane. It's like, is this the same guy? Because in that one, he went off and had a very different life. Why would he be out in this place? Different character. It's not even remotely the same character.

[01:48:09:05 - 01:48:09:22]
Speaker 2
 Very confusing.

[01:48:09:22 - 01:48:20:01]
Speaker 3
 Very confusing. I was very, very angry about it because it's the first character you run into in the movie. And I was like, I... And he's flying. He's flying. He's got a flying machine.

[01:48:20:01 - 01:48:21:07]
Speaker 1
 He's got a little kid with him.

[01:48:21:07 - 01:48:28:00]
Speaker 3
 He's got a couple years older. Exactly. You're like, wait a minute. And there is a piece of trivia in here, which I'll get to, which will explain that.

[01:48:29:00 - 01:48:57:00]
Speaker 3
 They managed to lose the people who were chasing them by throwing all the kids onto the airplane, but they need the runway. So Max offers to clear the path for them, which means they are able to escape. But he is left alone with an angry horde from Bartertown and Auntie, who basically laughs at him and says, "Ha! That was fun and leaves." You know, nice throw. Good times. Good times. We had a... It wasn't just fun.

[01:48:57:00 - 01:49:01:19]
Speaker 2
 Right off the bat, you're in for something different. The film is PG-13. Yeah.

[01:49:01:19 - 01:49:02:09]
Speaker 3
 It's so different.

[01:49:02:09 - 01:49:05:07]
Speaker 2
 And you're like, okay. And then it opens with a Tina Turner song.

[01:49:05:07 - 01:49:07:10]
Speaker 1
 Yes, very 80s. And it's a fast-forward.

[01:49:07:10 - 01:49:20:17]
Speaker 2
 Yeah. So you're... Like right off the bat, you're like, this does not feel quite right. And I will say that I did not like this movie when I first saw it. On this viewing, I loved this movie. Really? Yes.

[01:49:20:17 - 01:49:28:17]
Speaker 3
 I did not like this movie at all, because it's fun up until they... I didn't even remember the kids being in this.

[01:49:28:17 - 01:49:28:23]
Speaker 4
 Oh.

[01:49:28:23 - 01:49:33:13]
Speaker 3
 So as soon as we get to the Lord of the Flies, like Never Never Land thing, I was like...

[01:49:33:13 - 01:49:34:12]
Speaker 1
 What the hell?

[01:49:34:12 - 01:49:37:19]
Speaker 3
 Oh my God. Now we're stuck with these children.

[01:49:39:00 - 01:49:44:16]
Speaker 3
 I usually virus-bidded. Right? I was like, Kelly's going to eat this movie.

[01:49:44:16 - 01:49:56:03]
Speaker 1
 I did a similar but different path. And the first time I watched it, you know, theater and everything is like, what the fuck is this? Second time, I was like, oh, this is not so bad. This time, I'm like... Oh, this is not so good.

[01:49:56:03 - 01:50:23:04]
Speaker 2
 Oh, see? I loved Barter Town. I loved the shot of him with the camels and everything. I was like, how come we didn't get spin-off books and comic books? I want to know what happened between the end of The Road Warrior and this. And I love him going into Barter Town, the guy trying to sell him water, and he's got a rad counter there. And I'm like, where did he get that? Yeah. So you've got to go someplace specialized to get a radiation counter.

[01:50:23:04 - 01:50:23:14]
Speaker 4
 You think?

[01:50:23:14 - 01:50:26:12]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. The world is a wolf. The budget has a wolf.

[01:50:26:12 - 01:50:37:06]
Speaker 2
 Also, so this was shot in Australia, so it does have deserts in South Australia. Did you know that Australia has a massive population of wild camels? No.

[01:50:38:14 - 01:50:44:18]
Speaker 2
 He's got camels pulling him along and everything. I was like, I'm really digging this. All

[01:50:45:22 - 01:50:48:18]
Speaker 2
 I wanted was more car stuff. Yeah.

[01:50:48:18 - 01:51:00:10]
Speaker 3
 The car stuff felt a little bit thin. Honestly, a big part of the problem I had was the music throughout, because it starts with a Tina Turner song, and it's so not fitting as a Mad Max humor.

[01:51:00:10 - 01:51:03:15]
Speaker 2
 It's also not a great song in general. It's not one of those. It's super boring.

[01:51:03:15 - 01:51:20:06]
Speaker 3
 It's super lame. All of a sudden, you get to this adventure music, and they use it again and again and again. And I was like, I cannot stand this children's adventure track one more time. You can't throw in one new instrument, and suddenly I like it. It's so irritating.

[01:51:20:06 - 01:51:28:10]
Speaker 1
 I think for me, it's a lot of stuff you mentioned I like. There's a lot of little things I really liked. Yeah. Cutting his hair, I liked, because, wow, that was bad extension. Yeah.

[01:51:28:10 - 01:51:30:06]
Speaker 3
 Really rough extension.

[01:51:30:06 - 01:51:30:23]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[01:51:30:23 - 01:51:33:12]
Speaker 3
 Nice to have him with the light and hands again. It was definitely meant to be. Yeah.

[01:51:33:12 - 01:51:42:13]
Speaker 1
 It was just the home change and the differences. It is just bizarre.

[01:51:42:13 - 01:51:45:09]
Speaker 3
 It is. It's not like the theme park version of Mad Max.

[01:51:45:09 - 01:51:46:18]
Speaker 2
 The Oasis then,

[01:51:48:03 - 01:51:57:23]
Speaker 2
 I'm like, this could have been the Oasis that Charlize Theron's family came from. It very well could be. I was like, I don't know. I was feeling it this time. That's very cool.

[01:51:57:23 - 01:52:10:17]
Speaker 3
 I mean, there's definitely like, you can see more of that sprinkling of universe kind of happening. And then in the end, the kids fly off of the plane and they end up going into Sydney, this city that they've been looking for.

[01:52:10:17 - 01:52:12:20]
Speaker 2
 It's destroyed.

[01:52:12:20 - 01:52:31:23]
Speaker 3
 Whoops. And then we get the continuation of the verbal treatment where we're talking about the story of Mad Max, how Mad Max like, you know, met with the children, this wander, blah, blah, blah. And they now have set up a separate civilization in the city and they're welcoming those who find their way there.

[01:52:31:23 - 01:52:32:06]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:52:32:06 - 01:52:35:18]
Speaker 3
 So it's like continuing that whole verbal

[01:52:35:18 - 01:52:44:20]
Speaker 1
 and they did have the guy getting hit by an oncoming train, I guess, in this case. But he did not smash from watermelon. He was fine.

[01:52:44:20 - 01:52:48:02]
Speaker 3
 He survived. He was just like roadrunner onto it.

[01:52:48:02 - 01:52:49:14]
Speaker 1
 Like I said, PG-13.

[01:52:49:14 - 01:52:57:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Yeah. This definitely was the lightest version of the Mad Max universe. I do have a little bit of trivia. Well, I have a lot of trivia.

[01:52:58:23 - 01:53:02:06]
Speaker 3
 So tagline Max is back and Tina's got him.

[01:53:03:15 - 01:53:05:14]
Speaker 4
 Oh, man.

[01:53:05:14 - 01:53:33:02]
Speaker 3
 Beyond Thunderdome was the first Mad Max film made without producer Byron Kennedy, who had been killed in a helicopter crash in 1983. Director George Miller was hesitant to continue without his producing partner saying I was reluctant to go ahead. And then there was a sort of need to let's do something and just get it over the shock and grief of all that. And then there's a title card at the end of the film before the credits roll that say for Byron.

[01:53:33:02 - 01:53:33:11]
Speaker 4
 Yeah.

[01:53:33:11 - 01:54:15:01]
Speaker 3
 The film was originally not Mad Max film, but as Eric mentioned last time, a post-apocalyptic Lord of the Flies film about a tribe of children who were found by an adult. It became the third Mad Max film when George Miller was suggested to that Max could be the man who finds the children. Miller co-directed the film with George Oglivier, with whom he had worked in on the 1983 television miniseries The Dismissal. About the decision, he said, I had a lot on my plate. I asked my friend George, who was working on the miniseries, could you come help me? But I don't remember the experience because I was just doing, you know, I was grieving.

[01:54:15:01 - 01:54:15:23]
Speaker 4
 Yes.

[01:54:15:23 - 01:54:44:23]
Speaker 3
 So for the film, Miller and this other guy employed a group workshopping rehearsal technique that they had developed together. Tina Turner. Here's some fun Tina Turner facts. She had to shave her head for the wig to fit properly. She reportedly had no problem with that. The script called for Auntie Entity, which, by the way, she's only called in the credits. She's never called Aunt Entity throughout the entire movie. She's just called Aunt or Auntie. To

[01:54:46:01 - 01:55:00:02]
Speaker 3
 drive a vehicle. All the vehicles were built using manual transmissions, which Tina Turner couldn't drive. So car equipped with the automatic transmission had to be constructed. Her steel male dress weighed more than one hundred and twenty one pounds.

[01:55:02:11 - 01:55:04:08]
Speaker 2
 The cost to be about what she weigh.

[01:55:04:08 - 01:55:09:04]
Speaker 3
 Right. I was thinking that, too. She's very she's in great shape for this movie. So

[01:55:10:09 - 01:55:10:13]
Speaker 3
 she

[01:55:10:13 - 01:55:14:19]
Speaker 2
 was kind of she was. Yeah. But she's not not a big woman.

[01:55:14:19 - 01:55:50:22]
Speaker 3
 Great size, though. I can see where she was able to build it all up. Norma McCorris costume for included soldered together coat hangers, dog muzzles and metal butchers, aprons and chicken wire. The chair that aunt's entity rides down in the thunder into the thunderdome was kept by Turner after filming and it can be seen displayed in her living area during her 60 minutes interview in 2003. That's cool. There were six hundred pigs in the underworld buying that many could have hurt the pork market. So they rented them from a pig farmer. Wow.

[01:55:52:04 - 01:56:09:10]
Speaker 3
 The kids spent two months in workshops learning to hunt, climb and use primitive weapons. The sandstorm at the end of the film was real and a camera plane flew into it for some of the shots. The storm in its entirety hit the crew in the desert, forcing them to ride it out in their cars and wherever they could find cover.

[01:56:10:18 - 01:56:38:11]
Speaker 3
 Two scenes were cut from the film during to keep down the running time. The first Max dreams about his murdered wife and son wakes up and cries. He realizes he's become just as bad as the animals he used to hunt down as a cop. The other Max takes a dying gecko to the top of a sand dune at night, sees the lights of Barter Town and tells him that they've reached Tomorrow, Morrow land. A few seconds of this scene are included in the music video for Tina Turner's We Don't Need Another Hero.

[01:56:39:13 - 01:56:43:02]
Speaker 2
 Interesting. I like that dream scene. I would like to have seen that.

[01:56:43:02 - 01:57:26:22]
Speaker 3
 I felt that. I was like, man, the gecko thing sounds wildly strange. Yeah, the pilot who appears at the end, who we're just talking about, was played by the same actor from the gyrocopter from the previous Max movie is not the same character as he replaced the actor who was originally cast as the pilot late into production. Though the fans, he felt like the fans could feel the fact that it could have been him surviving in the community and with the woman taking a liking to him and then having this child, blah, blah, blah. But it was basically like they just needed somebody. I don't know if this actor could fly a plane and they were like, all right, you're here. You can fly a plane and this will work.

[01:57:26:22 - 01:57:29:15]
Speaker 1
 I like this guy. I know how it works. Just go grab him.

[01:57:29:15 - 01:57:47:05]
Speaker 3
 Yeah, apparently it was just kind of a quick fix. It was the most expensive Australian film at the time. And although the film's budget was larger than its predecessors, its box office yield was only moderate in comparison in Australia. It grossed 4 million, 4.2 million

[01:57:48:12 - 01:58:08:03]
Speaker 3
 less than what Mad Max made and less than half of what Mad Max 2 had made. But in the US, Canada, in Canada, the film grossed 36 million generating theatrical rentals of 18 million and outside of the US. And it ended up earning that's 36 million. This is also the film that popularized the term Thunderdome.

[01:58:09:03 - 01:58:09:04]
Speaker 2
 You

[01:58:10:06 - 01:58:33:04]
Speaker 2
 know, I think Tina Turner is really good in this and horribly miscast. She's especially if you remember, she's having her huge comeback. She's got videos all over MTV. She's so recognizable. And it completely takes you out of the idea that this is a wasteland, you know, especially with her music being involved, too.

[01:58:33:04 - 01:58:50:19]
Speaker 3
 Right from the start. They said a lot of the budget came from the US and that's part of why they probably had her cast because they wanted that US audience. But that also is probably why no one in Australia really wanted to see this movie. They were probably like, this is not the same universe. This is not, you know.

[01:58:50:19 - 01:58:58:13]
Speaker 2
 I had thought that I remember thinking at the time, wow, cool, a new Mad Max movie, but

[01:59:01:16 - 01:59:22:04]
Speaker 2
 that, you know, it's a big deal that Mel Gibson is coming back for this kind of movie. But then when I looked at his IMDB, he doesn't get big until a couple of years later with Lethal Weather. The other movies, I think he might have been in like The Mutiny or something like that. That was the one where people were starting to say this guy's going to be a star or something. But

[01:59:23:23 - 01:59:30:14]
Speaker 2
 yeah, I mean, I get why people don't like this movie. I'm just telling you that this time I had a really good time.

[01:59:30:14 - 01:59:33:12]
Speaker 3
 I'm so glad. I was like, I got the short straw

[01:59:34:23 - 01:59:43:20]
Speaker 3
 and you guys are pulling one over on me with this movie. Wow. But I'm really glad to hear that you enjoyed it. That's that makes me feel better about it.

[01:59:43:20 - 01:59:49:17]
Speaker 2
 It was the first time because this this I mean, OK, let's let's rate the three movies we say.

[01:59:52:11 - 01:59:55:03]
Speaker 3
 I'm going to go to one three.

[01:59:55:03 - 01:59:58:04]
Speaker 2
 Yeah, I would have to agree with that. Definitely

[01:59:59:11 - 02:00:12:03]
Speaker 2
 nailed it. We're going to get into a couple of movies, though, that I'm like, OK, does this change? Yeah. Our number ones and twos. Yeah, I have a feeling that this ends up on the bottom of the pile that. Oh, yeah, there's this one of the five.

[02:00:12:03 - 02:00:14:07]
Speaker 3
 I already know for me, it's going to.

[02:00:14:07 - 02:00:14:16]
Speaker 2
 Yeah.

[02:00:14:16 - 02:00:23:21]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. But that being said, I mean, out of a series, this being the potentially worst, it's not as bad as so many.

[02:00:23:21 - 02:00:35:21]
Speaker 1
 Oh, it's so many. You compare like Jaws three or some of the other threes out there. It's it's at least it's not terrible. It's just such a right turn away from the original.

[02:00:35:21 - 02:00:40:22]
Speaker 3
 I think part of the thing that threw me was just the big shift mid movie. Yeah. I think that's what got

[02:00:40:22 - 02:00:44:22]
Speaker 1
 from this to the ripped off this movie before Senator's got all the room.

[02:00:44:22 - 02:00:45:08]
Speaker 2
 But

[02:00:46:09 - 02:00:50:06]
Speaker 2
 so, you know what, I think could have saved this movie.

[02:00:51:15 - 02:01:11:08]
Speaker 2
 We could have got rid of the kids story, except that was clearly what was the impetus of the whole movie. So we weren't going to get away from that. But this had gone from Barter Town to the train and the cars. And just we got a nice long car battle scene. I think because I thought Barter Town worked great.

[02:01:11:08 - 02:01:30:11]
Speaker 3
 Yeah. Oh, it works great. Yeah. It's it's it's interesting because you still see like George Miller's like hand and creating all these really interesting characters and stuff. But you also are like, man, that's a big budget. They built a lot more than they normally would. Everything feels like

[02:01:30:11 - 02:01:40:01]
Speaker 1
 there are moments that feel like this seems like this was one of the points where Miller was pulled only back a little bit. The other guy might have been directing. Right.

[02:01:40:01 - 02:01:47:00]
Speaker 2
 Or maybe even the studio was like, this has to be a little more of a blockbuster if we're going to give you a 10 million bucks.

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Speaker 3
 Actually, this is a great trivia that I wasn't sure I was going to mention. But so there is a common misconception that Miller later agreed to direct the action sequences while George

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Speaker 3
 directed the rest of the film.

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Speaker 3
 This was. This is a

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Speaker 3
 good little V.

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Speaker 2
 Ogilvy, I'm guessing.

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Speaker 3
 Ogilvy. Directing the rest of the film. This was debunked by Miller himself claiming that because the assumption was made because of an ambiguous press release that came out. In fact, the only time that both George's split up was when

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Speaker 3
 a guilty was filming the camel sequences. Otherwise, they spent most of their time on set together. So

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Speaker 1
 yeah, I I could see that. I can also see where

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Speaker 1
 even if he was there. Yeah, he might have had moments where he's

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Speaker 3
 like, it definitely sounds like he was like.

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Speaker 1
 Right. You got this.

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Speaker 3
 Exactly. I think he really was like really going through something from all the other quotes.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. They talk about how heartbroken he was. This guy was killed. And I guess he was killed doing location scouting for those. Oh, so

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Speaker 3
 awful.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. That's you know, yeah. That's pretty tough to get there. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
 On that really fun note.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. Well, listen,

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Speaker 2
 that Max is on continues. Yes, that's right.

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Speaker 3
 Yes. So next week.

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Speaker 1
 So yeah, you're you're you're up next.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. Yeah. Here you go. And I'm excited because I like very real.

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Speaker 3
 Yes. I think I've seen it since theaters. I'm pretty stoked.

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Speaker 2
 Yeah. Ted Dastak, who is a listener and a wonderful person,

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Speaker 2
 except for the fact that he is clearly just trying to infuriate me with the shitty posts on our page about how, you know, he loved Road Warrior. And then he loved Mad Max even more. And then he saw Fury Road and he hated it. What is happening with you, Ted? You are.

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Speaker 3
 There's always got to be one.

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Speaker 2
 I like this. This guy is just doing this to piss me off.

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Speaker 3
 He's like, you know, that Kelly guy, I bet this would make him real mad. I'm like a real fire under his tushy.

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Speaker 2
 Well, don't watch it. And we're going to talk about it in a couple of weeks. Excellent. Right now, we're going to say thanks to everybody who's out there, who's liking and sharing posts, who's commenting on the YouTube videos or interacting with us. Or everybody else on the Strange Jans Radio Talk page.

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Speaker 2
 And especially if you're out there throwing a couple of bucks our way. We really appreciate that. It's called Value for Value. If you got some value out of this, I assume if you're watching this after 350 some episodes, you're getting some value out of

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Speaker 2
 it.

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Speaker 2
 Vanessa, where else can they go?

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Speaker 3
 You can also get a hold of us on the Strange Jans Radio Hotline. That phone number is 253-237-4266. You can call and leave a voicemail. You can text. There is no real human there waiting for your call, but Eric is going to stand by to listen to and read whatever you send our way. So please get in touch. Let us know any thoughts you have on Mad Max. Is there a favorite that you have? Do you feel like our order is completely whack? Are there comics or games or something out there that we should be looking at and investigating? We want to hear from you. So get in touch.

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Speaker 2
 I'm so bummed that we didn't get a Marvel continuing series after this and a series of fucking action figures with the car and all of that stuff. I mean, I've got the car. It's been sporadic stuff, but nothing. And it was super expensive because it was, you know, a limited collectible.

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Speaker 3
 That's why I didn't like this movie. The car is not in it.

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Speaker 2
 The car is not in it. And that's a bummer.

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Speaker 1
 Well, you know, it's kind of taken out in Road Warrior. I know, but you still... It's parlor. You could have gone back and get that green one from the first man.

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Speaker 2
 Well, the thing is, if it's a legend, you

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Speaker 3
 know, he could have just had it again.

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Speaker 1
 Yeah.

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Speaker 3
 It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1
 He rebuilt it himself.

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Speaker 2
 It does kind of feel like this movie acts as a trilogy. And then the next two movies are just a reboot of the whole thing.

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Speaker 3
 It does. It really does.

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Speaker 2
 Anyway. All right. That's it. We'll be back in two short weeks. And we are talking about Fury Road. See you next time. Transportation and other considerations for Strange Eons Radio produced by Pan Am Airlines. When you think of traveling, think of Pan Am. You can't beat the experience. Yes, the Strange Eons Radio stay at Econolodge, Everett. It's an easy stop on the road. You know what I mean? Strange Eons Radio is recorded live in front of a studio audience. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider leaving us a positive review on your favorite podcast app. Sit, Ubu. Sit.

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Speaker 3
 I was having a real struggle. I was having a real struggle, like staying conscious.